▶Sponsor: Windows 10 Pro ($17) biitt.ly/kPBz6 Are you buying a new GPU deal now, or waiting for new GPUs? Thoughts on Arrow Lake? Waiting for 9000X3D CPUs? How is your PC holding up? Tell your story in a new comment below!
@@zsideswapper6718both kinda rushed their products to market when there was no need to except them shareholders want a new thing regardless if it potentially tanks the company cus always up!
I stand behind my XFX 7900XT Black I got for 650$ last year. Coming from the goat GTX 1080ti. AMD drivers are solid and I haven't had any issues from AAA, indie, modding, and emulation.
Yeah i could of spent that extra $150 but i got a 7800xt.... Its good but i know its better out there but i got to neasure the cost of upgrading and selling.
sounds great I'm still on my 1080ti but looking to do a build at the end of 2025. Depending on how this next generation of gpus goes I might just opt to get a 7900xtx instead.
For anyone with unlimited cash resources, upgrading will never be a problem as keeping up with the latest game changers won't pose a problem for those with more money than sense.
What is amazing is that the biggest manufacturers never wait to release an optimized solution. We users are perpetually beta testing software and hardware.
Really happy with my XFX Merc 7900XTX especially since I got it on sale for $789. Overall my move to AM5 has been great, ask my games load faster and perform much better
Just buy a decent OLED 4k tv and be done with it.... There is no reason to give up 4k to go to IPS when you can get a really good 48" 120 Hz 4k OLED TV for 699
HOLD OFF for now. 2 to 3 months of wait isn't gonna kill you. Especially no big AAA titles coming till next year to get great value on your GPU for 1440p or 4K. Patience will save you both money and regret.
One reason to hurry up and spend would be if you are hard into playing a certain game and just whish you could see it at 4K and high FPS. But that is a very special situation and you wouldn't really be asking if that was the case. Waiting isn't fun, but the result of waiting can be very entertaining...
If I was shopping in the 400$ to 650$ range I'd hold off for the next gen of AMD & NVidia and see what you can get. I'm huffing the copium that maybe AMD will come in with "aggressive" FPS / $ && FPS / watt. For the 800$+ range certainly hold off so you can see what NVidia has to offer. YMMV.
You know, Jason showing that he leans towards middle of the road parts when he could most likely run top of the line specs really goes to show he gets it. This channel is rapidly becoming my favorite resource and I think its due to small details like these; it definitely adds some credibility to his advice for the rest of us and its appreciated.
I find it extremely odd ppl feel the need to have the most up to date tech possible. When the improvements are so extremely tiny. Wait at least 2 generation Cycles to actually see and feel the upgrade
There are always those PC people who want live on the bleeding edge of PC tech. Been going on for decades, to the first people who bought 286 systems, then 386s, then 486s, then the first pentiums, and on and on.. Not me though, I use the same system for years. For instance, I used a Core2Duo system (and not one of the last versions of that CPU either) from Feb. 2007 through 2014.
Of course, before upgrading, you can hold on to your aging components until they become e-waste - that's one way to go. Another way is to upgrade more frequently, and defray the costs by selling your used components to bargain hunters. Both strategies have their merits, and there's no virtue to skipping product cycles.
I run at 1440p, and that’s with a 7800X3D and a 4080. I run at max settings and typically get 120+ fps. Games look fantastic, I feel no need to go to 4K. Each to their own.
Literally about 1 year 1/2 ago i built a new pc with: CPU: AMD Ryzen 5800x GPU: ASUS TUF 3080 Ti SSD: 1x Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD: 1x Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB (For Boot/Primary) MOBO: B550-F Gaming Wifi 2 PSU: Corsair RM850x AIO:Corsair 240mm Elite Capellix Hyte: Y60 Funny thing is everything was pretty much top of the line for 1440p Ultra Gaming fast forward to now...
i have a 4070 super, 12gb ram. i wanted to buy the 5080, but maybe it will be a better thing to wait until 5080 super to have more ram and enjoy that card for 4 years
Thank you so much for answering my PCIe Gen 5.0 x16 question! I'm only planning on upgrading the CPU, motherboard, RAM and cooler this year, so it's not going to affect my GPU budget. A GPU upgrade isn't planned for another 2 years or so: 2026 at the earliest, maybe even 2027. Main reason I'm upgrading is for CPU limited games like MMOs, where my 4070 is bottlenecked by my 12700 and DDR4 RAM... But I tried to keep the question short and focused on the PCIe part to avoid it sounding like a request for build advice.
ive got an old 2080 super card and ryzen 9 3900x, im looking at upgrading to a top end 5000 series gpu and possibly 98000x3d, should give me a neat boost for future games
Luckily the used value of gpus holds up extremely well. If you get a popular model of any card you want right now you will have no trouble selling it next year for maybe 100$ less.
I just got the Micro Centre Combo deal with AMD Ryzen 7 9700X, Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX v2, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 for 430 USD. I am waiting for top end RDNA4 and then will assemble it all. Hopefully the 8800 xt/x GPU will be less than 800 USD.
I know that current oled panels have some impressive features to help prevent burn-in but I'm still worried about longevity. My 4 year old phone has very minimal burn-in but a pc monitor is going to need far higher brightness and have way more time with static images/ui, even compared to a television. That said, oled seems to be too good to pass up if you've got the money to replace it after a couple years
When I changed my rig, about a year ago, I choose not to go to 1440 or 4k. I choose to have a higher refresh rate at 1080p. I was scared of when my rig gets old I wouldn't be able to keep a 4k quality, and that it would be horrible as I would be accustom with higher quality. I'm happy with it.
This is why resolution choice is important when looking at a budget for a build, as of right now, lower-mid end am4 builds still rock at 1080p, and do great at 1440 with an appropriate gpu. Running an am4 ryzen 5 or 7 with an nvidia 3060 or better(favoring 12gb models), or an amd 6700xt or better is good to go for 1080p for many years to come. One card i think will be a real winner in the used market is the 3080 12 gb, and the Ti, they offer a TON of performance for long term use, and are 4k capable today, and will be 1440 capable untill 12 gb of vram is inadequate.
@@AZusaYXThis is why i went AM4. Got myself a used 5600 and Asus tuf gaming b550 mobo and then got a RX 6750 xt for a few years of good FPS 1080p gaming. Id have to pay so much more for for a 1440p monitor that its just not worth the extra money and shorter lifespan. AM4 is still amazing for budget builds
I have been re-immersing myself into the hardware side of gaming lately. I am looking to buy a new GPU since I am currently using an RX580 still and want to switch up to 1440p from 1080p. I spent some time last summer and built a nice PC but did not do the GPU yet knowing black friday sales will be killer and I could get a much better GPU for cheaper. Thanks for the videos you upload talking about hardware and making it easy to understand for those of us who are basically weekend warriors when it comes to all of this. E.G. I have no clue WTF a Cudo Core is and I don't care either lol. But I can tell what card is better and will work before for what scenario because of your videos. Thanks for that.
Got my 7800 xt during july prime day flash sale. unfortunately, prices went back up after that until a couple of brief amd sales during october, but then they are back to not great prices since then. I'd just wait to see what happens with the next gen at this point unless black friday and boxing day has comparable deals if still looking for a gpu.
I think you should off and wait for the new generation GPUs IF you're willing to deal with the driver updates to get to a point where the majority of the problems get ironed out
Calling this intel mess mid is absolutely the bare minimum. They are still arrogant and not showing any humility. Slapping the consumers in the face with these pricing and know their past reputation with selling broken chips. $330 for a 6-core i5 with 125 base tdp, really??
For the couple hours a day/week that my PC is on power consumption is the last thing on my mind. I notice my welder making more of an impact on my electric bill over my PC.
Do you recommend offloading the windows page file to a separate ssd? I personally believe that's significantly more important for background tasks while gaming than it is to have more "E-cores" like intel has. Like having the OS on 1st ssd, then Pagefile on 2nd ssd, then a game install on a 3rd ssd would theoretically have the best performance possible. And i dont judge performance by maximum fps, but by minimum fps. Since fps limiters or vsync are determined by the lowest fps it will get to, not the highest.
Awesome Updates Jason I smashed that like button so HARD!!!! I got a Question for you... Ever Heart of the Bazzite Linux Distro? Wondering if the Era of Windows Gaming is coming to an end (I really am not liking Windows 11 using 8-10 GB of my 32 GB ram to just Idle Ok maybe Discord is running in the Background But that's about it...)... Wonder if Linux kernels being more efficient. I Use mint on a Toshiba Satellite Laptop and it uses 2 of 4 GB Ram and runs most things very smoothly witch isn't bad for a 20yr old laptop!!!... Anyway if I had more money to burn Id love to build a Bazzite PC and see if It could fulfill the role of a daily driver PC and put an end to Windows and Microsoft shenanigans. Wonder if you might know?
The "data" (not really) released by AMD promises a lot. About 5% better gaming performance and about 12% better production performance if I remember correctly. But then AMD marketing team hasn't been all that reliable when talking performance lately... Anyway I feel it will certainly match the corresponding 7000X3D processor at the least, and hopefully boost production performance making them perform close to their 9000X brothers in Cinebench and other programs pounding large data models.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 An 8 core CPU, even the 9800X3D, is not going to do very well in production /data crunching performance. Even if the 9800X3D shows a 25% improvement over the 7800X3D in multithreading, large data models, whatever...it is a 25% increase over bad. Lol.. 8 core CPUs like the 9800s are still about (surprise) half the processing power and performance of any of the 16 core processors for multicore work/production apps in general (maybe with a few minor exceptions). Take a look at CPU Benchmark for comparing multicore performance and processing power. In other words, no way the 8 core CPUs perform like their 16 core CPU brothers in Cinebench. Just not even physically possible for them to. It's like expecting a car with a 3 cylinder engine to be as fast as the same car with a 6 cylinder engine.
Great video Jason as always , the info you provide is invaluable. One of the things I have learned from you is VRAM VRAM VRAM. I am not a fan of Nvidea any longer due to how stingy they are with VRAM.I will take the FPS hit. Regards to Sarah and the kitties Take care
Instead of buying a 4090, I bought an LG C4 with motion plus. I get double the frame rate without it jeopardizing my gpu power. Games look great, and I don't notice any input delay but I'm more of a single player gamer.
Jason, I'm wanting to get on a current platform. I have an i7-12700k. Would you say it's worth it to go to am5 and either the 7800x3d or 9800x3d when it releases? Take into consideration the preformance uplift and the luxury of being on a newer platform that's longevity is much greater than Intel. I'd go with an x870 board probably too.
@@kelley09162 This is choice where I'm at. Want to upgrade from i9 9900k with 6950xt but which Ryzen AM5 CPU should I get? (Got 6950xt on deal last year microcenter just opened up nearby)
Are you starving fps vs refresh rate on your current setup? If not then no if yes, what GPU you have and what is cheaper changing all the stuff saving GPU or just changing GPU?
Jason, I don't know anything about a UPS. Can you do a best UPS buying guide video? It will be so much helpful and not so many people have done that. I commented on a video and you said you will keep that in mind. Please can you help?
This. Where I live, the power often flickers for a second or two, during storms, just enough to cause a shutdown or reboot. I really need a UPS to prevent data corruption on the ssd
Even if it seems straightforward, it would be nice to get Jason's take on them. The whole power conditioning thing, like preventing power spikes or brown outs impact on PC components, in addition to protecting during outages, has to be worthwhile, depending on your country's energy grid. The US does not have a Tier 1 energy grid in most areas compared to many countries, but it depends of course. San Francisco's and Seattle's grids are probably pretty good...lol
Hi, Jason! I love your channel! Thanks for keeping us all informed. A year a go, I didn't know diddly squat about PCs. I've learned a lot, bought my own PC, upgraded the gpu later, and have been loving everything about it. You've been a big part of that for me. So, thanks!!! Looking forward to the new GPUs and x3D chips not only to see what they can do, but for the content as well.
i have just gone on a huge shopping spree upgrading my pc it was an intel 7th gen now im getting the 9800x3d and depending on price hopefully switch my 3080 for a 5070 or 80 but the main question is will my mother board support the full power of the 5070 or will i have to change mother board (x670E tomahawk )
What motherboard is Jason using with his 7600x build? I'm running an i9 9900k with an 6950xt strictly for gaming , looking upgrade to AMD Ryzen 5 but is debating on what CPU and MB B650 combo to build with. Read reddit posts users having most issues with EVGA and Asus boards.
Think i'll save, save, save for a 5090 and get it in the future... and THEN get a 4K OLED monitor. This gives more time for new monitors to come out while I can enjoy the 5090. I'd upgrade from a 3060 ti. That would be my end game. I mainly play multiplayer games but I'd LOVE and want to get into story mode games.
I would love a OLED monitor but I refuse to pay like 600-1500$ for a monitor. Thats just insane. But yeah I would rather have a HDR OLED monitor than raytracing. More and more synthetic benchmarks are just useless to see what the REAL performance of a cpu will be in gaming or apps. Cinebench and geekbench and all the others should really rethink their entire benchmark/algorithms/tests so it reflects reality... might be hard to do I dont know but whats the point if your benchmark doesnt show real world performance??
LCD's are still significantly cheaper for sure, but I'd keep an eye out around Black Friday for some big OLD price drops. Are you looking for 1440p or 4k?
Yeah, my Display is running 15h/day so an OLED is an absolute no-go for me as I'd need to replace it every 2-3 years, and I'd rather spend that kind of money on a new GPU.
You pay for what you get. OLED imo beats any ips even mini led monitors as 2k dimming zone isnt enough compared to 4k which has over 8 million pixels which you can say are dimming zones. Save up some money and i do think its worth it when you compare them side by side and you see the horrible blooming and how it distorts the picture you will see why OLEDS do cost but are very well worth it. Even 1440p OLED @ 144hz hits over a 4k ips panel 2 different lanes
When nVidia offers a solution where the card is both an upgrade and costs less than $350, I'll probably upgrade my GTX 1080. But, the 4060 does not offer enough of a performance upgrade. Maybe they can get it right 4 generations later? Otherwise I'll continue buying from someone else who can actually produce consumer level cards.
I am disappointed in the monitor market. I have an older LG 26" ultrawide monitor. It would be cool to see more monitors in that size, or maybe once size down. I like the extra screen space, it would be cool to see something in this size with a higher refresh rate. I know it is more of a productivity monitor, not gaming, but I just don't want to feel so cut off from the room around me that a bigger monitor does and not all people have space for really large monitors. I guess I feel like companies don't believe there is a market for something so they don't make it. It took me years to bother to upgrade my monitor because companies stopped making smaller ones. If I could get better features in a smaller package I would jump at that monitor.
I am still sitting with my AMD FX8370 + 1060 amp which served me 8 years, barely running D4 and FPS games and wanting to upgrade with an up to 1800 - 2000$ budget max, problem is i am in Asia, no black friday sale. What should i get to get the same years of millage? Do i wait for next year, if yes when?
Need help on what to upgrade on my build gpu: evga xc3 ultra 3070, cpu: ryzen 7 5800X, motherboard: ASUS TUF X570, cpu cooler: corsair h100i elite LCD, ram: corsair vengance lpx 16gb x4, power supply: corsair rm850x
My gaming monitor is an LG C3 55 and 120hz a 4K native is mora than enough. My RTX 4070 Super is the card in charge for this task... what GPU do you use?!
@@PCBuilderChannel I would love to play at 4K but the going is Jason that we don't know for sure if these new GPUs are going to able to run 4K games with Maxed out setting at a consistent 100+ FPS. Quite frankly, if they can't then I'm just gonna stick to 1440p gaming.
Should I go for a 7700x maybe 9700x and 4080 super or 7800x3d and 4070 ti super I only play in 1080p 144hz rn but I will upgrade to 360hx 1440p oled I mainly play competitive games like rocket league and Overwatch 2 but might play some AAA games but I don’t cuz I am on Xbox series x
competitive games = cpu bottleneck. AAA singleplayer games = gpu bottleneck. While generally for best future proof it's better to get overkill cpu, cause switching out the gpu down the line is infinitely simpler than getting a new mobo for a new cpu which also costs a new windows registration key
I bought Acer Nitro ED1 series 27" (ED271U) monitor I will say is in the list of price per performance. I start watching your videos and being honest I sold my Ps5. I just bought a 7800x3d couple days ago in Walmart $399 + tax, a NEW ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WiFi AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard (B650EFGMWF) for $200 2 days ago. I'm still saving money to get all the parts needed to build a PC but that what I got right now. By the way thanks for all those videos that actually helped people like me.
I'm also waiting for next gen gpu's and cpu's. I was very close to replacing my current system with something like amd 7700x cpu and nvidia 4070 gpu OR building a very cheap AM5 system now and upgrade once new stuff comes out, but I am soooooo glad I decided to wait out! I have a very specific criteria for my gaming rig: I build a somewhat a better mid-end gaming system, £1500-2000 and I keep that system for as long as it can run my games at stable 60fps (mostly single players or non-competetive multiplayer). I don't need to run a game at 150+fps, but if the system can run current games at high fps, that means the system has a lot of "room" to run future games before it will start to struggle keeping them at stable 60fps. This for me turns out to be about 5-7 years without major (gpu/cpu/mbo) upgrading. Now I got core i5 6600k and nvidia 1070 gpu and it is keeping cyberpunk 2077 at fluctuating 50-80fps, world of warcraft during raiding drops down too much, so that is a sign that it is time to replace it with a new system early next year. I am looking forward to see how the rest of amd's 9000 series will turn out and what new gen gpu's will offer. Some of the 4000 series mid range gpu's already struggle to keep games above 80fps with max graphics settings? No thank you, I'll wait. As for arrow lake, it seems to me that this is a great step that intel has made. Yeah, it is buggy, sucky and definitely should have polished it better before launching. But despite that, I am excited, because I see arrow lake cpu's as intel laying down a completely new foundation to build on. I heard amd had similar problems when they first launched ryzen cpu's. If that's true, then look where they are now: completely crushing gaming market even with older gen ryzen 3D cpu's. So I am looking forward to see what intel will come up with further generations or maybe even a refresh of arrow lake if that ever happens. Fingers crossed for next gen cpu's and gpu's!
Raiding in WoW is one of the areas I've heard the most complaints from performance issues from others in Discord. For me it's very smooth on my still overkill 12900KF 4090 48gb DDR5 at 1440P. My friend has a harder time at 1440P UW. Resolution and having the 8gb vram should be enough until you upgrade, CPU would still be more important but GPU is utilized a good amount in raiding I believe. You can use FSR but that adds latency. My friend does everything 1080P with 5800X and a midrange AMD GPU I helped pick out after the crypto mining era was over. I just use P cores though I tried experimenting with both but that caused a lot of game crashes. The new Intels might be different as far as optimization. 5700X3D and 9800X3D will be coming out soon. When I went from skylake to 9600K that got rid of my stuttering and then I did the GPU later back in 2019 was getting CPU stutters in BFA during Horrific Visions. I remember having to tab out and open/close a program to unstick horrific vision of Orgrimmar at the 2-3 stutter points after interrupts that were truly mandatory. A friend of mine lost her mask run to whatever machine she had at the time choked before Garrosh. Raid is one thing I found demanding both on Windows and Linux. Would certainly play something else impressive Baldur's Gate 3 or BM: Wukong after the upgrade. It's a bit of a shame to throw an overkill machine at raiding, I think the X3Ds would also be a great candidate. 5090 does seem interesting to me, should have PCIE5 GPUs next gen.
Totally agree, if AMD GPUs get a boost in raytracing (eh...not necessary, but nice to have) and get decent raster boost at a mid range price point, that's a winner. I hope FSR will equal DLSS. I still wonder about production for a dual-use GPU though with programs being tuned to Nvidia CUDA architecture.
Just bought a 7800X3d. Wanting to build mini ITX SFF with a 5090. Guess I’m waiting on 5090 availability, possible new cases / UA-cam vids on 5090 ITX sff builds. I want small footprint on my desk with decent thermals and an AIO build. Would Consider Noctua dh15 air cooled. We’ll see!! Also hoping for Black Friday deals.
4k gaming has been around for some years now, but i still think we arent there yet. you need to pay about 3000-4000dollars to play 4k 50-80 FPS, price to performence arent there. 1440p is the sweetspot, and also it not that big of a diffrence to pay so much
Eyes on the 7900 gre (3060 ti current) for my daughter's PC, I'll be very jealous (3070 currently on mine) maybe used 7800 myself Christmas present for less jealousy without a ton of guilt
the thing about "waiting" tho is that all the holidays promos will be gone and you will only be left with full prices for some time, you need to also factor that instead of only thinking about "oh next gen is coming"
Hello Jason. Since 9800X3D will release the 7th of november. I was just wondering if you would recommend minimum a 7900 XT for that processor or even a 7900 XTX?
My understanding of ATX 3.0 vs 3.1 is that 3.1 only brings a minor revision to the 6x2 cable, but the PSU itself actually has some looser specs under 3.1. So in theory, a 3.0 PSU can be upgraded with the newest cable and be the best of both worlds. Though realistically, the 3.0 6x2 cable should be perfectly fine, if you just don't eat any crayons and plug it in all the way. If I'm mistaken on any of this information, someone please correct me.
Building a new pc right now and gathering parts, 9800x3d is a given as the cpu, am going to splurge on a asrock taichi x870e board but gpu??? Should I wait for 50 series or go with the 7900 xtx? I don’t want issues and never had a single problem with my 6800xt which was donated to my son and the AMD drivers have been rock solid. RT hasnt interested me but since I will have more horsepower now with the CPU, and possible GPU should I consider it, should I just wait, will new AMD gpu’s add anything I won’t already have. I am torn!
The way I see it the new gen will gain maybe a 8-15% boost and coming from a laptop with no discrete card NOW was the time to buy and getting the rx7900xt for $630 was a no brainer.
Off topic question for anyone that wants to answer I have a MSI B550 Gaming GEN3 Gaming Motherboard (AMD Ryzen 5000 Series, AM4, DDR4, PCIe 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, M.2, USB 3.2 Gen 1, HDMI/DVI-Port, ATX) Can I put a Gen 4 m.2 SSD like TEAMGROUP T-Force G70 PRO Aluminum Heatsink 1TB DRAM SLC Cache 3D TLC NAND NVMe InnoGrit PCIe Gen4x4 M.2 2280 Or will it bottle neck the write speeds ?
Hi Jason. For Black Friday I'm thinking about getting the 4070 Ti Super for 1440p gaming but will eventually switch to 4k. Do you think it's a good idea? Since the Rtx 5070 is coming out soon and according to rumors it will be around 26% faster than the 4070 Super thus being aroung 8% faster than the Ti Super and at a price of $600 to $700 but with 12gb Vram only.
Its hard to say at this point. That price point in particular is challenging given that $800 will probably get you something strong from AMD in early 2025. New Nvidia GPUs I'm betting will be much for expensive. So if Nvidia is the brand of choice I can see going for it over Black Friday but could go either way
I can at least give you some data points for decision-making. I've been running a 4070 Ti Super with a 7800X3D and recently transitioned from 1440p to 4k. It's a great card for doing that, and if you're okay with 4k frame rates in the 70-120 range, it will work well (I find that 90+ is where 4k really smooths out for me). It's a BEAST for 1440p and in 4k, there are only a couple of titles that I've had to use DLSS Quality, I prefer native if I can get it, and I dislike frame gen. I went with an LG 32" IPS panel for now and keeping an eye out for what happens with monitor tech, I'm not happy with where OLED is right now. From a quality standpoint, GOOD HDR is a real boon too. If you want to test, you can use DSR and render at 4k to your 1440 monitor and get some idea of your 4k frame rates. I have the clock turned up on my 4070 Ti Super, hitting 2940 MHz most of the time and within a few % of 4080 performance.
@@PCBuilderChannelwill the 5000 series also be compatible with Z690 MB's and PCIe 3 or 4? Since I remember that had something to do with compatibiliteit of components🤔
Totally agree about investing into 4k, with upscalers raipidly improving mid range GPU can manage playing in upscaled 4k. RT is still a meme for anything other than 4090, and even that only manages borderline acceptable FPS in some games. RT is just not worth it current gen.
Jason, are you completely convinced that FSR = DLSS? Can you talk more about that sometime? That seems to be one of the lasting advantages to going Nvidia and is really a big factor, especially if trying to go 4k. Isn't it? I guess if you can go up a tier in raster performance on AMD for the same $$$ premium Nvidia charges for their brand, that would be an equalizer.
NV should be making the 5060 the way it ought to be. With 12 GB GDDR6X and 60% faster than the 4060.They can sell a ton of them easily if priced competitively.
I don't think people should beta test arrow lake. At least on 12th gen you could do things to get stable, disable e cores, try turning off turbo boost, lowering ram speeds toward recommended. Honestly most people are good with a 5700X3D budget or AM5 7500F or similar X3D.
Depends... 4080 super can barely reach 70 fps in most AAA 4k raster. An rtx 3080 is still very good same with 6800xt. Linus just made a good video on old vs new.
I have tried out a 28” 4k monitor. It looks great, but I prefer my 34” 3440x1440p curved OLED better. Because Immersion. You can lose yourself in a game and leave reality behind.
I have two huge dilemmas now for my first ever build: 4070 ti super x 7900 xtx (don't want to wait for the new gens) and what ultrawide monitor to get. Can you add a section for ultrawides when you do another monitor buying guide or when you post about black friday deals? I would love to get an OLED, but I cant justify the price as I want to spend under $400 on it.
I see a World of Warcraft Pepe plushie back there. Here's to hoping you will make a gaming-rig video with WoW and other MMOs in mind? Most gaming-rig videos involve shooting games, never MMOs. I would LOVE to see you put together a build list for 1080, 1440, and 4k, to run WoW at it's best, and all at different budget levels.
Would consider an X3D build for those, 5700X3D on the cheaper end, 7800/9800X3D going more premium. Am at 1440P setup is overkill but it's smooth for raiding 12900KF 4090 48gb DDR5 (I play other games too). My friend at 1080P still is on a 5800X and midrange AMD gpu. My friend at 1440P UW has a more demanding resolution to push but only has 100 refresh he went from a 10900K 3090 sold down to a 9400 2070, not sure how that will fare if he does switch to healing evoker soon, there's a move where you sweep across the floor that can stutter after. If raiding isn't a focus or world boss/epic bgs you can get by open world with much less hardware wise, 3gb min vram on GPU, modern CPU 7500F would also work. I've been happy at 1440P since 2019 though it's more demanding than 1080P as far as CPU and GPU to run at higher settings. FSR would be a compromise at the addition of latency. I've run a gamut of hardware throughout the years in game from iGPU to my current one difference is I don't have to run FSR can do 100 percent (cranked above 100 percent easily maybe 144 when I was chilling finishing loremaster), resolution would be the main thing and activity as to what you are doing in the world/how populated it is impact FPS and how many objects there are to render in the zone. FF14 Dawntrail benchmark is also decent at giving an analysis across machines but would put CPU upgrade first always then can always upgrade the GPU later. Can also put at least 3 of the demanding settings in a row to low and lower particle effects and weather, ground detail clutter to not waste potential FPS, get more performance.
Hey Jason, hoping you or your community can help. On AM4 for 4 years, my first ever build was a 3600 and 2070 super. Find it is starting to struggle and looking to upgrade to get another 3-5 years from AM4 before upgrading to new platform. Looking at keeping my 750W PSU so was considering 1) 5700x3d, would prefer 5800x3d but can't find one and price of 5700x3d is $299 cdn 2) 7900xt currently on sale on newegg canada for $899 cdn, and 3) 2x16 3600 cl16 for $129cdn. I exclusively play at 1440p, primarily COD and Starfield, and tgt framerate to match my panels would be 165. Any advice would be appreciated as I'm struggling to decide. Other cosiderations were 4080 super and 7900xtx but I think the XTX would require a PSU upgrade as well. Thanks
Uhh, it's been some time. Fell into a WH 40k Lore Rabbit hole, and haven't paid a lot of attention to the tech space. In relation to your question. My 4070 super is doing fine, and I have no issues with my 5600x to excuse a cpu upgrade. Could use a guide in storage hygiene as my current solution is a bit all over the place with 3 drives and documents and programs in a disorganized mess
Going to 1440 from 1080, feels like a whole new world. If youre on 1080 still.....why!??!?! going to 4k from 1440 didnt feel as big of a jump for me. But i still love the pixel density and absolute lack of need of software anti-aliasing on 4k.
@hrvojemilicevic3309 Oh...you're serious aren't you? 🤣 i hope you keep gaming on a 720p 4:3 aspect ratio monitor. The rest of us will look at you and go, "dang, they are future proof" haha
Going from 900p to 1080p to 1440p. Each time i do the upgrade i try to convince myself those high res monitor will look better but no matter how i tried it never made me feel playing on my older 24 inch 1080p look bad over my new 27 inch 1440p. But with new monitor it becomes harder to drive game because of the extra pixel. Personally i still advice people to stick to 1080p.
@@arenzricodexd4409 even low tier GPUs can handle 1440p pretty easily now. If you're using modern low-mid hardware...there is zero reason to not run 1440p. People were rocking 1440p back with 900 and 1000 series GPUs easily....it's 2024..not 2010
@@dumbcow1 but many people want to keep their GPU as long as possible. One way to get that done is by keeping the resolution low such as 1080p. You can keep the gpu longer with 1080p res than 1440p.
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Breakfast with Jason!
How 'Bout Never Buy an Intel CPU Ever Again! That's my Take!
Intel isn't performing well at all. The Gen needed to save them is sinking them instead
Going for a new build. I ended up buying a 4070 Super with a 10% discount to go with my newly acquired 7800x3D. Is that a good combo ?
Didn't Realize this was a Q & A Show??
arrow lake should be called Error lake
Oh no! They walked into one.
"I AM ERROR"
Hahahaha
Error Lake vs Zen +5%
@@zsideswapper6718both kinda rushed their products to market when there was no need to except them shareholders want a new thing regardless if it potentially tanks the company cus always up!
If consumer GPUs are no longer Nvidias moneymakers, then they can afford to significantly drop prices. Wait, why are you laughing?
why would they? thwy are basically monopoly %wise in DGPU market
there is negative incentive to do that
That is great way to get yourself fined by the regulator. If nvidia do that they will be accuse to use their dominant position to harm competition.
Dude, the moneymakers are H100, H200 and will be the GB200s
@@arenzricodexd4409 It is not illegal to sell your goods at low prices...
You telling me the ftc is the reason the 4090 costs 2 grands @@arenzricodexd4409
I stand behind my XFX 7900XT Black I got for 650$ last year. Coming from the goat GTX 1080ti. AMD drivers are solid and I haven't had any issues from AAA, indie, modding, and emulation.
Yeah i could of spent that extra $150 but i got a 7800xt.... Its good but i know its better out there but i got to neasure the cost of upgrading and selling.
sounds great I'm still on my 1080ti but looking to do a build at the end of 2025. Depending on how this next generation of gpus goes I might just opt to get a 7900xtx instead.
For anyone with unlimited cash resources, upgrading will never be a problem as keeping up with the latest game changers won't pose a problem for those with more money than sense.
What is amazing is that the biggest manufacturers never wait to release an optimized solution. We users are perpetually beta testing software and hardware.
That’s everything these days cars, TVs you name it
Really happy with my XFX Merc 7900XTX especially since I got it on sale for $789. Overall my move to AM5 has been great, ask my games load faster and perform much better
That's great to hear Dark! You looking for anything in particular over Black Friday or are you all set?
Where were you able to snag that price at? Looking to make the same move around holiday sales.
Absolutely agreed with the OLED argument.
If you’re choosing between 4k IPS vs 1440p OLED, go OLED all the way. It’s a HUGE iupgrade
yawn no
Just buy a decent OLED 4k tv and be done with it.... There is no reason to give up 4k to go to IPS when you can get a really good 48" 120 Hz 4k OLED TV for 699
@@ironmaiden8450 4k IPS all the way.
4k oled is the only choice
@@Dempig42" oled tv is $700
Geez, Intel is really on a roll! Downhill.
Process problems, microcode problems, support problems, marketing problems. WTF happened to them?
Bad upper management
HOLD OFF for now. 2 to 3 months of wait isn't gonna kill you. Especially no big AAA titles coming till next year to get great value on your GPU for 1440p or 4K.
Patience will save you both money and regret.
One reason to hurry up and spend would be if you are hard into playing a certain game and just whish you could see it at 4K and high FPS. But that is a very special situation and you wouldn't really be asking if that was the case. Waiting isn't fun, but the result of waiting can be very entertaining...
for high end = hold, for budget, buy now when there's big sales, like Jason says in the video
If I was shopping in the 400$ to 650$ range I'd hold off for the next gen of AMD & NVidia and see what you can get. I'm huffing the copium that maybe AMD will come in with "aggressive" FPS / $ && FPS / watt. For the 800$+ range certainly hold off so you can see what NVidia has to offer. YMMV.
im looking toward a deal for a 4070 ti super on black friday it seems the 5000 gen will consume a lot more power and thats not for me
Yeah, i rather go OLED than 4K.... I'll get the same 1440p performance while boosting the image quality.
You know, Jason showing that he leans towards middle of the road parts when he could most likely run top of the line specs really goes to show he gets it. This channel is rapidly becoming my favorite resource and I think its due to small details like these; it definitely adds some credibility to his advice for the rest of us and its appreciated.
Preach brother
Much appreciated! Thank you so much for enjoying and supporting the channel.
I find it extremely odd ppl feel the need to have the most up to date tech possible. When the improvements are so extremely tiny. Wait at least 2 generation Cycles to actually see and feel the upgrade
Agreed - I went from an AMD Phenom X6, 8GB DDR3, and a GT9800+ GPU to an AMD 7950X3D, 64GB DDR5, 6TB of M.2, and a 4090 GPU. I waited quite some time!
Same I got the 7800 x3d after my old Intel release was 2016 but I don't know what exactly the name is
There are always those PC people who want live on the bleeding edge of PC tech. Been going on for decades, to the first people who bought 286 systems, then 386s, then 486s, then the first pentiums, and on and on.. Not me though, I use the same system for years. For instance, I used a Core2Duo system (and not one of the last versions of that CPU either) from Feb. 2007 through 2014.
Ur just a broke fein
Of course, before upgrading, you can hold on to your aging components until they become e-waste - that's one way to go. Another way is to upgrade more frequently, and defray the costs by selling your used components to bargain hunters. Both strategies have their merits, and there's no virtue to skipping product cycles.
I run at 1440p, and that’s with a 7800X3D and a 4080. I run at max settings and typically get 120+ fps. Games look fantastic, I feel no need to go to 4K. Each to their own.
clicked for that bait, stayed for the 4k vs 1440, very intersting
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching
Jason is a master baiter.
Literally about 1 year 1/2 ago i built a new pc with:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5800x
GPU: ASUS TUF 3080 Ti
SSD: 1x Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
SSD: 1x Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB (For Boot/Primary)
MOBO: B550-F Gaming Wifi 2
PSU: Corsair RM850x
AIO:Corsair 240mm Elite Capellix
Hyte: Y60
Funny thing is everything was pretty much top of the line for 1440p Ultra Gaming fast forward to now...
i have a 4070 super, 12gb ram. i wanted to buy the 5080, but maybe it will be a better thing to wait until 5080 super to have more ram and enjoy that card for 4 years
I love how Intel is the villain in the CPU story and the hero we all need in the GPU story
Thank you so much for answering my PCIe Gen 5.0 x16 question! I'm only planning on upgrading the CPU, motherboard, RAM and cooler this year, so it's not going to affect my GPU budget. A GPU upgrade isn't planned for another 2 years or so: 2026 at the earliest, maybe even 2027. Main reason I'm upgrading is for CPU limited games like MMOs, where my 4070 is bottlenecked by my 12700 and DDR4 RAM... But I tried to keep the question short and focused on the PCIe part to avoid it sounding like a request for build advice.
ive got an old 2080 super card and ryzen 9 3900x, im looking at upgrading to a top end 5000 series gpu and possibly 98000x3d, should give me a neat boost for future games
Same, I got a 7950x3d and been waiting for nvidia cards to be sensibly priced. Unfortunately didn't realize I'd be waiting this long...
Luckily the used value of gpus holds up extremely well. If you get a popular model of any card you want right now you will have no trouble selling it next year for maybe 100$ less.
I just got the Micro Centre Combo deal with AMD Ryzen 7 9700X, Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX v2, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 for 430 USD. I am waiting for top end RDNA4 and then will assemble it all. Hopefully the 8800 xt/x GPU will be less than 800 USD.
I Hope they drop pricess on the 40 series on black Friday, If a Crazy deal comes up i'll buy
I know that current oled panels have some impressive features to help prevent burn-in but I'm still worried about longevity. My 4 year old phone has very minimal burn-in but a pc monitor is going to need far higher brightness and have way more time with static images/ui, even compared to a television. That said, oled seems to be too good to pass up if you've got the money to replace it after a couple years
I have 2 T.V.'s and 5 PC monitors on 24/7 and I see zero screen "burn in".
My samsung QLED TV has a life time guarantee for no burn in. I would expect a newer OLED monitor to have some good tech behind that
When I changed my rig, about a year ago, I choose not to go to 1440 or 4k. I choose to have a higher refresh rate at 1080p. I was scared of when my rig gets old I wouldn't be able to keep a 4k quality, and that it would be horrible as I would be accustom with higher quality. I'm happy with it.
This is why resolution choice is important when looking at a budget for a build, as of right now, lower-mid end am4 builds still rock at 1080p, and do great at 1440 with an appropriate gpu.
Running an am4 ryzen 5 or 7 with an nvidia 3060 or better(favoring 12gb models), or an amd 6700xt or better is good to go for 1080p for many years to come.
One card i think will be a real winner in the used market is the 3080 12 gb, and the Ti, they offer a TON of performance for long term use, and are 4k capable today, and will be 1440 capable untill 12 gb of vram is inadequate.
@@AZusaYXThis is why i went AM4. Got myself a used 5600 and Asus tuf gaming b550 mobo and then got a RX 6750 xt for a few years of good FPS 1080p gaming.
Id have to pay so much more for for a 1440p monitor that its just not worth the extra money and shorter lifespan. AM4 is still amazing for budget builds
My friend is still happy at 1080P on 5800X. I'm at 1440P but haven't went 4K am a bit scared of upgrade creep.
I went 4K 2 years ago. Could never get to 1080 again.
@@keandrestewart41AM4 is the GOAT
I have been re-immersing myself into the hardware side of gaming lately. I am looking to buy a new GPU since I am currently using an RX580 still and want to switch up to 1440p from 1080p. I spent some time last summer and built a nice PC but did not do the GPU yet knowing black friday sales will be killer and I could get a much better GPU for cheaper.
Thanks for the videos you upload talking about hardware and making it easy to understand for those of us who are basically weekend warriors when it comes to all of this. E.G. I have no clue WTF a Cudo Core is and I don't care either lol. But I can tell what card is better and will work before for what scenario because of your videos. Thanks for that.
Nvidia is still too expensive, but if I did buy the 50 series I'd definitely wait for the latter ones with more memory.
Yah, a 5080 with 12 GB of VRAM, even DDR7, would make me laf...
Got my 7800 xt during july prime day flash sale. unfortunately, prices went back up after that until a couple of brief amd sales during october, but then they are back to not great prices since then. I'd just wait to see what happens with the next gen at this point unless black friday and boxing day has comparable deals if still looking for a gpu.
I think i´ll wait for the 70xx Series and Amd ones bevor i buy a new GPU. My 3030 is still pretty good at 1440p and FHD to be honest.
I think you should off and wait for the new generation GPUs IF you're willing to deal with the driver updates to get to a point where the majority of the problems get ironed out
Calling this intel mess mid is absolutely the bare minimum. They are still arrogant and not showing any humility. Slapping the consumers in the face with these pricing and know their past reputation with selling broken chips. $330 for a 6-core i5 with 125 base tdp, really??
Well, people keep buying it so... Same with Nvidia's garbage but at least Nvidias chips are reliable (in my experience)
Can you go over some gaming monitors as the 5090 is coming out to game on 4k. Need a new monitor :)
What would be your budget for this new Monitor?
Yay we made it to the hardware releases! Thanks for filling in the middle times!
Also got any news on 4k 27in OLEDS?
I think there will be big discounts on them over Black Friday
For the couple hours a day/week that my PC is on power consumption is the last thing on my mind. I notice my welder making more of an impact on my electric bill over my PC.
Do you recommend offloading the windows page file to a separate ssd? I personally believe that's significantly more important for background tasks while gaming than it is to have more "E-cores" like intel has. Like having the OS on 1st ssd, then Pagefile on 2nd ssd, then a game install on a 3rd ssd would theoretically have the best performance possible. And i dont judge performance by maximum fps, but by minimum fps. Since fps limiters or vsync are determined by the lowest fps it will get to, not the highest.
I don’t no but you certainly can. See our Best SSD for Gaming 2024 video for more
I can not wait for black Friday and or Cyber Monday. I need a 1440p monitor. Awesome video Jason🫡💯
Should see some great deals! Thanks Joeker, hope you are having a great weekend
@@PCBuilderChannel I hope so, this 1080p monitor I have is not doing my RX6750XT no justice. You have a great weekend too
Awesome Updates Jason I smashed that like button so HARD!!!! I got a Question for you... Ever Heart of the Bazzite Linux Distro? Wondering if the Era of Windows Gaming is coming to an end (I really am not liking Windows 11 using 8-10 GB of my 32 GB ram to just Idle Ok maybe Discord is running in the Background But that's about it...)... Wonder if Linux kernels being more efficient. I Use mint on a Toshiba Satellite Laptop and it uses 2 of 4 GB Ram and runs most things very smoothly witch isn't bad for a 20yr old laptop!!!... Anyway if I had more money to burn Id love to build a Bazzite PC and see if It could fulfill the role of a daily driver PC and put an end to Windows and Microsoft shenanigans. Wonder if you might know?
i'm waiting for the 9000x3d cpu's!!!
Hope you enjoy!!
The "data" (not really) released by AMD promises a lot. About 5% better gaming performance and about 12% better production performance if I remember correctly. But then AMD marketing team hasn't been all that reliable when talking performance lately...
Anyway I feel it will certainly match the corresponding 7000X3D processor at the least, and hopefully boost production performance making them perform close to their 9000X brothers in Cinebench and other programs pounding large data models.
@@blahorgaslisk7763it’s 8% and 15% from amd so probably the 5% and 12% are the reality?
@@blahorgaslisk7763 An 8 core CPU, even the 9800X3D, is not going to do very well in production /data crunching performance. Even if the 9800X3D shows a 25% improvement over the 7800X3D in multithreading, large data models, whatever...it is a 25% increase over bad. Lol..
8 core CPUs like the 9800s are still about (surprise) half the processing power and performance of any of the 16 core processors for multicore work/production apps in general (maybe with a few minor exceptions). Take a look at CPU Benchmark for comparing multicore performance and processing power. In other words, no way the 8 core CPUs perform like their 16 core CPU brothers in Cinebench. Just not even physically possible for them to. It's like expecting a car with a 3 cylinder engine to be as fast as the same car with a 6 cylinder engine.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 they are out now, and totally dominating charts, easily 20% uplift from 7800X3D.
Great video Jason as always , the info you provide is invaluable. One of the things I have learned from you is VRAM VRAM VRAM. I am not a fan of Nvidea any longer due to how stingy they are with VRAM.I will take the FPS hit. Regards to Sarah and the kitties Take care
Thanks again Rand!!
Instead of buying a 4090, I bought an LG C4 with motion plus. I get double the frame rate without it jeopardizing my gpu power. Games look great, and I don't notice any input delay but I'm more of a single player gamer.
Jason, I'm wanting to get on a current platform. I have an i7-12700k. Would you say it's worth it to go to am5 and either the 7800x3d or 9800x3d when it releases? Take into consideration the preformance uplift and the luxury of being on a newer platform that's longevity is much greater than Intel. I'd go with an x870 board probably too.
I would choose AM5 over Intel but whether or not I'd recommend a X3D CPU depends on what your GPU is.
@@kelley09162 This is choice where I'm at. Want to upgrade from i9 9900k with 6950xt but which Ryzen AM5 CPU should I get? (Got 6950xt on deal last year microcenter just opened up nearby)
Are you starving fps vs refresh rate on your current setup?
If not then no if yes, what GPU you have and what is cheaper changing all the stuff saving GPU or just changing GPU?
Jason, I don't know anything about a UPS. Can you do a best UPS buying guide video? It will be so much helpful and not so many people have done that. I commented on a video and you said you will keep that in mind. Please can you help?
This. Where I live, the power often flickers for a second or two, during storms, just enough to cause a shutdown or reboot. I really need a UPS to prevent data corruption on the ssd
A ups is just a battery between your system and the wall. This day and age you can just look at the rated time and find one that fits your needs.
Even if it seems straightforward, it would be nice to get Jason's take on them. The whole power conditioning thing, like preventing power spikes or brown outs impact on PC components, in addition to protecting during outages, has to be worthwhile, depending on your country's energy grid. The US does not have a Tier 1 energy grid in most areas compared to many countries, but it depends of course. San Francisco's and Seattle's grids are probably pretty good...lol
@@marks9233 it would probably be better to ask someone like electroboom, an electrical engineer.
Hi, Jason! I love your channel! Thanks for keeping us all informed. A year a go, I didn't know diddly squat about PCs. I've learned a lot, bought my own PC, upgraded the gpu later, and have been loving everything about it. You've been a big part of that for me. So, thanks!!! Looking forward to the new GPUs and x3D chips not only to see what they can do, but for the content as well.
Hi Jason, Im new, I have a question. What is the best low power consumption GPU for 1080p ultra/max settings?
i have just gone on a huge shopping spree upgrading my pc it was an intel 7th gen now im getting the 9800x3d and depending on price hopefully switch my 3080 for a 5070 or 80 but the main question is will my mother board support the full power of the 5070 or will i have to change mother board (x670E tomahawk )
What motherboard is Jason using with his 7600x build? I'm running an i9 9900k with an 6950xt strictly for gaming , looking upgrade to AMD Ryzen 5 but is debating on what CPU and MB B650 combo to build with. Read reddit posts users having most issues with EVGA and Asus boards.
Think i'll save, save, save for a 5090 and get it in the future... and THEN get a 4K OLED monitor. This gives more time for new monitors to come out while I can enjoy the 5090. I'd upgrade from a 3060 ti. That would be my end game. I mainly play multiplayer games but I'd LOVE and want to get into story mode games.
I would love a OLED monitor but I refuse to pay like 600-1500$ for a monitor. Thats just insane. But yeah I would rather have a HDR OLED monitor than raytracing. More and more synthetic benchmarks are just useless to see what the REAL performance of a cpu will be in gaming or apps. Cinebench and geekbench and all the others should really rethink their entire benchmark/algorithms/tests so it reflects reality... might be hard to do I dont know but whats the point if your benchmark doesnt show real world performance??
LCD's are still significantly cheaper for sure, but I'd keep an eye out around Black Friday for some big OLD price drops. Are you looking for 1440p or 4k?
Yeah, my Display is running 15h/day so an OLED is an absolute no-go for me as I'd need to replace it every 2-3 years, and I'd rather spend that kind of money on a new GPU.
If they test at 4K with a 4080 like a real scenario, many CPUs would be close in their fps and you wouldn't be able to differentiate their raw power.
You pay for what you get. OLED imo beats any ips even mini led monitors as 2k dimming zone isnt enough compared to 4k which has over 8 million pixels which you can say are dimming zones. Save up some money and i do think its worth it when you compare them side by side and you see the horrible blooming and how it distorts the picture you will see why OLEDS do cost but are very well worth it. Even 1440p OLED @ 144hz hits over a 4k ips panel
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I don't think you'll be waiting overly long for a good price below 600 bucks. I just bought a 1440p 240 Hz OLED for $449 on Amazon.
When nVidia offers a solution where the card is both an upgrade and costs less than $350, I'll probably upgrade my GTX 1080. But, the 4060 does not offer enough of a performance upgrade. Maybe they can get it right 4 generations later? Otherwise I'll continue buying from someone else who can actually produce consumer level cards.
Well said, Nvidia has really struggled in that price point
7800xt is right GPU for you if you dont mind AMD..
Is Intel trying to pull an Nvidia with Arrow Lake? The pricing for those CPUs is insane, even by Intel standards.
I want to get the Corsair 4000X or 5000x. I'm told it isn't good airflow but I like them. I don't know if the 5000x is too big.
I am disappointed in the monitor market. I have an older LG 26" ultrawide monitor. It would be cool to see more monitors in that size, or maybe once size down. I like the extra screen space, it would be cool to see something in this size with a higher refresh rate. I know it is more of a productivity monitor, not gaming, but I just don't want to feel so cut off from the room around me that a bigger monitor does and not all people have space for really large monitors. I guess I feel like companies don't believe there is a market for something so they don't make it. It took me years to bother to upgrade my monitor because companies stopped making smaller ones. If I could get better features in a smaller package I would jump at that monitor.
I am still sitting with my AMD FX8370 + 1060 amp which served me 8 years, barely running D4 and FPS games and wanting to upgrade with an up to 1800 - 2000$ budget max, problem is i am in Asia, no black friday sale. What should i get to get the same years of millage? Do i wait for next year, if yes when?
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Do we think an Xtx @ the $700 price point is worth buying right now? I found it on marketplace locally. Would love everyone’s thoughts.
If it's in good condition absolutely
@@kelley09162 Thanks for the reply, and yes it is.
Need help on what to upgrade on my build gpu: evga xc3 ultra 3070, cpu: ryzen 7 5800X, motherboard: ASUS TUF X570, cpu cooler: corsair h100i elite LCD, ram: corsair vengance lpx 16gb x4, power supply: corsair rm850x
Love your videos, keep at it.
Thank you! Really appreciate that
My gaming monitor is an LG C3 55 and 120hz a 4K native is mora than enough. My RTX 4070 Super is the card in charge for this task... what GPU do you use?!
Can you do a video about RX 8000 series vs RTX 5000 series (5060,5070)
Can you play on 1440p with Ray Tracing? Or is it only on 4k?
You can, my personal opinion is focus on getting yourself to 4k over doing Ray Tracing at 1440p
@@PCBuilderChannel I would love to play at 4K but the going is Jason that we don't know for sure if these new GPUs are going to able to run 4K games with Maxed out setting at a consistent 100+ FPS. Quite frankly, if they can't then I'm just gonna stick to 1440p gaming.
Should I go for a 7700x maybe 9700x and 4080 super or 7800x3d and 4070 ti super I only play in 1080p 144hz rn but I will upgrade to 360hx 1440p oled I mainly play competitive games like rocket league and Overwatch 2 but might play some AAA games but I don’t cuz I am on Xbox series x
I would wait and see what the 9800X3D price and performance is and if good pair that with a 4070 Ti Super.
If not get the 7800X3D instead.
competitive games = cpu bottleneck. AAA singleplayer games = gpu bottleneck. While generally for best future proof it's better to get overkill cpu, cause switching out the gpu down the line is infinitely simpler than getting a new mobo for a new cpu which also costs a new windows registration key
I bought Acer Nitro ED1 series 27" (ED271U) monitor
I will say is in the list of price per performance. I start watching your videos and being honest I sold my Ps5. I just bought a 7800x3d couple days ago in Walmart $399 + tax, a NEW ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WiFi AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard (B650EFGMWF) for $200 2 days ago. I'm still saving money to get all the parts needed to build a PC but that what I got right now. By the way thanks for all those videos that actually helped people like me.
I'm also waiting for next gen gpu's and cpu's. I was very close to replacing my current system with something like amd 7700x cpu and nvidia 4070 gpu OR building a very cheap AM5 system now and upgrade once new stuff comes out, but I am soooooo glad I decided to wait out!
I have a very specific criteria for my gaming rig: I build a somewhat a better mid-end gaming system, £1500-2000 and I keep that system for as long as it can run my games at stable 60fps (mostly single players or non-competetive multiplayer). I don't need to run a game at 150+fps, but if the system can run current games at high fps, that means the system has a lot of "room" to run future games before it will start to struggle keeping them at stable 60fps. This for me turns out to be about 5-7 years without major (gpu/cpu/mbo) upgrading. Now I got core i5 6600k and nvidia 1070 gpu and it is keeping cyberpunk 2077 at fluctuating 50-80fps, world of warcraft during raiding drops down too much, so that is a sign that it is time to replace it with a new system early next year.
I am looking forward to see how the rest of amd's 9000 series will turn out and what new gen gpu's will offer. Some of the 4000 series mid range gpu's already struggle to keep games above 80fps with max graphics settings? No thank you, I'll wait.
As for arrow lake, it seems to me that this is a great step that intel has made. Yeah, it is buggy, sucky and definitely should have polished it better before launching. But despite that, I am excited, because I see arrow lake cpu's as intel laying down a completely new foundation to build on. I heard amd had similar problems when they first launched ryzen cpu's. If that's true, then look where they are now: completely crushing gaming market even with older gen ryzen 3D cpu's. So I am looking forward to see what intel will come up with further generations or maybe even a refresh of arrow lake if that ever happens.
Fingers crossed for next gen cpu's and gpu's!
Raiding in WoW is one of the areas I've heard the most complaints from performance issues from others in Discord. For me it's very smooth on my still overkill 12900KF 4090 48gb DDR5 at 1440P. My friend has a harder time at 1440P UW. Resolution and having the 8gb vram should be enough until you upgrade, CPU would still be more important but GPU is utilized a good amount in raiding I believe. You can use FSR but that adds latency. My friend does everything 1080P with 5800X and a midrange AMD GPU I helped pick out after the crypto mining era was over. I just use P cores though I tried experimenting with both but that caused a lot of game crashes. The new Intels might be different as far as optimization. 5700X3D and 9800X3D will be coming out soon. When I went from skylake to 9600K that got rid of my stuttering and then I did the GPU later back in 2019 was getting CPU stutters in BFA during Horrific Visions. I remember having to tab out and open/close a program to unstick horrific vision of Orgrimmar at the 2-3 stutter points after interrupts that were truly mandatory. A friend of mine lost her mask run to whatever machine she had at the time choked before Garrosh. Raid is one thing I found demanding both on Windows and Linux. Would certainly play something else impressive Baldur's Gate 3 or BM: Wukong after the upgrade. It's a bit of a shame to throw an overkill machine at raiding, I think the X3Ds would also be a great candidate. 5090 does seem interesting to me, should have PCIE5 GPUs next gen.
Totally agree, if AMD GPUs get a boost in raytracing (eh...not necessary, but nice to have) and get decent raster boost at a mid range price point, that's a winner. I hope FSR will equal DLSS.
I still wonder about production for a dual-use GPU though with programs being tuned to Nvidia CUDA architecture.
Just bought a 7800X3d. Wanting to build mini ITX SFF with a 5090. Guess I’m waiting on 5090 availability, possible new cases / UA-cam vids on 5090 ITX sff builds.
I want small footprint on my desk with decent thermals and an AIO build. Would Consider Noctua dh15 air cooled. We’ll see!!
Also hoping for Black Friday deals.
You'll have to see just how big 5090 GPUs are so you'll know if a 5090 will even fit in an ITX Case.
Got my 1440p gigabyte m32q years ago and I love it. Everything pops on this and 165 hz is great for gaming.
4k gaming has been around for some years now, but i still think we arent there yet.
you need to pay about 3000-4000dollars to play 4k 50-80 FPS, price to performence arent there.
1440p is the sweetspot, and also it not that big of a diffrence to pay so much
the longer you wait the better value you can get
Eyes on the 7900 gre (3060 ti current) for my daughter's PC, I'll be very jealous (3070 currently on mine) maybe used 7800 myself Christmas present for less jealousy without a ton of guilt
I'm planning to build my first PC, should I buy the 4080 super now or wait for the 5070 to come out? Will it be better?
That's up to you. Depends on how soon you want a PC.
the thing about "waiting" tho is that all the holidays promos will be gone and you will only be left with full prices for some time, you need to also factor that instead of only thinking about "oh next gen is coming"
Hello Jason.
Since 9800X3D will release the 7th of november. I was just wondering if you would recommend minimum a 7900 XT for that processor or even a 7900 XTX?
It may be the same as the 7800X3D where a 7900GRE would be good but we'll just have to see.
Yes I imagine it will be the same recommendation as 7800X3D, minimum 7900GRE. We'll have build guides coming too
Can you build a pc with a 1025$ budget using an intel processor and an rtx graphics card, Can you?
I can try, but why Intel and Nvidia?
Is this a Production Build?
What gpu do you recommend for CS2 at 1080p 240 hz? i9 1200K cpu and rtx 1080 currently.
What's the ideal cpu for the 7700xt?
7600 would be my pick! See our latest Best Builds October video for more.
@@PCBuilderChannel Oh oops, I ended up going with the 5600x 😅
@@ssjmg003that's a good choice too
My understanding of ATX 3.0 vs 3.1 is that 3.1 only brings a minor revision to the 6x2 cable, but the PSU itself actually has some looser specs under 3.1. So in theory, a 3.0 PSU can be upgraded with the newest cable and be the best of both worlds. Though realistically, the 3.0 6x2 cable should be perfectly fine, if you just don't eat any crayons and plug it in all the way. If I'm mistaken on any of this information, someone please correct me.
Building a new pc right now and gathering parts, 9800x3d is a given as the cpu, am going to splurge on a asrock taichi x870e board but gpu??? Should I wait for 50 series or go with the 7900 xtx? I don’t want issues and never had a single problem with my 6800xt which was donated to my son and the AMD drivers have been rock solid. RT hasnt interested me but since I will have more horsepower now with the CPU, and possible GPU should I consider it, should I just wait, will new AMD gpu’s add anything I won’t already have. I am torn!
With the likely sales on the 7900XTX over Black Friday I'd be tempted with that but entirely up to you and your preferences
The way I see it the new gen will gain maybe a 8-15% boost and coming from a laptop with no discrete card NOW was the time to buy and getting the rx7900xt for $630 was a no brainer.
Wait how'd you get it for that low ? I'm scouting Slickdeals and microcenter for deals on xtx but no way am I paying $800+
@@bobjohnson6131 Just saw a deal from amazon a couple of weeks ago just after amazon prime days.
Off topic question for anyone that wants to answer
I have a MSI B550 Gaming GEN3 Gaming Motherboard (AMD Ryzen 5000 Series, AM4, DDR4, PCIe 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, M.2, USB 3.2 Gen 1, HDMI/DVI-Port, ATX)
Can I put a Gen 4 m.2 SSD like
TEAMGROUP T-Force G70 PRO Aluminum Heatsink 1TB DRAM SLC Cache 3D TLC NAND NVMe InnoGrit PCIe Gen4x4 M.2 2280
Or will it bottle neck the write speeds ?
Hi Jason.
For Black Friday I'm thinking about getting the 4070 Ti Super for 1440p gaming but will eventually switch to 4k.
Do you think it's a good idea? Since the Rtx 5070 is coming out soon and according to rumors it will be around 26% faster than the 4070 Super thus being aroung 8% faster than the Ti Super and at a price of $600 to $700 but with 12gb Vram only.
Its hard to say at this point. That price point in particular is challenging given that $800 will probably get you something strong from AMD in early 2025. New Nvidia GPUs I'm betting will be much for expensive. So if Nvidia is the brand of choice I can see going for it over Black Friday but could go either way
I can at least give you some data points for decision-making. I've been running a 4070 Ti Super with a 7800X3D and recently transitioned from 1440p to 4k. It's a great card for doing that, and if you're okay with 4k frame rates in the 70-120 range, it will work well (I find that 90+ is where 4k really smooths out for me). It's a BEAST for 1440p and in 4k, there are only a couple of titles that I've had to use DLSS Quality, I prefer native if I can get it, and I dislike frame gen. I went with an LG 32" IPS panel for now and keeping an eye out for what happens with monitor tech, I'm not happy with where OLED is right now. From a quality standpoint, GOOD HDR is a real boon too. If you want to test, you can use DSR and render at 4k to your 1440 monitor and get some idea of your 4k frame rates. I have the clock turned up on my 4070 Ti Super, hitting 2940 MHz most of the time and within a few % of 4080 performance.
@dkindig Thanks, that was really helpful.
@@PCBuilderChannelwill the 5000 series also be compatible with Z690 MB's and PCIe 3 or 4? Since I remember that had something to do with compatibiliteit of components🤔
With how games are now, I won't buy a GPU with less than 12GB VRAM. I'm currently on an RTX 3070 Ti with only 8GB VRAM.
lol nvidia low life expectancy on the gpu built-in from the factory.
Totally agree about investing into 4k, with upscalers raipidly improving mid range GPU can manage playing in upscaled 4k. RT is still a meme for anything other than 4090, and even that only manages borderline acceptable FPS in some games. RT is just not worth it current gen.
Jason, are you completely convinced that FSR = DLSS? Can you talk more about that sometime? That seems to be one of the lasting advantages to going Nvidia and is really a big factor, especially if trying to go 4k. Isn't it? I guess if you can go up a tier in raster performance on AMD for the same $$$ premium Nvidia charges for their brand, that would be an equalizer.
thank you for doing this, keep at it my dude
NV should be making the 5060 the way it ought to be. With 12 GB GDDR6X and 60% faster than the 4060.They can sell a ton of them easily if priced competitively.
i just bought the 7900xt on prime day for the same price as a 4070 super im pretty happy with it
I don't think people should beta test arrow lake. At least on 12th gen you could do things to get stable, disable e cores, try turning off turbo boost, lowering ram speeds toward recommended. Honestly most people are good with a 5700X3D budget or AM5 7500F or similar X3D.
Listen to your customers - what a concept...!
Can somebody tell me, how good is FSP VITA GM, 80+ Gold, 850W psu, I just bought it and I want to know if it's good for a mid rage build.
You'd think 5060 should match a 4070 at a cheaper price. But that would make too much sense for nvidia.
i think we need to have a conversation about GPUs and diminishing returns. DO you even need a 5k series graphics card for gaming?
Depends... 4080 super can barely reach 70 fps in most AAA 4k raster.
An rtx 3080 is still very good same with 6800xt. Linus just made a good video on old vs new.
What’s best performance 1440p GPU to pair with Ryzen 5 7600X?
7800XT or 7900GRE are good choices but the 7700XT would also work if your budget is smaller.
I have tried out a 28” 4k monitor. It looks great, but I prefer my 34” 3440x1440p curved OLED better. Because Immersion. You can lose yourself in a game and leave reality behind.
Broski what kinda job do you have ..i need to learn from you
Got my RX 6800 for US$ 360 from Amazon for my first PC build. Happy to find it since it seemed it was gone for good!
Hey Mr.Bear! I bought a B650 MB when AM5 dropped. Can I install the 9800x3D CPU and be good to go or do I need to upgrade my MB? Tell Jason I said hi!
The answer is yes
Update the Bios with the current CPU then the 9 serious should drop in.
Great video, Jay! Have a wonderful weekend, brother!
Thank you Thomas!! Hope you have a great weekend too
I have two huge dilemmas now for my first ever build: 4070 ti super x 7900 xtx (don't want to wait for the new gens) and what ultrawide monitor to get. Can you add a section for ultrawides when you do another monitor buying guide or when you post about black friday deals? I would love to get an OLED, but I cant justify the price as I want to spend under $400 on it.
7900XTX for the GPU though the 7900XT is also good.
And for the Monitor the AOC CU34G2XP/BK looks good price to performance wise.
4070Ti Super is better, read monitor reviews to see what is best for you in your budget.
I want to buy a laptop with rtx5080 graphic card, when we have to expect these kind of laptops from Asus or Lenovo legion ?
I see a World of Warcraft Pepe plushie back there. Here's to hoping you will make a gaming-rig video with WoW and other MMOs in mind? Most gaming-rig videos involve shooting games, never MMOs. I would LOVE to see you put together a build list for 1080, 1440, and 4k, to run WoW at it's best, and all at different budget levels.
Would consider an X3D build for those, 5700X3D on the cheaper end, 7800/9800X3D going more premium. Am at 1440P setup is overkill but it's smooth for raiding 12900KF 4090 48gb DDR5 (I play other games too). My friend at 1080P still is on a 5800X and midrange AMD gpu. My friend at 1440P UW has a more demanding resolution to push but only has 100 refresh he went from a 10900K 3090 sold down to a 9400 2070, not sure how that will fare if he does switch to healing evoker soon, there's a move where you sweep across the floor that can stutter after. If raiding isn't a focus or world boss/epic bgs you can get by open world with much less hardware wise, 3gb min vram on GPU, modern CPU 7500F would also work. I've been happy at 1440P since 2019 though it's more demanding than 1080P as far as CPU and GPU to run at higher settings. FSR would be a compromise at the addition of latency. I've run a gamut of hardware throughout the years in game from iGPU to my current one difference is I don't have to run FSR can do 100 percent (cranked above 100 percent easily maybe 144 when I was chilling finishing loremaster), resolution would be the main thing and activity as to what you are doing in the world/how populated it is impact FPS and how many objects there are to render in the zone. FF14 Dawntrail benchmark is also decent at giving an analysis across machines but would put CPU upgrade first always then can always upgrade the GPU later. Can also put at least 3 of the demanding settings in a row to low and lower particle effects and weather, ground detail clutter to not waste potential FPS, get more performance.
Hey Jason, hoping you or your community can help. On AM4 for 4 years, my first ever build was a 3600 and 2070 super. Find it is starting to struggle and looking to upgrade to get another 3-5 years from AM4 before upgrading to new platform. Looking at keeping my 750W PSU so was considering 1) 5700x3d, would prefer 5800x3d but can't find one and price of 5700x3d is $299 cdn 2) 7900xt currently on sale on newegg canada for $899 cdn, and 3) 2x16 3600 cl16 for $129cdn. I exclusively play at 1440p, primarily COD and Starfield, and tgt framerate to match my panels would be 165. Any advice would be appreciated as I'm struggling to decide. Other cosiderations were 4080 super and 7900xtx but I think the XTX would require a PSU upgrade as well. Thanks
I'll be getting the 5090 ti super cuz it'll be my last PC upgrade for at least 18 years.
Uhh, it's been some time. Fell into a WH 40k Lore Rabbit hole, and haven't paid a lot of attention to the tech space.
In relation to your question. My 4070 super is doing fine, and I have no issues with my 5600x to excuse a cpu upgrade.
Could use a guide in storage hygiene as my current solution is a bit all over the place with 3 drives and documents and programs in a disorganized mess
For the almighty algorithm and cat memes and the newest cat
Have a fantastic weekend!
Going to 1440 from 1080, feels like a whole new world. If youre on 1080 still.....why!??!?!
going to 4k from 1440 didnt feel as big of a jump for me. But i still love the pixel density and absolute lack of need of software anti-aliasing on 4k.
1080p and 720p are futureproof, you always need to upgrade GPU for 1440p
@hrvojemilicevic3309 Oh...you're serious aren't you? 🤣 i hope you keep gaming on a 720p 4:3 aspect ratio monitor. The rest of us will look at you and go, "dang, they are future proof" haha
Going from 900p to 1080p to 1440p. Each time i do the upgrade i try to convince myself those high res monitor will look better but no matter how i tried it never made me feel playing on my older 24 inch 1080p look bad over my new 27 inch 1440p. But with new monitor it becomes harder to drive game because of the extra pixel. Personally i still advice people to stick to 1080p.
@@arenzricodexd4409 even low tier GPUs can handle 1440p pretty easily now. If you're using modern low-mid hardware...there is zero reason to not run 1440p. People were rocking 1440p back with 900 and 1000 series GPUs easily....it's 2024..not 2010
@@dumbcow1 but many people want to keep their GPU as long as possible. One way to get that done is by keeping the resolution low such as 1080p. You can keep the gpu longer with 1080p res than 1440p.