THE GREY KNIGHTS: ORIGINS | Warhammer 40k Lore
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The Grey Knights are a secret and mysterious Chapter of Space Marines specifically tasked with combating the dangerous daemonic entities of the Warp and all those who wield the corrupt power of the Chaos Gods. They were created by the Emperor with the aid of Malcador the Sigillite at the time of the Horus Heresy to serve as Humanity's greatest weapon against the threat posed by the existence of Chaos.
The existence of the Chapter is virtually unknown outside of the Inquisition and the highest echelons of the Imperial adepta, and is a well-guarded secret enforced by mind-wipes and even assassination of Imperial citizens if necessary.
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Why would I wish to induldge myself in a safer method of shaving my balls? Have the ruinous powers of chaos not taught you a thing?
For Nugle, the father of decay, the mere idea of trying to halt the decay of your ballsack is a fruitless and outright insulting idea. In so leaving your nether region alone, you'll come to invite the beauty of rot to fester and for new life such as flies and maggots to take root.
Khorne, as we all well know cares little from whence the blood flows, as long as it flows. Would the blood from a ballsack related cut not suffice as a gesture of obedience to the god violence?
For Slaanesh, it might at first seem that a clean and perfect method of grooming your walls would be a good idea. But fall not for these lowly and simplistic interpretations of she who thirsts. For is the pain of snipping or cutting your balls not something to be pursued in the in the eyes of the prince of pleasure?
While Tzeentch no doubt has an eye for a well shaven ballsack, the act of investing in a method which gives such similar and predictable results is to take away another avenue of trickery. In the effective method showcased, would that also not deprive the changer of ways the constant change in grooming quality between shavings?
While this is a perfectly good deal and something you should persue in the eyes of the corpse emperor. Forget not the teachings of the warp and the endless knowlage for which it hides.
I live in the Midwest, and Bricky is absolutely right. It gets hot here in the summer and my balls stink like nothing Nurgle has ever sniffed. Use Manscaped or your balls will look and smell like a Catachan Jungle Fighter’s sweaty and stinky armpits.
Thank you for another video!
You know that feeling when someone calls you by the real name and you suddenly realize how screwed you are? That's how demons experience when MC hammer appears out of nowhere.
That feeling when your mom says your first and middle name. You know you fucked up
My true name is a Yiddish one. Haven’t met an inquisitor with enough phlegm to threaten me.
How often do you get called by your fake name? lol
Grey Knights: (Unspeakable deamonic sounds)
Deamon: .......... Fucking shit
(Slaneesh with the leash, Khorne with the belt axe, Nurgle with the cauldrun slipper behind. Their kids): What did you do?! What did he do?!
Deamon: we were playing tag....
Gods: (See the arm and leg ripped off clean and the Grey Knight cover in wounds barely holding on)
Calling a demon by their true name is like their equivalent of getting doxxed on the internet. You're having fun screwing around, then someone comes along who can put a name face and location to your avatar, and suddenly things get very scary.
Malcador has done so much heinous shit the guy he confesses to kills himself, but Malc clones him because there’s still more to confess. This has repeated multiple times.
😭 broooo
said suicidal therapist is also a genetically engineered human-eldar hybrid
Where is this from?
When you resurrect your therapist because you weren't done talking yet, Malcador moment.
I'm so incredibly glad there's no one here defending him doing that lmao
Since the episode with Drago is next week this is the perfect opportunity for Bricky to hit DK with one of Drago's *unhinged* quotes and confuse the fuck out of him.
"Have you ever tried a TANGERINE?"
I don't even know if this is a joke anymore. What layer of irony are we on?
@@LurkinHandworker It's from TTS, so yes, it is a joke.
Have you seen my beard?
It is full of TINY MEN.
@@beskarbaron6503the best one
*NO SUN*
Surprised Bricky didn't mention Fel Zharost as one of the founding members, who was the former Chief Librarian of the Night Lords.
Sigma Chad
Even the HH books barely feature him in one very short story 🤷
The idea that a Night Lords Marine became a Grey Night who now hunts and haunts DEMONS is the most Night Lords thing I have ever heard.
Well, I know what I'm converting the librarian from the Leviathan box into.
That's actually awesome. A loyalist night lord has got to be a dope story
One of my favorite Space Marine stories and Grey Knight stories specifically is that one time that a bunch of Grey Knights actually saved a bunch of Eldar soulstones and when they handed them back to the Eldar they were so respectful and polite it caught the Eldar off guard and they were actually nice to someone that wasn't an Eldar for once
I love that!!!!
Not only that, but Eldar leader agreed to remember the name of the fallen Grey Knight, Anval Thawn*, writing it into their own histories:
"‘If you would praise the architect of Malan’tai’s deliverance, then remember he who gave his life most selflessly to defend it. He martyred himself so that we - so that I - might live to fight on against the daemon-spawn.’
The seer nodded.
‘So shall it be. This warrior shall be noted in the annals of my people.’
Pelenas replaced his helm with a snap-hiss of pressurisation, and made to leave with his battle-brothers. ‘Then always remember the name of Anval Thawn.’
The eldar’s eyes widened, almost imperceptibly, and he faltered for a moment before glancing at his fellow seers. Pelenas caught a flicker of alarm in the creature’s aura, before it was swallowed once more in a careful projection of calm indifference, and his alien features broke in a forced simulacrum of a smile.
‘So shall it be.’"
*At the time of this book, Anval Thawn was the last known Perpetual, but that has since been retconned.
@@rickraddue2785 why did the the Eldar seer get so surprised?
We slowly getting closer to talking about the legend, master hams, the king of beards and craziest madman in the entirety of 40k. KALDOR DRAIGO!!
They normally do faction leader then the faction itself so surprised they haven't already mentioned draigo
Petition for Adeptus Historicus, in which Bricky and DK learn about history through Shy’s immaculate use of memes.
Draigo being so op makes more sense when you have the headcanon that the noble shard of Magnus that got put into the first supreme grand master gets tranferred into every new one, maybe via the titansword.
That.....could actually be really cool and engaging if they reveal it right in the modern setting.
..........& meme magic
My head cannon is that his beard is full of tiny men. We are not the same.
@@hardcorespawn9954 Please! Kill them all!
But have you ever eaten a tangerine?!
40:30 Here's the good news. Those given the Emperor's Mercy "by" a Grey Knight are the souls most likely to gain the attention of Big E "in" the warp. On a painfully related side note, I remain convinced this is how the Legion of the Damned do their recruiting.
Amazing head cannon!
I respect your take, but we don't even know for a fact the Emperor HAS a Domain in the Warp.
And unlike the other Chaos Gods, whose Domains are always teeming with life, whenever someone "meets" the Emperor in the Warp they describe an Abandoned Church in an Empty City, with the streets paved with fragments of Bone.
So...
@@ahoyturtle I enjoy when head canon is backed up by actual canon. Celistine and her choir were proven to be a warp based source of power during the fall of Cadia. Either it "is" Big E, or Tzeentch pulling a 4,000 year joke on the Imperium. Both point to a presence in the warp at least pretending to be him like Grayfax wants Celistine to be. And if "anything" can draw the Presence if not the attention of a warp based Big E, I'm pretty sure his own Geneseed would be a precedent.
...
Lastly who do you use to decapitate a "potentially" traitor Space Marine Chapter with the least amount of blood shed? You field the Custodes or the Grey Knights. If not both. Emperor's Mercy begins to sound like a somewhat happier version of the "God will know his own" RR Inquisition joke.
@@ahoyturtle Side note, Big E's ideal perfection was NEVER in the warp to begin with, unlike many of his sons. No wonder "any" vestige of it within, is both Spartan and Stark to a God who NEVER.... wanted to be here in the first place, his kingdom is in the Materium..... not some warp spawned verdant fantasy. That it resembles something he regrets, doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
@@danielbob2628 You say the Flesh is weak to a man who never once had a single implant in 90,000 years before hopping on a Necron lighthouse to become a lantern mantle....Personally I think this is why GW had issue with TTS, but only THROUGH tts does anyone have even the slightest clue what Gilliman's ULTRADEPRESSION is even about.
You forgot about Janus(The first Supreme Grandmaster) who was given the loyal shard of Magnus when he was created.
Revuel Arvida was infused with the loyal shard of magnus when he started to succumb to the Fleshchange. And this process created Janus. Here’s hoping this comes up in the next part on the grey knights
Cool thing about Janus, the 1st Supreme Grandmaster, is that his Gene-Seed was probably used to create the Blood Ravens, and that is the reason the Blood Ravens have a fairly good relations with the Grey Knights.
Next episode I would like to see DK react to this fact
@@ItamarO93 this sounds more like just a theory
I’m 90% sure the grey knights are just using a stabilized version of magnus’ geneseed that history has forgotten to time so they just call it the emperor’s due to the immense psychic power.
If I had a nickle for every time someone fought Mortarion during the Siege of Terra and let themselves get impailed to hit Mortarion in the throat, I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot, but its wierd it happened twice
(Literally a few days later Khan does the exact thing Garro did, only he succeeded in killing/banishing Mortarion)
Mortarion: Surely that will never happen aga-
*gets beheaded*
Mortarion in the Warp: fuk
Mortarion might want to consider being less apathetic… oh wait.
to be fair he went on to kick Guilliman's butt. only for Robert to use cheat codes to obtain god mode.
@@Lazrael32I mean, that's only fair. Mortarion's entire play in those books was to use hax and the ultimate cheat (the titular Godblight) to kill Roboute. All Bobby G did was to pull out the ultimate 'No U" play
@@draochvar9646 he lured guilliman into a trap. If his plague was a cheat code then so is guilliman's sword. If you expect a plague lord to not use.... plagues... then i'm not sure what else he is supposed to do.
Tonite on AdRic: DK summons a higher daemon of Slaanesh, Shy whips out a warp infused bong and Brick- THEY KNOW TOO MUCH. THEY SAW TOO MUCH. TERMINATE AND EXPUNGE.
Noice ^_^
To quote 1d4chan -
When the Grey Knights arrive on the scene, it is already too late for everybody else: the great enemy already has all the cards, the dark gods have now found purchase into the material realm, the battle is effectively lost, and no number of battle tanks or titan god-machines will reverse the inevitable... and that is where the Grey Knights are forced to begin their fight. So, regardless of what anybody else says, be proud of your silver dudes. For while they may be sometimes deployed as a preemptive force, Grey Knights are more often typically wrestling victory from the jaws of not only certain-defeat but a point where defeat has already happened. To win even when everything is already lost. They're the last prayer, they're final hail mary, the last roll of the dice. Don't be surprised if they lose, because everything is so stacked up against them. But when they actually win, that's something.
Grey Knights will always be an interesting bunch for me. First grandmaster being a loyalist thousand son powered up by the last loyal shard of Magnus, all psykers, Kaldor Draigo of Ordo Draigo being a meme, and them knowing the names of countless daemons to pull a "parents calling you by your full name" thing. They're just really cool once you learn a lot about them.
Isn't there story where a "silver knight" that's theorised to be a grey knight fights all the way through all of slaaneshs' layers of excess, all the way up to the doors of the prince of pleasures' castle or whatever only to experience a shred of hesitation on seeing slaanesh themselves face, and immediately falling from that?
It's not a confirmed Grey Knight but it is a prime suspect
Draigo! He has beard wizards!
I thought that was a Bretonnian knight from warhammer fantasy lore.
The reason i dont think its a Grey Knights is throughout the story, the silver knight recounts often his younger years, which Grey Knights lose all memory of who they were pre-initiates so that kinda conflicts, but they could retcon that.
@@jacobgale4792depends on what he means by “younger years,” because that could mean anything from “my childhood” to “an indeterminate time when I was younger than I am now”
The past like 3 episodes have all had Macho Man cream of the crop references and I'm absolutely living for it
Where might one get those Khans you gave there?
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In the game chaos gate deamonhunter on steam
You're a Grey knight commander fighting a nurgle infection, an inquisitor of the ordo maleus comes to demand your assistance. But when you ask her how she knew you existed, she's says she didn't that the inquisition gave her coordinates. So, the fact that only a few inquisitors actually know of their existence is really cool I find.
Dude that game is so good!
@@teamcybr8375 still haven't finished but my boy we are the hammer
Have you encountered the chaos titan war hound yet?
@@rolhnschmidt8780 no not yet !
@@sardaukar6635 Lemme tell you, it sucks.
As to how the Grey Knights had become a Chapter in the decades spent in the warp on Titan after the Hersey, it is stated that the base of Titan had been prepared with scores of equipment, servitors, other important necessities, and most importantly, numerous prospective recruits brought by the Sisters of Silence to the planet for trials to become an Astartes
Hope you talk about the "Months of Shame" in the next video. Grey Knights take on Angron on Armaegeddon and than get into a Cold War with the Space Wolves.
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: DK begins to prepare the hams which is a reference DK won't get but that doesn't shock anyone, Bricky meets Grand Master Voldus to compare psyker magic using their massive foreheads in what has been now dubbed ''the battle of the bulge uwu'' and Shy steals a Nemesis Dreadknight which surprises absolutely no-one because they look ridiculous so she must suffer the consequences of looking like a fool
Man, first thing I do when an AR episode is up is to search for your comment, and they always crack me up. Thank you for always managing to make me chuckle
@@jackmesrel4933 Thanks mate, means alot
Just a little guy in a dread knight
Poor DK, only one of us in walk both flesh and vtuber realm, still cannot find a maiden
is that a badger reference i see
It wasn't a couple of decades warp-time, DK. Big E had had a fully outfitted fortress built on Titan, complete with a vault of his own gene-seed. The eight space marines were left there with thousands of serfs & new recruits. Malcador moved Titan in to the warp, where it was protected by macro-gellar fields & special incantations and wards of Malcador's own devising. It re-appeared in real space a decade later, but for the chapter it had been centuries, during which they had been training.
I love that lore!
I had some Grey Knights after they got their first rules in Realm of Chaos.
You could take allied Imperial Guard and Space Marines but any allied survivors at the end didnt count towards victory as it was assumed they would all be killed or mind wiped by the Grey Knights afterwards and effectively lost.
Hoping Hyperion gets a mention in the character episode as he's cool, he's possibly the strongest living grey knight in current lore as he wasn't part of the chapter's death by angron mission this time and we know who he was before he become a grey knight.
400 episodes in and we FINALLY get around to Grey Knights 😅
Amen dude 😂been waiting
As a Grey Knight fanboy whose been watching since ep 1 this is entirely overdue
But it does sorta fit, the super secret order was hidden and forgotten by the 40k historians lol
@@kendaar9002 hahahaha yeah, that'll play. It's as good of an explanation as we're likely to get
Malcador sent the dude to find the right guys and gals... Malcador also raised Alpharius... The name of all 8 space marines were changed and one came from a unknown legion... Malcador trained Alpharius to be undetectable and unnoticeable... They are a chapter with no Primarchs, and yet they have their own gene seed... They are all psyckers... They are the most secretive organization in the Imperium (even more then the Assassins)... Hmmmmmmmmm...
Also, I'm Alpharius and this is a lie...
Worryingly plausible.
It always struck me as weird that Eldar players complain about having models that weren't updated since the 80's. I mean, the models being unchanging is just GW making the models lore accurate
The proto grey knights were called the knights errant, pretty strong on table top but only two models. The Horus heresy series sets up the grey knights creation throughout it, two characters come across titan hidden in a warpstorm created by malcador being turned into a fortress world, along with garo getting alot of play throughout as a knight errant
Fun fact, Jaghatai used the same move of shoving himself down Mortarian's scythe to kill him (Jaghatai snapped his neck rather than stabbing him though)
The timing on this episode is great, I’ve been binging daemonhunters and really vibin with grey knights lately
Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt it theorized that the Silver Knight of Slaanesh is a Grey Knight who made it ALL THE WAY through Slaanesh's realm only to be corrupted by them in person?
For all of Malcador's Titles and Names. I still find it amusing none of them used the letter I as a Capital First Letter.
(Remember the Inquisition didn't exist just yet.)
Its almost like Malc went, "Okay what letter have I not used yet?"
I suppose you could take it to be a symbol of his status as imperial regent. Having an M just wouldn't be as catchy though.
I suppose you could take it to be a symbol of his status as imperial regent. Having an M just wouldn't be as catchy though.
@@consolescrub4031 if the M was big, rounded and yellow then it would be catchy. People would look at it and go 'I'm loving it'
@@williansnobre Point but what if we had a sentient lamp come in and step on the I so it's out of the Pixar- I mean picture?
@@consolescrub4031 I don't know why but ma brain keeps insisting Emperium starts with an E. Totally my problem.
I was really hoping one of the Bricky quotes was going to be "HAVE YOU EVER EATEN A TANGERINE?"
In the Garro audio books it refers to his armour as the "colour of ghosts" which on one hand I like, but on the other, the way they narrator pronounces that phrase is one hell of a meme in our gaming group.
Bricky: Nobody knows the Grey Knights exists except a handful of Space Wolfs and the Ordo Malus.
Also Bricky: yeah one of the first books I read talked about a stand off between Azreal of the Dark Angels, also Azreal had his DeathWing Hokies there
Thank you for slightly having DK voice be muffled by the intro music. I will enjoy any amount of time he is not talking
I’m pretty sure there’s this one gray knight that fell to slanessh after a single moment of hesitation, after fighting through every single level of the pleasure gods realm
i suspect that loken will be the guy who dies at the hands of horus when Big E gets slain.
making Big E slay horus in return.
I got that ham
One grey knight did fell to chaos infact! He was task on killing slanessh but quickly fell once seeing the prince. Now they're referred as the Silver Knight of Slanessh
I don't dislike the theory, since Warhammer is a setting with many exceptions to absolutes, but the fans aren't convinced whether he was actually a Grey Knight, or just "a knight in silver armor".
It's been brought up that there's no mention of the Silver Knight being a Psyker, nor his armor harming Daemons (which Aegis Armor will), so I'd call it... Contested.
In regard to logistics, Titan was already stocked up before being shunted into the warp. It was actually an accountant who figured out someone was diverting resources into Titan. It turned out to be Malcador and because he was ultra sus, sent agents to kill said accountant until Garro showed up and rescued accountant. It was detailed in a short story but can't remember the title.
iirc, there's another story in one of the anthologies (Silent War or Eye of Terra?) where some injured veterans are stuck in a stranded refugee ship full of injured soldiers and orphans. They run across a loyal Thousand Son and it's implied that the ships are intended for Titan. Loyal veteran soldiers for the inquisition and orphans for Grey Knights recruitment.
I've heard the Grey Knights don't do the "kill all witnesses" thing, post-Cadia. Simply because, with the Cicatrix Maledictim cutting the entire galaxy in half and daemons pouring out like a tide, it's legitimately impossible to keep it a secret. Much less counterproductive to even try. The cat is out of the bag.
Although prior to that, the Grey Knights working to purge all witnesses neatly justifies battles on the tabletop between them and other Imperium forces. The two sides just got done purging daemons, the Grey Knights said "you know too much, you have to die now", and the other Imperium force says "lol, no" and leveled their weapons in kind. Roll initiative.
In regards to how the grey knights had the material and stuff to become a fully fledged chapter, malcador prepared candidates, weapons, armors, ships, and servants for the chapter prior to tossing titan into the warp.
Really surprised that Bricky didn't bring up the "disagreement" between the Grey Knight and the Space Wolves. I thought that was where we were going but went to the Dark Angels instead.
The feeling demons have when grey knights say their true names must be the same I get when I hear my mom call me by my full name.
"Oh, i didnt even know Malcador had a symbol."
😂 the dude is called "the Sigillite" for a reason, DK
If I remember right is that the reason none of the full to chaos is that one of their training steps is basically hitting them one after another with every possible temptation they can concieve of that chaos has, and if they don't get past that then they don't get to be a grey knight in the first place.
Up to and including getting possessed intentionally, yes
Time for a bonus speckle of lore? you bet it is!
The first Grandmaster of the Knights, Janus, was given a turbo boost of power as e was actually combined wit a small fragment of the broken soul of Magnus the red himself- te full story is more spoiler heavy so not ruining it wit more details here!
Which book is this from?
It's cool lore but that's pretty much his lore he's not got much lore outside of the HH books.
I always have the headcanon that the noble shard of Magnus gets transferred into every new supreme grandmaster, explaining why Draigo is so freaking op.
8:30 you cannot hide your shame, we all see that Ifunny Watermark
And it only took GK getting an actually cool rule(only one though, cant be having too much fun) for a lore video. I can only imagine the things DK is going to have to say when he hears about who the Grey Knight gene seed is derived from.
Who's it from?
@@megaloodon6240 I think their geneseed is from Magnus but I could be wrong.
@@dylanpino3359 It's the emprah
@@dylanpino3359Yeah it’s the emperor. One of the founders was a thousand son tho
@@unbekannteslp7687 Technically two if we count the shard that got transfused into Janus.
You guys should do a video on the battle of Helsreach which in my opinion is one of the best last stands in Warhammer
It always surprised me that you hadn't done a Grey Knights episode. I'm glad the time is finally upon us.
LET'S GO GREY KNIGHTS BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been waiting so long for my favorite faction to get it's own episode, and it's finally here !!
Indeed, Leutin09 has on several occasions stated that Nathaniel Garro is his favorite character within the 40k lore.
You guys need to do an episode on Nathaniel Garro the dude is what the Death Guard should have been, like he does so much during the Heresy like he almost kills Abaddon during the siege of Terra
Started sweating when Bricky mentioned 5th edition but fortunately the story with the Sisters wasn't mentioned.
God damn it, Matt Ward.
Elaborate
@@TheRickyJZ uh. Grey knights bathed in the blood of the sisters
@@deadgunslinger8489 oh. That’s just weird.
@@TheRickyJZ i know
@@deadgunslinger8489and Matt didn’t at all think that was a common Khornate action.
At 4:38 that "dammit" from DK had such visceral PASSION behind it. I REALLY felt that one chief, the pain, oh the pain
Bricky's proclivity to swap out the names of the Lord of Change and the Keeper of Secrets both tickles my fancy and makes me irrationally mad. IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE TZEENTCH ONE TO BE CALLED KEEPER OF SECRETS TOO
Bricky: "Have you cut your balls? Do you want to cut your balls less? I think so"
You don't know what I'm into Bricky
Drago did do it, Azrael was wiped, he just thought he saw another Astartes.
I've waited for this episode since covid began
Draigo be like: Fall to chaos? *does a line of warp dust* NOT EVEN CLOSE BABYYYY!
I’d love to see Bricky teach DK about the Celestial Lions. Such a tragic story without all the torture-porn of the Lamenters.
In The Emperor’s Legion, it’s heavily implied that the events around the opening of the Great Rift have resulted in the Grey Knights being deployed in ways where maintaining their secrecy is no longer practical or necessary. Also that the existence of they Grey Knights was an open secret to higher ups in the imperium.
Also the Ciaphas Cain series plays much more loosely with how secret the existence of Chaos is and how much it will corrupt people.
All the Grey Knight founder names were changed to mythological Titan names (well not all titans necessarily). Yotun -> Jotunn (norse giant); Iapto -> Iapetus (greek titan); Epimetheus -> Epimetheus (another greek titan) and so on
48:34
A grey knight falling to Chaos Coruption would be a huge deal. For better or for worse.
Bricky: I'm pretty sure that Grey Knights are the only playable faction that we haven't covered yet.
Me, a Thousand sons player: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"The man who lives in the Warp. Bye."
"WHAT???!!!"
FINALLY FUCKING TALKING ABOUT LOKEN
IT’S ABOUT FUCKING TIME HE NEEDS HIS OWN EPISODE
Judging by what the Emperor offers Magnus in the latest Magnus book it's quite possible he was supposed to adopt the grey knights and become their primarch had he rejoined the loyalists. In fact since the construction of the monastery on Titan and all the unique gadgets there ajnd since we know Magnus was meant to sit on the golden throne it's, in my opinion, possible that the emperor meant for magnus to lose his original sons and instead adopt a new, pure, legion of psykers.
Apparently that is untrue, a portion from the echoes of eternity when vulkan confronts Magnus:
Vulkan was relentless, his voice growing firmer. ‘How could the Emperor ever trust you now? Why would He offer you a new Legion, let alone a place at His side? You dreamed up your own redemption, just to give yourself something to rage against. Because you need to feel as though you are the one choosing, not having the choices made for you. The creature that exalted you will never let you see the chains that bind you to its will.’
There never was a possible redemption, just the ravings of a mad gods mad pawn
@@JosephHead There's a lot of speculation that unreliable narration may be at play surrounding that whole debacle. I've seen a lot of debate that at some point during that conversation Magnus wasn't speaking with Vulkan anymore, but rather was speaking with the Emperor through Vulkan.
It's all up to personal interpretation of course.
@@bozeiai think it was out right stated in the book that it was the Emperor speaking to Magnus the entire time during the vision, When the vision ends and we get Vulkan’s perspective, and he has literally zero clue whats happened to Magnus.
@@Bugeye0704 Oh, that's interesting! I did read through the excerpt, but I read through it on Reddit. Reddit users are, um...pretty passionate about their personal interpretations of the text. I was seeing a lot of back and forth on it. I have my own biases so I'm trying to not let it color my words and assumptions toooooo much.
I was under the impression that the tip off was when "Vulkan" brought up something he shouldn't have known and Magnus questioned who he really was, and I think a lot of people highlighted that as being significant.
Was that the part where it's all but stated? It sort of felt like there were also a ton of people who didn't catch that or didn't view that as significant.
@@bozeia yeah, during the vision “Vulkan” talks about the Emperor’s perspective on the offer (the quote above is only part of it). Magnus realises that Vulkan cannot know the things he’s talking about. When the vision ends. Vulkan has zero clue what has happened to Magnus and doesn’t mention any vision, however he does observe that Magnus isn’t looking at him, he is looking over Vulkan’s shoulder, as if another presence is standing behind him. Immediately the Emperor begins telling Vulkan to kill Magnus.
I’m actually surprised there’s any kind of debate on it 😂 the book makes it quite clear it’s the Emperor.
The urge to image brickys clean ballshack when he talked about mansckaped was to great
YESSSSSSSSSS LETS GOOOOO GREY KNIGHTS !!!!!! WHOWWWWWWWWWWW I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EP!!!! FOR THE LONGEST TIME!
Some brother
"We're going on a trip to save Big Emps and his shit. Zooming through the sky, Little Eisenstein."
"Climb aboard, we have to warn Dorn. Horus has gone mad, and has turned bad."
A daemon's true name isn't just words of banishment. A daemon's true name can kill them. Not send them back to the warp, permenantly kill them. Grey knights often have hunting parties to track down a specific high-level daemon they have the true name of
Adds new flavour to "I've got a bullet with your name on it!"
Oh my god. They did it. They finally did it. They finally cover the Grey Knights.
I've waited so long since this channel started
They don't fall to chaos because they have a diet recipe of the Emperor's anathema powers.
Malcador is basically Palpatine.
_"We are the Grey Knights"_ - Alpha Legion
Theres the “silver knight of slaanesh” that could be a case of the only grey knight falling to chaos.
YES! I have waited so long for this! Where are my son's of Titan?
Soo, months of shame next time? That one is pretty iconic
17:16 "the strongest psycher of all time after the emperor"
Average eldar during the war in heaven:
This is the one I was waiting for
Bricky: "We don't have the Imma Tank on a green tank top because we don't have green tank tops."
Me: Go get some you fool
Grey Knights are cool because Halberds and polearms in general are based
Any weapon that the medieval Chads decided are warcrime material has to be based
guys storm of iron was free on youtube until it got copyright strike but the book is amazing!
Wasn't there a story with a grey knight going through the palace of Slanesh, braving all tentations only to submit to slanesh when facing him at the end of his quest ? Sounds like falling to chaos
Azreal to Draigo: "This is the Sword of Secrets. Want to know how many snooping Inquisitors & meddling mind readers, I've killed with it? I'LL NEVER TELL! BECAUSE IT IS A SECRET!!!"
What I think about the whole "No Grey Knight has fallen to chaos" thing, it probably goes like this:
Inquisitor: "You sure none of you have fallen ever?"
Grey Knight: "None, ever"
Inquisitor: "I've checked your records, what about brother Wolfe 20 years ago?"
Grey Knight: "Ah well brother Wolfe wasn't a true Grey Knight!"
Inquisitor: "What do you mean?"
Grey Knight: "If he was a true Grey Knight the grace of the emperor would have prevented him from falling!"
LETS FUCKING GO! IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A GREY KNIGHTS EPISODE FOR SO LONG
Maybe the fact that no Grey Knights have turned as opposed to half the Primarchs is the ultimate proof that The Emperor royally fucked up by keeping Chaos secret.
fans may be surprised that Grey Knights don't often work alongside Black Templars, until you remember that all GK's are psychers
I really hope you guys read the Siege of Terra books eventually. Absolutely incredible books
Real quick on the Garro thing. The group wasn't the Agentia Primus. They were the Knights-Errant of which Garro WAS the Agentia Primus. Which I literally think is a fancy way of saying Prime Agent. Basically just meaning he was the number 1, Malcador's right hand man.
How to create an historical analog to Malcador?
Take the political clout and power of cardinal Rechilieu, Bismark, Himmler, Beria and Hoover (the FBI one, not the POTUS), take the brains of Machiavelli and Heydrich (in Nazi Germany they said: "Himmlers Hirn heißt Heydrich" = "Himmler's brain is called Heydrich"), the mystic powers of Merlin and garnish it finally with the Old Man of the Mountain (founder of the Assassins).
If you don't find that combination as terrifying as I do I'd like to quote my former chancellor Kreisky (I'm from Austria): "Learn history, yes."
If the Draigo episode isn't called ORDO DRAIGO: WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS I will be disappointed.
I'd argue it would be better if their gene seed was taken from malchador
I need a meme of Malchidor slam dunking titan into the warp
We will provide the hams quote by Kaldor Draigo.