Quickly Clarified - Cold Air Intakes vs Short Ram Intakes
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2022
- If you’ve seen any of those "Top 5 first modifications for your car" videos, you may have heard of the term “cold air intake” or “short ram intake” before, but what exactly are they? In this video, we’ll be going over what exactly is a cold air intake, and a short ram intake, as well as their differences and more importantly, which one you should get for your car.
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Another disadvantage to certain CAI systems is that the air filter is placed so low on the car that it is recommended not to drive in the rain because driving through puddles deeper than 6 or 8 inches can cause the filter to consume water and hydro lock the engine. Depending on the options it may be better to pick an SRI if you live in an area where it rains constantly.
I think this is dependent on the car and design of the CAI as I have a CAI on my lowered STi and live in a tropical country with lots of rain and its been fine but I get what you mean! Pinned your comment.
I bought an 06 tsx auto with a cold air intake plus tune. It's legit but horrible IMO so I'm in the process of detuning this car back to stock
*_There is also like a bag that goes over to help prevent most of the water / other debrees, but yeah I'll be paranoid when I get mine installed on my 97 Ek Hatch 🥹_*
I almost destroyed my car because I made a custom CAI. Thankfully spraying my MAF and driving low and slow melted the water out. Scary
@@rjaybruhh doesn't work for puddles. Trust me. I tried.
A put a short ram air intake on my 04 accord sedan and it’s like the engine got a pedicure. It’s never ran this well and smooth before
i have a 6-6 coupe and i’m thinking about getting a intake should i go SRI or CAI and can you explain why
@@2realltj if it rains alot where you live and theres big puddles id go SRI to not get hydrolocked, but SRI’ tend to heat soak after sitting for awhile, your car might feel slower, but if its dry or not too rainy get the CAI, gives most power between the two to my knowledge
They can make a big difference, I made a ram air intake for my 2020 Nissan Kicks made a very noticeable difference. Depends on where in the engine bay it's located. On mine it's almost right in front of the grill and then I took out some of the plastic allowing even more air flow into the engine bay. A lot of times allowing fresh air into the engine bay will do more than putting one of those heat shields.
@@bassw1758 I have an automatic with a manual mode as well so learning how to operate that, plus the added power. I’ve been flying 😂 20 year old Accord still has some kick, I swear the previous owner tuned it or something cuz she’s powerful
@@jacobrager9634 some of those old Hondas are fast.
Cold air intake can be implemented by ducting the hood, like in the Subary near the end of this video. You can ditch the original filter box, shorten the piping, and just allowing the air to enter through the hood. Ofc you need to take into consideration what the pressure zones are, underpressure near the front lip of the hood is great for hot air exit, but bad for taking in fresh air. Further back it tends to turn into overpressure, than can be great for taking in fresh air if your intake manifold is on that side of the engine.
Great video and very well explained! I like that you hit all the facts pros and cons but kept it short sweet and to the point at the same in a very clear steady explanation!
Keep em coming man!
Thank you! That's exactly what I'm aiming for with these style of videos. Really appreciate the feedback man!
Great and informative video. Been considering a CAI for my 2018 GX460. Personally... i think this glorious 1UR-FE deserves to be heard a bit more
Thank you! I think the induction noise on that V8 would be fun, hope it works nicely!
Loved the explanation of the video I was thinking about getting an intake and know which one to get for my car, very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video, very informative and well explained
thankyou! glad you found it helpful!
super helpful, mate. thanks a lot for this!!! probably keeping it stock since this is my daily drive
thank you! honestly nothing wrong with that especially if you're not really tuning for power
@@JCMediaYT I want style, wife wants comfort. We gotta find a compromise. I'll stick to mostly visual tuning and just get a nice exhaust instead. I drive a Honda Fit RS GE8 2011
Video is well create easily explain and the visuals was extremely helpful. Good job
Thankyou! I'm glad you found it helpful!
My options for my car is either a cold-air intake that has an exposed filter but an aluminum heatshield around it ( Sides facing engine ) VS Exact same filter/placement/piping but fully enclosed with plastic aside the vent. So filter and tubing is the exact same length. Just 6" length of silicon and the filter. But its just picking between the louder option ( exposed filter ) vs the presumably cooler option ( fully enclosed ).
Living in the salty world that is a winter state ( Michigan ) I tend to imagine the filter being open/exposed is far more maintenance than the enclosed one.
Oh yeah, I totally get your point. It's definitely down to preference and the conditions/environment your car will be in. For instance I doubt they'd use an open filter on a rally car lol. I personally live in a tropical climate so running an exposed filter + intake duct is fine for most of the time except during the monsoon season. Gotta be careful with puddles and I usually block off the intake duct to prevent any water getting in the intake.
I have one that is in closed with heat shield on the inside of box. This is on a much older car but I like it. 04 Impala SS. Maybe I'll put some heat shield on the out side of box as well. I haven't seen any gains but it looks better and you hear the air. It may gain some torque but no noticeable horsepower and maybe a little better gas mileage but not much. It's a easy job
Bro thank you for this info. 🎉
the fun thing with a Nissan Micra k11 is that you can fit a cone filter directly on the throttle body without having to cut the hood, thus making the shortest possible ram intake. its also placed on the centerline of the hood so it works well with a hood scoop. xD
Installed a K&N filter in the stock intake. Pretty happy with the increased mpg
I'm not sure if in increases horsepower by much but I do believe it could give more toque on colder day's plus just the look is a plus. I'm my opinion they are worth getting.
I do agree, for me its mainly the sound especially if its a turbocharged engine.
I dont have a cold air or short ram but i have a stock ram induction air bix with k&n performance filter and on super cold days i notice more torque and a better sound too looking for a good cold air for my Chrysler 200 3.6
@@SxOxFxGx420 so if it’s colder where u live what option would you go for cold or short
@@Sgon4nemtr7ei in honesty a cold air would be suitable if you want to upgrade it I think even the stock air box with a k&n filter is nice af but i do plan on getting a cold air with heat shield the less hot air the better
So should I use a Short Ram Intake if my engine bay is pretty much warm? I bought a RTunesRacing intake for my 96 explorer.
i have a injen CAI on my 14 mazda6 and a FSWERKS CAI on my 06 Focus. Both gain torque over all but especailly at higher rpm. i recently smogged both and had to add the stock intakes back on for the test and its a night and day difference.
What do you do with vacuum lines that run to the stock air box
If pic SRI for my sti 2011 should i must go to tunners because i dont have cobb access port etc. I like CAI but im worried about hydrolock the engine. Btw does SRI bring some power and noises from turbo i like to hear it more
Thanks, I'm bout to be hella loud in my 98 odyssey with the short ram hehe
ps, I'm a delivery driver and with an aftermarket exhaust setup. The highflow cat, high flow res and a straight through muffler (recipe for loud and staying epa compliment somehow, also cause its my company car) so I'm already locally hated but the boys who know love it
I basically did the same but on a 04 Impala SS with flow masters 40 series. I also have a catted downpipe from zzp.
@anthonydefr oh soot son! my dad has a emblem of the impala ss framed on our wall for being a test driver at gm (2004). I also want to Swap an ls4 into my car. Just imagine, lining up next to a minivan that makes v8 noises and cam chop sounds maybe, the ultimate grocery getter 😏
Mb it was a Monte Carlo ss but same engine
Minivan with a muffler delete and high flows, plus says he’s “locally hated”… yea you’re one of those guys huh
@Jay-rg5mt I know man... almost put that sticker shit on my car until i saw drewpeacock going down the rabbit hole of cringe. I had that first car love on me back then. The exhaust is actually pretty mild with a nice low tone no rasp. Switched out the high flow with an oem like caravan cat. Anyway, I bought the van exhaustless, I was a broke boy, and Amazon was clutch with the sales. Oem did not look worth. Also I usually get 30mpg on the highway and 25 combined, so I guess all those straight through resonators paired with the short ram made it more efficient.
Great video, anyone that lives in cold places like i do knows that cold air makes great power
Yup! Unfortunately I live in a tropical country so I need a lot of heatshields and intake ducts lol
Just went back to the stock. Erin takes it up on my 2003 mustang GT. Had a short ram typhoon on it for almost 20 years.
how did it compare to the stock intake?
I am searching a cold air intake for the N47 bmw f20 diesel engine. Can someone help me to find it ?
Great Video!!
thankyou!
Will adding a short tan intake affect reliability due to more added heat?
Just put a K&N Typhoon aluminum CAI into my '23 Camaro 3LT tonight. Of those 5 notes on CAI, only two are factual: best overall performance and most expensive (you get what you pay for).
Medium volume? No
Complex piping? Definitely not... very simple actually
Heavier? Maybe... if you get the aluminum pipe like mine--worth it though
I drove it around the block after install and, going from stock to CAI, helluva difference. The sound, of course, but the power from the much improved intake was very pronounced.
Im gonna get a cold air intake because im not in a rush to build a car and just wanna do everything in a way thats gonna work right for a long time
Totally agreed, better to take things slow but do it properly!
I have a 2012 Scion xB. 2.4 Camry motor 2AZFE. The HPS short Ram intake offers 7.1hp + 8.1 torque. Comes with a big heat shield. We'll see if they deliver on their promises. Liked & Subscribed.
It wont
@JohnBoulding always a hater in the crowd. Like companies waste thousands if not a couple million dollars developing intakes,testing them and marketing the results. Suckers think if you're not as fast as a 5.0 Mustang instantly, it's a failure. Smh. You do your thing, I'll do mine.
Did you see any difference in performance, I might get the same one?
I would reconmend Short Ram Intakes #1 cost less #2 less weight (most of your efficacy gain racing or normal driving is with weight over hp ) #3 fewer parts/things to go wrong. #4 usually the air is drier (less oxidation in the engine) #5 You can get more MPG... combo of #2 less weight + with adding filter medium (like prefilter or even socks) or even a restrictor or venturi = more bottom end throttle response and MPG.
Hot air intake
Like i had to remind someone, haters think that companies, waste thousands if not millions of dollars, developing, testing, and marketing proven results from short ram intakes. They think if you're not as fast as a 5.0 Mustang instantaneously, its a waste of money and time. Like getting 7 to 10 more horses to the crank, and better throttle response means nothing. Haters hate for the sake of just hating. There's one in every crowd..
Completely agree with you!. Sometimes those hating have never even experienced it themselves, and are just talking here-say from some crappy TikTok mechanic who knows jackshit lol.
I like the real air intake, forced like turbo or supercharger, now those make a difference you can feel.
Great video and thank you for making it short, that makes me click
Thank you! I prefer to keep it short and straight to the point so I'm glad you like the format!
Got the AEM Cold Air intake on my 2008 Civic Si and it sounds good. It was a bitch to put on, but no regrets. I paired it with a Yonaka Catback exhaust and the sound is much louder than stock but not obnoxious.
I have a K&N intake on my STi and my god the induction noises are so addicting lol. I bet the VTEC crossover sounds addicting too on that Si...
Definitely!
CAI May be used and can have some cons in car without turbo or IC. My 330Ci'04 got cold air intake from factory part of front bumper put air to brake Channels and part of it put air into air filter Space. Basically BMW intakes are designed great.
I have a 2020 Chevy Malibu Turbocharged and it’s short ram intake is on the top and I want to get a cold air intake for it or something to get rid of that stock box and to hear my turbocharger more but would it be best to get an exhaust system first?
Find out how much tune is , just doing a intake or exhaust or both won't get what you could get with a proper tune .
Only reason I’d do anything Is because I can tell mine needs more air but due to where my current air filter housing is I could make a mix between short ram and cool air due to my grill being so big and my engine bay staying fairly cool especially in that area
Me too thats def. The best option
How do I know whether the engine needed more air or not
@@darderdor1557 it really just comes down to feel but you can take it to a tuner to see if you need more air or fuel for power my car has a learning ecu and can remap it self(within small limits) to account for more air or fuel so the more air I get the more fuel it puts in and my intake is restrictive and I added a better air filter and it made a noticeable difference
@@ethanmccoy1680 thanks for the reply. Its kinda hard to find a place that could do dyno tune in my area, is regular ecu remapping capable of detecting all that? Sorry for the dumb-level question, never done anything other than changing oil and regular service, i just started looking into these tuning and modding stuff
@@darderdor1557 it’s all good as far as I know not all cars have that ability but if your just putting on a cold air intake and or maybe a less restrictive exhaust you should be okay you just won’t notice much gain unless your engine really needed it it’ll help more at higher altitudes tho
I have a Sri on my car and my temp gauge stock vs Sri is the same temp how long do you think the air stays cold when it hits 400 to 500 degrees in a engine
you have an intake air temp gauge???
@JCMediaYT yes and it reads the same also just putting your hand on it tells you alot my sri ain't any hotter then my stock I can't explain it but my car gets way more performance with my sri in lower gears I'm no mechanic but it's what I feel jmopand if nothing else at least it's washable and cheaper in the long run that why I bought it it sits in my factory airbox with heatshield maybe I should go back to stock tho
which would you really recommend for 99 crv??
can i put cold air intake on 2011 corolla axio ? Will it get any benefit ? please help thank you.
You could but I don't know if there would be much gain to be had
Where did you bought it?
What about short ram system thats positioned inside the open filter box where theres cold air from the grill
I guess at that point it's kind of just down to how you define the two systems. Regardless, any kind of intake that gets fresh air from the outside and has some kind of barrier to shield it from the engine bay air will perform the best (apart from a direct headlight intake duct).
Unless you need more than twice the amount of air the factory car needs there is zero point changing anything but the OEM panel filter to a better flowing performance one.
yeah, aftermarket drop-in filters aren't bad at all
I wanted the sound ao I just got a k&n filter without thinking and got the piping for it and chucked it all together I just need to get a vented hood now to cool it down a bit in there
a vented hood could definitely help
Do you have to retune the engine if you install a cold air or short ram intake?
ideally yes...
@@JCMediaYT not with the Mishimoto Cold Air Intake
My skoda makes a water gurgling noise from dashboard for 3/4 seconds on ignition
Any remedy for it
New car
@@mehtabhussain6104 Thx … u r late … issue resolved .. air pockets in the cooling system was the issue. Few people know their Job.
Trying to fix overheating
What about fuel consumption? Will it increase or decrease by sri or cai?
since SRI may decrease performance, you might experience decreased fuel consumption too whereas the CAI gets more consistent performance, so it may or may not improve. Your experience will definitely vary depending on your car though
Sri doesn't reduce performance; I have one.
As soon you install you see a difference in power
Has anyone put a intake on a Nissan Sentra 2020 or will it even work I haven’t seen any videos I’m trying to put one on for my car but there isn’t any intake for my car let me know thank you ❤
Should be pretty easy to fabricate one, big engine compartment, small engine, on Amazon they sell mass airflow sensor adapters for Nissans, after that plug a k&n Cone filter and make a bracket for support. I had to fabricate a sort ram intake for my 2020 Kicks(no one sells one) made a big difference, I took some of the plastic out on the grill to get more air into the engine compartment.
Yes there’s even direct bolt in kits but most are only short ram intake. A true cold air takes some custom piping. If you’re looking for serious performance increase spend the money on the custom cold air intake but if you’re just looking for a cheap easy boost, better sound, & slightly better fuel economy the bolt In short ram is more than adequate.
If you do install one you need to clean & may even need to replace the mass airflow sensor and be ready for the car to run rough for the first 25-50 miles while the air intake sensor & engine computer sync with the increase in airflow from the intake upgrade.
Overall it’s a very good upgrade for Nissans all around and worth it
Good video
thank you!
Explained everything so smooth a ten yeae old kid could understand
thank you!
I put a short ram intake on my Spyder gts
Always go with colder air
exactly why I have a CAI on my car.
i was thinking about it, car have more power with cold air, right. SO why not connect AC to cold air intake
filters that sit super low on the car is not recommended in south Florida or any place that receives a lot of rain. You will get water all over that thing when you go through the puddles.
Yup, I agree. Having those filter socks/wraps might help but definitely not recommended for those with tons of rain.
What’s better to put on my ricer 2013 hyundai accent gs hatch? nah serious question tho lol
i mean presumably you're not really going for performance (not that you'll gain much anyways lol), I'd just go for a short ram since its cheaper and (usually) louder if that's what you want. otherwise i'd just leave it stock
Thank you for the video. My daily driver is an 03 Honda Civic which is know to have transmission issues and head gasket issues. I’m assuming the head gasket trouble comes from overheating. My dad and I replaced the radiator, the cooling fan, and the air filter. I need this car for one more year at least, and I thought maybe replacing the oem box with an cold air intake would help, but it seems to me my car is not really going to be driving fast it redlines. Guess there are no other mods I can add to help it remain cool.
You can add extra fans
more air flow on intake not gonna cool down the motor , unless urr doing the cold air intake which breath in cold air , it wont make difference on power by just installing an intake , at leat sport back exhaust and headers and a ecu tune , when u got more air flow , definitely gonna need a richer fuel map
What’s best for hot climates?
Definitely a cold air intake
Can you install a intercooler even if you don't plan on getting a turbo?
there's no point in doing that
Hot air intake
Stinky air intake
Ram intake, one word... Heatsoak. Better off with a closed airbox in that case imo.
Short ram. Less performance, more for looks and sound.
Cold air.. performance gains harder to install
Short ram aka hot air intake
yup lol
I wouldn’t waste my time and money on any cold air intake,they are only for looks and sound and have been proven in most cases engines actually loose power instead of gaining power on naturally aspirated engines.
Short ram intakes are pointless for performance unless you want the noise get a real C.I.A. just because it's noisy doesn't mean it's faster
exactly!
Never heard of short ram lol
its better that way lmao
@@JCMediaYT what if what I got for my car is called a short ram cold air intake system?
Am I the only person to put the CAI inside my car going through two different ice chests to get +4 hp.
I’m just kidding but sounds interesting hahahahaha.
I have definitely seen some people try that before but I'm not sure what the benefits are as opposed to just using an intercooler
why is it a cold air intake? it is in the engine compartment surrounded by hot air sucking in nothing but hot air, a useless mod that looks cool under the hood and the sound
I mean properly designed cold air intakes will have an entire airbox with ducting either from the front grille or from the fender well. Of course there's gonna be a lot of general marketing bs with the names but yeah.
was wondering, all the ones i see is open in engine compartment, i know that's not doing any good@@JCMediaYT
umm stock intake is prob the best since its actually engineered for your engine
It’s also engineered to meet EPA standards and govt regulations. Not like it’s engineered for the absolute max performance
😂
Non of them add any kind of performance
it depends on a case by case basis
It’s minimal but it can help performance, depending on different factors
Neither one does a thing. Marketing gimmicks.
This is simply not true not all engines and setups benefit but some definetly do
Both are a waste of money withoout an ecu tune. Stay stock and use OEM filter
Mishimoto Cold Air Intake does not require an ECU tune at all.
2018 Civic Turbo here. Didn’t need a tune. Mishimoto stated it themselves as well.
Couldn’t be further from the truth.
@@keiranlambert5948believe what you want but the "gains" claimed by intake makers are usually within the margin of error of a Dyno. Claims over those numbers are padded.
Almost all modern cars have a cai from the factory as it is shielded, has a Hemoltz resonator to cancel valve air pulses, which helps engine breathing. The only intakes that make real power without a tune were the few that had a MAF piggy back module to alter what the ECU sees. These intakes are for looks and sound.
Not true for modern applications. The ECUs in modern vehicles are far more adaptive than their predecessors. For example. I have all bolt-on upgrades on my 1.6T 2014 Kia Proceed GT. It used to make 17PSI boost max, and 265nm max. It now makes 18.5PSI boost and maxes out the 300nm gauge. It runs very clean, i have a catch can and their is only ever a slight vapour, yet i put 20,000km on the vehicle each year.
Performance gains you’re absolutely correct but fuel efficiency gain and throttle response & sound gains I disagree.
I put at least a short ram on every car I own and it always improves the gas mileage the throttle response on acceleration and when combined with a decent exhaust system(even with a stock one) the sound is noticeably better and smoother.
But I’ll acknowledge that actual horsepower gain yes ecu tune is 100% needed if you really want to improve the actual performance and power. You might get a little gain as the video points out but it’s nothing worth bragging about though true enough.
End of the day I say your car is your car and is yours to do what you want with. Long as you’re happy with what ever you did & didn’t blow it up doing it lol you do you! Short ram is a good beginner mod if you’re not a super pro at tuning yet or if you’re on a small budget or it’s just for your daily driver car but if you’re a serious tuner or want to really take your car to next level yes cold air intake & absolutely yes get a ecu tune done along with it! You’ll be glad you did