Mazda MX5 VS Honda S2000
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2013
- Marty and Moog hit the drag strip to see which of these Japanese roadsters will reign supreme on the quarter mile...
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Remember if you can not to post spoilers because some people read the comments first!
Spoiler alert: Marty and Moog have a race
LMFAO.....Got snapped reading the comments first....
thank you for posting that i was about to scroll down!
you guys should turn off comments for a bit on these suspenseful videos and then turn it back on later.
I instinctively scrolled down to read the comments and you saved me from spoiling it with this comment! Thanks :)
"I'd rather lose by a mile, because I built my own car, than win by an inch, because someone else built it for me. Your car is your story, so don't let someone esle write the book."
- Moog (Budget Street Cred (Season Finale))
exactly
But he was saying how his mazda is faster, so that quote doesn't apply...
***** Thank you for speaking for every person around the world.
You managed 2/3 sentences in 1. You're the best.
Awesome sentiment, but love how he was so taken with VTEC that the rivalry between that and the Miata was all that mattered. (Sorry, came into this 4 years after the fact, but it was new to me and I liked it, so don't given me any crap!)
I think its amazing that Moog took the time to hype up vtec and Honda... I drive a suzuki so don't really care but its awesome that Moog takes the time to take down stupid barriers with cars. Marty is the purist but Moog is the every man
one recommendation i have for you guys... quit looking towards your opponent during a race. you get distracted and you get the issues you experienced. not gonna spoil, so ya. focus on your time, nothing else ^_^
Murray Kitson Marty is REALLY bad about that. And then he wonders why he's missing his shifts...
+jench78 It was the clutch.
I'm so happy moog is one of us now, one of us, one of us! haha Vtec Face is epic!
Never has 22 minutes passed so quickly. Another excellent episode. Guys, I feel like I know you both like friends at this stage. Be proud of what you're both doing. This is car culture gold.
This is how I feel! Thanks guys for the great episodes and for being such cool car guys...MCM east coast US meet should be arranged...
Jesus had a Honda.
John 12:49: For I did not speak of my own accord.
Jesus had a christler
Jesus built my hot rod.
Is the mazdaspeed miata better contender to the s2000?
@@Thesaviorsway if stock......
GOD YES
Look at all those RX-3's
LOOK AT THEM
xD i did
This has to be one of the better episodes. Really enjoyed it and love the new rivalry guys! Keep it up!
hks released the supercharger kit that can instantly bring your s2000 to 400hp maybe you can install that in the next video clip
I would like to see what S2000 could be like after doing some proper modding. Stock is pretty much equal to turbo mx5.
a big turbo and youll be around 500whp on stock internals.
So, you take two of the best handling, two seater roadsters in history and the best challenge that you can think of, is to drag race them in a dead straight line? Someone lacks imagination.
Same thought here...
The worst part is that these cars weren't really built for drag racing. More so for road racing.
Drag strips are cheaper than track days
granny shifting not double clutching like you should
Johny40Se7en Doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is wining
DANGER TO THE MANIFOLD
You had me? You never had me. You never had your car Marty.
ZuulTheDestroyer SHUT UP!
Too soon junior
I used to have an S2000 and it's still the best car I have ever owned actually. Some cars have powerful engines, some have good handling, but the S2000 is the complete package. It has terrific handling, brakes, engine, gearbox. Everything is quality.
you keep missing gears because you keep looking over,LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD and you wont miss gears!!
that was a great season. well written guys. thank you for the awesome content. love the show
This is a fun video. I had some fun races with my S back when they just came out and no one knew what they could do.
While marty was getting "advice" there was a nice looking red S2000 infront of the MX-5
I loved the s2k pull on the last race when he hit third. I like both cars
it wasn't a pull Marty's clutch slipped.
Yea know I don't think it came across right I just meant it looked like he pulled hard
Even when ur pissed nothing like Marty and Moog to cheer u up keep up the great vids I love this show
That was an great episode! I'm not even a car guy, but your entire show is great to watch
Now go race each other around a track, where these cars were meant to be raced.
Having watched a few of your races, I've got a simple tip for you, Marty. Stop looking at your opponent and concentrate on driving, that's why you keep missing gears!
Old MCM slaps just as hard as the new stuff, thanks for all the years of awesome videos boys 🔥
great race! awesome episode. new to the honda scene myself got a 94 integra rs thing is so fun to drive couldnt be more happier.
One reason Honda owners get bullied is because a lot of them are idiots. And I'm saying that as a guy with an Integra.
jench78 Agreed, I've had a GS, GSR and an RSX, great cars(especially that GSR engine), but soooo many irritating fanbois in the community.
oh wow...any thoughts on gsr versus rsx?
jench78 Yes, sure, ummm, they are different cars in their approach and character.
The star of the GSR was the engine, it had high RPM and high compression, and with a few minor engine mods was very very exciting to drive. The transmission also was much better, it would shift beautifully(mechanical linkage opposed to RSX's cable) and super quick at full RPM while RSX's struggles more like an average car gearbox. The RSX is as fast, both 0-100km in 7s, but the delivery is 'softer' and didn't really continue the acceleration past ~125km/h unlike the GSR which really wakes up at 2nd gear/ 70km/h. The RSX however, is a much nicer, prettier and more liveable(2 bikes in the back, no sweat) vehicle, however, what you gain in liveability you loose in driving excitement and pleasure. Also the RSX's VTEC is not the same, but the one in the GSR was something special, it's roared and kicked you in the butt and rewarded you substantially more the harder you drove it.
You could sum it up this way, The RSX you love it everyday and it loves you back. The GSR, with that engine, chassis and some mild mods, you lust after and can't wait to hit a country road or track.
nice, man. thanks. I was shopping around for either, though I didn't really think I could afford the RSX. cards always tend to get bigger, heavier, and nicer, and that's what I thought about those two. I know the K20 has a lot of potential, but so does my b18c1. thanks again!
jench78 Oh, you got the B18C1! That is a sweet little engine, it's more exciting for sure than the K20A3. Not sure about the K20A2 or K20Z1.
They really are different cars though, the RSX has been my favourite by a good margin, but it never gave me the same thrill as that B18C1 at full RPM, maybe like 70% the thrill. Also the RSX does not burble on gas liftoff as much as the GSR with as decent exhaust, but that can be fixed with Hondata.
I would say stick with it for now till you can get a RSX and cash for tuning, I'm sure you can get it to a similar approximation in terms of thrill factor.
Oh and a technical note, the K20A3 is not a true VTEC, if you note the cam lobes you will see that it is in detuned/efficient mode when off and regular engine power in VTEC. And it does not have differing lobes on the exhaust. Keep this in mind! The B18C1, K20A2 and K20Z1, however, are dual lobe style, regular and aggressive, intake and exhaust.
Having a good Honda doesn't include an old banged up Civic with a big stupid fart cannon on it, cut springs, and grey primer for a paint job. Just sayin'
Why does every MCM video start off funny and goofy and than lead to something super deep
Hello MCM, I'm from Brazil and I follow your show for a long time. I would like to leave here my congratulations, because your work is very well done. Greetings from the other side of the world!
You guys never made the video for the cluth on a mx5
14:27 I must say, well said, man. Very well said.
It was some inspirational shit. Civic si '13 owner here.
man you guys make me feel much better, kind of heartbroken right now.. gonna go to garage to work on my fc and when i come back i watch the next episode :)
+buubised Cheer up, mate. Having a cool car such as your FC and having a cool hobby is all the more reason to smile.
waited eagerly all week for this episode!
I'm sure you guys are all over this. But having just done a clutch replacement on my '90 NA I wanted to share a couple things which made a world of difference.
Replacing the flywheel bearing is probably a good idea, since it's a pain to get to and replace after putting it back together. Also, resurfacing and re-balancing the flywheel while you have it out is generally a good idea.
My biggest recommendation is Motorcraft Full Synthetic Manual Transmission Fluid.
Part # XT-M5-QS I think.
It's night and day in that transmission. So much quieter, smoother, everything. It's a bit expensive, but it's proper full synthetic stuff which will stand up to the beating of track days.
Love the show, hope I've contributed something new and useful to your huge bank of knowledge! Keep it mad.
um mister can u work on my miata?
^-^
Haha, wrenching on your own makes it yours.
That R35 was so nice, sounded incredible! Hope you guys got some footage of it :D Sad to see Marty lose, I wanted that little MX5 to win :( VTEC does sound pretty badass when it kicks in though.
This is like watching a video of my past. My bro had a S2000 and I own a turbo Miata with almost the exact same mods.
I'm running a 14.1 @ 100mph with:
T25 turbo @12psi from an sr20
460cc injectors
Megasquirt2
FM exhaust
Act clutch
LSD
*That was on crappy street tires and a rough tune.
It was still enough to blow the doors off a few S2000s.
Once Marty gets the clutch its game over.
That said I love both cars and they are amazing starting points for modding.
Keep up the awesome vids!
cant wait for next video always wanted to watch one of those but i wanted it to be from you guys
VL GOD blew up ages ago, so my guess is MCM has already made the clutch video.
01:42 That Sierra is awesome.
That was a really awesome episode!!!
Can't wait for more!!
This is so good!!
Basically, this what I dream of doing with my cars, together with my mates.
Too bad there are no place to legaly drag race here, except maybe a couple of times, a couple of hours drive away, during our short summer (Norway). While the Audi A4 quattro is holding up fairly well, my 3-litre converted 190E Benz is rusting away as it is sitting...
must resist to look at comments
Next time on Mighty Honda Mods: We show you how to install a clutch!
Best excuse ever.. lol
really now....
strykrchaz
Give him a bloody auto to shut him up :P
I really get a laugh out of this MX-5 v Honda rivalry, GREAT episode.
great video - highly entertaining as always. I felt the tension.
Marty, do a 2jz swap in the mx5!!!
now thats gonna be nuts
stiffer engine and transmission mounts will help out alot with the miss shifts, I use to miss 3rd when the engine and transmission got moving around, put in solid engine and trans mounts now i never miss a shift hahahaha. even a set of poly mounts would do wonders
Missing shifts is also a sign of bad synchros.
DatLeet Bad driver mod also.
Haha what are you talking about.... learn to shift gears no matter what mods you make
I love both of these cars. Used to have a MK1 MX-5 and currently own an AP2 S2000. They both have their perks, but the S2000 is certainly the better car. And this video is a great example of why getting a car that's fast in stock trim is a better idea than getting a not so fast one and trying to tune it. Enjoyable video.
You're not lying. I remember I had a pt cruiser gt and I thought I'd never own it nor did I really think I would enjoy it. By far though one of if not my favorite car amazing and fun. Plenty of other cars I can't wait to go for and yeah
15:00 when the feel-tec kicks in
I couldn't find the hair cuts on your website, am I looking in the wrong place?
great great great vidoe!! wish you can do STI VS EVO like this mates.. love it
Great video guys, keep up the good work and the antics. Really got a soft spot! For both cars, but hope to buy the winner soon :-)
Still impressive that a miata with just a couple grand in it keeps up with an s2k 20 thousand dollar car. Miatas are pretty impressive.
Why do i keep missing gears? Lmao look ahead and focus on actually shifting clean.
well i have a ford puma 1.7 natural aspiration, and i too have to change clutch, so it will be learning video for me(as always), looking forward to next video, hope its soon :P
The excitement levels in this video are just out of control
Maybe if you stop fucking looking over your shoulder you'll stop missing gears!
Marty bro... you gotta learn to shift better haha much love for both the cars tho guys!!
"I rather loose by a mile because I built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me, your car is your story, so don't let anyone else write the book" .-MCM
I'm still up for the Mazda
The friendly rivarly is great and I don't think there is an episode of MCM that doesn't leave me with a smile.
this made me proud (er) to own a Honda!
Wait until VTEC kicks in yo!
My 2 year old just said chopped after round 1. I was watching with my headset so he can't have even heard it! lol My 3 year old then chimed saying chopped as well! lol
*****
I had totally forgotten this! Thanks for bringing the memory back! :) :) :)
DE Nichols reminder of your awesome kids
Marty with the light-colored helmet and shirt, and Moog with the dark helmet and t shirt - genius.
Marty you have to upgrade your car and clutch so we fans could see u go again in the track against your buddy. It was fun watching both u guys race should do it again after mods.
marty and his excuses LOL!
Like if you agree that this is the best channel on UA-cam FULL STOP.
I beat a few Vtecs in my manual Commodore but love when the Vtec kicks in, sounds nice.
Serious question, would be appreciated to have helpful advise not abuse but looking into getting one of the other what would be recommended the Toyota Supra Single turbo, or the Honda S2000 2003 models? Anyone a petrol head?
I drive a 97 prelude and i must thank you for defending us moog, and showing that not all of us are like the kids that drive crappy old civics. and did you make the credits music.
The prelude is no better than the crappy old civics. It's still a fwd turd.
Don't listen to haters. The prelude still drives a lot better than most new tech-laden numb steering vehicles. Let fatasses behind the keyboard talk all they want. If you enjoy what you drive and feel involved in the process, then the platform and badge dont matter. I'm not a JDM guy but I respect Honda's engineering and their bulletproof vtec systems and manual gearboxes. Real automotive enthusiasts treat cars like music and find good in all genres, rather than being closed minded like moog stated in this video.
***** anyone that calls a car a turd just because of one aspect is completely hard headed. No it can't drift. but it can go fast as balls, a hell of a lot faster than a stock civic. and they are one of the best looking cars to ever come out of japan. They have just as many fans if not more than both the cars in this video. There are prelude clubs world wide just like there are for S2Ks, miatas. and supras. And next time someone says something about their own car, no matter what it is, I suggest you keep your bullshit inside your mouth. Because that might be the person to make your face look like a turd.
LoL you are hilarious. It has nothing to do with drifting it has to do with sideways motors and crappy little transmissions. Preludes aren't fast and everything is faster than a stock civic. If you think they are one of the best looking Japanese cars you haven't seen very many Japanese cars. Just because a car has clubs doesn't make it a good car. Next time you feel like making threats I suggest you do it in person, it will hold more weight that way.
Fucked it Marty!
the excitement on moogs face as he race is just a win all the way
where is the start (first episode) of the s2000 build I'm trying to follow it from the very beginning where you get it up until the very last race, thanks
YEA HONDA OWNERS!!!!!!!!!!
Where was the "Too soon, Junior"?
SWAT CAME INTO MY HOUSE! DISRESPECTED MY ENTIRE FAMILY!
***** And you know what? IT WAS YOU!
HarryzjEEE I NEVER NARCED ON NOBODY!!!!
I didn't get it at first but now I can't stop laughing
Really enjoy watching u guys. Thanks. Keep up the good vids :)
Get some Mazdaspeed Motor Mounts, and stiffer Diff. bushing. Will GREATLY help with the notorious 2-5 gear change in the mx-5's
What a baby. TOFU is great!
This guy Marty can't drive
I love my s2K! thank you MCM for showing its glory!
For a turbo miata owner who needs to replace his clutch this is the best outcome ever, thanks.
If you don't rev your motor past 7500 every time before you shift, life is not worth living. Somebody once said "it's all about top end flow", and I think the guy was talking about life...
would have been better off to keep the cressida! Next on mighty car mods the Mx-5 gets a GM v8 swap!
Haha! I am looking forward to see the clutch replacement and the new challenge!
20:20...that GT-R sound
That Miata would of won all those races if it wasn't for the clutch/shifting issues or so, it appeared and to be honest, I was rooting for the Honda, I do like Vtech!! lol Now, install a LS3 engine in both of those cars and the real fun will begin, the trap speeds will be 125mph+(210KPH+)!
***** LOL, I would never buy a either of those 2 cars, it's not my style but, how can someone not like saying VTECK....It's one of the best LOL's ever made and we have been laughing because of it since the 90's! You know you like to say VTEK....say it!!!! VTEK!!! Instead of saying 1000 unicorns it should be a 1000 RAINBOW PONIES!!! VTEK!!!
This is what happens when you guys rush them. we get 360p
the video is still processing on youtube, higher resolutions will be available in a couple hours
Hahaha Noob.
be happy you get anything..
By default it goes to 360p, just change to 1080p
all videos are 360 before youtube processing. im watching in 1080
my dad first had a mx5 and mated a nice T25/28 from a nissan 200sx with a sportsclutch and Greddy E-manage :) it was needed.... no he drives a pearl yellow s2000 with some nice 18inch rims :) but they where just like this evenly matched
Would a turbo shorten its life in a bmw e30 with m20 engine and whats parts should i upgrade
it annoys me how Mutton keeps peaking at Moogie Boogie while accelerating...
new clutch + better diff = moog crying
nice drag marty...keep up with new clutch..
Sick!! Nice job guys,as long as she hooks you have a good race for the mx5!
Why not take them to a circuit and put them head to head in time attack? That's kind of their natural habitat anyways
*SPOILER ALERT*
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only one thousand unicorns!! I thought they were 50,000
What's the name of the song in the end credits? iwould like to buy it. thanks :)
Kept waiting for Moog to say "too soon junior"
22mins to drag two cars? I knew Hondas and Mazdas were slow but damn.
Marty, that's what you get for hatin' on farting V-TEC unicorns, The Nissan Unicorn Union, and Flurpy's whole family. EAT TOFU!
Can't wait for the next video
Great video, wish you guys did something with a MKIV Supra though