Twenty-five years ago, we were promised a final Burton film (although Schumacher would have directed it) that would have featured, among other things, one last appearance by Jack Nicholson as the Joker (in a dream sequence featuring other past villains). George Clooney would have starred, which would have been a major liability, but at least we'd have had the Batman saga coming full-circle after BATMAN & ROBIN took it down a road where it was never supposed to go. I'm left unfulfilled. The closest we've gotten to a direct sequel to BATMAN RETURNS was Sam Hamm's BATMAN '89 comics miniseries a few years ago, and that did NOT meet with my approval. All we got was a "realistic," politically charged crime drama that just happened to be set in Burton's Gotham - and it no longer even looked like Burton's Gotham, except for some pointless fanservice. I feel that the people who've been charged with upholding the "original" Batman legacy are no longer trying. Both BATMAN RETURNS and the '89 film left me with a number of questions, and I want them answered. I really wanted Kim Basinger, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Robert Wuhl to all come back. I wanted to see, for good and all, whether any sort of Robin or Nightwing figure ever made an appearance. I was even looking forward to the imminent arrival of Jack Napier's daughter (either Madonna or Courtney Love in the '90s, although now it would most likely have to be someone else); pitting Batman against the orphan HE created would be a poetic way to end everything, with history more or less repeating itself.
@@SeasideDetective2 Warner Brothers always makes the worst decisions. From hiring Zack Snyder to cancelling three Batman Beyond projects. What's wrong with Warner Brothers?
@@callmejacob3234I think part of what’s wrong with them, is the same thing that has been wrong with Paramount Studios forever when it comes to Star Trek: they don’t understand their properties nor why fans love it. It’s just a property to them. They just don’t get it.
I must see a Burtonized Dark Knight Returns with Keaton. One last ride. Flash wasn't awful, but Keaton's Batman deserves to be the star of the show one more time
A reworking of BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER would be ideal. Computerized cyborg technology would be the best way to resurrect Jack Nicholson's Joker. Whoever would be the vessel for Napier's consciousness could give one hell of a performance.
@@mitchell7309 he's still my favorite version. Returns may have been stuffed but I still liked his take. It was cool they did that Batman 89 comic but it lacked the Burton flare
I for one _truly_ enjoyed seeing Michael back in the cape-&-cowl (👏). The film _around_ him waxed and waned between good and flawed IMHO, but even though his third go-around was short, I could tell Michael was _still_ giving it his best even with the material and screen time he was given to work with; a testament to the kind of actor he is I feel.
Michael Keaton was on the Happy Sad Confused Podcast and the Host asked Keaton It's Sad we will Never see his Batman again and Keaton Responded ''Never Say Never'' So That to me Probably Means we might See Keaton in another Batman Movie Someday.
I was born in 1989, same year Keaton's 1st Batman came. I remember watching TV in 2000 and 2001 and they showed all 4 Batman movies between 1989-1997 quite a few times on TV.
He was really interesting because his world was so distinctly different from the one Flash came from but you could see how they overlapped. It was crazy to see him fighting kryptonians alongside Flash and SG. I thought the movie was totally full of surprises.
I think Keaton's Batman was taken out of his universe and placed into the altered DCEU. I think that whole spaghetti analogy was supposed to be that message that this is the same Michael Keaton Batman we saw back in 1992 but was just taken out of his world. Many didn't seem to get that distinction. The reason why younger Barry recognizes the Batmobile is because as the reality changes, so does its history and memories to fit this new reality. The same could've happened with George Clooney. Also Keaton's Batman did have a Robin. I didn't read Batman '89 but I'm assuming that at some point Marilyn Wayne's Robin probably did help with Batman since he was originally a car mechanic who was hired by Bruce Wayne and then eventually Robin left. Alfred later passed away and Batman was all alone with Gotham City becoming a better place and no longer needing him. That's how I interpreted the Flash movie.
@@atavious2491 I’m not sure. Because when Barry arrives in Batman 92’s universe there’s no Wonder Woman or Superman. But who knows if the universes all get scrambled any time someone alters time. I enjoyed the spaghetti scene. I enjoyed the whole movie. I think it’s totally underrated. The irony is that it actually ends perfectly. That Barry can never get back to the universe he came from but he gets to live out a hopefully satisfying existence working with Clooney’s Batman and Aquaman in the universe he’s in.
@@robfalgiano Now all that needs to happen is for Peacemaker to screw things even further for season 2 of his show and then we'll entirely be in the DCU! 😄🎉
@@atavious2491 Absolutely. Both Marvel and DCU have discovered what comic book writers figured out decades ago: time travel and alternate realities lead to infinite storytelling possibilities, ret-cons and complete do-overs. A sci-fi staple as well, though not in Star Wars interestingly. 🤷
What are you!? I'm Batman! 😏 Keton is The Bat! I always love how when he's playing Bruce His mind is somewhere else like thinking about what he has to do as Batman! 🤘🏾🫡
Michael Keaton IS Batman. To speak to a couple of your concerns. 1. On the note of “Batman would never assault a criminal in front of their kid”, he’s actually done that in the comics numerous times… AND in BTAS i.e. one of the reasons why Dick Grayson left. 2. “Why does he know so much about time travel?” Those theories discussed exist OUTSIDE of comic books, and best believe BATMAN would’ve read something about it.
I'm not so sure we've seen the last of him. The ending of Flash read as a clear reset with Keaton and Supergirl going back to whatever universe they were pulled from into Snyder land. I wouldn't be surprised if he's back for Batman Beyond especially with the monster opening of Beetlejuice 2. We shall see.
“Michael Keaton is Batman to me” I never saw the flash movie. Mainly cause I heard the bad reviews and didn’t want to risk it. Glad Keaton still got it.
As cool as it was. I can't believe they put the "you wanna get nuts" phase in. Yes I know it's from the 89' movie but when he said it in that film. It was just a spur of the moment.
If I made a “Batman Beyond” adaptation, it would be in Keaton’s universe. It would also borrow elements from “The Dark Knight Returns,” just with Terry in the cowl rather than Bruce. The “Jokerz” would be replaced with the “Mutants,” for example.
I liked the original idea they had of Michael Keaton's Batman returning in The Flash, Batgirl , Batman Beyond and from what I heard a possible live-action Crisis movie. Remember they even shot where Keaton was alive with Supergirl and possibly even Cavils Superman. Oh what might've been!
If i were in charge at Warners I would just greenlight a Batman Beyond film with Burton in the Director's seat, Johnny Depp, Willem Dafoe and Michelle Pfeiffer.
Before Batfleck and the scrapped plot for Flashpoint Keaton there was the New Batman Adventures where Robin quit when he saw Bruce roughing up a criminal right in front of his son. So yeah imo I agree it's weird, however given this batman was already shown to kill at times I'm not shocked by the idea he'd accidentally kill someone in front of their kid.
There's a deleted scene from The Flash that implied Keaton's Batman accdenitly killed a criminal in front of their child and he studied time-travel in order to stop himself from committing the act. Bruce ultimately had to accept that there was nothing he could to change the past and decided to retire. To add insult to injury Gotham's crime rate went down after he quit and the city become a safer place. I wish that scene had stayed because, apart from explaining how Bruce surprisingly knows so much about time-travel, this also explains more why Bruce the state he's in.Another nice about that scene is that Bruce becomes a parallel to Barry's journey in the story about having to let go the past, accepting that there's things that he change but still be able to have a life.
They gave the reason. Gotham is cleaned up, so he’s forced into not being Batman. Kind of similar to Bale at the start of TDKR when he’s looking for a reason to get back in the suit. Also totally agreed on the bad lighting and angling for him in the suit on screen, felt the exact same. Him having sculpted musculature armor in 89 made sense. It was based on Greco-Roman armor, also implied with his experimental armor collection in Wayne Manor, and in that film, he’s an urban myth and a creature of the night. It made sense the gradual evolution of organic musculature as a creature of urban legend to a more mechanized body armor Knight look. That’s also why I’m not a fan of the Schumacher and Snyder suits. I don’t picture Bruce Wayne sculpting muscles on his suit to the point of fetishization. It’s goofy looking. And very overtly homoeortic. I love the Flash modern Keaton bat suit. A few different tweaks here and there, may be a little more production budget and way better lighting and cinematography, and it could’ve been truly great. I like how it was basically an evolution and combination of 89 suit, Returns suit, and a dash of Forever Panther suit color blocking and Batman Begins.
The stupidity of not seeing a movie based on his personal life. Pretty much all my favorite actors make pathetic choices but I don't give af. I ain't there to chill with em
@@jakobsmith1432 Most of those actors aren’t pedophiles though. If I choose to not see a movie cause I don’t support a pedophile having a starring role then that is completely justified. Your point is irrelevant.
Birdman if I remember correctly was kinda bout him being pestered to come back as batman/Birdman it really good I think he runs thru time Square in his underwear lol
Great video. I really hoped that they were gonna go for Batman Beyond.....ah well. Nevermind. I also wanna see the cancelled Batgirl movie. Zaslav is a monster for getting rid of it for tax purposes (that, and Acme Incorporated). Please watch Birdman. One of Keaton's finest performances. Norton and Stone are also great in it.
Michael Keaton was a great Batman. But he ranks 4th on my list for all the live action Batmen. Here is my list. 1. Christan Bale 2. Ben Affleck 3. Robert Pattinson 4. Michael Keaton 5. Val Kilmer 6. Adam West 7. George Clooney
You got it completely wrong on the im batman line, it was forced and they had to try and write the line in, so even though Barry knew he was batman he acted shocked and "so you are batman" and he says yeah im batman, people wasn't angry about the delivery it was the forced line.
No. He wasn’t shocked, he was just in awe. Up until that point Ben Affleck was his Batman, and he just encountered some old athletic dude with a beard and stringy hair and talking about spaghetti. It was just a reinforcement, but also yes, a callback. You can’t have Michael Keaton as Batman in a movie 30 some years later and he doesn’t say it. That now iconic line of dialogue wasn’t even written in the 89 script, Michael Keaton created that ad-lib. You do understand that, correct? He invented the most famous and iconic line of dialogue for the character, ever. He has to say it. He just delivers it as a tired old man and it is a reaffirming confirmation for both Ezra Miller and the audience. It works on both levels. An example of forced and nonsensical callback dialogue painfully inserted into a movie where it doesn’t make sense would be the Get away from her you bitch from Alien Romulus
For me, Michael Keaton's return as Batman was just as epic and memorable as Tobey Maguire's return as Spidey in No Way Home was. The Flash may have been a mess of a movie, especially compared to No Way Home, but Keaton was still easily the highlight of it. It is a shame we won't see either the Batgirl movie or even Keaton's scene in Aquaman 2, but who knows what the future might bring. WB really should take advantage of Beetlejuice 2 by having Keaton and Tim Burton team up again for a Batman Beyond movie as each of their own follow-up project. After all, Batman 89 was their follow up to Beetlejuice 1, heh. I don't care if James Gunn isn't a fan of Keaton's Batman, he really shouldn't let his personal bias get in the way of what we fans all want. I'd certainly would rather see Keaton in a Beyond movie rather than this Brave and the Bold reboot movie they've got planned in spite of there ALREADY being a rebooted Batman film series going with Robert Pattinson. I get that the Brave and the Bold movie is supposed to be in the same continuity as the new Superman/DC movie universe, but they sure are going crazy with rebooting Bats lately. Sure would be nice if the WB execs would have the guts to go over James Gunn's head and order a Batman Beyond movie anyway in spite of what he wants to do. Don't mean to diss the guy, since the Guardians of the Galaxy movies were great, but he sure seems to have unpopular opinions for Batman.
Well for the people who actually wanted to see a version of Batman fuck up big time with going against his no kill rule, we got Kevin Conroy playing as a live action Bruce Wayne in the CW Crisis On Infinite Earths. As some may know, he openly admits that he went against his no kill rule and because of it, he ended up being permanently disabled thanks to Superman intervening.
So frustrating they wasted Keaton on the Flash and Blackgirl. A Batman Beyond movie with him would have been amazing to finish off a Burton Batman trilogy. Tie up loose ends from the first two. See Terry in live action finally.
If there's a Batman I can believe would make the mistake of killing a guy in front of his kid, it's Keaton's Batman. He's always struck me as the most unhinged Batman, especially when he was pissed off. Perhaps he didn't realize the kid was there, and when he did, that's when his conscience broke him.
I would’ve preferred the backstory of Batman killing a man in front of his son to Gotham is safe LOLZ. In Batman Forever they explore the idea of Batman killing and urges Robin not to walk his path because it won’t stop with Two Face. As Batman has ended the Joker and the Penguin.
It's a shame that WB will most likely never make a Batman Beyond with Keaton as Old Bruce Wayne, he's my favorite live action Batman, he was the only reason why I watched The Flash in the first place, he was the best part in that film and they killed him off 😑
I doubt "The Flash" is the last we will see of Keaton's Batman. A third Batman starring Keaton is still a possibility (especially after the success of 'Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice').
Somehow the long hair and beard looked both bad and fake, could have done without them, otherwise Keaton (and the reactivation of the Batcave scene) Is about the only worthwhile things from this film.
There wasn’t enough of Supergirl or quality of Supergirl to even make that claim. Michael Keaton was definitely the best part, and even though he’s a total weirdo, Ezra Miller actually gave a really good acting performance, and there was some quality heart to the film.
Here's the thing, though. BatKeaton AND Sasha Callé's Supergirl were ALWAYS intended by Andy to return at the end during the courthouse scene. There's proof that they shot this ending. Zaslav and James Gunn are the ones who pulled a Eric Bischoff misusing Bret Hart, by tacking on an outtake ending where Clooney appears. When that happened, I was done with DC anything. It's been run by a hypocrite and a fanboy of his OWN cast members. Sasha can't come back for Woman of Tomorrow, but Cena can for Peacemaker? That was it for me. Now, more than a year later, I'm all the better by not having new DC films in my headspace. The Flash was the last masterpiece, and I'm more than okay with that.
I really hated the manner in which they introduced him into the story. Making him and his world the result of time travel altering the DCeU and erasing it in the end. They erased both Affleck and Keaton in this movie. Why not make him be from a separate universe? Also disappointed that he doesn’t share a universe with Reeve nor Cage’s Superman
I actually liked the flash overall but it should have been more closer to the storyline they were using cause it barely felt like the flashpoint storyline in what we got and your u sited the misconception of Batman’s one rule the rule is actually no killing with a gun cause Batman has killed many times in the comics since the rule was established in the 40’s and it came about due to real world events like the st Valentine’s Day massacre test happened that caused the government to look at things like the violence in comics at the time and asked for it to be toned down so Batman stopped being a gun toting vigilante and the in universe explanation for him not using guns anymore was thst he was going to use the same type weapon test took the life of his own parents which started his rule no killing with a gun the straight up no killing rule never existed in the first place and Clooney even though isn’t my first choice for Batman wasn’t as bad as people make him out to be and Batman and robin does have its issues but trying a lay them all at Clooney’s feet for his portrayal of Batman isn’t accurate in my opinion cause there are other people who blame for the issue with Batman and Robin not just Clooney and this doesn’t mean that I’m defending him or the movie just to not make it all Clooney’s fault
" Batman doesn't kill..." hahahahahahahaha. Every big screen Batman kills. Every single one. And don't give me the Zack Snyder" Batman didn't kill them. The ( six thousand pounds of) crates that Batman ( intentionally) tipped over on them killed them..." bull$hit.
I only watched the Flash movie on Netflix for him. Hell, I skipped to when they arrive at Wayne Manor because the movie was just insufferable. I'm glad I got to watch his scenes, because he was by far the standout of that crap film. Michael Keaton is Batman to me. He's my no.1 live action Batman.
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We were robbed of a Batman Beyond film with Michael Keaton. I would trade the entire DCEU for that film.
Twenty-five years ago, we were promised a final Burton film (although Schumacher would have directed it) that would have featured, among other things, one last appearance by Jack Nicholson as the Joker (in a dream sequence featuring other past villains). George Clooney would have starred, which would have been a major liability, but at least we'd have had the Batman saga coming full-circle after BATMAN & ROBIN took it down a road where it was never supposed to go.
I'm left unfulfilled. The closest we've gotten to a direct sequel to BATMAN RETURNS was Sam Hamm's BATMAN '89 comics miniseries a few years ago, and that did NOT meet with my approval. All we got was a "realistic," politically charged crime drama that just happened to be set in Burton's Gotham - and it no longer even looked like Burton's Gotham, except for some pointless fanservice.
I feel that the people who've been charged with upholding the "original" Batman legacy are no longer trying. Both BATMAN RETURNS and the '89 film left me with a number of questions, and I want them answered. I really wanted Kim Basinger, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Robert Wuhl to all come back. I wanted to see, for good and all, whether any sort of Robin or Nightwing figure ever made an appearance. I was even looking forward to the imminent arrival of Jack Napier's daughter (either Madonna or Courtney Love in the '90s, although now it would most likely have to be someone else); pitting Batman against the orphan HE created would be a poetic way to end everything, with history more or less repeating itself.
@@SeasideDetective2 Warner Brothers always makes the worst decisions. From hiring Zack Snyder to cancelling three Batman Beyond projects. What's wrong with Warner Brothers?
@callmejacob3234 I pretty much agree with you. That would have been awesome.
@@callmejacob3234I think part of what’s wrong with them, is the same thing that has been wrong with Paramount Studios forever when it comes to Star Trek: they don’t understand their properties nor why fans love it. It’s just a property to them. They just don’t get it.
Micheal Keaton is Batman to me!
He was the best thing about the Flash movie.
And they killed him in the movie.
I must see a Burtonized Dark Knight Returns with Keaton. One last ride. Flash wasn't awful, but Keaton's Batman deserves to be the star of the show one more time
A reworking of BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER would be ideal. Computerized cyborg technology would be the best way to resurrect Jack Nicholson's Joker. Whoever would be the vessel for Napier's consciousness could give one hell of a performance.
@@SeasideDetective2 Or maybe a street gang that worships the Joker
call themselves " The Jokerz"
Yes!
@@Chrismw81 agreed, but Michael Keaton was only arguable co lead in his first movie and was a supporting character in the sequel
@@mitchell7309 he's still my favorite version. Returns may have been stuffed but I still liked his take. It was cool they did that Batman 89 comic but it lacked the Burton flare
I for one _truly_ enjoyed seeing Michael back in the cape-&-cowl (👏). The film _around_ him waxed and waned between good and flawed IMHO, but even though his third go-around was short, I could tell Michael was _still_ giving it his best even with the material and screen time he was given to work with; a testament to the kind of actor he is I feel.
“ Keatons’s Batman this time around lacked” ……. SAID NO BATMAN FAN EVERRRR… We were in tears of joy 🥹🥲… seeing him return and Kill it
Especially considering he totally outperforms Ben Affleck as the same character, in the same movie
Michael keaton batman all the way!!!!!!
Michael Keaton was on the Happy Sad Confused Podcast and the Host asked Keaton It's Sad we will Never see his Batman again and Keaton Responded ''Never Say Never'' So That to me Probably Means we might See Keaton in another Batman Movie Someday.
I was born in 1989, same year Keaton's 1st Batman came. I remember watching TV in 2000 and 2001 and they showed all 4 Batman movies between 1989-1997 quite a few times on TV.
Who would have ever believed after 31 years, he would return as Batman, try saying that to someone in '92 if you went back in time
Michael Keaton Returning to Batman was The Only reason I Watched The Flash Movie.
Pretty sure that's the only reason why the movie made any money, and the studio knew it
I think his Batman is spectacular
I wouldn't mind seeing another stand alone movie with his Batman just on more time
Michael Keaton is Batman to me !
Michael Keaton is Batman to me.
Great to have seen him as Batman again!
Michael Keaton is batman to me !!!!!!!
lets get nuts
I think his updated suit looks cool. He was the most interesting part of the film to me
He was really interesting because his world was so distinctly different from the one Flash came from but you could see how they overlapped. It was crazy to see him fighting kryptonians alongside Flash and SG. I thought the movie was totally full of surprises.
I think Keaton's Batman was taken out of his universe and placed into the altered DCEU. I think that whole spaghetti analogy was supposed to be that message that this is the same Michael Keaton Batman we saw back in 1992 but was just taken out of his world. Many didn't seem to get that distinction. The reason why younger Barry recognizes the Batmobile is because as the reality changes, so does its history and memories to fit this new reality. The same could've happened with George Clooney.
Also Keaton's Batman did have a Robin. I didn't read Batman '89 but I'm assuming that at some point Marilyn Wayne's Robin probably did help with Batman since he was originally a car mechanic who was hired by Bruce Wayne and then eventually Robin left. Alfred later passed away and Batman was all alone with Gotham City becoming a better place and no longer needing him. That's how I interpreted the Flash movie.
@@atavious2491 I’m not sure. Because when Barry arrives in Batman 92’s universe there’s no Wonder Woman or Superman. But who knows if the universes all get scrambled any time someone alters time. I enjoyed the spaghetti scene. I enjoyed the whole movie. I think it’s totally underrated. The irony is that it actually ends perfectly. That Barry can never get back to the universe he came from but he gets to live out a hopefully satisfying existence working with Clooney’s Batman and Aquaman in the universe he’s in.
@@robfalgiano Now all that needs to happen is for Peacemaker to screw things even further for season 2 of his show and then we'll entirely be in the DCU! 😄🎉
@@atavious2491 Absolutely. Both Marvel and DCU have discovered what comic book writers figured out decades ago: time travel and alternate realities lead to infinite storytelling possibilities, ret-cons and complete do-overs. A sci-fi staple as well, though not in Star Wars interestingly. 🤷
Michael Keaton is batman to me
was always impressed that the man would burn at least 1 entire redwood a day to keep that fire place blazing. thats some eff u money. also eff trees
What are you!? I'm Batman! 😏 Keton is The Bat! I always love how when he's playing Bruce His mind is somewhere else like thinking about what he has to do as Batman! 🤘🏾🫡
Michael Keaton IS Batman.
To speak to a couple of your concerns.
1. On the note of “Batman would never assault a criminal in front of their kid”, he’s actually done that in the comics numerous times… AND in BTAS i.e. one of the reasons why Dick Grayson left.
2. “Why does he know so much about time travel?” Those theories discussed exist OUTSIDE of comic books, and best believe BATMAN would’ve read something about it.
It's too bad that The Flash is the closest we'll get to a Batman Beyond movie with Michael Keaton.
Michael Keaton is Batman to me. Even if you don't make a video I strongly suggest you watch Birdman. It is brilliant.
Micheal Keaton as batman was the besg part of this film
I'm not so sure we've seen the last of him. The ending of Flash read as a clear reset with Keaton and Supergirl going back to whatever universe they were pulled from into Snyder land. I wouldn't be surprised if he's back for Batman Beyond especially with the monster opening of Beetlejuice 2. We shall see.
Fingers crossed.
“Michael Keaton is Batman to me” I never saw the flash movie. Mainly cause I heard the bad reviews and didn’t want to risk it. Glad Keaton still got it.
I only watched the Flash for Michael Keaton
"The Flash" is actually REALLY good... especially after Keaton rethurns!
Do yourself a favor, and watch it!
As cool as it was. I can't believe they put the "you wanna get nuts" phase in. Yes I know it's from the 89' movie but when he said it in that film. It was just a spur of the moment.
Michael Keaton is my favorite batman!
Michael Keaton is/was one of the best live action Batmen. He's definitely in my top 4, along with Ben Affleck, Christian Bale, and Adam West.
Give Keaton an animated film.
If I made a “Batman Beyond” adaptation, it would be in Keaton’s universe.
It would also borrow elements from “The Dark Knight Returns,” just with Terry in the cowl rather than Bruce. The “Jokerz” would be replaced with the “Mutants,” for example.
I liked the original idea they had of Michael Keaton's Batman returning in The Flash, Batgirl , Batman Beyond and from what I heard a possible live-action Crisis movie. Remember they even shot where Keaton was alive with Supergirl and possibly even Cavils Superman. Oh what might've been!
If i were in charge at Warners I would just greenlight a Batman Beyond film with Burton in the Director's seat, Johnny Depp, Willem Dafoe and Michelle Pfeiffer.
Before Batfleck and the scrapped plot for Flashpoint Keaton there was the New Batman Adventures where Robin quit when he saw Bruce roughing up a criminal right in front of his son.
So yeah imo I agree it's weird, however given this batman was already shown to kill at times I'm not shocked by the idea he'd accidentally kill someone in front of their kid.
Michael Keaton is Batman to me
He makes a better beetle juice than as a Batman
There's a deleted scene from The Flash that implied Keaton's Batman accdenitly killed a criminal in front of their child and he studied time-travel in order to stop himself from committing the act. Bruce ultimately had to accept that there was nothing he could to change the past and decided to retire. To add insult to injury Gotham's crime rate went down after he quit and the city become a safer place. I wish that scene had stayed because, apart from explaining how Bruce surprisingly knows so much about time-travel, this also explains more why Bruce the state he's in.Another nice about that scene is that Bruce becomes a parallel to Barry's journey in the story about having to let go the past, accepting that there's things that he change but still be able to have a life.
I wonder if Keaton’s Batman in the flash is connected to the rest of the Burtenverse Batman films or if it’s an alternate timeline of that character
They gave the reason. Gotham is cleaned up, so he’s forced into not being Batman. Kind of similar to Bale at the start of TDKR when he’s looking for a reason to get back in the suit. Also totally agreed on the bad lighting and angling for him in the suit on screen, felt the exact same. Him having sculpted musculature armor in 89 made sense. It was based on Greco-Roman armor, also implied with his experimental armor collection in Wayne Manor, and in that film, he’s an urban myth and a creature of the night. It made sense the gradual evolution of organic musculature as a creature of urban legend to a more mechanized body armor Knight look. That’s also why I’m not a fan of the Schumacher and Snyder suits. I don’t picture Bruce Wayne sculpting muscles on his suit to the point of fetishization. It’s goofy looking. And very overtly homoeortic. I love the Flash modern Keaton bat suit. A few different tweaks here and there, may be a little more production budget and way better lighting and cinematography, and it could’ve been truly great. I like how it was basically an evolution and combination of 89 suit, Returns suit, and a dash of Forever Panther suit color blocking and Batman Begins.
The Flash movie was doomed since Ezra Miller was casted as the Flash. Rarely does a celebrity destroy their public image as quickly as him.
And Jonathan Majors unfortunately and in the same year no less.
The stupidity of not seeing a movie based on his personal life. Pretty much all my favorite actors make pathetic choices but I don't give af. I ain't there to chill with em
@@jakobsmith1432 Most of those actors aren’t pedophiles though. If I choose to not see a movie cause I don’t support a pedophile having a starring role then that is completely justified. Your point is irrelevant.
And they refused to cut ties with him. People know that was a total joke, and a little Hollywood privilege.
Birdman if I remember correctly was kinda bout him being pestered to come back as batman/Birdman it really good I think he runs thru time Square in his underwear lol
DAMN!
Great video. I really hoped that they were gonna go for Batman Beyond.....ah well. Nevermind. I also wanna see the cancelled Batgirl movie. Zaslav is a monster for getting rid of it for tax purposes (that, and Acme Incorporated).
Please watch Birdman. One of Keaton's finest performances. Norton and Stone are also great in it.
People do love ❤️ Batman
We deserve a Batman Beyond keton movie warner.
Michael Keaton IS Batman! Val Kilmer was very good too
Michael Keaton was a great Batman. But he ranks 4th on my list for all the live action Batmen. Here is my list.
1. Christan Bale
2. Ben Affleck
3. Robert Pattinson
4. Michael Keaton
5. Val Kilmer
6. Adam West
7. George Clooney
Batman is Michael Keaton
Michael will always be my preferred Batman. Even now he’s the best choice.
Batman: You Wanna Get Nuts!
Miller: Challenge Acepted!
You should absolutely do Birdman.
You got it completely wrong on the im batman line, it was forced and they had to try and write the line in, so even though Barry knew he was batman he acted shocked and "so you are batman" and he says yeah im batman, people wasn't angry about the delivery it was the forced line.
Exactly.
No. He wasn’t shocked, he was just in awe. Up until that point Ben Affleck was his Batman, and he just encountered some old athletic dude with a beard and stringy hair and talking about spaghetti. It was just a reinforcement, but also yes, a callback. You can’t have Michael Keaton as Batman in a movie 30 some years later and he doesn’t say it. That now iconic line of dialogue wasn’t even written in the 89 script, Michael Keaton created that ad-lib. You do understand that, correct? He invented the most famous and iconic line of dialogue for the character, ever. He has to say it. He just delivers it as a tired old man and it is a reaffirming confirmation for both Ezra Miller and the audience. It works on both levels. An example of forced and nonsensical callback dialogue painfully inserted into a movie where it doesn’t make sense would be the Get away from her you bitch from Alien Romulus
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It might have been nice if we learned if he tried to make it work with Selina/ Michelle Pfiefer Catwoman. That might have been interesting.
For me, Michael Keaton's return as Batman was just as epic and memorable as Tobey Maguire's return as Spidey in No Way Home was. The Flash may have been a mess of a movie, especially compared to No Way Home, but Keaton was still easily the highlight of it. It is a shame we won't see either the Batgirl movie or even Keaton's scene in Aquaman 2, but who knows what the future might bring. WB really should take advantage of Beetlejuice 2 by having Keaton and Tim Burton team up again for a Batman Beyond movie as each of their own follow-up project. After all, Batman 89 was their follow up to Beetlejuice 1, heh.
I don't care if James Gunn isn't a fan of Keaton's Batman, he really shouldn't let his personal bias get in the way of what we fans all want. I'd certainly would rather see Keaton in a Beyond movie rather than this Brave and the Bold reboot movie they've got planned in spite of there ALREADY being a rebooted Batman film series going with Robert Pattinson. I get that the Brave and the Bold movie is supposed to be in the same continuity as the new Superman/DC movie universe, but they sure are going crazy with rebooting Bats lately. Sure would be nice if the WB execs would have the guts to go over James Gunn's head and order a Batman Beyond movie anyway in spite of what he wants to do. Don't mean to diss the guy, since the Guardians of the Galaxy movies were great, but he sure seems to have unpopular opinions for Batman.
Well for the people who actually wanted to see a version of Batman fuck up big time with going against his no kill rule, we got Kevin Conroy playing as a live action Bruce Wayne in the CW Crisis On Infinite Earths. As some may know, he openly admits that he went against his no kill rule and because of it, he ended up being permanently disabled thanks to Superman intervening.
You’re forgetting the time that Batman beat up one of Joker’s goons in front of his family in TNBA.
So frustrating they wasted Keaton on the Flash and Blackgirl. A Batman Beyond movie with him would have been amazing to finish off a Burton Batman trilogy. Tie up loose ends from the first two. See Terry in live action finally.
Black girl? F I almost agreed with you until the racism.
@@kevincruise3521 But she is black and she is a girl.
If there's a Batman I can believe would make the mistake of killing a guy in front of his kid, it's Keaton's Batman. He's always struck me as the most unhinged Batman, especially when he was pissed off. Perhaps he didn't realize the kid was there, and when he did, that's when his conscience broke him.
Please do Birdman, it’s an artistic masterpiece
I would’ve preferred the backstory of Batman killing a man in front of his son to Gotham is safe LOLZ.
In Batman Forever they explore the idea of Batman killing and urges Robin not to walk his path because it won’t stop with Two Face. As Batman has ended the Joker and the Penguin.
The Batman 89 comics are better than The Flash movie
They really shouldn't have bothered bring Keaton back. It felt nothing like tim burtons batman or universe
It's a shame that WB will most likely never make a Batman Beyond with Keaton as Old Bruce Wayne, he's my favorite live action Batman, he was the only reason why I watched The Flash in the first place, he was the best part in that film and they killed him off 😑
I doubt "The Flash" is the last we will see of Keaton's Batman. A third Batman starring Keaton is still a possibility (especially after the success of 'Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice').
I enjoyed it for what it was, blatant fan service obviously but that's why I only streamed and didn't actually pay to see😅
I enjoyed the flash movie, all the way through I thought it was good. So the cgi looked bad but hey we got Keaton as Batman again!
Flash was shockingly bad but wow those Batman fights good. Gave me much more respect for Keaton Bat
The Flash is a great movie.
Keaton was the only good thing about the Flash.
God now your audioquality is back to that basement sound again geez bee
@@Zomboii99 … I moved and my new recording space is empty and it echoes.
@@VI_V2 oh; congrats on new place - but fix the audio!
Go watch Birdman! You’ll love it.
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I am more critical of Ezra as Flash and the lack of Reverse Flash than Iam of Michael Keaton as Batman.
Do multiplicity
Where’s twisted metal part 2?
batman beyond with keaton will happen. it's a guaranteed 1 billion dollars.
Gotta happen soon, he’s 73 years old and it’s only a matter of time before he has to retire due to age.
He’s done playing Batman,that’s why him and that world died in the Flash
So he died a bunch of times, and then apparently got erased. Does this mean he never existed now?
Ben Affleck was the best batman to me
Somehow the long hair and beard looked both bad and fake, could have done without them, otherwise Keaton (and the reactivation of the Batcave scene) Is about the only worthwhile things from this film.
He and Supergirl were the Only Good Things about that Awful Flash Movie, 2023 truly was the Worst Year for the Scarlet Speedster
There wasn’t enough of Supergirl or quality of Supergirl to even make that claim. Michael Keaton was definitely the best part, and even though he’s a total weirdo, Ezra Miller actually gave a really good acting performance, and there was some quality heart to the film.
The Flash is a great movie.
@@ДимчоДимов-ж7е the Flash is the second or third best movie in all of the DCEU which is the most ironic part
Here's the thing, though. BatKeaton AND Sasha Callé's Supergirl were ALWAYS intended by Andy to return at the end during the courthouse scene. There's proof that they shot this ending. Zaslav and James Gunn are the ones who pulled a Eric Bischoff misusing Bret Hart, by tacking on an outtake ending where Clooney appears.
When that happened, I was done with DC anything. It's been run by a hypocrite and a fanboy of his OWN cast members. Sasha can't come back for Woman of Tomorrow, but Cena can for Peacemaker? That was it for me. Now, more than a year later, I'm all the better by not having new DC films in my headspace. The Flash was the last masterpiece, and I'm more than okay with that.
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I really hated the manner in which they introduced him into the story.
Making him and his world the result of time travel altering the DCeU and erasing it in the end. They erased both Affleck and Keaton in this movie.
Why not make him be from a separate universe?
Also disappointed that he doesn’t share a universe with Reeve nor Cage’s Superman
I actually liked the flash overall but it should have been more closer to the storyline they were using cause it barely felt like the flashpoint storyline in what we got and your u sited the misconception of Batman’s one rule the rule is actually no killing with a gun cause Batman has killed many times in the comics since the rule was established in the 40’s and it came about due to real world events like the st Valentine’s Day massacre test happened that caused the government to look at things like the violence in comics at the time and asked for it to be toned down so Batman stopped being a gun toting vigilante and the in universe explanation for him not using guns anymore was thst he was going to use the same type weapon test took the life of his own parents which started his rule no killing with a gun the straight up no killing rule never existed in the first place and Clooney even though isn’t my first choice for Batman wasn’t as bad as people make him out to be and Batman and robin does have its issues but trying a lay them all at Clooney’s feet for his portrayal of Batman isn’t accurate in my opinion cause there are other people who blame for the issue with Batman and Robin not just Clooney and this doesn’t mean that I’m defending him or the movie just to not make it all Clooney’s fault
Bruce Wayne isn't Batman. Michael Keaton is Batman.
You haven't seen BIRDMAN? Are you crazy???
I also think the cgi was kinda trash for Batman 1989 they did him and afflek dirty
" Batman doesn't kill..."
hahahahahahahaha.
Every big screen Batman kills.
Every
single
one.
And don't give me the Zack Snyder" Batman didn't kill them. The ( six thousand pounds of) crates that Batman ( intentionally) tipped over on them killed them..." bull$hit.
I only watched the Flash movie on Netflix for him. Hell, I skipped to when they arrive at Wayne Manor because the movie was just insufferable. I'm glad I got to watch his scenes, because he was by far the standout of that crap film.
Michael Keaton is Batman to me. He's my no.1 live action Batman.
The Flash is a great movie.
How do you know the film’s insufferable if you skipped to when he’s introduced lmfao
Michael Keaton is Batman to me !!
Michael Keaton is Batman to me.
Michael Keaton is Batman to me.