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Hello, I have a specific question: Best boards i can chose from are: MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WIFI MSI PRO X870-P WIFI Which would you recommend, the PRO X870 is even 30€ cheaper for me. Thanks for your help!
Just bought 9800x3d with X870e Aurous Elite wifi 7, absolutely brilliant with the auto tuning on that x3d chip. Also came with compatible bios out of the box, still updated it for the x3d OC features
I will still be rocking my ASRock B650 Steel Legend. I got it at launch for $ 178. It is actually a 650E as it supports Pcle 5,Insane Vrams with high-end audio with 10 connectivity slots,you can not find this motherboard anywhere now,not in the U.S. anyway
If I look at the AM5 motherboards, I cry and I remember buying in April 2019 my current ASRock B450 HDV 4.0 for $59.99. During next week I will replace my Ryzen 2 2200G; 16GB (3000MHz) with a Ryzen 5 5600GT; 32GB (3200MHz) and I intend to keep the motherboard at least till 2030. I'm a collector! I have all Windows releases from 1.04 (1987) to 11 Pro (now) in a VM and the same is true for all Ubuntu LTS Releases from 6.06 LTS to 24.04 LTS plus 4.10 (the first); 5.04 (my first) and 24.10 the 20 years remembrance version :) :).
I was going with the Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX V2 for my build, but then the Gigabyte X870 Gaming Wifi6 came on sale and they are now the same price, so I'm probably going with the X870 unless anyone can give me good reasons not to. :D Thanks for the video! All your videos have been really helpful picking out parts for my build. Will be the first new PC I get since 2016 so I should see some good improved performance.
MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi $280 for a Ryzen 9900x, when building a new system I'd much rather spend a couple more dollars and get latest gen and hopefully get at least 5 years out of it.
I got myself these beasties in my new build! Motherboard - Asrock B650E Taichi Lite which comes with 24+2+1 VRMs and ALC4082 audio codec for only $199.99 super happy! CPU - ryzen 7 9800x3d GPU - AMD rx 7900xtx taichi OC
Hi Jason, im just about to buy a 9800x3d, 7900xtx 24gb using this monitor "Alienware AW3225QF 32 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) 1700R Curved Gaming Monitor, 240Hz, QD OLED" should i use the display port or hdmi 2.1 connection? Im trying to figure out which will allow me to get the best display and performance what would you recommend? thanks in advance, great videos!
Just built a new system with the 9800x3d. I initially ordered a MSI X670E Tomhawk but then sent it back and got the MSI X870 Tomahawk instead for 30$ more. Several reasons why x870 VS x670e :1) the x870 is newer, possibly longer term support ; 2) more usb ports total; 3) pci quick release for GPU - this alone is worth 30usd if you've ever been really frustrated to get the old gpu out of there; 4) usb 4 ; 5) wifi 7; 6) newer audio I would say to people looking at getting a new motherboard sure maybe there is no one key feature in x870 that alone justifies it over a x670 or similar but as a whole it could make all the difference.
Daughter said she wanted a new computer for Xmas so we bit the bullet and ordered a B650E AORUS STEALTH ICE which has reverse connectors. What are you thoughts on the reverse connector Mobo's Jason?
Good morning Jason crew and kitties! Great content as usual! it’s funny, I’m patrolling around and I’m putting my computer together with with your suggestions in my mind… come on 2025 video cards!! ( maybe)🤔
@@PCBuilderChannel Why the tomohawk over the Steel Legend? Seen many advice Steel Legend over the Tomohawk? The Steel Legend is in stock where i live and excatly the same price as the Tomohawk
OMG, just what I needed for my nephew's college pc build. I was looking for a MB for the upcoming 9950x3d at around $300 and this video came just in time. Thanks, Jason ! The timing is impeccable.
Great Stuff as always! Random ? - trying to setup my PS5 and my Gaming PC together on my desk setup. My PS5 does NOT recognize my KEF LSX ii speakers (I understand its something about PS only using an old UAC 1.0) right now my "work around" is HDMI to my acer predator xb283k and then 3.5 "headphone" out to my speakers. Will that setup work or should I look into purchasing a DAC instead of relying on the monitor to do the sound conversion?
hey jason!! been loving your content! i notice that the MSI mag tomahawk frequently gets recommended. I have an mATX build, where would the MSI mag mortar board fall in your recommendation categories? premium or midrange, or not at all? thank you!
Between this channel and gamersnexus i can always find the info i need. You are doing a phenomenal job, keep it up! (and you have saved me and my family SO much on windows and office keys! 🍻)
Hi Jason, you've really sold me on the ASUS Prime X670E with this and the build video prior, but having a hard time deciding between it and the MSI MPG Z790 Edge Ti Max WiFi as they're the same price in Canada. According to some sites it seems to perform better, despite having to go to intel, would the jump in performance be worth it?
So I looked at prices in Canada and I would actually go MSI Pro B650-A WIFI ATX over the ASUS Prime X670E. It's a newer Motherboard but has good reviews and a similar look to the ASUS.
also dont blow money on pcie 5 components..not unless youre doing serious work for it..just pick up an wd sn850x at 250 for 4tb..pcie 4..but lets be honest..who needs pcie 5 other than workers
I have ~$500 to upgrade my pc (2600 & 1070ti) should i go for the microcenter $399 7600x3d bundle and get a psu upgrade for a future gpu, or go for a 7800xt and wait until i can get the microcenter bundle
Unfortunately either way you'll be Bottlenecked. So no matter what you chose hopefully you'll be able to upgrade other parts soon. You could also go 5700X3D on the CPU so save a little vs going for the 7600X3D Bundle.
In a “best” video I am surprised the nova phantom x870e and the asrock taichi x870e. Yea they are pricey, but not crazy like asus. But the design of the no compromise slots where they aren’t stealing bandwidth from the gpu is amazing!
for me went with x870 as the b650 cost same if not more than the x870 at least i get usb 4 and newer model, retailers sees people buy old boards and they price it higher just do your research before buying
Hey, I was wondering if you think its not worth the money I save buying the 7700x microcenter bundle that comes with the Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX v2? My build is gonna have a 7900xt and Ive heard some people say that my lower tier motherboard will be bad for my build. What are thoughts? Id just like to save a little bit of money
No that's a totally fine Motherboard, but just note the 9700X Bundle is only $30 more I'd get that instead. Unless you're just using it for Gaming then I'd say get the 7600X3D Bundle.
Everyone said to wait 😂 Good thing I didn't listen and decided to buy during the 15 percent flash sale from new egg. The best deals are in September. I purchased a 4070 ti super with an i9 14900k prebuilt pc for 1500. I then build one from new egg with a 7900 xtx build and it cost less that the 4070 tI super by 100 and had better ram with 3 tb storage. And way better looking. My experience, buy during September. Don't hold. Even during that month all GPUs and boards were on sale.
Am I just used to laptops? I just finished a Project Zero B650 7600X 7800XT build this week. I love the system except the startup time. I get no signal for like 45 seconds before the mobo lights blink and the PZ logo pops and the Windows wheel starts spinning. With any new build, frequent restarts happened due to tuning which felt like it took hours longer than it needed to. Is quick startup a laptop only thing? Between work and home, this is the first desktop I've used in over a decade. This is my first desktop on SSD if that says anything. But my basic 2022 laptop is practically at Wlogin by the time the screen is opened. I looked for options in bios and Windows but didnt find anything. Pretty annoying.
I always like these episodes on fundamental things a lot, and this channel always remains a fundamental reference for us who love personal computers. 🤗
Got a 9700X and an ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-I. Paired with a XFX Merc 7900XTX, this system absolutely blows away my older 5800x3D+ 3090 setup. I might upgrade to 9800x3D but I haven't seen a decent ITX board to go with it, except for that insanely overpriced ASUS X870 board. One thing that bugs me to no end is that the GPU is outrageously huge (343 mm length) so I had to go back to my older NR200 case as it wouldn't fit my NZXT H1 v2 or pretty much any other mini ITX board out there. I'm seriously thinking of selling the 7900XTX for a smaller card.
Gigabyte has a X870 ITX Board but it's White/Silver and currently out of stock. Also just note the Sapphire Pulse 7900XTX is 313mm in length so that one would fit in more Cases.
Both the CPU and GPU are older than I would keep honestly. Its time for an entirely new build, it will be more cost effective then trying to upgrade your current system. Check out our Best Budget Gaming PC 2024 video for some whole new builds options that would be better for you
Thank you so much for making such a video. I was just looking for a similar Video on youtube and your video poped up. Really Thank you and God Bless you
I'm about to purchase a desktop intel i7 14700k,32gb ddr5 4800 and i tb ssd.All that in h610m h gigabyte motherboard. Could you suggest a GPU, that does NOT bottleneck my cpu if i need two 4k monitors?
I do not recommend this at all. That's a terrible motherboard for a 14700k first of all, and I can't recommend 13th and 14th gen intel cpus right now due to the degradation issues. Is this a prebuilt? Please go watch our Best Prebuilt Gaming PC 2024 video before you spend money on this
I'm still waiting on my 9800X3d and I've been looking at the X870 Tomahawk and the X670E Tomahawk because a lot of redditors and youtubers seem to agree that it's a good board, if only a bit expensive which isn't an issue. If I'm not worried about cost, wouldn't it still be worth it to get a mobo that has the PCIe 5.0 slot if I'm already planning on getting the new 50 series card?
Any thoughts on the B650 steel legend (I know you mentioned not loving the x870)? I find them in stock at 180 from time to time, but not sure how it stacks up to the tomahawk
Hey Jason, I wanted your thoughts on monitors. I really like curved monitors 1440 p and also 240 Hz. I have a samsung odyssey g7 and the msi 1440 p 165 monitor you recommended a year ago. I want to replace one with a oled but specifically curved with 1440 p and prefer 240 Hz. I narrowed it down to these 2 unless you recommend something else. Would love your thoughts lg 34gs95qe-b vs msi mpg 341cqpx I have a 4080 and a 14900 K, wish I had 7800 X3D but yeah. I play both competive games and graphic intensive games. Will still use monitor on the side. Also love your content. Thanks for all you do for us.
You should check out our Best 1440p Gaming Monitor video! We cover our thoughts on OLED there and I just finished updating the recommendation links in the description for sales. Look for the ones marked with a fire emoji.
whats the final answer for the b650 steel legend wifi, does it have pcie 5.0 and they misspelled the manual? or does it not have it and every store just put it on their page because of miscommunication?
What do you think about the MSI X670E MAG Tomahawk WiFi with a 7950x3d ? Micro center is having a bundle and I want to know if these actually work well together, let me know your thoughts thanks! Thanks for the perfectly timed video!
@ thank you I appreciate it! Yeah I’m going to be using blender, doing video editing and trying my hand at some game design so I wanted something that could do all that plus enjoy some gaming on my off time
Good board! Upgraded audio. Premium board just overpriced. If you find it at a good price go for it. MSI Tomahawk is cheaper right now and just as good in my opinion
Ok have a question to see if people can help me out here. My current build is a 3800x, rx 5700xt and 16gb of ram. I'm thinking of upgrading rn to a 5700x3d and 7900 gre with 32gbs ram but I could instead get a laptop (zen4 r7 and rx 7700 xt mobile) and then upgrade later, how much would tariffs impact me in the US? Would it be smarter to do my upgrades now and wait until deals come back later into next year for a laptop, or do the opposite?
For my pc I first bought a cheap b550 micro-atx it kinda broke so now I got an atx a little more expensive, hopefully I won't need to upgrade for a long time
Wished you also included Laptops/Mac's sometimes 🙃 Choices and costs are all over the place ... dont know what to pick anymore ... Lenovo, Apple MacBook's, Acer, Samsung, Chromebooks, oled screens or LCD, 13 inch or 16 inch, go with 8GB Ram or upgrade to 16GB, battery life ... its crazy town 🤠😅
We don't cover apple products but you can check out our Best Gaming Laptop 2024 video. I actually just finished updating the links in the description there. Look for the ones marked with a fire emoji
I decided to be a little dumb and grab a X670E board instead of a more reasonable chipset. I got the Asrock X670E Pro RS because it had more than 4 SATA ports (I have 5 SATA drives still) and it also happened to be literally the cheapest X670E board available. It cost me 240€ at the time which was about the same price as an expensive B650 board and I figured since basically every X670 motherboard has good VRMs unlike some other generations and the cheaper B650 boards can vary, I figured it'd be a decent option that's still expensive, but not horribly expensive and gives me everything I need. I am gambling a little bit on the PCIE5 slot being useful in the future, but I figured this would set me up for the next 6 years at least in terms of support for anything. Time will tell, it's always a bit of a gamble. I don't use the onboard audio, so I don't mind too much that it doesn't have a great codec and the wifi chip is easily accessible for any future upgrades or if something goes wrong with it.
You need to differentiate the M.2 to the CPU vs through the (overloaded) chipset. Direct to the CPU gives 4 dedicated PCIe lanes per drive. Via the chipset makes umpteen devices share 4 lanes.
I want 4k 240 fps capable on my next PC in games like space Marine 2 just waiting for possible new LG tvs or Sony to make a giant gaming tv with 240hrtz
Would love to see a bit more focus on Mini-ITX, as a lot of us are space constrained. On the Mini ITX front why not put a mention out to the ASROCK A620i Lightning Wifi - Thats on for $119.99 at Newegg. Sure you lack the ability to overclock, however in a Mini PC setup your often cooling restrained anyway so Overclock is likely not much of an option anyway. whichever way you cut it its nearly half the price of your recommended M-ITX board, thats a big saving.
I personally wouldn't recommend a board that doesn't allow for PBO even in a Mini ITX. See our Mini ITX build guide on the channel for more. But to each their own of course!
i dont understand one part: i really struggle finding motherboards that have headers for usb 3.2 AND USB type c below like 150. even though most modern cases have one or more normal type A USB 3.2 sockets and at least 1 usb type c. it makes it really difficult to build budget pc's in these cases
Hey there! I'm not 100% sure but I believe that is related to your NVIDIA GPU. It's a sign something isn't running properly, but hard to say if it is impacting your system performance. Might want to post a troubleshooting post in the r/buildapc reddit.
I bought the eagle AX and it arrived yesterday but you've convinced me to just pay the extra 40 bucks to go to a tomahawk. I splurged on my 7800x3d cpu and will buy AMD's top end gpu, I shouldn't I'm exchanging it rn.
@ I bought it two months ago before the 9800 was announced so it’s outside the return window. Also, the 9800 is out of stock everywhere. Not worth the trouble I’m good with the 7800
@ i missed when it was SUPER discounted down at like 350 but I got it for 419, I’m pretty happy with that. It’s a great chip. But I haven’t built yet since I’m waiting on the new gpus
@@RCunderscore yeah i picked up a couple of items..laptop is starting to go at 5.5 years..just need the oled screen..mb and im going to let the hype die down for 9800xd..amd usually like to discount it after a while..if it gets down to 420 that be a decent price..and yeah im looking for AMD as well..UNLESS..Nividia say brings us a 5070 within 10% of a 4090 at least 16gb and preferably a 256 bus..if they do that for like 550-650..and its better than the AMD..then yeah okay..pretty sure theyre gonna offer shitty products again though..historallically the 70 should be close to the top sku from last gen..so it should be that way..
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What Ryzen CPU and Motherboard are you considering? Did you build or upgrade recently? Tell your story in a new comment below!
Early bird 😊
Hello, I have a specific question:
Best boards i can chose from are:
MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WIFI
MSI PRO X870-P WIFI
Which would you recommend, the PRO X870 is even 30€ cheaper for me.
Thanks for your help!
9800x3d i was looking at the b650 tomahawk and x670 tomahawk
@@dropment5408 ye the tomahawks are great, but i can get the X870 for cheaper, so i wonder if i should do that. Also for a 9800X3D + 4080super.
I wish I could've got my GIGABYTE B650 Eagle for $139.00 Cdn. !!!
I splurged and got an ASRock x870e Nova WiFi and a 9800X3D. Couldn't be happier with the features and performance.
Me checking newegg and microcenter everyday But always sold out. I heard from every single person it's an amazing value board
@@mucerpI just picked up my 9800x3d at microcenter. They restocked yesterday.
What GPU are you running with it?
I needed this video right now for BF deals thanks!
That was the hope!! So glad the timing was good
Just bought 9800x3d with X870e Aurous Elite wifi 7, absolutely brilliant with the auto tuning on that x3d chip. Also came with compatible bios out of the box, still updated it for the x3d OC features
Perfect timing!!! Pricing out a cheap upgrade for my nephew!
You bet! Glad to help out!
Start buying good motherboards
haha yes!
A lot of folks don’t understand how tariffs work… rude awakening incoming.
Plus nvidia creating an artifical shortage. Prices will skyrocket@@Reluctant_Hero
Tds in full effect
I will still be rocking my ASRock B650 Steel Legend. I got it at launch for $ 178. It is actually a 650E as it supports Pcle 5,Insane Vrams with high-end audio with 10 connectivity slots,you can not find this motherboard anywhere now,not in the U.S. anyway
I got one preordered, hardware unboxed rated it really highly
It was too good to be true so they stopped producing them😅
@@themarketgardener there was a restock on amazon yesterday so I don't think they stopped making them
If I look at the AM5 motherboards, I cry and I remember buying in April 2019 my current ASRock B450 HDV 4.0 for $59.99. During next week I will replace my Ryzen 2 2200G; 16GB (3000MHz) with a Ryzen 5 5600GT; 32GB (3200MHz) and I intend to keep the motherboard at least till 2030.
I'm a collector! I have all Windows releases from 1.04 (1987) to 11 Pro (now) in a VM and the same is true for all Ubuntu LTS Releases from 6.06 LTS to 24.04 LTS plus 4.10 (the first); 5.04 (my first) and 24.10 the 20 years remembrance version :) :).
I was going with the Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX V2 for my build, but then the Gigabyte X870 Gaming Wifi6 came on sale and they are now the same price, so I'm probably going with the X870 unless anyone can give me good reasons not to. :D
Thanks for the video! All your videos have been really helpful picking out parts for my build. Will be the first new PC I get since 2016 so I should see some good improved performance.
20:55 I just got that mag 650 tomahawk on sale yesterday and this is perfectly up to date. Your hard work is not unnoticed good sir 🎉
Thank you for the incredibly informative video!
MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi $280 for a Ryzen 9900x, when building a new system I'd much rather spend a couple more dollars and get latest gen and hopefully get at least 5 years out of it.
I got myself these beasties in my new build!
Motherboard - Asrock B650E Taichi Lite which comes with 24+2+1 VRMs and ALC4082 audio codec for only $199.99 super happy!
CPU - ryzen 7 9800x3d
GPU - AMD rx 7900xtx taichi OC
Got the X870e Nova Wifi before price hike and the rebates to make it under 300 and it's 🔥🔥🔥
Nice!!
Connectivity? Rog Crosshair X870E - 40G USB DP - Display Port? Is that much data needed for video, or useful for something else?
For the midrange b650 what’s better the asus or msi?
I'd say MSI
Just brought B550 -F by Asus Rog Strix got cheap Amazon brought Ryzen 5900x also cheap bio flash it everything good so far 👍 I'm happy with it 😀
I am curious Jason, I am upgrading to a 9800x3d from a 7700x. Do I need to reinstall windows 11?
you make it look so easy explaining all this! just what i needed cuz i was getting lost in all the A-B-BxxxE-X- series !
Hi Jason, im just about to buy a 9800x3d, 7900xtx 24gb using this monitor "Alienware AW3225QF 32 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) 1700R Curved Gaming Monitor, 240Hz, QD OLED" should i use the display port or hdmi 2.1 connection? Im trying to figure out which will allow me to get the best display and performance what would you recommend? thanks in advance, great videos!
Just built a new system with the 9800x3d. I initially ordered a MSI X670E Tomhawk but then sent it back and got the MSI X870 Tomahawk instead for 30$ more. Several reasons why x870 VS x670e :1) the x870 is newer, possibly longer term support ; 2) more usb ports total; 3) pci quick release for GPU - this alone is worth 30usd if you've ever been really frustrated to get the old gpu out of there; 4) usb 4 ; 5) wifi 7; 6) newer audio
I would say to people looking at getting a new motherboard sure maybe there is no one key feature in x870 that alone justifies it over a x670 or similar but as a whole it could make all the difference.
Literally searching for a motherboard last night, think god this dropped today 😂😂😂
We hoped the timing would be good for folks!
@PCBuilderChannel appreciate all the work u do, so helpful!!!!
@@PCBuilderChannel You're the man!
Super informative, well done!
I was just watching your old Ryzen motherboard videos earlier as I needed a new board and cpu. Stop reading my mind!!
Oh no they are onto us! (;
Glad we can help!
Daughter said she wanted a new computer for Xmas so we bit the bullet and ordered a B650E AORUS STEALTH ICE which has reverse connectors. What are you thoughts on the reverse connector Mobo's Jason?
Good morning Jason crew and kitties! Great content as usual! it’s funny, I’m patrolling around and I’m putting my computer together with with your suggestions in my mind… come on 2025 video cards!! ( maybe)🤔
Good morning William!! Going to be a great build!
@ 😎
Hey! How about the ASRock B650 Steel Legend Wifi ??
And is it good for the R7 9800X3D?
Good board but its been completely out of stock! If you can find it at a good price that's fine. The MSI Tomahawk would be my pick over it
Better to get the asus tuff gaming 670e plus wifi for 200 on bestbuy
@@PCBuilderChannel thanks for the advice!
@@PCBuilderChannel Why the tomohawk over the Steel Legend? Seen many advice Steel Legend over the Tomohawk? The Steel Legend is in stock where i live and excatly the same price as the Tomohawk
The Tomahawk has better rear panel connectivity and audio
I subbed because your videos are informative and efficient, straight to the point and real info most average pc users understand.
OMG, just what I needed for my nephew's college pc build. I was looking for a MB for the upcoming 9950x3d at around $300 and this video came just in time. Thanks, Jason ! The timing is impeccable.
That's so great to hear! We really try with our timing and figured this would be useful for folks. So happy to help!
What did you decide on?
@@TheGandsta1 Momentarily on ASUS PRIME X670E PRO WIFI, but it's not discounted here in Eastern Europe, it's a little over $300
Great Stuff as always! Random ? - trying to setup my PS5 and my Gaming PC together on my desk setup. My PS5 does NOT recognize my KEF LSX ii speakers (I understand its something about PS only using an old UAC 1.0) right now my "work around" is HDMI to my acer predator xb283k and then 3.5 "headphone" out to my speakers. Will that setup work or should I look into purchasing a DAC instead of relying on the monitor to do the sound conversion?
Exactly what I needed! Putting a build together for my brother :)
Exciting! Best wishes on the build and glad I could help!
@PCBuilderChannel thank you! Always appreciate your videos!
Jason, nice video as always.
What would be for you the replacement of the Asrock Velocitá line?
hey jason!! been loving your content! i notice that the MSI mag tomahawk frequently gets recommended. I have an mATX build, where would the MSI mag mortar board fall in your recommendation categories? premium or midrange, or not at all? thank you!
It's one he recommends, and it's currently a decent price if in the US
Needed this vid badly THANK YOU🙏🏽💙
With all the new launches we hoped this would be useful!
Great video Jason ❤
I bought the GigaByte Gaming plus wifi board. It comes with a Ryzen 7700x and TForce 32 gb ram with only 480 cad cant say no to that..
Between this channel and gamersnexus i can always find the info i need. You are doing a phenomenal job, keep it up! (and you have saved me and my family SO much on windows and office keys! 🍻)
Thanks dude 👍🏽
You bet! Thanks for watching!
Thank god for this video I was gonna buy a motherboard based on your last video but a more recent one will help me make a better decision.
i gto a beautiful a seriers 500 series board for you bro..whats your telegram!
Hi Jason, you've really sold me on the ASUS Prime X670E with this and the build video prior, but having a hard time deciding between it and the MSI MPG Z790 Edge Ti Max WiFi as they're the same price in Canada. According to some sites it seems to perform better, despite having to go to intel, would the jump in performance be worth it?
So I looked at prices in Canada and I would actually go MSI Pro B650-A WIFI ATX over the ASUS Prime X670E.
It's a newer Motherboard but has good reviews and a similar look to the ASUS.
@@kelley09162hey I really appreciate the recommendation! Checked it out and will go with this if I go AMD. Cheers!
I had the Asrock Nova X870E, but ended up returning it to Newegg. It felt like overkill for my needs. So instead I grabbed the ASUS ROG B650E-F.
Hey Jason, How about MSI B650m Gaming plus Wifi for $158??? Is it worth it over Asrock hdv mobo???
I would say so yes
That board isn't sold much in the US so I don't know it well personally.
Essential video for a modern build! 💯
Thank you Thomas!! Hope you are having a great weekend!
I miss when a digital audio connector was basically standard on most motherboards. Now it is a "premium" feature that adds 50 bucks to the price.
im thinking about getting the gigabyte x870 aorus elite ice, my build is 9950x, 64gb ddr5 and 4080 super, 2 pcie 5 m.2
honestly suprised your didnt wait for black well or the 8800xt
also dont blow money on pcie 5 components..not unless youre doing serious work for it..just pick up an wd sn850x at 250 for 4tb..pcie 4..but lets be honest..who needs pcie 5 other than workers
I have ~$500 to upgrade my pc (2600 & 1070ti) should i go for the microcenter $399 7600x3d bundle and get a psu upgrade for a future gpu, or go for a 7800xt and wait until i can get the microcenter bundle
Unfortunately either way you'll be Bottlenecked. So no matter what you chose hopefully you'll be able to upgrade other parts soon.
You could also go 5700X3D on the CPU so save a little vs going for the 7600X3D Bundle.
In a “best” video I am surprised the nova phantom x870e and the asrock taichi x870e. Yea they are pricey, but not crazy like asus. But the design of the no compromise slots where they aren’t stealing bandwidth from the gpu is amazing!
Is the b650e Taichi worth getting for $265? Is there any other mother boards that compare to the taichi for less money?
I don't think so because you can find X870 Motherboards for that price or you can go regular B650 for less.
@@kelley09162alright, thanks for letting me know.
for me went with x870 as the b650 cost same if not more than the x870 at least i get usb 4 and newer model, retailers sees people buy old boards and they price it higher just do your research before buying
Hey, I was wondering if you think its not worth the money I save buying the 7700x microcenter bundle that comes with the Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX v2? My build is gonna have a 7900xt and Ive heard some people say that my lower tier motherboard will be bad for my build. What are thoughts? Id just like to save a little bit of money
No that's a totally fine Motherboard, but just note the 9700X Bundle is only $30 more I'd get that instead.
Unless you're just using it for Gaming then I'd say get the 7600X3D Bundle.
I was anticipating the “stop buying bad…” Jason.
How could you disappoint me? 😂
You know, I was just saying I regret not doing that here lol. I'll do better next time (;
You don’t recommend buying a 5900x, but, if I have one laying around are these boards still good?
Yes still good
Oh yes totally!
Everyone said to wait 😂 Good thing I didn't listen and decided to buy during the 15 percent flash sale from new egg. The best deals are in September. I purchased a 4070 ti super with an i9 14900k prebuilt pc for 1500. I then build one from new egg with a 7900 xtx build and it cost less that the 4070 tI super by 100 and had better ram with 3 tb storage. And way better looking. My experience, buy during September. Don't hold. Even during that month all GPUs and boards were on sale.
msib650m had 4 boards all had problems with customer builds so upgraded all of them.
Got that arous x870 ice. Its so beautiful
does it matter which brand b550 i get to pair with a ryzen 5600?
It shouldn't matter that much
Am I just used to laptops? I just finished a Project Zero B650 7600X 7800XT build this week. I love the system except the startup time. I get no signal for like 45 seconds before the mobo lights blink and the PZ logo pops and the Windows wheel starts spinning. With any new build, frequent restarts happened due to tuning which felt like it took hours longer than it needed to. Is quick startup a laptop only thing? Between work and home, this is the first desktop I've used in over a decade. This is my first desktop on SSD if that says anything. But my basic 2022 laptop is practically at Wlogin by the time the screen is opened. I looked for options in bios and Windows but didnt find anything. Pretty annoying.
Curious about the ROG STRIX X870-I as an am5 option for mini-itx
Can’t find many reviews on it
Considering the price it's not worth it in my opinion
I always like these episodes on fundamental things a lot, and this channel always remains a fundamental reference for us who love personal computers. 🤗
Got a 9700X and an ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-I. Paired with a XFX Merc 7900XTX, this system absolutely blows away my older 5800x3D+ 3090 setup. I might upgrade to 9800x3D but I haven't seen a decent ITX board to go with it, except for that insanely overpriced ASUS X870 board.
One thing that bugs me to no end is that the GPU is outrageously huge (343 mm length) so I had to go back to my older NR200 case as it wouldn't fit my NZXT H1 v2 or pretty much any other mini ITX board out there. I'm seriously thinking of selling the 7900XTX for a smaller card.
Gigabyte has a X870 ITX Board but it's White/Silver and currently out of stock.
Also just note the Sapphire Pulse 7900XTX is 313mm in length so that one would fit in more Cases.
i have intel 8700 and gtx 1060, should i upgrade the cpu, mb, ram first or gpu (7900gre/7800xt) first? thankyou
Both the CPU and GPU are older than I would keep honestly. Its time for an entirely new build, it will be more cost effective then trying to upgrade your current system. Check out our Best Budget Gaming PC 2024 video for some whole new builds options that would be better for you
okay, noted! thankyou for the info 😊
How did you not mention the Gigabye B650E Stealth? it’s the most beautiful board right now
Thank you so much for making such a video. I was just looking for a similar Video on youtube and your video poped up. Really Thank you and God Bless you
No problem! Good luck on your build!
I'm about to purchase a desktop intel i7 14700k,32gb ddr5 4800 and i tb ssd.All that in h610m h gigabyte motherboard.
Could you suggest a GPU, that does NOT bottleneck my cpu if i need two 4k monitors?
I do not recommend this at all. That's a terrible motherboard for a 14700k first of all, and I can't recommend 13th and 14th gen intel cpus right now due to the degradation issues. Is this a prebuilt? Please go watch our Best Prebuilt Gaming PC 2024 video before you spend money on this
@PCBuilderChannel Thank Note:I am not a gamer,i am a trader.
A terrible combo is still a terrible combo and degradation will effect you either way
I'm still waiting on my 9800X3d and I've been looking at the X870 Tomahawk and the X670E Tomahawk because a lot of redditors and youtubers seem to agree that it's a good board, if only a bit expensive which isn't an issue. If I'm not worried about cost, wouldn't it still be worth it to get a mobo that has the PCIe 5.0 slot if I'm already planning on getting the new 50 series card?
The X870 Tomahawk should be good in that's what you want, and the price isn't terrible.
*Can you recommend Motherboards that have the Wi-fi 7 standard? This is all old tech man.* 😅
X870 Motherboards come with Wi-Fi 7 if that's what you want.
Any thoughts on the B650 steel legend (I know you mentioned not loving the x870)? I find them in stock at 180 from time to time, but not sure how it stacks up to the tomahawk
Great board, personally I prefer the Tomahawk due to audio and rear panel but its solid if you like the look and don't mind the difference
Hey Jason, I wanted your thoughts on monitors. I really like curved monitors 1440 p and also 240 Hz. I have a samsung odyssey g7 and the msi 1440 p 165 monitor you recommended a year ago. I want to replace one with a oled but specifically curved with 1440 p and prefer 240 Hz. I narrowed it down to these 2 unless you recommend something else. Would love your thoughts
lg 34gs95qe-b vs msi mpg 341cqpx
I have a 4080 and a 14900 K, wish I had 7800 X3D but yeah. I play both competive games and graphic intensive games. Will still use monitor on the side.
Also love your content. Thanks for all you do for us.
The MSI has good reviews so I would choose that
You should check out our Best 1440p Gaming Monitor video! We cover our thoughts on OLED there and I just finished updating the recommendation links in the description for sales. Look for the ones marked with a fire emoji.
whats the final answer for the b650 steel legend wifi, does it have pcie 5.0 and they misspelled the manual? or does it not have it and every store just put it on their page because of miscommunication?
What do you think about the MSI X670E MAG Tomahawk WiFi with a 7950x3d ?
Micro center is having a bundle and I want to know if these actually work well together, let me know your thoughts thanks! Thanks for the perfectly timed video!
Yes good combo though Jason prefers the 7800X3D or 9800X3D to the 7950X3D.
@ thank you I appreciate it! Yeah I’m going to be using blender, doing video editing and trying my hand at some game design so I wanted something that could do all that plus enjoy some gaming on my off time
@@Mr.universe219 oh that's fair. It's too bad they don't have a 9900X Bundle.
What about the asrock steel legend b650
what do you think of aero g b650
Good board! Upgraded audio. Premium board just overpriced. If you find it at a good price go for it. MSI Tomahawk is cheaper right now and just as good in my opinion
surprised to not see the asrock B650M HDV/M.2 on this list as its $99 sale rn for M-ATX board. seems to be a great option
why would that surprise you? this guy hates asrock he always leaves them off all his lists
@@chattifactorynot ALWAYS. At 14:00 he recommended the ASRock B650M Pro.
is a gigabyte b650 gaming x ax v2 good for a ryzen 5 7600x?
yes its fine its just overpriced compared to our picks. But if you find it on a good deal its comparable to the midrange picks here
@@PCBuilderChannel found one for £120 on amazon
Ok have a question to see if people can help me out here. My current build is a 3800x, rx 5700xt and 16gb of ram. I'm thinking of upgrading rn to a 5700x3d and 7900 gre with 32gbs ram but I could instead get a laptop (zen4 r7 and rx 7700 xt mobile) and then upgrade later, how much would tariffs impact me in the US? Would it be smarter to do my upgrades now and wait until deals come back later into next year for a laptop, or do the opposite?
For my pc I first bought a cheap b550 micro-atx it kinda broke so now I got an atx a little more expensive, hopefully I won't need to upgrade for a long time
Wished you also included Laptops/Mac's sometimes 🙃
Choices and costs are all over the place ... dont know what to pick anymore ... Lenovo, Apple MacBook's, Acer, Samsung, Chromebooks, oled screens or LCD, 13 inch or 16 inch, go with 8GB Ram or upgrade to 16GB, battery life ... its crazy town 🤠😅
We don't cover apple products but you can check out our Best Gaming Laptop 2024 video. I actually just finished updating the links in the description there. Look for the ones marked with a fire emoji
@@PCBuilderChannel "Best Gaming Laptop 2024" ... i've must have missed that one 🤔 Thx, i'll check it out!
I decided to be a little dumb and grab a X670E board instead of a more reasonable chipset. I got the Asrock X670E Pro RS because it had more than 4 SATA ports (I have 5 SATA drives still) and it also happened to be literally the cheapest X670E board available. It cost me 240€ at the time which was about the same price as an expensive B650 board and I figured since basically every X670 motherboard has good VRMs unlike some other generations and the cheaper B650 boards can vary, I figured it'd be a decent option that's still expensive, but not horribly expensive and gives me everything I need. I am gambling a little bit on the PCIE5 slot being useful in the future, but I figured this would set me up for the next 6 years at least in terms of support for anything. Time will tell, it's always a bit of a gamble. I don't use the onboard audio, so I don't mind too much that it doesn't have a great codec and the wifi chip is easily accessible for any future upgrades or if something goes wrong with it.
For perspective, every other X670E besides the PG lightning (270€) and MSI gaming (230€) boards were over 300 or 400 euros.
Mini itx boards for intel 12 to 14gen,am5 were pricy and so thats why i went B550 amd but there also not much to choose and scarce.got asrock am4
this guy timing so great
Are b650e worth it?
Check out the chipset section of the video!
You need to differentiate the M.2 to the CPU vs through the (overloaded) chipset.
Direct to the CPU gives 4 dedicated PCIe lanes per drive.
Via the chipset makes umpteen devices share 4 lanes.
im going with the B650E PG RIPTIDE with the 9800x3d hopefully it works
Fine board! For the price its not competitive with the premium boards I recommend here but if you've found it at a great price thats fine.
I want 4k 240 fps capable on my next PC in games like space Marine 2 just waiting for possible new LG tvs or Sony to make a giant gaming tv with 240hrtz
LETS GOOOOOOOOO thanks ffor the best ryzen boards
You bet! All the new stuff we had to do an update (:
How about b650m?
can you help me to build a micro atx pc gaming with amd ryzen 7 9800x3d? (1500$ budget)
Check out our 9800X3D build guide!
I really want an asrock b650m pro rs wifi is my favorite budget b650 motherboard... We don't want to spend a lot of money on this banger.
Would love to see a bit more focus on Mini-ITX, as a lot of us are space constrained. On the Mini ITX front why not put a mention out to the ASROCK A620i Lightning Wifi - Thats on for $119.99 at Newegg. Sure you lack the ability to overclock, however in a Mini PC setup your often cooling restrained anyway so Overclock is likely not much of an option anyway. whichever way you cut it its nearly half the price of your recommended M-ITX board, thats a big saving.
I personally wouldn't recommend a board that doesn't allow for PBO even in a Mini ITX. See our Mini ITX build guide on the channel for more. But to each their own of course!
10:59 🐈⬛
Recommend getting a new GPU now because of Sales or wait out for RTX 5000 and RX 8000
Really depends on you! See our Black Friday GPU Prices video we go over out thoughts on this in detail there
i dont understand one part: i really struggle finding motherboards that have headers for usb 3.2 AND USB type c below like 150. even though most modern cases have one or more normal type A USB 3.2 sockets and at least 1 usb type c. it makes it really difficult to build budget pc's in these cases
Let’s gooo!
Let's goooo!
Nvogldc comes up a lot of times when I'm shutting down my computer and slows down shut down procedure should I be worried
Hey there! I'm not 100% sure but I believe that is related to your NVIDIA GPU. It's a sign something isn't running properly, but hard to say if it is impacting your system performance. Might want to post a troubleshooting post in the r/buildapc reddit.
Thank you
What is the best cpu for a rtx 3090 for gaming? 😁
Depends on what you're using the PC for
@kelley09162 sorry, for gaming.
@@Capitan-f5d Then I would go AM5. 7600X, 7600X3D, 7800X3D, or 9800X3D would all be great choices here. It just depends on what your budget is.
@@kelley09162 is there a huge difference between the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d?
Newegg has a 319 auros x870 with free 32 gb corsair ram, i figured this was a good deal. I'm am building around the 9800x3d I snagged.
Nice! Check out our 9800X3D build guide if that's helpful
@@PCBuilderChannel thank you! Will do!
I bought the eagle AX and it arrived yesterday but you've convinced me to just pay the extra 40 bucks to go to a tomahawk. I splurged on my 7800x3d cpu and will buy AMD's top end gpu, I shouldn't I'm exchanging it rn.
7000? did you get it for like 350 ish? otherwise just send it back for 9000
@ I bought it two months ago before the 9800 was announced so it’s outside the return window. Also, the 9800 is out of stock everywhere. Not worth the trouble I’m good with the 7800
@@RCunderscore two months ago..oh thats okay then..you musta got it while it was deep discounted..yeah i see only the microcenters have them
@ i missed when it was SUPER discounted down at like 350 but I got it for 419, I’m pretty happy with that. It’s a great chip. But I haven’t built yet since I’m waiting on the new gpus
@@RCunderscore yeah i picked up a couple of items..laptop is starting to go at 5.5 years..just need the oled screen..mb and im going to let the hype die down for 9800xd..amd usually like to discount it after a while..if it gets down to 420 that be a decent price..and yeah im looking for AMD as well..UNLESS..Nividia say brings us a 5070 within 10% of a 4090 at least 16gb and preferably a 256 bus..if they do that for like 550-650..and its better than the AMD..then yeah okay..pretty sure theyre gonna offer shitty products again though..historallically the 70 should be close to the top sku from last gen..so it should be that way..
Sure is weird seeing new gen stuff wonder if I should upgrade anytime soon.
I always say only upgrade if you are unhappy with your current pc performance. There's always going to be new stuff coming (:
Depends on what board you have if you have 670 or 670e no reason to move to 870 no difference at all
Just bought 6 months old used pc which msi b650 gaming plus WiFi mobo
Nice! What's the GPU/CPU Combo?
@@PCBuilderChannel ryzen 7600x, rx 7900gre, 32gb 6000mhz ram fury beast, thermaltake gf a3 1050w (don't know why previous user got this psu), msi mag aio
🙂😺👍Take care mate. ✌