I got this bike in 2022 (european version). Got a similar air filter and a full exhaust from black widow and wen to reflash it to a local shop near me. Even the guy was impressed by the graph on this bike, so smooth an linear. Went from stock 149HP 118NM to 169HP 124NM. Spectacular performance from the engine tbh
@@lifewithmike1883 nope, at the wheel in a dyno. maybe our differences in measure in Europe and United States, (assuming you are from there) add more difference. In my case it's been a couple of months and the thing seems to go airborn in any moment haha
Nice video mate. If the owner rides the bike under 6000rpm most of the time would it be expected to use less fuel after the tune considering it was running Rich before?
@donnyazoff980 it all depends on driving habits all in all! If you are cruising then it should pick up a decent bit of mpg but hammering on the throttle then nah 😅
OK, this is the first video for my bike that has actually convinced me that I can gain more power. Like your presentation, no overdramatic yelling or yammienoob BS, just straight talk, data and results. Well done 👍
H@@provenpowercyclesHello just a question about getting this bikes ecu flashed in the same way. So can I just send you my ecu and have you put the same tune on it and buy the same mods. I had a tuner send a pre flashed ecu for my crf 300l and that worked really well. I don't have the bike but im thinking of getting one and selling my old k8 750 for the riding position .
I have to say, I liked your attitude with your introduction on this video. Very unlike some other motorcycle tuners that feel they are the God's Gift to motorcyclists. Excellent outcome and safe increase to the performance of that GSXS. Thanks for the good video. This one I actually enjoyed watching, without having to cringe every time you spoke. It is appreciated.
I have great respect for your work. I have the same motorcycle. 150 horsepower is really enough.Suzuki's engine blocks are very torquey and feel lively. Too much power for a naked motorcycle is a bit pointless.
Nice job... I have a 23 with full Yoshi and high flow filter, Chris Moore got 149 out of mine... Basically the same for intensive purposes. It makes sense as this motor made 165 in the gsxr back in the day... Take out the euro 5 and there ya go... I love this bike and for the price nothing can touch it!!!
@@MotoLopez1kthese bikes are very restricted they come 150 at the crank but with a good tuned exhaust and air filter you can get close to 1:50 at the wheel
Man you did an awesome job on the dyno with tuning this gsx-s1000👍🏻👍🏻 I used to have a 2016 gsx-s 1000 and loved it so much but don’t have it anymore…I plan on getting the new one and I will definitely bring it to you guys to tune for sure because you do a great job of taken care of not beating on the bike for a little adjustment to the computer, a lot of respect for you..plus I live in Florida in the Orlando area so I will bring my bike to you when I get it👍🏻
The updated model runs smaller TB's, milder cams. Top power is down about 8-10 hp, and 4-5 ft-lb. Suzuki claimed it's for better midrange, but that's "marketing speak" for "we actually can't pass Euro5 with the old setup, so we are forced to do this."
In 2018 I got a 2017 S-1000 phantom and unfortunately it really did not like being modified. Had constant FI light issues, throttle response issues etc and even took it to be mapped in the hopes of it solving the issue. The bike refused to even map. Eventually I just sold it. Miss that bike every day lol
This is a heavily restricted bike - due to the regulatory requirement by the Japanese DTO and national transportation insurance mandate (same goes for MT-10 and CB 1000R as well). If you want to fully blow it, flash ECU (Yahagihara Custom has ECU from hell and back), and Yoshimura outfit, you should get about 20 more horses...or even more depending on your set up.
Looking to get my 2020 Katana tuned soon. Not really looking to change the whole exhaust but remove the air restrictor and get rid of the timing retardation on lower gears.
Hi, where to start tuning? Do I need to find specialist or is there enough information on the internet? Do you reckon I could try to DIY tune a bike or I will mess it up?
It all depends on the bike and what your targets are 💪 yoshi, m4 are great for budget friendly exhausts. Brocks, akrapovic and a couple others are great all around but expensive. SC project, AR are also great but hard to find full systems for most bikes.
Who knows if the M4 header design is actually that good. Brock's Performance makes header systems for certain models and they usually run a much larger than OEM I.D. for better flow. Exhaust companies have limited R&D depending on what model they are selling for. That means not ever single model is going to have optimal flow. This M4 muffler is obnoxious. So little baffling.
Would the silencer give the bike a little more torque at lower rpm? I had a full yoshi system on my gsxs1000f, and even after a ecu flash, I feel like I lost significant torque in the lower ends
That just means the flash you received most likely isn't right for your bike. Did you get it dyno tuned or just a mail in flash? I see a lot of mail in flashes with horrible fuel / ignition maps attached to them.
@meesturkrabs1117 Danos is pretty good all in all. I would reach out to them and see what they can do to rectify the situation for you. That's the crappy part about mail in flashes. Without a datalogger or dyno, there is no real way to see what your bike is doing in order to fix it. The only thing they have to go off of is what you are telling them in regards to how the bike feels. If you want us to redo it, we can, but again, I would reach out to Danos first and see what can be done to fix it 👍👍
We have not. The owner of the bike loves it and we have not heard of any issues such as that yet. Do you have bar ends ? Usually bar ends help with some vibrations when riding
We have a local shop in KY that has dyno and says they can tune my 2023 gsxr1000, but told I would need a power commander….?? After all the tuning videos I have never you guys talk about needing a power commander… should I stay from this shop???
was looking at one of these sit up righty gixers to replace my sport bike, tbh i was expecting more from the suzuki my old 08 gen 3 zx10 puts out 166 bhp with only a cat delete slip on k &n and flash. thanks for the vid.
If you spend most of your ride at 150+ then don't by any naked sportbike other than the m1000r or the Ducati. If you spend most of your time from 0-120 you won't be disappointed with this machine. I came of multiple liter bikes then a gen 3 Hayabusa and lovebthis bike. It's so much more usable power, they are geared different than regular sportbikes
Mainly what you would call canyon riding mike, some of the group got them big dukes and can get quite enthusiastic on the more Open stuff and I like to keep them honest. I cut the legs on the ten minus one on the front , Speedo healer, suspension job, There are times when mid 160s are required.@@lifewithmike1883
The gsx-s750 is also restricted from the factory. I have a 2022 gsx-s750 and a 2023 gsx-s1000gt plus... both are restricted in the ECU. The s750 is limited to 9k in 4th, 5th, and 6th. On mine I pulled the secondary throttlebody butterflies out. I have to down shift a gear or two if I want to pass someone. But other then that it all good. And no more 9k restriction.
@bhok1971 I removed them out of my GSX-S750. No issues. I get great fuel mileage. I'm not out racing anyone. If I'm rumming around 60 mph or so and I hammer down on it. The bike is a little laggy. But if I drop down a gear or two,,, no issue. Do what ever you want, but my bike has plenty of power and I get over 55mpg
@@hahdwerk596 my bike gets around 50 - 55 mpg in town and 60 mpg when im cruising out in the country. Before I removed the butterflies it would range between 40- 45 mpg at best. I cant reccommend removing them, but if you choose to and you do t like the way it runs.... you can always reinstall them.
Nice video, according to factory specifications, Suzuki has 150 horsepower, it is already known that Suzuki has more horsepower in practice, but I don't see it here!!! Any way great video Be safe & God bless
@@vyomparmar9261yep and $2800 will get you a lot of comfort/performance mods if you want em. Not to mention that if you look around you can find em gently l used at the sub $8500 mark. Thats a lot of bike for the money.
Nice work..im thinking about buying one..but....the problem is I actually own a 2006 gsxr1000..the original bike this motor was copied from and on Sunday morning in Socal I've come across the gsx-s1000 on multiple occasions and my Gixxer just absolutely devastated every one of these bikes..im talking about..uhhh ..see ya...bye...so even tho the comfort is appealing the bike is slow in my honest real world observation...so im doing research to see if there's hope to make it move like it should... what about buying one and just pulling the motor and installing a 05/06 Gixxer motor..🤔
Man if 150hp on street / back roads isn't enough for you may be you should be doing track? Straight line no competition but the skill level also might be a factor on the curves, S1000 riders (incl. me) are probably down a notch 😅
Edit...I actually had the opportunity to ride one this summer...it feels good..rides well... comfortable..I really appreciate the rear sets being forward... the seating position was well designed and very comfortable no argument there..power was good but de-tuned too much from the original powerplant this bike is based on... smooth and restricted.. tame/ predictable.. just my honest opinion..although I liked it not enough power...it's just not for me.
This bike isn’t intended to compete with a gsxr. They do not/will not have the top end speeds of the full fairing version. They are geared differently and the power comes on at lower speeds. It’s a totally different ride than a super sport. If it’s dead on straight line speed you’re after then stick with the GSXR.
Not worth it for 10hp to spend 600 dollars with a fully exhaust system + air filter 90 dollars + stage 1 300-400 dollars... 1090 dollars for 10hp... Sorry but NO.
@@Big1_ So you change the sprockets to get more torque at the wheel at lower RPM. Trouble with that, this machine already runs way too frantic in 6th gear and that's going to get worse. 1st gear is way too tall, and 2nd to 6th are all mashed close together. What about the restrictions? Who pays for 150 horsepower and the environmentalists nannies slap their wrist and say, nah-nah-nahhhh! Every new Japanese bike has ridiculous restrictions in the ECU, designed to do nothing but please the regulators because they have nothing but a sum negative to actual owners.
It isn't all about power either. A big part of it is driveability. It is going to go faster, rev higher, throttle will be smoother, powerband is smoother, it isn't lean anymore, ect. It will definitely feel more powerful and faster than stock and make riding it much better. Running lean is not good at all. They do it for emissions. Euro 5 crap.
I got this bike in 2022 (european version). Got a similar air filter and a full exhaust from black widow and wen to reflash it to a local shop near me. Even the guy was impressed by the graph on this bike, so smooth an linear. Went from stock 149HP 118NM to 169HP 124NM. Spectacular performance from the engine tbh
Assuming that's crank #s
@@lifewithmike1883 nope, at the wheel in a dyno. maybe our differences in measure in Europe and United States, (assuming you are from there) add more difference. In my case it's been a couple of months and the thing seems to go airborn in any moment haha
Tú ratilla, a ver si contestas los mensajes que te he dejado en los vídeos. Enseña esa gráfica porque es imposible que le saques 20CV (HP...)
Nice video mate. If the owner rides the bike under 6000rpm most of the time would it be expected to use less fuel after the tune considering it was running Rich before?
@donnyazoff980 it all depends on driving habits all in all! If you are cruising then it should pick up a decent bit of mpg but hammering on the throttle then nah 😅
OK, this is the first video for my bike that has actually convinced me that I can gain more power. Like your presentation, no overdramatic yelling or yammienoob BS, just straight talk, data and results. Well done 👍
I appreciate that 🙏 we are trying to cut thru the bs and give real, raw results 💪 thank you for the compliment 🙌
H@@provenpowercyclesHello just a question about getting this bikes ecu flashed in the same way. So can I just send you my ecu and have you put the same tune on it and buy the same mods. I had a tuner send a pre flashed ecu for my crf 300l and that worked really well. I don't have the bike but im thinking of getting one and selling my old k8 750 for the riding position .
I have to say, I liked your attitude with your introduction on this video. Very unlike some other motorcycle tuners that feel they are the God's Gift to motorcyclists. Excellent outcome and safe increase to the performance of that GSXS. Thanks for the good video. This one I actually enjoyed watching, without having to cringe every time you spoke. It is appreciated.
@@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 we appreciate the good words 🙏 we will keep producing good, quality content. 👌
I have great respect for your work. I have the same motorcycle. 150 horsepower is really enough.Suzuki's engine blocks are very torquey and feel lively. Too much power for a naked motorcycle is a bit pointless.
Nice job... I have a 23 with full Yoshi and high flow filter, Chris Moore got 149 out of mine... Basically the same for intensive purposes. It makes sense as this motor made 165 in the gsxr back in the day... Take out the euro 5 and there ya go... I love this bike and for the price nothing can touch it!!!
Isn’t 150 hp was what is advertised for this bke?
@@MotoLopez1kthese bikes are very restricted they come 150 at the crank but with a good tuned exhaust and air filter you can get close to 1:50 at the wheel
Intensive purposes 😂😂😂
I have a full exhaust on mine. Went from 135-149. The bike went from really fast to horrifying at high rpm’s lol
Did your mph get better or worse?
Hoping to get mine done by you guys once I get everything for it 👊💯💨
Man you did an awesome job on the dyno with tuning this gsx-s1000👍🏻👍🏻 I used to have a 2016 gsx-s 1000 and loved it so much but don’t have it anymore…I plan on getting the new one and I will definitely bring it to you guys to tune for sure because you do a great job of taken care of not beating on the bike for a little adjustment to the computer, a lot of respect for you..plus I live in Florida in the Orlando area so I will bring my bike to you when I get it👍🏻
Awesome man! We appreciate the good words! Let us know whenever you're ready and we will help you out! 💪💪
The updated model runs smaller TB's, milder cams. Top power is down about 8-10 hp, and 4-5 ft-lb. Suzuki claimed it's for better midrange, but that's "marketing speak" for "we actually can't pass Euro5 with the old setup, so we are forced to do this."
@@exothermal.sprocket seems like they did that to a lot of their bikes as well as others. And it's getting ridiculous 🙄
@@provenpowercycles That's nothing compared to what the EPA is capable of, until Trump stopped the ridiculous regulatory overreaches a few years back.
@@exothermal.sprocket bow to your orange savior.
In 2018 I got a 2017 S-1000 phantom and unfortunately it really did not like being modified. Had constant FI light issues, throttle response issues etc and even took it to be mapped in the hopes of it solving the issue. The bike refused to even map. Eventually I just sold it. Miss that bike every day lol
I would love to get my '23 flashed. I still have stock headers though.
I like mine "as is" Interesting video.👍🏼
I saw the mpg at 32.9 and thought wtf. Then I remembered the thing the US does smaller is gallons.
This is a heavily restricted bike - due to the regulatory requirement by the Japanese DTO and national transportation insurance mandate (same goes for MT-10 and CB 1000R as well). If you want to fully blow it, flash ECU (Yahagihara Custom has ECU from hell and back), and Yoshimura outfit, you should get about 20 more horses...or even more depending on your set up.
Looking to get my 2020 Katana tuned soon. Not really looking to change the whole exhaust but remove the air restrictor and get rid of the timing retardation on lower gears.
Yeah we have done a flash and got great feedback so far 👍
Is the restrictions same with 1000GT?
Hi, where to start tuning? Do I need to find specialist or is there enough information on the internet?
Do you reckon I could try to DIY tune a bike or I will mess it up?
What would be your 1st 2nd 3rd choice in a full exhaust system
Really enjoy the content on this channel 👌👌
It all depends on the bike and what your targets are 💪 yoshi, m4 are great for budget friendly exhausts. Brocks, akrapovic and a couple others are great all around but expensive. SC project, AR are also great but hard to find full systems for most bikes.
Who knows if the M4 header design is actually that good. Brock's Performance makes header systems for certain models and they usually run a much larger than OEM I.D. for better flow. Exhaust companies have limited R&D depending on what model they are selling for. That means not ever single model is going to have optimal flow.
This M4 muffler is obnoxious. So little baffling.
Where can I buy a direct line?
Would the silencer give the bike a little more torque at lower rpm? I had a full yoshi system on my gsxs1000f, and even after a ecu flash, I feel like I lost significant torque in the lower ends
That just means the flash you received most likely isn't right for your bike. Did you get it dyno tuned or just a mail in flash? I see a lot of mail in flashes with horrible fuel / ignition maps attached to them.
@@provenpowercyclesit was a mail in flash to Dano’s performance in CA
@meesturkrabs1117 Danos is pretty good all in all. I would reach out to them and see what they can do to rectify the situation for you. That's the crappy part about mail in flashes. Without a datalogger or dyno, there is no real way to see what your bike is doing in order to fix it. The only thing they have to go off of is what you are telling them in regards to how the bike feels.
If you want us to redo it, we can, but again, I would reach out to Danos first and see what can be done to fix it 👍👍
@@provenpowercycles thanks for the info! I’ll talk to dano first
What gives torque is efficient intake velocities, efficient combustion. Not a gizmo shoved in the tail pipe.
Do use the same software as Chris at Moore Mafia
Yes. We both use woolich racing software
Did you block off the pair valve while tuning for correct afr readings?
Have you tested this bike on the road? Do you feel vibration on the pegs and handlebars? any suggestion on how to lessen that out? THANK YOU
We have not. The owner of the bike loves it and we have not heard of any issues such as that yet. Do you have bar ends ? Usually bar ends help with some vibrations when riding
had one last year not happy with vibrations,got b king instead.nice smooth.@@provenpowercycles
How much is the fuel consumption altered ??
Dude: Loving those janky-ass ratchet straps holding that MC down!
Whats gsxr cams swap into this bike?
What was the top speed of this machine?
We have a local shop in KY that has dyno and says they can tune my 2023 gsxr1000, but told I would need a power commander….?? After all the tuning videos I have never you guys talk about needing a power commander… should I stay from this shop???
yes. doesn't make sense.
was looking at one of these sit up righty gixers to replace my sport bike, tbh i was expecting more from the suzuki my old 08 gen 3 zx10 puts out 166 bhp with only a cat delete slip on k &n and flash. thanks for the vid.
That is the reason I hesitate to buy one. I was (and still) waiting to see if they released a new generation of the gsxs with more “power”.
If you spend most of your ride at 150+ then don't by any naked sportbike other than the m1000r or the Ducati. If you spend most of your time from 0-120 you won't be disappointed with this machine. I came of multiple liter bikes then a gen 3 Hayabusa and lovebthis bike. It's so much more usable power, they are geared different than regular sportbikes
Mainly what you would call canyon riding mike, some of the group got them big dukes and can get quite enthusiastic on the more Open stuff and I like to keep them honest. I cut the legs on the ten minus one on the front , Speedo healer, suspension job, There are times when mid 160s are required.@@lifewithmike1883
Not sure of the price difference earlier but 2024 Suzuki costs ~30% less and is plenty fun if you're not taking it to the track
If that's how you see it, throw in some handlebars and adjustable or lower pegs and call it a day.
The gsx-s750 is also restricted from the factory. I have a 2022 gsx-s750 and a 2023 gsx-s1000gt plus... both are restricted in the ECU. The s750 is limited to 9k in 4th, 5th, and 6th.
On mine I pulled the secondary throttlebody butterflies out. I have to down shift a gear or two if I want to pass someone. But other then that it all good. And no more 9k restriction.
Those throttle body valves provide torque, for as far that goes on a 4cyl. Dont remove them Id advice
@bhok1971 I removed them out of my GSX-S750. No issues. I get great fuel mileage. I'm not out racing anyone.
If I'm rumming around 60 mph or so and I hammer down on it. The bike is a little laggy. But if I drop down a gear or two,,, no issue.
Do what ever you want, but my bike has plenty of power and I get over 55mpg
@@redhytech difference in tank range after flapper delete?
@@hahdwerk596 my bike gets around 50 - 55 mpg in town and 60 mpg when im cruising out in the country. Before I removed the butterflies it would range between 40- 45 mpg at best.
I cant reccommend removing them, but if you choose to and you do t like the way it runs.... you can always reinstall them.
People like to mess with the exhausts. Warranty may void. It's not a cheap bike.
@acoitheadventurer1001 over here the dealers are pretty lenient with modifying the exhaust when dealing with warranties. 👍👍
Nice video, according to factory specifications, Suzuki has 150 horsepower, it is already known that Suzuki has more horsepower in practice, but I don't see it here!!!
Any way great video
Be safe & God bless
Factory specifications are always using the the crankshaft Nmbrs To promote. These are rear wheel Nmbrs.A
Suzuki uses crank horsepower. So now it has 150 rear wheel horsepower. The crank horsepower is probably more like 170ish hp now.
God I love my MT10!
Both great bikes, GSX is almost $2,800 cheaper (20%)
Yup and not very far behind at all.
@@vyomparmar9261yep and $2800 will get you a lot of comfort/performance mods if you want em. Not to mention that if you look around you can find em gently l used at the sub $8500 mark. Thats a lot of bike for the money.
Untuk ergonomi mungkin krna abangnya yg terlalu tinggi, soalnya gsx ini cocok sama pengendara berpostur pendek, CMIIW
Nice work..im thinking about buying one..but....the problem is I actually own a 2006 gsxr1000..the original bike this motor was copied from and on Sunday morning in Socal I've come across the gsx-s1000 on multiple occasions and my Gixxer just absolutely devastated every one of these bikes..im talking about..uhhh ..see ya...bye...so even tho the comfort is appealing the bike is slow in my honest real world observation...so im doing research to see if there's hope to make it move like it should... what about buying one and just pulling the motor and installing a 05/06 Gixxer motor..🤔
Man if 150hp on street / back roads isn't enough for you may be you should be doing track?
Straight line no competition but the skill level also might be a factor on the curves, S1000 riders (incl. me) are probably down a notch 😅
@@vyomparmar9261 exactly. Not to mention all the euro5 crap slowing shit down. This isn't a crotch rocket. This is a naked streetbike.
Nobody is mentioning the effect of this tune and the cheap suspension it has nor talking about how it s affecting mpg.
Edit...I actually had the opportunity to ride one this summer...it feels good..rides well... comfortable..I really appreciate the rear sets being forward... the seating position was well designed and very comfortable no argument there..power was good but de-tuned too much from the original powerplant this bike is based on... smooth and restricted.. tame/ predictable.. just my honest opinion..although I liked it not enough power...it's just not for me.
This bike isn’t intended to compete with a gsxr. They do not/will not have the top end speeds of the full fairing version. They are geared differently and the power comes on at lower speeds. It’s a totally different ride than a super sport. If it’s dead on straight line speed you’re after then stick with the GSXR.
Not worth it for 10hp to spend 600 dollars with a fully exhaust system + air filter 90 dollars + stage 1 300-400 dollars... 1090 dollars for 10hp... Sorry but NO.
So what would you suggest is worth the money?
@@exothermal.sprocket Stock, and if you want feel more power/acceleration, change the rear sprockets.
@@Big1_ So you change the sprockets to get more torque at the wheel at lower RPM. Trouble with that, this machine already runs way too frantic in 6th gear and that's going to get worse. 1st gear is way too tall, and 2nd to 6th are all mashed close together.
What about the restrictions? Who pays for 150 horsepower and the environmentalists nannies slap their wrist and say, nah-nah-nahhhh! Every new Japanese bike has ridiculous restrictions in the ECU, designed to do nothing but please the regulators because they have nothing but a sum negative to actual owners.
Good thing it’s not your money
It isn't all about power either. A big part of it is driveability. It is going to go faster, rev higher, throttle will be smoother, powerband is smoother, it isn't lean anymore, ect. It will definitely feel more powerful and faster than stock and make riding it much better. Running lean is not good at all. They do it for emissions. Euro 5 crap.
170 hp 😃
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Who ever drove naked bike knows what problem is ...Morre power iss nothing ..
Yes, we agree. It gets to a point where it's too much for street applications.
Why do some people say this bike has 150hp????? And some bmw or Ducati owners love saying they have 210 plus
With a full exhaust and tune they make 150 to the wheels.
hello im also mechanic of Super bike can i get your Whatsapp number?