Performance Air Filters - K&N vs AEM vs BMC - DYNO TEST
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Hi everyone! In this episode we'll test 3 different performance air filters to find out if they really offer any extra horsepower and how good are they at particle separation.
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Video chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Performance Filters overview
1:51 - The tested products
3:24 - Particle separation test overview
4:40 - Particle separation test
6:42 - Filter construction
8:00 - Dyno test overview
10:00 - Dyno test - Mahle NEW vs Mahle USED
10:54 - Dyno test - Performance filters test
11:25 - Dyno test - Performance filters results
14:45 - Outro - Авто та транспорт
Probably one of the nicest guys in all of UA-cam. Thanks for all the efforts. 👍👍
I just love your very detailed reviews with a dash of humor! Keep em coming! =D
Excellent video, even though I was expecting the filters to work. The way he explains the conditions makes it great learning
K&N is the manufacturer of AEM and Spectre. All of the filter types cross over between all of them. I've worked at K&N for years.
hello folks,
Absolutely authentic and transparent test.
Thank you very much Sir.
Best testing I've got ever seen on YT.
It will be difficult to be even better!
Greetings
Marcel
Respect pt munca depusă, realizez ca a ti-a luat foarte mult timp ! Excelent video!
I've used a k&n drop in filter for 20 years. The same filter, just rinse and lightky re-oil. I have not had any issues with it. I've put about 80k miles on the filter and it still works great.
80k miles probably isn’t enough to notice a difference in engine life.
I believe it’s worth the price upfront. Washable filter will pay for its self within 3 yrs
Never had a K&N throw a code. If you over oil them your doing it wrong.
Yeah, ok. But has your engine been protected? Looks like the K&N is actually very bad at its main job, filtering. It was almost as bad as no filter at all in this test.
150,000 in 6 years
Felicitari pentru continut. Videourile tale necesita foarte mult echipament si pregatiri!
Great test! Really appreciated the dyno run which makes this an actual test thus no statements based on personal feeling or suggestions
Awesome vid! Also so much information gained from this video so much more than others I’ve watched. TY!!
Good quality for such a small channel.
Thanks for your work.
Excellent detailed & easy to understand comparisons. Thanks & keep up the good work!
Keep up your great work!!! Great tests, thanks!
Very informative videos, really liked it. Please keep uploading the great videos like this.
Your level of effort is incredible. Amazing!
Love your reviews man!! Very scientific!! Keep up the cool reviews!! 👍🏻
Thank you for this video! Clear and exactly what I was looking for!
Amazing video! Definitely going to reference this video when talking about intake systems!
to test the flow performance of the filters try using your diy chamber and pull air using a blower fan or better a vacuum cleaner, then measure the pressure drop inside with an low pressure sensor.
For remapping the car if you don’t want to add too much extra stress on components you can try keeping the old torque up to higher revs until you reach the desired horse power. for example 250Nm @4000rpm would give you 140Hp
I loved this video. You are bringing the truth out. Many people don't believe me when im explaining this to them.
After so many years of pondering how really those filters outperform one another now I got the clearest idea. Thanks for this very helpful info. More please on some aspects about car performance!!
Really awesome test!
Benson and Gabor two of the best testers of automotive products on YT 👍🏻👍🏻
@@RickyG84 😁 don't forget the king of us all, Project Farm! :D
By far, the most reliable, easy to understand, not wasting my time, scientific test, I have ever seen!!! I am also an engineer in Auto Sales Business, who has a stage1 remapped Z4 20i. Now, If you have renewed the test after you remap your car, this video should have been your Phd :) please update it while your car is remapped.
Thank you for this video, the result surprised me, but also pleased me, as now I am confident that leaving the original filter in my car is all I need to get maximum power from my engine !
Fucking hell, what a quality video. Mad props, mate. Thanks for all the time and study you put into this!
Conținut excelent, tine-o tot asa. ✌️
Excelent video-ul! Cautam asa ceva de cateva luni si nu pot sa cred ca am gasit chiar de la un roman, felicitari! Mi-am luat un filtru con pentru masina si, chiar daca suna mult mai bine motorul, nu puteam nici cum sa merg cu el linistit pe strada ca si daily driver. Tot timpul imi statea pe cap ideea ca "da, acum e bine, dar in 20.000km cum va fi?". Multumesc tare mult, m-ai salvat de o groaza de stres! Subscribed
I put an AEM in my new Subaru as soon as I got home from the dealership. It’s been a year and thanks to your video I may swap back to the OEM filter
great video Sergui , well explaned and good documentation
Best video on this subject I’ve seen. Thank you
Thank you for the proper explanation of having direct intake air filter vs placing the filter exposed under the bonnet
I kinda like that the AEM doesn't need to be replaced as often. Not surprised that OEM is ideal for a typical daily driver.
KN is exactly the same.
Higher flow air filters are better for forced induction vehicles with either turbo or supercharger.
@@user-is1xn4xt9nThe opposite: are better on NA engine.
On new turbo engine air pressure on intake is constantly measured... If is less the waste gate open later to give same air pressure.
Obviously in standard condition... If you make big tuning is different.
@ziofrenko not always as my car has twin turbos and doesn't have a maf sensor, my car uses speed density by a boost pressure sensor and a map sensor. Thus getting g more air since the wastegates are electronic controlled and by boost pressure only. Most newer cars use a maf sensor aka Mas airflow sensor that meters measured air coming in. And adjust fuel and boost accordingly. The only place u run into problem is by running a bov on a maf car and can cause the car to run lean or to rich and stall. On a car with speed density it doesn't matter. As there is no maf to Metter air coming in. Also having a high flow air filter doesn't effect either vehicle only bov or bod aka diverted valve. And a tune. But just a filter ur ecu should acount for more air adjusting a/f ratio and to do it properly u have to remove negative battery cable and wait a few hrs then re connect this will reset the long term and short term fuel trims. And force ecu re learn.
Thank you. I just ordered an AEM to replace the K&N engine air filter on my car. I put a Mahle in the cabin this time but I'll most likely put a K&N one in there around my next oil change.
Honestly got it for the reusable aspect rather than performance. I don't like waste 😅 but i also don't want my engine to go to waste from the lack of filtration from K&N so thanks again for this video 🙏🏼
Makes no sense. Why would you put a k&n cabin filter in next time
Thanks for sharing! This was a really interesting insight into filter options
Very good information, definately an eye opener for a lot of people.
An honest review a breath of fresh air
Thank you for such an illustrative video.
High quality content! Thx! :)
Very helpful and extremely thorough!
Thank you
Excelent ca de fiecare dată! Eu de la tine am aflat și de atunci tot Mahle iau. În plus, îs făcute la Timișoara. Dacă ai putea testa și cu motor aspirat natural ar fi ceva. Totuși pentru 2-3 cai în plus, nu știu dacă are sens uzura în plus a motorului, mai ales la cât praf e la noi...
It would have been interesting to see how the filters performed after the remap. Thank you for video and information as per usual.
Yes, exactly!
As the original filter is well calibrated enough for the original power, doesn't it limit the power after remap?!
This. Performance parts benefit greatly after a remap I was able to achieve 20bhp with just CAI and downpipe.
@@gwenc8900 It definitely does. I had a remapped 1.4Tjet with a slightly bigger turbo . It did 180+ on dyno with stock filter.After upgrading to a aftermarket performance filter it gained like 5hp. It did 184.8 .9
@@whitegptjet I think it's placebo effect here.
I have a 455bhp/634nm custom mapped M140i, and I use the standard BMW air filter. Even at the power I am running, the various air filters I tried made zero difference.
You have to remember, BHP can not be measured, only calculated, and if you put the same car, on the same dyno, with the same filter fitted, and do 10 dyno runs, you will get 10 different figures.
So many things come into play, and every dyno & mapper has their own calculations for measuring BHP.
Any tiny variations of plus or minus 5 BHP are simply down to these natural variations on each run.
People are always looking for gains on engines and believe any old shyte, and performance filter manufacturers are just selling a dream.
An engine is basically just an air pump, and so long as you are getting enough air into the engine (even from a standard filter), the intake temps, timing, and fuelling can only do so much. Adding more air flow from the intake won't gain you any extra power unless everything else is adjusted to balance that out and take advantage of it.
The thing which is holding my car back is fuelling, and to get my engine to around 480-490 BHP an upgraded high pressure fuel pump is needed. I could fit one and keep the standard air filter, and still get the same power regardless.
Just for balance, I work in the motor industry too, and actually sell parts including K&N filters. We had the reps from K&N in to our office, to 'train' us about their products. We all came away with the same opinion, which was basically overpriced shyte.
@@DjNikGnashers Hi. I believe you. All turbos work the same: they are set to gain particular overpressure compared to non-turbo engines. If there is too high air pressure special valve releases part of this additional air or there is mechanism inside turbo which decrease air pressure (depends on model). So until we don`t have too much overboosted engine k&n air lifter shoud not give any gains.
clean video - great work!
I appreciate the information and what it to took get it...so thank you my friend. You saved us money. Subscribed and like!
Great video! I've been using K&N air filters for well over 10 years and no issues. About 300,000KM on my Silverado.
Excellent comparison. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing this. Hopefully I was able to change my filter out soon enough to prolong the life of my engine.
Really good and clear video, thank you so much from italy
Excellent review! I love the evidence based decision
Amazing explanation and experience, congratulations very very good job. Liked the scientific approach
Great video and comparison!
thank you man . i like all your pro videos !
Absolutely excellent video!
Great informational video! Thanks👍
Excellent video!👍
Awesome work & thank you!
This man is sth else.huge respect for you mr.gabor
I'm surprised the AEM is so good without any 🛢️ on it that's impressive for being a "dry flow" filter so there's really no chance to mess up your mass air flow sensor from the oil 🛢️ on the filter + easier 2 clean👍👍
@@you_can_fuck_your_own_ass_69 no its been debunked that oil gets on a sensor after it has been oiled properly. Keyword. Dont over oil it and you will NEVER have a problem. People like to WELL over oil thinking more is better. A very light coat of oil is all that is needed. Never had a problem in 35+ years.
Your videos and your presentation are awesome. You should keep doing this.
So happy that you also came to the conclusion that a somewhat dirty filter is more efficient than a new. Not easy to convince people about that. Worked with filtration for 8 years
but look how less the air volume it can only get mate.
Haven’t changed mine in 40km and it’s still pretty damn clean haha no use changing
Excellent video! I was hoping to see a comparison to the aFe dry filter -- but this is a great start!
Thank you for your contribution, quite rewarding. 😊
I have to admit, I am quite impressed that the Dyno proves on a commonality that high-performance air filters do not necessarily make the best gain. Rather, the gain is done electronically and mechanically through the engine itself. I’ve known for over a decade how bad K&N filters are and have profusely tried to share the same knowledge so others are aware of how bad they actually filter particles. I was a diehard K&N fan, until somebody educated me like this guy did as well. If you can hold your filter up to the sun and see that burning ball through some of the micro pleats, you know the filter is not filtering. This is the baseline reason why K&N suffers at filtration for particles, but exceeds an air passage. Great job on explaining it here as well too!.
I'm 63 years old & have owned 14 vehicles in my driving history since 1975 when I was 15 years old..I've used K&N Clean & Oil filters since then👍
Excellent video.thank you knowing the filters are a scam is very angering.Liars and cheats all around us,all the time
It's well known among auto engineers the larger particle score your pistons rings.But idiots out there won't listen to logic
@GTNova000 as if that can be proven.. I'm sure there are plenty of scored chamber walls and damaged piston rings from dirt out there.
63 years old, and still believing the same old shyte sold to you by marketing companies selling you a dream.
Sad mate.
But the video shows it's a bad filter compared to dry one.. personally my maf sensor went faulty with k&n after some 3 months of use
That dyno graph looks fun!
This was an excellent video, thank you
Good demo, you answered my questions.
Excellent vid. Liked and subbed.
I love this topic thanks man
Very well done - thank you!
thank you so much, you're a gift!!!
I Would like seeing you making a Test with a Pipercross Airfilter.
Really great Video and great to see all the Results you got out of there .
Excellent explanation 👌
Awesome Work
Thank You for this information!
With all the information so far, I think Sotck OEM Mahle Filter will work well. Also, You have done good work and put great effort for this video. Kudos to you have thank you for your efforts.
GREAT JOB!
Merci ! C'est une excellente vidéo 😀
Very informative video. Thank you.
Great video, thanks!
Great video - subscribed - thanks!
I've learnt a lot from your video. Thanks. Next time I need a new filter, instead of forking out £20 to £30 for a new one, I'm going to cut out the filter material from the old filter and replace it with a few layers of J-cloth or microfibre cloth. I reckon this will cost about £15 to £25 LESS than a new filter and will probably work just as well. I might experiment with soaking the cloths in the oil used to lubricate chain-saw blades as this is quite a 'sticky' type of oil.
Great review thanks for pulling this together!
Excellent video
This is the one I’ve been waiting for! I decided I won’t buy an air filter till this was uploaded
Thank you. I learned a lot.
Thanks for this review, I like K&N filters but knew they let in too much dirt so I dont use them. After seeing this, the AEM is comparable and is a better filter as far as good air flow with good filtering.
I used a K&N filter for like 150k km and now the engine consumes alot of oil :(
WIX is actually doing the same as AEM, but WIX is a lot cheaper.
If its about filtering micro dust, take Hengst or Alco filters.
@@bogdaniojescu5889 I just bought a k&n filter🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ is it really that bad
@@nizo6673 my engine had 358k km and it eats 1l of oil every 300 km.
@@bogdaniojescu5889 Is that due to the air filter, or is it just worn from all the use?
Awesome content! How the hell have you not done a single a brake pad comparison yet?!!?
Very nice. Thank you!
Awesome video man!! I like your cientific approach, been a cientific myself! You even had a 3D printer (pink filter holder) and do arduino stuff! Great!! I was wondering if i should change the standar filter in my Jeep Wrangler with a Pentastar engine or keep the paper one (a high quality japanese one). I will keep the one I am using, cause I live in Chile and climate is desert, so a lot of dust everywhere and the oiled ones get clogged fast. I will only change the intake hose and get rid of the resonator.
Thanks a lot! New subscriber here!
Hi. Nice video. The experiment about the dust is very importat. I need to mention that at new cars 2013 year and after putting a different filter ecu needs 3-4 days to read changes about air mettering. Fiesta 1.0 ecoboost 140ps. When i put k&n filter, hks and original the differences were after the third day. I start seaching about that and that happens.even new bikes
Thank you for all your efforts and time to make this clear and informative video,.Iv used k&n and I admit it's the worst thing I have used.
Excellent video. Thanks for taking the time to share. Cheers
Thanks for the informative video
Also worth noting that small oil particles can be induced in to the intake air track from these filters and this can coat the element of the MAF sensor causing over time the sensor to read lower than expected - this in turn actually causes a slight loss in engine power due to the slight under reading of air mass intake caused by this contamination.
pcv and egr make the most of dirt in intake, not dust that passed filter
@@makantahi3731 I am not talking about dust or the filter itself, I am talking about the oil soak in the filter being sucked in to the intake system and contaminating the MAF sensor.
You are right PCV and EGR contribute most to the intake system, so that’s exactly why these are passed in to the intake system AFTER the delicate MAF sensor, so not relevant to my comment at all.
That`s what happened to my Golf 4 Gti 1.8t back in the days. And believe me, the loss of power was significant. Since around 2010 all my cars get Pipercross, non-oiled filters. Sure, no extra power but just a little bit of cleaning every now and then and no waste, gives a good feeling.
@@makantahi3731 Those are always placed after the MAF.
@@makantahi3731oil from the PCV is burned. Silicon goes on to travel through your engine and scratch your pistons and cylinders
Thank you sir. I was eyeing the AEM, cause I still care about my motor.
Bune documentația și testele, felicitări. Iar concluzia...cine vrea sa fie sincer cu el însuși...
thanks a lot man. too many speculations about these types of air filters....
Thanks , great job
Thanks for this video
O yeah this is one of the best review ever love your work keep it up.