MOST WRONG THING I'VE HEARD IN MY ENTIRE LIFE - Crowder's Take On Great Replacement
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- Destiny reacts to Crowder's take on great replacement and how he blames the left instead of the right...
Date: 26 May, 2022
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Crowder tries to pin the buffalo shooting and great replacement rhetoric on the left
What game
@@lancemagmer9701 among us
@Destiny dude I would love for you and crowder to debate I watch both of you and I think it would be so entertaining
It's almost like it was created by the left, perpetuated and celebrated by left wing leadership ...
Ah-May-Zin!
My level of sociology is that Destiny is a girl's name
@@Vasto--Lord nah my female cousins name is destiny and she’s 43
@@KingofthejungleBTW Boomer cousin
Amazin
Destiny sounds like he luh black peepo too
The highest level
I feel the world is looping. Like destiny did these arguments years ago and now they're mainstream
Natural
LOL and what was destiny answer to the White Population becoming a Minority ???? " oh who Cares" . LOL yeah sure he answered this , Demographics is destiny is the realist statment the left says
These ideas have been brewing for at least 6-7 years
You can only Ignore reality for so long
thats just american politics, I was saying we are going back to the bush era
What will happen first? Destiny dropping the manifesto or Destiny talking to Crowder?
That's like asking whether lauren will admit any responsibility for her old content before mr. girl will admit that he's being abusive in his relationship.
I would like to think Destiny has asked Lauren and Carl if they could get him to talk to Crowder (or Shapiro) at least once.
@@adler5653 isn't that guy weird around children? I saw his cuties review and haven't kept up with the other stuff.
@@lincabe321 its that guy
Manifesto, Crowder wouldn't even talk to Sam Harris.
The criticism about the cops having the child scream out is actually true and horrible. The cops we’re outside of the classroom and they told the children to scream out to let them know who was still alive and when the child screamed out the killer shot them.
was that confirmed? ive only really heard that from twitter randos
well maybe the kids shouldn't of screamed out.
@@mysticflow467 uh? what? ya so the cops should NEVER have asked them to put their lives at risk like that in the first place, ever, these are ELEMENTARY school aged CHILDREN, CHILDREN, who are taught to & believe that the police are there to help you & what they ask you to do is to contribute to you're being helped & saved, to actually put that blame on the CHILDREN rather than the adults that were wildly irresponsible in so many ways is absurd& disgusting. I'm sure those kids never thought for a million years they would legit stand in the hall for 2 hours& not rescue them, I'm sure they thought "if I scream they're coming to get me RIGHT NOW". holy smokes I just can't believe yours blaming the kids for that. insane.
@@mysticflow467 Haha nice bait.
@@bobguy3880 lmao
My ex girlfriend is mexican and her family is like super right wing, religious, anti abortion, anti immigration and were huge Trump supporters. Her uncle told me once that Trump was right about his own people coming from Mexico being rapists and murderers and shit. It was a huge paradigm shift for me.
The longer I'm subbed to Destiny, the stronger my conviction becomes that his audience isn't nearly as smart as(many) they believe they are...many just wait for Destiny's answers and then they ctrl+v it, without thinking or understanding the answers.
But if destiny is smart and i copy everything he says then that means i am smart too ;)
@@VonStrupenheimer no you are smart if you can logically arrive at the conclusion a smart person can arrive at without outside assistance
@@VonStrupenheimer When asked to explain the conclusion/answer, you just enter a malfunction phase.
Ex:
"Trans-women are women...because... trans-women are women😤"
Destiny is also not as smart as he thinks he is
@@JustN0tMe trans women are women because "woman" is a social category that encompasses the social construct of gender as opposed to the reproductive capacity of the organism. Hope this helps
The more I learn about Canada and its people, the more I am convinced that the stereotype or conception that they are nicer than Americans is a lie.
@Football-Pundit I'd rather know what someone thinks of me than have to guess. I also really don't like fakeness or "fake nice". You can be polite without being friendly 🤷♂️.
Nicer….probably? Maybe? Our two national sports allow and encourage fighting. We are passive aggressive but generally prefer being pleasant as it just makes things easier.
As a country, we exceed the US in education, health, freedoms, social cohesion and overall happiness / wellness. Nor do we have a crippling wealth gap that is pushing our society to a dangerous cross roads.
@@domenicgalata1470 does Canada exceed the US when it comes to free speech? I'm genuinely asking, so far that and the ability to move better different states within the same country in order to help drastically at reducing your taxes are probably the top 3 things that I like about the USA lmao which isn't saying much
@@domenicgalata1470 yes, it was that famous Canadian freedom that forcibly put indigenous children in abusive schools or rehomed them like dogs. So much freedom.
@@tb8654 No, it does not. The American model of protecting even hate speech is pretty unique and special.
Thanks destiny this is the type of political content you should be doing. Not whining about keffals or bitching about Vaush. Watching a politically relevant right wing UA-camr whose views are likely very reflective of the mainstream conservative’s so your critiques will have broad utility.
Based and truepilled
Both are based
He should be doing both, Vaush and Keffals are as bad as Crowder
He criticizes Shapiro and Crowder, but it's like once a month because they aren't saying anything radical or new... but let's shy away from Keffals saying debate channels are the new fascist dog whistle led by Nazi adjacent Stardust and Dylan; while Vaush is saying we need to get our guns and defensively take to the street and shoot every public Republican. 8)
@@FriedHedgehogBalls she has like maybe 1% of Crowder’s audience. Her opinions just don’t really matter
35:30 the reason the parents were trying to go in is because the cops weren’t. They were standing around for nearly an hour while their kids were being killed inside. Just read up more on the details Destiny
You do know that there is no scenario that you let the parents just go in there. And then a cop accidentally shoots a parent and then we're into even more fun times.
@@krazyknott6663 I understand the logistical argument but morally it’s just unacceptable if the cops aren’t going in they would have to detain me before I just stand there and accept that no ones going to help my child getting murdered
@@krazyknott6663 the only reason the parents went in is because the police were not engaging the threat. No one is saying parents should just barge in on their own. What part did you miss about the reason they went in is BECAUSE the Uvalde PD literally were not doing their jobs
@@krazyknott6663 And then a deranged gunman accidentally shoots your child and then we're into even more fun times.
As was shown with CRT and LGBT being taught in school to children you can fuck with parents and they'll take it but if your fuck with a parent's kids then the gloves are off and they will die for their children.
@@krazyknott6663 That’s not the point of the criticism Vaush and others are making. Of course parents shouldn’t be running into an active shooting scene, because they shouldn’t HAVE to. The issue is that the cops WERENT doing just that until it was too late. The parents were justifiably freaking out because the cops weren’t doing anything.
It triggers me when Destiny does not finish his sentences
Such as when?
He has half thoughts.
His brain is just too fast
My brother in Christ, you forgot a period.
It triggers me when Destiny does not finish his manifestos
Destiny might not be moving to the right but the viewer base of this channel definitely is.
Nah they're just becoming more aware that their side is just as fucked up as the other side. I hate people who willingly ignore the problems on the left. It's insane.
@@ZeldaVStheworld I'd consider myself part of the bunch that are now able to identify problems on our side. With that said I still feel there's been a major change in viewer base, I don't hate them though or their opinions.
@@vicious3638 U might be right, but I feel like everyone's moved a bit in that direction or another radical direction over the years when the lefts has been doing nothing but lying ever since 2016. They said Trump cheated and that he would ruin the country when he didn't cheat, and it was covid that ruined the country along with the rest of the world.
Yeah they are unironically far right now. Like worse than the PragerU comment section. They are defending Nick Fuentes and Lauren Southern and the great replacement too apperantly. It's Desinys fault for not being more responsible
@@dehistoriapisciumfish7639 Who is they and who are you? Do you think you are superior to “they”? Because you are just dripping in privilege…
When has Sanders ever said "I alone can fix this." He mocked Trump for saying that multiple times and endorsed both Hillary and Biden.
destiny loves equivocating the left and right so much he’ll compare crazed qanon proto fascists to extremely average social democrats lol
Bernie is a populist in my opinion but his critics are much too harsh. He is definitely the most good faith and consistent politician in my opinion.
His campaign slogal was literally "Not Me, Us."
@23:00 Schroedinger's immigrant, simultaneously does no work and steals all the jobs
"Immigrants are a monolith"
Wow, so odd that they say that literally every single mexican alien is doing the two simultaneously. And not that they do it as an aggregate to the extent that they inconvenience the majority identity.
Yeah, because it's totally impossible to get paid under the table and claim benefits at the same time, right? No-one ever tries to game the system, right?
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 what I was going to say. It’s not hard to think of the scenario you came up with.
25:28 Destiny, I work in immigration law. This argument you are debunking is dumb and has always been dumb. If you attempt to gain any type of lawful permanent resident (green card) status in the United States, you need to prove (and this has been in place since before ‘65) that you will not become what’s called in the law a “public charge”, otherwise they straight up wont let you in to the country (at least not permanently). It’s actually a rather convoluted and arcane process where you have to show that you will have your needs met at above 125% of the federal poverty line. Obviously, as an immigrant who has no authorization to work and no (legitimate) social security number (and if you use a fake SSN and are caught thats considered fraud which could seriously affect your eligibility to ever immigrate to the US) you cannot support yourself, you need a sponsor, this can theoretically be anyone but for most people its the person who petitions for them to come here. If that person’s income cannot be proven sufficient on its own to sufficiently support the immigrant at 125% of the federal poverty line, you need a another sponsor, and potentially another until you meet the threshold. This sponsorship is actually a very serious obligation, if the sponsor(s) fail(s) to support this person, the federal government can actually hold them liable because they have to sign whats called an Affidavit of Support (I-864).
I highly doubt he'll see this, shoot him an email as he always checks those.
as the other person said, send him an email since he likely won't see this in the utube comment
@F.W. That’s very much not what I’m saying. My point is that if you want to LEGALLY immigrate to the US, you have to show you will not become a public charge (in most instances). If you cross the southern border between ports of entry AND are not caught by immigration officials, this does not apply to you. Those people typically work under the table for cash or work using fake SSNs. You cannot apply for ANY welfare benefits without an SSN. If you use the fake SSN to get welfare benefits, even if its in your name, that is fraud, and welfare fraud which is a federal crimes and is a crime in all 50 states. If you land yourself in a criminal case where you’re charged with fraud/welfare fraud, you will immediately get on ICEs radar and if you aren’t already, you will land yourself in removal proceedings. If you’re convicted and proven guilty, you will only have a small chance to defend yourself. There is only one benefit that you can apply for to protect yourself from imminent deportation (because of your criminal record), withholding of removal. In withholding cases you have to show that it is more likely than not that you would persecuted if you were to return to your home country, and not just persecuted, but persecuted on account of a particular protected ground, like if you were to he executed for being gay in Iran or something along those lines but 99.9999% of people that would make it this far lose and are ordered deported to their home country. So the claim that illegal immigrants are drawing on the welfare system is just patently false.
@@FifteenCharms If you really work in immigration law, then you would know that your own claims here are not accurate. First off, there are over a million illegal immigrants who are now "dreamers" and receive all those benefits. In addition, "Chain Migration" allows one family member to sponsor up to six other family members. Unless that initial person is extremely wealthy (doubtful), then there is no way they can meet the "125% above poverty line" requirement you mentioned. And, all illegal immigrants have to do is have an anchor baby and then their family instantly qualifies for government assistance.
@@TomTomTom87 If you’re referring to “dreamers” as DACA recipients (DAPA is vacated so you can’t really consider that) and the benefits of the DACA program remain extremely narrow and are currently actively enjoined such that there are no new applicants being allowed into the program. DACA is specifically designed for childhood arrivals as is in the name. A simple google search would show your own claim about how many DACA recipients there are is completely inaccurate (there are about 600-700,000 not over a million). The claim that they all receive those benefits is also just plainly untrue. Most of them are still quite young (under 30) and don’t have the demonstrated need necessary to get medicaid or food stamps. All DACA gets you is an SSN and work authorization. They still have to separately apply for those benefits. It is by no means common knowledge in immigrant communities on how to apply for things like Food Stamps or Medicaid. While it is true that they can apply for those benefits there is no guarantee they will be accepted and receive them. If their income is high enough, they will be flatly denied and the state government requests your tax returns when you are applying for these benefits. You can also just be denied as a discretionary matter (any criminal record).
As to your “chain migration” comment it just bespeaks a fundamental misunderstanding of just how family-based immigration works. Your claim that they can sponsor up to six other family members is true but as I mentioned above a failure to meet the financial obligation can lead to serious civil and potentially criminal liability. You also forget that these applications have an extremely long processing time in which USCIS or the DOS examines the finances and other sponsorship obligations of the sponsor and make a determination as to the necessity of a joint sponsor to meet the public charge ground of inadmissibility. It also seems like you don’t understand just how long of a line the visa bulletin is, especially for high chargeability countries. The only family members that don’t have a decades long wait for visa availability are children under 21, spouses and parents of US citizens and lawful permanent residents. Unless the sponsor/petitioner in question has more than 4 children under 21 that are not US Citizens the scenario of welfare exploitation you are envisioning just does not exist in reality.
I would looooooove to see a destiny/ crowder debate.
Crowder is too big for destiny. He’ll just pull the “my audience is bigger than yours” card. He’ll say there’s no point in debating him
Crowder is a hothead, which served him right because he had the courage to show on campus where 95% people hate him for what he believes, but he’s pretty bad at debating things other than 20 year old leftist npcs
@@kennythawsh isn't he recently been making a lot of videos of just debating random strangers tho?
@@ACE112ACE112 that's his way of avoiding debates with people that can argument with him
That why he only debates college freshman
Everytime he interviews some random stranger and they know what they're talking about he deflects and changes to something else
@@kennythawsh That card doesn’t work when you consistently debate college undergrads with a much smaller following than Destiny….. Crowder should stick to unfunny comedy skits.
Destiny either watches 10 minutes of video and talks for an hour or watches an hour of video and doesn’t talk at all with no in between
Stephen Crowder getting worried enough to hastily straw man "Great Replacement theory" is like a killer showing up to the scene of the crime to help with the search or something lol
If we swap Americans with Mexicans (for example) will America really be the same type of country or will it be like Mexico? It appears that Mexican culture affects the way they believe a government should be run. IMO it's not unreasonable to think a third world civilization that has never been successful in the history of humanity will suddenly adapt to Western culture and be as advanced as the West. Especially when there's so much pride about non-Western culture no matter how poor it is.
@@edwuncleriii1922 where do you believe Mexican culture comes from, and why is it different?
@@josephb456 are u serious?
@@josephb456 Where culture comes from is a question many anthropologists have struggled to answer. I don't know where it comes from, all I know is groups of people are generally different in the way they structure their country and that's objectively true.
@@edwuncleriii1922 lmao have you ever heard of the Aztecs? That’s Mexico bro
51:30 werent coming here looking for a handout?
Depending on when they came, if they showed up some time in the 1800s, they might've been given a tract of land in the Homestead Act. I've heard conservatives argue "well, they had to clear, farm and pay taxes on that land". Still was a massive handout, one that was offered for the most part to white European immigrants and not freed black slaves.
It actually was offered to freed slaves
@@whenthedustfallsaway 1.6 million white families benefitted from homestead as opposed to only 6000 blsck families
I said "for the most part" and I stand by that. 1.6 million white families took advantage of the Homestead Act whereas only 6,000 freed black families did. That's a disparity of 99.6% to 0.4%. United States was 20% black up until the early 1900s and the overwhelming majority of them would have worked on farms/plantations in the mid-1860s when the Homestead Act started. Many of them continued farming after the Civil War and were taken advantage of via share cropping by former plantation owners. Lincoln did have a "40 acres and Mule" plan as a form of reparations which had the potential to be on par with the Homestead Act. He was assassinated before that could be enacted and Andrew Johnson wanted no part of that and immediately began undermining Reconstruction.
@@whenthedustfallsaway and they reneged on many of those promises
@@whenthedustfallsaway there was an act that was passed prior to the homestead act that gave land to freed slaves. When the next president came in he reversed the order, Then homestead act gave those lands to predominantly white northerners and some freed slaves.
You can find Many clips of dems saying how it's a great thing that whites will be the minority and laughing about how funny and great it is.
So?
@@TheNewblade1 exactly my point.
@@yayorandel6048 why is it okay for a diverse group of people, with only skin color in common, to exclude others from a land?
@@TheNewblade1 Who is excluding anybody?
If it's so easy, show them. Crowder should have. And you could too since you know where they are. I'll wait
The fact that you said you’d rush in if you were a cop for your kid and won’t let the other parents go in after is part of the issue. Those officers were already in the school so you could have sent in backup behind those that were risking their lives and cleared a place of entry and exit into the building.
Seriously. I had to rewind just to make sure I caught his obvious contradiction.
He also complained about firefighter analogy even though it's 1 to 1 analogous
Read that of the initial three that went in 2 were shot
his point was he wouldnt be rational in this situation…
"I think people will only push for what gives them more political power." While I agree with this and Destiny's hypotheticals of if the shoe was on the other foot, it doesn't remove the issue if there is an unfair imbalance of political power. I say if, because I don't really have much of an opinion on if that is really true or not.
My point is that all this means is that people, more often than not, vote for their party's best interest first and their country second. Not that Destiny is trying to make any other point, but people will use arguments like this to try and discredit one side or the other when every side does this.
You're right. The left has way more control in government and culture yet scream like they aren't in power.
Democrats supporting the war on drugs and "tough on crime" policies with Republicans even though they believe the demographics disproportionately targeted at the enforcement end of this are more left wing seems to disprove this thesis that both parties use policy to change the demographics to benefit themselves imo. If anything ig you could break things into smaller groups and say centrist dems were doing this to target the left and prevent primary challenges but in a way that ultimately hurts them in general elections.
Imagine thinking 1/6 was a coup. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not a coup per se, but it was a violent attempt to install a presidential candidate who lost the election.
I still amazes me that Destiny still does the whole horseshoe centrist shtick when the most popular conservative on UA-cam acts like this and at most you have some fringe leftist twitter user online freaking out about kinks or some talkie on UA-cam ranting about US imperialism...
4:10 Wow. So Destiny believes in Game Theory. This point is kinda infuriating because OBVIOUSLY we understand that people vy for power. I've never asked, just assumed, but I'm pretty sure most people against the 'both sides' arguments understand this point, but it seems like the people who are trying to make this point fail to understand, or establish, just how fucking different they go about it, and how those processes are the defining difference and why the two parties are not the same.
new destiny video 👀
but no manifesto yet....
Hmmm curious…
the real manifesto was the friends we made along the way 😊
His manifesto is just vaushs whole career
Not only do you need a sponsor (i.e. someone who earns a certain amount above minimum wage to promise to support you if necessary), who is usually the petitioner but can be someone else, you are not allowed to claim any welfare for a period of five years after getting the first provisional greencard. This is for ALL visa types, including marriage and other family visas. In other words, pisco95 is wrong as usual.
Wait...pisco was in this video?
@@isaackvasager9957 No he just claimed there aren't economic tests for visas or greencards (at least family ones) in a video with Lauren Southern and neither Lauren or Destiny picked him up on it.
Large scale immigration to the US definitely happened before WW1 and WW2. The 1800's were actually when a lot of the Non British and French settlers came to the country. German and Dutch farmers relocated to the American mid-west and south during the earlier part of this century and during the Irish potato famine, begging in 1845, a huge wave of immigration from Ireland occurred, many of which ended up fighting in the civil war for the Union. In the late 1800's a lot of immigrants from the south of Italy made their way over as well and landed on the East Coast. This is about the same time Polish people started arriving in the East and Mid-West in large numbers. By the time WW2 had started there were already a ton of Irish, Italian, Polish, German and Dutch immigrants in the country, many of which were 3rd or 4th generation and didn't even speak their native tongue anymore.
Whats wrong is the numbers of poc coming here. The coloreds are the problem like it or not.
Well it wasn't about whether or not they'd speak English as much what genetic heritage they're of, blacks and some asians have being there for several generations and still regarded as 'African/asian American' so the majority obviously consciously recognise some intrinsic aspect of them to still label then as a separate group. The Kkk groups were certainly not putting as much focus on prosecution of specific European ethnicities as they did towards blacks and other non Europeans. Same as white nationalists now who argue for some form of pan European sentiment while labeling all else as invasive xenos to be vigilant of
Sure, and that was well & good. Crowder’s point was they came for the right reasons, to work & for freedom, back when there weren’t tons of handouts available willy nilly. Also coming from Europe meant they had a lot of values in common with the early American settlers - hence integration was a natural process (unlike some cultures)
@@robertweekes5783 yeah, just that his point that most European migrants came after WW1 and WW2 was wrong. A lot of European migration outside of the British Isles and France happened in the 1800's. Also, yeah you can characterize the migration during that period as 'for the right reasons' in the sense that people came looking for opportunity and not handouts but that is still true today. Most people that legally emigrate to the US are skilled labourers/educated or they are bringing money into the US economy. It's really only illegal immigrants which don't have to pass this process or the family members of those that are already here legally.
Great Replacement is true.
Destiny the Biden "amnesty" had a 10year path to immigration and applied only to anyone here since 2010 (around 900k people, NOT 11mil)
So happy you've covered this. What's even more concerning is his comment section.
Crowders argument is factual though.
Obama’s tweet was deranged. That’s the kind of thing people are getting annoyed about, pushing « the narrative » in whatever occasion.
What tweet? Video is too long and I can't be bothered.
@@CptVein Destiny read the tweet.
@@Strawn149 I know he did but I am too lazy to find it in the video. Timestamp please?
7:05
@@CptVein maybe just go on Obama’s Twitter account and sort by new? Why is laziness an excuse for the most basic level of effort...
The first 4ish minutes summarized my emotions towards a lot of this perfectly.
In 1995 Quebec lost a referendum on sovereignty. Prior to the referendum, the Canadian Federal Government increased immigration and encouraged English-speaking Canadians to relocate to the Montreal area. The Yes to sovereignty side lost to the No side by approximately 50,000 votes. Quebec would be a country now if not for immigrants and English Canadians who moved to the Montreal area. Immigration does weaken voting power of everybody else.
why were English Canadians allowed to cast a vote for Quebec ethnic partition? This raises the question:
1. If you are not willing to exclude English Canadians from your casual lives then how is voting going to do that?
2. To what extent do you require being an administrative and registered Quebec person represented by that in a legislative body?
Just like you cannot be a little pregnant, you cannot just partition a little into a separate nation. A partial partition would require some degree of freedom into other spaces like the internet. Thus far there are no nations on the internet besides what exists as compatible language groups. You are here now
Bro, people here don't like the truth. Please be respectful. The narrative is the only thing that matters.
Northern Ireland style dunking
I think destiny acknowledged the fact, but said something like "if you have a problem i can't help you".
Destiny is wrong in his early take about immigration and 'only wanting things because its good for your side" I'm a progressive, and I KNOW hispanic and sometimes black culture is conservative, but if the demographics shift that way naturally, thats how it goes. We just need better ideas on our side and better policies to change their minds. This is some massive projection by Destiny.
As if the demographics are shifting that way "naturally" - 280,000 illegals cross the border every month, breaking federal law, and are given free phones and welfare.
It was kind of a loaded statement, because he didn't say white conservatives, he said white conservative neo nazis, which isn't a realistic scenario because it's probably quite difficult for someone with nazi beliefs to get past immigration
Anti-populist arc to cap off his anti-right and anti-left sagas
The characterisation of Populism at (12:45) was pretty poor IMO.
There are legitimate concerns with the power structures of modern Western society. From the mass surveillance states exposed by the likes of Snowden, to the large Corps maintaining the status quo through media control, misinformation and political lobbying. All while the working class see massive transfers of wealth to the wealthiest in society, while witnessing a degradation of their own standard of living.
Waving off those concerns as unfounded or misinformed and that "they follow their favourite UA-camr" is an infantile a characterisation as it can get.
Similarly to characterise the establishment candidates as altruistic, studiers of political theory & data is just patently false. There are power structures and agendas at play here. We don't need to be lunatic QAnon followers to state that.
There's a reason why many feel apathetic & disengaged from big party politics and it isn't because they're all just brainlessly following their favourite UA-camr like they're the Pied Piper.
Yeah, I was also disappointed with destiny's definition. He is usually a lot more on point
Populism is stupid because it really does come down to having unfounded and misinformed ideas. We live in a more complex world that needs expertise in certain fields to make smart decisions. If you're gonna address any of problems with power structures, it's gonna be through them. You have to be at least somewhat brainless to fall for any of the populist brain rot
@@Roman-jx9ny what is the difference between populism and democracy?
@@Strife40k Democracy is a type of governance based on the vote of the people. Populism is an approach to politics based on the appeal of a large ordinary common people and an elite who are either negligent or destructive to the common people. I don't see what you're getting at here lmao
@@Roman-jx9ny democracy is populist. To win in a democracy, one needs to be popular. It is by definition a popularity contest.
The honesty of Crowder is why we have the phrase "when pigs fly" 🐖
I love America it has good food
@@povurarguingwithme3160 food's tight.
@@povurarguingwithme3160 Well, you can thank multiculturalism for that.
@@theobell2002 I support immigration because of somali food. I'm a single issue voter
@@rakshas1340 BASED
Destiny contradict himself a lot in the first 15 minutes. First he claims that the left and right haven’t moved more left and right but that populism has rotted minds. He draws multiple parallels between Trump and Sanders in an effort to show how they are similar in policy and aim which efforts to show that the real division is extreme populism rather than the left and right moving further from center. However Destiny then proceeds to contradict himself at numerous points by referring to the “extreme left” and “extreme right” with specific reference to Sanders and Trump respectively. You just spent your entire effort noting that neither were extremely left or right and that both were populist, only to immediately walk that back by referring to these figures as extremes in a left/right dipole.
Frankly this makes no sense and I think even Destiny on some level knows that left and right populism are entirely different and that populism isn’t the real issue. There’s likely no more populist a figure than Joe Rogan, but right and left populism are entirely different beasts and that’s why a figure like Rogan will make discernments such as allowing Sanders on their platform but not Trump. Right wing populism is nearly an oxymoron at the offset, as actual populist policies are dialectically opposed to right wing policy on most economic fronts. A “right wing populist” is therefore just a mouthpiece for populist rhetoric that ultimately serves right wing causes in the culture war while reinforcing institutionalism at every other (more meaningful) level.
@William Snow That conclusion doesn't follow from the premise. In terms of policy, populism and the right wing have virtually no overlap as they contradict each other on most values. The same is not true of left wing policy. Public option healthcare? Affordable higher education? Regulation of corporate overreach? All populist and all left wing. Right wing populism is fundamentally castrated because while right wingers love to screech about evil corporations like large tech companies, they also refuse any form of regulation because "SOCIALISM REEEEE!!!"
Hmm. That still doesn't negate that destiny is a girl's name
@@ragecl4120 sounds more masculine than Rage to me. That’s cringy edgelord stuff like “shadow” or “blade.”
This upload made me question my brain. I was like am i still watching the intro?
Its 100% true on the medicaid being an on/off thing. Some states have a 1 year transition period if your income increases, but that transitional insurance is far weaker than medicaid's already weak coverage.
24:00 in addition to paying taxes when using other people's social security numbers they also pay their child support payments. At least until they get caught which doesn't always happen or takes a while to happen. Child support agency locate employers using social security numbers. They don't verify photo ID or descriptions of the person that owes the child support. So employer get located, garnishment begins and the guy who stole the social security just deals with because he wants to remain in this country. So these lazy immigrants are also taking take of the kids of Americans who refuse to.
We’ve seen what’s happening in Europe. And there has been video of illegal immigrants being “shipped” all over the US.
Crowder: I won't use culture as a proxy for race
Also crowder: uses culture as a proxy for race
That you cant seperate the two in your own head its pretty obvious
@@sith1986 making a vague blanket statement that doesn't address the point in an attempt to defend Crowder isn't the own you think it is
@@sith1986 yea like dude said your point doesn't address his point at all. It's not that we can't separate the 2. It's that people who make the argument don't understand that the culture argument fails when you try to apply it to America which is a melting pot of different cultures and its been like that since we became a country.
Plus the fact that most people who make the culture argument. Just use it for a replacement for race. The irony is you accuse him of not being able to separate culture and race when that's never been the point of the culture argument. Most of them would say race and culture are linked.
@@DODIRTT Disregarding whatever the other guy's point is, saying culture doesn't matter in America because its a melting pot is frankly a ridiculous statement and a gross simplification of American culture and cultural history.
@@theoldhermit2601 "making a vague blanket statement that doesn't address the point"
The irony of using this to defend the OP is glorious.
I'll say something... The strength of the US as an immigration destination, yes, is propaganda. But the idealism as a destination was based entirely on the fact that the working culture of those third world immigrants was comforted by the culture, as Destiny says, of "swim or sink". No one immigrates for welfare, unless they are refugees, most of the immigration is based on that relationship of "High profit in the US system" and "having the work culture of those born in the third world"
But, the irony of the situation is that... That relationship is being destroyed. And that's because of the rising cost of living in the US. Every immigrant knows that if you want to emigrate to be comfortable, you must go to Europe, if you want to have money and work, emigrate to the US.
This feels like a genuine right vs left argument chose a side and argue it
Which is why I don't like half of the points that either side is making! Destiny won't acknowledge that the corpos using outsourcing and immigration to keep the wages for local working-class citizens low is a bad thing when not everybody can get a higher education or a high skill job, but crowder won't acknowledge that the corpos finally deciding to raise the minimum wage is a gud thing despite it being too damn late for that since gas is about to be 6 dollars per fucking gallon!
I think Crowder is talking about the bill during covid that gave like $75 mill out to anyone, including illegal immigrants, in California. Along with the benefits they get in states like that. Also, the fact that destiny acknowledges they do roofing and construction now, not just farming, shows that they take more and more jobs that are necessary in rural America
Sounds like they’re contributing to their country and by Crowder’s logic deserve to be here more than the native people they’ve supposedly displaced from the job market :)
@@sabiro2315 Contributing to what people said would happen I guess lol. Idk what that does for the country exactly
glad the intro song is back
The song that plays for half a second at 48:55 is Roy Jones Jr. “Can’t Be Touched”
It triggers the fuck out of me when conservatives cite European culture being similar to the US, but then say that LATAM countries don't have a similar culture... Like do they think that South America just natively spoke fucking Spanish and were Catholics?
European culture isn’t like us culture at all.
You're wrong. Go to Mexico or Brazil sometime. You'll notice they frequently try to employ a religious syncretism where they worship Jesus Christ and also worship idols characteristic of the old Injun gods, like the cults of Santa Muerte or of Pachamama, to give just two examples. Problem is that Christ is a jealous god and "no man can have two masters", so such people actually don't follow a European religion; they deny the supremacy of Christ, therefore they are fake Catholics and are going to Hell.
These guys see "European culture" as a fucking monolithic. Europeans have been at each others throats for centuries. They still do, western Europeans being against Polish people migrating to their countries. North Ireland where there are still walls separating people and riots happening over cultural and religious things. Americans seeing Europe as a whole know nothing about Europe.
Lets not start about the many many many fucking languages spoken in Europe lol.
@@mclovin9165 Not relevant. To illustrate, a Bedouin proverb: "me against my brother, my brother and I against our cousin, and all of us against the stranger." Relative to the rest of the world, *yes,* European culture *is* monolithic.
comparing being against immigration of neo nazis into your country vs immigration from hispanics is also dumb
Yeah, but then he can't have a knee-jerky "hot take" if he says that.
U missed the point, he was suggesting that “x” political party would only support immigration if it benefited them.
@@maskedbrocclli5603 yeah i understand that, but how many times is he going to say "left and right are the same" give a terrible comparison and then walk it back to pisco saying well they are technically the same but not to to the same degree. thats all im complaining about
@@TheChuckNorrisinator He isn't saying they the same. He is just saying both sides support what would benefit them which makes sense.
@@playboicartiismydad4842 another example is the filibuster. Once republicans take the senate . The dems will want the filibuster to stay
Plenty people who come here illegally and legally get welfare. In Miami, you live here right? It is commonly known that Cubans (who have traveled here via Mexican border) get set up with housing assistance, food stamps, medicare etc. Particularly older immigrants who have never even worked here. If the Cubans in Miami can get that, I have no doubt other nationalities get the same when they come here. Then theres those who commit fraud to get benefits. To act like that doesn't happen, and all illegals who come here get no help is disingenuous
I can't believe no one in chat pointed out that at 18:45 the guy's name was Brownstein as a talking head for the segment Crowder called the "browning of America"
I think the Obama thing was more him trying to say like “hey we had so many huge protests for George Floyd we should try the same thing for this but this time with gun control”. Like at least from what I read in the follow up tweets. It was still poorly worded obviously
He never said anything close to that though...
did we just read different tweets or?
@@asz4928 "in the aftermath of his murder, a new generation of activists rose up to channel their anguish into organized action..." The follow-up tweet goes on but that seems pretty obvious he's drawing parallels here no?
@@jeremias-serus maybe? His follow-up tweet he talks about the movement launched from Floyd's death, I assumed that he was drawing a parallel from that tragedy to this one saying people should go protest and shit 🗿
Black and Brown people do tend to be pretty socially conservative outside of the issues around race. If Republicans just bit the bullet around equality and fair immigration they’d probably find that they agree more with them than the Democrats. You might see a huge swing to the right if race and fair legal immigration policy weren’t basically non-starter issues, like if we had solved those issues, for many minority communities. They tend to be more Christian than white people and more open to religious doctrine dictating policy, they tend to be more favorable to increasing jobs than increasing social safety nets, they tend to be more okay with pro-life positions. Although less so now than in the past, but it’s still pretty close to 50/50… not even close to the. super high like almost 90% they have traditionally voted Democrat would lead to believe on that issue. Like, they’re much less aligned with the democrats than their voting patterns would indicate, it’s just that Republican rhetoric shows them that they hate them, that’s the biggest reason they don’t vote for them. It would totally change the landscape of politics if R’s didn’t cling so desperately to racist policy.
Honestly that bit about people not knowing a lick of English using google translate are always the most respectful people and I love helping them vs any native English speaker regardless of race lmao
I'm here for this =)
Destiny doesn't know what he is talking about. He could have done a simple google search and provided the correct information.
Illegal immigrants may be eligible for a handful of benefits that are deemed necessary to protect life or guarantee safety in dire situations, such as emergency Medicaid, access to treatment in hospital emergency rooms, or access to healthcare and nutrition programs under the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC)
Children here illegally have access to the public school system.
In 2014, 63 percent of households headed by a non-citizen reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native-headed households.
Compared to native households, non-citizen households have much higher use of food programs (45 percent vs. 21 percent for natives) and Medicaid (50 percent vs. 23 percent for natives).
Including the EITC, 31 percent of non-citizen-headed households receive cash welfare, compared to 19 percent of native households. If the EITC is not included, then cash receipt by non-citizen households is slightly lower than natives (6 percent vs. 8 percent).
How can they do both? The woman applies for welfare and the guy takes up three jobs. They lie about how much money they make and dependent's they have, if they actually do get a job taxes are taken out from, and when it comes time to file taxes they bail or get a different ID.
Illegal immigrants still would have to pay property tax, which pays for public schools, so the fact that they use the public school system isnt an argument
@@andrewcox5873 Nothing to say about the other stuff?
You assume they are paying property tax. When they rent a home lets say and have 20 people living in it are they really paying property tax?
Not to mention that property tax isn't the only tax based funding that goes into schools.
@@colkestrel no, nothing to say on the other stuff. You don’t have to “assume” someone pays property tax, you either own a property and pay tax, or you rent a property and the owner pays tax. If you have a lot of people under one roof, then generally you have a bigger house, and pay more tax. Same as legal residents.
@@andrewcox5873 or maybe they are willing to have a bunch of people under one roof and be uncomfortable to avoid paying property tax.
You are also assuming that they have to own or rent a home. They could be living in a van or a camper for all you know.
@@colkestrel in my experience it’s mostly white people who live in camper vans
"No one could of seen 2 decades in the future" haha plans take time, so yes, its possible not to see into the future, but it is possible to set it up in hopes it happens.
have*
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 if you're only response is to correct the grammar of a online post that was most likely from a mobile device using swype typing, don't bother. It adds no value to the conversation or topic. It's not a insult to the person typing, it shows you have a lack of responses.
@@orclord5719 I'm very sure using Swype would not change 'have' to 'of'
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 so your whole reason for replying to this conversation is proper grammar?
so Crowder's point is that Democrats curry favor with a certain group to get their votes? How is this bad?
Because he is lying and saying that illegal immigrants are coming and voting rather than legal immigrants who become naturalized citizens after many years.
I think they were saying companies want less high skilled labor because its more expensive. And there are a lot of people who work jobs they are over qualified for but make more money than others at that role because they have more qualifications i.e degrees and experience. And people usually would rather pay more for someone over qualified for skill jobs than less for someone under qualified. Kind of like how you’ll pay more for a skilled tattoo artist rather than one who just started. Yes, its the same tattoo but one will likely be higher quality.
It's a comedy show. That's why he wears the holster. Personified his side into a character
Yeah he calls it a comedy show, but I'd consider it educational. Is he bias? Yes. Does he go out of the way to provide sources and be more honest than most people out there? Yes.
Another episode of Gaslighting With Crowder
1:04:00 they didn’t have free trade policies in the 60s like they do now, so it wasn’t as easy to incorporate overseas using cheap labor and then import goods into the country
what Tactical RPG is Destiny playing on the background?
The only problem I see, is the American way of thinking. Because American definition are such, that any interracial activity will pretty much by definition mean the end of a "white" majority. So the entire basis of the discussion is pretty much based in racism.
Even supposed left wing people argue on this basis. The entire discussion and way of thinking is based on racist thought. And because that's the case, the only solutions will also be racist and/or divisive.
You guys should really stop your weird racial essentialism and stop looking at everything through the lens of 'race'. It's weird and disturbing.
Progressives seem to be the people obsessed with race and it is rotting the country from the inside out. We’re supposed to simultaneously act like being a racial minority isn’t a big deal while also looking at the world through the lens of race. It’s completely incoherent.
I dont know were you are from but in most parts of this world ethnicity is a huge factor
Does Destiny not understand that an influx of low skill immigration causes wage decline?
Wages can't be infinitely high. It would also help temper inflation and immigration would ease when economic opportunity became lower. That's not to say anyone can just walk in, but it should be easier.
For a small minority
There is no evidence of this
Who’s making the decision to lower wages though? It’s def not the immigrants
Sounds like a personal problem. Maybe you should develop the skills to work a job where low skill immigrants aren't your competitors.
Honestly the way these horrible oaf cops acted, maybe there's a silver lining that we finally unite against the horrible institutions that are repeatedly failing us, here's hoping.
The uk is much worse when it comes to just handing out welfare. Which is why people tend to go through countries like France to get here. Sounds like it's not so much the case in the US
What game is Destiny playing? Looks interesting.
Destiny, Crowder is actually a perfect example for why CEOs wouldn’t want foreigners competing with them rather than being wage slaves because there are only so many hours in a day and Crowder, the Canadian, is in direct competition with other conservative media figures for watch time, social media engagement, and subscriptions/donations.
It's simple, white people gave women voting rights. Now women focus on their careers instead of having kids. We have to flood the country with immigration because otherwise social security would go bankrupt. If you don't want white people to become a minority you must eliminate women's rights and female empowerment so they go back to the kitchen have a kids once again. Look at any fertility rate from any western country that has empowered women, the fertility rate is below replacement. Female empowerment is a terrible idea and it will lead to our demise.
The parties changed when big business moved from Dallas to Austin, Sacramento to SanFran/Seattle. And from Guilliani’s New York, for that matter.
You don't have to do child support through the court. However, the court doesn't recognize it as child support. I don't know how much wiggle room there is if you have receipts but you're putting yourself at risk.
Wait till Destiny learns about the word "Wrongest"
August makes the titles
@@Eesh_ He's quoting destiny; watch first minute of vid
@@TwoFace199 I stand corrected
"The single-word comparative and superlative forms wronger and wrongest are no longer in common use, except humorously; rather, the locutions “more wrong” and “most wrong” are preferred."
@@jonnyvelocity wtf really?
Let's not also forget the intellectual heavyweight Ben Shapiro thinks the great replacement theory is not believed by the Nazi and Alt right.
did he say that
Yeah did he say that?
I know he showed a montage of leftists (politicians, media) saying stuff along the lines of white people will be replaced.
@@Greyz174 yes he said that the great replacement theory is something believed by leftist because the left focuses on race not the right lol
@@lincabe321 that doesnt exclude alt right / nazis. it just excludes normal conservatives
Ben is Jewish so he’s really playing with fire if he’s doing that.
america isnt even the freeest when you look at the free press and speech index, economic freedom index and more
how does the video keep rewinding that far 😂 lol
Back holsters make me cringe. The easy way to flag everyone behind and beside you in one smooth motion
I love how crowder said "they're celebrating it", and then not a single one of the clips he showed, said it was a good thing
Have you never seen these guys on tv? Do you really think they don’t harbour ill will towards white people?
You’re living under a rock if you think they don’t have animosity towards white people
If you think the people talking 24/7 about diversity and who think white people and whiteness is evil are not celebrating whites becoming a minority you are consciously blinding yourself
Julian Castro was though. Saying with the demographics change red states will turn blue, which is exactly what he said, is bragging.
Are u kidding me? No one is celebrating this?
@@alext5497 I think the point was you can actually find examples of this yet you couldn't see that in any of the clips Crowder showed
Destiny hearing part of the Crowder video play twice now knows how it feels to listen to average August editing. 49:36
90% 50 years ago.
Less than 60% Today.
Affirmative Action.
Nearly all of Media Advertising.
"He probably thinks a banana is 20$". Well, tbf, we're getting there.
Bro where lmao
@@ben5154 It was a joking reference to inflation, don't take what people say on the Internet so literally.
In a free market one is allowed to pay 20 dollars for a bamananana
I can appreciate how Crowder puts his sources in the description..
In Obama's defense on the tweet, the Floyd thing was May 25th, on May 24th he had several tweets on the shooting itself. Maybe he could have just mentioned floyd by himself on the 25th, but maybe that didn't feel right either. Its definitely not as though he barely paid notice to the shooting. If anything it was the opposite.
Congrats to him for being 2 years drug free
any comments he made about the trial in recent videos? couldnt find it, would love to know
Crowder being wrong? In other news water is wet
Well Crowder is not wrong here, Crowder is not usually wrong and water is also not wet haha it’s so funny you chose water is wet for that scientifically untrued. That’s like saying fire is burnt… firebirds things. Water wet stings. Water is a liquid in fire as hot. You probably don’t even watch Crowder. And I disagree with destiny here but I like him and I don’t agree with his politics but I think he’s right about a lot of stuff. You might disagree with Crowder about a lot but he’s very smart, he’s very entertaining. He’s a really good person who does care if you takeoff your tribe on sunglasses and actually watch him. Just thinking every non-progressive is terrible, you’d probably like him.
@@jessejive117 nice meme
Water isn’t wet. Wet is the state of something being saturated in water. 😉
@@jessejive117 Psyop?
@@666DemonCleaner we only have two options right? Either water is wet, or it is dry. Since water isn’t dry, it follows logically that it must be wet.
people asking about the manifesto, while I'm asking about the morbifesto we are not the same
No idea if it's the same, but in Finland you have to go through goverment systems for Child Support, because monetary gifts to non-family members is taxed super high past 2000€ a year (iirc).
39:56 You're wrong.
If the base feels like they were helped by a party/politician they will definitely vote for them...Brazil with their Labor Party is a prime example of this and in Portugal I still hear 14 years later, the black community praising Sócrates (ex-Prime Minister and lider of the Socialist Party) for making obtaining citizenship an easier process...despite all the corruption, the debt he left and the robbery...
Crowder confused Sweden and Switzerland at the end lmfao, very loudly too.
In the 50s and 60s Unions didn't want competition in the skilled labor market. Manufacturers didn't need skilled labor as much as they needed button pushers in the plants.
Haven't watched the entire video but I have already seen a response to this crowder bit so Im assuming you're trying to counter destiny's observation, which I expect him to make, that skilled laborers entered the country thanks to these bills. If this is the case, then it's worth pointing out that the impacts of increasing amounts of skilled labor weren't immediately felt at all, but they definitely are real, and they definitely were part of the goal. The thing was that the American economy had not yet entirely shifted from a production centered economy to... Whatever we have right now.
Yes, and for some reason, Destiny thinks Crowder said European immigrants were seen as cheap skilled labor, when he said literally the opposite, that they are expensive skilled labor, and had like 3 seizures over how 'stupid' the concept was.
Now I don't know how true Crowder's actual statement is, but still, that wasn't his actual statement.
Isolationist vs interventionist isn't automatically a left or right thing.
He's american, therefore, confused.
It may seem weird that he exists, but I wonder how many other b tier talk show personalities would take up this gauntlet for the millions of dollars it leads to. People commit atrocities for far less than he's getting.
It‘s mind boggling how dishonest crowder is
Examples?
I hate when people make statements like this and give no examples! It feels like you are full of shit...
@@socraytes This video
Obama:
“Brown shooter? Remember George Floyd.”
Kind of weird how the problem with the Buffalo shooting is white supremacist ideology but the problem with the Uvalde shooting is easy access to guns. Makes me wonder if there is some kind of narrative being pushed.
@@nsaylor9 the anti-white agenda.
By agreeing and signing a written agreement (a stipulation) for the guideline amount, parents do not have to go in front of a judge to decide child support. Your agreement will need to be submitted to the court clerk for the judge to sign so that it can be enforced as an order of the court. That's what California does with child support.
Destiny said that the average Republican very little trust in the system has. I can imagine that's why they follow Trump anywhere he goes. They already don't see him as an Republican candidate.
How much more trust in the institutions does the average democrat has if they think the police hates black people aswell as the justice, which lets white killers free in their view?
its not a back holster, its called a shoulder holster. While they may not look great, they are considerably more comfortable then waste band holster imo.
And completely impractical which is why no one uses them anymore, other than when they are streaming of course
Do you want to be comfortable, or do you want to be a fashionista? Beauty is pain
@@TonyCox1351 They're really practical if you can have a big jacket or a suit on over it. Good ones are really expensive though
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor maybe a big coat in winter time but Crowder lives Texas and probably doesn’t own a coat. The big boxy suits of the 90s are way out of style now, I don’t think a modern fit could accommodate a shoulder holster. Frankly if you’re wearing a tailored suit you shouldn’t be able to wear a piece without printing
@@andrewcox5873 does he ride a motorcycle? If so he'd probably wear a jacket while he's out on his bike, even in Texas.
Anyone should be able to tell that wasn’t what Obama tweeted just from how it sounds. He doesn’t write that way. He did tweet mentioning the 2 incidents and I completely get how people are misreading it like that. It’s terribly written. What he was actually saying was, after George Floyd, activists reacted and accomplished some actions and so people who are feeling upset about the Uvalde shooting should do the same, organize and create change again in reaction to it.
🤣😂😂 it doesnt say that at all. Youre seeing what you want to see. You must be an obama voter
activists accomplished nothing
But he also linked the activism for BLM. If he was saying there should be activism based on Uvalde then wouldn't he recommend activism that was more relevant to that?
@@voldy2189 It wasn’t a link to direct their activism TO blm. It was showing an example of what he was talking about. He probably is not positioned in society to know the best activists to connect with around the Uvalde situation. He’s rich and famous, not even local. He probably has absolutely no connections that would be useful for someone. He’s just giving the advice to direct those feelings into something concrete instead of helplessness or nihilism (like most of the internet).
@@internethero83 said like a true bystander.
I'm so tired. The conversations keep looping for eternity.
25:53 it's not only because of voting. You can't have cheap slave labour if they don't life in fear of getting deported and suddenly have some rights.