during the ice-cream / flea circus scene, I interpreted Hammond presenting his "Spared no expense" in a much more self-deprecating manner to contrast how he'd been using it like a slogan or sales pitch. it felt like a very melancholic application of humor as well. it also hits a very poignant moment for Hammond where he's having to come to terms with how he clearly and deliberately under-funded all of the technical and safety aspects of this project and he's now at the very cusp of having to pay a price that never even crossed his mind; not just the loss of lives, but the lives of his own family...
JP was the first film I saw as a child in theaters and was needless to say I was dinosaur obsessed for a good chunk of my childhood. As an adult, I enjoy the movie on a whole different level. This is a better survival horror movie than any of the Resident Evils.
Couple of my obersvations: Storm was no cause for evacuation. - there was no evacuation. The ship was supposed to take most of the staff off the island for the weekend. Henry Wu mantions that he was hoping to see little raptor born before he will leave. That means thats ships schedule was planned in advance. The sense of rush later on in the movie comes from the fact that island has no proper port so ship has to leave before the storm comes as the waves can simply beach the ship. Some of this is explained a little better in a book but still - there is no mention of evacuation as such in the movie. Also - part with the seatbelts... No idea why female to female buckle on a belt would be connected to the theme of imporperly designed park. I never once thought that park designers or Ingen had anything to do with how the interior of the helicopter is equipped - i thought it was just to further show Grant's character as someone who doesen't move much outside his dig-sites and is a very practical man, (By the way - i don't know who paid whom for usage of that helicopter, but it was a great advert for Augusta 109 - it just looked amazing in those shots and many people still remember 109 as "the Jurassic Park helicopter"
Ineteresting thing: I remember watching Jurrasic Park when it hit cinemas - i think i was below the age limits but my parents agreed to take me anyway. Istill remember reaction of the audience when Gennaro died. First it was an outburst fo lughter: guy got cought with his pants down on the toilet seat - in what suddenly became an open space... And with a t-rex in front of him... And all that laugh was just instantly cut and replaced with total silence as the t-rex took that bite - great moment of terror right after the comedy relief
That’s a respectable reaction. I don’t really remember how my audience acted, but I’m pretty sure they didn’t cheer as I would have remembered that. I sneered a little when he said his audience cheered at the death of Genaro. Ya he was a slimy lawyer, but it really showed how lowbrow the audience was that they would cheer for another humans death.
They certainly aged better than a lot of films that came out in the following decade. One film that comes to mind is Ang Lee's Hulk movie. Even contemporary critics and fans said the effects were unconvincing.
Hey Lore, great rumination... I'd have to disagree with one comment you made though. When you said that Malcom's argument was too vague, I thought it was actually good. All 3 characters bring a different side to the argument in that scene. Satler's is about not thinking about all the details, like you said about the poison plants. Grants is about how the Dino's would react in this environment. Malcom's is about rushing ahead too fast and not thinking it out. The line "you were too preoccupied with whether or not you could, you didn't stop to think if you should." Then he says "before you know it you've marketed it, packaged it and slapped it on a lunchbox." Those were fantastic arguments imo. Otherwise completely agree with everything else you said. Keep up the good work. Thanks
I got to say one thing i love in the book is that the Bloodsucking Lawyer is genuinely heroic character, one of the rare fiction lawyer who is not presented as a bad guy outside of courtroom drama
This is the guy who knew to show you the rod and reel... but not the shark. My favorite scene in the film is when Sam Neil reaches down and turns Laura Dern's head, because she (the flora expert) is so fixated on the leaf in her hands that she has ignored the fact they're about to be stepped on, and her dialogue: "Alan... this shouldn't exist..." LOOK. UP.
Ah, 31:00. And at 37:00, I had to laugh, because my response to the birthing scene has _always_ (as someone who has a BS in Bio and Psych and a Master's in Ecology) been "Because if we were going to go to all the trouble of (re) engineering the perfect predator, we would definitely also give them a lush hunting environment and habituate them to humans."
I think Hammond knew about the incoming storm, but not only that, he knew about All of the park's deficiencies (like the seat belts and the doors, etc.) But whether due to hubris, or just enthusiasm he downplayed, or possibly simply refused to admit, the seriousness of the situation and didn't acknowledge it until it actually became a Problem. Now some of that is obvious and to be expected from a "CEO" type. I mean, the park isn't even OPEN yet, so how could it Be a problem, right? But I don't think Hammond was capable in his.... I guess "innocence" to see the immediate dangers over the Awe of the the accomplishment of the park itself.
It's interesting, I too went with my dad to watch this movie when it came out. It was a movie I was really looking forward to, not necessarily because I was very interested in dinosaurs as such but the trailer stuff awed me. Not sure I really APPRECIATED it as much back then as I do now, I was fairly young then, but it really made an impression on me.
Great rumination as always, Lore... I hope someday you ruminate on Westworld (the HBO show). Since you are such a scifi fan, and the show is so complex and deep, there would be so, so much to ruminate on. Looking forward to next week as always.
This movie is great. I watched it again for your rumination. And it feel good to watch it. It has aged very well. I also enjoy more the movie that the book, but I would love to have some of the side plots, like the dinasours nest explored more deeply. It's a pity what happened with the franchise, as I always thought the second book was even better. Thanks for the wonderful rumination.
Great rumination! The behind the scenes stuff and directing comments were interesting and either new to me or just never noticed them. I always thought the park was not completely ready yet, because they had to be sure they could actually revive the dinosaurs. It had never been done before, so no-one knew, if it would be even possible. You wouldn't build a huge theme park for a new franchise, that's still in production and might fail, right? They had to be sure they could have multiple species and that they would live until adulthood. They were quite secretive about it too, so they probably hired as few people as possible for everything from construction (which means it would take a lot longer than normal) to security, which sadly also caused the situation with Nedry (=only one person knew key information) and probably many of the other errors as well. I don't think it was to save money, but because they didn't want to deal with idea thieves or all the controversy this would inevitably cause. If people had known, there would without a doubt be groups trying to stop them. They might try to make it illegal or just sabotage everything. It's a lot easier to deal with that sort of thing after you can show your results.
As a kid I'd been into 2 things, sci-fi and dinosaurs. Now with sci-fi suspending my belief was easy because I knew it wasn't real. But with this they were trying to say dinosaurs were real. I just couldn't do it. Spielberg did it with the shark in Jaws and it was great. I couldn't get past "they're not real" and by extension the cast is acting. Strange because they're probably the only films I haven't been able to suspend my belief.
I remember seeing it at the movies but I had 2 idiot kids behind my telling me what is gonna happen in the film. because they ahd the 'cards' you remember the jurassic park cards?? Batman returns had them too and before one scene happened one of them said 'oh this must be when this guy dies 'I seen it in the cards, referring to Muldoon so they spoiled that for me knowing what is gonna happen
Just a decent blockbuster movie besides the impressive effects and camera work for me, but I can see how you'd love it after watching Dune twice hehe. I was kind of obsessed with dinosaurs for a while as a kid so there's a lot of nostalgia tied to it, to some of the games and various toys and dino-themed cartoons that comes swelling up (DIno Riders! lol). It's a shame none of the games were quite great.
With the briefest glance at my beloved copy of Jurassic Park 2: The Chaos Continues (SNES, 1994), I must take the gravest possible exception to your claim.
Locks on the tour vehicle doors; even worse when you consider that these vehicles are heavily modified Ford Explorers and therefore would have been built, as standard, with door locks! So someone at Jurassic Park went to the trouble of actually removing the perfectly functional locking mechanism from a perfectly functional presumably brand new vehicle during the modification! What could possibly go wrong!? That just boggles my mind and it doesn’t surprise me that other stuff didn’t work either.
The book is totally different from the film - I agree. Yes, different to the point where the two works are only vaguely connected. The book? Cold and dispassionate. The movie? Hot and passionate. By that, I mean, characters, tone, themes, etc., etc.
If you've read the book, I would think you would remember that the kids are there because Dr. Grant is running a field dig for a paleontology class. The movie does nothing to contradict this, so it's reasonable to assume that this part still matches between the two versions.
he had finished last crusade but also Hook and Always(not such a great movie) followed before Jurassic park happened in 1993, Jurassic park is also to blame why last action hero tanked at the box office
As you stated the book and movie are so different i think you cant say which is better both are better at different things. But then again i read the book first.
I disagree wholeheartedly on your opinion of the Book vs the Film, but hey, that's the nature of opinion. It's important to note, I love the film and grew up with it. I only read the book recently (probably a year ago now) and of course, being fresh in my mind, the fact that it's so different made it a special and new experience for me. Maybe that's why I enjoyed it more, but frankly I found the tension and the situations within the book to be more palpable and emotionally evocative for me too. Additionally, I honestly don't like Grant's character in the films now, because I resonate far more with the child friendly Grant in the book. I see aspects of him in myself, and I just like his character and his attitude. By comparison, the only character I like less in the book is Ian Malcolm, and that's mostly because of Jeff Goldlum's excellent performance outshining the slimy book version. Anyway, I value both but I truly think that the book is more timeless for me at this point. Doesn't help that I've seen the movie like 70 times lmao
while in the mouth of madness isnt a great film it is an interesting one (ref sam neale in horror films) so i remember something been in the film that i can't seem to find now so im guessing that i added it in because it makes so much sense to have this Rule i can see why it wouldnt be a Rule, Never make a Dinosaur that can fly or swim to me that would be rule number one as if it can fly or swim you have just upped the chance of losing containment by like a thousand percent, if a land based Dinosaur escapes thats cool its only running around this island if a sea or air based Dinosaur escapes the next time you see it, it could be eating the beach goers of the coast of florida or picking of tourist in tokyo, this is why at the end of the film when we see the pterodactyls (or whatever they are) my mind was horrified but its showed like its a bunch of sparrows flying south for the winter?
OMG -- at 1:05:37 there are creatures! What are those creatures behind you? You were talking about "objects in mirror are closer than they appear" and I thought these creatures were coming for you!
Great rumination. I thought the movie was better than the book as well. There are few movies that can pull that off for me. The Lord of the Rings trilogy comes to mind as better movies than the books too imo.
I'm not going to say you're wrong about your reaction to the books and movies, but, for me, Tolkien's version is better than Jackson's - things like the 6 endings of RotK, or movie-Theoden deciding to take his civilian population 200 miles through contested territory rather than 50 miles through secure territory, or Aragorn getting his turn at being cast from a high place to make a dramatic return later, or Faramir failing to prove himself better than his brother (and a Nazgul consequently failing to notice the Ringbearer at Osgiliath) - basically all the minor and not-so-minor changes that lead to things making less sense. Of course, the best version of LotR is the BBC Radio adaptation by Brian Sibley from 1981
Ah the late 1980s....basically when I was born so don't remember much about it. It really is a classic and a great movie. Love going back to watch it on occasion. Love the moment when you look up the name. When you said it a few times in a row immediately got flashbacks to at least one scene when Hammond's first name was being said over and over in the movie. I think a major flaw for Hammond was being oddly cheap in the wrong places and straight up reckless. I agree Nedry was a horrible person, greedy, selfish, uncaring about others. But I really wonder if Hammond was paying him what he deserved for such a key position and also why the heck he didn't hire more people for that job. Unfortunately Nedry's whining can make it hard to tell when/if any complaints he has are legitimate, but I do think it was rather foolish to not have more people who could do Nedry's job. I get the staff situation in general and the boat. But I mean when your park has very dangerous animals in it...maybe you shouldn't spare the expense on the security that keeps everyone safe and alive. And that's to say nothing about the points made in the rumination about the design issues. Why the heck do they have dinosaurs before a park to properly house them? But the park itself is a structural mess and they already have dinosaurs...madness. They really were in such a rush to make dinosaurs that they weren't prepared. Even with regular animals this is nonsensical. How people die at zoos from being stupid? If you had lions and such in shoddy containment and let people just wander up to them....yeah people are going to end up dead. This sort of tour should have locked doors as the basic setting. Frankly just have them physically locked from the outside with electronic releases for an emergency. There are still situations where things go bad, but at least you are limiting people being stupid. And yeah people get on that lawyer a bit much for his actions. Panic is human. No one just instantly handles this perfectly. As you said, Grant and Malcom are frozen in dumbstruck horror. How do you process something like that? The flashlight, the screaming, that is also a human response. Sure one is a kid and the other an adult...but I don't think age quite prepares you to face that. And the guy dies before really he can get a chance to process and possibly make a better decision. As a kid it was "woo" when that guy was eaten. Now it's more...."geeze I kind of feel bad for the guy." He had his flaws, but geeze that's not a way I'd want to go. He didn't create this situation, he probably just pushed onto this job (of course money is good so he went with it), and boom dead. A few good people do die in this movie, but I can't quite cheer for his death anymore.
I think the book is way better than the movie. The book isn't really about dinosaurs, it's about Ian Malcolm proving his chaos theory, and that works much better for me, especially given the cartoonish Hollywoodizing of the characters (stupid evil Nedry who dies, beatific Hammond who lives, etc).
The book was absolutely great imho. It may or may not be scientifically accurate but it was far darker and more dynamic. AND YES I disagree with you that the film was better - the book was for an adult audience relative to the movie, which seemed to have disney-like franchising written all over it.
I really liked the book too, although I loved the second book more, The Lost World, maybe because there is more Malcolm in it :D At the same time I think that the velociraptors were better shown in the movie than in the first book, the narration for them gets a little confusing at times for me.
Michael Crichton, good solid writer, but a huge part of his success stems from being willing and able to play the snob literature crowd. Those people are so far up their own collective asses that they can easily be manipulated so long as you don't mind getting up there with them. Crichton is a writer I would never want to meet or speak to. I don't think anyone would argue that his works like Jurassic Park, Timeline, and Andromeda Strain aren't science fiction - but he did, because the snob literature crowd loath science fiction. This capitulation on his part greatly aided in the defamation of the science fiction genre. So good writer, kind of an asshole. Jurassic Park, saw it while attending FLEASWTRACENPAC out in San Diego. It is a fun movie, it has flaws, but it has terrific performances which cover for its flaws. The book has much better pacing and visuals. The brief scene of dinos flocking is so much better in the book. A lot of scenes which are good in the movie are so much better in the book. Making the raptors GIGANTIC is a downright silly choice. It's no surprise that Lucas is good at the technical stuff in films since his first love was automechanics and then after his accident he got into old fashioned by hand photography. Very technical minded. I am a long time Sam Neill fan - he has great screen presence. Richard Attenborough is Sir David Attenborough's brother. David made The Amber Time Machine documentary following his brother's death in honor of him. I point to Jurassic Park as one of the worst film scores John Williams has done. In large part this is because the score is both overused and WAY TOO LOUD! Of course that still leaves it as better than what most composers could do.
Lore must be the actual best youtuber/streamer nowadays. This is high quality content, eloquent speech, and extremely smart observations !
Oh Hey Lorerunner
Yea I listen to this guy alot very top notch stuff
Richard Hammond; billionaire, eccentric park owner, and former presenter of Top Gear
during the ice-cream / flea circus scene, I interpreted Hammond presenting his "Spared no expense" in a much more self-deprecating manner to contrast how he'd been using it like a slogan or sales pitch. it felt like a very melancholic application of humor as well. it also hits a very poignant moment for Hammond where he's having to come to terms with how he clearly and deliberately under-funded all of the technical and safety aspects of this project and he's now at the very cusp of having to pay a price that never even crossed his mind; not just the loss of lives, but the lives of his own family...
JP was the first film I saw as a child in theaters and was needless to say I was dinosaur obsessed for a good chunk of my childhood. As an adult, I enjoy the movie on a whole different level. This is a better survival horror movie than any of the Resident Evils.
Couple of my obersvations: Storm was no cause for evacuation. - there was no evacuation. The ship was supposed to take most of the staff off the island for the weekend. Henry Wu mantions that he was hoping to see little raptor born before he will leave. That means thats ships schedule was planned in advance. The sense of rush later on in the movie comes from the fact that island has no proper port so ship has to leave before the storm comes as the waves can simply beach the ship. Some of this is explained a little better in a book but still - there is no mention of evacuation as such in the movie. Also - part with the seatbelts... No idea why female to female buckle on a belt would be connected to the theme of imporperly designed park. I never once thought that park designers or Ingen had anything to do with how the interior of the helicopter is equipped - i thought it was just to further show Grant's character as someone who doesen't move much outside his dig-sites and is a very practical man, (By the way - i don't know who paid whom for usage of that helicopter, but it was a great advert for Augusta 109 - it just looked amazing in those shots and many people still remember 109 as "the Jurassic Park helicopter"
One of the best books/films of all time in my opinion. Good job Lore. Love hearing your perspective as always.
Ineteresting thing: I remember watching Jurrasic Park when it hit cinemas - i think i was below the age limits but my parents agreed to take me anyway. Istill remember reaction of the audience when Gennaro died. First it was an outburst fo lughter: guy got cought with his pants down on the toilet seat - in what suddenly became an open space... And with a t-rex in front of him... And all that laugh was just instantly cut and replaced with total silence as the t-rex took that bite - great moment of terror right after the comedy relief
That’s a respectable reaction. I don’t really remember how my audience acted, but I’m pretty sure they didn’t cheer as I would have remembered that.
I sneered a little when he said his audience cheered at the death of Genaro. Ya he was a slimy lawyer, but it really showed how lowbrow the audience was that they would cheer for another humans death.
The kids sounded terrified, because they where! The t-rex head lowered more than was planned and they where scarred to be crushed by the t-rex head
The effects do hold up , I wasn't even born when this came out and i cant say the effects ruin the experience
They certainly aged better than a lot of films that came out in the following decade. One film that comes to mind is Ang Lee's Hulk movie. Even contemporary critics and fans said the effects were unconvincing.
Hey Lore, great rumination...
I'd have to disagree with one comment you made though. When you said that Malcom's argument was too vague, I thought it was actually good. All 3 characters bring a different side to the argument in that scene. Satler's is about not thinking about all the details, like you said about the poison plants. Grants is about how the Dino's would react in this environment. Malcom's is about rushing ahead too fast and not thinking it out. The line "you were too preoccupied with whether or not you could, you didn't stop to think if you should." Then he says "before you know it you've marketed it, packaged it and slapped it on a lunchbox." Those were fantastic arguments imo.
Otherwise completely agree with everything else you said.
Keep up the good work. Thanks
I got to say one thing i love in the book is that the Bloodsucking Lawyer is genuinely heroic character, one of the rare fiction lawyer who is not presented as a bad guy outside of courtroom drama
This is the guy who knew to show you the rod and reel... but not the shark. My favorite scene in the film is when Sam Neil reaches down and turns Laura Dern's head, because she (the flora expert) is so fixated on the leaf in her hands that she has ignored the fact they're about to be stepped on, and her dialogue: "Alan... this shouldn't exist..."
LOOK. UP.
Ah, 31:00. And at 37:00, I had to laugh, because my response to the birthing scene has _always_ (as someone who has a BS in Bio and Psych and a Master's in Ecology) been "Because if we were going to go to all the trouble of (re) engineering the perfect predator, we would definitely also give them a lush hunting environment and habituate them to humans."
Man I could literally listen to you talk for days, even if you can’t remember what Hammond’s first name was 😂
I think Hammond knew about the incoming storm, but not only that, he knew about All of the park's deficiencies (like the seat belts and the doors, etc.) But whether due to hubris, or just enthusiasm he downplayed, or possibly simply refused to admit, the seriousness of the situation and didn't acknowledge it until it actually became a Problem. Now some of that is obvious and to be expected from a "CEO" type. I mean, the park isn't even OPEN yet, so how could it Be a problem, right? But I don't think Hammond was capable in his.... I guess "innocence" to see the immediate dangers over the Awe of the the accomplishment of the park itself.
It's interesting, I too went with my dad to watch this movie when it came out. It was a movie I was really looking forward to, not necessarily because I was very interested in dinosaurs as such but the trailer stuff awed me. Not sure I really APPRECIATED it as much back then as I do now, I was fairly young then, but it really made an impression on me.
The deer at 20:46 spooked me
Great rumination as always, Lore... I hope someday you ruminate on Westworld (the HBO show). Since you are such a scifi fan, and the show is so complex and deep, there would be so, so much to ruminate on. Looking forward to next week as always.
This movie is great. I watched it again for your rumination. And it feel good to watch it. It has aged very well. I also enjoy more the movie that the book, but I would love to have some of the side plots, like the dinasours nest explored more deeply.
It's a pity what happened with the franchise, as I always thought the second book was even better.
Thanks for the wonderful rumination.
Great rumination! The behind the scenes stuff and directing comments were interesting and either new to me or just never noticed them.
I always thought the park was not completely ready yet, because they had to be sure they could actually revive the dinosaurs. It had never been done before, so no-one knew, if it would be even possible. You wouldn't build a huge theme park for a new franchise, that's still in production and might fail, right? They had to be sure they could have multiple species and that they would live until adulthood.
They were quite secretive about it too, so they probably hired as few people as possible for everything from construction (which means it would take a lot longer than normal) to security, which sadly also caused the situation with Nedry (=only one person knew key information) and probably many of the other errors as well. I don't think it was to save money, but because they didn't want to deal with idea thieves or all the controversy this would inevitably cause. If people had known, there would without a doubt be groups trying to stop them. They might try to make it illegal or just sabotage everything. It's a lot easier to deal with that sort of thing after you can show your results.
As a kid I'd been into 2 things, sci-fi and dinosaurs. Now with sci-fi suspending my belief was easy because I knew it wasn't real. But with this they were trying to say dinosaurs were real. I just couldn't do it. Spielberg did it with the shark in Jaws and it was great. I couldn't get past "they're not real" and by extension the cast is acting. Strange because they're probably the only films I haven't been able to suspend my belief.
Fantastic work, I could listen to you ruminate for another few hours on this film.
I remember seeing it at the movies but I had 2 idiot kids behind my telling me what is gonna happen in the film. because they ahd the 'cards' you remember the jurassic park cards?? Batman returns had them too and before one scene happened one of them said 'oh this must be when this guy dies 'I seen it in the cards, referring to Muldoon so they spoiled that for me knowing what is gonna happen
Phenomenal Rumination, as per usual :) I cannot wait for your BladeRunner 2049 Rumination!
Enjoyable as always, haven’t seen this movie in years, now I’ll be watching it this weekend
Just a decent blockbuster movie besides the impressive effects and camera work for me, but I can see how you'd love it after watching Dune twice hehe. I was kind of obsessed with dinosaurs for a while as a kid so there's a lot of nostalgia tied to it, to some of the games and various toys and dino-themed cartoons that comes swelling up (DIno Riders! lol).
It's a shame none of the games were quite great.
With the briefest glance at my beloved copy of Jurassic Park 2: The Chaos Continues (SNES, 1994), I must take the gravest possible exception to your claim.
"Where nothing can possiblie go wrong. Possib*ly* go wrong. That's the first thing that's ever gone wrong."
Great stuff, man. Always a pleasure listening to your thoughts and analysis.
This, in my mind, is a perfect film.
I like that the raptors kill as many people in like five minutes as have already died in an hour and three quarters.
Locks on the tour vehicle doors; even worse when you consider that these vehicles are heavily modified Ford Explorers and therefore would have been built, as standard, with door locks! So someone at Jurassic Park went to the trouble of actually removing the perfectly functional locking mechanism from a perfectly functional presumably brand new vehicle during the modification! What could possibly go wrong!? That just boggles my mind and it doesn’t surprise me that other stuff didn’t work either.
Just wanted to say that i really love your videos, man! Thanks! :)
There only making dinosaurs on isla nublar for show, the real factory floor is on isla sorna
This isn't the full movie!!!
Jk. Thanks for this Lore.
The book is totally different from the film - I agree. Yes, different to the point where the two works are only vaguely connected. The book? Cold and dispassionate. The movie? Hot and passionate. By that, I mean, characters, tone, themes, etc., etc.
you made me feel the movie :) thank you
If you've read the book, I would think you would remember that the kids are there because Dr. Grant is running a field dig for a paleontology class. The movie does nothing to contradict this, so it's reasonable to assume that this part still matches between the two versions.
To me, as a kid, the velociraptors were as frightening as the xenomorph from Alien.
Well, the park was still months away from opening and there were still many problems with the park
Thank you for your hard work.
he had finished last crusade but also Hook and Always(not such a great movie) followed before Jurassic park happened in 1993, Jurassic park is also to blame why last action hero tanked at the box office
Awesome movie and awesome review. Thanks.
As you stated the book and movie are so different i think you cant say which is better both are better at different things. But then again i read the book first.
I disagree wholeheartedly on your opinion of the Book vs the Film, but hey, that's the nature of opinion.
It's important to note, I love the film and grew up with it. I only read the book recently (probably a year ago now) and of course, being fresh in my mind, the fact that it's so different made it a special and new experience for me. Maybe that's why I enjoyed it more, but frankly I found the tension and the situations within the book to be more palpable and emotionally evocative for me too. Additionally, I honestly don't like Grant's character in the films now, because I resonate far more with the child friendly Grant in the book. I see aspects of him in myself, and I just like his character and his attitude. By comparison, the only character I like less in the book is Ian Malcolm, and that's mostly because of Jeff Goldlum's excellent performance outshining the slimy book version. Anyway, I value both but I truly think that the book is more timeless for me at this point.
Doesn't help that I've seen the movie like 70 times lmao
Oh my God it's out early,does that mean you're going to be ruminating on the the lost world and Jurassic Park 3
dektoonics Inc.
Sorry. Not anytime soon.
I miss your star trek rants...I hope you do Discovery Season 1
while in the mouth of madness isnt a great film it is an interesting one (ref sam neale in horror films)
so i remember something been in the film that i can't seem to find now so im guessing that i added it in because it makes so much sense to have this Rule i can see why it wouldnt be a Rule, Never make a Dinosaur that can fly or swim to me that would be rule number one as if it can fly or swim you have just upped the chance of losing containment by like a thousand percent, if a land based Dinosaur escapes thats cool its only running around this island if a sea or air based Dinosaur escapes the next time you see it, it could be eating the beach goers of the coast of florida or picking of tourist in tokyo, this is why at the end of the film when we see the pterodactyls (or whatever they are) my mind was horrified but its showed like its a bunch of sparrows flying south for the winter?
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OMG -- at 1:05:37 there are creatures! What are those creatures behind you? You were talking about "objects in mirror are closer than they appear" and I thought these creatures were coming for you!
Great rumination. I thought the movie was better than the book as well. There are few movies that can pull that off for me. The Lord of the Rings trilogy comes to mind as better movies than the books too imo.
I'm not going to say you're wrong about your reaction to the books and movies, but, for me, Tolkien's version is better than Jackson's - things like the 6 endings of RotK, or movie-Theoden deciding to take his civilian population 200 miles through contested territory rather than 50 miles through secure territory, or Aragorn getting his turn at being cast from a high place to make a dramatic return later, or Faramir failing to prove himself better than his brother (and a Nazgul consequently failing to notice the Ringbearer at Osgiliath) - basically all the minor and not-so-minor changes that lead to things making less sense.
Of course, the best version of LotR is the BBC Radio adaptation by Brian Sibley from 1981
Ah the late 1980s....basically when I was born so don't remember much about it.
It really is a classic and a great movie. Love going back to watch it on occasion.
Love the moment when you look up the name. When you said it a few times in a row immediately got flashbacks to at least one scene when Hammond's first name was being said over and over in the movie. I think a major flaw for Hammond was being oddly cheap in the wrong places and straight up reckless.
I agree Nedry was a horrible person, greedy, selfish, uncaring about others. But I really wonder if Hammond was paying him what he deserved for such a key position and also why the heck he didn't hire more people for that job. Unfortunately Nedry's whining can make it hard to tell when/if any complaints he has are legitimate, but I do think it was rather foolish to not have more people who could do Nedry's job. I get the staff situation in general and the boat. But I mean when your park has very dangerous animals in it...maybe you shouldn't spare the expense on the security that keeps everyone safe and alive.
And that's to say nothing about the points made in the rumination about the design issues. Why the heck do they have dinosaurs before a park to properly house them? But the park itself is a structural mess and they already have dinosaurs...madness. They really were in such a rush to make dinosaurs that they weren't prepared. Even with regular animals this is nonsensical. How people die at zoos from being stupid? If you had lions and such in shoddy containment and let people just wander up to them....yeah people are going to end up dead. This sort of tour should have locked doors as the basic setting. Frankly just have them physically locked from the outside with electronic releases for an emergency. There are still situations where things go bad, but at least you are limiting people being stupid.
And yeah people get on that lawyer a bit much for his actions. Panic is human. No one just instantly handles this perfectly. As you said, Grant and Malcom are frozen in dumbstruck horror. How do you process something like that? The flashlight, the screaming, that is also a human response. Sure one is a kid and the other an adult...but I don't think age quite prepares you to face that. And the guy dies before really he can get a chance to process and possibly make a better decision. As a kid it was "woo" when that guy was eaten. Now it's more...."geeze I kind of feel bad for the guy." He had his flaws, but geeze that's not a way I'd want to go. He didn't create this situation, he probably just pushed onto this job (of course money is good so he went with it), and boom dead. A few good people do die in this movie, but I can't quite cheer for his death anymore.
It's from 1993!
Lore you might have mentioned this somewhere in your extensive back catalogue, but do you have any future intention to Ruminate on RDMs BSG series?
Not at the moment no. Any future shows are backlogged until late next year but would fall under the Streaminations category.
I think the book is way better than the movie. The book isn't really about dinosaurs, it's about Ian Malcolm proving his chaos theory, and that works much better for me, especially given the cartoonish Hollywoodizing of the characters (stupid evil Nedry who dies, beatific Hammond who lives, etc).
1:05:38 That timing haha
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The book was absolutely great imho. It may or may not be scientifically accurate but it was far darker and more dynamic. AND YES I disagree with you that the film was better - the book was for an adult audience relative to the movie, which seemed to have disney-like franchising written all over it.
Interesting, I might check it out then.
I really liked the book too, although I loved the second book more, The Lost World, maybe because there is more Malcolm in it :D At the same time I think that the velociraptors were better shown in the movie than in the first book, the narration for them gets a little confusing at times for me.
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Uh.... hammonds first name is john
Allen.
Lex using the reflection was a fluke. As in, the character in-movie didn't do that on purpose.
Considering Chrichton later rewrote the book to better reflect the movie, you're dead on that the movie was superior.
It's John Hammond, not Richard.
(Sorry, great rumination
For a while I thought Arch was talking about the Top Gear/The Grand Tour host lol.
Richard Hammond's that guy who likes cars on TV, who isn't Jeremy Clarkson
Isn't John Hammond a General on StarGate;)
I first saw this when I was 13 and I thought the Grand Daughter was hot
Michael Crichton, good solid writer, but a huge part of his success stems from being willing and able to play the snob literature crowd. Those people are so far up their own collective asses that they can easily be manipulated so long as you don't mind getting up there with them. Crichton is a writer I would never want to meet or speak to. I don't think anyone would argue that his works like Jurassic Park, Timeline, and Andromeda Strain aren't science fiction - but he did, because the snob literature crowd loath science fiction. This capitulation on his part greatly aided in the defamation of the science fiction genre. So good writer, kind of an asshole.
Jurassic Park, saw it while attending FLEASWTRACENPAC out in San Diego. It is a fun movie, it has flaws, but it has terrific performances which cover for its flaws. The book has much better pacing and visuals. The brief scene of dinos flocking is so much better in the book. A lot of scenes which are good in the movie are so much better in the book. Making the raptors GIGANTIC is a downright silly choice.
It's no surprise that Lucas is good at the technical stuff in films since his first love was automechanics and then after his accident he got into old fashioned by hand photography. Very technical minded.
I am a long time Sam Neill fan - he has great screen presence.
Richard Attenborough is Sir David Attenborough's brother. David made The Amber Time Machine documentary following his brother's death in honor of him.
I point to Jurassic Park as one of the worst film scores John Williams has done. In large part this is because the score is both overused and WAY TOO LOUD! Of course that still leaves it as better than what most composers could do.