Custom Built Swim Platform for a 1985 Ericson 26 Sailboat
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2018
- We have had several requests to give more information about how we built the swim platform for our 1985 Ericson 26 sailboat. Randall has an incredible talent for designing and building projects. He is the one who came up with the idea and the design for our swim step, and he is also the one who did all the work!
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A pro's pro. One of my favourite vids of all the years of utube. Very wise i think doing a bolt-on. Great work ethic. Humble brilliance.
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I love that “ Swim Plataform “ easy to land a big fish, get in and out,this is awesome.
Nice. I would have totally over thunk this project
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Join me in a brief moment of silence for all the out of work engineers out there.
Meanwhile, this man is winging it.
Lovely.
There was no winging it. Randall has many years work experience building boats professionally. He takes his work and skill very seriously.
What excellent craftsmanship! I could tell that it also was a labor of love with a mission in mind.
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Bravo c est du beau travail .
Rien à dire .en plus ça fait super classe sur ton voilier.
Thank you so much for watching and for reaching out to us! We are happy with how the swim platform turned out.
wow, Real Nice work! Well documented and edited - and a real nice shop, wow!
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Nice job!
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Nice addition to the boat!
Thank you!
Craftsmanship work!
Thanks!
I’d love to do this to our Bristol 40
Would love that on my 23' Pearson, no easy way to get in or out of water.
Very cool mod. I’ve built a couple sea kayaks, so I understand some of the steps and skills you used. Beautiful workmanship. Bravo Sir!
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Great glass work.beautiful job.
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Very well done, looks amazing
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Thanks for all the information and details. Could have gotten the same information watching someone in China do it.
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Awesome craftsmanship!👍
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Had to search so hard to find this video again ! 😉
Great job...
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@@SailingTurtle planned to do partially the same, but gonna use outboard motor after all, to free up a huge amount of space in the bilge, so not possible probably! 👍
Understandable. Good luck with your boat projects and happy sailing!
Excellent videos indeed. . . Your a very skilled craftsman.
Thank you so much!
Wow that thing turned out awesome dude!
Thanks!
Love the swim step 👍🏼
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Talented sailor for sure Kudos!
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xcellent work with the epoxy and fiberglass!
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Very nice super detailed and the end results looks beautiful and extremely functional, i’ve been looking to do this on my boat for a long time your videos going to help a lot. Fair winds and following seas brother
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Brilliant! super job!
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I like it! Been thinking of something like this. Wow finally see someone make a video! Same plan . Move boat to a Texas Lake and get experience. One more Wisconsin winter! Nice channel!
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It’s perfect 😍
Beautiful work! Fiberglass is an art and you have the touch!
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Fantastic job.
Nice job
Cool man! 😮👌
I want this on my dufour 1800.
Nice job!
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Great job ,you got skills
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Hi guys,
Jumping off a boat under sail is very dangerous even for exellent swimmers and has cost several lives! If for any reason the person in the water fails in grabbing the trailing rope, the remaining crew (often just a single person) quickly looses visual contact to the victim even in a modest sea state as he/she is shifting attention to maneuvering the boat. Picture the rest yourself.
Cheers
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I’ve watched all ya vids no way that was that easy and problem free lol
I have had a lot of experience working on projects like this one, so I was very comfortable do it. I don't recall having any issues while building the swim platform at all... It was finished before we opened the large umbrella inside the house (Ep. 16)...that's really when our bad luck started LOL! Thanks for watching ALL our videos!
It's now an Ericson 30' , still cheap fun too...
Yeah it definitely added some length. We are so glad we added it to our boat. It made all the difference while in The Bahamas. Thanks for watching!
You do good work.
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impressive
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Nice video you will need to get lazyjacks organised for you main😄 I wish we had weather like that can’t wait for summer to come around.
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Well done
Thank you!!
Your welcome,I have a Seaward 25 and sail out of Fort Pierce and Sebastian,maybe see you out there
Sweet! Happy sailing!
nice job!
Thank you!
Well done. Congrat..I made one long time ago.
Thank you! It really did make all the difference having the swim platform. We are very happy with how it turned out. Thanks for watching and for commenting!
Awesome job.....ive worked a lot with fiberglass and epoxy, I always use disposable gloves.
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And respirator when sanding fiberglass and epoxy.. That's my job and use them almost every day. watch out ur lungs..
Great addition to the transon! I really enjoy ur videos, that´s great sailing life.
I just have one question about the mufler´s out let, those three thru-holes that you've covered with the platform, I think they are the deck´s bailey and the engine´s coolingwater outlet? If so I would make shure to always watch the flow and get to know the engine´s getting the propper cooling from the seawater.
That is a great question! That is definitely something to be aware of while running the engine. If you look back to the video at about 11:55 you will see a hose on top of the swim platform. That is the Coolant bypass outlet & hose that allows us to see water flowing while the engine is running. You can also see it in some of our other videos as well.
One day while in The Bahamas we noticed the engine didn't sound right soon after starting it. We were able to see that water was not flowing properly through the water coolant outlet & hose and knew that we needed to quickly anchor so we could assess the situation. We found the problem and were able to fix it. You can check that video out here: ua-cam.com/video/3ckDEAK7aVM/v-deo.html
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That is super kool
Thanks!
Nice
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Very nice work !! You should get a little bit more speed as well because you increased your waterline :) Love your videos !!!!!!
nice
Impressive!
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Sailing Turtle 26 congratulations on 1000 subs ,and many more to come!
Thank you! It’s been a long time coming
Hey, what episode do you show how to get weather maps from recordings on Noah?
I'd like to know what brand of blade you are using on that multitool. Mine would be soo much slower and probably be ready for the trash after that cut.
Really nice piece of engineering and boatbuilding. Could it also be made to work with self steering gear?
We contemplated that same question during our design build phase, and decided that there was not enough space for a wind-vane with such a small sugar scoop. I've seen it done on larger boats where there's room for an off center wind-vane installation that still gives space to make the swim platform useable, but that was not practical for us. Instead we chose to carry a back up autopilot. Thank you so much for leaving us a question and for watching our videos!
More impressed each view.
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Almost thought it was going to be 😑 still nice build 🌬️💨⛵🙏🏻
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I see you used a template for the matte, what did you use for the base of sugar scoop that you put matte on? I have a Bayfield 25 and I want to make one.
Thanks for watching and for leaving us a comment... In order to get the fitment to the transom perfect it was necessary to do the initial lay-up directly on the transom. The mold was built in place out of 2x4's and a 1/4" ciramica (dry erase) board was used for a mold surface. The transom was waxed four times just in case, and then covered with vinyl tape for a release agent.
Each stick of the frame was carefully placed to continue the exact angle directly aft off of the hull lines in front of it to try to naturally continue the lines of the hull. This method worked very well and was a bit more accurate than simply holding up a floppy piece of sheet metal for a mold. The initial glass was laid in five single sheets of (woven) fiberglass-cloth that rolled up seamlessly onto the attachment flange and the transom, and around the plastic pipes in place to start forming the drain passages. I thought it was important that the flange was molded continuously in one layup and not simply glued on to the rest of the platform. Next the foam-core was laid on with thickened epoxy while still in the mold and finally five more continuous layers of fiberglass encapsulated the foam and again wrapped up onto the flange to build stiffness and thickness. Then the whole piece was removed and the drain passages were finished, and the deck was formed separately again with five layers of glass on both sides. The deck was then set in place with thickened epoxy and another continuous sheet of glass was wrapped over the entire top of the deck and sides, and bolting flange, and also wrapping down around the forward and trailing edge to bond everything together. ...Hope this information can be helpful to you. Hope your project works out! Thanks for watching our videos!
Hello this is fantastic and just what i am looking to build for my boat at the end of this season, i have some quick questions.... 1st, What is the white board made of you use to form the first scoop mold?
2nd, What is the grey board you use to make the fibreglass rigid inside the lamination?
3rd, Did you laminate the same board on the stern connecting plate which the bolts go through.
Sorry if these sound dorky and they have simple answers i am just starting out and Still 'Learning'
Great vid. New subscriber gained.
Hey thank you so much for watching our videos and for taking the time to reach out to us! We love being able to connect with our viewers. These are all great questions and we're always happy to help. 1. It is a white dry-erase board. You can probably find it at Home Depot. 2. The grey board is a core material specifically for boat building called Airex foam. It's pricy, but worth it. (There are off-brands as well) 3. No the flange that through bolted the transom was solid fiberglass for strength. Let us know if you have any other questions. We try to read all of our comments when we can and have tried to respond to as many as we are able. Thanks again for watching!
Just coming across this. Any changes you would make 4 years out?
Thanks for watching and for reaching out to us. The swim platform was absolutely perfect! Looking back we wouldn't change anything about it.
The platform is sweet, but what if you need to use an outboard motor? Or want to add self steering gear, which ALL bluewater sailboats should have, IMHO. In fact, I am working on a design for a small windvane/ servo arm unit for my little Sparrow 16! I am trying to make it easily removable, hung over the transom and fastened with just a few bolts, and made mostly from water jet cut (or maybe even scroll saw cut) G10 fiberglass sheeting and carbon fiber tubes (both actually quite affordable), with only bearings, fasteners, hinges, and a couple of rods made of stainless steel or monel. I have never understood the material choices some people make for DIY projects.
Sounds interesting. Do you have a build thread or videos of your project posted anywhere?
I count 30 attachment points...very nice work young man!! Can you tell me how you attached it? Of those 30 points, the highest 7 on each side are through holes where you fasten a bolt through those 14 holes into probably nut inserts that you epoxied into the transom. The remaining 16 could be the same as the first 14 because you have access through the water tight access hatch. Is that how you did it?
Did you pitch the surface downwards so it drains properly?
What are the pros and cons of having that on your boat? Any long term observations?
Can you notice any difference in boat handling? I'm guessing not because it's mostly out of the water. But on a tack while you're heeling over I'm thinking it's iny the water and you might add to the waterline? Also when on a broad reach or going straight down hill, you're going to add buoyancy AND change things in a following sea state condition when you have big seas. What do you think?
I bet that every Ericsson owner with a similar original style transom wants one of your scoops, and every 26 owner who sees yours is trying to figure out the size of the bolts you used to hold that puppy on there! (just kidding..I doubt highly anyone would steal your sugar scoop!)
But seriously...who just makes a sugar scoop for their sailboat? And..who just makes a sugar scoop for their sailboat...and nails it the first time, no, who just fucking nails it the first time!?!? You do! And not many others would be able to do that. I'm good, but mine wouldn't have turned out that good the first time! You're the man! I bow to you, your creativity, your no fear, your skills, and your giving it to the world via a UA-cam video. Thank you! And no..I'm not drunk! I don't drink.
Thank you again for your comments! It's been a joy for us to connect with you! Those highest 7 attachment bolts on each side on the sugar scoop are completely through bolted with nuts and washers on the inside of the transom. The lower bolt holes that attach to the swim-step, inside of the hollow storage cavity, where actually pretty tricky. There was very limited access to some areas of the storage space, because of the cockpit drain and engine exhaust port tubes that ran through the inside of the sugar scoop. My solution was to bed pre-tapped aluminum flat bar inside the sugar scoop to accept bolts coming out from the transom of Turtle. It was quite a trick to get them all to line up perfectly with the holes that had to be predrilled in the transom, but in the end I lucked out and everything lined up perfectly! The sugar scoop was further held in place by a marine sealant. In retrospect my attachment system was probably overkill and I could have probably used 1/2 of the number of bolts. If I were to do it again, I would seriously contemplate, gluing it on with 3m4200 and forego the bolts all together.
The deck surface of the sugar scoop is actually perfectly level. I was terrified if I made it slope aft, it would be a slipping hazard. It didn't collect much water if any unless we were heeled, in which case it easily accumulated a decent amount of water. To remedy this slight nuisance, I simply drilled a small limber-hole in each corner.
I was hopeful that the sugar scoop might also extend our waterline, but in reality on the rare occasion the sugar scoop was even in the water, it just never displaced enough volume to make a difference. I sure thought it looked nice though and I can't imagine our trip to The Bahamas without it. Because the sugar scoop was painted and not covered in gelcoat, we had to keep an eye on scratches and abrasion in order to prevent the epoxy from degrading from strong UV-rays. The best pro was that it made the ultimate place to pee off the back of the boat while underway. You could loop one arm through the stern pulpit and brace one foot on one side of the sugar scoop while heeled, then pee off the back while still being safely clipped into the cockpit. It was true heaven! Hahahaha!
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How did you waterproof the bolt holes?
I used butyl tape on the bolt holes. Thanks for watching our videos!! =) We really appreciate it!!
Hi guy! I'm new in your channel. Are you from England? Please, let me know about a good Boatbuilding course. Could you suggest one for me? Thank you!
Welcome to our channel! We are so glad that you have been enjoying our videos so far. We post a new video every week and still have a lot more to share! We are from the U.S. Randall grew up working on and building boats with his dad, so he has many years of experience, but never went to school to learn. We don't know of any boatbuilding courses, sorry, but maybe other viewers reading your comment might know of something that will be helpful to you. Thanks again for watching our videos and for leaving us a comment. We love connecting with our viewers and appreciate you being part of our journey!
Did the dodger come with the boat or did you make?
It came with the boat when we bought it. Thanks for watching!
Ahhh an episode for the real pirates ( who love the smell of epoxy )
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would polyester be strong enough, epoxy is so much more expensive...
First off as a disclaimer of sorts I dislike the look of sugar scoops. I am unable to find any fault in your fiberglass work as it is impeccable. I however do not agree with drilling 30 holes in the hull to mount the sugar scoop. Also I wouldn't use butyl tape in a below-the-waterline application. Use 3M 4200 or something made for below waterline. Butyl tape is an amazing product and I always have a couple rolls on my sailboat. It however does not have any rating at all for underwater (or possibly underwater) use.
Haha Our lifeline stanchions are often under waterline more than the sugar scoop ever was during high seas. The sugar scoop is well above waterline and never leaked a single solitary drop of saltwater from astern. I assure you there is no problem using butyl tape in this manner. If there were, my lifeline stanchions (which are also sealed with butyl tape) would present an even greater problem. My main reason for choosing butyl tape was, ease of removal. In the event of damage to the swim platform I want to be able to easily remove it. While 4200 is a fantastic product that I use exclusively for below waterline applications, it would render the swim-step completely unremovable and permanent. As for the holes in the transom, I am not worried about adding holes to my hull. There are already a dozen or more holes bellow waterline, none of which have any leaking problems. Actually there is not a single leak on our boat, top or bottom. We understand that everyone will have their own opinion on what looks good and what doesn't. That's totally fine! We appreciate you leaving us a comment and letting us know that you liked the fiberglass work. Thanks for watching our videos and fair winds!
@@SailingTurtle - thanks for your well thought out reply as I now understand your position better. I never considered having to remove the sugar scoop. If we were all the same this would be a very boring world. It is good to have differing opinions as it makes life a lot more interesting. I already know how this journey ended, but I am still watching all the videos anyway. I'm looking forward to see what the two of you come up with next.
Exactly! Haha We have tried explaining the exact same thing to people in the past about various sailing topics. Just because we did something a certain way doesn't mean that is the only way to do it. A lot of the time, people are going to use what they have available to them, which isn't going to be the same for everyone. It's good to have your own opinion, just as it's good for the other person to have theirs. We're glad you get it! LOL We are happy to hear that you are still watching our videos. We still have more to share and are looking forward to seeing what fun adventures will come next. Thanks again!
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I wonder what someone would pay you have you build and install one on their boat? You could almost make a business installing sugar scoops on sailboats I bet. Did you keep track of your hours on that project? It's a brilliant design being removable...and having storage. Just a wag, I think you could get $2500 for that size and design. More for larger ones. I wonder how you could get your design approved by the insurance industry and or Coast Guard?
We are so glad we took the time to add the sugar scoop on Turtle, it seriously made all the difference! I have had several offers from viewers to hire me to build a sugar scoop for their boat, the trouble is, the travel distances which unfortunately make it prohibitive. As for the hours it took to build, it probably took too many LOL! No, it really didn't take that long to build, but a lot of time was used waiting for epoxy cure and paint to dry. Thanks for watching our videos! We are so glad to hear that you have enjoyed seeing the things we have done to our boat.
I don’t know I think a swim platform would have been nice
We loved having our swim platform on Turtle. It made a world of difference while in The Bahamas! Thanks for watching!!
Nice work. Wear a mask man geez!
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