GSX-S 1000's Battle it out on the Dyno with Unrestricted Flashed ECU - GSXS 1000
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Two friends brought in their Suzuki GSX-S 1000's into Moore Mafia headquarters to battle it out with their versions of the best exhaust and ECU Flash. Which one do you think sounds better???
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Chris thanks for describing and showing us what you do inside the ECU, there are a lot of tuners that keep that stuff secret. Got my first mail in flash from you about a month ago and you have a customer for life. Very happy with the results and quick turnaround!
Edit: Chris I think it would be very interesting if you could do a video on your story, how you got into bikes, racing, the ups, the downs, to where you are now.
Old dude here…the Yosh sounds great!
Long time Moore Mafia fan just snagged a 2022 GSXS1000. Its pretty nice.
Im a west coast rider.. don't be surprised to have my bike show up at your place someday...you are the best...and thank you for sharing your knowledge with us...
Love my 16! Full exhaust w/ flash & steering damper and it completely changes the bike.
What steering damper did you go with? Now that Moore Mafia built my Gixxus, time to start on the suspension. 🤙🏽
Prefer the sound of the Arrow/Yoshi bike and prefer its numbers too !
Good looking too love the carbon fiber and shape
Those K5 based Suzukis sound so good!
I had the 2018 gsxs1000f in the UK. My top speed was maxed at 159mph. So getting 170+ is amazing for this bike.
These sport tourers like this and the Ninja 1000SX are limited by gearing and a governor. The 1000SX with exhaust/tune and longer gearing can hit 170 as well. Personally a big fan of these sportier sport tourers compared to a lot of the modern tourers which are basically ADV bikes with cast 17’s (looking at you Versys). I like having a little forward lean, and these style bikes feel a little better in a corner.
How could anyone live with that M4 system? And the pops and bangs. Crazy! Great video though. Love it.
Been waiting for this.. sending in my ecu this summer. GSXS-1000Z
I’m 12k miles in on my 2021 ZX6R tuned by MooreMafia and the bike is running amazing. Pulls so hard and sounds so good, great job once again Chris.
maannnnnnnn my bike really cool to had the BOSS Mr MOORE online today, can't wait to see how my bike works when i get back my ecu from you guys, great job MOORE MAFIA
Those b4 & after top speed runs 🏃♂️ 👍🏽👍🏾.. Great addition to the vid.
Bigger not always is better, you can put giant diameger headers, but if the head and valves cant breath more air, the result is less hp.
I have the 2018 1000F model and would love to have this done to my bike
great things done .. the constant pops sound annoying imo, for once or twice its ok but constantly being there would drive me nuts, dont need the attention either ..
I'm running the M4 w/MM flash tune on my 18 s1000.. absolute beast mode. If your on the fence don't hesitate.
Thanks again Chris 🤙
How long did it take for you to get the ecu back?
@@JordanMac79 5 days total from the time I sent it till it got back.
Nice Video on the Comparison, I always wanted to Know if there was a Way to See what Exhaust Setup was Better, If only there was a Way to Compare on 1 bike with 6 different exhaust on the same tune. That would be good to See.
Scotland here! So as a non essential mode of transport its 6 month riding season and 6 month off the road tucked away in garage give or take a few random decent riding days ..
I have the gsxs1000gt+ at present with a sprint filter and the healtech bypass plug to keep servo fully open but not that much of a difference from stock actually!! But suppose it is ready for a header swap..... Pops and burbles for me every day of the week as i feel the bike has an identity crisis when revved hard.... Its induction gnarl on the upper rev range is trying to overcome the sound of an industrial sewing machine.
My main reason for tuning is for a bit better midrange if possible but mainly for a deeper sound and burble with a couple of pops. Also smoothing out some of the mid range vibrations would be a bonus for my numb gonads
So i plan arrow headers as a decent enough budget system that still has the balancing pipes and to allow cat removal for the pops and burbles.
I like the stock tail pipe and it still has a staggered straight through so is very minimally different from any other straight tail pipe ( exept one with a db killer helpfull to tone it down a wee bit if going on a long weekend tour or something).
And the stock exhaust hopefully still has the correct angle to stop my right hand side plasic hard case from melting.
Further to this, whilst fidgeting for things to do in the off season , instead of the marble mod i could probably fashion a remote shut off valve to enable or disable the pair valve on the fly to turn on/off the pops and bangs?
At this time I would probably be sending my ecu from UK to moore mafia with my requirements and trusting the bench flash / rather than the dyno flash, to be pretty much spot on to mainly bring my a/f ratio into a safer figure to help with long term lean ( hotter) running back to a safer range.
Hey does this sound sensible or have i missed the mark somewhere??
Bikes in for warranty getting valve clearances done when its back its fair game. ...coming to end of this season so be off the road soon for enhancement.
Edit: just to add on our roads , im not all that bothered about top end speed or horsepower. The midrange pull is where i would benefit in everyday use.
Hey I know probably not as cool as sending to Moore Mafia but check P3 tuning in the UK, have a mail in flash for your bike I believe. Probably save you a lot in shipping
@Scates yo man thanks for the input bro ... I ended up fitting cs racing full system at end of season . Got a few months to fashion a mechanical or electrical pair system on/off. I have healtech servo delete .. last on the to do list is ....... The tune ( have a pretty local dyno tuner in livingstone) .. just in off season mode will quickly get back in the zone to get it set up for season 2025. And yeah americas export taxes getting silly
These videos are great. It would be even better and a good selling point if you recorded the owner's reaction after they went for a quick rip up the street. The Wow factor :)
I have the same identical bike 2018 Suzuki GSXs 1000f M4 exhaust and headers but I definitely need that ECU flash I will settle for 170 mph considering this being my first bike 😎
adding a rider and wind resistace will see that theoretical top spped drop dramaticaly... !! and you really wouldn't enjoy 170 on a naked with budget suspension!
@@ianmurray3820 that does make sense 💯
That Yoshi gave a lovely smooth noise!
Love the insight of tuning. I opted for no pops on my cbr. Gave me a headache very quickly. Pair valve delete much prefered. Dont mind the cracks on up/ down shift but constantly i feed abit much.
I love the noise!!!!! M4 baby!!!!!!
Been running into these S bikes. Great upgrades 🤘
LOOOOOve mine!
@@cdnbcn6164 my Street fighter would woop yours. Don't believe come 🏁race me chump✌🤯🚀🤔🔥👊💯🤪
That Arrow and Yosh combo sounds supreme. Good job on the install. Out of 3 brands would you say that Arrow, Akro, or Yosh has the best fit and finish? Can you offer me your opinion on Vandemon? Thanks!
This gives me hope for the new sport touring model they just came out with.
Wish you were closer. Have a 2018 GSXS F and going to put CS Racing exhaust on it have it tuned. Have to find someone local. Great video!
Once you get yours tuned and on the dyno can you post your numbers on here? Was thinking of the cs exhaust but wanted to see some numbers to see if it’s worth it
@@TheTyrone1981 I believe Moore Mafia has a video of the gsxs1000 with that exhaust getting tuned. Search their UA-cam page.
@@brandandillon1517 thanks I appreciate it. Yea I found it. Doesn’t seem
To perform as well as some of the other big name exhaust companies but it’s all good. Still made decent power and looks way better than the others in my opinion
Mechanics never heard of gloves. Only issue with doing a dyno is the head has to cool before removing bolts. Heat causes metal to expand cold causes it to retract to keep temp. Threads don’t like being super tight.
noise is good! i will be sending my ecu to you!
I watch all of your videos. Got a gsxs 1k also. Live n Columbia SC. Already did CS full exhaust just need your magic touch on flashing my ECU. Was going to mail but think imma just drive to you and drop it off. Remember name Mcclinton 👍
Love those bikes ,great video
Have you ever done the ecu on a ducati monster 1200r, I am led to believe as standard they have 160bhp.
I prefer the bang option, unfortunately I am in England or I would be getting mine done by you
You know I am down with the M4 Supa
Awesome Man!!! Love it
COOL VIDEO! I HAVE A HINDLE EXHAUST ON MY F MODEL (FLASHED/TUNED) AND IT SOUNDS INSANE!!!
Got video or dyno graphs or anything? Post on gsxs1000 forum?
@@Stclairm1 Yes its here on UA-cam. Search "Hindle exhaust gsx-s1000" and you will see a video of me out front of our dealership doing a walk around etc.
@@Stclairm1 Here u go... ua-cam.com/video/ASlEhbQxzus/v-deo.html
Who won on the street competition between these two. I own a GSXs 1000. Sending the ECU down on Tuesday.
Ive been trying to decide what exhaust for mine. Im definitely going with the M4
Put mine on after breakin...LOVE IT!
Go with Hindle!
M4 baby!!
@@rickspicsonline need to see some Hindle results and actual header design.
Biggest fan Powamoto is in the house so I brought all these thumbs ups for ya algorithms 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥
I really like this 2022 HAYABUSA And the contest of the your UA-cam channel is very nice the content wont get any other UA-cam channels i am really a greate lover of the 2022 hayabusha it is my bream bike
Love the M4 exhaust but I am a little biased as that is what I'm running on my S1000...those gains seem to be a little low for the M4 but that may be due to the tire also. When I had mine tuned it woke the bike up tremendously and turned it into a beast.
hi Chris! I have a gsx1000 s 2020. Best Regards from Spain!
Chris I love your show the videos are great, I have the 2016 gsx S-1000f with 5400 miles what does the set up cost. From the headers with exhaust systems M4 and the ECU system.
Nice video. Seems like a little fuel spraying would be safer for the engine, keep it "wet". Dang yall backed up out the door with bikes. I'm still bringing my 14 down. Let someone borrow my trailer and haven't got it back
Unpopular opinion but I prefer the F over the S
Same… but I mean…I own one 🤣
The new GT is nt favorite so far.
Me too
Looks like Chris is right, he can't get nearly the hp out of the new gsx-s as he can these old(er) models. He suggested cans might be smaller, etc. Solid bikes but I'll take my mt10 any day.
@@kevinlove3025 Same, Same . . . . Every other fairing out there has that robot transformer mug . . . unique and different than the rest equates to Cool !!
Sooo much knowledge and experience in these vids!! I learn something new every time. I personally like when my bike doesn’t have that back fire noise like that. Makes me feel like something’s wrong. One or two is nice but that much is not for me. Keep up the vids!!!
My mechanic friend tries to minimise backfiring when he does tuning spreadsheets .
Hope you can do the new 2022 gsxs-1000 Unrestricted Flash soon :D
I have a GSXS1000 with a yoshimia muff it sounds like the stock muff, if you just pull the muff its not much louder, do you guys sell the box delete pipe !
Does a functioning pair valve affect the accuracy of the air fuel ratio when tuning?
if I get a m4 full exhaust for my 2024 GSXS 1000 can I mail in my ECU for a tune?
Got a 2019 Katana, same engine same configuration as the gsxs, I'm concerned if my mpg will suffer after tuning, since it's a 12L tank on the Kat
my range is about 120miles/tank now, any lower it'll be ridding the bike 😅
Awesome video
Big gains ❤ what you do.
these bikes got the same engine orginal?
I had your tune on my 17 FZ10. I sold it to order a 22 GSX-S1000GT. Let me know when you have a tune or if I can bring it to you. I should have it in a week or so.
Are you changing the gears without using the clutch? Does the bike have a quick shifter?
So i have 16gsxs1000f and all i would need to do is mail you ecu and youd be able to flash without fuel tuning? or since you have done similar in past will fuel tuning for others be same for mine?
I have a 2012 gsxr 750 and was thinking about doing the cat delete but I don't have a ECU flash or tune so will I have any issues or check engine light on also have a m4 slip on exhaust
No fi light because of it, but you'll be giving up 5-7hp and the drivability sucks before the flash.
@@TEAMWRIGHTEOUS I'm not to worried about giving up 5-7hp just really want to open it up and let it breathe better so in the end I'll give up that hp for being restricted with having the cat removed from the bike and really just didn't want the fi light on
Love the videos! Can't wait to see a 2022 Hayabusa get unlocked!
Where you located ?? I am looking for ecu flash for my 2022
I was just considering buying one of these. I’m older and don’t need cutting edge horsepower of the GSXR . Corn Pops for me. What was the torque differences ? Were they comparable to HP differences?
@@exothermal.sprocket so knowledgeable bro 👊
@@exothermal.sprocket that's cool 😎bro I'm glad to see you enthusiast about your whip my kinda dude 🤘🚀💯✊👍😇🙏💥
It will be August before I can get one. Seen 6 sport bikes riding this weekend, it’s a buzz to hear these guys rolling by . Amazing sound from a pack of high winding machines. Busa, Gsxr, R1’s
@@ecc5119 the sound is amazing I can help anyone who's looking for that braap brap with suggestions 🤟
I found one , going to look maybe ride it tomorrow
why would they put the coolant directly on top of the headers? defeats the purpose
No noise. It defeats the gun fire microphones.
Im just curious but will those arrows fit with a m4 go slipon ?. Its for a gsxr 600
Still waiting for a K7 SV1000S!
Those are huge with that bike. it's apparently underrated at 150 hp crank. This must be pulling around 165 or 170 crank now
173 hp is series GSXR 2005 power
@@panamatic9537 you're mistaken. The most legendary 750 is the 06/07 model. The 05/06 was with the 1000
Channel should be called Moore Dyno 🥱😴💤🛌
Does the ct titanium headers fit with a penta carbon
170 on my GSXS would be absolutely terrifying lol.
Great video! What horsepower do you normally see on a gen 4 ZX-10r with a full exhaust or cat delete?
What is your most favorite sounding bike sir ? You have tested so many bikes throughout your life but there must be something which you prefer over everything.
F puts down way more hp too, just check out Chris's pulls with the new bike🙄.
Is that all?
Put that 1000f nose cone on the naked would be so badass.
Hello Chris
My name is Joe I have a 2016 Suzuki Gsxs s 1000 and I would totally like you to remove some restrictions from my bike. Where are you located to hopefully take it up there and do your dials on it I just became a new subscriber
Welcome to the party. You can find out all the details on us and the ecu flashing on the website.
www.MooreMafia.com
I've been watching your videos and seeing how the stock ECU computer restricts a lot of the power of the bike. I'm thinking of someday looking into getting the full exhaust from the M4 . From what I saw on your video it sure make a lot of differences between the stock one.
@@TeamMooreMafia
I was thinking taking out the silencer from the stock exhaust. Do you recommend it off
What happened to mike he’s been gone for the past couple videos?
The gsxs are stupidly comfortable but it’s ultimately a rip off on the B king it’s funny to me how the Bkings failed to sell back in 08 when naked bikes weren’t popular but now everyone wants the naked bikes I highly doubt Suzuki would ever remake the kings but they would sell them now
Mike is no longer there. Don't know the story
Is your ecu flash also got for a bike in Europe at sea level??
Kawi power!!!
The GT sounds like it has a police magnet!
Take them racing 🏁
great content really enjoy
If it's to big then a turbo would help ? 😄
HELP ME PLEASE!? I'm buying the 2023 GSX-S1000 I've been looking for the Yoshi muffler/pipe in this video and can't find it even on the Yoshimura website??? I want this exact setup (Yoshi pipe with arrow headers) or this Yoshi pipe with yoshi stainless headers??? CAN ANYONE HELP? I'm in Australia. I want to put the system on then send my ECU into Moore Mafia. Also recommended air box and filter alterations for the above GSX-S1000 naked???????
Edit - can find a Yoshi muffler on their website for my model but it looks completely different to the one in this video...
so it looks like the older gsxs' are more powerful than the newer one.
arrow and yoshimura !!!!!!!!
Does the pops and flames not hurt the motor? 🤔
I wouldn’t think so because it’s all in the exhaust.
Man I really want to get my ecu flashes by you!!! I’m actually on vacation with the fam and I’m 1hr away from your shop but I didn’t bring my ecu 😭
Stupid
M4 sounds fantastic. Llllllllooooovvveee the backfiring
First!! Love your videos brother
I like the popping . Both bikes are very nice 👍.
Bring the noise cuz race bike
So now the mechanics have to go get the he bikes they gonna work on. 😂 I did all of that while running all departments. Lol
Good stuff
Great video's. Love the drag racing. You should try racing with turns. It last longer. 😆
I've done 164 on a naked EBR "indicated". Not a fun time, any thing over 145 155 is really not that fun on a naked.
I had152mph gps tested, like you 164 indicated on my naked hitting the rev limiter
@@alanpark7839 I wasn't even close to Rev. It has same gearing as the full faring that went 187.
Do those bikes have quick shifters
No, but I've heard of guys adding an aftermarket quick shifter.
The newer ones do
If there different years older ones less hp..by few.
Let's goo first baby
Why do you prefer Suzuki over any other brand? Just curious...
My second bike. I'm seriously thinking about going with a 636. Give me a full mod list that would go great for performance.
Or Gixxer 1000?
Again, can you give me a list of mods that is for performance based?
Thank you
More power, more reliable, more raw, better value
@@SkateAndReview thank you. 👍
Both are great bikes all depends on your personal preference on feeling really. Do you have a lot of experience riding?
@@R6marcus thank you for the reply.
I have a ninja 650 for my first bike I have almost 6k on it bought it brand new n April of 2021 never been dropped.