Props for going through with this ad despite the video subject matter, I hope AG1 doesn't stop advertising with you just because of some silly grimdark story about human forcefeeding tubes! Love the format of this video by the way, the face to face style goes a long way toward getting across your thoughts on the book. I'd love to see more book reviews from you in this style, you had so much charisma for that part of it! (Edit: Looks like I'm gonna be binging Grimdark Story Hour this afternoon! Lol)
but it's not a combat unit, it would be fun if it spawning demons out of its worm while it is still screaming in pain each time a demon come out. And make it sticked to the ground. it would be even more fun if it grab some one into to its worm and the guy screaming in it.
I don't really have much interest in streamers and such, but I would SO be down to watch a stream party of Luetin and Wes just playing Darktide and geeking out about 40K.
Honestly, as fucked up as it is. It seems perfectly in place in Warhammer 40 K. I mean, the Drukari only kidnap you, grape and torture you for decades then turn you into a living coatrack. This just seems par for the course.
People always talked about how horrible it was I looked it up and.... Its really no worse than a Daemonhost Its bassically just, a Daemonhost, but it makes babies
Ehhh it feels out-of-place and unnecessary, like the alien seedbed level of Duke Nukem Forever. 40k is violent and horrible as a rule in its setting, but the daemonculaba feels like the kind of arguably mysoginistic "horror" that shows up for edgy shock value, trying to show off how icky and bad it is by how it specifically involves women. Like there are dozens of different ways I'm certain the concept and purpose of a daemonculaba could be executed that both better fit the setting AND is more horrifying.
I think Dragon Age's broodmothers pulling this years before I even found WH40k made me just neutral to the existence of daemonculaba. DA is nowhere as dark as WH40k, so it serves as a much harsher contrast - based on the grimdark 40th millenium I expected something much darker, there are so much body horror in WH40k already
GW took the idea for the daemonculaba from Frank Herbert's Dune, as the Bene Tleilax in the latter series has flesh machines called Axlotl Tanks that they fashion from women and use to gestate superhuman creatures.
I do not understand why people expect horror, including GRIMDARK where it's specifically a dystopian nightmare wrapped in a layer of hell for good measure, to be super clean and moral when the morals are "Don't be an Idiot" and "Dystopias Suck Ass when they have a connection to literal hell"
Like a bunch of stuff in WH40k, the daemonculaba is taken from the Dune books by Frank Herbert. In Chapter House Dune the Ixians have found a way to culture spice in the wombs of genetically modified bene geserite priestesses. It was just as creepy in the Dune books because they also used them for growing clones.
I believe the Daemonculabra were very much inspired by the Axlotl Tanks of the Bene Tleilaxu, from the Dune series, as they also are bizarre womb-like "flesh machines" made out of women, and used to gestate superhuman creatures... 🤔
Wes, I loved the bit of this video where you just sat and GUSHED about this story. Largely unscripted and off the cuff. It was SUPER fun just listening to you go on and on about this. Your enthusiasm seeps through the screen. Loved this!! You should definitely do more videos in this style(:
It's hardly the worst or darkest or cruelest thing that is implied to exist in the verse, I'm pretty sure that Slaanesh daemons and Dark Eldar would consider it pretty boring and uninspired compared to some of the stuff they do in a regular basis, hell, it's hardly the worst thing people IRL have written or drew art of, but it's just a specific type of explicit that people don't typically associate with 40K.
@@Tacoguy1000 basically anything related to sex, though especially sexual violence, is barely ever talked about in 40k. It might be implied but it's almost never talked about directly
Slaanesh will kill you alot quicker then the others. They dont mind killing you while having fun, they will just get another. Other groups make it a specific point to keep you alive as long as possible
@@Tacoguy1000I honestly assumed the same thing. But, the person who replied to you is right; It's implied, not necessarily given ever detail to. My messed up brain just added it in the gaps coz it kinda fit, but apparently that's on me 😅😂
It’s only really the “worst thing” because of the amount of detail we need more detail for shit like if you hear “nightlords skinned children” you will be like that’s bad but if you hear every disgusting detail it will be 100X worse than just saying they skinned a kid because he shoplifted
Ahahah, oh my god, this is why I LOVE this channel, yet struggle with nearly every other 40k channel. You are like the healthiest fan just... ever. Not just for 40k, just like... EVER. You never, ever ever try to justify/validate/defend liking something. You just LIKE it for what it is. No insecurity, no need to defend it as if somehow you're going to get picked for liking it. Just pure, joyous, honest love. Also, RIP Chaos Space Marine Steve.
@@Help_In_NeedOh idk maybe just tear off your skin alive just to make a nice piece of clothing for there armor? And if you're lucky enough they'll keep your body alive and use it for... something...
TBH before hearing about the Daemonculaba/Dead Sky, Black Sun story I thought the Iron Warriors weren't that bad when compared to the likes of the Nightlords and the Emperor's Children. The theme of factory farming; the uncaring cruelty rewarded by efficient mass production really does suit the Iron Warriors brutal and emotionless nature and this gives them a quite effective extra layer of horror different from any of the other Chaos legions.
Honsou was different from other Iron Warriors warlords because he was a "half-breed", with geneseed taken from the Iron Fists and not just Soulaka. You see this much more pronounced in the book he's introduced in, Storm of Iron about the Siege of Hydra Cordatus. He was broadly hated by his peers and even the men he commanded for that fact, which made him more willing to engage in supremely dark deeds to prove himself, one, and to also gain an edge on his rivals. Hence the Daemonculaba.
Other books that gives insight into the POV of survivors of Chaos occupation are the Dan Abnett Books 'Traitor General' and 'His last command'. They feature a hole ecosystem of campy concepts of corruptions, but the best feature of all these books (including Dead Sky, Black Sun) is that they explore the fringes of unreasonable faith in face of unfathomable horrors and frankly a critical deconstuction of the 'good angelic human' like 'Bladerunner' did.
Everything of what Wes just said about the Daemonculaba sounds like a casual Monday morning in a Homunculus laboratory. Like a Homunculus just casually calls up Vect with a cup of coffee and in flip-flops and just reports about how he made an artificial womb.
I guarantee to you that if your average Homunculus where to meet Honsu then learn about the Daemonculaba. They would probably laugh on how Honsu considers it an “achievement”
@@jaxxchang-weinberg4684they might do what they did with Fabius Bile "this one has potential. We will nurture that potential and attempt to exploit it" but unlike Bile, Honsu isn't smart enough to pull one over on them.
A bio-engineered artificial womb made from a woman wouldn't even be a main goal. That's like a side project when the Homunculus wants to take a break from making giant flesh spiders with laser eyes, or pipe organs made of people who scream out clouds of drugs. And what? Only a single subject per tank? How wasteful! A true artisan would create a room sized vessel out of many subjects that can crank out entire companies at a time.
I really enjoyed this format! Especially the personal touch stood out from all of your other videos I've watched. I think the whole concept of the Daemonculaba just highlights how hard it is for chaos space marines to get new members to their ranks. It's quite a desperate situation when you look at it objectively. It's the outcome of an experiment that does the job, but still is highly inefficient. They didn't have a better solution, so that's why they took that approach and industrialized it. It's kinda weird that this rarely gets mentioned, even though it is pretty much in your face as there are a lot of casualties in the grim dark future.
Its definitley dark but there are far more worse things out there. For me personally, servitors are equal in terms of being how horrifying they are. But outside 40k, Procedure Montauk is WAY worse.
@@derstein3368 yeah but the one people will most likely think of is the Raping one And all of them only have 1 mission, which is to shoo way SK from our reality. Which personally makes it way worse than making more Iron Warriors Edit: Their reality I mean, forgot were all basically 001
When I knew about the darmonculaba, I just thought: "well, hard times require whatever salvation you can think of". It didn't ruin my mood, it just felt fit for the Iron Warriors due to their style of warfare.
They were still conscious because at one point, Uriel walks past one and sees it’s eyes begging for death. They’re absolutely alive and conscious and NOT demons. I love dead sky black sun, it’s up there with storm of iron. Love those 2 books possibly the most of any other black library books. Check ‘em out if you guys get a chance, storm of iron proceeds dead sky black sun. Cheers
Kinda reminds me of the people-farms from the Beast-Rising-series. In short, Iron Warriors and Black Templars agree to a temporary truce in the face of overwhelming odds, which in an on itself is already crazy. They infiltrate a world held and actually civilized by the Beast Orks, used as a orky version of an agri world. And basically they farm humans. Take the worst versions of industrial farming and replace the chickens with human beings which have been so degraded and abused by this point that they literally are cattle. Their only response to the Marines infiltrating their farm is to open their mouths because by now they associate light with food. They don't beg for help or mercy, don't try to escape, they're literally reduced to the level of simple farm animals for the Orks to consume. If you get an Iron Warrior to administer a mercy killing, you know you're one sick puppy.
The last 5 minutes of this video felt more freeform and less scripted and I loved it, your funny personality and knowledge really shine through. Good job buddy
This man sacrifices his own sanity to learn and digest the heretically amazing universe of 40k. I feel like Wes will become legit Cultist of Chaos Undivided 😂
The Ultramarine Books around Ventris and his buddy Passanius where my first 40k Novels to read and will always have a special place in my heart. The characters and stories are just superb, threading a neat line between humanities brightest and darkest moments. I highly recommend you read the entire saga.
I wasn't planning on reading them at first. Was just gonna read this one and be done with it. But now I'm gonna go back and start from the beginning. Loved these characters. Passanius is the best boy. Like samwise gangie with a heavy flammer 😂
I'm not even done watching the video, and I gotta say: Wes: I love your content. Love, love, LOVE your content. Keep it up! Seeing a new video after a 10-hour work day was so rewarding. Please, please, PLEASE continue to make videos.
It's a great book. Easily one of the best 40K novels. I adore the humanity and the care Ventris shows to the Unfleshed... The skinless. Also how he and Pasanius are able to turn the renegades back to honour. Then the next book is amazing with how Ventris cares for the unfleshed after saving them. In Swords of Calth we see Ventris' fall from grace and so his change to the Primaris is a bad thing. There are a few sequels to the Dead Sky, Black Sun. On Ventris' side there's The Killing Ground that continues right after the DSBS, for Honsou there's The Iron Warrior. Then this story continues in The Chapter's Due and there's also a couple of guest stars from Horus Heresy.
I love it too! I also like how the Unfleshed ended up being such sympathetic characters, while at the same time, as Wes says, it's so amazingly over the top, and that's what makes it so entertaining. I was thoroughly engrossed the whole way through.
@@finalgirl640 To me Ventris' "hero speeches" are exactly what he THINKS he needs to do. First of all, he made captain while believing that another one was more deserving. He always leads from the front and until the Chapter's Due he did't even have a command squad (the new Primaris command squad is the defacto Swords of Calth). He took on too much and messed up fighting the Tyranids, as he believed that that as the captain running the defense was his duty. It was against the book. He's always been very vary of his position and rank since he was "grandfathered" straight into the program, no need to prove his worth. His ancestor died defending Macragge in the first Tyrannic War. So others didn't really see him as someone that had to earn his position. He's unorthodox but an Ultra through and through, humanity is important to him like it is for the Ultras or the Salamanders. That's why it's so tragic how he acts after all of this in Swords. Anyways, he has this need to believe in the good of people and second chances. This is why he saved the Unfleshed, even if he should have killed them and... Well, then there was the tragedy in Tarsis (I think it was) after the return from the Warp. DSBS is a great pivot in Ventris' life and where he grows into adulthood.
Should definitely save this Story Time for Halloween, but mix it up and add some of that Scary Movie Night Fun and Shlock to it, with funny voices and everything! A True Halloween Night Special!
I like the stream of consciousness explaining the book's plot that you had in the last part. It suited your humor style and made me gut laugh a couple of times 😂😂
Wes, you are one of the best when it comes to 40k. I am not even too into 40k, I watch it every now and again, but your content is top notch. And I loved when you sat and kinda talked to us at the end of your video. Would love to here more of your personal opinions on different 40k topics.
who doesn't love the Ultramarine books?! Uriel is one of my favorite characters, specifically because despite being a codex thumping smurf, he actually plays pretty fast and loose with actual codex "rules" and i love his character arc throughout the entire series!
I thought this video was gonna be messed up but i think it's actually one of my favorite videos you've put out. I love b tier sci-fi movies and low budget Warhammer, especially the way you described it, sounds awesome. Definitely gotta go read this now.
"Say what you will about the Iron Warriors being relentlessly evil. But at the end of the day, at least they care about recycling" Well put, Wes! 😂👏 Also, I don't know why. But the visceral part of 40k doesn't bother me that much. The things that bother me are the abhorrent cases of manipulation, betrayal, injustice and abuse of power. Like the simple case of an inquisitor who fucks up, but abuses his position to cover it up. Often in gruesome ways worse than what he initially tries to cover up! With chaos. Sure, it's bad. But also expected. With the Imperium, and specifically the Inquisition, the lines are more grey and blurry! And in true Grim Dark fashion. Morals and ethics are just cliff notes!
after reading „dead sky, black sun“ like almost 10 years ago, i couldnt help but to turn my entire 3k points of blood angels into Iron Warriors 😁 I love this book so mutch! Iron Within! Iron Without!
11 months late, but I have to say, this is one of my favorite W40k lore videos so far. I like how you just let the book take you on a campy ride without taking it too seriously; and when you think about it, isn't W40k fundamentally camp gone wild? This take is incredibly meta and I love it
I haven't read this but thanks to Adeptus Ridiculous I learned about this gem from this novel. “Uriel turned back to Obax Zakayo and raised his bolter, saying, ‘I will kill you now.’ ‘No!’ said Leonid grimly. ‘Let me do it. I owe this bastard a death.” Uriel saw the thirst for vengeance in Leonid’s eyes and nodded. (Skip forward a little bit) ‘Now, slave,’ hissed Obax Zakayo. ‘Ventris told you to kill me.’ Leonid raised his lasgun and shot Obax Zakayo in the gut. He smelled burned flesh and nodded to himself, satisfied that the Iron Warrior was in pain but still alive. Obex Zakayo raised his head and roared, ‘Shoot me again, I’m not dead yet!’ Leonid stepped close and spat in Obax Zakayo’s face. ‘No,’ he said calmly. ‘An oath was given!’ screamed the Iron Warrior. ‘Ventris swore he would see me dead!’ ‘Uriel gave his word, but I didn’t,’ snarled Leonid. ‘I want you to live in agony then die in pain when this place is brought down!’ Obax Zakayo wept in pain and cursed him, but Leonid ignored his pleading as he removed the grenade attached to the crushing machine that was nearest the Iron Warrior and slipped it into his uniform jacket’s breast pocket. ‘Don’t want you dying by accident, now do we?’ he said. Without another word, Leonid turned and walked away.
I only want people to know that Mikhail Leonid was a lieutenant-colonel of the guard, a real human being. spitting in the face of chaos and their sick perversion.
I personally didn't like adeptus ridiculous video on this. The way they just groaned and whined through it was so annoying. And bricky talking crap about violence towards women? And this is coming from a big adeptus ridiculous fan 😂
Honestly, I thought the process of removing the skin was worse than demonculaba. They literally hanged people on ropes, stabbed hooks into the skin, and pulled, while the people were still alive, so it would streach, and killed them only after taking sheet long patches of skin. That is something Dark Eldar could take notes from. Edit. I admit to showing Daemonculaba to scare non 40k people into looking Warhammer Fantasy instead.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 the point was to get them into Fantasy in order to save it before the end times. Sadly, it did not work. I even went so far as to hope Warhammer Fantasy was going to be 9th realm. Ever since fantasy died I refused to buy anything except books from GW, and since TTS died I stopped buying even those. Now I am Just doing it out of spite. That’s why Iron Warriors and World Eaters are my favorite chaos legions.
Don't forget the process of force feeding them disgusting nutrient gruel until they're so bloated they can't even stand, then starving them back down so they literally have to carry the excess skin in their hands
Not the best success rate, and it is mostly recycling while also using fresh captured gene seed, so not sustainable. Livable planets do exist in the eye of terror.
I heard about this thing some time ago and it was one of the worst things I could have read about that day 😂. It made me question my sympathy for Iron Warriors in 40k (I actually liked them in 30k). But the idea itself might ruin your plans for dinner.
Hey Wes! I just wanted to tell you that I've watched all your videos! And I started watching you on tiktok like a year ago! I've never heard of Warhammer until you! And now! I'm in love with the series! And am planning on getting the new space marine game coming out, and getting into the books! Thanks for igniting a love for 40k Wes! And... LONG LIVE THE EMPORER ❤
I wish I had learned about this from a wiki or lore video. I read the book when it first came out and I was staying with my grandma at the time. She actually asked me what I was reading and had to explain this to her because she wouldn't accept "You don't want to know" as an answer.. 😅
Another great video, Wes. I love how you considered the book as over the top with its horror a la Evil Dead. I also found it hilarious that it was only described in one chapter and nowhere else. Lots videos tend to focus on the visceral descriptions of the Daemonculaba that it kind of loses its charm.
You gotta carry on with the Dark Urge, the way it opens up in the story is amazing and if you like to play a hero character, resisting the dark urge is really rewarding
I've had a few people tell me you can resist the impulses you get, and that there's a way to cheese it so you don't end up killing the bard lady. I'm going to have to look up a guide on how to play it this way, but I do really want to do it. I just can't bring myself to kill the characters I've gotten attached to. They're all so good 😅🥲
I remember reading this book during my army training back in 2015. I was completely lost in this book for the duration of my training & what very little time I had. I loved this book!
Wes, you made me laugh my ass off on my drive to work. In a video about the Demonculaba of all things. Your Honzu-Skeletor voice is so damn funny. I loved this video! Thank you!
I just walked over to my bookshelf and pulled out my first edition copy of the book, that i bought when it came out. I enjoyed the book, you are right in that it was over the top with the Good Guy vs Bad Guy, "I am a Space Marine not only that but i am a Ultra Marine, and you are a Traitor" vibe, But in all fairness this was published almost 20 years ago, so the entire writing style was different back then as well. You go back far enough and there is a good chance that i have read and still own the novel you are basing one lore video off of such as this lol. Another great video
I read the book back in 2007 and I genuinely liked it😅. I thought the daemonculabas were the standard for creating chaos marines back then, because at that time I only knew 40k from Dawn Of War
Honestly, i really like the idea of the Daemonculaba, for a couple of reasons. Allow me to peface this, Its absolutely disgusting, horrifying, evil, and all that.. But it also shows the brutal efficiency and 'ends justify the means' of the Iron Warriors. It also helps answer a couple of questions im regards to the creation of further recruits.
Please do more of these, just you in front of a camera and doing a book report. OMG that would he an amazing series. You are such a great story teller, your enthusiasm is so infectious.
We definitely need an Iron Warrior video, or maybe just Honsou and Ventris saga video. The different ways they lead until meeting again in Ultramar. It's a great saga, but one that doesn't get enough recognition by the Warhammer community I feel. Instead they cherry pick the Daemonculaba and that's it
I once went down the rabbit hole of how various chaos marines got more members, or replacements. I already knew about this. I'm not sure if this is the absolute worst thing in 40k, but it sure fits, and it sure is up there. The book was great tbh.
I really like the new style for the videos and for your UA-cam personality seems like major kill had positive effect on you and your channel. I love watching you guys so hope you guys continue to grow!
Honest to god I truly think that the reaction _to the reaction_ of demonculaba is what’s blown out of proportion. I refuse to believe that there are 40k enjoyers that are actually horrified/offended by this story/concept that aren’t johnny-come-lately pearl-clutching troublemakers for the franchise.
Love the video, dark urge isn't the defacto play if you want to be evil character and it only forces you to do one thing (which you can still avoid and get a unique npc interaction that can't happen any other way) you are always offered a choice to indulge or resist and you should definitely give the playthrough a chance. There are impacts and revelations that smooth out alot with that playthrough.
i do remember reading that book. i think when i picked it up it was from the Ultra Marine Omnibus. that story was really interesting. it was definitly an eye opener for how rough and grim dark the whole series is. at the time i knew it was dark but that was a crazy chapter to read. i toughly enjoyed the book. if you did another dive into a different space marine chapter i would suggest the soul drinkers. the omnibus for that chapter depicts the fall of a chapter. another really great read
I remember reading Dead Sky Black Sun when it was first released. I was 15 and knee deep in 40k at the time. The key notes I remember from the book are this awful thing, Uriel's frat bro having a bionic arm plus an overused flamer, and the gang of angry flesh Goonies actually being pretty cool.
For real Wes, the sorta shorter stuff is great for when I'm smoking a bowl between gaming sessions or whatnot. I work 50 ish hours week, and the three days off I get I game, smoke and listen to/watch lore videos about my various interests. Your stuff is fantastic, but sometimes it's nice to get a Weshammer video I can just watch that's less than an hour ya know? Anyway, great stuff as always.
This video is the reason I started listening to the audiobook. The guy voicing the villain is fantastic. Uriel and his partner are the rocky and bullwinkle of 40K
Literally was eating my breakfast before classes started when I was watching only to have it want to come back up after listening to the description of what they were
Dude this was hysterically Entertaining along with a little cringe from the dark parts but I really enjoyed every minute of this video! Thanks for Entertaining us With Top-notch content. Forever 40k!!!
I feel like I’m going from 2 months ago knowing nothing about Warhammer to feeling like a source of knowledge about Warhammer now to my circle because of learning from lore spreaders like Weshammer. My dad has read hundreds and hundreds of fiction and non fiction and it’s been fun to compare book stories and to my knowledge there’s a lot of similarities between Warhammer and the Dune books. I absolutely love listening to your content and it’s become something I’m excited to put on whenever I go for a drive. Thank you for all the time and work you put into your content! It’s really made me a bigger fan of Warhammer
Excellent take on this topic. Side note I'm playing dark urge buuuuuut I'm doing the resist/redemption arc and you can be a good guy if you don't wanna slaughter you friends. Karlach is the quintessential golden retriever and I managed to not kill her. It's definitely worth the playthrough.
The tone in the background after 10:18 was causing me a mild heart attack before I realised where it came from. Thank you for another entertaining video from a 40k novice.
"if you just clicked on this video to learn something new about your favorite grim dark universe well then i a myself and about to ruin your day". hahahaha love watching/ listening to your videos/ audio readings they are funny as all heck
This is my favorite Warhammer novel that honestly got me into the universe as a whole. I’m shocked people thought that THIS was the darkest, grossest thing in 40k when the dark elves exist.
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Wes seems like he watched the Human Centipede sequences and laughed with that "My friends and I make drinking games out of horror movies" bit. A braver soul than I, I cant even read the plot synopsis without throwing up in my mouth.
Leutin09's vid is a great listen for this infamous topic. At the end where they fleshless ones fight back because something within the geneseed sparks a reverence for the Emperor really turns the grim dark tone on it's head.
Wes I see your point and love the bits haha. I’m casual lore listener so I’m not taking in any lore and interpreting it for myself and tend to enjoy my 40K content creators. They make the content enjoyable :) The Daemonculaba is still pretty horrifying but as a campy horror creation it doesn’t upset me in the same vein as Human Centipede or Hereditary.
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At least its not Temu
It's Dae(Day)mon, not Demon....
Props for going through with this ad despite the video subject matter, I hope AG1 doesn't stop advertising with you just because of some silly grimdark story about human forcefeeding tubes!
Love the format of this video by the way, the face to face style goes a long way toward getting across your thoughts on the book. I'd love to see more book reviews from you in this style, you had so much charisma for that part of it! (Edit: Looks like I'm gonna be binging Grimdark Story Hour this afternoon! Lol)
Anything with the Drukari involved its far worst.
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I would argue if someone is ok with Nightlords flaying children, the Daemonculabra shouldn’t be that bad.
Listen to Abomination about the Mechanicus’ servitor creation process. That’s real body horror.
@@MiniPaintAdventurerOH my god yeah 😱
@@MiniPaintAdventurer nah, thats nothing. Thats like baby horror for Warhammer!
Oh cmon man it was like 3 kids 😂
@@outkast937😂😂😂 that actually made me laugh way more than I probably should have.
Played Darktide with Luetin, told him they needed the Daemon Daemonculaba as a boss. His grunts and mumbles were pretty damn funny.
There's no way you didn't do that on purpose. Great job. x)
but it's not a combat unit, it would be fun if it spawning demons out of its worm while it is still screaming in pain each time a demon come out. And make it sticked to the ground.
it would be even more fun if it grab some one into to its worm and the guy screaming in it.
Bruh, I think you traumatized Luetin 💀
I don't really have much interest in streamers and such, but I would SO be down to watch a stream party of Luetin and Wes just playing Darktide and geeking out about 40K.
Honestly, as fucked up as it is. It seems perfectly in place in Warhammer 40 K. I mean, the Drukari only kidnap you, grape and torture you for decades then turn you into a living coatrack.
This just seems par for the course.
You would probably thank them for turning you into a coatrack after what came before that.
People always talked about how horrible it was
I looked it up and....
Its really no worse than a Daemonhost
Its bassically just, a Daemonhost, but it makes babies
If someone were to grape me, that doesn’t sound so bad.
@@JeffReamsur new to drukari aren’t ya
Ehhh it feels out-of-place and unnecessary, like the alien seedbed level of Duke Nukem Forever. 40k is violent and horrible as a rule in its setting, but the daemonculaba feels like the kind of arguably mysoginistic "horror" that shows up for edgy shock value, trying to show off how icky and bad it is by how it specifically involves women. Like there are dozens of different ways I'm certain the concept and purpose of a daemonculaba could be executed that both better fit the setting AND is more horrifying.
I think Dragon Age's broodmothers pulling this years before I even found WH40k made me just neutral to the existence of daemonculaba. DA is nowhere as dark as WH40k, so it serves as a much harsher contrast - based on the grimdark 40th millenium I expected something much darker, there are so much body horror in WH40k already
GW took the idea for the daemonculaba from Frank Herbert's Dune, as the Bene Tleilax in the latter series has flesh machines called Axlotl Tanks that they fashion from women and use to gestate superhuman creatures.
I do not understand why people expect horror, including GRIMDARK where it's specifically a dystopian nightmare wrapped in a layer of hell for good measure, to be super clean and moral when the morals are "Don't be an Idiot" and "Dystopias Suck Ass when they have a connection to literal hell"
Can you imagine just how much more horrific the Daemonculaba could have been if it was in the hands of Fabius Bile?
Oh shit....never thought about that...😱 well fuck...
Fabius doesn't believe in torture anymore, it would be be way less gruesome/more humane.
Fabius Bile would make it more effective ngl. Tho now that you say that I would love to see a Fabias Bile and Honsu crossover
@@jaxxchang-weinberg4684 Heh, add in the Necron psycho scientists
Dude I literally thought he was the one who created this, but yeah god damn the mere thought of it feels heretical
Like a bunch of stuff in WH40k, the daemonculaba is taken from the Dune books by Frank Herbert. In Chapter House Dune the Ixians have found a way to culture spice in the wombs of genetically modified bene geserite priestesses. It was just as creepy in the Dune books because they also used them for growing clones.
Is it not the Tleilaxu rather than the Ixians? The Axlolt tanks?
@jhtrq1465 you are correct. I got the names mixed up. Thanks
@@jhtrq1465I regret looking up the Axolt tanks
I'm surprised no one had made the connections between it and the man made behelit in berserk.
I would say this is more inspired by the man made behelit in berserk than it is dune (though that itself was probably partially inspired by dune)
I believe the Daemonculabra were very much inspired by the Axlotl Tanks of the Bene Tleilaxu, from the Dune series, as they also are bizarre womb-like "flesh machines" made out of women, and used to gestate superhuman creatures... 🤔
That's all I can think of when I hear this. 40k is notorious/loved for its "borrowing" from existing media, this is just another one.
But the Never made a Miles Teg
40k? Stealing something from dune? Now that's just crazy talk.
@@cherrypopscile3385 Are you saying that they Blood Ravened the idea?
@@raymondhamill6702One might say they Trazyn'ed it. 😎
Wes, I loved the bit of this video where you just sat and GUSHED about this story. Largely unscripted and off the cuff. It was SUPER fun just listening to you go on and on about this. Your enthusiasm seeps through the screen. Loved this!! You should definitely do more videos in this style(:
It's hardly the worst or darkest or cruelest thing that is implied to exist in the verse, I'm pretty sure that Slaanesh daemons and Dark Eldar would consider it pretty boring and uninspired compared to some of the stuff they do in a regular basis, hell, it's hardly the worst thing people IRL have written or drew art of, but it's just a specific type of explicit that people don't typically associate with 40K.
They don't? I thought everyone did that in 40k.
@@Tacoguy1000 basically anything related to sex, though especially sexual violence, is barely ever talked about in 40k. It might be implied but it's almost never talked about directly
Slaanesh will kill you alot quicker then the others. They dont mind killing you while having fun, they will just get another. Other groups make it a specific point to keep you alive as long as possible
@@Tacoguy1000I honestly assumed the same thing. But, the person who replied to you is right; It's implied, not necessarily given ever detail to.
My messed up brain just added it in the gaps coz it kinda fit, but apparently that's on me 😅😂
It’s only really the “worst thing” because of the amount of detail we need more detail for shit like if you hear “nightlords skinned children” you will be like that’s bad but if you hear every disgusting detail it will be 100X worse than just saying they skinned a kid because he shoplifted
Ahahah, oh my god, this is why I LOVE this channel, yet struggle with nearly every other 40k channel. You are like the healthiest fan just... ever. Not just for 40k, just like... EVER.
You never, ever ever try to justify/validate/defend liking something. You just LIKE it for what it is. No insecurity, no need to defend it as if somehow you're going to get picked for liking it.
Just pure, joyous, honest love.
Also, RIP Chaos Space Marine Steve.
Getting captured by the dark eldar and emperos children is still worse imo
What would Emperor's Children do?
@@Help_In_Needdont ask
@@Help_In_NeedOh idk maybe just tear off your skin alive just to make a nice piece of clothing for there armor? And if you're lucky enough they'll keep your body alive and use it for... something...
@@Help_In_Need They will brutally grape you to death
@Crusher888 Sooo they will actually use grape for its origianal purpose?
TBH before hearing about the Daemonculaba/Dead Sky, Black Sun story I thought the Iron Warriors weren't that bad when compared to the likes of the Nightlords and the Emperor's Children. The theme of factory farming; the uncaring cruelty rewarded by efficient mass production really does suit the Iron Warriors brutal and emotionless nature and this gives them a quite effective extra layer of horror different from any of the other Chaos legions.
Honsou was different from other Iron Warriors warlords because he was a "half-breed", with geneseed taken from the Iron Fists and not just Soulaka. You see this much more pronounced in the book he's introduced in, Storm of Iron about the Siege of Hydra Cordatus. He was broadly hated by his peers and even the men he commanded for that fact, which made him more willing to engage in supremely dark deeds to prove himself, one, and to also gain an edge on his rivals. Hence the Daemonculaba.
All of Uriel Ventris’ books are 80’s action movie style and I love it. They would make fantastic video games.
Agree. I went into them hating the smurfs but they changed that all for me.
What about the new one?
Other books that gives insight into the POV of survivors of Chaos occupation are the Dan Abnett Books 'Traitor General' and 'His last command'. They feature a hole ecosystem of campy concepts of corruptions, but the best feature of all these books (including Dead Sky, Black Sun) is that they explore the fringes of unreasonable faith in face of unfathomable horrors and frankly a critical deconstuction of the 'good angelic human' like 'Bladerunner' did.
Everything of what Wes just said about the Daemonculaba sounds like a casual Monday morning in a Homunculus laboratory. Like a Homunculus just casually calls up Vect with a cup of coffee and in flip-flops and just reports about how he made an artificial womb.
I guarantee to you that if your average Homunculus where to meet Honsu then learn about the Daemonculaba. They would probably laugh on how Honsu considers it an “achievement”
Homunculus after finding out about the Daemonculaba :
" These Mon-keigh are really cute."
@@jaxxchang-weinberg4684they might do what they did with Fabius Bile "this one has potential. We will nurture that potential and attempt to exploit it" but unlike Bile, Honsu isn't smart enough to pull one over on them.
A bio-engineered artificial womb made from a woman wouldn't even be a main goal. That's like a side project when the Homunculus wants to take a break from making giant flesh spiders with laser eyes, or pipe organs made of people who scream out clouds of drugs.
And what? Only a single subject per tank? How wasteful! A true artisan would create a room sized vessel out of many subjects that can crank out entire companies at a time.
I really enjoyed this format! Especially the personal touch stood out from all of your other videos I've watched.
I think the whole concept of the Daemonculaba just highlights how hard it is for chaos space marines to get new members to their ranks. It's quite a desperate situation when you look at it objectively. It's the outcome of an experiment that does the job, but still is highly inefficient. They didn't have a better solution, so that's why they took that approach and industrialized it.
It's kinda weird that this rarely gets mentioned, even though it is pretty much in your face as there are a lot of casualties in the grim dark future.
Its definitley dark but there are far more worse things out there.
For me personally, servitors are equal in terms of being how horrifying they are. But outside 40k, Procedure Montauk is WAY worse.
It depends. Procedure 110 Montauk could literaly be anything based of different canons
@@derstein3368 yeah but the one people will most likely think of is the Raping one
And all of them only have 1 mission, which is to shoo way SK from our reality. Which personally makes it way worse than making more Iron Warriors
Edit: Their reality I mean, forgot were all basically 001
I mean... its only a little bad😂
@@outkast937 which one Montauk or Daemonculaba?
@@feroexe7965por que no los dos?
The Daemonculaba honestly isn't even that unusual. It's just a chaotic Axolotl tank.
Agreed, you could probably find worse in the average Drukhari basement
When I knew about the darmonculaba, I just thought: "well, hard times require whatever salvation you can think of". It didn't ruin my mood, it just felt fit for the Iron Warriors due to their style of warfare.
They were still conscious because at one point, Uriel walks past one and sees it’s eyes begging for death. They’re absolutely alive and conscious and NOT demons.
I love dead sky black sun, it’s up there with storm of iron. Love those 2 books possibly the most of any other black library books. Check ‘em out if you guys get a chance, storm of iron proceeds dead sky black sun. Cheers
Kinda reminds me of the people-farms from the Beast-Rising-series. In short, Iron Warriors and Black Templars agree to a temporary truce in the face of overwhelming odds, which in an on itself is already crazy. They infiltrate a world held and actually civilized by the Beast Orks, used as a orky version of an agri world. And basically they farm humans. Take the worst versions of industrial farming and replace the chickens with human beings which have been so degraded and abused by this point that they literally are cattle. Their only response to the Marines infiltrating their farm is to open their mouths because by now they associate light with food. They don't beg for help or mercy, don't try to escape, they're literally reduced to the level of simple farm animals for the Orks to consume.
If you get an Iron Warrior to administer a mercy killing, you know you're one sick puppy.
The last 5 minutes of this video felt more freeform and less scripted and I loved it, your funny personality and knowledge really shine through. Good job buddy
This man sacrifices his own sanity to learn and digest the heretically amazing universe of 40k. I feel like Wes will become legit Cultist of Chaos Undivided 😂
Plot twist:he is already, same as Luetin is a Heretical Tzeench Scholar or Priest. XD.
When you hear the legendary phrase "I shit you not" in a 40k video, you know your about to hear something WILD
Also yeah that dark urge thing ain't no joke. I looked away when recruiting gale and when I looked up I was chopping off his hands.
The Ultramarine Books around Ventris and his buddy Passanius where my first 40k Novels to read and will always have a special place in my heart. The characters and stories are just superb, threading a neat line between humanities brightest and darkest moments. I highly recommend you read the entire saga.
I wasn't planning on reading them at first. Was just gonna read this one and be done with it. But now I'm gonna go back and start from the beginning. Loved these characters. Passanius is the best boy. Like samwise gangie with a heavy flammer 😂
@@weshammer There is a reason Uriel got his own Mini. He just slaps
I'm not even done watching the video, and I gotta say: Wes: I love your content. Love, love, LOVE your content. Keep it up! Seeing a new video after a 10-hour work day was so rewarding. Please, please, PLEASE continue to make videos.
It's a great book. Easily one of the best 40K novels. I adore the humanity and the care Ventris shows to the Unfleshed... The skinless. Also how he and Pasanius are able to turn the renegades back to honour. Then the next book is amazing with how Ventris cares for the unfleshed after saving them. In Swords of Calth we see Ventris' fall from grace and so his change to the Primaris is a bad thing.
There are a few sequels to the Dead Sky, Black Sun. On Ventris' side there's The Killing Ground that continues right after the DSBS, for Honsou there's The Iron Warrior. Then this story continues in The Chapter's Due and there's also a couple of guest stars from Horus Heresy.
I love it too! I also like how the Unfleshed ended up being such sympathetic characters, while at the same time, as Wes says, it's so amazingly over the top, and that's what makes it so entertaining. I was thoroughly engrossed the whole way through.
@@finalgirl640 To me Ventris' "hero speeches" are exactly what he THINKS he needs to do.
First of all, he made captain while believing that another one was more deserving. He always leads from the front and until the Chapter's Due he did't even have a command squad (the new Primaris command squad is the defacto Swords of Calth). He took on too much and messed up fighting the Tyranids, as he believed that that as the captain running the defense was his duty. It was against the book.
He's always been very vary of his position and rank since he was "grandfathered" straight into the program, no need to prove his worth. His ancestor died defending Macragge in the first Tyrannic War. So others didn't really see him as someone that had to earn his position.
He's unorthodox but an Ultra through and through, humanity is important to him like it is for the Ultras or the Salamanders. That's why it's so tragic how he acts after all of this in Swords.
Anyways, he has this need to believe in the good of people and second chances. This is why he saved the Unfleshed, even if he should have killed them and... Well, then there was the tragedy in Tarsis (I think it was) after the return from the Warp.
DSBS is a great pivot in Ventris' life and where he grows into adulthood.
Should definitely save this Story Time for Halloween, but mix it up and add some of that Scary Movie Night Fun and Shlock to it, with funny voices and everything! A True Halloween Night Special!
You should do more intimate book breakdowns like this makes for cool content and not many loretubers do this.
I like the stream of consciousness explaining the book's plot that you had in the last part. It suited your humor style and made me gut laugh a couple of times 😂😂
Wes, you are one of the best when it comes to 40k. I am not even too into 40k, I watch it every now and again, but your content is top notch. And I loved when you sat and kinda talked to us at the end of your video. Would love to here more of your personal opinions on different 40k topics.
Wes’s enthusiasm for explaining scenes and playing up the campiness killed me.
who doesn't love the Ultramarine books?! Uriel is one of my favorite characters, specifically because despite being a codex thumping smurf, he actually plays pretty fast and loose with actual codex "rules" and i love his character arc throughout the entire series!
Plus, Pasanius' bionic arm makes it look like his flamer is attached to his arm on one artwork. *_Awesome._* B)
I thought this video was gonna be messed up but i think it's actually one of my favorite videos you've put out. I love b tier sci-fi movies and low budget Warhammer, especially the way you described it, sounds awesome. Definitely gotta go read this now.
"Say what you will about the Iron Warriors being relentlessly evil. But at the end of the day, at least they care about recycling" Well put, Wes! 😂👏
Also, I don't know why. But the visceral part of 40k doesn't bother me that much. The things that bother me are the abhorrent cases of manipulation, betrayal, injustice and abuse of power. Like the simple case of an inquisitor who fucks up, but abuses his position to cover it up. Often in gruesome ways worse than what he initially tries to cover up! With chaos. Sure, it's bad. But also expected. With the Imperium, and specifically the Inquisition, the lines are more grey and blurry! And in true Grim Dark fashion. Morals and ethics are just cliff notes!
I thought GW removed that Lore because many people got angry or whatever.
The video actually begins at 4:13
after reading „dead sky, black sun“ like almost 10 years ago, i couldnt help but to turn my entire 3k points of blood angels into Iron Warriors 😁 I love this book so mutch! Iron Within! Iron Without!
Leutin's reading/explaining video of the deamonculaba was my first large helping of 40k lore. I've been hooked ever since.
Nothing is better than listening to weshammer while doing household chores
11 months late, but I have to say, this is one of my favorite W40k lore videos so far. I like how you just let the book take you on a campy ride without taking it too seriously; and when you think about it, isn't W40k fundamentally camp gone wild? This take is incredibly meta and I love it
I haven't read this but thanks to Adeptus Ridiculous I learned about this gem from this novel.
“Uriel turned back to Obax Zakayo and raised his bolter, saying, ‘I will kill you now.’ ‘No!’ said Leonid grimly. ‘Let me do it. I owe this bastard a death.” Uriel saw the thirst for vengeance in Leonid’s eyes and nodded.
(Skip forward a little bit)
‘Now, slave,’ hissed Obax Zakayo. ‘Ventris told you to kill me.’ Leonid raised his lasgun and shot Obax Zakayo in the gut. He smelled burned flesh and nodded to himself, satisfied that the Iron Warrior was in pain but still alive. Obex Zakayo raised his head and roared, ‘Shoot me again, I’m not dead yet!’
Leonid stepped close and spat in Obax Zakayo’s face. ‘No,’ he said calmly. ‘An oath was given!’ screamed the Iron Warrior. ‘Ventris swore he would see me dead!’ ‘Uriel gave his word, but I didn’t,’ snarled Leonid. ‘I want you to live in agony then die in pain when this place is brought down!’
Obax Zakayo wept in pain and cursed him, but Leonid ignored his pleading as he removed the grenade attached to the crushing machine that was nearest the Iron Warrior and slipped it into his uniform jacket’s breast pocket. ‘Don’t want you dying by accident, now do we?’ he said. Without another word, Leonid turned and walked away.
I only want people to know that Mikhail Leonid was a lieutenant-colonel of the guard, a real human being. spitting in the face of chaos and their sick perversion.
Epic
Stone cold stuff, I can see why Uriel wanted this man on his team.
I personally didn't like adeptus ridiculous video on this. The way they just groaned and whined through it was so annoying. And bricky talking crap about violence towards women? And this is coming from a big adeptus ridiculous fan 😂
The Ultramarine Omnibus and its sequel were actually the first 40k novels I read. Still some of my favorite stories.
Honestly, I thought the process of removing the skin was worse than demonculaba. They literally hanged people on ropes, stabbed hooks into the skin, and pulled, while the people were still alive, so it would streach, and killed them only after taking sheet long patches of skin. That is something Dark Eldar could take notes from.
Edit. I admit to showing Daemonculaba to scare non 40k people into looking Warhammer Fantasy instead.
Why, though? What's the point in trying to scare people out of 40 K?
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 the point was to get them into Fantasy in order to save it before the end times. Sadly, it did not work. I even went so far as to hope Warhammer Fantasy was going to be 9th realm.
Ever since fantasy died I refused to buy anything except books from GW, and since TTS died I stopped buying even those. Now I am Just doing it out of spite. That’s why Iron Warriors and World Eaters are my favorite chaos legions.
That’s just scummy
It reminds me of ATHF when the trees tear pieces of Carls skin off to use as notepaper.
Don't forget the process of force feeding them disgusting nutrient gruel until they're so bloated they can't even stand, then starving them back down so they literally have to carry the excess skin in their hands
I have always wondered how chaos space marines replenish their numbers. Because of this, i have always found this story interesting.
Some might be lucky cultists? It might depend on the chapter.
Not the best success rate, and it is mostly recycling while also using fresh captured gene seed, so not sustainable.
Livable planets do exist in the eye of terror.
I heard about this thing some time ago and it was one of the worst things I could have read about that day 😂. It made me question my sympathy for Iron Warriors in 40k (I actually liked them in 30k). But the idea itself might ruin your plans for dinner.
Hey Wes! I just wanted to tell you that I've watched all your videos! And I started watching you on tiktok like a year ago! I've never heard of Warhammer until you! And now! I'm in love with the series! And am planning on getting the new space marine game coming out, and getting into the books! Thanks for igniting a love for 40k Wes! And... LONG LIVE THE EMPORER ❤
Keep up the great content Wes. Could you do some more deep dives by any chance?
I wish I had learned about this from a wiki or lore video. I read the book when it first came out and I was staying with my grandma at the time. She actually asked me what I was reading and had to explain this to her because she wouldn't accept "You don't want to know" as an answer.. 😅
yah, i mean you are technically correct ( the best kind of correct!) the daemonculabe isnt the worst cuz there is still slaaneshs place of "pleasure"
Another great video, Wes. I love how you considered the book as over the top with its horror a la Evil Dead. I also found it hilarious that it was only described in one chapter and nowhere else. Lots videos tend to focus on the visceral descriptions of the Daemonculaba that it kind of loses its charm.
You gotta carry on with the Dark Urge, the way it opens up in the story is amazing and if you like to play a hero character, resisting the dark urge is really rewarding
I've had a few people tell me you can resist the impulses you get, and that there's a way to cheese it so you don't end up killing the bard lady. I'm going to have to look up a guide on how to play it this way, but I do really want to do it. I just can't bring myself to kill the characters I've gotten attached to. They're all so good 😅🥲
@@weshammer you can resist the urge! And if you kill the bard, it unlocks a convo with Withers and it adds to the story of hating the urge
I remember reading this book during my army training back in 2015. I was completely lost in this book for the duration of my training & what very little time I had. I loved this book!
Wes, you made me laugh my ass off on my drive to work. In a video about the Demonculaba of all things. Your Honzu-Skeletor voice is so damn funny. I loved this video! Thank you!
I just walked over to my bookshelf and pulled out my first edition copy of the book, that i bought when it came out. I enjoyed the book, you are right in that it was over the top with the Good Guy vs Bad Guy, "I am a Space Marine not only that but i am a Ultra Marine, and you are a Traitor" vibe, But in all fairness this was published almost 20 years ago, so the entire writing style was different back then as well. You go back far enough and there is a good chance that i have read and still own the novel you are basing one lore video off of such as this lol. Another great video
Babe wake up, the new Weshammer video just got uploaded
"NVM babe go back to sleep I'm sorry 😭"
I see no video
I read the book back in 2007 and I genuinely liked it😅. I thought the daemonculabas were the standard for creating chaos marines back then, because at that time I only knew 40k from Dawn Of War
Honestly, i really like the idea of the Daemonculaba, for a couple of reasons. Allow me to peface this, Its absolutely disgusting, horrifying, evil, and all that.. But it also shows the brutal efficiency and 'ends justify the means' of the Iron Warriors. It also helps answer a couple of questions im regards to the creation of further recruits.
Please do more of these, just you in front of a camera and doing a book report. OMG that would he an amazing series. You are such a great story teller, your enthusiasm is so infectious.
We definitely need an Iron Warrior video, or maybe just Honsou and Ventris saga video. The different ways they lead until meeting again in Ultramar. It's a great saga, but one that doesn't get enough recognition by the Warhammer community I feel. Instead they cherry pick the Daemonculaba and that's it
That Demon Train is literally Thomas the Tank Engine turned to Chaos. LOL
I once went down the rabbit hole of how various chaos marines got more members, or replacements.
I already knew about this.
I'm not sure if this is the absolute worst thing in 40k, but it sure fits, and it sure is up there.
The book was great tbh.
The break really helped man. I'm enjoying the renewed enthusiasm. Sometimes you just gotta take a break. Awesome video.
The Daemonculaba is an axlotl tank from Dune, just rebranded a bit. Once again, Frank Herbert did it first.
I really like the new style for the videos and for your UA-cam personality seems like major kill had positive effect on you and your channel. I love watching you guys so hope you guys continue to grow!
Honest to god I truly think that the reaction _to the reaction_ of demonculaba is what’s blown out of proportion. I refuse to believe that there are 40k enjoyers that are actually horrified/offended by this story/concept that aren’t johnny-come-lately pearl-clutching troublemakers for the franchise.
It is always nice to hear about Dark Urge from BG3, pretty nice character giving nice rewards for trying to be good
Love the video, dark urge isn't the defacto play if you want to be evil character and it only forces you to do one thing (which you can still avoid and get a unique npc interaction that can't happen any other way) you are always offered a choice to indulge or resist and you should definitely give the playthrough a chance. There are impacts and revelations that smooth out alot with that playthrough.
Chaos Space Marine Steve getting crushed, or Frank on the way to the skinming pits, those side notes make Wes Videos so beautiful
i do remember reading that book. i think when i picked it up it was from the Ultra Marine Omnibus. that story was really interesting. it was definitly an eye opener for how rough and grim dark the whole series is. at the time i knew it was dark but that was a crazy chapter to read. i toughly enjoyed the book.
if you did another dive into a different space marine chapter i would suggest the soul drinkers. the omnibus for that chapter depicts the fall of a chapter. another really great read
I remember reading Dead Sky Black Sun when it was first released. I was 15 and knee deep in 40k at the time.
The key notes I remember from the book are this awful thing, Uriel's frat bro having a bionic arm plus an overused flamer, and the gang of angry flesh Goonies actually being pretty cool.
Could you guys imagine a warhammer game like starfield I think I would set up a ton of these guys and grow my own demon army
I remember hearing a guy read the chapters of the Daemonculaba and it was pretty nutty hearing the level of description read seriously.
Video starts at 4:12 🙄
For real Wes, the sorta shorter stuff is great for when I'm smoking a bowl between gaming sessions or whatnot. I work 50 ish hours week, and the three days off I get I game, smoke and listen to/watch lore videos about my various interests. Your stuff is fantastic, but sometimes it's nice to get a Weshammer video I can just watch that's less than an hour ya know? Anyway, great stuff as always.
I'm a bit disappointed. Not too heinous in the end.
Love where you went with the meta discussion.
Ah yes the ultimate unimaginable horror
This video is the reason I started listening to the audiobook. The guy voicing the villain is fantastic. Uriel and his partner are the rocky and bullwinkle of 40K
Literally was eating my breakfast before classes started when I was watching only to have it want to come back up after listening to the description of what they were
Glad you referenced Slither because every time I see the Daemonculaba mentioned I think of That Scene
Very authentic, fun and enjoyable video, great one dude 👍.
"we're just gonna dive right into this thing"
Very poor choice of words, that.
Dude this was hysterically Entertaining along with a little cringe from the dark parts but I really enjoyed every minute of this video!
Thanks for Entertaining us With Top-notch content. Forever 40k!!!
I feel like I’m going from 2 months ago knowing nothing about Warhammer to feeling like a source of knowledge about Warhammer now to my circle because of learning from lore spreaders like Weshammer. My dad has read hundreds and hundreds of fiction and non fiction and it’s been fun to compare book stories and to my knowledge there’s a lot of similarities between Warhammer and the Dune books. I absolutely love listening to your content and it’s become something I’m excited to put on whenever I go for a drive. Thank you for all the time and work you put into your content! It’s really made me a bigger fan of Warhammer
it's an interesting take you have at the end, almost framing Daemonculaba as, well a SCP in 40k
Excellent take on this topic. Side note I'm playing dark urge buuuuuut I'm doing the resist/redemption arc and you can be a good guy if you don't wanna slaughter you friends. Karlach is the quintessential golden retriever and I managed to not kill her. It's definitely worth the playthrough.
@weshammer this isn't you correct?
The tone in the background after 10:18 was causing me a mild heart attack before I realised where it came from. Thank you for another entertaining video from a 40k novice.
Honestly Luetin's reading of Dead Sky Black was really enjoyable to listen to.
"if you just clicked on this video to learn something new about your favorite grim dark universe well then i a myself and about to ruin your day". hahahaha love watching/ listening to your videos/ audio readings they are funny as all heck
16:01 Best 40k voice acting since Baldermort 🙌🏻
As someone with a massive iron warriors army, this book was awesome
This is my favorite Warhammer novel that honestly got me into the universe as a whole. I’m shocked people thought that THIS was the darkest, grossest thing in 40k when the dark elves exist.
@16:10 - This NEEDS to be sampled and put into a song! 😆
Enjoyed the format of this my guy! Casual part 2 was fun
Here is Another subscriber and this One have been with Warhammer fantasy and especially 40k All his life, from second edition. I like your research ability, dyskret humor, and crazy Hair.
It's Good that your material is not over opinionated.
I'm Michael, I'm from Poland.
I March for Macragge.
And i shall know no Fear.
Interesting. This sounds just like the broodmothers from Dragon Age Origins, wich is quite a dark tale in that world too.
Wes seems like he watched the Human Centipede sequences and laughed with that "My friends and I make drinking games out of horror movies" bit. A braver soul than I, I cant even read the plot synopsis without throwing up in my mouth.
Leutin09's vid is a great listen for this infamous topic. At the end where they fleshless ones fight back because something within the geneseed sparks a reverence for the Emperor really turns the grim dark tone on it's head.
Wes I see your point and love the bits haha. I’m casual lore listener so I’m not taking in any lore and interpreting it for myself and tend to enjoy my 40K content creators. They make the content enjoyable :)
The Daemonculaba is still pretty horrifying but as a campy horror creation it doesn’t upset me in the same vein as Human Centipede or Hereditary.
I think the book implies they are still conscious. Uriel makes eye contact and thinks it acknowledges something he says to it