TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Introduction 0:19 - What is consciousness? 2:39 - Attention vs awareness 5:50 - Subjectivity & phenomenal consciousness 9:20 - Evolution of attention, awareness & consciousness 10:31 - Neurons, crabs, frogs, & the optic tectum 18:01 - Octopuses & alien minds 21:55 - Humans, the cerebral cortex & focused attention 21:14 - Attention schema theory (AST) 28:10 - Attribution of consciousness, panpsychism, theory of mind 32:27 - Intramission vs extramission (physics of vision) 41:17 - Practical application of AST (e.g. autistic spectrum disorder) 43:27 - Integrated information theory, global workspace theory, & AST 48:29 - Rene Descarte, cartesian dualism, philosophy of mind and soul 51:41 - Why the study of consciousness? 57:15 - Consciousness as a caricature and/or illusion 1:00:38 - Neurological fallout, rubber hand illusion, body schemas 1:03:59 - Hemi-spatial neglect & effects on consciousness 1:06:05 - Split brains, confabulation & non-unitary consciousness 1:12:28 - Artificial intelligence & uploading minds 1:16:42 - Virtual realities & psychosis 1:19:28 - Turing tests, philosophical zombies, the hard & meta problem of consciousness 1:21:49 - Psychological zombies & ethical implications of attributing less consciousness to others 1:26:28 - Social awareness & the effect of social media 1:27:29 - Current work at Graziano lab 1:28:29 - Steps to creating AI that will attribute consciousness to others & it's self 1:30:53 - Convincing arguments against AST 1:32:32 - Conclusion
I have to push back on the idea that awareness only yields that which helps the organism get by. Neurophenomenology suggests otherwise, that phenomenal experiences can happen by accident, and surely if we look at how easily altered states are brought about, or disorders, we see variance in awareness
Half-way through… There seems to be a figure/ground reversal in the way MG describes attention. What he refers to as attention he explicitly describes as the product of a filtering process and a modeling process. The filtering process removes "extraneous" information, the modeling process "summarizes" what’s left in a way that makes predictions as practical as needed to survive (in what direction will my prey run next). The essence of it is not the application of focus but rather the removal of the extraneous. It would be interesting to know how the brain determines what’s extraneous.
Good show! Thanks for spreading knowledge. Just subscribed to your channel & look forward to more good shows from you like this one. 👍 And thx for not doing split screen interviews by giving your guess a full frame & your full... "attention." 😉👍
Thanks for the suggestion. Dan and I have chatted several times but struggling to schedule a suitable date and time. However, check out my latest episode. You'll be pleasantly surprised! (Spoiler: it's Ralph Lewis)
If consciousness is a resonance phenomenon with the fundamental field, aka aether, why does it need to "evolve"? What role does water play in consciousness?
that's the heart the sensory 16:45 motor interface the integrator and the attention machine 16:51 and uh i think one of the key points about attention many people study attention uh in the literature in my 16:58 view without really understanding what it is at its deepest level attention is the reason 17:06 why anything has any intelligence at all because if you don't 17:14 have attention if you can't focus resources on deploy them and and 17:21 concentrate them on one thing at a time then your resources are spread thinly over 17:28 a million or more literally a million or more inputs at any one time and you can't 17:35 react intelligently your processing resources aren't good enough to handle all that 17:40 data processing all at the same time the only way you get any kind of intelligent behavior out of anything including us
If one imagine that the discharge frequencies of neurons is the means by which analogies are encoded and maintained and that the function of synapses is to enable analogies to modulate each other in a process that must be most of what the word 'thinking' is referring to, would that imagining resonate with your way of thinking?
@@drtevinnaidu Thanks. I too would love to hear Michael's thoughts. I find them to be quite lovely. A little more... It seems to me that, insofar as every word of every language is essentially an analogy, neurons, whose main function is to maintain analogies and permit of their modulation, are extraordinarily well suited for linguistic operations. With this in mind (lol), while considering the word 'self', especially vis-a-vis its aspect as analogy, one can't but help image a great likelihood for some neuron or more like, some subset net of neurons, do the job of maintaining the essence of what the self is. Interesting to me that the abstract thing that is the self, as instantiated in actuality by the analogy encoding frequencies of neurons, can move muscle by merely adjusting the frequencies of the connected neurons responsible for the movement analogies. Cheers!
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL Keep a look out for one of my upcoming episodes with Michael Levin. We'll be discussing this and how some of the electric contents of the brain can have implications on the software of the mind. With DNA being the hardware coding the mind. I love your enthusiasm!
Our consciousness come for a bigger source call God, our brains is receiving constantly information for The Bigger source out of our control, for that you never can do what the lion do so who is smart
A cat can think that we are stupid because in his own consciousness we can not do what he does, same for every living thing so please be smart and recognize God who is the answer for poor thing like us
No no consciousness come from the bigger source of I call God, each type of life in Earth have their own consciousness giving by the creator is not about evolution no no no
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Introduction
0:19 - What is consciousness?
2:39 - Attention vs awareness
5:50 - Subjectivity & phenomenal consciousness
9:20 - Evolution of attention, awareness & consciousness
10:31 - Neurons, crabs, frogs, & the optic tectum
18:01 - Octopuses & alien minds
21:55 - Humans, the cerebral cortex & focused attention
21:14 - Attention schema theory (AST)
28:10 - Attribution of consciousness, panpsychism, theory of mind
32:27 - Intramission vs extramission (physics of vision)
41:17 - Practical application of AST (e.g. autistic spectrum disorder)
43:27 - Integrated information theory, global workspace theory, & AST
48:29 - Rene Descarte, cartesian dualism, philosophy of mind and soul
51:41 - Why the study of consciousness?
57:15 - Consciousness as a caricature and/or illusion
1:00:38 - Neurological fallout, rubber hand illusion, body schemas
1:03:59 - Hemi-spatial neglect & effects on consciousness
1:06:05 - Split brains, confabulation & non-unitary consciousness
1:12:28 - Artificial intelligence & uploading minds
1:16:42 - Virtual realities & psychosis
1:19:28 - Turing tests, philosophical zombies, the hard & meta problem of consciousness
1:21:49 - Psychological zombies & ethical implications of attributing less consciousness to others
1:26:28 - Social awareness & the effect of social media
1:27:29 - Current work at Graziano lab
1:28:29 - Steps to creating AI that will attribute consciousness to others & it's self
1:30:53 - Convincing arguments against AST
1:32:32 - Conclusion
Tell me evolutionist now cats are thinking to evolve to be a dog
This guy is onto something.
I have to push back on the idea that awareness only yields that which helps the organism get by. Neurophenomenology suggests otherwise, that phenomenal experiences can happen by accident, and surely if we look at how easily altered states are brought about, or disorders, we see variance in awareness
Half-way through… There seems to be a figure/ground reversal in the way MG describes attention. What he refers to as attention he explicitly describes as the product of a filtering process and a modeling process. The filtering process removes "extraneous" information, the modeling process "summarizes" what’s left in a way that makes predictions as practical as needed to survive (in what direction will my prey run next). The essence of it is not the application of focus but rather the removal of the extraneous. It would be interesting to know how the brain determines what’s extraneous.
Thanks for the interesting conversation Dr Naidu!!!
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
Good show! Thanks for spreading knowledge. Just subscribed to your channel & look forward to more good shows from you like this one. 👍
And thx for not doing split screen interviews by giving your guess a full frame & your full... "attention." 😉👍
Welcome aboard!
Awesome podcast. Maybe you can get Dan Dennett and Dr. Ralph Lewis on.
Thanks for the suggestion. Dan and I have chatted several times but struggling to schedule a suitable date and time. However, check out my latest episode. You'll be pleasantly surprised! (Spoiler: it's Ralph Lewis)
If consciousness is a resonance phenomenon with the fundamental field, aka aether, why does it need to "evolve"? What role does water play in consciousness?
Great quality content. Learned a lot from Michael Graziano. A time well spent. Keep up the good work (y)
I completely agree, I learnt a lot from Michael too! Thank you for the support!
Good and bad are RELATIVE. 😉
Subscribed! Looking forward to the next episode!
Thank you! Lots more to come! :D
Another solid episode 🧠🫡
The very first episode! Where it all began😁
Ahh so we're actually attributing ‘consciousnesses ’ to our ‘self’? Really interesting! Thanks for sharing Dr Naidu :)
Precisely. Well, at least that is according to AST. My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed the content.
As opposed to "NON-self"? :/
Can you please tell me who created your difficult brain who did it
🕊
that's the heart the sensory
16:45
motor interface the integrator and the attention machine
16:51
and uh i think one of the key points about attention many people study attention uh in the literature in my
16:58
view without really understanding what it is at its deepest level attention is the reason
17:06
why anything has any intelligence at all because if you don't
17:14
have attention if you can't focus resources on deploy them and and
17:21
concentrate them on one thing at a time then your resources are spread thinly over
17:28
a million or more literally a million or more inputs at any one time and you can't
17:35
react intelligently your processing resources aren't good enough to handle all that
17:40
data processing all at the same time the only way you get any kind of intelligent behavior out of anything including us
Loving the engagement!
How you have so much knowledge about your brain and do not think about who created
If one imagine that the discharge frequencies of neurons is the means by which
analogies are encoded and maintained and
that the function of synapses is to enable analogies to modulate each other
in a process that must be most of what the word 'thinking' is referring to,
would that imagining resonate with your way of thinking?
Interesting observation. I'd love to hear Michael's thoughts on this!
@@drtevinnaidu Thanks.
I too would love to hear Michael's thoughts.
I find them to be quite lovely.
A little more...
It seems to me that,
insofar as every word of every language is essentially an analogy,
neurons, whose main function is to maintain analogies and permit of their modulation, are extraordinarily well suited for linguistic operations.
With this in mind (lol),
while considering the word 'self',
especially vis-a-vis its aspect as analogy,
one can't but help image a great likelihood for
some neuron or more like, some subset net of neurons,
do the job of maintaining the essence of what the self is.
Interesting to me that the abstract thing that is the self,
as instantiated in actuality
by the analogy encoding frequencies of neurons,
can move muscle by merely adjusting the frequencies
of the connected neurons responsible for the movement analogies.
Cheers!
p.s. It is my self that is conscious.
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL Keep a look out for one of my upcoming episodes with Michael Levin. We'll be discussing this and how some of the electric contents of the brain can have implications on the software of the mind. With DNA being the hardware coding the mind. I love your enthusiasm!
@@drtevinnaidu I will keep a look out.
Quantum mechanics, math, science, filosofy, everything come from God
Our consciousness come for a bigger source call God, our brains is receiving constantly information for
The Bigger source out of our control, for that you never can do what the lion do so who is smart
Your stop you stop recognize your limitation do not explain matters if you don't esplain how they become to be
A cat can think that we are stupid because in his own consciousness we can not do what he does, same for every living thing so please be smart and recognize God who is the answer for poor thing like us
Word salad to deny the deniable.
Ser ask God ⁉️
No no consciousness come from the bigger source of I call God, each type of life in Earth have their own consciousness giving by the creator is not about evolution no no no
Very smart guy but if you believe in evolution you are wrong or stupid because I ask you one question who was first the eggs of the chicken 🍗
Without of knowledge of God all your information sound eanty with not fundamental fundation
You made ne very sad of the smart person like you trying to explain so much complexity without God are ever imaging that you are smating God, sad sad