Andre says the death of his wife Andreen was an accident. Instead of calling 911 you dispose of the body in a field next to cows. And then you return to crush her skull and burn her body. Accident? Accident? Andre literally killed his wife 2 times in the name of self-defense. Truly shocking!!!
It just kills me to see mommas crying when they're children go missing, im a mommas boy, and it hurts to think of my own mother having to go through such a horrible situation. Lord bless these mommas, and my own. And all those across this world youve given us
@@georgemonde8237exactly no regard for anyone’s life he could of left her…and she could have easily left him as well. She definitely deserved to be left with no husband and more than anything she deserved to be left with absolutely nothing but she definitely did not deserve to die!
The only mom I know who would do the right thing was my mom. She always said that if one oh her children commit a crime, she prefers see them on prison if they are guilty, than see them “free” killed by another criminal like them. She was a God’s fearing person. She was for justice.
I guess her son being a drug addicted predator that murdered a young woman is too large a pill to swallow. I think the only way she is able to cope with that is to not believe it.
you are correct it is very terrifying that some predator coward cld decide to take an innocent life. sometimes I wonder why God gave us free will, its clear some of us do not deserve the privilege to make decisions especially when it comes to taking lives. I pray your child is protected and evil is thwarted away by the power of Jesus Christ and our Father in heaven may she be surrounded by angels who cover her with love grace peace and joy.
He allows us free choice because he is a just and righteous God. When we stand before Jesus, we won't be able to say, "But Lord, someone else made those choices for me."
I am a 66 year old woman that was once young and beautiful. And I can tell you, stay VIGILANT. I have said it before when watching these stories, and knowing what boys and men attempted with me..... it can be dangerous to be a female. Until our society takes these monsters seriously, females are in danger. (And some young men and boys too.)
I have tears running down my cheeks hearing her daughter speak. The pain she must have had growing up without her loving mother. It’s heartbreaking. And looking for her under the bed.. 😢
I'm from Texas the i-45 information presented here is a hundred percent real. When you walk along certain areas of the highway surrounded by fields... the vastness, the ambience of traffic... literally no one would hear you scream.
I live in another HUGE rural western state, myself, with worldwide famous remote areas. Most of my state is in places where you could scream, be murdered, anything...and no one would ever know.
@bonnylouwho76 I've lived in Texas pretty much all my life, but I've heard about the west in terms if rural areas. Lots of state parks, and just general desert/flat lands. Those abandoned mine shafts in Nevada freak me out haha
Well to be fair, that describes basically all highways around the world. In Texas though I-10 is WAY more desolate than I-45 especially between San Antonio and El Passo. However being from Illinois the barn where Robert Ben Rhodes (who’s from Texas) left the body that caught him was just a few miles from where I went to undergrad and because of the same conditions her body wasn’t found for a couple of years.
@kenyattaclay7666 the part where it's more desolate, is exactly what I said, that's my point. I grew up in San Antonio/i-10, my whole family is from southeast Texas. I'm not generalizing about the whole world Lol
@@IanOvidBares and all I’m saying is I-45 isn’t special in that regard. I’ve live in 7 different states, including Texas, and another country. I’ve driven through probably 25 plus other states and countries. Having long stretches of highway where nobody can hear you scream is not unique. It’s not as dangerous as it was in 1997 simply because of the advancements in technology but just driving on a highway is dangerous because of those conditions no matter where you are.
@@gcrichman53 woah, i dont know how or why but i thought I commented that statement on a diff video. Guess i had too many opened youtube tabs and got them mixed up.
That brave young woman who jumped out of Reece's truck on i45 saved A LOT more girls and young women by doing so and identifying him. That was smart and beyond brave. What a strong young lady.
Yeah. Also why wasn't there any registered sex offender system in place in his case. He had already raped two victims. That should amount to lifelong surveillance if not prison.
to me you never agree to any forceful threats no matter with a weapon or words, if she was so brave she wouldn't have gotten in the truck, but as a last effort yes, you are right, but she got wise to it late!!
My first experience with death in this life was a serial killer. I had a beautiful teenage girl living across the street in Cypress California. I was in first grade. We had the same name. Rebecca. She would smile and wave to me when she saw me. It was a big deal to me at the time. She went hitchhiking with a friend and was horrifically murdered. This was the 70s.
I was a teen in late 70s & we were crazy teens, lived in Bay Area, glad God was watching over us, finding out later the serial killers that were around then. That’s horrific you witnessed that & young women & girls couldn’t just live their lives. 🙏❤️
I often wonder how close we have all come to being abducted or we have come so close to being murdered or even come into contact with an evil person in our lifetime?
Countless times. We may not realize that we WERE abducted when it is a family member or close associate, due to the psychological control and shame that their behavior causes. It happened to me several times. I was raised to be obedient....
Yep. I lived with a guy who cut a girl's throat and tossed her in a dumpster... Because she threatened to tell the police about some robberies he was involved in. So thankful to be far removed from that life and those people. Almost 7 years clean. Never going back.
A man tried to kidnap me out of my mother’s car when I was 5 years old. Keep in mind, this was in 1952 when people did not think it was weird or dangerous to leave a child in a car. I was considered to be advanced for my age, so my mother knew I wasn’t going to wander outside the car. It was her perfect timing returning to the car that saved me. She was literally only gone for a few minutes.
That is some BS!. They tried to make that woman masculine so that he doesn't look as guilty. That man purposely killed his wife, and was still angry, when he striped her of her clothes, set her on fire, and hammered in her face AFTER she was already dead. How is that self defense? So disappointed in that jury.
That made me so upset!!! They try to dehumanize her, make her masculine, and make her seem equal in strength as him….. Only to claim self defense 😢! If she was white, they would’ve never tried that route. He killed her, admitted to stripping her, beating her with a hammer, after tossing her body…. Who in their heart would vote manslaughter?! He’ll have to account for his actions before God. Prayers for her family! 🙏🏾
Respect to Sandra,its always better to Scream or make a big deal or like Sanda jump, never go with the person you will get killed if you go with the person, you have a chance and witnesses if you make a big deal screaming fighting,
Yes I agree with this, a guy tried to take me in London told me I was his prisoner! I told him no I f...,g wasn't and pulled away, police said if better to get hurt where you are!
Idk how those lawyers defended him with any kind of conscience!! He killed her, burnt her, then beat her again!! How did that jury sleep at night?? His testimony actually swayed these people?? Really??? Wow. Prayers for her and his family🙏 I'm with the family. This verdict was ridiculous and just proves how bad our justice system has become!!
He's the poster child for not letting dangerous people out of jail walking amongst us. The judge who let him out before these murders occurred has blood on their hands. If judges were hld accountable you would see a different justice system.
@Mimi2thebestboysever you would likely have to have lived thru the experience to be able to feel it. I have had basically 3 different family members murdered. My step father, (1981) who we know who did it, my cousin Julie Mosley (unsolved ) 1974, and my daughters grandmother (again unsloved) 1991. It's like carrying around a cinderblock chained to each leg. Your angry majority of the time, you lash out at other family members , Co workers children etc. It's best you make peace with it.
In Holland "life" means life no parole. We don't have life with parole. Closest thing would be 30 years with TBS. (30 years of prison then treatment at a criminal psychiatric facility)
I’d say Great Britain has it more right than the US considering these crimes are significantly lower. There’s a correlation in countries that have high incarceration rates & high crime rates, including serial killers. It’s not a coincidence that among first world countries that the US & Russia have the highest number of prisoners per 100k people & higher crime rates, including serial killers.
I don’t know how Mamas get past the murders of their daughters. If that had ever happened to my girl, it would have just ended me. My heart goes out to them
@@skrtskit1521 understood 🙏🏽just that we should only convict/punish the proven guilty. so sorry for the brutality you’ve experienced. we haven’t had justice in the system yet either so I’m def not saying it always works 💜
we have demonstrably executed innocent people. The process is there for a reason. No matter what it's not a deterrent. No one thinks they will get caught.
Are these the Texas killing field murders? My question is if they had this guy on their radar after the first girl disappeared, then the next in his mothers state, the next in his home town with DNA why was there a fourth?
The mother crying for her son who's already been convicted of HARDCORE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY and drugs is unbelievable. I hope Zako's cellmates have fun with him.
Punishments are handed out in court by juries and judges. A prison system where the guards are not in control of the prisoners is a sign of a non-functioning country.
@@nicky_hashtag4264I agree if humans weren't fallible. However, juries, judges, lawyers, guards, police are all prone to corruption, bias and error. The reality is even a country that seemingly looks "civilized" and orderly is just as dysfunctional and in need of "order" as a third world country. Sentences that are inconsistent frustrate me to no end. For example, how is a child molester in 1 state serve less time than a person caught with drugs in another? Look at what is happening with Trump's influence. All of a sudden, behavior that was frowned upon before is now acceptable and a part of daily news.
I don't know how I made it through my teens and twenties because I did a lot of stupid things and met up with a lot of questionable people. I remember one time when I was about 12 that I I'm certain now was a couple trying to sell me. Of course it took me many years to realize that that's what was happening. This was in the 70s and our parents were so protective that when those people moved out the next day from being our neighbors and were arrested nobody told me why. Did they think they were protecting me? But being from a abusive home, I seldom was at home and I am just grateful now that I never was injured or killed. Although emotionally there was a lot of trauma in my life.
How was this guy loose he was a convicted rapist 3 times and why weren’t the cops watching him after the first girl got killed. Ridiculous, where are the victims rights?
Often there aren't any...or they are carelessly overlooked. The person who abused/attacked my daughter was released from prison without us being notified. There were explicit instructions from the judge and myself that we were notified upon his release. By the time he was released my daughter was no longer a minor. She had registered her address and phone number and I had done the same with the prison parole board. Over the years any time we moved or changed our phone number, we notified them as to update everything. Neither one of us was contacted. Of course I raised hell but was never given an answer as to why we were never notified.
RIGHT! I believe he ambushed her with that hammer. She was strong...she probably could have defended herself(without the hammer involved). He should have gotten LIFE without PAROLE...murderer and liar!
I think he was telling half truths. I was in a toxic relationship with a black woman, she was strong and a spitter. So I can see how it quickly can go from bad to worse.
Laura’s mother explaining Forgiveness, is spot on. Forgiveness is for our own heart n mind. Giving the creeps forgiveness takes their “ power”away, imo.
Right. -As if the girls were feisty and going toe to toe with him. In each case he picked the spot and when the girl was distracted or busy caught her by surprise, knocking her hard from behind, and lugging her into the truck in a few seconds.
He was in fear of his 100 #+ or - ,wife and yet he is a major in the navy?? Really?? Since when are people in the service not trained on hand to hand combat. Such bs.
And i know the show is edited for time, but my first thought was...where were his defensive wounds if he was attacked at all by her? He struck (her) first and last, and what he did after she was not breathing, says it all. Our court system was broken, how they went from deadlock to manslaughter. She provoked him, not realizing what he was capable of. Now he is appealing. He should have said thank you for only 20 years.
Wow! Andre has no emotion & still blaming her..! You can't do any of that to someone you claim you love. A normal balanced person couldn't do that to anyone..!
His father is currently on trial for murdering his young wife too. She was openly cheating on him because she knew that he had killed his first wife and didn’t think he would do the same to her. Tragically the love of money became their nemesis.
A husband that accidentally ends his wife's life does not take a hammer to her face in a violent rage the next day after lighting her body on fire. How did anybody think that? He was so enraged he tried to take her life again. Couldn't they have sent the hammer back for testing to see if there was any ash or any sign of burnt flesh on it? There would not be.
I don’t know how some defense attorneys sleep at night. Yes, everyone deserves a defense & their time in court but seriously sometimes it just is what it is & everyone knows this including the defense.
Right? I can't imagine having to sit across one of these psychopths, smell their breath & body odor, have to look them in their soulless eyes, while also worrying if I don't provide a good enough defense, they appeal, or eventually get out then hunt me down. Or have someone on the outside dispatch with me. Just being in their energy field, ugh, I'd imagine it's very very dark. It's an empty, eerie, unnerving feeling if you've ever been around sociopaths, but these men are a whole new level of evil.
A defense attorney isn't just there to be like:"Dear Court, my client is innocent." though. A defense attorney makes sure the sentence that is passed down is adequate, fits the crime, and that, most importantly, the evidence presented is solid and not easily overturned. Every side in a courtroom has their own agenda. Without the defense challenging the prosecution, that could easily end on a successful appeal down the road, because there would be no burden of proof as there is with a defense clapping back. A good defense makes for a solid verdict that is not as easily overruled. Yes, sometimes everyone in the courtroom knows the perpetrator is guilty. But the defense's job doesn't end there.
Some things are worse than death. Living 40+ yrs locked up and knowing you will never be free again has got to be worse. Death is too easy of a way out.
With letters from crazy “fans” petting their egos. Free bed, food, TV. Idk. The serial killers seem to be enjoying their time in prison. They don’t think like a normal person.
I would not have ever made that decision to take the death sentence off the table. I would’ve been like body first, all of that has to come first and then you got a deal. It’s still crazy to me that criminals get to make deals.
I don't understand that either. If the killer killed multiple people, each one should have been a death penalty. Why would they get a deal to convert all those sentences to one life sentence? Remains have a way of turning up when somebody stumbles across them. No bones are going to bring back that life essence to the survivors. I think it's more painful to think of the killer still eating and sleeping and enjoying the sunshine and birds, while my loved one is just gone.
Grown woman go missing jogging. Why would you ever let your 12-year-old go jogging by herself?! I would never let my almost 16-year-old anywhere by herself.
1:09:50 an accident?? He bought a shovel and garbage bags,to rid of the love of your life, wife? If it was an accident why would you not call 911 ? Cpr? I could not handle it when I hit a squirrel driving down the street. I pulled over and had my husband come to make sure it was gone and not suffering . how could you do this to ur bride😢
I guess I have never understood why finding the dead body is so important to the family. I do know that it is of the utmost importance to the family, but the body is not the person..... the spirit is the person, their body was just the vehicle they used to get around. I guess growing up in a funeral home might have skewed my judgment.
@@1ireneaustin I’ve actually shared that question of the importance of the body myself. I usually tell myself I don’t know that particular struggle so I can’t pretend I’d know how I would feel. I completely understand you’re feelings
@@konye618 thank you so much!!! I wish I had you as my personal emotion coach. See, I never thought about the certainty of their death. I am an introvert and so often I feel alien because I can't understand everyday things.
@@1ireneaustinit’s important for several reasons. Firstly, having the physical remains allows the bereaved to have some sort of sense of reclaimation of their loved ones. It’s like they have had their lost beloved returned to them in some sort of sense. I can imagine how very hard it would be to know that your loved ones body is lost out there somewhere with no one knowing where they are or having cared for those remains. You would likely feel the anguish of separation to a higher degree because you didn’t have their physical body safely back in the keeping of their family. Having the body also means you 100% heart and soul know that the person is dead in a very solid way. They can also then take care of those remains and lay them properly to rest, therefore feeling that an important duty of care for their lost loved one has been discharged. Following on from that, the bereaved then know where their loved one physically is, that they are ‘safe’ and they have a place to go where they can be physically close to their remains and so maintain a relationship with them beyond death. If this wasn’t the case, we would simply wheel people into incinerators the moment they died and have zero care for the remains of the deceased. Several more intelligent mammals such as cetaceans elephants and primates also show a close connection to physical deceased remains. I work in a job where I have had quite a lot of experience with dead bodies and the bereaved, and this stuff really really matters to the bereaved.
Forgiveness is for the forgiver, not the one that transgressed the forgiver. That's what the Lord's Prayer says. In order for Father to forgive us, we MUST forgive those that sin against us. It's to heal US! Not them.
@sigiloXXX Today's technology they could mount some cameras in remote areas like the ones hunters use for deer that's like when all those women on long Island sound were missing they knew a serial killer was in that area I think they could have cared enough to set it up just saying
Mom is covering up for her MONSTER son, and that is quite evident by her own body language. She is actually disgusted with him but wants to protect him at the same time. Shameful.
To be fair, if my wife took all my money to start a business, gets a tattoo with some dude, then won’t share the biz and keeps major secrets, I would not be happy at all. I wouldn’t do what this POS did, but yeah I’d be mad as hell.
I am with you. She really was playing with fire. There is a book called LOVE AND RESPECT. It was written by a professional. The concept is the women need love and men respect. That is the airhose for each group. It talks how we step on it accidentally and how to avoid it. I believe it should be studied by everyone. It might avoid tragedies such as this.
I’m sorry about what happened to Andreen but I always say actions get reactions. I don’t know what she was thinking when she got that dudes stuff tattooed on her and still wanted to be married just makes me crazy..
I loathe tragedies like this but that is so true. There is a book and LOVE AND RESPECT. It talks about the importance of not stepping on the emotional air hose of the people in your life. We do it in so many ways. I wish studying a book like that was required. I believe it could save marriages and even lives. The simple concept is women need love men respect. It was written by a professional whose parent’s marriage fell apart because they didn’t understand each other. As bad as I truly feel over tragedy there were tons of ways she could have prevented this. I believe the family too should have warned her more of the potential of pushing a man over the brink. Such a tragedy.
I will never understand women going out running. You may as well have a Target on your back. My daughter was very athletic but I forbid her to go running. I paid for her gym membership and would drive her back and forth before she had her license. There are cameras there, staff, bicycle classes Zumba everything you could need for exercise. Please parents do not let your daughters go running! Do not let children walk to school alone! Every woman should have on her keychain mace and one of those noise alarms that you can pull. Additionally if you're looking for exercise, try taekwondo classes.
Omg how could you hurt a child !! It breaks my heart the lady said she has nightmares her daughter being hurt if i could take her place so she could be her i would so her mother and her never fill that pain.!! Im so sorry moms and fathers
This is far more interesting than watching the UK news at the moment which is obsessed with one news item which I am sure you can guess what that is. I am not watching any news for days whilst they get over it.
I watched the initial announcement once, and had it running a few times...I feel very bad for the person they are speaking about and their children. It is all pertinent to me.
Where is this cop that told that mama she should consider herself lucky they are even working on her case? I need to know that he ate those words and apologized.
I have been acquainted with 2 serial killers in my younger life. One frequented a club I went to, the other dated a girl I went to high school with. Tuscaloosa Alabama. Thank God both were caught.
His 'violent takedown' was very disappointing. I expected something more violent for a murderer. If anyone thinks that was violent, think about what this victim went through. SMH
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Andre says the death of his wife Andreen was an accident. Instead of calling 911 you dispose of the body in a field next to cows. And then you return to crush her skull and burn her body. Accident? Accident? Andre literally killed his wife 2 times in the name of self-defense. Truly shocking!!!
She was hardly an innocent person herself. Js.
He was probably still extremely angry at her even after she was dead because of her affair.
🎯🎯EXACTLY!
You wouldn't be angry if someone cheat you out of your future and present? I'd suggest not stealing from people money wise and emotionally wise too
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Yup. 48 Hours treats her like a saint. She wasn't.
It just kills me to see mommas crying when they're children go missing, im a mommas boy, and it hurts to think of my own mother having to go through such a horrible situation.
Lord bless these mommas, and my own. And all those across this world youve given us
Aweeee❤❤❤❤❤❤ I am a mommy to a mommy's girl. Such sweet words. ❤❤❤❤
Ugggg. Child predators should never be released
Never
They should be released... from their life.
Why do these prisoners and so on know their rights but don't afford their victims any rights?
Predators and monsters do not honor any life except their own.
They do not care about anyone besides themselves. They have no empathy. None. Zip.
Everything is all about them.
She came home with her boyfriends initials tatood on her body ! She asked for what she got !
@@georgemonde8237exactly no regard for anyone’s life he could of left her…and she could have easily left him as well. She definitely deserved to be left with no husband and more than anything she deserved to be left with absolutely nothing but she definitely did not deserve to die!
It’s almost unbearable listening to his mom talk. Ma’am your son is a MONSTER and you’re making excuses for him.
What a lot of the parents do they be so proud to say their child is innocent and end up being so baffled when the truth comes to light
Jeffrey Dahmer's parents were the best. Both took responsibility and apologized.
"He's a good boy".
The only mom I know who would do the right thing was my mom. She always said that if one oh her children commit a crime, she prefers see them on prison if they are guilty, than see them “free” killed by another criminal like them. She was a God’s fearing person. She was for justice.
I guess her son being a drug addicted predator that murdered a young woman is too large a pill to swallow. I think the only way she is able to cope with that is to not believe it.
As a father to a daughter - who is autistic, non-verbal, and quite vulnerable - it is terrifying.
May God protect her and keep her safe 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
you are correct it is very terrifying that some predator coward cld decide to take an innocent life. sometimes I wonder why God gave us free will, its clear some of us do not deserve the privilege to make decisions especially when it comes to taking lives. I pray your child is protected and evil is thwarted away by the power of Jesus Christ and our Father in heaven may she be surrounded by angels who cover her with love grace peace and joy.
He allows us free choice because he is a just and righteous God. When we stand before Jesus, we won't be able to say, "But Lord, someone else made those choices for me."
I am a 66 year old woman that was once young and beautiful. And I can tell you, stay VIGILANT. I have said it before when watching these stories, and knowing what boys and men attempted with me..... it can be dangerous to be a female. Until our society takes these monsters seriously, females are in danger. (And some young men and boys too.)
I’ve never heard of anyone hitting a corpse with a hammer as self defence
@@Alien_Overlordnothing is too absurd when defending a perpetrator.
You mean to tell me you’ve never seen Friday the 13th. I’m telling you Jason just kept coming back. 😅
That one time Bernie actually attacked instead of just dancing around.
😂 the case was a no brainer took 15 minutes to solve
That's exactly what I said!
So there just so happened to be a hammer 🔨 in whatever room the physical confrontation started?
Mom was right. Hate destroys you. Forgiveness takes the burden off your shoulders. 😢
That's what God calls us to do. Judgment and vengeance is His not ours.
Forgiveness is the highest form of love in my opinion, because it extends grace to others who don’t deserve it. God forgave me, so I forgive others ❤
I wish it was easy to forgive.
Alexis looking for her mom Kelly just broke my heart. This show really describes the heartache these families go through.
I have tears running down my cheeks hearing her daughter speak. The pain she must have had growing up without her loving mother. It’s heartbreaking. And looking for her under the bed.. 😢
I'm from Texas the i-45 information presented here is a hundred percent real. When you walk along certain areas of the highway surrounded by fields... the vastness, the ambience of traffic... literally no one would hear you scream.
I live in another HUGE rural western state, myself, with worldwide famous remote areas. Most of my state is in places where you could scream, be murdered, anything...and no one would ever know.
@bonnylouwho76 I've lived in Texas pretty much all my life, but I've heard about the west in terms if rural areas. Lots of state parks, and just general desert/flat lands. Those abandoned mine shafts in Nevada freak me out haha
Well to be fair, that describes basically all highways around the world. In Texas though I-10 is WAY more desolate than I-45 especially between San Antonio and El Passo. However being from Illinois the barn where Robert Ben Rhodes (who’s from Texas) left the body that caught him was just a few miles from where I went to undergrad and because of the same conditions her body wasn’t found for a couple of years.
@kenyattaclay7666 the part where it's more desolate, is exactly what I said, that's my point. I grew up in San Antonio/i-10, my whole family is from southeast Texas. I'm not generalizing about the whole world Lol
@@IanOvidBares and all I’m saying is I-45 isn’t special in that regard. I’ve live in 7 different states, including Texas, and another country. I’ve driven through probably 25 plus other states and countries. Having long stretches of highway where nobody can hear you scream is not unique. It’s not as dangerous as it was in 1997 simply because of the advancements in technology but just driving on a highway is dangerous because of those conditions no matter where you are.
She's a spitting image of her mom... Beautiful
Which young woman are you referring to?
@@gcrichman53 woah, i dont know how or why but i thought I commented that statement on a diff video. Guess i had too many opened youtube tabs and got them mixed up.
Alexis looks like her mom fs
That brave young woman who jumped out of Reece's truck on i45 saved A LOT more girls and young women by doing so and identifying him. That was smart and beyond brave. What a strong young lady.
I just came here to comment that! Sandra is a legend! Incredibly brave!!
Yeah. Also why wasn't there any registered sex offender system in place in his case. He had already raped two victims. That should amount to lifelong surveillance if not prison.
The few who somehow get away have helped in catching serial killers.
to me you never agree to any forceful threats no matter with a weapon or words, if she was so brave she wouldn't have gotten in the truck, but as a last effort yes, you are right, but she got wise to it late!!
My first experience with death in this life was a serial killer. I had a beautiful teenage girl living across the street in Cypress California. I was in first grade. We had the same name. Rebecca. She would smile and wave to me when she saw me. It was a big deal to me at the time. She went hitchhiking with a friend and was horrifically murdered. This was the 70s.
I was a teen in late 70s & we were crazy teens, lived in Bay Area, glad God was watching over us, finding out later the serial killers that were around then. That’s horrific you witnessed that & young women & girls couldn’t just live their lives. 🙏❤️
How old was this poor young woman what year was it,what city and state and was the sick horrible killer ever caught and if so what was his name?
Oh how lovely it used to be those days when you could ask another human being to give a ride !nowadays that would be a ride to heaven !
How traumatic
Wat other life do you have? You said this life so I figured you have multiple
I often wonder how close we have all come to being abducted or we have come so close to being murdered or even come into contact with an evil person in our lifetime?
Countless times. We may not realize that we WERE abducted when it is a family member or close associate, due to the psychological control and shame that their behavior causes. It happened to me several times. I was raised to be obedient....
Yep
Yep. I lived with a guy who cut a girl's throat and tossed her in a dumpster... Because she threatened to tell the police about some robberies he was involved in. So thankful to be far removed from that life and those people. Almost 7 years clean. Never going back.
Omg that's crazy to think
A man tried to kidnap me out of my mother’s car when I was 5 years old. Keep in mind, this was in 1952 when people did not think it was weird or dangerous to leave a child in a car. I was considered to be advanced for my age, so my mother knew I wasn’t going to wander outside the car. It was her perfect timing returning to the car that saved me. She was literally only gone for a few minutes.
That is some BS!. They tried to make that woman masculine so that he doesn't look as guilty. That man purposely killed his wife, and was still angry, when he striped her of her clothes, set her on fire, and hammered in her face AFTER she was already dead. How is that self defense? So disappointed in that jury.
That made me so upset!!! They try to dehumanize her, make her masculine, and make her seem equal in strength as him….. Only to claim self defense 😢! If she was white, they would’ve never tried that route. He killed her, admitted to stripping her, beating her with a hammer, after tossing her body…. Who in their heart would vote manslaughter?! He’ll have to account for his actions before God. Prayers for her family! 🙏🏾
Me, too! He should have gotten LIFE without PAROLE! He is sooo guilty.
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Respect to Sandra,its always better to Scream or make a big deal or like Sanda jump, never go with the person you will get killed if you go with the person, you have a chance and witnesses if you make a big deal screaming fighting,
Yes I agree with this, a guy tried to take me in London told me I was his prisoner! I told him no I f...,g wasn't and pulled away, police said if better to get hurt where you are!
Idk how those lawyers defended him with any kind of conscience!! He killed her, burnt her, then beat her again!! How did that jury sleep at night?? His testimony actually swayed these people?? Really??? Wow. Prayers for her and his family🙏 I'm with the family. This verdict was ridiculous and just proves how bad our justice system has become!!
I 100% agree with you
Lawyers have to do their job. Or the justice system won’t work.
Milk someone dry and then think you deserve a happy life, rubbing It on him daily 😢, anyone can snap when they're overstretched.
It's not about the person it is about the law. If you worst of us get a fair trial, the best of us will too.
Everyone deserves a defense. @fenix310 is right. Without defense lawyers for the worst, we can’t be sure the state is kept to their burden of proof.
He's the poster child for not letting dangerous people out of jail walking amongst us. The judge who let him out before these murders occurred has blood on their hands. If judges were hld accountable you would see a different justice system.
Parole boards too
Gaye is also correct. A cage of rage. Forgiveness is for you, not them.
And you would think these journalists would know that! Unless they’re trying to get that message out to everyone.
And I've always known that forgiveness is for you not the person your forgiving. But I still can't grasp that concept even though I know it's true.
@Mimi2thebestboysever you would likely have to have lived thru the experience to be able to feel it.
I have had basically 3 different family members murdered. My step father, (1981) who we know who did it, my cousin Julie Mosley (unsolved ) 1974, and my daughters grandmother (again unsloved) 1991.
It's like carrying around a cinderblock chained to each leg. Your angry majority of the time, you lash out at other family members , Co workers children etc. It's best you make peace with it.
60 years is great. We should have as long sentences as that in Britain.
Britain and Australia have incredibly short sentences. What they call "life" is not life!
In Holland "life" means life no parole. We don't have life with parole. Closest thing would be 30 years with TBS. (30 years of prison then treatment at a criminal psychiatric facility)
I’d say Great Britain has it more right than the US considering these crimes are significantly lower. There’s a correlation in countries that have high incarceration rates & high crime rates, including serial killers. It’s not a coincidence that among first world countries that the US & Russia have the highest number of prisoners per 100k people & higher crime rates, including serial killers.
In Germany we got a lot of murderer who only spend 7-9 years in prison! That's so unbelieveable unfair for the victims families!😢
Capital punishment is best not to keep murders alive for years..
always so many women taken.... so sad.....
To be fair, men are murdered 80/20 to women.
I don’t know how Mamas get past the murders of their daughters. If that had ever happened to my girl, it would have just ended me. My heart goes out to them
Be vigilant if your spouse goes to either Lowe’s or Home Depot after an argument.
Or Walmart!
@@SweetCaroline10X Yup Walmart has the best prices on cleaning supplies
Word.
Excellent!! Ask for the receipt...Heavy tools, tarps, bulk cleaning supplies ?
This is the must astute YT comment of all time.
I wish they could find my cousin Julie Mosley
I pray you get closure.
How long has it been dear
I wish they'd find my daughter.
I pray you get the closure you need and deserve 🙏🏽❣️
@@redhandedgirl5774I pray that she is found. I'm so sorry you are going through that.
Women would not follow men in their car. That makes no sense.
Everything coming out of their mouth is pure nonsense
That's what I was thinking and it didn't sit well with me when they said she followed him.
As an "it guy" I can honestly say I've never had an old hard drive without knowing what was on it....
They need to swiftly invoke death penalties-like hours after sentencing. End of their story.
If there is overwhelming and without reasonable doubt.
Yikes. Not in the U.S., pls
@@MayaGTK Tell that to my battered/abused/dead daughter.
@@skrtskit1521 understood 🙏🏽just that we should only convict/punish the proven guilty. so sorry for the brutality you’ve experienced. we haven’t had justice in the system yet either so I’m def not saying it always works 💜
we have demonstrably executed innocent people. The process is there for a reason. No matter what it's not a deterrent. No one thinks they will get caught.
"Animals don't have socks." how tragic!!
Yeah very sad
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Yes, that poor father and son, finding a body must be awful
Are these the Texas killing field murders? My question is if they had this guy on their radar after the first girl disappeared, then the next in his mothers state, the next in his home town with DNA why was there a fourth?
God Bless These Mothers ❤
The mother crying for her son who's already been convicted of HARDCORE CHILD PORNOGRAPHY and drugs is unbelievable.
I hope Zako's cellmates have fun with him.
Punishments are handed out in court by juries and judges. A prison system where the guards are not in control of the prisoners is a sign of a non-functioning country.
Same feeling here . This monster is a murderer with no remorse no shame. I hope dudes in jail serve him
@@nicky_hashtag4264😂 you’re saying something that’s so ridiculous I have to laugh
@@nicky_hashtag4264I agree if humans weren't fallible. However, juries, judges, lawyers, guards, police are all prone to corruption, bias and error. The reality is even a country that seemingly looks "civilized" and orderly is just as dysfunctional and in need of "order" as a third world country.
Sentences that are inconsistent frustrate me to no end. For example, how is a child molester in 1 state serve less time than a person caught with drugs in another?
Look at what is happening with Trump's influence. All of a sudden, behavior that was frowned upon before is now acceptable and a part of daily news.
Zako's will probably be killed in Prison. Convict's have their own rules of conduct in Prison.
I don't know how I made it through my teens and twenties because I did a lot of stupid things and met up with a lot of questionable people. I remember one time when I was about 12 that I I'm certain now was a couple trying to sell me. Of course it took me many years to realize that that's what was happening. This was in the 70s and our parents were so protective that when those people moved out the next day from being our neighbors and were arrested nobody told me why. Did they think they were protecting me? But being from a abusive home, I seldom was at home and I am just grateful now that I never was injured or killed. Although emotionally there was a lot of trauma in my life.
🙏🏽 💜 🙏🏽
The McDonald case is heartbreaking. It’s even worse that her business died with her. So so sad
I mean she did cheat and steal money
@@user-bn3vj9yk6kthat doesn't deserve a death sentence! Her children were in the other room while it was happening
How was this guy loose he was a convicted rapist 3 times and why weren’t the cops watching him after the first girl got killed. Ridiculous, where are the victims rights?
Often there aren't any...or they are carelessly overlooked. The person who abused/attacked my daughter was released from prison without us being notified. There were explicit instructions from the judge and myself that we were notified upon his release. By the time he was released my daughter was no longer a minor. She had registered her address and phone number and I had done the same with the prison parole board. Over the years any time we moved or changed our phone number, we notified them as to update everything. Neither one of us was contacted. Of course I raised hell but was never given an answer as to why we were never notified.
Him saying it was sElF dEfEnSe is absolutely insane!
He was in the Military!
Right he’s a liar
RIGHT! I believe he ambushed her with that hammer. She was strong...she probably could have defended herself(without the hammer involved). He should have gotten LIFE without PAROLE...murderer and liar!
Absolutely! It's always the woman who pays for a man's hurt pride and jealousy. Simply because he's got more power.
@@LulasSongdont cheat
I think he was telling half truths. I was in a toxic relationship with a black woman, she was strong and a spitter. So I can see how it quickly can go from bad to worse.
Laura’s mother explaining Forgiveness, is spot on. Forgiveness is for our own heart n mind.
Giving the creeps forgiveness takes their “ power”away, imo.
My Goodness. Hearing his lie after lie. Makes me sick. "The poor guy just gets into it with victim after victim" Great Work by the Rangers.
Right. -As if the girls were feisty and going toe to toe with him.
In each case he picked the spot and when the girl was distracted or busy caught her by surprise, knocking her hard from behind, and lugging her into the truck in a few seconds.
He was in fear of his 100 #+ or - ,wife and yet he is a major in the navy?? Really?? Since when are people in the service not trained on hand to hand combat. Such bs.
He probably been abusing her for a while and that’s why she was cheating
And i know the show is edited for time, but my first thought was...where were his defensive wounds if he was attacked at all by her? He struck (her) first and last, and what he did after she was not breathing, says it all. Our court system was broken, how they went from deadlock to manslaughter. She provoked him, not realizing what he was capable of. Now he is appealing. He should have said thank you for only 20 years.
Was he a Captain in the Air Force?
Being in the military does not mean you are a good person.
Wow! Andre has no emotion & still blaming her..! You can't do any of that to someone you claim you love. A normal balanced person couldn't do that to anyone..!
His father is currently on trial for murdering his young wife too. She was openly cheating on him because she knew that he had killed his first wife and didn’t think he would do the same to her. Tragically the love of money became their nemesis.
So true! Anyone who claims to love someone could not do this....both sides did not really love each other.
His father was convicted in Jamaica for killing his second wife
Whoa😮😮😮😮
WOW
A husband that accidentally ends his wife's life does not take a hammer to her face in a violent rage the next day after lighting her body on fire. How did anybody think that? He was so enraged he tried to take her life again.
Couldn't they have sent the hammer back for testing to see if there was any ash or any sign of burnt flesh on it? There would not be.
2 hours?! Yayyy!!!!
Yes it should be a regular thing I think.
Man, Kelli Cox's story .. Seeing her mom's anguish and toddler Alexis grown up and looking like her mother. ❤
This is why we know Smith&Wesson.
I don’t know how some defense attorneys sleep at night. Yes, everyone deserves a defense & their time in court but seriously sometimes it just is what it is & everyone knows this including the defense.
Right? I can't imagine having to sit across one of these psychopths, smell their breath & body odor, have to look them in their soulless eyes, while also worrying if I don't provide a good enough defense, they appeal, or eventually get out then hunt me down. Or have someone on the outside dispatch with me. Just being in their energy field, ugh, I'd imagine it's very very dark. It's an empty, eerie, unnerving feeling if you've ever been around sociopaths, but these men are a whole new level of evil.
They don’t.. too busy counting their money after defending the unjusts
A defense attorney isn't just there to be like:"Dear Court, my client is innocent." though. A defense attorney makes sure the sentence that is passed down is adequate, fits the crime, and that, most importantly, the evidence presented is solid and not easily overturned. Every side in a courtroom has their own agenda. Without the defense challenging the prosecution, that could easily end on a successful appeal down the road, because there would be no burden of proof as there is with a defense clapping back. A good defense makes for a solid verdict that is not as easily overruled. Yes, sometimes everyone in the courtroom knows the perpetrator is guilty. But the defense's job doesn't end there.
@@axessenter: The defender has several purposes.
Some things are worse than death. Living 40+ yrs locked up and knowing you will never be free again has got to be worse. Death is too easy of a way out.
Except we hear of guys convicted, and sentenced to LIFE getting out in under 10.Or 6 life sentences + 30 yrs. being released in 22 yrs.
@@dmreddragon6 A sentence of life without the possibility of parole is exactly that. No parole, no way.
With letters from crazy “fans” petting their egos. Free bed, food, TV. Idk. The serial killers seem to be enjoying their time in prison. They don’t think like a normal person.
@@catherinegoodsonplus the money to house, feed them, for decades.
@catherinegoodson1486 well this is true. They are also predators on the inside..
I can't watch this, it's just too painful and heartbreaking😢
She sounded like a great mom, and student Sorry for all your losses May the all RIP 🙏
Anything from this channel is a quality show. Just love everything I've watched. Thanks!!
I feel weak just listening to the horrors, Rest Easy Beautiful Girls
And 😠
Forgiveness; "Not living in a Cage with Rage." Amen!!!❤
I admire these wonderful women and their strength. God bless them.
I would not have ever made that decision to take the death sentence off the table. I would’ve been like body first, all of that has to come first and then you got a deal. It’s still crazy to me that criminals get to make deals.
I don't understand that either. If the killer killed multiple people, each one should have been a death penalty. Why would they get a deal to convert all those sentences to one life sentence? Remains have a way of turning up when somebody stumbles across them. No bones are going to bring back that life essence to the survivors. I think it's more painful to think of the killer still eating and sleeping and enjoying the sunshine and birds, while my loved one is just gone.
Ladies you MUST be soooooooo vigilant when you’re alone, even in the middle of the day!
Grown woman go missing jogging. Why would you ever let your 12-year-old go jogging by herself?! I would never let my almost 16-year-old anywhere by herself.
The jury in the Andreen case obviously rode the short bus to the court.
This is the best commentary I've seen to date. Thank you!!!
His mother is crying crocodile tears, men who are abusive have a history of abuse.
I wish Dateline was as long as this one.
Have you seen Dateline is Live every day? About 8-10 episodes per loop. It’s pretty cool. Lots of old (and newer) episodes
@@differenttakethanmostwhere, on UA-cam??? The only Dateline I can find just has SHORT trailers or intros!!!
Yeah, going into more detail, more of an overview of a type of crime rather than one & don't. More analysis.
Kelly's daughter is her spitting image 🤍💔
As a Mom, I can't even begin to imagine what these poor families have gone through.. such heartache
If there is one place you can see psychopathy it is on videos like this.
1:09:50 an accident?? He bought a shovel and garbage bags,to rid of the love of your life, wife? If it was an accident why would you not call 911 ? Cpr?
I could not handle it when I hit a squirrel driving down the street. I pulled over and had my husband come to make sure it was gone and not suffering . how could you do this to ur bride😢
Cheating 304
He wanted her dead. That was revealed in how he behaved after killing her.
Letting him live to get the deceased recovered is a no brainer. Family gets what they need, and the suspect gets everything he doesn’t need in jail.
I guess I have never understood why finding the dead body is so important to the family. I do know that it is of the utmost importance to the family, but the body is not the person..... the spirit is the person, their body was just the vehicle they used to get around. I guess growing up in a funeral home might have skewed my judgment.
@@1ireneaustin I’ve actually shared that question of the importance of the body myself. I usually tell myself I don’t know that particular struggle so I can’t pretend I’d know how I would feel.
I completely understand you’re feelings
It confirms that they are indeed dead for some people, then it's not just speculation
@@konye618 thank you so much!!! I wish I had you as my personal emotion coach. See, I never thought about the certainty of their death. I am an introvert and so often I feel alien because I can't understand everyday things.
@@1ireneaustinit’s important for several reasons.
Firstly, having the physical remains allows the bereaved to have some sort of sense of reclaimation of their loved ones. It’s like they have had their lost beloved returned to them in some sort of sense. I can imagine how very hard it would be to know that your loved ones body is lost out there somewhere with no one knowing where they are or having cared for those remains. You would likely feel the anguish of separation to a higher degree because you didn’t have their physical body safely back in the keeping of their family. Having the body also means you 100% heart and soul know that the person is dead in a very solid way.
They can also then take care of those remains and lay them properly to rest, therefore feeling that an important duty of care for their lost loved one has been discharged.
Following on from that, the bereaved then know where their loved one physically is, that they are ‘safe’ and they have a place to go where they can be physically close to their remains and so maintain a relationship with them beyond death.
If this wasn’t the case, we would simply wheel people into incinerators the moment they died and have zero care for the remains of the deceased.
Several more intelligent mammals such as cetaceans elephants and primates also show a close connection to physical deceased remains.
I work in a job where I have had quite a lot of experience with dead bodies and the bereaved, and this stuff really really matters to the bereaved.
Forgiveness is for the forgiver, not the one that transgressed the forgiver. That's what the Lord's Prayer says. In order for Father to forgive us, we MUST forgive those that sin against us. It's to heal US! Not them.
Half these murders could be prevented by surveillance cameras The UK has them everywhere we can afford them here it's America
But not in vast fields of corn...
@sigiloXXX
Today's technology they could mount some cameras in remote areas like the ones hunters use for deer that's like when all those women on long Island sound were missing they knew a serial killer was in that area I think they could have cared enough to set it up just saying
Prevented? By cameras? Not likely. Easier solved perhaps but the only preventatives are 1) better parenting 2) SERIOUS and SWIFT punishment.
@@RitaDoran-p4vI said that long ago. A few hundred bucks for that, these women's lives weren't worth that? Jfc
You gotta remember these murders happen donkey years ago, the technology we have today was not available then..
Anadarko is a town a woman shouldn't go alone, especially at night!
This good and beautiful woman should still be alive.For god's sake get a divorce instead !
Crazy. Unreal this happened they should make this into a movie in memory of these beautiful young ladies 💐🦋 ref:missing daughters
Yeah I always drive 80 miles for a piece of cheese 🙄
Mom is covering up for her MONSTER son, and that is quite evident by her own body language. She is actually disgusted with him but wants to protect him at the same time. Shameful.
My heart hurts just thinking about the victims and the mothers. A lifetime of pain that will never heal.
Married people: stop cheating! It's easier to just follow through with a divorce!!!
48 hours is so much better than 20/20, dateline nbc etc
I just love the intro music, gives me chills every time 😵
To be fair, if my wife took all my money to start a business, gets a tattoo with some dude, then won’t share the biz and keeps major secrets, I would not be happy at all. I wouldn’t do what this POS did, but yeah I’d be mad as hell.
I am with you.
She really was playing with fire.
There is a book called LOVE AND RESPECT. It was written by a professional. The concept is the women need love and men respect. That is the airhose for each group. It talks how we step on it accidentally and how to avoid it. I believe it should be studied by everyone. It might avoid tragedies such as this.
39:27 Wow. The best definition of forgiveness I have ever, ever heard.
How is it self defense when he attacked her corpse??
The Daughter Alexis is almost a spitting image of her mom...
Thats a small gift to hold onto for the grand Parents....
RIP KELLY DWYER
I’m sorry about what happened to Andreen but I always say actions get reactions. I don’t know what she was thinking when she got that dudes stuff tattooed on her and still wanted to be married just makes me crazy..
I loathe tragedies like this but that is so true.
There is a book and LOVE AND RESPECT. It talks about the importance of not stepping on the emotional air hose of the people in your life. We do it in so many ways. I wish studying a book like that was required. I believe it could save marriages and even lives. The simple concept is women need love men respect. It was written by a professional whose parent’s marriage fell apart because they didn’t understand each other. As bad as I truly feel over tragedy there were tons of ways she could have prevented this. I believe the family too should have warned her more of the potential of pushing a man over the brink.
Such a tragedy.
I will never understand women going out running. You may as well have a Target on your back. My daughter was very athletic but I forbid her to go running. I paid for her gym membership and would drive her back and forth before she had her license. There are cameras there, staff, bicycle classes Zumba everything you could need for exercise. Please parents do not let your daughters go running! Do not let children walk to school alone! Every woman should have on her keychain mace and one of those noise alarms that you can pull. Additionally if you're looking for exercise, try taekwondo classes.
I love crime shows but i cant do it no more this is so awful and i cant believe this world .its heartbreaking and just blows my mind
His feet look like cloven hooves. Suits him.
Wow props to Sandra for her survival instincts kicking in
Please continue to cover Maya Millette's story. We need to find her. RIP. 💕 #bringMayahome
He soiled his uniform and his oath and his vows and Gods law🙄🤦♂️
It doesn't even shock me the DA wouldn't press charges on him!
So horrible poor woman Justice was not served for her and her family.May her soul rest in peace.
Omg how could you hurt a child !! It breaks my heart the lady said she has nightmares her daughter being hurt if i could take her place so she could be her i would so her mother and her never fill that pain.!! Im so sorry moms and fathers
This is far more interesting than watching the UK news at the moment which is obsessed with one news item which I am sure you can guess what that is. I am not watching any news for days whilst they get over it.
I watched the initial announcement once, and had it running a few times...I feel very bad for the person they are speaking about and their children. It is all pertinent to me.
The mother of Kelly, Jan Bynum (sp) has a strong resemblance to Julie White from designated survivor. Her voice, her mannerisms, so much alike!
Yes
Anyone that hurts a child or a woman especially in a terrible way need to never see the light of day again. 24 hours in a dark cage.
Ngl, Gaye Smithers is one of the coolest names I've ever heard.
Where is this cop that told that mama she should consider herself lucky they are even working on her case? I need to know that he ate those words and apologized.
I have been acquainted with 2 serial killers in my younger life. One frequented a club I went to, the other dated a girl I went to high school with. Tuscaloosa Alabama. Thank God both were caught.
Thank god
Who lets someone as young as 12 go out jogging by themselves?
Heartbreaking. My thougts are with the families.
His 'violent takedown' was very disappointing. I expected something more violent for a murderer. If anyone thinks that was violent, think about what this victim went through. SMH