The adoptive family telling a four year old those things makes me think that they are making up some of the issues about the daughter. They should have NEVER told a little boy those things. Period.
I’ve always been convinced there’s more to the story. If she had been a US citizen OR the adoption was in a country friendly with the US there would’ve been a HUGE investigation, you can’t just abandon your kid.
The second episode with the Russian adoption just breaks my heart. This poor girl. I was adopted and had a pretty bad attachment disorder. I know that feeling of deep anger, hurt, fear, and rage. I didn't act out. I internalized it. But I remember not understanding it or where it came from. It absolutely affected my family relationships. I also understand the parents concern, but to return her?!?! To abandon this child again?!?! Reprehensible. In hindsight, I've learned how dangerous it is to pair an adopted child with an anxious attachment style with parents with an avoidant attachment style. I think the parents needed as much therapy as the child in this case. All said, dare I say the right thing ended up happening. I don't think she'd be nearly as well-adjusted and healthy if she had stayed in that family. And, I'm sorry, but who is stupid enough to set off pyrotechnics inside a building? Moronic. It sounds like the tour manager is at fault.
The Caralee story. Such a tough heartbreaking situation. Idk what to believe. If what they’re saying is true, I understand. But I am not getting that vibe. The vibe I get is yes, she does have some psychiatric issues but she’s in a situation with parents that have no clue how to deal with them and just want a “white picket fence” facade of a life. I do not agree with them lying to her of where she was going and why. I feel that transition could have been handled differently. Could they have not had her placed in a facility that they could still visit? And then bridge the gap between a new foster home or placement? Also as far as the little boys account of the incident that occurred, that sounds 100% coached. And now hearing her explanation as an adult of the incident and that she was coached of what to say to the psychiatrist, I have no doubt. A child of those ages would not have those words. I’m very glad to see she’s grown into such a wonderful adult with a beautiful fulfilling life. That family was clearly not capable of loving the way she needed to be loved.
I don’t believe them fully for some reason, she could have gone to a group home. She wasn’t the kid they wanted. Smh “ This was not my dream” disgusting!
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂 Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
I do not believe a single word those people who adopted that little girl from Russia say! I’ve seen that episode several times and they are full of crap!
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂 Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
I don't think they were able to bond with her so any excuse whether real or not, became truth to them. I believe all those damned quack Drs went by what the adoptive parents told them.
I remember the episode where they adopted that little girl. So sad, they obviously had a hard time with her because she was older so decided to take her back. I don't believe a word of what the parents said, I get bad vibes from them. They clearly preferred the younger child over her.
It's so unsettling to even be willing to "return" a child because it betrays the promise you make to them. I cannot imagine dealing already with extraordinary behaviors I cannot control as a child and even though I may not ever totally trust my adoptive family to love me, the devastating confirmation of all my worst fears upon "return." I would not be stable. I used to take for granted these kids locked in a closet from 2-13 on a diet of water and corn left to wallow in my own defecation. The kinds of people who go through that and emerge stronger are exceptional. I'm not sure I would and I'm imagining being "returned" and it is breaking my heart in a way I think could change my life.
Her behavior is indicative if an attachment disorder, which is very common in Russian adoptees due to the harshness of the area, especially on orphans. Attachment disorders are extremely dangerous and can turn into psychopathy in adolescence, many young children with ADs have sexually abused, tortured, and murdered their younger siblings and parents. They're extremely difficult to treat and it must be done in early childhood, and the treatments are all quite new. There's no reason to think they're lying. They were quick to get rid of her, that's for sure, but it's understandable given that at the time what was wrong with her would have barely been understood and she was a major danger to the infant in the house. A child like this needs to be in a single child household with guardians that have the time and resources to solely focus on the child's treatment.
@@SaVanityVan apparently you didn't watch the whole episode. with that said, the moment they said they put cameras in her bathroom, I was glad she got away from them (and people like you also!).
Those parents that adopted Sabrina planted that story in her head. They didn’t want to be bothered with a young girl in her tween years who had a difficult upbringing in her homeland. The little boy got all their attention, love and joy. They were full of crap and did that girl very wrong.
The adopted little brother does not seem frightened of Cara Lee. And the way he describes the incident feels off. Like something that was told to him, not something he actually was part of. Heartbreaking 😢
@@deannekliene2673 Grief is a terrible thing. I suffer from a terminal strain of it after the death of my best friend. I am sure that a person being murdered is the worst though.
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂 Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
I remember the Russian little girl story from a long time ago. Being adopted at four years old myself and understanding I had early childhood trauma, my heart broke for Sabrina. I understand her completely. I am so happy to see that God is centered in her life, He is a God of restoration. He heals us, defends us and gives us dignity. ❤ Psalm 68:5 Exodus 22:22 Matthew 19:14.
Honestly, for a moment I felt tired of so many stories about crimes, and it was as if I connected with the universe that brought me this wonderful and real story about adoption. Finally, for the first time after so long that I heard and saw 48 Hours, I felt happy because of the happy ending. I think that this type of story should be posted more often. Thank you for the opportunity and for making me feel happy with a happy ending. Crimes or supposed crimes do not always end with catastrophic endings.
@@EnglishItalianathe tax credits and financial assistance. Or because they want to appear virtuous, they’re many reasons for adopting a child not all of them have good intentions. There was one man who adopted a bunch of boys just to abuse them. He was a fake Hasid also.
@@kadeforshort I believe that adoption agency did not tell them the truth or accurate history of Carlee! They wanted the business to be done. Even normal children develop some bad behaviors in orphanage due to the lack of attention, kindness and care! I might be wrong, but I don’t trust the Russians.
Edgar Pickett, God bless you and the hard work you put into dusting for prints, your dedication to your work is evident. It’s clear this case had a huge impact on everyone involved and your hard work back then allowed for time to pass and advances to be made and resolution to be made.
So glad the son was able to make up with his Mom before she died. It is not easy to go on at all after such tragedy, even worse with guilt on one's mind.❤❤❤
Yes and what kids don't know is as a mom you don't even think about those fights.… I do hope nobody thinks about some fight they had before a death of a loved one! Life and love is much bigger then that
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂 Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
It is crazy how those cops at the end of the Linda Slaton case said they don't think the bad guy "just slipped through the net"... when he obviously did. They are so defensive of their shoddy police work. Pathetic.
I can’t listen to these poor excuses for parents talk about that poor little girl. She was obviously traumatized in some way as many adoptees are and instead of helping her they blamed it on her. Horrible people who should never have been able to continue to raise the little boy. They’re disgusting.
I agree with you. Even before I saw the 2nd half, I just knew that she was sent to the US with the wrong kind of people. They were pretentious and really only wanted that boy.
It was stated clearly the parents did everything they could for the child and it was just as clear after attempting to throw the little boy over the porch railing that nothing was helping. It appeared the child was a danger to herself and everyone else in the family. I'm just curious as to what you would be the next steps to take. Frankly, I think the fault lies with the orphanage who clearly LIED about this child's mental health but hey maybe I'm not seeing it clearly.
@@AlpineSprinklesdid you watch it until the end when Troy catches up with sabrina as an adult? She’s happily married with 3 kids, but she explained her side of the story and I believe her. I was on the parents side at first, but I thought it was weird how quick Joshua said his sister tried to kill him. He was 4, even if she was trying to kill him he wouldn’t have understood that. What kind of parent would tell their 4 year old that? Even if it was true that’s not an appropriate response to give to your toddler. It was the lack of remorse that made me start questioning the parents. They were in such a hurry to leave Russia fully knowing they just abandoned a child for a SECOND time now. The mother doesn’t even shed a tear? If they really believed sabrina had so many mental health and attachment issues, how could they actually think returning her would help her? If they thought of Sabrina as their child like they did Joshua, why couldn’t Joshua stay at grandmas ever? Sabrina is put in a pediatric psych ward for 4 months and they wouldn’t consider even coming up with some kind of alternating schedule first? They didn’t try “everything”, not even close. Sabrina’s side of the story is what fully changed my mind. Even if the parents were telling the truth, I find it very hard to believe not a single person or organization in the US would take Sabrina. If that happened then Sabrina might talk about what actually happened one day and expose them for the pathetic humans they are. Why do you think they declined the update interview? They know what they did. No excuses for abandoning a child, period. Especially in another country. I can’t even imagine the pain and trauma sabrina had to endure, I was heartbroken for her. The woman from the original orphanage who rescued her and brought her back to the US is a hero. Her face was also another indication the parents are full of shit. I know a “they are full of shit” facial expression from anywhere. Children aren’t returnable just because they aren’t good enough for you they are quite literally a lifelong commitment. People constantly get bashed for rehoming pets bc “pets are a lifelong commitment”, even if it comes down to a place to live for someone and their kids. Attack landlord’s pet policies not people just trying to survive. But now we all know where the producers of Orphan got their pitch from
This is truly one of the most horrific disasters that’s ever happened. I’ve done a fair amount of research on this case, and I am glad to hear more from the brothers. I think that they didn’t know how to run a club but that they’re not responsible for the way that things happened. It’s good to know that they didn’t know there were going to be pyrotechnics used. I feel bad for literally everyone involved.
How DARE anyone, especially the reporter, judge these people. They're saints for not disposing of this little murderer in the making. I hope this couple gets the support they deserve
Sabrina's Story(Caralee): I feel bad for Sabrina. Those parents should have just taken her home alone, let everyone get adjusted, THEN bring in amother child. That poor girl had trauma and needed patience, love, and attention. I believe her story and I am so glad she ended up doing so well in life. People are more loyal to rescued shelter animals than they are children. Shame on those parents. Sabrina, I see you girl. I'm sorry for what happened to you, but just as James(Bible) tells us, we go through our trials and tribulations to comfort others who face the same trials. So we may tell them of the one who got us through. God bless you and your beautiful family.
Regarding the fire…I think the number one person to blame is the idiot that set off the pyrotechnics! He knew how far they would go up and it was plain to see the ceiling was not that high.🙄
These poor kids. The feeling of rejection they must feel knowing their own parents didn’t want them. Couldn’t imagine how that would make someone feel.
That little girl from Russia should have never been sent back to Russia she was not given a chance and those people should never be able to adopt again😠‼️ I'm glad that she is back in the United States and Married with 4 children and loving Husband she is Beautiful 💞
I was adopted at one from Russia, and have infant abandonment syndrome. Because she was at the orphanage for critical years of her life and development would warrant her behaviour and mental health issues. That were manipulated by her adoptive parents. Now they’re abandoning her in Russia. In Russia. Again. Kids are so intuitive. They know. It’s so so cruel. I’m happy she got a happy outcome and was able to move back. Post Soviet Russia is devastating.
1. The perpetrator was only questioned on the phone - an unforgivable superficiality, why was he questioned at all then? Either you work carefully or not at all! And why were the fingerprints secured at the crime scene not compared with all persons in the victim's immediate vicinity - suspected or not? Not such a big effort, right? 2. His fingerprints were then archived in 1984 - a regular routine repeated query in the database would have solved the case at the latest then! 3. By the way, why did they have to observe him in order to get current DNA and even rummaged through his garbage? With the evidence already available - DNA and fingerprints - it should have been possible to simply summon him and secure his DNA even against his will! Conclusion: The perpetrator was able to live 38 years in freedom because of inadequate police investigations!
I very much agree with the brothers. I mean, I worked for fortune five hundred company and we weren't allowed to miss any kind of osha guidelines. And you can look at hundreds and hundreds of cases where inspectors didn't do their job and there were unsafe conditions in houses and office buildings where they've been held responsible. I think at the end of the day, if I was a victim, I would obviously be angry at all of them, but I'd be mostly angry. At the one with the power to prevent doors from being opened. This would have never happened if the code violation had to be fixed first.
I see myself in Ms Cole. At 12 yrs old I cried when I reached puberty. I was immature, misinformed, and did not want to grow up. And yet, I worked through it- on my own- without surgery. I feel so bad after hearing what this girl’s tragic experience. Shame on her doctors.
I feel so bad for the adopted girl. I really think the BIGGEST problem was that she needed to be an only child, in order to overcome the feelings of being ignored. I only get to see this news story and don't get the whole picture. Maybe I'm wrong. I just got that feeling by watching how the adoptive parents spoke about her in front of the boy. It was like they were telling her she wasn't as good as him.
In the case of the little girl, what happened to the perfect child. To me it sounds like the mom and dad are doing this to the kids and that little four year old, admitting or saying that he was almost killed that sound like it was practice and taught to him by somebody somebody needs to look into the mom and dad and help save those kids. If they said they have cameras everywhere and alarms. Where is the video of her hurting the dog? I think it’s the mom and dad that are wanting attention.
Overlooked? Didn't you see they named a crime lab with his name and he received recognition and praise before he passed away? My god, it's like you cherry picked only what you wanted to see...@@kellykapowski1969
@@kellykapowski1969Overlooked? Didn't you see they named a crime lab with his name and he received recognition and praise before he passed away? It's like you cherry picked only what you wanted to see...
"Returning" a CHILD(!!!) And to a country You removed them from... where they clearly have NO ONE. Heartbreaking, what this sweet girl was made to endure through life. Any mental health struggles she may encounter- are entirely understandable. Those 'parents' need help/ jail bars.
The worst part was adopting another child, Joshua, would be the beat all end all for Karalee. Think of what that's like for the first adoptee and how these American folk made it seem like Karalee is the problem. She wanted to be the only one. They made her feel like an outsider.
I don’t blame the parents that are taking their daughter back to Russia . They have to protect their youngest child. She said many times she will hurt him. She is not telling the truth when she says she didn’t try to hurt him. She is lying about not hurting him.
The BEST story I've ever seen was the adoption of Jonah. Damn! That mother. She REALLY REALLY loved her son. That had to be the most incredible and painful but potentially joyful thing EVER. To be a parent, scared to death for the safety of your kid and then no longer having to fear, and know that they were going to be great... What a relief and bittersweet moment that had to be.
The couple that adopted the children from Russia should be ashamed. When we give birth, we keep what we are given! These are not parents, these people wanted a perfect little doll!
I’ve already commented on the first two the first time they ran. The third one I remember when it happened. I always thought the pyrotechnics guy for the band was held responsible for it. I don’t know why I thought that. I do know this tragic accident caused a major change in the way special effects like those are used in night clubs. It’s a shame that it took so many lives to get those laws changed. Just like the Who concert where people were trampled caused the “General seating” areas to be removed from concerts. Both were dangerous back then and I can remember being at many shows and/or concerts worrying that a bad accident was going to happen.
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂 Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
The narrator sounds like kasey kasum. This killer snuck into her closet just like a horror movie that scares the sht outta u. That killer is a monstor!
This is kind of an interesting story for the nightclub owners and the fire. There are reasons that inspectors are supposed to inspect things by certain codes, and if the inspectors didn't do their job, that is actually who should've been on trial, not the brothers. Well the brothers too because at the end of the day, you are the responsible party because you own it. However the inspecting agencies should have also been on trial because the brothers wouldn't have even been able to open the doors if they failed their inspections. In my opinion, your agencies that give the green light.They're the biggest weight of the responsibility. The second biggest way to that responsibility is, if the band really did not get permission, then they were reckless and it should have absolutely.Been mostly their fault.
I just read a case study on the Station fire. Largely because of this fire ALL nightclubs are now required to be sprinkled regardless of occupant load. You can't stop owners from making changes that violate code once they are occupying the space. What is not shown in the 3-D diagram is that a table was placed by the entry that reduced the main entrance to less than half of what it was supposed to be. They also had more occupants that night than allowed. Those brothers got off easy. Blatant disregard for fire exits and using flammable materials for sound proofing are on them. Even a lesser event than the pyrotechnics would've caused massive fire with that foam in there. And with exits blocked and obscured disaster was going to be the outcome. It is too bad the fire marshal didn't shut them down instead of giving them time.
" What is not shown in the 3-D diagram is that a table was placed by the entry" ---yeah, that was probably the merch table that the fat lady who kept complaining was at " It is too bad the fire marshal didn't shut them down instead of giving them time." no, it is too bad the corrupt gub'ment employee fire marshal didn't do his job and TEST THE FOAM. did you even watch the episode?
@@strangevisions5162 I did watch the whole episode. And there were multiple violations in addition to the foam. Yes, it could've been tested but it is possible the fire marshal saw the documentation the owners had that said it was the other flame-retardant foam. It isn't typical to start ripping chunks from the wall and trying to light them on fire, usually the material data sheets are taken as legit. But allowing them to remain open when fire exits were blocked was a discretionary move that I'm sure he regrets.
I live in RI. My step brother made it out alive….he lost his best friend. A friend of mine lost his brother. The fire marshal should have been charged as well!!
The pyrotechnics were clearly used without permission shame on the lies the band told. Not the only ones responsible but for the pyrotechnics these people would still be alive because there would be no fire.
Sgt. Edgar Pickett, I believe is a true trail blazer, intelligent, diligent, caring of people through years of always being racially profiled, judged. He was a very great human. Mills will face his judgement very soon, although I think he should have gotten the DP. I’m glad the brothers are good men, loving families, have happiness. 🙏❤️✝️. I cannot believe how ignorant the band / manager doing pyrotechnics in that small enclosed area! Horrific how many people died, injured for life, the suffering. Pray for all the victims. 🙏❤️
What does "that door needs to come down" even mean? Does that mean there is an open space there? Then the door "goes up" and there is an EXIT sign above the door, but the sign on the door say, "Keep this door closed" WFT? The excuse is they put the door back up to stop the noise. They knew they were breaking the law. They were told to "take the door down". Which seems that they would fill the space in to make a whole wall. That would keep the noise out and follow what the inspector said neede to be done. The brother's are neglectant in at least that. A fire would have happened eventually. And the band should have been more knowledgeable and careful when they were presented with each and every venue. They are guilty of lighting the fire.
Her parents just chose to drug her instead of parenting her……thank God she turned out to be lovely mom and a human being….maybe the best thing have ever happened to her is to escape this couple.
The fire marshall and the foam company should have been charged too. The brothers and band manager were culpable but so were the other 2 parties. They went after the easy guilty parties they should have went after them all. Shame on the prosecutor- Lynch!
People adopted a kid then they changed their mind. They just sent the poor kid back like they returned whatever they bought from store. What they did is very very very wrong. Thank God the poor girl grew up to a lovely normal good lady.
In the case of the perfect child, if this was their own biological child, I would imagine they would go through hell and back to try to help the child and here they are just trying to ship her back off to Russia. They made a commitment to the child, this is why I think something else is going on. Somebody needs to look deeper into the parents.
That couple who adopted really getting in my nerves. Watching it again here makes my blood even more boiled. They are perfect examples on why they don’t have biological kids. Because God knew they were not going to be a good parents. Shame on them. Shame shame shame!
Wait so is that why every other infertile person can never have children? Because they’d be horrible parents because god knew, too? I mean if there was a good reason for them, what’s other good reason is there that those other parents deserve their fate??
After doing everything they could do for the child and nothing was helping and the kid almost threw the little brother over the porch railing what would you have done to remedy the situation? Just curious.
its so sad about Sabrina. I really feel for her. when adopting a child you should never EVER even think about giving them back. That is your child, warts and all. If you birthed that child you wouldn't have given it away because of some issues. They didn't even try to parent her, they didn't get the connection they wanted so threw her away. The fire: I really dont feel like it was those brothers fault and I completely understand why they didn't go to trial, it would be harrowing for the survivors and victims families to hear it all over. It speaks to the sense of responsibility they felt for the victims of the fire. also, one of them was in the premises at the time! The fire marshal, the guy who set off the pyrotechnics AND the foam company are those that should've been held to account. If I order a gala apple but they send me a braeburn, i wouldn't know the difference, it's the same for the foam.
I am sure he has.... We all have times when stupid things were said to us and about us, I am living in a country that is not my own and experience a lot of prejudice, including 'Go back to your own country' a common insult.
At the end of the episode it states that he died in April 2023 but the fact that he lived to that ripe old age, I think he had God over his life and most likely forgave those ignorant people.
@@jumpscare1530"Most likely"? Can't you people discern a peaceful soul from a grudgingly one? Mr. Pickett looked and acted like a serene man, knowing about his importance... he even dissed the condescending reporter in this interview lol You all give too much importance to the piece of trash who said that thing to him, instead of appreciating the rolemodel that Edgar Pickett is, forever.
The two brothers at the beginning still getting emotional whenever they mention their mother just shows what a good mom she was to them
In spite of this tragedy these two brothers grew up to be well adjusted men. Their mother would be proud ❤️
Troy, you are an amazing person. Your son is blessed to have you as his father. Sabrina deserves all the love and happiness.
The adoptive family telling a four year old those things makes me think that they are making up some of the issues about the daughter. They should have NEVER told a little boy those things. Period.
They were. They just didn’t want her for whatever reason.
I’ve always been convinced there’s more to the story. If she had been a US citizen OR the adoption was in a country friendly with the US there would’ve been a HUGE investigation, you can’t just abandon your kid.
@@jfraklinSadly some US adopted children are returned to the system, labelling them as "too difficult".
@@jfraklin Yes, you can. Dropping off at Firehouses, Police Stations, Hospitals.
Agree. Honestly, the mom seems like a legit covert psychopath. Hate to say it, she covers it well, but she is Not right in the head
Despite all the rejection she faced, Sabrina has turned into an amazing woman
Single mother with a "boyfriend", even back in 1981. 😂
@@truthadvocacywhat?
@truthadvocacy nowadays that's considered a great achievement 😅
Troy Roberts, you, sir, are a beautiful soul. This was so touching. ❤️
Oh ikr?!
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Very cute too!
I never knew this about Troy Roberts ❤ So incredibly heartwarming. They are a beautiful family, he & his son. They're both beautiful souls.
Caralee needed that secure hug from Troy 🙏🏽🥀💜 still Beautiful.
The second episode with the Russian adoption just breaks my heart. This poor girl. I was adopted and had a pretty bad attachment disorder. I know that feeling of deep anger, hurt, fear, and rage. I didn't act out. I internalized it. But I remember not understanding it or where it came from. It absolutely affected my family relationships. I also understand the parents concern, but to return her?!?! To abandon this child again?!?! Reprehensible. In hindsight, I've learned how dangerous it is to pair an adopted child with an anxious attachment style with parents with an avoidant attachment style. I think the parents needed as much therapy as the child in this case. All said, dare I say the right thing ended up happening. I don't think she'd be nearly as well-adjusted and healthy if she had stayed in that family.
And, I'm sorry, but who is stupid enough to set off pyrotechnics inside a building? Moronic. It sounds like the tour manager is at fault.
I actually enjoy cleaning the house listening to 48 Hours, it’s a good day.
Come here and clean mine! I can’t do much! U have a Portuguese name, we must be cousins! 😳 😀 🇵🇹 best to you! Feliz natal 🎅
I craft n create when my husband n son are sleeping. ❤
Same
I always have it on while I'm cooking .
Me too! 😃
The Caralee story. Such a tough heartbreaking situation. Idk what to believe. If what they’re saying is true, I understand. But I am not getting that vibe. The vibe I get is yes, she does have some psychiatric issues but she’s in a situation with parents that have no clue how to deal with them and just want a “white picket fence” facade of a life. I do not agree with them lying to her of where she was going and why. I feel that transition could have been handled differently. Could they have not had her placed in a facility that they could still visit? And then bridge the gap between a new foster home or placement? Also as far as the little boys account of the incident that occurred, that sounds 100% coached. And now hearing her explanation as an adult of the incident and that she was coached of what to say to the psychiatrist, I have no doubt. A child of those ages would not have those words. I’m very glad to see she’s grown into such a wonderful adult with a beautiful fulfilling life. That family was clearly not capable of loving the way she needed to be loved.
I find it hard to believe that she couldn’t have gone somewhere here in the states. I think it’s horrible what they did to her.
I truly agree. Parents are supposed to take care of their family, not abandoned them
I don’t believe them fully for some reason, she could have gone to a group home. She wasn’t the kid they wanted. Smh “ This was not my dream” disgusting!
She would have been better of in Europe where healthcare insurance is unlimited.
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂
Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
Jeff and Tim, your mum raised two good kids, be proud of yourselves, and your🕊 mum🕊 was BEAUTIFUL💖🇬🇧🕊
I already watched these 3 eps but I'm gonna watch this marathon because 48 Hours is the best crime show ever!
Did you make this same comment last Marathon? I swear I read that last week
@Violetfemnes yes I did! I'm a 48 Hours addict. Pity I don't live in the US, so I can only watch eps posted here on YT.
Think it's the 3rd time I've watched it lol 😆 x
@@marcelokodama238same I wish we got them all in England
Nah Emma kenney is better than
I do not believe a single word those people who adopted that little girl from Russia say! I’ve seen that episode several times and they are full of crap!
Agreed
Agreed 100%
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂
Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
I agree, I wonder if the mother had a weird jealousy of the girl….
I don't think they were able to bond with her so any excuse whether real or not, became truth to them. I believe all those damned quack Drs went by what the adoptive parents told them.
I remember the episode where they adopted that little girl. So sad, they obviously had a hard time with her because she was older so decided to take her back. I don't believe a word of what the parents said, I get bad vibes from them. They clearly preferred the younger child over her.
😢think so, too
It's so unsettling to even be willing to "return" a child because it betrays the promise you make to them. I cannot imagine dealing already with extraordinary behaviors I cannot control as a child and even though I may not ever totally trust my adoptive family to love me, the devastating confirmation of all my worst fears upon "return." I would not be stable. I used to take for granted these kids locked in a closet from 2-13 on a diet of water and corn left to wallow in my own defecation. The kinds of people who go through that and emerge stronger are exceptional. I'm not sure I would and I'm imagining being "returned" and it is breaking my heart in a way I think could change my life.
Her behavior is indicative if an attachment disorder, which is very common in Russian adoptees due to the harshness of the area, especially on orphans. Attachment disorders are extremely dangerous and can turn into psychopathy in adolescence, many young children with ADs have sexually abused, tortured, and murdered their younger siblings and parents. They're extremely difficult to treat and it must be done in early childhood, and the treatments are all quite new.
There's no reason to think they're lying. They were quick to get rid of her, that's for sure, but it's understandable given that at the time what was wrong with her would have barely been understood and she was a major danger to the infant in the house. A child like this needs to be in a single child household with guardians that have the time and resources to solely focus on the child's treatment.
@@SaVanityVan apparently you didn't watch the whole episode. with that said, the moment they said they put cameras in her bathroom, I was glad she got away from them (and people like you also!).
Those parents that adopted Sabrina planted that story in her head. They didn’t want to be bothered with a young girl in her tween years who had a difficult upbringing in her homeland. The little boy got all their attention, love and joy. They were full of crap and did that girl very wrong.
Agreed. I immediately laughed at their ridiculous story because it sounded like something straight of out of a horror movie.
The adopted little brother does not seem frightened of Cara Lee. And the way he describes the incident feels off. Like something that was told to him, not something he actually was part of. Heartbreaking 😢
I agree with you 💯! They planted that story in both kids head. What a shame
Coached
@@rocb5473 thank you so much! 😊
@@eboyd2478 think so, too!
The Slaten brothers are not over it, feel for them, terrible event.
Annn
Homicide survivors never get over it....they just live with it.....
@@deannekliene2673 Grief is a terrible thing. I suffer from a terminal strain of it after the death of my best friend. I am sure that a person being murdered is the worst though.
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂
Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
The story with Troy Rogers was very touching and warmed my heart so much. Such a beautiful story.
I am so happy to see Sabrina being so well adjusted in her adult life. She is a symbol of strength, resilience and success to many, no doubt.
Sabrina 💐 i didn't expect to see you grown up 🥀🙌🏽 Blessings to you 🫂💙💛🧡💚💜
I remember the Russian little girl story from a long time ago. Being adopted at four years old myself and understanding I had early childhood trauma, my heart broke for Sabrina. I understand her completely. I am so happy to see that God is centered in her life, He is a God of restoration. He heals us, defends us and gives us dignity. ❤
Psalm 68:5
Exodus 22:22
Matthew 19:14.
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@kim thank you for your comment, very true & a reminder for me too. ❤❤🙏
Troy Roberts is the epitome of a truely good man. This was so beautiful
I've never cried during an episode of 48 hours until today
Single mother with a "boyfriend", even back in 1981. 😂
Honestly, for a moment I felt tired of so many stories about crimes, and it was as if I connected with the universe that brought me this wonderful and real story about adoption. Finally, for the first time after so long that I heard and saw 48 Hours, I felt happy because of the happy ending. I think that this type of story should be posted more often. Thank you for the opportunity and for making me feel happy with a happy ending. Crimes or supposed crimes do not always end with catastrophic endings.
Wooo😢😢😢 the reporter adopted a child too so beautiful
The toy didn’t work so they took it back to the shop 🤦🏻♂️
If they did not want a child why bothering to adopt one from Russia? If believe the parents.
@@EnglishItalianathe tax credits and financial assistance. Or because they want to appear virtuous, they’re many reasons for adopting a child not all of them have good intentions. There was one man who adopted a bunch of boys just to abuse them. He was a fake Hasid also.
@@kadeforshort I believe that adoption agency did not tell them the truth or accurate history of Carlee! They wanted the business to be done. Even normal children develop some bad behaviors in orphanage due to the lack of attention, kindness and care! I might be wrong, but I don’t trust the Russians.
Edgar Pickett, God bless you and the hard work you put into dusting for prints, your dedication to your work is evident. It’s clear this case had a huge impact on everyone involved and your hard work back then allowed for time to pass and advances to be made and resolution to be made.
These “parents” talk about adopting kids like they are buying a used car, disgusting people.
So glad the son was able to make up with his Mom before she died. It is not easy to go on at all after such tragedy, even worse with guilt on one's mind.❤❤❤
Yes and what kids don't know is as a mom you don't even think about those fights.… I do hope nobody thinks about some fight they had before a death of a loved one! Life and love is much bigger then that
@Violetfemnes fully agreed ❣️❣️❣️❣️
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂
Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
@@truthadvocacy noticed that, too! But thank you 🙏
@@therealdachshunddjangosmom right?! thank you
It is crazy how those cops at the end of the Linda Slaton case said they don't think the bad guy "just slipped through the net"... when he obviously did. They are so defensive of their shoddy police work. Pathetic.
That bothered me too
@@lp1043Me too
Same
I can’t listen to these poor excuses for parents talk about that poor little girl. She was obviously traumatized in some way as many adoptees are and instead of helping her they blamed it on her. Horrible people who should never have been able to continue to raise the little boy. They’re disgusting.
Evil parents
Look in the mirror.
I agree with you. Even before I saw the 2nd half, I just knew that she was sent to the US with the wrong kind of people. They were pretentious and really only wanted that boy.
It was stated clearly the parents did everything they could for the child and it was just as clear after attempting to throw the little boy over the porch railing that nothing was helping. It appeared the child was a danger to herself and everyone else in the family. I'm just curious as to what you would be the next steps to take. Frankly, I think the fault lies with the orphanage who clearly LIED about this child's mental health but hey maybe I'm not seeing it clearly.
@@AlpineSprinklesdid you watch it until the end when Troy catches up with sabrina as an adult? She’s happily married with 3 kids, but she explained her side of the story and I believe her. I was on the parents side at first, but I thought it was weird how quick Joshua said his sister tried to kill him. He was 4, even if she was trying to kill him he wouldn’t have understood that. What kind of parent would tell their 4 year old that? Even if it was true that’s not an appropriate response to give to your toddler.
It was the lack of remorse that made me start questioning the parents. They were in such a hurry to leave Russia fully knowing they just abandoned a child for a SECOND time now. The mother doesn’t even shed a tear? If they really believed sabrina had so many mental health and attachment issues, how could they actually think returning her would help her? If they thought of Sabrina as their child like they did Joshua, why couldn’t Joshua stay at grandmas ever? Sabrina is put in a pediatric psych ward for 4 months and they wouldn’t consider even coming up with some kind of alternating schedule first? They didn’t try “everything”, not even close.
Sabrina’s side of the story is what fully changed my mind. Even if the parents were telling the truth, I find it very hard to believe not a single person or organization in the US would take Sabrina. If that happened then Sabrina might talk about what actually happened one day and expose them for the pathetic humans they are. Why do you think they declined the update interview? They know what they did. No excuses for abandoning a child, period. Especially in another country. I can’t even imagine the pain and trauma sabrina had to endure, I was heartbroken for her. The woman from the original orphanage who rescued her and brought her back to the US is a hero. Her face was also another indication the parents are full of shit. I know a “they are full of shit” facial expression from anywhere.
Children aren’t returnable just because they aren’t good enough for you they are quite literally a lifelong commitment. People constantly get bashed for rehoming pets bc “pets are a lifelong commitment”, even if it comes down to a place to live for someone and their kids. Attack landlord’s pet policies not people just trying to survive.
But now we all know where the producers of Orphan got their pitch from
Who in their right mind would do fireworks inside??? That was a stupid move to make. The person who set that need to be in jail.
This is truly one of the most horrific disasters that’s ever happened. I’ve done a fair amount of research on this case, and I am glad to hear more from the brothers. I think that they didn’t know how to run a club but that they’re not responsible for the way that things happened. It’s good to know that they didn’t know there were going to be pyrotechnics used. I feel bad for literally everyone involved.
This was superbly put together. Very emotions provoking episodes wow.
Wow I didn’t know Troy Robert’s adopted as a single father. That’s amazing! Currently on an adoption journey as a single mother.
How DARE anyone, especially the reporter, judge these people. They're saints for not disposing of this little murderer in the making.
I hope this couple gets the support they deserve
Sabrina's Story(Caralee):
I feel bad for Sabrina. Those parents should have just taken her home alone, let everyone get adjusted, THEN bring in amother child. That poor girl had trauma and needed patience, love, and attention. I believe her story and I am so glad she ended up doing so well in life. People are more loyal to rescued shelter animals than they are children. Shame on those parents. Sabrina, I see you girl. I'm sorry for what happened to you, but just as James(Bible) tells us, we go through our trials and tribulations to comfort others who face the same trials. So we may tell them of the one who got us through. God bless you and your beautiful family.
Your right she would have grown up feeling inferior 😢 sick as that is, Is the boy as Happy and well as Sabrina.
Regarding the fire…I think the number one person to blame is the idiot that set off the pyrotechnics! He knew how far they would go up and it was plain to see the ceiling was not that high.🙄
These poor kids. The feeling of rejection they must feel knowing their own parents didn’t want them. Couldn’t imagine how that would make someone feel.
That little girl from Russia should have never been sent back to Russia she was not given a chance and those people should never be able to adopt again😠‼️ I'm glad that she is back in the United States and Married with 4 children and loving Husband she is Beautiful 💞
I was adopted at one from Russia, and have infant abandonment syndrome. Because she was at the orphanage for critical years of her life and development would warrant her behaviour and mental health issues. That were manipulated by her adoptive parents.
Now they’re abandoning her in Russia. In Russia. Again.
Kids are so intuitive. They know.
It’s so so cruel. I’m happy she got a happy outcome and was able to move back. Post Soviet Russia is devastating.
1. The perpetrator was only questioned on the phone - an unforgivable superficiality, why was he questioned at all then? Either you work carefully or not at all! And why were the fingerprints secured at the crime scene not compared with all persons in the victim's immediate vicinity - suspected or not? Not such a big effort, right?
2. His fingerprints were then archived in 1984 - a regular routine repeated query in the database would have solved the case at the latest then!
3. By the way, why did they have to observe him in order to get current DNA and even rummaged through his garbage? With the evidence already available - DNA and fingerprints - it should have been possible to simply summon him and secure his DNA even against his will!
Conclusion: The perpetrator was able to live 38 years in freedom because of inadequate police investigations!
Loving the new 48 hours videoss
The story about CaraLee is so sad, because the parents weren't even sad when they left her in her home country
Surprise Ending No I wasn't 😭 Yes i was, from the second Grown up Sabrina appeared im delighted she's happy healthy ☺️ in the U.S it seems.
I very much agree with the brothers. I mean, I worked for fortune five hundred company and we weren't allowed to miss any kind of osha guidelines. And you can look at hundreds and hundreds of cases where inspectors didn't do their job and there were unsafe conditions in houses and office buildings where they've been held responsible. I think at the end of the day, if I was a victim, I would obviously be angry at all of them, but I'd be mostly angry. At the one with the power to prevent doors from being opened. This would have never happened if the code violation had to be fixed first.
Yep I agree too
I see myself in Ms Cole. At 12 yrs old I cried when I reached puberty. I was immature, misinformed, and did not want to grow up. And yet, I worked through it- on my own- without surgery. I feel so bad after hearing what this girl’s tragic experience. Shame on her doctors.
I feel so bad for the adopted girl. I really think the BIGGEST problem was that she needed to be an only child, in order to overcome the feelings of being ignored. I only get to see this news story and don't get the whole picture. Maybe I'm wrong. I just got that feeling by watching how the adoptive parents spoke about her in front of the boy. It was like they were telling her she wasn't as good as him.
In the case of the little girl, what happened to the perfect child. To me it sounds like the mom and dad are doing this to the kids and that little four year old, admitting or saying that he was almost killed that sound like it was practice and taught to him by somebody somebody needs to look into the mom and dad and help save those kids. If they said they have cameras everywhere and alarms. Where is the video of her hurting the dog? I think it’s the mom and dad that are wanting attention.
RIP Sgt. Pickett.🙏🏻 He died within months of this being filmed.🥹🥲
😢 He was a smart man, overlooked by the pigment of one's skin. RIP 😢
@@kellykapowski1969exactly!! At least he got to live long enough to see what he did helped solve the case!
Overlooked? Didn't you see they named a crime lab with his name and he received recognition and praise before he passed away? My god, it's like you cherry picked only what you wanted to see...@@kellykapowski1969
@@kellykapowski1969Overlooked? Didn't you see they named a crime lab with his name and he received recognition and praise before he passed away? It's like you cherry picked only what you wanted to see...
@redacted2275 We know what racism looks like, and we know what racism feels like.
Do you??
"Returning" a CHILD(!!!) And to a country You removed them from... where they clearly have NO ONE. Heartbreaking, what this sweet girl was made to endure through life. Any mental health struggles she may encounter- are entirely understandable. Those 'parents' need help/ jail bars.
The worst part was adopting another child, Joshua, would be the beat all end all for Karalee. Think of what that's like for the first adoptee and how these American folk made it seem like Karalee is the problem. She wanted to be the only one. They made her feel like an outsider.
I heard coach, and right away, I said ....he killed her...but if not, I'll come back to delete my comment.
Wait a minute, you were a 40 year old CBS news correspondent and you had never heard of Djibouti? That’s insane
I don’t blame the parents that are taking their daughter back to Russia . They have to protect their youngest child. She said many times she will hurt him. She is not telling the truth when she says she didn’t try to hurt him. She is lying about not hurting him.
What an amazing update and the second piece had me 😢. Thank you 48 for sharing.
I had seen the other stories but not Troy' and Jonah's - wonderful blessing Troy!!! 😇🥰
The BEST story I've ever seen was the adoption of Jonah. Damn! That mother. She REALLY REALLY loved her son. That had to be the most incredible and painful but potentially joyful thing EVER. To be a parent, scared to death for the safety of your kid and then no longer having to fear, and know that they were going to be great... What a relief and bittersweet moment that had to be.
The couple that adopted the children from Russia should be ashamed. When we give birth, we keep what we are given! These are not parents, these people wanted a perfect little doll!
Perhaps her biological mother should be ashamed?
@AlpineSprinkles hello, it's not about her biological mom
@lunatic5162
No but that was the origin of the girls issues. Have to go back to the beginning.
I’ve already commented on the first two the first time they ran. The third one I remember when it happened. I always thought the pyrotechnics guy for the band was held responsible for it. I don’t know why I thought that. I do know this tragic accident caused a major change in the way special effects like those are used in night clubs. It’s a shame that it took so many lives to get those laws changed. Just like the Who concert where people were trampled caused the “General seating” areas to be removed from concerts. Both were dangerous back then and I can remember being at many shows and/or concerts worrying that a bad accident was going to happen.
Watching from Salzburg, Austria 🇦🇹
Greetings from Brazil!
Hello,...watching for the second time from Virginia Beach, Virginia U.S.A. Mr. Trpy Roberts is an inspiration, as are the children!
Salzburg is beautiful!!
$tupid "48 hours" can't even get the ages of the boys right. In the photos they don't like 15 and 12, more like 10 and 8.😂
Confirmed by the photo of the boys taken 7 years earlier. They look 3 and less than 1, respectively.
The narrator sounds like kasey kasum.
This killer snuck into her closet just like a horror movie that scares the sht outta u.
That killer is a monstor!
This is kind of an interesting story for the nightclub owners and the fire. There are reasons that inspectors are supposed to inspect things by certain codes, and if the inspectors didn't do their job, that is actually who should've been on trial, not the brothers. Well the brothers too because at the end of the day, you are the responsible party because you own it. However the inspecting agencies should have also been on trial because the brothers wouldn't have even been able to open the doors if they failed their inspections. In my opinion, your agencies that give the green light.They're the biggest weight of the responsibility. The second biggest way to that responsibility is, if the band really did not get permission, then they were reckless and it should have absolutely.Been mostly their fault.
Yep I agree
The fire wouldn't have happened, if the band hadn't set off the fireworks in the first place, and they never told the owners they were going to do it.
It must've been so hard for her boys to stand outside that house again🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧😥
I just read a case study on the Station fire. Largely because of this fire ALL nightclubs are now required to be sprinkled regardless of occupant load. You can't stop owners from making changes that violate code once they are occupying the space. What is not shown in the 3-D diagram is that a table was placed by the entry that reduced the main entrance to less than half of what it was supposed to be. They also had more occupants that night than allowed. Those brothers got off easy. Blatant disregard for fire exits and using flammable materials for sound proofing are on them. Even a lesser event than the pyrotechnics would've caused massive fire with that foam in there. And with exits blocked and obscured disaster was going to be the outcome. It is too bad the fire marshal didn't shut them down instead of giving them time.
" What is not shown in the 3-D diagram is that a table was placed by the entry"
---yeah, that was probably the merch table that the fat lady who kept complaining was at
" It is too bad the fire marshal didn't shut them down instead of giving them time."
no, it is too bad the corrupt gub'ment employee fire marshal didn't do his job and TEST THE FOAM. did you even watch the episode?
@@strangevisions5162 I did watch the whole episode. And there were multiple violations in addition to the foam. Yes, it could've been tested but it is possible the fire marshal saw the documentation the owners had that said it was the other flame-retardant foam. It isn't typical to start ripping chunks from the wall and trying to light them on fire, usually the material data sheets are taken as legit. But allowing them to remain open when fire exits were blocked was a discretionary move that I'm sure he regrets.
I live in RI. My step brother made it out alive….he lost his best friend. A friend of mine lost his brother.
The fire marshal should have been charged as well!!
Wow that sergeant looks great for 94
The pyrotechnics were clearly used without permission shame on the lies the band told. Not the only ones responsible but for the pyrotechnics these people would still be alive because there would be no fire.
I feel so bad for that little girl ❤
Sgt. Edgar Pickett, I believe is a true trail blazer, intelligent, diligent, caring of people through years of always being racially profiled, judged. He was a very great human. Mills will face his judgement very soon, although I think he should have gotten the DP. I’m glad the brothers are good men, loving families, have happiness. 🙏❤️✝️. I cannot believe how ignorant the band / manager doing pyrotechnics in that small enclosed area! Horrific how many people died, injured for life, the suffering. Pray for all the victims. 🙏❤️
What does "that door needs to come down" even mean? Does that mean there is an open space there? Then the door "goes up" and there is an EXIT sign above the door, but the sign on the door say, "Keep this door closed" WFT?
The excuse is they put the door back up to stop the noise. They knew they were breaking the law. They were told to "take the door down". Which seems that they would fill the space in to make a whole wall. That would keep the noise out and follow what the inspector said neede to be done. The brother's are neglectant in at least that. A fire would have happened eventually.
And the band should have been more knowledgeable and careful when they were presented with each and every venue. They are guilty of lighting the fire.
The mom & dad (if you can call them that) taking that young girl back to Russia, should never be allowed to adopt again!
❤❤❤❤ this made my heart smile
Edgar Pickett words spoke volumes & no one noticed. I’m glad they finally got the right man who committed this atrocious crime.
To the brothers I pray that God gives you peace and the rest of the family and friends
Her parents just chose to drug her instead of parenting her……thank God she turned out to be lovely mom and a human being….maybe the best thing have ever happened to her is to escape this couple.
What an incredible story. I really enjoyed it.
Praying for your family's healing, and the breaking of generational strongholds in the mighty name of Yahshua.
That adoption story is beautiful
AWESOME EPISODE!!!!!
I salute Sergeant Pickett. I love that the brothers were able to see him❤
I knew it was the Coach. They mentioned his name too many times in the wind up of the case.
Familial DNA is one of the greatest developments in modern science. The first episode shows this clearly.
He most definitely slip through the net.
Why didn’t Coach Joe, call 911 or 0 the operator? He could have told the police it was a consensual sex act.
Good point
Sad story. Sad about the fingerprint expert too.
The fire marshall and the foam company should have been charged too. The brothers and band manager were culpable but so were the other 2 parties. They went after the easy guilty parties they should have went after them all. Shame on the prosecutor- Lynch!
Yall really packed in the ads
Wishing everyone a fantastic time and lots of enjoyment while watching!
People adopted a kid then they changed their mind. They just sent the poor kid back like they returned whatever they bought from store. What they did is very very very wrong. Thank God the poor girl grew up to a lovely normal good lady.
In the case of the perfect child, if this was their own biological child, I would imagine they would go through hell and back to try to help the child and here they are just trying to ship her back off to Russia. They made a commitment to the child, this is why I think something else is going on. Somebody needs to look deeper into the parents.
🥺😭 i want to adopt too.
This is an inspiring story.
Of course he is going to blame the woman who was dead and couldn’t defend herself
Poor girl. Being sent back must have been traumatized again and broke her.. I hope for the best to her.
That couple who adopted really getting in my nerves. Watching it again here makes my blood even more boiled. They are perfect examples on why they don’t have biological kids. Because God knew they were not going to be a good parents. Shame on them. Shame shame shame!
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👍 right!!!
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Wait so is that why every other infertile person can never have children? Because they’d be horrible parents because god knew, too? I mean if there was a good reason for them, what’s other good reason is there that those other parents deserve their fate??
After doing everything they could do for the child and nothing was helping and the kid almost threw the little brother over the porch railing what would you have done to remedy the situation? Just curious.
God bless you Mr Pickett. What a great and honorable man.
its so sad about Sabrina. I really feel for her. when adopting a child you should never EVER even think about giving them back. That is your child, warts and all. If you birthed that child you wouldn't have given it away because of some issues. They didn't even try to parent her, they didn't get the connection they wanted so threw her away.
The fire: I really dont feel like it was those brothers fault and I completely understand why they didn't go to trial, it would be harrowing for the survivors and victims families to hear it all over. It speaks to the sense of responsibility they felt for the victims of the fire. also, one of them was in the premises at the time! The fire marshal, the guy who set off the pyrotechnics AND the foam company are those that should've been held to account. If I order a gala apple but they send me a braeburn, i wouldn't know the difference, it's the same for the foam.
It ridiculous that all those detectives never investigated all that were there that day. Talk about dropping the ball
I didn’t know this story with the band Great White
I hope the brothers find peace.
Me too
Im so happy everyone is okay in the adoption story
I could tell by the way the son talked about the coach in the beginning that he was the killer.
Mr pitman I'm so very sorry for what those stupid people said to you when you were the hero out of all of them. If you are still alive forgive them
I am sure he has.... We all have times when stupid things were said to us and about us, I am living in a country that is not my own and experience a lot of prejudice, including 'Go back to your own country' a common insult.
At the end of the episode it states that he died in April 2023 but the fact that he lived to that ripe old age, I think he had God over his life and most likely forgave those ignorant people.
Mr. *Pickett...* Edgar Pickett. 🤌
@@jumpscare1530"Most likely"? Can't you people discern a peaceful soul from a grudgingly one? Mr. Pickett looked and acted like a serene man, knowing about his importance... he even dissed the condescending reporter in this interview lol
You all give too much importance to the piece of trash who said that thing to him, instead of appreciating the rolemodel that Edgar Pickett is, forever.