The Disappointing Batman Returns (1992)
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Following up Batman (1989) was always going to be tricky.
Making a Tim Burton Batman movie even more Tim Burton was, at the time, not the best course of action. With Michael Keaton back and Danny Devito as The Penguin, Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman it seemed like a sure thing.
And then the parents complaints rolled in.
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Danny DeVito spewing black blood from his mouth haunted my childood. 10/10 would recommend.
I saw both Batman films when I was under 10yo. The only image that bothered me at the time was the close-up on the dead reporter's grin in Batman '89.
Danny DeVito as Penguin was pitch perfect casting.
100% and Michelle Pfeiffer the best catwoman by far.
"Magnum dong"*
It was strange, repulsive, monstrous, cynical, mean, pessimistic... and not a single thing about it would I ever dream of changing. Easily the best Christmas movie about a man who dresses up as a giant bat.
It was the first film involving Batman dealing with the humanity he sees in the foes he fights, so... Yeah. A dark, twisted, gothic tone was called for TBH.
I might change the "DJ Scratching" Batman, but that's about it... I loved seeing Batman Returns when it came out!
batman TAS Is much better then this trainwreck!
Omg, Batman Returns is my favorite Christmas movie. I watch it every year.
@@btr3kI loved that!!
I will die on this hill: Batman Returns is one of the best Batman films we’ve ever gotten. Is it comic accurate? God no. Is it child friendly? HELL NO! (and I say that as a kid that watched it when i was 12). But its an excellent study of 3 weirdo loners trying to find their place in this absurd Gotham universe. The stuff between Selina and Bruce recognizing their traumatic need to hide behind masks is inspired. As a huge comic fan I get the idea that it’s not faithfully using the comic book mythos, but no comic book film was during this era. I still think this is an underrated gem of a superhero film.
Great defense, man. I thought most of the same stuff.
My favorite batman movie.
Agreed. It’s my favorite of all of them. I don’t think it’s too scary for kids, my brother was obsessed with that movie when he was 5 and was never scared. And I was 7 and not scared either. A little bit of fear is healthy for kids. Batman showed us that there is evil in this world but there are good people out there who will fight for justice
for me (11 when it was released), it was too dark all-around... the first film had the joker as the source of color and humor, to balance dark and brooding batman. returns (which implies that he left, that always puzzled me) featured three dark characters. it was, outwardly, all tragedy.
on the other hand, i disliked the neon-soaked follow-up... particularly jim carrey as the riddler, who i preferred as the more cerebral villain presented in the animated series (which is my favorite portrayal of batman and his world).
as for keeping to the comics, very few comic films to date are truly source-accurate. part of that is due to the history (around 80 years for golden age heroes) that is built up. they have to condense and cut a lot for captain america, batman, superman...
sin city, meanwhile, basically used the comics directly as storyboards. but, it has stand-alone stories.
Couldn’t agree more with this original post, and I’m right there with you on that hill.
This is my favorite Batman movie. The sets were fantastic, Penguin and Catwoman were awesome; & I love seeing Chip doing a Christopher Walken impression right in front of the guy.
Sorry, but nothing beats the first movie from 1989
The toy line was legendary!!!
The resulting parental outrage was memorably over the top and unnecessary!!!
that was a marketing ploy. Genius.
@@gregmize01look at you, Mr. Pretentious! Better hurry upstairs and tell your mom that was the smartest thing you said all year!! Better late than never, I guess.
Still want a movie-accurate Penguin in that scale, though.
I did like my machine gun toting penguin toy with the Jazz fins. Wasn't in the movie, but since when do Batman toys have to depict anything from the movies or cartoons?
@@itsagundam79 ...Jazz fins?
"The best Batmobile" Damn right it was. This was my first cinema experience, at 8 years old. It scared the hell outta me but loved every minute of it. Love this Batman movie which can be a Christmas movie too
I love the 1989 Batmobile and it’s probably the best. I do love the tumbler from the Nolan series though.
@@Peeps7468 the tumbler sucks
@@corymiller536 your comment sucks.
@@Peeps7468 it's true bro that shit doesn't look like a batmobile at all, it looks like an military tank
@@corymiller536 your last comment is good. I like the tank aesthetic. But I acknowledge it’s not in line with the comics. I can kind of agree that the tumbler isn’t really a Batmobile but it l just seems like a cool vehicle.
Definitely like it more now than I did back then. Grateful for its weird and dark aesthetic because it paved the way for Bruce Timm and Eric Radomski, who have both repeatedly stated that without it, Batman the Animated Series would either have looked very different or not existed at all.
I've always loved this one. It's got nothing to do with the comics but Burton's vision is so strong its still enjoyable anyway. Great performances from the cast, the "Does this mean we have to start fighting?" scene is one of my favorites ever and Gotham looks beautiful in the snow. Top it off with Danny Elfman's stunning score that manages to top the first film and you have a fantastic film.
Well put. Pfeiffer & Keaton sizzle, & that's not a descriptor I use lightly... or ever.
Even people who don't like the movie said that Michelle Pfeiffer worked perfectly as Catwoman.
I was 11 when it came out and I loved Batman Returns and still love it. Catwoman really awakened something in me.
My Dad was 11 at the same time as well and tells me how hard he defended this movie in the summer of 92
Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman is the reason I'm attracted to blondes and black leather and Thigh high boots.
The scene where she gives Max Shreck the electric kiss and fries him is my favorite movie kill ever.
Ditto on the Catwoman thing
tingly
Wow...I was 11 when this film came out too. I personally thought Batman '89 and Batman Forever were better films though
Its hardly disappointing its a bad ass Batman film. It did need more Batman in it though.
No Batman movie needs more Batman when the villains are this good!
@@paulieboy6644 and they were good no question about it
@@bombarde1701ayeah, but you have to understand that it was hated when it first came out in 1992. It wasn’t until recently when it started to get love and appreciation
@@nsasupporter7557 I loved it at the time as a kid and still love it now.
@@bombarde1701aok, but that still doesn’t change that it wasn’t liked by the general public when it first came out. People were outraged by it, it was the reason WB told Tim Burton to step down as director and why Joel Schumacher took over the next films
Great video as usual but what's going on with the focus? Is it a problem caused by the lights in the background interacting with an auto-focus? Because Dan's footage is the only part that looks out of focus.
It’s surprising THIS nearly killed the franchise.
I thought Batman and Robin did more damage….
I think it was because of the tone shift and whining parents who don't pay attention to things along with the blatant attempt to slander it and tear it down, mostly by again, parents, as well as religious nuts.
@@zeddwulfen7737 Definitely whinging parents and their scripted children more than anything else.
@@zeddwulfen7737 You may be underestimating how off-putting it was for those in the audience who wanted more of a Batman film and not so much just another Tim Burton vehicle. It isn't a straight-up bad film but it is very much just Tim Burton doing a Tim Burton movie. There are times when gets so silly that you wonder when it is going to turn into a musical with a massive dance routine sequence.
Don't get me wrong. There is a part of me that is very nostalgically attached to the movie but when I step back from that and just look at it for what it is, there is a lot that holds it back from the level that the prior film reached. A lot of that comes down to Burton doubling down on his specific style above all else.
@Maldracai Yeah, the target audience loved(s) this film. That's why Dan said it was before it's time, because now it's seen as a groundbreaking film that lead to a darker edge in corporate story telling eventually. You can't really understand unless you're old and can remember how tame TV & film was back then.
I loved both the Burton Batman films. I grew up with the movies going to see the stunt show and the ride. It was a good time to be a kid then I think.
Batman Returns was a great Tim Burton movie with all of his typical mood, atmosphere and trophes, which just happened to feature characters from Batman. And it was a brilliant dark Christmas fairytale.
I love Batman Returns. You will never see a film take these kind of liberties with an existing character and have it be this good.
Only because brands won’t let artists take chances anymore. This was a product of companies not taking their IPs seriously. Batman was a joke to most people before Burton.
"and have it be this good" is right. Movie houses take all kinds of liberties, but they're generally awful decisions.
@@dumbumbumbum8649 They let Snyder take even greater liberties with Superman.
The film was an excellent follow on to 1989 Batman. The problem was not the script, director or the cast. It was the greed of the suits at Warner Bros, who were wanting more fat bonuses off the hard work of others. Who in turn handed it over to others who really didn't know and gave us a Batman of the 1950/60s comics set in the 90s.
To me, "Batman Returns" is part of the same Pantheon of movies as "Dick Tracy" and "Rocketeer": entertaining and successful movies that were still considered failures because they couldn't surpass the impossible precedent set by the 1989 Batman.
Bumblebee Cumplepuff being unable to say 'penguin' is the best clip ever.
I think you mean Bendable Cornbread.
@@danbradshaw2223 You guys are talking about Benefit Cummerbund, right?
Just so happened to rewatch this last night with my older teens. They understood how weird Burton is and so it didn’t phase them much. I rather enjoyed it and found more humor 30 years later. The unrealistic survival of an abandoned baby and Kiel’s transformation to Catwoman was too much for me as a child. This time I saw more tried and true plot lines where the hero and villain run parallel but diverge on moral grounds. So much better than I remembered. But could have been tweaked into a great movie with a few changes.
Great video - although (and I hate to be that guy, but…) saying that Halle Berry’s “Catwoman” movie isn’t connected to the Tim Burton Bat-verse isn’t entirely true. The Halle Barry film very directly references the Michelle Pfeiffer version of the character, implying at least a loose continuity, if not a full-fledged spin-off.
As a 5 year old child who had this movie on VHS, I loved this movie, didnt scare or creep me out at all, Loved It, I use to paly this multiple times a week and play with my action figures
Me too accept being 2 years younger ...in 95 I had so many figures cars and watched this and 89 religiously...
Same. I was a bit older, but the original didn't scare me either.
I did wonder when we would get to Robin. My experience with Batman began watching reruns of the 1966 show, and then reading the comics. (I was reading at a fifth-grade level already in kindergarten.) I knew Batgirl wasn't a thing anymore, but had no idea why. (To find out why, read The Killing Joke and Suicide Squad #25.) My first comic was A Death in the Family, which was...traumatizing, to say the least. The guy at the comic shop did tell me that was a different Robin, and sold me some New Titans, which was what Teen Titans was going under at the time (apparently because most of them were adults now). Robin was actually a pretty big deal for DC in the late 80s. Death of one Robin, recounting the original's origin, and the origin of a third Robin. Oh, and the original Robin (Don't make me get into the fact that there were two Dick Graysons in the pre-Crisis timeline, please.) was leading one of their two most popular books, Teen Titans. (The other was Legion of Super-Heroes.) So, Robin was having a moment.
I loved Batman Returns. I was so disappointed when it received a 12 rating and I couldn't see it at the cinema. I still have the poster somewhere.
Your parents sucked then. I was watching horror films at 10 years old.
I can still remember coming out of the theater at 14 with my family and my Mom being SO MAD at this film.
I adore this movie. The only one that comes close for me is The Batman.
I loved Batman Returns. I was 14 when I saw it in the theater in 1992 and was so happy I was seeing it. I had missed Batman in 1989 because by the time my mom took me to see it, it wasn't showing anymore. After seeing Batman Returns I spent months buying everything I could find with Batman on it. I even had the poster of Catwoman standing in her window with the neon sign that says Hell Here behind her.
The only thing I remember liking about this movie is Selina and Bruce realizing who each other was and Selina(?) going, "Does this mean we need to fight?"
This was immediately my favorite Batman movie and has remained so to this day.
Not sure how this one did poorly, it's the 2nd best Batman next to both Batman staring Joker.
It's those next 2 movies that really made things worse.
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Batman Returns has DeVito, Pfeiffer, Walken and Keaton all doing a bang up job with an excellent script. The whole thing plays like a gothic nightmare/dream, what's not to love? And it's far more interesting than Batman 89' ever was - love them both, just saying.
@chevy-is-good-boy ......so wtf was Jack Nicholson, chopped liver ? I question if you have ever seen the first movie if you didn't think Jack was f*cling awesome ..... You Cant Handle the Truth 😎 !!!!!
Actually, Burton's Batman and Returns compliment eachother really nicely to be honest.
Crazy timing of this video. I JUST randomly watched Batman Returns today on a rainy afternoon in Dallas. Great insight
I owned this on VHS as a kid and honestly people's recollection of it being kid unfriendly is so strange to me. I loved it as a 6 year old, anything to get more batman in my life lol
I think the whole "kid unfriendly" thing came from talk shows and the like where kids (who had obviously been spoon fed what to say) claimed that it was too dark and it scared them. I can't remember the exact wording but a lot of what was said sounded too far fetched for a child to say and it was clearly the horrified and easily offended adults trying to get their way.
@@Maldracai Oh yeah I saw that! that kid was such a little snitch man. Clearly he'd been rehearsing his responses or had been coached to say those things
Still, could be worse! My nose could be gushing blood!
You can't say that a movie with the line "Saved by kitty litter." disappointed anyone!
HOW DARE YOU. And on Christmas too...
When I first saw Batman Returns in the theater back in '92, I was actually a little disappointed. But, it was more of a case that Batman '89 was so amazing, it would have been impossible to surpass. But Batman Returns grew on me pretty much immediately afterwards.
I actually watched this in the theater and I love it.
I grew up watching this movie all the time but honestly a large part of the appeal is nostalgia. The older scripts that were a more direct sequel to the original movie seemed like a stronger story.
After all these years at 37 years old im just now wondering How the hell were there penguins in gotham in the first place
The thing that was traumatising with Batman Returns was seeing the baby get thrown into a river during Christmas. It’s difficult not to feel sympathy towards the Penguin.
I think the baby eating a cat was worse.
@@lzrbckthe cat had it coming though… the baby not so much.
@@smeagle3295 the cat messed around and the baby found out
@@lzrbck I just realized the irony: He kills the family cat as a baby, then after being rejected by Catwoman he attempts to kill her, too. I just blew my own mind here.
It was considered disappointing?! Maybe kid me was too young to understand critics but I thought it was awesome...and it paved the way for batman the animated series
“Disappointing?” How dare you?!
YOU CHANGE THE TITLE OF THIS VIDEO, NOW!!!
It fascinates me how this movie was panned at the the time of its release, but has become considered the definitive Burton Batman by many fans.
I saw this opening night in the theater just after high school graduation. I remember not liking Batman 89 as much as everyone else, but I did love this one. Probably my favorite Batman movie.
I don't get how parents were surprised at the tone of this one after seeing how the first one went, Batman Returns felt like more of the same just turned up a tiny bit more.
As a kid I didn't notice anything too different apart from the variety in henchmen and the added creepiness of things but I liked it, didn't have nightmares about Penguin or ask my parents an awkward question about the dialogue and I liked the toys that were coming out, well at least Some of the toys \ figures that came out.
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To me, I was creeped out by Joker's buzzer, the toxic nerve gas, and his face disfigurement more than anything in Returns. It's like people being concerned over Tenple of doom when Raiders of the Lost Ark was also very violent.
Right? I mean clearly of the two movies the first one is much darker in tone and overall aesthetic. I reckon it was the child stealing and murdering intent that riled up the parents.
@@Maldracai yeah probably, plus wives using it as an excuse when really they just didn't like their husbands looking at Catwoman much less their kids.😄
@@deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 I didn't even consider that, you're probably right 🤣
I saw Batman Returns 3 times in the theatre. Once was by choice. The other 2 were because I was hanging out with people that hadn’t seen it yet so I tagged along.
Michael Keaton best real life comic book character.
The villain power plant in this movie sounds like the sort of thing you need for solar and wind power to be useful during night and calm days.
Like... I'm sure it's more evil than I'm remembering.... But it basically sounded like the big reveal was that it was actually a battery....
Not really. It was a great movie to me.
Damn straight
Same here
Exactly that’s how the 90’s animated series was a little based on
"To me" is always the operative word in these types of comments. It's also my favorite of the movies but that isn't really relevant to anything Dan talks about. Every time he does one of these videos its not out to say "X movie/ show is bad" it's talking about the business behind this stuf and how these pieces of media fail or have issues in those realms. The dark themes of this movie changed Batman forever, the complaints about the marketing to children directly led to stuff like Batman and Robin where all they aimed at were toys.
Sexy CatWoman Meow!
The Catwoman film references the previous "host" from Batman Return and a photo of her is seen so it is "canon". Keaton also shot scenes for Aquaman 2, then Affleck was used in reshoots and then both versions of Batman were Zaslaved out of the film. Oh WB.
I remember recording _The Bat, The Cat and The Penguin_ on a VHS tape when it aired. It was kind of a behind the scenes for the movie, and I remember watching it a lot. In fact, I have clearer memories of that watching special than I do of watching the actual movie.
Well that's certainly something I haven't thought about in decades. I remember that being played constantly on HBO (I think) in the runup to the release date.
At the end of The Long Halloween, there's an exchange between Batman and Jim Gordon. They brought down the Falcone crime Family, but one of the casualties of that war was the loss of their friend and ally, Harvey Dent. And so Batman is left to wonder what they had accomplished could've ever justified the consequences of what they had suffered. Gordon replies “If you're asking me, did the good guys win? Yes, the good guys won, Batman. But I won't know if it was worth it for a very long time.”
Although Tim Burton had publicly stated he doesn't read a lot of comics, I feel this story and this moment alone would have resonated with him. Because his Batman movie was nothing more than a major victory in many respects. Not only did he turned the way of changing audiences’ perspective on Batman away from the campy 60s show, he didn't just cast a shadow over the comic book movie genre, so large we're still living in it, (to which I feel many are getting sick of), he had helped changed the landscape of blockbuster filmmaking. Forever. And was in his late 20s when he did it. So for this kid who felt perfectly at home as an esoteric outsider making quirky little films with little money, this sort of mainstream attention he was suddenly experiencing was a little uncomfortable. At best he appeared a little ambivalent about Batman’s success. But at worst, he seemed extremely terrified of it. Which might've been part of the reason why Warner Bros was scrambling to get a sequel up and going again, he remained frustratedly non-comiddle about his non-involvement. For the studio, he was the guy that finally made sense of the long development the movie went through. They were weary of trusting anyone to the project. (At least not yet.)
But Burton was the opposite of the spectrum. He was struggling with how much credit he could really be attributed to him. Surely, the brand itself had done the heavy lifting. As long as Batman was on the poster, did it really matter who made the damn thing? Obviously, we all know now that of course it did. But those were the insecurities haunting a young artist who had never experienced adulation or scrutiny to this scale before. One day, you're the Nirvana that made a few stuff like Bleach and gained a small crowd. But then the next day, you're the Nirvana that made Nevermind and changed the entire world. And Batman Returns is most definitely Burton's Nirvana. He recognized that he was still developing as a filmmaker. As his films grew more and more personal and more refined in their own sensibilities, it was clear to anyone paying attention that there was a lot of discovery going on.
And so, diving headfirst into another Batman movie, probably felt like some regression into rejectory. Burton wanted a challenge. Unsurprisingly, his attitude towards all of this was sort of “Been there, done that.” Which was exactly why he intentionally didn't want to be unavailable when he signed on to make Edward Scissorhands for a different studio instead. But rather than hiring a different director to helm the project like anyone would nowadays, Warner Bros was willing to wait. They would do everything in their power to lure Burton back on board. The first step was commission the first film's screenwriter, Sam Hamm, to write a script.
Originally, Hamm wanted to have Harvey Dent become Two Face after it's revealed The Joker somehow survived the fall, and during his trial, sprayed acid on his face, turning him into Two Face. But Warner Bros wanted The Penguin as the next villain, whom they saw as the next biggest Marquee villain next to Joker. Meanwhile Hamm had enough loose conversations with Burton to discover that he was actually really intrigued with the character of Catwoman. As a result, both villains were included. Sam Hamm’s original script titled “Batman II” was drastically different from the final product. It was something many at the time were probably experiencing what the sequel was going to be like. Both villains were more inline with their comic book counterparts, Vicky Vale returned, as did Harvey Dent, Robin was introduced, making callbacks to events in the first movie, the same sets made reappearances, even expanding the role of Jack Napier’s backstory into the plot. The script was very much a direct sequel to the previous film.
And so when Tim Burton read it, it confirmed his apprehensions. Although it was a confident script, it was just more of the same movie. He wanted nothing to do with it. So Warner Bros made one last ditch effort to convince him back for the movie. And that was to give him FULL. CREATIVE. CONTROL. He could bring in his own writers, he would no longer have to listen to whatever producer Jon Peters wanted in the movie, there were no pop songs he'd be forced to include on the soundtrack, he didn't have to force in characters he wasn't interested in Robin or Two Face. No notes, no demands, no interference. They ended up giving him the largest and most expensive canvas he was ever given and told him he had free reign to do whatever he wanted. And the more Burton considered it, the harder it was often to turn down. And so Warner Bros ended up getting exactly what they paid for: A film that was, for better and for worse, exclusively a Tim Burton movie.
And while it was true the movie created controversy among parent groups, and the kids that actually got to go see the movie in the summer of 1992, the backlash for Batman Returns is greatly exaggerated. It was still a hit that summer, it was the third highest grossing film of 1992, and it received generally positive reviews. Many of them who hadn't liked the first movie. Something you'd also see when you watch UA-camrs react to the movie. Most people that felt the first movie was okay, they all felt Returns was better while others that felt it wasn't as good as the original. But both Tim Burton and Michael Keaton also agreed it was a superior movie to the original as their preferred choice. But while the movie did very well, the problem was that it didn't do as well as a Batman movie should. Especially when you compare it to something like The Dark Knight. And Burton deservingly took the line share of the blame for that. The franchise was still too early to end, the third film was never in jeopardy. The only thing that changed was the studio no longer viewing Burton as the key to all of this. They felt exactly how Burton felt the way he had before singing on the project: “As long as Batman was on the poster, did it matter who made the damn thing?”
I watched this last week for the first time in a long time and this movie rocks. That may not be the Penguin and Catwoman from the comics, but damn are they endlessly entertaining to watch. I love this movie.
Time has been much kinder to this film. It's a classic in my mind.
For me, though I did enjoy it, I didn’t like it as much as the first. I can’t quite put my finger on it, the best way I can describe it was it was mean. There was a quality of fun that the first one had that this one didn’t.
It felt like a modern batman story, before modern barman stories.
As a kid I wasn’t disappointed when I saw the movie in 1992 and as an adult I still enjoy it. The box office wasn’t overly disappointing IMO & I even remember some critics liking it. The only people I remember hearing were disappointed were McDonald’s. Apparently they didn’t find it very Happy Meal friendly. I have heard Tim Burton say that McDonald’s specifically did not like when Penguin spews up green sludge at the end of the movie. I love Batman Returns
They could've brought back the Shamrock Shake for that one 😶
I think I saw "Batman Returns" in the second weekend it was in theaters, and I remember my parents warning me in advance that it had gotten bad reviews. I still enjoyed it.
It wasn't disappointing! It's fantastic! My favourite Batman movie!
It is mine as well. Love it!
My favorite batman, and a movie I rewatch every christmas.
I watched it last sunday
I rewatched it last night. A must Christmas movie for me too. 😁👍🏻👌☃️🎄
Disappointing? The best Batman film, bar none, and one of the best comic book movies ever.
A decent number of fans may say so. But a LOT of other fans wholeheartedly disagree
Is it just me, or does Dan seem to have a growing disdain for the material he covers?
You are correct!
@@orinanimeI just showed my girlfriend the old Batman movies, she hated Batman Returns 😂 liked Batman Forever better
@@scottdecowski4913 my wife likes Forever the best out of the 4.
But at least she likes 89.
89 is my favorite out of the 4.
And tied for my favorite live-action Batman overall with 2022's The Batman.
This was the first Batman movie I ever saw. I love it even though it’s really different from the source material. Devito’s penguin is what does it for me
I couldn’t see it matching the success of the 89 Batman. The 89 Batman was a legit cultural phenomenon. In its own it was just really decent dark and quirky follow-up.
I definitely like your channel and appreciate your input but this movie is fantastic man…I can’t believe you feel this way about this movie
How Dan felt about it and how WB felt about it are two different things. Dan just said it was ahead of its time.
Disappointing? No... just no. You're allowed to have an "opinion" and I'm allowed to say it's wrong.
I still consider it the best Batman movie ever made. DeVito was brilliant as the penguin.
Wait what?!?!?! Batman Returns is fantastic! Selena Kyle:"Wait... does this mean we have to start fighting?!"
It's on my playlist for next week damnit!
Thanks for calling out the boss of all bosses and his ability to lose money.
The only thing disappointing was people pretending this movie was anything less than awesome.
10:33 i felt something as a kid seeing Catwoman and her costume, and it was definitely corrupting
lol.
Still the best Batman movie! If only we got to see Burtons trilogy. Happy Christmas Secret Galaxy team. Thanks for all the content this year
I absolutely love this bizzarre, beautifully twisted, fever-dream of a movie.
And to think medication could've taken this from us - Just two tablets alone would've done the trick. We must be grateful. Never has being delirious and some reports of talking in tongues been so rewarding.
The parents must've thought it was the adam west batman movie they were seeing
Lmao @Jason you stuck in! I love this movie! Saw it in theaters and was all in! I’m 41 now so it hit me at the right age. I loved the original & hate I missed it in theaters. I had my whole room done in Returns shit lol Ate a lot of McDonald’s to get all the stuff Used to play with the toys under the Christmas tree. Still have them & while I remember being excited to finally find the catwoman toy as a kid was disappointed they didn’t give us another penguin or other film characters. It’s definitely a Christmas movie & have been enjoying reactors reactions to it lately(they always like it)
The greatest Christmas movie ever. Really puts you in that festive mood.
The Batman Returns cereal was AWFULL!!!!
Huge let down considering its predecessor for the first movie.
This movie was ahead of its time. It’s dated MUCH better than the first movie. The score is epic. The only criticism is the lack of action, the only real Batman fight scene is the circus gang stuff at the top of the film. It needed more of that.
2 quotes I regularly said as a child after I watched the first 2 films
“This town needs an enema!”
And
“I played this stinking city like a harp from hell!”
I love this movie. More than '89, more than most Batman movies honestly.
I didn't realize this under-performed at the box office. It was my favorite Batman film until Nolan came around. Saw at a drive in theater with my mom.
Tim Burton batmans best batmans. Somehow I had no trouble understanding that it was for adults. Maybe parents should pay attention to parenting.
Huh? I loved it as a kid, and it was definitely marketed to kids through the toys and cereals and happy meals. Maybe parents shouldn’t be raising wimpy kids
@@elijeremiah1058 Yes that would be nice too
Batman Returns is my favorite Batman related thing in general and Danny DeVito's Penguin has been one of my favorite fictional characters since I first saw him as a small child. He and the movie as a whole really shaped my love for the weird and grotesque.
Batman Returns is definitely a unique experience
Saw in theatres when I was a kid. Loved it. Still love it. It had more action than the first movie and that is really all I cared about. That Christmas I remember literally all my toys where batman returns action figures and I did also get the batmobile which turned into the rocket and it still sits on my shelf today. I was absolutely furious when Batman Forever came out.
Hey, Dan Larson! Val Kilmer played Batman in Batman Forever in 95 not George Clooney. George Clooney wouldn't wear the Batsuit until 97 Batman and Robin film
I was 11 when this came out and remembered being slightly let down from the '89 version. I however watch it as a staple of my "Christmas movies" along with Die Hard.
As a kid I cried when given a Devito Penguin toy, having seen the movie and being very young I still understand that that guy was a baaaaad man
I was too busy beating “Bad Dudes” from Data East!!!😂😂😂 We have to save the President!😭🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
I still have the McDonald's cups from this and Batman Forever.
DIET COKEEEEE!!!!!
@@aliastheabnormal "Sir, don't you think you're taking this a bit too far?"
@@wstine79 DIET COOOKEEEEE!!!!
My dad has his set on display 😂 still has those Frisbee lids on them too
Looking back Batman Returns is the best Batman movie ever made so far. Despite Burton being fired after it, he end up still being the only director that really gets Batman and the mythology until Matt Reeve's the Batman.
It's ahead of it's time and still holds up as a great masterpiece film.
fantastic Batman movie..🦇🦇🦇🦇😎
In the UK we were ready to think about the future, this set the opening weekend record, beating Terminator 2's previous record.
I was introduced to Batman through the 66 show ,Alan Grant and Norm Breyfogle's time in comics .
But it's the first two Burton movies that have been my favourites .
I really like The Batman ,but I'm all about the Gothic
Tim Burtons Batman films has a fairy tale-like vibe and less comic book which is fine but not perfection or appeal to the hardcore fans vision.
The originally planned sequel would have been so much better even absent Penguin.
Danny Devito and Robin William are perfect casting.
Also would have loved to see Two Face (played by Billy Dee Williams).
It was good to me.😎👍
I was obsessed with Batman in 1989 and 1990. Dad got a VHS copy of The Blob (1988) and told me it was the new Batman show. In the movie, Kevin Dillon was wearing a leather jacket with a clown on it. Dad said, "See? He works for the Joker." I watched most of the movie anticipating Batman to show up and destroy this blob creature. I kept asking my dad when Batman was going to show up. Dad kept saying, "He's comin'!" I was largely disappointed when Batman didn't show up.
It's my favorite batman movie 😊
Penguin was gross and not sympathetic, the writer should have focused more on Catwoman and Batman, Bruce and Selina’s story than the Penguin. Everything with Bruce and Selina is perfect.
I've still only watched Batman Returns twice - once in theaters, and once as a VHS new release. Never liked the goofy Penguin and overall goofier tone. The Schumacher films felt like a natural progression from the direction of Returns. (whereas 89 Batman is still a favorite)
What is with the Jason Voorhes clips in recent videos? I’ve noticed them over the last 6 weeks or so
Batman Returns, alongside Alien 3 in the same year (1992), seemed to start a trend of movies with continuous droning soundtracks. (Quite a fun movie apart from that).
Fairly recently it's evolved into something even more obnoxius - the never-ending ULTRA-EDITED emoting soundtrack. Which hammers into your skull what you should be feeling at every moment in every scene.