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More people need to be educated on the chiral spin of molecules. You can have two of the same chemical, with vastly different effects because their curvature bonds with proteins differently. Chemistry is just now getting to the point where we can even start experimenting with different curves of molecules. Though we have long known about this phenomenon. This type of research is probably at the forefront of what we need to do chemically.
I saw a study they did on Vit C . They had an orange, orange juice and a Vit C supplement. They measured the release of the Vit C over a 24 hour period. All forms put the levels up immediately but the levels of the juice and supplement then went straight down. The orange levels went up, plateaued for about 8 hours and then went down. The orange, with the fibre, released the Vit C at a constant rate over that time. Whole foods win every time
Totally, on the whole foods. There are medicinal uses that require other preparations, but for general health- the food is as it should be eaten, for the most part.
Buffered Vitamin C can be created at home, dissolve regular ascorbic acid in water and later add to it 1/4 of the amount baking soda. The water will fizz and after 10 second you will have sodium ascorbate.
Can you tell me more? I'd like to know. Let's say I have a fizzy tablet of 100mg of vit C, do I add 25mg of baking soda? And isn't synthetic/normal ascorbic acid made out of GMO e.g. black mold from corn/lemons?
@@yaseenyahya Not sure what to do with tablets, I only buy powder. Tablets are probably made with other stuff and will not dissolve quickly in water, if it is a fizzy tablet than again I'm not sure because I never tried it, the fact the it is fizzing implies to me that it already may have some baking soda in it but I may be wrong. If you use regular ascorbic acid powder than yes, for 100mg of vit C, add 25mg of baking soda. Some ascorbic acid is GMO and some is not, they will let you know if it isn't on the label. No Idea about the black mold. Yes as far as I know it's made from corn.
@@ManageDeMaia i just put the powder in my big gulp cup with my green tea and sip it through the work day - so that the C is regularly entering the body (since it dissipates so fast). So I don't see a need to "buffer" it. Buffered tablets tend to sit to long in my stomach causing ulcers.
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How about just eat an orange or squeeze a lemon into your water. Dont forget apple cider vinegar for added benefits. Capers and vinegar foods like pickles or sauerkraut help the pancreas. For thousands of years before refridgeration we preserved and ate fermented foods. Kefir, kimchi....
That is exactly what I do . Drink about 2 litres of water from the fridge topped off with pure lemon juice. Totally refreshing and I feel the better for it. First thing in the morning, I take a small glass of water with a capful of Cider apple vinegar. About 20 mins before my breakfast.
There are studies that show cold water slows down or can all together make the absorption stop to a point of no benefit. Room temp is always best. Even on hot days cold water is bad. @@jamesmarshall3311
I would if they were not poisoned with all sorts of chemicals.. They inject them with a weird blend to make them mature faster, while they afterwards spray them with chemicals so they stay fresh longer, absolute crazy..
I agree- I do find it a bit disturbing that there was no mention in this video about truly "whole" food sources of vitamin C... I mean, the video is called "we finally know what type of vitamin C is best" NOT "...vitamin C SUPPLEMENT" is best. So they really should have included whole foods sources given that title.
I don't know my brother, if most people know how to appreciate your accumulated knowledge and how you lay things out to the very detail that many health teachers don't even know. Felix thank you for your generous hard work. You are a big blessing.
I don't take Vitamin C, but I eat enough fruits and vegetables that has vitamin c on them, so to me this has been the best way to get my vitamins, blood work shows all in check! :)
Natural is always best. I remember a biology teacher telling our class that if natural and synthetic nutrients are both available, the body will always choose natural first. It's how humans have survived throughout history. Also, how much can we trust modern manufacturers with our health?
Same here... I do find it a bit disturbing that there was no mention in this video about truly "whole" food sources of vitamin C... I mean, the video is called "we finally know what type of vitamin C is best" NOT "...vitamin C SUPPLEMENT" is best. So they really should have included whole foods sources given that title.
@rryAB Correction: As per the argument you're actually trying to make, "WHOLE FOOD sources" are best. Remember, as a solo molecule, the vitamin C molecule is "natural" no matter where it is, BUT what counts are the OTHER molecules coming WITH it (or not). Those other molecules help the body to actually USE the vitamin C (or not, if they are not there).
@titan1719 Correction: As per the argument they're actually trying to make, "WHOLE FOOD sources" are best. Remember, as a solo molecule, the vitamin C molecule is "natural" no matter where it is, BUT what counts are the OTHER molecules coming WITH it (or not). Those other molecules help the body to actually USE the vitamin C (or not, if they are not there).
Something to be aware of is (if I’m not mistaken) glucose and vit c compete for absorption. So maybe take vit c on an empty stomach, while eating fats, proteins or on the lower carb spectrum. PS- Sauerkraut is a very good source of food grade vit c as well. Personally I take organic camu camu.
I do find it a bit disturbing that there was no mention in this video about truly "whole" food sources of vitamin C... I mean, the video is called "we finally know what type of vitamin C is best" NOT "...vitamin C SUPPLEMENT" is best. So they really should have included whole foods sources given that title.
@@PatroliHoax less issues with whole food C, no upset stomach and it still does the job a little slower. Liposomal is too expensive, you should only use it in emergencies like pneumonia.
Liposomal ascorbic vitamin c still has a place in your nutritional arsenal. I’ve heard that its breakdown creates hydrogen peroxide in the body which is very powerful against viruses and infections…so much so that some doctors give hydrogen peroxide via a direct drip when people have severe bacterial infections. The best way is to definitely take the whole food vitamin C on a daily basis, but keep some liposomal sachets in your fridge for influenza or infection emergencies…and the liposomal is far superior to any other form of ascorbic acid. 🙂💕👍🏻
@@katcat5088 I just looked at a long list of foods that contain oxalates and how much. Kiwi's are low-moderate in it. Things like spinach, rhubarb, okra, and to a lesser extent some nuts and seeds (like almonds, cashews, etc) and certain grains/pseudo grain foods like rice bran and buckwheat are *considerably* higher in oxalates than kiwis. We're talking 16 mg per serving vs anywhere from 200 to 1500 mg per serving. Not worried about it at all, especially since I have a diet moderately high in oxalates (because I eat almonds and cashews somewhat regularly, and a lot of legumes like lentils) and I haven't even had a hint of kidney stones in my some 4 and a half decades. Thankfully I don't like spinach, rhubarb, and okra, so I'm not getting super high levels of it. This issue really is overblown, unless you are eating a ton of the former (spinach etc). I also regularly fast with lime or lemon juice water which is very good at cleansing the kidneys and helping to break up potential kidney stones. Often people who over worry about oxalates are either into keto and/or carnivore, which is ironic because these are often eating a lot of animal foods which have high levels of pesticide residues, especially in the fattier foods like butter (animals are bioaccumulators of toxins, the huge majority of which get stored in their fat). I'm A LOT more concerned with things like glyphosate than oxalates. Our bodies evolved along side and eating plenty of oxalates--but not things like glyphosate (which wrecks the intestinal lining, among other issues).
@@JJ-jl1ge Yeah so "full of". 🙄🤣 Nothing compared to both organic and especially non organic animal products. Animals live significantly longer than plants and consume, many, many plants, and bio accumulate whatever exogenous residues on the plants. But yeah, I happen to buy the organic ones, but honestly I don't think there is a huge difference.
Agree. When my immune system is down, my intolerances come back - generally yeast and alcohol - and a lot of supplements use fermentation or alcohol (including herbs) in the manufacturing process (even if not declared as an ingredient). Generally sorting out my gut mocrobiome and giving that a boost helps.
Let me tell all of you: you don't need extra vitamin C on a normal diet... It is one of the commonest vitamins and almost nobody is deficient. Don't lose your money, eat oranges from time to time... Or red bell pepper
An orange does not get rid of a sore throat in 20 minutes. Vit C is helpful in the medicine cabinet. And larger doses sorted out choroiditis in my right eye, saved my vision and avoided treatment with steroids. 20 years later, I still have healthy vision and no vascularisation which is the usual prognosis. Agree that normally we get enough vit C - in spite of poor soil leading to lower vitamin and mineral content than 50 years ago.@@Hansulf
The real issue is, the synthetic C needs to be the L-ascorbic acid {natural} form, not the D-ascorbic acid {synthetic} form, which is cheap and what most companies use, usually a blend of D and L form. There are plenty of scientific studies showing the cells need to be replete in ascorbate, which will not happen with so called whole food vitamin C. Copper and ceruloplasmin are not depleted until very high doses of ascorbic acid are used, nobody mentions that, and if you have studies to prove otherwise, share them, I need more than your opinion. Using a good fully buffered, pharmaceutical-grade {or better} L-ascorbate vitamin C product that has been tested for contaminants, is absolutely a healthy supplement to include in your regimen. Mega dosing is not required. And remember, if you are eating a good diet, you are getting some whole food C already, and all you need to do is add to it with a proper C supplement.
I'm slightly confused by your commend, with respect. You stated: "There are plenty of scientific studies showing the cells need to be replete in ascorbate, which will not happen with so called whole food vitamin C." Then stated, "Mega dosing is not required...if you are eating a good diet, you are getting some whole food C already". It sounds like to me, with respect, contradictory. First you state your cells won't be replete with ascorbate with whole foods vitamin C then say if you eat a good diet you have lots of whole-food vitamin c and it feels like you were implying ...this kind of sufficient? How is it sufficient if it does not replete your cells with ascorbate?
@@MathTutorVideos the studies that I had seen presented by Dr. Jaffee showed that it took more ascorbate than what a standard diet provides to give the cells what they need, according to the science he presented. When I refer to 'mega dosing', I was talking about 10-20 grams/day, Linus Pauling style. ua-cam.com/video/TM_z-cMYplc/v-deo.html Personally, due to the way food is prepared, shipped, heated and cooked, etc., I would not rely on whole foods to give my system the ascorbate that the body needs. It has been shown that even fresh food is deplete of vitamin C, since most fruit, vegetables, etc. are not ripened properly, and then what they have gets depleted in storage, shipping , and age. I don't think large mega doses are necessary unless you are fighting something. But a gram or two {not found in a day's food supply} of a clean, buffered ascorbate will give the cells what they need, without putting the body into an oxidative state. I am not a scientist, this is just the way I see it, currently. Whole foods may be 'enough', but not 'optimal'.
The study I'm referring to used 600mg and showed an average decrease of 20% in ceruloplasmin activity (link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3694287/). Whether you should go with AA or whole food C comes down to your individual nutrient levels and what you want to achieve. So it's impossible to say without knowing who you are talking to.
@@felix-harder Interesting. what they don't investigate is, when something lowers or raises something, does it normalize? For instance, something may cause an increase in prolactin, but then the body normalizes it after a while. Some things can raise blood pressure, but raising it is not as important as if it stays raised. So, my question would be, what ceruloplasmin levels do their' tests represent, ceruloplasmin just after taking the AA, or ceruloplasmin hours later, etc. Levels of protein carriers, hormones, enzymes, etc. can be affected spontaneously or chronically, and should be tested to verify. If something you consume changes something in your serum, how long does that last, and is it fair to say that something is overall high or low, if it is a short lived response to something. Many of these studies are missing key factors in drawing conclusions. Something I am curious about.
Can you clarify what the sentence below is implying? Cells need to be replete in ascorbate in order for what to happen? "There are plenty of scientific studies showing the cells need to be replete in ascorbate..."
Great info as always. The one question I have about anything labeled "from whole food souces" is "What about pesticide residues, are these eliminated during the manufacturing process?" To me "from whole food souces" is a misnomer if "whole" includes pesticide /herbicide residues. I buy organic whenever I can as there is a taste difference. I suspect that there's also a difference in any vitamin derived ftom non-organic produce as well.
There is no difference, your body is exposed to more toxins just breathing air than the amount that could potentially end up in a small capsule from any food source.
@@1bullneck1 I don’t think he’s saying that machines contain pesticides. I believe pesticides would increase when moisture and fibers are eliminated during processing therefore concentrating the remaining components.
Linus Pauling made a convincing argument when he appeared on the Phil Donahue show (yeah, I'm old). Briefly, he said we lost the ability to produce it ourselves when we were eating a lot more fruit, but that other mammals which are similar in weight, like a goat, produce fifteen grams per day. He said if we consume that much it would be converted into other things we can use. He also warned that abrupt cessation would cause one to catch a cold or be more likely to get sick so we should taper off. I followed his advice for a couple of years back in the 80's with no ill effects, "that I know of." I did catch a cold when I quit without tapering off, and did not catch any colds while using it (I don't think that proved anything). I have always wondered if his claims were sufficiently researched, proven or debunked. However, I never looked into it. For the last twelve years I've just tried to eat from each of the color categories of vegetables to get a variety of phyto-nutrients, consume at least half a cup of beans or tofu for protein and supplement sometimes with calcium citrate, K and D. I don't think I eat especially healthy as I'm eating sugar, ice cream and alcohol in moderate amounts.
Doctor on a YT reported that people on carnivore diet need only 3% as much vitamin C. Amazing to me. Wonder how that fits in with nature's carnivores like dogs and cats.
Linus Pauling double Nobel Price winner….what he said about it C was proven right except on a big study where the researchers didn’t follow Dr Pauling method and obviously the results were not as expected ..until today that research is used to “debunk VIT C” power.
Yeah, Linus Pauling was a big advocate of taking mega dose of vitamin C, and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold (1970), also Cancer and Vitamin C (1981). Unfortunately, he also died of prostate cancer at the ripe old age of 93. Compare and contrast Linus Pauling with Warren Buffett who drinks Coca-Cola daily, eats breakfast at McDonald's and routinely plays Bridge for his exercise, also 93 years old was diagnosed with stage 1 prostate cancer in 2012 for which he received radiation treatment and as of the current date still alive and well, although he may wear Depends now. The people commenting here are probably into astrology, new age medicine, crystal healing stones, aromatherapy, veganism, etc. There is no Fountain of Youth and 62 will never be the new 25.
Great breakdown. A+ in my opinion. I would like to point out that if buffering is not important for any given person, the magnesium form could make sense. After all, stomach acid is stronger than vitamin C. So just take it with a meal and you're fine. But if your body's magnesium is low versus calcium, then I would use the magnesium form.
an for ppl with weak stomach, just take c+rutine which have greater regeneration effect on tissues and it's less acid. and still cheap even you have 50% absorption rate it's still better choice than 10x more expensive one with 90%. Aloso Zinc is important in regeneration process(colagen forming). And we need to remeber that our body dispose vit c with 50% every 2h, so there is no point to take maga dose (which can potentialy hurt stomach) when you need take in steady tempo small dose through day
Speed @1.25 or sleepy time. Anyway, that was very interesting and informative, though twice as long as it needed to be. You told us the "what" then the "why" then gave an example.
The most important is IV vitamin C 25k - 75K mg. Remarkable effect on sepsis , MRSA , Covid , and most bacterial, viral and fungal conditions and...cancer.
They don’t need it I/V just add vitamin C to diet make sure is getting enough nutrients from food & enough vitD from sun or add vitamin! Also check the drug Fenbendazol which is known to kill cancer cells ( also works on dogs as it’s a dog wormer called Panacur 🤷♀️😉) also search info online on other natiral foods that kill cancer 🤞🙏
Wow! A very knowledgeable and comprehensive analysis of this very relevant question many of us have when we are trying to get a handle on our personal health.
One could argue against that the natural and synthetic vitamin C molecule is the same, as in nature vitamin C forms complexes which means it is an entirely different molecule that could have different properties (yes, that is mostly until the molecule gets broken apart again but upto that point this changes the bioavailability and how it is transported in the gut) - one of my favorite examples of this is the ascorbigen molecule that is formed in cabbages and the content of which increases in fermented cabbages. It is formed by its precursor glucobrassicin. Glucobrassicin is enzymatically hydrolyzed to indole-3-carbinol, which in turn reacts with l-ascorbic acid ending up as ascorbigen. For same molar amounts, ascorbigen is more effective in the body compared to ascorbic acid alone. The indole parts of the molecule probably add their benefits. Mainly about bioavailablity though. Because the molecule breaks down in the gut if I remember correctly - but you can confirm this further Felix. Anyway, interesting topic, good video!! Edit: oh lol, I watched the video a bit further and there was ascorbigen already.. lol. Never mind. Your video quality is hard to beat.
@@sblijheidonly if you're healthy already. If you suffered for over 40s years with a wheat intolerance, and told the doctor all your symptoms only to have them tell you you're making it up then you have a lot of gut issues that takes years to correct and malabsorption of vitamin and minerals is a major problem
I couldn't afford much in the way of fresh fruit and vegetables on a steady basis, for a long time in my life. But occasionally I could afford bottle of vitamins. Vitamin C is one of those things I really needed. I would have preferred the whole foods, but synthetic was the best I could do.
Sadly I live in Sweden where the central authority on what is allowed and not says that testing for copper "has no medicinal value" and is therefore not done here. Through research I have established that getting a test for copper probably would help me quite a lot in knowing how to move forward, but it's simply too expensive to order from abroad.
They wouldn't even give me a blood test for my iron levels despite massive health issues. Swedish healthcare is an absolute joke. Absolutely horrible guidelines and also the quality of the doctors you get is.... Well... Very very low.
Guava has a lot of vitamin C per single Guava, I prefer the Egyptian variety Another vitamin C hack common between Egypt and India is to blend limes with rind on in a blender then use the colander to grt the pure juice. Add whatever sweetner you like during blending
My alternative doctor told me to use only Natural Vitamin C. He told me to throw away my absorbic acid Vitamin c. So, every day I have a variety of kiwi, oranges, lemons, sour kraut, Camu Camu, black berries, raspberries, guava juice ( guava, IF I can find it), parsley, Brussels sprouts, through out the day.
@@greghilbers4697 Most vit c supplements lack the extras which come with berries, lemons, etc. Nothing works in isolation, it's all about what triggers what and in which way.
Kakadu plums The Kakadu plum (Terminalia ferdinandiana) is an Australian native superfood containing 100 times more vitamin C than oranges. It has the highest known concentration of vitamin C of any food, containing up to 2,907 mg per 100 grams (g) (camu camu is about 2145 per 100 grams). Just one plum (about 15 g) packs 436 mg of vitamin C, which is 484% of the DV.
@@or6144: Amla is great, but I've read that Camu has higher Vitamin C content than Amla. Currently, I'm taking Rose Hips for their Vitamin C content because I like to vary the program. :-)
Dr Klenner cured all his polio patients during an epidemic with intravenous vitamin C injections, this isn't something to dismiss if you are sick. Vitamin C has direct antiviral properties
I buy a bag of lemons and squeeze every bit of juice I can from them I then fill an ice cube tray with the juice and freeze…… drop two cubes in my large water tumbler daily.. sometimes I might put a drop of ACV with it.
I find taking ascorbic acid mixed with magnesium bicarbonate works great for me. My daughter who have a very sensitive stomach have to take the liposomal vitamin C which cost over $40 dollars for a box containing 30 packets. I'm cheap and tolerate ascorbic acid with magnesium bicarbonate well and it keeps me more regular so I like it better.
@@Inisfad Hi, vitamin C is a water-soluble antioxidant and can directly quench free radicals in aqueous milieu (including within cells), but [presumably in cell environment] may also recycle vitamin E and other antioxidants by returning them to a reduced state, and thereby suppress oxidative damage. Read more: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7844109/ In conclusion: they are routinely taken together and I have read somewhere that they should be taken together in the mornings. When I find the article on my hdd, I will post link here.
Imagine talking about Vitamin C and not reading and referencing 2xNobel winner and father of orthomolecular medicine, Linus Pauling, who wrote a whole book on the subject. Decent information provided otherwise.
The most natural way to obain vitamin C is to eat foods high in vitamin C. If that food is a fruit, always eat the fruit on an empty stomach and allow around 60 minutes for that fruit to digest and leave the stomach before eating any other food. Also, if eating high carb fruits cause blood glucose to spike, it is best to eat a limited amount of high carb fruits at one time.
Mostly agree except that most fruit digests pretty quickly. It is the most quickly digesting whole food category. 20 to 30 minutes is more reasonable. There are exceptions, like high-fat avocado.
I love this video and the time and research you put into the presentation. The only thing you missed, which I was eager to see comparisons on is Vitamin C from freshly squeezed or eaten citrus or plant based versions of intake, and absorption and what’s needed for fighting germs?
Good question, though it might be impossible to do given our soil and farming practices-you’d definitely reap more vitamins and minerals choosing organic food options.
One quarter of a yellow bell pepper or half a red one is a full adult dose of Vit C….Sauerkraut is even better if you like it, but bell peppers have low flavour so you can eat them even if you are not a vegge person.
I've been taking Ascorbic Acid 1g megadose for a while and developed some kidney stones. I thought it's not vit C because I've been hydrated well, but then I stopped it just in case. Kidney stone gone after another ultrasound, and so I resume taking it again at 500mg this time. And then developed kidney stone again. I looked it up and I learned that I'm part of the small unfortunate population with this kind of reaction to vit c. I stopped taking it and took Zinc instead ever since.
I have been taking 16-20 grams of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) for literally decades. Maybe it depends on a genetic predisposition if one is susceptible to getting kidney stones.
Thanks for the assessment/analysis: 2 Questions: 1. What about Time-release Vitamin C (usually Ascorbic Acid w or w/o bioflavonoids)? 2. I have seen liposomal Vit C (in capsules) that is definitely not a gel/liquid , but looks more like powder. How is this possible?
The best vitamin C form is DHAA, which is 1000x more absorbable by the body than glucose, which is many times more absorbable than ascorbic acid and outcompetes its uptake. In spite of what is said, this form is plentiful in meat, making fresh meat the best possible source of ABSORBABLE vitamin C.
@@InsolentVillager then you probably know much more than me about it. would you mind explaining how omega-3 fatty acids as DHA/EPA are/become ascorbic acid?
@@InsolentVillager my apologies, I was actually looking up 'how to get rid of trolls' and it never occurred to me to look up your claim. you really don't differentiate between dehydroascorbic acid and docosahexaenoic acid, do you?
Thank you for totally explaining all the vitamin C’s the pros and cons. I now understand what I’m looking at and what I’m buying when looking for vitamin C.
I am reminded of a young Murican I met in Nairobi many years ago. He commented that I was not taking my vEYEtamins. I commented that I got my vitamins from my food. Shortly afterwards, I heard him phoning his mother to tell her about this great new idea of putting vEYEtamins in the food!
High doses of pure ascorbic acid powder is amazing to use against a lot of conditions. No more cold, influenza or virus infections for days or weeks. With 10-20 grams pr day it’s gone in 1 day depending on getting started treating fast enough, no later than right after symptoms are getting bad. Add some D-mannose, and UTI is also gone in 24-48 hours. It’s a huge advantage to avoid antibiotics.
Wait what? From "No more cold, influenza or virus infection" - all of three are virus infections - to "It’s a huge advantage to avoid antibiotics"... Huh? Please don't take any antibiotics if you have a virus infection. They are made to kill bacteria, not viruses. Antibiotics won't help you with the infection and will f up your colon.
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter Vitamin C is inexpensive, safe and effective. Read what scientists and doctors have written over the last 100 years:-- Steve Hickey and Hilary Roberts, Ascorbate: The Science of Vitamin C (Morrisville, NC: Lulu, 2004) Irwin Stone, The Healing Factor: Vitamin C Against Disease (New York: Grosset & Dunlap, 1974). Linus Pauling, How to Live Longer and Feel Better (New York: W H Freeman & Co, 1986). Linus Pauling and Linus Pauling, Vitamin C, The Common Cold, and the Flu (San Francisco: W. H. Freeman, 1976). Thomas E. Levy, Primal Panacea (NV: Henderson, NV: MedFox Pub, 2011). Thomas E Levy, Curing the Incurable - Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases, and Toxins (Henderson, Nev.: MedFox Publishing, 2011). Steve Hickey and Andrew W. Saul, Vitamin C: The Real Story: The Remarkable and Controversial Healing Factor (Laguna Beach, CA: Basic Health Publications, 2008).
pls check ur kidneys as with such overdose you make them overwork a lot. superdose is 1 gr during 1 week is considered enormous dose and given by doctors exactly with the purpose you described. but it s,1 gr, not 10-20
I cant believe how good your videos are. I was also suspicious about ascorbic acid because its made of corn. And it gave me side affects like too bad fatique. Its like all my energy leaves my body. I cant even sit. I have to lay down. I never recommend ascorbic acid made of corn. I tried different brands. Both gave me fatique and dizziness at night.
I'm nearly 30 and have been taking ascorbic acid for around 15 years. I have not taken any OTC or prescription medicines in that time either, so I believe that vitamin C actually works. I take the powder version since it is cheapest and lacks any additional ingredients. Generally, I take 2,000mg daily. When I get sick from time to time, I have found for me that taking closer to 10,000mg (or more) spread throughout the day (something like 1,000mg every hour or so) helps me to overcome any sickness I've ever had. Also, gargling salt water when I have a sore throat, breathing in some peppermint oil to alleviate the pain of the sore throat, and blowing my nose a ton when I'm sick are other things I do alongside the vitamin C. Anyway, I hope this information is helpful to someone who reads it. Either way, I'm going to keep taking my vitamin C.
@Lee-pf6od Thank you for your response. Just to clarify, in case I wasn't clear, I have been sick enough to where most people would get a prescription to treat it. But, taking vitamin C has always worked for me (so far). I believe my immune system is not any better than average, but I do think it is boosted a good amount when I increase the vitamin C dose to what I previously mentioned. You're right that I can't know with 100% certainty that the vitamin C is working. It's just anecdotal evidence. Nonetheless, it appears to work consistently for me all these years. If you don't mind me asking, does supplementing with vitamin C work for you, or do you not notice much of a difference?
that was great, thank you. Im also interested in vitamin C used topically as an antioxidant. Could you please cover the various types used on skin? also you did'nt explain the pictures in the thumbnail. The synthetic photo looks scary!
That's a whole other field right there. Look up dermatologists going through the diff kinds of topical vitamin c. Ascorbic acid is the most popular but highly unstable on the shelf without proper formulation. There are others that are less effective, at least not as quick to act, but there are also some newer varieties that are more promising.
It's not always a purgative just because a product is "made in a lab" - a good example is benfotiamine, as it is considered by most in the Low Carb Community (like Dr Eric Berg or Dr Sten Ekberg) to be much better and easier to absorb than just plain B-1. That said, the whole food meat alternatives (fish) are better (most nut sources don't have a very bio-available B1, also contain lectins, excess omega 6, and have nutrient blockers like oxalates).
Benfotiamine sadly, criminally missing from every vitamin table in the world. I have a benfo fact page of text in my phone so if I meet a diabetic they can instantly photograph it without social entanglement and research it themselves. Had spectacular success with a dying diabetic with feet rotting off, his eyesight failing and extreme fatigue and peripheral nerve pain and doctors were billing him 500 a week to say there is nothing we can do for diabetic neuropathy ,you will die soon. There there. I made the first YT videos about Benfo B years ago just to establish the keywords and 8 years later today many rebel doctors are preaching that every diabetic should be on Benfo.
For some reason I was expecting a straight and clear winner and I finally realized that good science cannot give you a real straight answer, just guidelines. Seems like you're doing your homework right!
My friend. Excellent work. I appreciate your work - sometimes I've wondered if this kind of thinking and information hadn't completely disappeared from the plant. This I... I can see that you have a great deal of interest in the subject, so maybe there is a chance that you will understand me when I say this, but when I heard you speak the words "buffered Vitamin-C" I felt such joy, slow and deep, that it will last possibly for many days. That's all I can say about it. It is some truly fascinating subject matter. Is it not?
Thanks for sharing Felix. How much Vitamin C with Ester-C (from Solgar) to take daily? Some specialists say 2000 mg a day is too much and others say 5000 to 6000 mg a day. What do you suggest and see as more effective/standard?
I noticed you mentioned two whole food sources... camu camu and the other one. What do you think of Goji berries as a vitamin-c source? Does it come with good cofactors?
@@mytravls I was raised to eat oranges. And during the cold and flu season during winter time, I had almost no colds wow my friends at school were always sick. I was raised in the 40s and 50s. We used food, never vitamins, except cod, liver oil.
I take Vit. C daily as sodium ascorbate stirred into my morning coffee drink along with collagen, Lugols iodine, stevia, and goat milk or A2 half n half. 🙌👍
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Perhaps part of the issue is that the RDA of Vitamin C is 60mg. The RDA basically is the amount to ensure that you don’t get scurvy. Presumably, for actually immune enhancement, the body actually requires more than that.
Hi Felix, great information but you don't address the thumbnail used in this video. What is depicted in the thumbnail and what is the story behind it? It would be great if you addressed this as the thumbnail seems very interesting. Thanks.
i've had some success with sodium ascorbate, i don't take it often only for flu or infection but regular ascorbic acid seems not to work at all even in high doses
You missed the main point altogether. Your body flushes out vitamin C fairly quickly. But to get maximum benefit, you need a constant supply of vitamin C. That means you either need to take vitamin C several times a day or take a time-release vitamin C. The latter is preferable.
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What a made up story 😅😅 enjoy ratings by telling old story with good pics video clips. ?😅
@@priyakulkarni9583your comment seems more like nonsense than his video. LOL
hi, what did you study?
did you study any chemistry or nutrition?
More people need to be educated on the chiral spin of molecules.
You can have two of the same chemical, with vastly different effects because their curvature bonds with proteins differently.
Chemistry is just now getting to the point where we can even start experimenting with different curves of molecules.
Though we have long known about this phenomenon.
This type of research is probably at the forefront of what we need to do chemically.
@priyakulkarni9583 that's an outlandish statement to make. Where is your supporting evidence?
I saw a study they did on Vit C . They had an orange, orange juice and a Vit C supplement. They measured the release of the Vit C over a 24 hour period. All forms put the levels up immediately but the levels of the juice and supplement then went straight down. The orange levels went up, plateaued for about 8 hours and then went down. The orange, with the fibre, released the Vit C at a constant rate over that time. Whole foods win every time
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Thanks. Very important.
Store bought Orange juice are pasteurized and vit c is heat sensible so those juices lack vit c
Totally, on the whole foods. There are medicinal uses that require other preparations, but for general health- the food is as it should be eaten, for the most part.
So if you break the pill and mix it with fiber, like beans or cabbage, you'll get the same whole food effect: slow relwase.
Buffered Vitamin C can be created at home, dissolve regular ascorbic acid in water and later add to it 1/4 of the amount baking soda. The water will fizz and after 10 second you will have sodium ascorbate.
Can you tell me more? I'd like to know.
Let's say I have a fizzy tablet of 100mg of vit C, do I add 25mg of baking soda?
And isn't synthetic/normal ascorbic acid made out of GMO e.g. black mold from corn/lemons?
@@yaseenyahya Not sure what to do with tablets, I only buy powder. Tablets are probably made with other stuff and will not dissolve quickly in water, if it is a fizzy tablet than again I'm not sure because I never tried it, the fact the it is fizzing implies to me that it already may have some baking soda in it but I may be wrong. If you use regular ascorbic acid powder than yes, for 100mg of vit C, add 25mg of baking soda. Some ascorbic acid is GMO and some is not, they will let you know if it isn't on the label. No Idea about the black mold. Yes as far as I know it's made from corn.
that's interesting
@@yaseenyahyaif you're going to buy ascorbic acid the best one is quali-c
@@ManageDeMaia i just put the powder in my big gulp cup with my green tea and sip it through the work day - so that the C is regularly entering the body (since it dissipates so fast). So I don't see a need to "buffer" it. Buffered tablets tend to sit to long in my stomach causing ulcers.
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00:00 🍊 Discussing the best type of Vitamin C: Whole Food, buffered, or liposomal.
00:28 📊 Four main forms of Vitamin C supplements cover 95% of the market.
01:07 🔄 Distinction between Whole Food Vitamin C and isolated/synthetic forms.
02:02 ❓ Consideration of Whole Food vs. isolated synthetic Vitamin C.
02:29 🔬 No known difference in biological activity between natural and synthetic ascorbic acid.
03:09 🤔 Whole Food Vitamin C contains co-factors missing in synthetic forms.
03:37 🆚 Pros and cons of synthetic and Whole Food Vitamin C supplements.
04:19 💲 Synthetic Vitamin C is inexpensive and available in high doses.
05:12 🥦 Whole Food Vitamin C supplements come with natural co-factors.
06:33 🤷 Difficult to superdose with Whole Food Vitamin C due to pill volume.
07:00 ⚖️ Adrenal gland stimulation and sodium retention linked to Vitamin C types.
07:54 🌟 Whole Food Vitamin C aids copper bioavailability; synthetic lowers it.
09:03 🚑 Use of synthetic Vitamin C for acute cases like flu due to high dose availability.
10:21 🛒 Most commercial ascorbic acid comes from chemical companies.
11:29 🚫 Side effects of ascorbic acid include stomach upset and diarrhea.
12:26 🔃 Buffered Vitamin C is less acidic and stomach-friendly.
13:06 💊 Liposomal Vitamin C boasts higher absorption and stomach gentleness.
15:13 🧪 Vitamin C with bioflavonoids may enhance uptake, but evidence is mixed.
16:06 🛁 Ascorbyl palmitate is fat-soluble, used in foods and creams, but less studied.
17:04 📝 Recommendations vary based on desired vitamin C benefits and co-factors.
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Thanks, what is the best?
@@anchoranchor3495 for everyday, whole foods. For sick, synthetic and load up.
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How about just eat an orange or squeeze a lemon into your water. Dont forget apple cider vinegar for added benefits. Capers and vinegar foods like pickles or sauerkraut help the pancreas. For thousands of years before refridgeration we preserved and ate fermented foods. Kefir, kimchi....
That is exactly what I do . Drink about 2 litres of water from the fridge topped off with pure lemon juice. Totally refreshing and I feel the better for it. First thing in the morning, I take a small glass of water with a capful of Cider apple vinegar. About 20 mins before my breakfast.
There are studies that show cold water slows down or can all together make the absorption stop to a point of no benefit. Room temp is always best. Even on hot days cold water is bad. @@jamesmarshall3311
I would if they were not poisoned with all sorts of chemicals.. They inject them with a weird blend to make them mature faster, while they afterwards spray them with chemicals so they stay fresh longer, absolute crazy..
@@jamesmarshall3311just be careful with all the acid a d your teeth
I agree- I do find it a bit disturbing that there was no mention in this video about truly "whole" food sources of vitamin C... I mean, the video is called "we finally know what type of vitamin C is best" NOT "...vitamin C SUPPLEMENT" is best. So they really should have included whole foods sources given that title.
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I don't take Vitamin C, but I eat enough fruits and vegetables that has vitamin c on them, so to me this has been the best way to get my vitamins, blood work shows all in check! :)
Natural is always best. I remember a biology teacher telling our class that if natural and synthetic nutrients are both available, the body will always choose natural first. It's how humans have survived throughout history. Also, how much can we trust modern manufacturers with our health?
@@WildberryABexactly our body has been adapted by evolution to absorb natural vitamin the best
Same here... I do find it a bit disturbing that there was no mention in this video about truly "whole" food sources of vitamin C... I mean, the video is called "we finally know what type of vitamin C is best" NOT "...vitamin C SUPPLEMENT" is best. So they really should have included whole foods sources given that title.
@rryAB Correction: As per the argument you're actually trying to make, "WHOLE FOOD sources" are best. Remember, as a solo molecule, the vitamin C molecule is "natural" no matter where it is, BUT what counts are the OTHER molecules coming WITH it (or not). Those other molecules help the body to actually USE the vitamin C (or not, if they are not there).
@titan1719 Correction: As per the argument they're actually trying to make, "WHOLE FOOD sources" are best. Remember, as a solo molecule, the vitamin C molecule is "natural" no matter where it is, BUT what counts are the OTHER molecules coming WITH it (or not). Those other molecules help the body to actually USE the vitamin C (or not, if they are not there).
Something to be aware of is (if I’m not mistaken) glucose and vit c compete for absorption. So maybe take vit c on an empty stomach, while eating fats, proteins or on the lower carb spectrum.
PS- Sauerkraut is a very good source of food grade vit c as well.
Personally I take organic camu camu.
Osmo liposomal
Factoid - Red cabbage unpasteurized sauerkraut has much more vitamin C content than green cabbage.
but i was told to eat lemon with carbs, it helps lower the insulin and helps with digestion
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No they do not compete.
I appreciate that you find a use for all forms of vitamin C, and are not dogmatic about things.
I do find it a bit disturbing that there was no mention in this video about truly "whole" food sources of vitamin C... I mean, the video is called "we finally know what type of vitamin C is best" NOT "...vitamin C SUPPLEMENT" is best. So they really should have included whole foods sources given that title.
Yes, very helpful video
I used to take ascorbic acid and liposomal but now I am taking whole food
Any difference?
@@PatroliHoax less issues with whole food C, no upset stomach and it still does the job a little slower. Liposomal is too expensive, you should only use it in emergencies like pneumonia.
Liposomal ascorbic vitamin c still has a place in your nutritional arsenal. I’ve heard that its breakdown creates hydrogen peroxide in the body which is very powerful against viruses and infections…so much so that some doctors give hydrogen peroxide via a direct drip when people have severe bacterial infections.
The best way is to definitely take the whole food vitamin C on a daily basis, but keep some liposomal sachets in your fridge for influenza or infection emergencies…and the liposomal is far superior to any other form of ascorbic acid. 🙂💕👍🏻
@@trappedinroom1014 hey, have you tried oregano oil, gotta dilute it in oil first but wow, sure works wonders
I'm a big fan of kiwis, which have a pretty good amount of C. Also lots of potassium and other nutrients.
Careful with those kidneys
Super tasty but high in oxalates. You can actually feel them on your tongue. Under a microscope they are very sharp dagger crystals.
@@katcat5088
I just looked at a long list of foods that contain oxalates and how much. Kiwi's are low-moderate in it.
Things like spinach, rhubarb, okra, and to a lesser extent some nuts and seeds (like almonds, cashews, etc) and certain grains/pseudo grain foods like rice bran and buckwheat are *considerably* higher in oxalates than kiwis. We're talking 16 mg per serving vs anywhere from 200 to 1500 mg per serving.
Not worried about it at all, especially since I have a diet moderately high in oxalates (because I eat almonds and cashews somewhat regularly, and a lot of legumes like lentils) and I haven't even had a hint of kidney stones in my some 4 and a half decades.
Thankfully I don't like spinach, rhubarb, and okra, so I'm not getting super high levels of it. This issue really is overblown, unless you are eating a ton of the former (spinach etc). I also regularly fast with lime or lemon juice water which is very good at cleansing the kidneys and helping to break up potential kidney stones.
Often people who over worry about oxalates are either into keto and/or carnivore, which is ironic because these are often eating a lot of animal foods which have high levels of pesticide residues, especially in the fattier foods like butter (animals are bioaccumulators of toxins, the huge majority of which get stored in their fat). I'm A LOT more concerned with things like glyphosate than oxalates. Our bodies evolved along side and eating plenty of oxalates--but not things like glyphosate (which wrecks the intestinal lining, among other issues).
Hope it’s organic or will be full of poisonous chemical sprays.
@@JJ-jl1ge Yeah so "full of". 🙄🤣
Nothing compared to both organic and especially non organic animal products. Animals live significantly longer than plants and consume, many, many plants, and bio accumulate whatever exogenous residues on the plants.
But yeah, I happen to buy the organic ones, but honestly I don't think there is a huge difference.
Allergies are another thing to consider when deciding on whole food vs synthetic supplements.
Agree. When my immune system is down, my intolerances come back - generally yeast and alcohol - and a lot of supplements use fermentation or alcohol (including herbs) in the manufacturing process (even if not declared as an ingredient). Generally sorting out my gut mocrobiome and giving that a boost helps.
Let me tell all of you: you don't need extra vitamin C on a normal diet... It is one of the commonest vitamins and almost nobody is deficient. Don't lose your money, eat oranges from time to time... Or red bell pepper
An orange does not get rid of a sore throat in 20 minutes. Vit C is helpful in the medicine cabinet. And larger doses sorted out choroiditis in my right eye, saved my vision and avoided treatment with steroids. 20 years later, I still have healthy vision and no vascularisation which is the usual prognosis. Agree that normally we get enough vit C - in spite of poor soil leading to lower vitamin and mineral content than 50 years ago.@@Hansulf
I'm allergic, you are right
The real issue is, the synthetic C needs to be the L-ascorbic acid {natural} form, not the D-ascorbic acid {synthetic} form, which is cheap and what most companies use, usually a blend of D and L form. There are plenty of scientific studies showing the cells need to be replete in ascorbate, which will not happen with so called whole food vitamin C. Copper and ceruloplasmin are not depleted until very high doses of ascorbic acid are used, nobody mentions that, and if you have studies to prove otherwise, share them, I need more than your opinion. Using a good fully buffered, pharmaceutical-grade {or better} L-ascorbate vitamin C product that has been tested for contaminants, is absolutely a healthy supplement to include in your regimen. Mega dosing is not required. And remember, if you are eating a good diet, you are getting some whole food C already, and all you need to do is add to it with a proper C supplement.
I'm slightly confused by your commend, with respect. You stated:
"There are plenty of scientific studies showing the cells need to be replete in ascorbate, which will not happen with so called whole food vitamin C."
Then stated, "Mega dosing is not required...if you are eating a good diet, you are getting some whole food C already". It sounds like to me, with respect, contradictory. First you state your cells won't be replete with ascorbate with whole foods vitamin C then say if you eat a good diet you have lots of whole-food vitamin c and it feels like you were implying ...this kind of sufficient? How is it sufficient if it does not replete your cells with ascorbate?
@@MathTutorVideos the studies that I had seen presented by Dr. Jaffee showed that it took more ascorbate than what a standard diet provides to give the cells what they need, according to the science he presented. When I refer to 'mega dosing', I was talking about 10-20 grams/day, Linus Pauling style. ua-cam.com/video/TM_z-cMYplc/v-deo.html
Personally, due to the way food is prepared, shipped, heated and cooked, etc., I would not rely on whole foods to give my system the ascorbate that the body needs. It has been shown that even fresh food is deplete of vitamin C, since most fruit, vegetables, etc. are not ripened properly, and then what they have gets depleted in storage, shipping , and age. I don't think large mega doses are necessary unless you are fighting something. But a gram or two {not found in a day's food supply} of a clean, buffered ascorbate will give the cells what they need, without putting the body into an oxidative state. I am not a scientist, this is just the way I see it, currently. Whole foods may be 'enough', but not 'optimal'.
The study I'm referring to used 600mg and showed an average decrease of 20% in ceruloplasmin activity (link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3694287/).
Whether you should go with AA or whole food C comes down to your individual nutrient levels and what you want to achieve. So it's impossible to say without knowing who you are talking to.
@@felix-harder Interesting. what they don't investigate is, when something lowers or raises something, does it normalize? For instance, something may cause an increase in prolactin, but then the body normalizes it after a while. Some things can raise blood pressure, but raising it is not as important as if it stays raised. So, my question would be, what ceruloplasmin levels do their' tests represent, ceruloplasmin just after taking the AA, or ceruloplasmin hours later, etc. Levels of protein carriers, hormones, enzymes, etc. can be affected spontaneously or chronically, and should be tested to verify. If something you consume changes something in your serum, how long does that last, and is it fair to say that something is overall high or low, if it is a short lived response to something. Many of these studies are missing key factors in drawing conclusions. Something I am curious about.
Can you clarify what the sentence below is implying? Cells need to be replete in ascorbate in order for what to happen?
"There are plenty of scientific studies showing the cells need to be replete in ascorbate..."
I drink 1/2 of a lemon squeezed in a glass of water every day.
Great info as always. The one question I have about anything labeled "from whole food souces" is "What about pesticide residues, are these eliminated during the manufacturing process?" To me "from whole food souces" is a misnomer if "whole" includes pesticide /herbicide residues. I buy organic whenever I can as there is a taste difference. I suspect that there's also a difference in any vitamin derived ftom non-organic produce as well.
Buy some Organic Amla, tastes awful though.
There is no difference, your body is exposed to more toxins just breathing air than the amount that could potentially end up in a small capsule from any food source.
When they process fruit to make into powders the pesticides go up through the machine piping. Watched it on TV.
@@jasperine141 Why would the machine contain pesticides, lol.
@@1bullneck1
I don’t think he’s saying that machines contain pesticides. I believe pesticides would increase when moisture and fibers are eliminated during processing therefore concentrating the remaining components.
Linus Pauling made a convincing argument when he appeared on the Phil Donahue show (yeah, I'm old). Briefly, he said we lost the ability to produce it ourselves when we were eating a lot more fruit, but that other mammals which are similar in weight, like a goat, produce fifteen grams per day. He said if we consume that much it would be converted into other things we can use. He also warned that abrupt cessation would cause one to catch a cold or be more likely to get sick so we should taper off.
I followed his advice for a couple of years back in the 80's with no ill effects, "that I know of." I did catch a cold when I quit without tapering off, and did not catch any colds while using it (I don't think that proved anything).
I have always wondered if his claims were sufficiently researched, proven or debunked. However, I never looked into it.
For the last twelve years I've just tried to eat from each of the color categories of vegetables to get a variety of phyto-nutrients, consume at least half a cup of beans or tofu for protein and supplement sometimes with calcium citrate, K and D. I don't think I eat especially healthy as I'm eating sugar, ice cream and alcohol in moderate amounts.
Doctor on a YT reported that people on carnivore diet need only 3% as much vitamin C. Amazing to me. Wonder how that fits in with nature's carnivores like dogs and cats.
Linus Pauling double Nobel Price winner….what he said about it C was proven right except on a big study where the researchers didn’t follow Dr Pauling method and obviously the results were not as expected ..until today that research is used to “debunk VIT C” power.
Yeah, Linus Pauling was a big advocate of taking mega dose of vitamin C, and published Vitamin C and the Common Cold (1970), also Cancer and Vitamin C (1981). Unfortunately, he also died of prostate cancer at the ripe old age of 93. Compare and contrast Linus Pauling with Warren Buffett who drinks Coca-Cola daily, eats breakfast at McDonald's and routinely plays Bridge for his exercise, also 93 years old was diagnosed with stage 1 prostate cancer in 2012 for which he received radiation treatment and as of the current date still alive and well, although he may wear Depends now. The people commenting here are probably into astrology, new age medicine, crystal healing stones, aromatherapy, veganism, etc. There is no Fountain of Youth and 62 will never be the new 25.
Excellent video! Thank you. Funny how anything synthetic has a downside. Natural is always best! 🍊
Great breakdown. A+ in my opinion. I would like to point out that if buffering is not important for any given person, the magnesium form could make sense. After all, stomach acid is stronger than vitamin C. So just take it with a meal and you're fine. But if your body's magnesium is low versus calcium, then I would use the magnesium form.
@@oldie4210how so?
@@oldie4210what does low magnesium have to do with copper
an for ppl with weak stomach, just take c+rutine which have greater regeneration effect on tissues and it's less acid. and still cheap even you have 50% absorption rate it's still better choice than 10x more expensive one with 90%. Aloso Zinc is important in regeneration process(colagen forming). And we need to remeber that our body dispose vit c with 50% every 2h, so there is no point to take maga dose (which can potentialy hurt stomach) when you need take in steady tempo small dose through day
the most excellent presentation on vitamin C - thanks and well done
Amazing! This is by far the most thorough comparison of VitC I have discovered.
Knowledge is power in vitamins to.
Speed @1.25 or sleepy time.
Anyway, that was very interesting and informative, though twice as long as it needed to be. You told us the "what" then the "why" then gave an example.
I like how balanced and informed your thoughts are. Thank you for making this.
The most important is IV vitamin C 25k - 75K mg. Remarkable effect on sepsis , MRSA , Covid , and most bacterial, viral and fungal conditions and...cancer.
How do i get that? I know someone suffering from cancer
They don’t need it I/V just add vitamin C to diet make sure is getting enough nutrients from food & enough vitD from sun or add vitamin! Also check the drug Fenbendazol which is known to kill cancer cells ( also works on dogs as it’s a dog wormer called Panacur 🤷♀️😉) also search info online on other natiral foods that kill cancer 🤞🙏
But the High dose of Vit C is synthetic Ascorbic Acid
@sumc633 from what I've researched the iv dose vit c is from sodium ascorbate
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Wow! A very knowledgeable and comprehensive analysis of this very relevant question many of us have when we are trying to get a handle on our personal health.
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One could argue against that the natural and synthetic vitamin C molecule is the same, as in nature vitamin C forms complexes which means it is an entirely different molecule that could have different properties (yes, that is mostly until the molecule gets broken apart again but upto that point this changes the bioavailability and how it is transported in the gut) -
one of my favorite examples of this is the ascorbigen molecule that is formed in cabbages and the content of which increases in fermented cabbages. It is formed by its precursor glucobrassicin. Glucobrassicin is enzymatically hydrolyzed to indole-3-carbinol, which in turn reacts with l-ascorbic acid ending up as ascorbigen.
For same molar amounts, ascorbigen is more effective in the body compared to ascorbic acid alone. The indole parts of the molecule probably add their benefits.
Mainly about bioavailablity though. Because the molecule breaks down in the gut if I remember correctly - but you can confirm this further Felix.
Anyway, interesting topic, good video!!
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oh lol, I watched the video a bit further and there was ascorbigen already.. lol. Never mind.
Your video quality is hard to beat.
What's the obsession with these forms? Fruit and vegetables have plenty of the real deal.
@@sblijheidonly if you're healthy already. If you suffered for over 40s years with a wheat intolerance, and told the doctor all your symptoms only to have them tell you you're making it up then you have a lot of gut issues that takes years to correct and malabsorption of vitamin and minerals is a major problem
I couldn't afford much in the way of fresh fruit and vegetables on a steady basis, for a long time in my life. But occasionally I could afford bottle of vitamins.
Vitamin C is one of those things I really needed. I would have preferred the whole foods, but synthetic was the best I could do.
@@lizh1988 Nice!
Sadly I live in Sweden where the central authority on what is allowed and not says that testing for copper "has no medicinal value" and is therefore not done here. Through research I have established that getting a test for copper probably would help me quite a lot in knowing how to move forward, but it's simply too expensive to order from abroad.
You can probably send a hair sample to a foreign lab for testing. Just look online. Cheers.
Search the “Oligo Scan Test”, one advanced tecnology to dose minerals and vitamins, and tox metals;)
@@Paul_Palma Thank you for this tip.
They wouldn't even give me a blood test for my iron levels despite massive health issues. Swedish healthcare is an absolute joke. Absolutely horrible guidelines and also the quality of the doctors you get is.... Well... Very very low.
Don't accept government control over health care decisions. Sweden is in steep decline.
Thanks for this nuanced video. Liposomal vit C for my next flu!!
Guava has a lot of vitamin C per single Guava, I prefer the Egyptian variety
Another vitamin C hack common between Egypt and India is to blend limes with rind on in a blender then use the colander to grt the pure juice. Add whatever sweetner you like during blending
Yep, there's more vit c in the rind than anywhere in the fruit. Best to lightly peel or scrub the surface skin.
Red peppers have more vit C than oranges. Also, kiwis are pretty high in vit C.
And sauerkraut has more than you have all described
My alternative doctor told me to use only Natural Vitamin C. He told me to throw away my absorbic acid Vitamin c. So, every day I have a variety of kiwi, oranges, lemons, sour kraut, Camu Camu, black berries, raspberries, guava juice ( guava, IF I can find it), parsley, Brussels sprouts, through out the day.
@@greghilbers4697 Most vit c supplements lack the extras which come with berries, lemons, etc. Nothing works in isolation, it's all about what triggers what and in which way.
I take Camu Camu capsules for Vitamin C supplementation. Camu Camu fruit have higher Vitamin C content than any other known food.
Kakadu plums
The Kakadu plum (Terminalia ferdinandiana) is an Australian native superfood containing 100 times more vitamin C than oranges. It has the highest known concentration of vitamin C of any food, containing up to 2,907 mg per 100 grams (g) (camu camu is about 2145 per 100 grams). Just one plum (about 15 g) packs 436 mg of vitamin C, which is 484% of the DV.
That's interesting! I'll check to see if they are available for purchase online.
Isn't Amla higher?
@@or6144: Amla is great, but I've read that Camu has higher Vitamin C content than Amla. Currently, I'm taking Rose Hips for their Vitamin C content because I like to vary the program. :-)
As always -priceless information. Thank you Felix🕊
This was perfect! I agree super dosing is not the way to go. Very well done and informative.
Super dosing of any synthetic vitamin not recommended by most health care professionals . Thanks for the reminder.
Dr Klenner cured all his polio patients during an epidemic with intravenous vitamin C injections, this isn't something to dismiss if you are sick. Vitamin C has direct antiviral properties
I buy a bag of lemons and squeeze every bit of juice I can from them I then fill an ice cube tray with the juice and freeze…… drop two cubes in my large water tumbler daily.. sometimes I might put a drop of ACV with it.
I find taking ascorbic acid mixed with magnesium bicarbonate works great for me. My daughter who have a very sensitive stomach have to take the liposomal vitamin C which cost over $40 dollars for a box containing 30 packets. I'm cheap and tolerate ascorbic acid with magnesium bicarbonate well and it keeps me more regular so I like it better.
You can also try Ester C, which is non acidic vitamin C. It is Calcium Ascorbate, which is easy on the stomach.
it keeps you regular?
@@94jmh my bowel movements 😁
Which brand
Excellent vid info and production. I especially appreciate your precise diction. Thank you!
Nothing is better than daily freshly squeezed lemon juice.
Everyone around me at work constantly sick. I haven't had anything.
Lime.
Easy & natiral prevention is always better than any chemical cure 😎
I bet they all run to the pharmacy for man made chemical cures like lemsip 🤣
Fantastic video. Straight to the point and packed full of information but still respecting the viewer's time. Appreciated.
parsley has a lot of vitamin C and is really easy to grow yourself in a small garden or herb box.
Very helpful, I’ve been confused for years over which type to take - even the experts advice differs
Nice info. What about time released vitamin C forms though ? Because the levels quickly go down again in the body (within 3 hours or so).
Thanks for the informative video - can you consider doing another video focusing on those time-released vitamin C and which one is better?
Excellent summary. Much appreciated! Thank you for sharing this.
In the end, which is better? Natural or synthetic vitamin C?
Another very informative video, thanks Felix.
Also take vitamin E with vitamin C. In the mornings.
That doesn’t make sense, I think, as Vitamin E is fat soluble and Vitamin C is water soluble.
@@Inisfad Hi, vitamin C is a water-soluble antioxidant and can directly quench free radicals in aqueous milieu (including within cells), but [presumably in cell environment] may also recycle vitamin E and other antioxidants by returning them to a reduced state, and thereby suppress oxidative damage. Read more: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7844109/
In conclusion: they are routinely taken together and I have read somewhere that they should be taken together in the mornings. When I find the article on my hdd, I will post link here.
I use synthetic but also "blend" whole lemons, make it into lemon ice cubes, and add a couple to an apple cider/turmeric/ginger/moringa/cinnamon tea.
Imagine talking about Vitamin C and not reading and referencing 2xNobel winner and father of orthomolecular medicine, Linus Pauling, who wrote a whole book on the subject. Decent information provided otherwise.
Imagine what genetically modified foods are doing to us.
The most natural way to obain vitamin C is to eat foods high in vitamin C. If that food is a fruit, always eat the fruit on an empty stomach and allow around 60 minutes for that fruit to digest and leave the stomach before eating any other food. Also, if eating high carb fruits cause blood glucose to spike, it is best to eat a limited amount of high carb fruits at one time.
Why need to eat the fruit on an empty stomach?. Why not eat the fruit with other food?. Is there any scientific study suggesting this?
Mostly agree except that most fruit digests pretty quickly. It is the most quickly digesting whole food category.
20 to 30 minutes is more reasonable. There are exceptions, like high-fat avocado.
I love this video and the time and research you put into the presentation. The only thing you missed, which I was eager to see comparisons on is Vitamin C from freshly squeezed or eaten citrus or plant based versions of intake, and absorption and what’s needed for fighting germs?
Good question, though it might be impossible to do given our soil and farming practices-you’d definitely reap more vitamins and minerals choosing organic food options.
One way is to eat the whole lemon, not its juice.
I feel like each video is an education in itself. Im taking notes at the recap
I take both vit c from fruits and vegetables and vit c from supplements. Win win 🗿
Sea Buckthorn- not from concentrate is the excellent source of vit C. Thank you for your videos. I am always learning something from you.
One quarter of a yellow bell pepper or half a red one is a full adult dose of Vit C….Sauerkraut is even better if you like it, but bell peppers have low flavour so you can eat them even if you are not a vegge person.
I've been taking Ascorbic Acid 1g megadose for a while and developed some kidney stones. I thought it's not vit C because I've been hydrated well, but then I stopped it just in case. Kidney stone gone after another ultrasound, and so I resume taking it again at 500mg this time. And then developed kidney stone again. I looked it up and I learned that I'm part of the small unfortunate population with this kind of reaction to vit c. I stopped taking it and took Zinc instead ever since.
i don’t get why so many take ascorbic acid instead of buffered calcium ascorbate
@@JensVanDeAarde Calcium may also lead to kidney stones you know. Calcification.
I have been taking 16-20 grams of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) for literally decades. Maybe it depends on a genetic predisposition if one is susceptible to getting kidney stones.
@@awtzzzzzzz2151 so why did he get kidney stones with ascorbic acid?
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and calcium ascorbate is better absorbed by the body and won’t cause reflux or such phenomena
Thanks for the assessment/analysis: 2 Questions:
1. What about Time-release Vitamin C (usually Ascorbic Acid w or w/o bioflavonoids)?
2. I have seen liposomal Vit C (in capsules) that is definitely not a gel/liquid , but looks more like powder. How is this possible?
The best vitamin C form is DHAA, which is 1000x more absorbable by the body than glucose, which is many times more absorbable than ascorbic acid and outcompetes its uptake. In spite of what is said, this form is plentiful in meat, making fresh meat the best possible source of ABSORBABLE vitamin C.
Nonsense
@@InsolentVillager I think you misunderstood the OP. he's talking about dehydroascorbic acid, not docosahexaenoic acid
@@InsolentVillager then you probably know much more than me about it. would you mind explaining how omega-3 fatty acids as DHA/EPA are/become ascorbic acid?
@@InsolentVillager my apologies, I was actually looking up 'how to get rid of trolls' and it never occurred to me to look up your claim. you really don't differentiate between dehydroascorbic acid and docosahexaenoic acid, do you?
@@InsolentVillager okay, try searching for the term 'dyslexia'.
thank you for the pleasant conversation. have a great rest of your day.
Thank you for totally explaining all the vitamin C’s the pros and cons. I now understand what I’m looking at and what I’m buying when looking for vitamin C.
I believe co factors are extremely important as the co factors help with the body's absorption of the nutrient.
The studies on this are interesting. It seems up to a point there isn't much difference.
Studies do not back up your beliefs
But that's exactly the statement that needs more research...
I am reminded of a young Murican I met in Nairobi many years ago. He commented that I was not taking my vEYEtamins. I commented that I got my vitamins from my food. Shortly afterwards, I heard him phoning his mother to tell her about this great new idea of putting vEYEtamins in the food!
High doses of pure ascorbic acid powder is amazing to use against a lot of conditions. No more cold, influenza or virus infections for days or weeks. With 10-20 grams pr day it’s gone in 1 day depending on getting started treating fast enough, no later than right after symptoms are getting bad. Add some D-mannose, and UTI is also gone in 24-48 hours. It’s a huge advantage to avoid antibiotics.
Wait what? From "No more cold, influenza or virus infection" - all of three are virus infections - to "It’s a huge advantage to avoid antibiotics"... Huh?
Please don't take any antibiotics if you have a virus infection. They are made to kill bacteria, not viruses. Antibiotics won't help you with the infection and will f up your colon.
This is complete nonsense.
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter, PROOF IT.
@@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter Vitamin C is inexpensive, safe and effective. Read what scientists and doctors have written over the last 100 years:--
Steve Hickey and Hilary Roberts, Ascorbate: The Science of Vitamin C (Morrisville, NC: Lulu, 2004)
Irwin Stone, The Healing Factor: Vitamin C Against Disease (New York: Grosset & Dunlap, 1974).
Linus Pauling, How to Live Longer and Feel Better (New York: W H Freeman & Co, 1986).
Linus Pauling and Linus Pauling, Vitamin C, The Common Cold, and the Flu (San Francisco: W. H. Freeman, 1976).
Thomas E. Levy, Primal Panacea (NV: Henderson, NV: MedFox Pub, 2011).
Thomas E Levy, Curing the Incurable - Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases, and Toxins (Henderson, Nev.: MedFox Publishing, 2011).
Steve Hickey and Andrew W. Saul, Vitamin C: The Real Story: The Remarkable and Controversial Healing Factor (Laguna Beach, CA: Basic Health Publications, 2008).
pls check ur kidneys as with such overdose you make them overwork a lot.
superdose is 1 gr during 1 week is considered enormous dose and given by doctors exactly with the purpose you described.
but it s,1 gr, not 10-20
I cant believe how good your videos are. I was also suspicious about ascorbic acid because its made of corn. And it gave me side affects like too bad fatique. Its like all my energy leaves my body. I cant even sit. I have to lay down. I never recommend ascorbic acid made of corn. I tried different brands. Both gave me fatique and dizziness at night.
I eat two red bell peppers a day for my vitamin c, plus their supposed to have a bunch of other vitamins as well. :)
Peppers are generally heavily sprayed with nasty chemicals. Go organic, if possible.
I Take Amla (Himalayan Brand) no ascorbic acid. Natural from gooseberries.
Thank you for your detailed research, Felix. 👍
In the end, which is better? Natural or synthetic vitamin C?
I'm nearly 30 and have been taking ascorbic acid for around 15 years. I have not taken any OTC or prescription medicines in that time either, so I believe that vitamin C actually works. I take the powder version since it is cheapest and lacks any additional ingredients. Generally, I take 2,000mg daily.
When I get sick from time to time, I have found for me that taking closer to 10,000mg (or more) spread throughout the day (something like 1,000mg every hour or so) helps me to overcome any sickness I've ever had. Also, gargling salt water when I have a sore throat, breathing in some peppermint oil to alleviate the pain of the sore throat, and blowing my nose a ton when I'm sick are other things I do alongside the vitamin C.
Anyway, I hope this information is helpful to someone who reads it. Either way, I'm going to keep taking my vitamin C.
If you've never got sick enough to need prescription meds, you cannot know whether it's vitamin C, or just natural immunity.
@Lee-pf6od Thank you for your response. Just to clarify, in case I wasn't clear, I have been sick enough to where most people would get a prescription to treat it. But, taking vitamin C has always worked for me (so far). I believe my immune system is not any better than average, but I do think it is boosted a good amount when I increase the vitamin C dose to what I previously mentioned. You're right that I can't know with 100% certainty that the vitamin C is working. It's just anecdotal evidence. Nonetheless, it appears to work consistently for me all these years.
If you don't mind me asking, does supplementing with vitamin C work for you, or do you not notice much of a difference?
that was great, thank you. Im also interested in vitamin C used topically as an antioxidant. Could you please cover the various types used on skin?
also you did'nt explain the pictures in the thumbnail. The synthetic photo looks scary!
That's a whole other field right there. Look up dermatologists going through the diff kinds of topical vitamin c. Ascorbic acid is the most popular but highly unstable on the shelf without proper formulation. There are others that are less effective, at least not as quick to act, but there are also some newer varieties that are more promising.
Your voice is so soothing ❤. I prefer Vitamin C from citrus.
A good informative video overall. Thanks! I subscribed.
FWIW: One small acerola fruit the size of a marble has 20x the vitamin C of one orange.
It's not always a purgative just because a product is "made in a lab" - a good example is benfotiamine, as it is considered by most in the Low Carb Community (like Dr Eric Berg or Dr Sten Ekberg) to be much better and easier to absorb than just plain B-1. That said, the whole food meat alternatives (fish) are better (most nut sources don't have a very bio-available B1, also contain lectins, excess omega 6, and have nutrient blockers like oxalates).
Watch out with the claims on blockers. These tests are done with sythetic versions and they do not behave as the natural ones.
Benfotiamine sadly, criminally missing from every vitamin table in the world. I have a benfo fact page of text in my phone so if I meet a diabetic they can instantly photograph it without social entanglement and research it themselves. Had spectacular success with a dying diabetic with feet rotting off, his eyesight failing and extreme fatigue and peripheral nerve pain and doctors were billing him 500 a week to say there is nothing we can do for diabetic neuropathy ,you will die soon. There there. I made the first YT videos about Benfo B years ago just to establish the keywords and 8 years later today many rebel doctors are preaching that every diabetic should be on Benfo.
For some reason I was expecting a straight and clear winner and I finally realized that good science cannot give you a real straight answer, just guidelines. Seems like you're doing your homework right!
There is no way this needed to be a 17 minute video. I couldn’t take it
I speed it up.
Will try the liposomal version. Video helpful. I need to stay away from copper reduction. Cheers !
What about natural Vitamin C capsules from rose hips & other plants high in natural Vitamin C?
Also falls under "whole food supplements" mentioned in the video :)
Excellent narration wonderful voice...
I take Life Extension brand liposomal vitamin c. 60 tablets for $25
Love your time stamps and outlines man great work
i know ascorbic acid is also known to knock iron out of ferritin and copper from ceruloplasmin. so it creates free metals which are highly stressful.
Your voice has an ASMR quality to it. 😊
I’ve gotten so much valuable information from videos put out by Suzanne Humphries and Thomas Levy.
They aren't exactly credible sources are they? They both dived off the deep end a long while ago.
Spot on
My friend. Excellent work. I appreciate your work - sometimes I've wondered if this kind of thinking and information hadn't completely disappeared from the plant. This I... I can see that you have a great deal of interest in the subject, so maybe there is a chance that you will understand me when I say this, but when I heard you speak the words "buffered Vitamin-C" I felt such joy, slow and deep, that it will last possibly for many days. That's all I can say about it. It is some truly fascinating subject matter. Is it not?
The video is good, but the thumbnail is pure clickbait!👎
Well that thumbnail capture my attention to click this video, I have learn much more about the forms of vitamin C.
I downvoted this video for that reason
Great video and presentation. I discovered it by chance but will look a more of your videos.
Thanks for sharing Felix. How much Vitamin C with Ester-C (from Solgar) to take daily?
Some specialists say 2000 mg a day is too much and others say 5000 to 6000 mg a day.
What do you suggest and see as more effective/standard?
Your presentation was very easy to listen to and informative. Your voice is pleasant.
I noticed you mentioned two whole food sources... camu camu and the other one. What do you think of Goji berries as a vitamin-c source? Does it come with good cofactors?
Also falls under the category of "whole food", so yes :)
Don’t take goji berries if you have joint pains or swelling. It’ll make it worse.
@@mytravls I was raised to eat oranges. And during the cold and flu season during winter time, I had almost no colds wow my friends at school were always sick. I was raised in the 40s and 50s. We used food, never vitamins, except cod, liver oil.
@@patriciap.9034 amazing story, thanks for sharing. I have upped by vitamin C intake too and feel my gut is doing better.
Caution on VIT C and even whole food C like limes and lemons etc… high oxalates in them over time can cause kidney stones
Vitamin C , On my breakfast smoothie I place half lemon with peel , seeds and all, on an off 4 to 5 times a week❤
Super high oxalate so it can cause kidney stones and kidney cycsts
I take Vit. C daily as sodium ascorbate stirred into my morning coffee drink along with collagen, Lugols iodine, stevia, and goat milk or A2 half n half. 🙌👍
Not a good idea. Heat destroys vitamins.
Great overview of Vitamin C, thank you Felix 👏👏✨
So the thumbnail is clickbait or did I miss something.
Definitely a clickbait thumbnail, which is why I did not give this otherwise pretty good video a thumbs up.
He addresses the thumbnail @11:38
unfortuneatley clickbait typicalky comes first before facts
I Am Aware there is Going to be a Large Responsibility when it Comes to Trusting the Studies. And High-Jacking Results..Things are Due For Clarity and Revelation when it Comes to Truth😊😊😊 Blessings
Fascinating and brilliant.
In the end, which is better? Natural or synthetic vitamin C?
Perhaps part of the issue is that the RDA of Vitamin C is 60mg. The RDA basically is the amount to ensure that you don’t get scurvy. Presumably, for actually immune enhancement, the body actually requires more than that.
Hi Felix, great information but you don't address the thumbnail used in this video. What is depicted in the thumbnail and what is the story behind it? It would be great if you addressed this as the thumbnail seems very interesting. Thanks.
@11:38
@@kimlarso That isn't the same image or subject.
Yes. We are to consume the fruit...not one isolated part.
i've had some success with sodium ascorbate, i don't take it often only for flu or infection but regular ascorbic acid seems not to work at all even in high doses
I bet you're buying tablets and not pure powder
Oh it will probably produce some salt as well, which does stack with Vitamin C for more immune strength.
Thank you for explaining all of this, I had no idea. ❤
I like Vitamin C from Acerola Cherry. Natural is always better.
I produce its.
acerola leavs s better than fruit. The challenge is how procece its letting clean all processing line.
Pomegranate juice is a great vitamin C source too .
You missed the main point altogether. Your body flushes out vitamin C fairly quickly. But to get maximum benefit, you need a constant supply of vitamin C. That means you either need to take vitamin C several times a day or take a time-release vitamin C. The latter is preferable.