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I wouldn't concern about the Paradox beasts messing up the last theory. They could be logical paradoxes - which are things that shouldn't be possible. If anything the time machine probably operates on Professor Sada's views on the Ancient Past, meaning that whatever the Past and - by extention, the future Pokemon - are supposed to be are just imagined Pokemon, like the Scarlet/Violet book describes. Like, out of all the Ancient Pokemon, why aren't there ancient Tyrantrums or Kabutopses? They'd feel right at home in the ancient past, right??? Therefore, the Paradox Pokemon are moreso "logical Paradoxes" - something that was never meant to be or could never be in general. They are merely the thoughts that we bring to existance. The Paradox Pokemon were brought upon by the mind of the Professor, with an Ancient past motif in mind. So, long story short - the Paradox mons SHOULDN'T EXIST, but they were imagined and willed into existance by the mind of a brilliant professor. Therefore, the theory about the Legendary Beasts being the original trio of Eeveelutions is still factually legit in my eyes. Don't let Professor Sada's work mess with you.
I’d like to add for theory 9, that it’s stated Mega Aerodactyl is stated to be closer to the actual prehistoric Aerodactyls, further proving that reviving from fossils is not a perfect replica, and that the actual prehistoric kabutos could be different
Or it could be like Kleavor and Scizor, where scyther originally evolved into a kleavor until the world changed around it, forcing its evolution to be lost, and scizor took its place. Maybe that’s why ONLY KABUTO lived 300 million years ago, because back then, it evolved into something else… a bug type that was lost to time
This is actually something I have fun with in my hypothetical pokemon fan game. It includes new forms for the fossils, who were revived with a new method that filters out the rock contaminants and leave them without the rock type. Aurorus is an Ice/Electric type, for example!
The ditto theory is kinda funny. Here you are trying to make what potentially could be the strongest pokemon at the time and you get this little derpy blob that occasionally transforms into whatever its looking at. Then they mass released it into the wild and just assumed/didnt care it wouldn't be a invasive species. Love it
Considering Ditto's blob-like form and they were attempting to clone a psychic cat, it could be that their original containment wasn't designed to hold something that can flow into creaks and cracks and escape.
I mean these scientists were trying to secretly create a Pokemon super weapon so I don’t think they had much consideration for the ethics of everything. So they probably wouldn’t care about invasive species
You forgot to mention another detail why people believe the Gengar and Clefable theory... at the time both couldn't hit each other with their STABs... hinting that you can't hurt your shadow, and your shadow can't hurt you.
You have NO IDEA how many memories this dug up from my time watching UA-cam in the 2010s. True kids remember watching videos from people like Jwittz, Aura Guardian, and Truegreen7, all covering these exact theories Thanks for the memory throwback, Mikey! Back to those old videos I go 😅😅😅
Me too. I remember watching a German Poketuber years ago, talking about many of these theories. For example, he thinks the Cubone-Kangaskhan-theory is legit :D
IKR! You don't have to be a 90s kid to remember all of the "mew under the truck" theories! I was born in 04 but I have a ton of nostalgia for that theory cuz all the 90s kid poketubers in the 2010s were talking about it!
I'd love to hear you go over the Graveler and Machoke trade evolution theory. The theory states that they were originally intended to only evolve when traded with each other. This is evidenced by the fact that Machoke has a lizard like face and Graveler has four arms but when they evolve Golem suddenly has two arms and a lizard like face and Machamp suddenly has four arms. This concept of traits being exchanged in an exclusive trade evolution would later be done in Gen 5 with Shelmet, who when traded with Karablast loses it's armor and becomes Accelgor meanwhile Karablast gains armor and becomes Escavelier.
Its an interesting theory but in Shemet's and Karrablast's case the only thing thats really happening is Karrablast taking the shell and now living inside it and Shelmet having to adapt to life with its squishy body not being protected by a shell, Graveler and Machoke have a lot more stuff going on, also we've seen Graveler evolve into a Golem without being traded before, it happened to Yellow's Graveler in the Pokemon Adventures Manga without a Machoke being present, same thing with Blue's Machoke, only a trade is necessary, it doesn't matter what pokemon its with
@salvatoredantonio2413 I mean of course currently they just need to be traded period. I'm theorizing preproduction stuff, I think they originally planned to have them be mandatory to trade with each other to evolve but then changed their minds come tiem for the full release. What happened later and in the manga are pretty much irrelevant because that all after they would have changed their minds
I think Graveler's second set of arms are the Golem arms while the Geodude arms slowly wither away. Remember, a lot of Gen 1 Pokemon were created out of order too
The thing about the Paradox Beasts is that Terapagos's power is confirmed to be pulling Pokemon from alternate timelines, so the simplest answer is that they're not from the main series timeline. My favorite theory in general, though, is the deciphering of the inscriptions in Legends Arceus. The idea is that for those carvings of Pokemon you find scattered across the map, you can decipher them by replacing each drawing with the concept that the Pokemon represents.
Where was the Terapagos thing confirmed? It seems weird to create this plotline suddenly with barely any explanation. The paradox forms seem to not make sense though, like with the legendary paradoxes since they were supposedly created much later. Maybe they'll explore this in future gens
It was confirmed, I believe, with the indigo disk post credit scene when you take terapagos to the crystal pool in kitakami. If you haven't seen it yet, I won't spoil it, but the gist is that you are talking to an individual from a different timeline than your own, which was brought about by terapagos. It explains why the paradox pokemon could exist for Heath to have seen for him to write a book that inspired the game professors to build their time machine.
Also, didn’t Ho-Oh base their revival forms off other Pokemon? Highly likely that the 3 Paradox ‘mons, if not from an alternate timeline, were inspiration for the revival of the three Eeveelutions
You never explained the reason why the truck was there in the first place. It was basically a left over sprite from a beta map. In the beta map, the area where the truck was had buildings and no dock. But when they changed the entire town, the truck was left behind in the same place, which happened to be on the new town dock.
@@diggity4912 Hahaha, it took me DECADES to learn this. The truck was the biggest mystery of my LIFE, and I managed to solve it after decades f research.
It's worth mentioning that in the beta of Red/Green there exists a sprite of an evolved form for Marowak with it holding a child Cubone in its arms. Kangaskhan had already been designed by that point so Game Freak must have made the decision to cut Marowak's evolved form given it's resemblance to Kangaskhan. So while Cubone and Kangaskhan are canonically unrelated, there's definitely a shared history between the two.
the Marowak Evolution was cut both because of the similarity to Kangaskhan but also because there was a rule in Gen 1 development that the only 3 stage evolutionary lines were to be Starters. while pidgey, caterpie, and weedle were allowed to bypass that, anyone else had to be a stone or trade evolution. it would have been better if they kept the Marowak evolution however.
@@F14thunderhawk That is interesting. Any reason for the exceptions? I also have to ask, if this is the case then why is Dragonite also an exception? Also, why not just make Marowak evolve through trade?
Fun fact: There is a glitch-Pokemon in gen 1 that was a Cubone that evolved into a Kangaskhan. So they might have had them be part of the same line, but decided against it likely due to the Tower fight (I mean they would need a Kangaskhan without a kid) so they split the lines apart and made Marowak as Cubone's evo
Not only can Meowth talk, proving that through immense practice and effort can a Pokémon learn human speech, but Zoroarks dex entries do mention that it can speak like a human when transformed as one. On top of that, psychic Pokémon of sufficient power in general seem to be able to speak telepathically and it wouldn’t be a huge leap for them to just learn human speech. You might say that Zoroark isn’t psychic, but it does learn a helluva lot of psychic moves and has more than sufficient intelligence and abilities. And as evident by just how typings work, Dark type is essentially Psychic in many ways but “evil” or “dirty” (it’s also a dirty form of Fighting type lol).
Dark is mostly representative of "evil" as a whole (it's name in Japanese is literally "evil type") which is why there's a good deal more physical dark moves than psychic moves, but I see what you're getting at. The two biggest factors in Pokemon talking from what I can gather are _intelligence_ and _willingness to put in the effort._ That being the case, it's so easy to tell in general which Pokemon would/wouldn't learn to talk which is hilarious. As you pointed out psychic types and random especially crafty ones definitely do/can. On the opposite end I could never imagine Snorlax, Slowbro, Slaking, or any fish Pokemon talking due to lack of intelligence and/or motivation
@@rainbow_vaderit's funny you mention Slowbro only because we see it's alternate evolution Slowking being able to learn speech but that's just because of the venom being injected into it's brain. It would immediately forget how to speak though if the Shellder is knocked off.
I have another theory related)g to mikey’s counteragruement. He said that zoroark had a special bond with N and since they “disguise” as other life forms ( which means they COPY APPEARANCES) it’s is possible that The original N ( the human one , zoroarks friend) Somehow died and he took his place in the human world
I'm also pretty sure that in the Zoroark movie, the Zorua can speak. Even when it's not transformed as a person. I don't remember the movie too well but I feel like I remember it being able to speak
Mikey, the whole “gengar is clefairys shadow” has more background then just “They look similar” originally there was talk about either poliwhirl, clefairy, or pikachu being the mascot, and it is theorized that gengar was supposed to be and evil counterpart of gengar
13:05 If you see the concept art of Pokemon Red and Green you can noticed that the conceptual art of Caterpie, Metapod and Butterfree were made in a single sitting, side by side on the same sheet, the entire evolutionary line was designed at the same time, while Venonat and Venomoth were designs that were made much later
sour5ce? never seen this and as an artist, the venomoth/butterfree thing always seems prettyy solid. My thoughts was always that they swapped the designs for a real reason early on, but after the design phase.
@@ReverieMotionCanned I'm an Arthropod nerd and the theory dosent make sense because it's impossible for a butterfly to not emerge from a cocoon that had a caterpillar inside
Another piece of evidence to support the Genesect one is that while it's dex does say it's an altered form of an ancient bug Pokemon, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bug type. It could be similar to the situation with dragon types where not all dragon Pokemon are dragon type. Charizard is a dragon, but is not dragon type. It's very possible that Kabutops is/was a bug in terms of it's classification/anatomy, but simply isn't/wasn't a bug type Pokemon.
This is the closest I’ve come to actually believing that theory. I still don’t - it’s hard to explain away them having completely different body types - but this piece of evidence is the best I’ve seen so far.
Another reason why people thought Gengar is Clefable's shadow is because "Gengar" comes from the word Doppelganger, which is someone who looks identical to you
I feel like a better version of the theory is that the first Gengar started as Clefable's shadow gaining sentience. From there it became its own thing, even reproducing. The fact that their original types and even their (later in Clefable's case) secondary typings are inverted: Normal vs Ghost, Fairy vs Poison. This is also a better/updated explanation behind the Cubone-Kangaskhan theory: the first Cubone arose as an orphaned Kangaskhan cub. That progenitor Cubone, like Gengar, learned to thrive on its own and, in Cubone's case, eventually evolve and create a divergent species. Modern Cubone aren't all tied to their mother's dying, but that is how they started and now exist.
@@electronicdreams.9870 It's a chicken and egg situation. In this case, the first Gengar spawned from a shadow gained sentience, then became its own divergent species that could live (as much as a Ghost can) and breed. Just look at breeding mechanics: it's not like Pokemon can only breed with each other to spawn the lowest evolution stage.
@@electronicdreams.9870 There is a simple explanation in this case: originally, Gastly, Haunter and Gengar wasn't supposed to be an evolution line. They are nothing alike! But at some point in developement someone decided they wanted a Ghost evolution line and it became like this. To that effect we have the Dragonite evolution line: Dratini and Dragonair seems like a logical evolution, then comes Dragonite, who isn't nothing alike the other 2!
20:45 My uncle just told me about a similar theory! Except, instead of the pokemon being a baby Kangaskhan, it's actually a Charmander instead. It's interesting to think about, since I've never heard the Charmander take on this popular theory!
My conspiracy theory: Gamefreak added the Pokédex entries for Mega Evolutions in Gen 7 which said that Pokémon were in pain when they Mega Evolved... In order to make people feel less attached to Mega-Evolution, so they'd be less upset when Gamefreak removed them in Gen 8.
I fully believe that’s what it is, cause that’s only in Sun and Moon. In X/Y, the transformations are harmless. They become painful in Sun and Moon, but then they changed back to being harmless when Let’s Go came out. If they’re harmless when Z-A comes out, that’ll be a confirmation.
For #10, the info you showed just before mentioning that "Zoroark's inability to speak could ruin it", it literally mentions that while it's in the form of a human, it's capable of human speech.
It’s interesting how early Pokémon media had the idea that the Pokémon and real world were kinda the same world before gradually retconning it all away. Heck, Kanto is named and based on the area of the same name in Japan. No other region has the same name as the area it’s based on.
Kitakami kind of does. There are multiple things named Kitakami in that area in the real world. Though it's also worth noting that no region name is ever given. That name is only used for a "land".
I miss when Pokémon still had ties to real-world places and things. I know it's kinda silly and paradoxical, but I feel like it made the series and the setting more whimsical and mysterious.
@@myotisart7729yeah but what Pokemon makes more sense to learn human language? A Pokémon that mimics other things including humans and hides among them for who knows how long. Or a cat with a coin on its head.
Idc if the anime isn't cannon or not In an episode of pokemon clack and white Adventures and beyond, during their trip to Kanto Ash, Cilan, and Iris go to a deserted island aka illusion island to check out the giant pokemon unknowingly created by Zoroark Axew got hit with stun spore by a run in with a fleeing Foongus and was rushed to the Islands pokemon center "Nurse Joy" and "Audino" greeted ash and the others one at a time "Nurse Joy" was capable of speech and later turned out to be Zoroark in disguise And the pokedex shown at 19:08 showed Zoroark is capable of human speech when transformed taking on a human Disguise thus making the theory cannon and true :)
0:01 seeing Mikey‘s bearded, angry, yelling face on a child’s body is so funny to me. He looks so pissed at the mere suggestion that Pikachu is his dad.
Kabutops not being a bug type doesn’t debunk the Genesect theory, as Pokémon Scarlet has already proven that prehistoric Pokémon were once a different typing than their ancestors are today!
@@salvatoredantonio2413 Yeah I get that point, but kabutops doesn’t even share a similar body to genesect so any connection between the two is a stretch
@@zenvultra totally agree with that, Genesect clearly has an abdomen and thorax and Kabutops doesn't so l just cant see any similarities besides the fact theyre both bipedal
The SS Anne truck thing is even more annoying when you think about the abandoned keys in the Game Corner. "Someone's keys! They'll be back." But they never are, not even after getting the certificate for completing the Pokedex. It seemed like the perfect setup. Except I don't know how it would have played out. "Congratulations on your achievement, young man. Say, want the keys to my truck? I parked it on an island on top of a Mew after a weird night. Want to go move it?"
@@Toast3780-1actually, I came in comments to see because I could swear that I too got a mew from the truck. I remember I was able to get a Pokémon with surf through trade just so I could do this.
Interesting note about Surge’s nationality: The nickname of “The Lightning American” was used as recently as the Pokemon World Tournament in Black and White 2, meaning that America is a location that canonically exists in the Unova games. This could mean that Unova is a location or even a state within America, or that America in the Pokemon world refers to a continent rather than a country, but realistically they probably just didn’t think about it that hard.
I hope in the future, we get lieutenant surge's background expanded on, maybe in a Texas based pokemon region, the devs could do so much cool stuff with the space programs in texas and stuff. If you ask me, Lieutenant Surge is definitely from Texas
Also pokemon games are very clearly take place on some alternate Earth - the regions are named different, sure, but the topography matches pretty much 1 to 1. So its very much possible there is, in fact, America, just maybe not in the same state as America of our Earth, for example it could be a kingdom, or maybe pokeworld America was never conquered and retained its native culture, reaching modern times naturally. There are lots of possibilities Surge can be called american without necessarily hailing from the USA.
@@atazgd Only US citizens call it america.... The rest of the world know that america is a continent... Im not slow, i just talk properly... not like you american guy...
*conspiracy theorist voice* "What if his "true" answer is just the backdrop, while the "joke" answer is the theme of the story!" *normal voice* "...Just saying...It could work..."
@@Kamen-Rider-Nexus I mean that's how novel-writing is SUPPOSED to work. You have the superficial concept (dinosaurs competing in the Olympics) and the underlying themes (the ineffability of hope etc. etc.) "Dinosaurs in the Olympics" isn't a story. It's a setting. An author that goes that hard about "my book is about these pompous-ass things" is typically hella pretentious and boring to read. It's the READERS who need to go in and DERIVE the lofty subjects from the existing material. The author may have intended for there to be a heavy theme of hope or perseverance or the unpredictability of entropy in a living universe or whatever, but the vessel for conveying that is going to be dinosaurs in the Olympics (or whatever fun thing they want to tell a story about.)
I have a theory: kabutops is a scither ancestor. Kabutops has similar arms, may be a bug in the past and land animals came from the water, so kabutops could transform into scither with enough time. Please make a video on comments theories
1:49 This applies to May too (not Brendan though). In Emerald when she’s battled in the optional Rustboro City battle, she uses a Torkoal if you picked Torchic, and she never uses it again
@@lorien_braga they have one battle were they use early pokemons caught in a "whoever captures more win" bet but dunk part of them. Then again, this case the pokemons were specifically caught to see whoever haves more dex entries so it's closer to the other 30 something pokemons (theorically) in Blue's Box than Raticate.
Leaked beta sprites indicate that the Cubone line may have contained Kangaskhan at one point but they were later separated. This would also explain why Giovanni would have Kanga on his team, since it would have originally been a ground type.
Actually, leaked beta sprites show that Marowak used to have an evolution (that existed completely separate from Kangaskhan) and said evolution's back sprite looks as if it's holding a baby Cubone over its shoulder.
I remember reading this is why if you force a Missingno to evolve it evolves into Kangaskhan. This "Missing Number" was initially programed for kangaskhan to be an evolution and it was said to be Marowak.
7:45 Counter-theory for you on why Ash never ages. Remember in the first movie where he gets caught in an attack between Mew and Mewtwo and is turned to stone before the tears of the Pokémon bring him back? What if that changed his physiology making it impossible for his body to actually grow older? And to prevent him or others from noticing this fact, Mew and Mewtwo combined their powers to keep everyone else the same physical age as well.
Im pretty sure the actual reason ash never ages is because the entire anime is supposed to be based during summer vacation im pretty sure and the reason he doesn’t, like, die to flamethrower is because it’s an anime lol.
I’m the first series it’s literally stated he has nearly a year to get to Indigo Plateua. He takes a summer break to train or something after getting his 7th or 8th badge. So no, the entire anime is not during summer
Another piece of evidence that Cubone’s mother was at least originally intended to be Kangaskhan is that there’s a glitch in Red and Blue where MissingNo can evolve into Kangaskhan if you haven’t registered Marowak, meaning MissingNo might be the leftover evolution data
A more canon explanation is multiverse theory, and the versions of the pokemon world that are our world, (but with pokemon and better tech) do exist, and just... aren't relevant anymore. Because boring irl worlds aren't as marketable, basically.
I remember watching a video where someone said that they believe that instead of it being a vaporeon, jolteon and flareon that passed in the tower, it was instead three training eevees that passed. So when ho-oh revived them the power ho-oh gave them caused the eevees to evolve into raiku, entei and suicune. I always liked that theory much better and thought it made just a bit more sense than it being the eeveelutions and i thought it made the whole scenerio and the beasts feel much rarer and cooler because it really plays on eevee's evolution gimmick
I love how most of these are from Kanto, since this was pre-high speed internet for a lot of people, especially children in the 90s so these theories formed likely in school and the playground that eventually found their way online.
also, that was the first Gen of Pokémon. They had no idea they were setting the template for a quarter-century (and counting!) of media pored over by millions all over the world. They were just creating and/or localizing some Japanese kids’ game so they could afford their denim jackets and AOL subscriptions
Courage the Cowardly Dog legit has Courage puppeting his dead (human) parents beyond the first season of the show, to pretend they are still there with him. Writers would ABSOLUTELY make a kid's show that dark.
The kirby anime literally had everywhere BUT popstar be ruled by Nightmare Wizard and all but Meta Knight and the legendary knights that arrive at thr end the good guys tubro died fighting Nightmare Wizard forces. Some people would totally do that. Also the Batman Brave thr Bold decided to adapt Emperor Joker... of all things.
I think I understand, lore-wise, how it could happen. The beasts started out as the paradox forms, then grew out of their feral states and were the eeveelutions, and then ho-oh revived them, and they took on appearances like their ancestors.
So, about that Cubone. The dex says it wears its' mother's skull. However this doesn't necessarily mean it's the skull inside its' mother's head. Marowak are the bone keeper pokemon. It's entirely possible that the dex entry was trying to say something along the lines of "the skull it wears was given to it by its mother". Marowak having a collection of bones that it gives to its children to help arm and protect them would make far more sense for a species than every single cubone killing its mother only to tear out and wear its skull then feel bad about it. Especially since, as shown in the clip, cubone's mother was a marowak and still alive while cubone was already wearing its skull. Nevermind that you can breed marowaks in game without killing the mother.
My thought when I read this was that marowak shed their outer skulls to give cubone, then they regrow the skull and they can shed it again for as many babies as they can have :)
"There's no way for this kids' show for them to write in such a dark explanation of things." Takeshi Shudo writing a literal apocalyptic uprising plot leading to the extinction of humanity spearheaded by Ash's Pikachu that was rejected by the show runners halfway through the series: "Am I a joke to you?"
He was on drugs at that point, hence why he came up with such a wild idea, and you admitted yourself that the rest of the production team disallowed it to happen.
@@Evdafawth My point still stands, though. The fact that we almost got a super dark and violent uprising story out of a kid's show is still surprising, no matter where it came from or how close it came to be. I'm not arguing about the overall point here - I also think the coma theory is a load of Tauros crap - but there's a lot of dark stuff you'll find in these "kid's shows" if you dig a little deeper
I guess it's a moot point if it was rejected though... Although it being too dark is only half the reason it would be tonally off IMO. The other half is that it would make fans regret investing in the story, if none of it actually happened. And of course, an easy rebuttal to the Ash coma theory is just "What about the parts he wasn't there for?". Ash's coma dream keeps randomly switching to Team Rocket's perspective, yet he's still surprised whenever they turn up and never sees through their disguises?
5:16 I thought it was going to be a factor ad lmao because the food always looks delicious from Factor but that whole chef to you delivery thing is really cool and this was a great video 😂❤
For the first theory on this list. Matpat actually did a theory on his channel. His theory suggest that he caught a separate Raticate given the level at which Rattate evolves at and the level of his Raticate
i have a little theory for the last one. So there are now paradox legendary beast, the ancestors of the normal legendary beast. But i think that they arent genetical ancestors just pokemons who where in the same position as the legendary beasts. So Ho-oh chooses three pokemons like idk every 1000 years and make them beast (thats why they are dinosaurs). So when the he saw the eeveelutions in the fire he felt sorry for them so choose them as the beasts.
Lt. Surge's war theory was expanded from what I remember. Theory goes after the war which was fought with pokemon, most of the adult men died and the kids were being prepped to continue the war which is why the whole pokemon-gym-elite four- champion system was developed: it's a training system to prepare them for the war
22:23 That can easily be explained by that not being the first Cubone and Marowak. If the theory is true it would go as follows: Mother Kangaskan dies and baby Kangaskan takes the skull. The skull fuse with the baby Kangaskan creating the first Cuboon. Cuboon now evolves into Marowak, also the first of it's kind. Marowak then breeds and because of the genetic changes it births a Cuboon with the skull because that's a part of that Pokémon's species now. The Marowak from the Ghost Tower isn't the first of its kind to birth a Cuboon. That is why it's a Marowak and not a Kangaskan.
how does it breed? you would require two seperate Cubones to both be orphaned, both fuse with the skull of its mother, then both undergo the SAME genetic mutations to become two seperate but identical species, all to happen within each others lifetimes so that they could mate. if u try it logically, it just doesn't work. Being a seperate pokemon makes more sense
@@WaterKirinGamer I know, Poliwrath even returns during Mochi Madness. Do you suggest Bede and Hop released rest of their Pokémon by end of SwSh? Dubwool and Corviknight were boxed mid-game and returned.
That's not a problem, as he had and continues to have a Full Team, so those could easily be explained as being Boxed (which is further proven by Poliwrath temporarily returning to replace Politoed during Mochi Mayhem). The true problem is that even in The Teal Mask itself, he also uses a Sentret (1st Battle), Furret (2nd and 3rd Battle) and Cramorant (4th Battle), but never together nor filling out his team before settling with Shiftry and Probopass.
10:15 We kinda did get official confirmation. Kinda. You see, when the detective Pikachu movie was released, there were a couple theories thrown around. Like how the place was in Kanto, and how the Mewtwo was the Mewtwo from the games. In an interview they asked the people behind the movies and they said "We legally cannot confirm or deny any of those theories, that's something The Pokémon Company has to do. But we can say that we worked very closely with them, and not a single frame, not a single detail was without them giving their approval" "Okay, how about the line that claims Ditto is a failed experiment during the research on Mewtwo" "I can only repeat myself: We cannot confirm or deny anything. But every single detail in the movie was effectively decided on by TPC." Not exactly a confirmation, but as close as can be without outright saying yes.
@Muckowitch But they were brought there. Mew also used to be white, not pink, and it and Ditto only share the same height and weight because Shigeki Morimoto added Mew in at the last minute with the little remaining space they had left on the games after removing the debug mode. Yellow added Ditto to the Mansion to I assume give you something special to catch there because they removed Magmar.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Well, I disagree. You say Mew used to be white: Yes, but you can see a pink tint on it. And with the technological limitations I don't think that says much. If it was intentional, you know how buggy Gen 1 was. You say that the reason for Mews height and weight is because it was added last minute. Well, that still doesn't explain why it has Dittos weight and height, and not for example Pikachus. And your last point is literally a guess. And on top of that, none of your points have anything to do with the original comment.
10:07 this is my favorite Pokemon theory, outright. Not only does it make perfect sense, but I've added onto that with Grimer, Koffing, and Trubbish (this is probably somewhere else, but I hadn't seen it before), some of the escaped Ditto's cellular structure could've been stabilized by pollutants in their environment, Grimer are ditto that made it to the ocaen, causing the water and other materials to fuse with it, Koffing are evaporated dittos that reformed, and trubbish, fused with the trash bags they were in, and while, yes, trubbish can't be found in Kanto, I believe those same trash bags were sent other regions (Unova, Kalos, Alola, and Galar) to dispose of the evidence.
The Venomoth and Butterfree switch, while I don't believe was an error, it isn't completely out-of-the-question. After all, Blastoise was a completely separate Pokèmon from the Squirtle line before they probably realized how redundant the two big turtle Pokèmon are and scrapped Squirtle's original final evolution in favor of Blastoise. So, while unlikely, it isn't impossible that Venonat was meant to evolve into Butterfree before the devs decided for some reason to switch it with Venomoth
Also, apparently according to some sources, in Gen 2, there was shiny colouration mix up: The MOST iconic shiny Pokemon, by far, Gyarados' red coloured shiny form... It was apparently a mistake, someone gave the WRONG shiny colouration to Gyrados... So there is credence to this theory even in future games and thier production. (although, with the shiny form mix up... Gotta wonder what Pokemon was SUPPOSED to have its shiny form be red, and not Gyarados... We may never know.)
Honestly, I think that's exactly what happened. They have the same eyes, antenna, mouth, hands, and body color. It's not like Gengar/Clefable where it's "kinda similar", they're almost identical. There were several mons that got scrapped/rearranged, and I fully believe Butterfree's design was originally going to be Venomoth.
Here's another problem with the Genesect Kabutops theory: in the very same dex entry you showed it says that kabuto "hasn't changed in 300 million years" because unlike other fossil Pokémon they're still around to this day (just like the real world horseshoe crab), and if they haven't changed for 300 million years then they must have already been rock type all the way back then
It kinda makes sense, but if you remember that the original method to have a Kabuto was reviving it from the Fossil, so it will have the rock type. That means that yeah, Kabutops could be not Rock Type... And it could be another type of Kabutops before 300 million years, and in this theory, I like to put Scyther as the "Present Form of Kabutops".
The coma ash one gave me real nightmares as a kid cuz the concept of death and not being able to move or do anything really freaked me out, also very sad
For the last theory with the legendary beasts. I feel Like Ho-oh took inspiration from Walking Wake, Gouging Fire, and Raging Bolt when reviving Vaporeon, Flareon, and Jolteon, but the body mass of the three weren't enough to completely recreate them, so made Suicune, Entei, and Raikou instead
Except that Walking Wake, Gouging Fire and Raging Bolt don't exist in our timeline and come from an alternative timeline where they did exist. They're explicitly paradoxes, things that shouldn't exist but do. This is straight up told to us in the DLC.
@@pikapower5791 no, it's cuz that bs is a theory, and Pokemon fans are dumb enough to not know the difference between a theory and a headcanon, paradox Pokemon aren't from different timelines, it's explicitly confirmed that all attempts at timeline travels by the prof failed, and after getting the book from the player, they went for time travel and succeeded
One thing that also works for the Legendary Beasts-Eeveelutions Theory is that, they're both not intended to be one single animal, showing both dog-like and cat-like features. You can make the argument, the beasts are based off of wild cats and eeveelutions look way more canine-like, but Gamefreak themselves stated they're a mixture of both feline and canine.
@@VioletLunaChan Foxes are not classified as Canines. They are classified as Vulpines. Dogs and wolves are classified as Canines, cats are classified as Felines, and foxes are classified as Vulpine. Foxes are considered a real life "Convergent Evolution" in that it shares the same ancestor with Canine creatures, but took a slightly different evolutionary path while still maintaining traits from the ancestor in question. Google is very free and evolution is a hyperfixation of mine.
12:54 okay but kalos had a great war as well, which is the explaination for the ultimate weapon, and this would tie into the real world where france invaded america destroying the native american population
First of all, love this video. It's brought back a lot of memories from the playground where I remember discussing all of these rumors. For Rumor #4, I noticed you didn't bring up that the only other location Ditto found in yellow and the other Kanto games- Cerulean Cave where Mewtwo lives! This also added to the theory, as the they'd naturally feel at home by their genetic sibling, and there's a good chance some ditto hitched a ride on Mewtwo as it escaped (if the failed clone theory does indeed hold true, which I personally like)
10:45 I'd argue that even Clefable being a fairy type is like a foil to Gengar being part-poison. Even if I don't see like an actual connection existing, they have some overlap.
i'd be a lot more convinced if Clefable stayed part-normal type like Wigglytuff did, as a Normal-Fairy would be a much more perfect foil to Gengar's Ghost-Poison, or if Clefable got a Mega and Gigantamax form to match Gengar's. i think the two have enough cool lore on their own without having to force a connection tho. they're both definitely among my favourite Gen 1 Pokemon either way
I'm probably not the only person to say this, but mew absolutely can appear under the truck! Because gen 1 has arbitrary code execution, someone programmed a virus that spreads when you trade Pokemon with an infected game, and it also adds a Mew under the truck. Now, yes it's not official but I think it's far cooler that someone made a fully functional virus and used it to add mew under the truck.
A virus that creates pokemon A digital program that creates monsters So what you're telling me MEW IS A PORYGON (haha digimon joke with a swirve right at the end)
Hot damn, I still remember 23 years ago when we discussed how to get into the hidden cave behind the truck to get mew, my friends and I thought you need a machamp to move the truck, bc obviously other pokemons would be too weak :D Thanks for the trip down nostalgia lane.
OMG REFRENCE "PIKACHU IS YOUR DAD" is probably a reference to detective pikachu where the dad is turned into his partner pikachu in which the son goes on a huge journey to find where his dad whent after a car crash he was in with his Pikachu (i wont spoil any more)
17:00 my head-canon for why fossil Pokémon are all rock type, is just that the tough bodies of rock types are more likely to survive the aeons and therefore, of all the ancient Pokémon, the only ones whose intact fossils we find are the rock ones. I had that theory long before gen 8, but I think the Galarian Fossils actually strengthen that theory, since the only non rock-type fossils we have, *haven't* survived the years.
I feel like the fact that you can’t find Ditto in Legends: Arceus at all, is even more proof it’s a failed clone of Mew (Because obviously the game takes place before the Mewtwo thing)
What if gengar is a dead version of clefairy since Pokémon canon confirms Pokémon die naturally so other ghosts are maybe just dead I know it’s dark but people die so yeah.
I remember MatPat covered the “you killed Blue’s Raticate” theory…years ago…and he basically looked at the levels, determined that they were two different Pokémon, and that Blue just boxed the rat to get a better Pokémon
@@casualcallahan7039 Is this all that ridiculous? All of his other Pokémon are much stronger than Ratticate, which is why he never boxed them. And yeah, if we believe that he actually has 40 Pokémon at that point, it's not absurd that he caught a bunch of evolved mons rather than evolve every base form
There is a TV show in the 90's, a kids show in which a kid wakes up in a mysterious world and after 2 seasons we learned that the kid actually was just in a coma from the first episode. Shows called The Odyssey
10:00 even in pixelmon, a fan made minecraft pokemon mod has cloning machine where you put some ore blocks and usually spits out a ditto and when a mewtwo appears it breaks the machine.
"The speed stat is about combat speed/reaction time". The problem with this theory is that it ignores Blaziken and Magikarp having the same Speed of 80, and this is only one example. This is a theory I never thought hold up.
Especially since a lot of Pokémon that are fast are based on something with a high velocity i.e. Regieleki being pure electricity which travels very fast, Dragapult and the Latis are based on jets, etc.
@@luminas404 Incorrect. The Emerald Dex states Magikarp's swimming muscles are weak and Pearl Dex says it is unable to swim against even slow-moving currents. As a cherry on top, several Dex entries claim that the fish is worthless both in power and speed. How Magikarp ended up with 80 points in speed is truly one of humanity's greatest mysteries.
While i always thought Blues rattata died, i never thought it was our fault. I always figured it happened when Blue was going after Team Rocket or such.
I think it’s plausible that Lt. Surge is from Alola. In those games we have his autograph and the “Kanto” gym is literally his gym. I think he was the Pokemon equivalent of a WW2 veteran. Obviously having taken place a lot closer to the present. He was an Alolan soldier who was sent overseas to fight the enemy Kanto (maybe Johto too) and stayed there after the war. A “Clampearl Harbor” may have led to this conflict. Another theory I think possible is that Salamence was supposed to be named Flygon. Bagon-> Shelgon-> Salamence(?) it would make more sense to be named Flygon. The whole goal of this evolutionary line was to fly. Now I don’t think the names switched and Flygon was supposed to be Salamence, but I think it was going to be called something that builds off Vibrava. Then for some reason they changed names.
There is somewhat of a backing for this... The TCG card Secret Mission has a real world map of German occupied Poland... I don't know why exactly but it's there
@@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 yeah but you really can’t have anything about Germany without talking about ww2. When people think about Germany it’s clocks, chocolate cake, and Nazis. And not in that order. Seems like a culture they might stay away from.
Another piece of info for the blue’s raticate theory: even if he did want to box it because it was weak, that doesn’t explain the empty team slots in the next two battles after. Surely it would be better to have the slot filled with a weaker pokemon then no pokemon at all. My guess is he just doesn’t want to fill up the team slot his pokemon would have been in until he gets over his grief. Edit: how the hell is a post about a silly raticate theory my most controversial UA-cam comment lmao. Imma stop replying to the stuff posted beneath this because I kind of have other things to do
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 another issue with that, he’s found on the first floor of the tower and notably doesn’t have a silph scope. There is no way to catch any of the Pokémon that appear in the tower without a silph scope because they all appear as spooky ghosts, if I am remembering correctly. Meaning there was no way for him to catch any of the Pokémon in the tower
@@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8csYeah that's true. In that case my assumption is that since Blue is a douche, he might have just boxed the Raticate the moment it stopped being "strong" to him. It logically would make more sense for him to keep Raticate in his party, but I could see Blue just jumping the gun and ditching it.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 that’s totally fair, and at the end of the day it’s a silly theory so I’m not going to argue too much over it lol, it is probably within Blue’s personality to just box it the second it’s not strong, but I like to imagine that the raticate theory gives him a little humanity so he isn’t a complete jerk the whole game.
@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs Oh yeah sorry if it sounded like I was arguing lol. It is an interesting theory that I remember as a kid from the classic Poketuber days.
I'm glad you didn't make the argument that the only Entei, Raikou and Suicune were made by Ho-Oh. That's one that I've always thought to be dumb. Sure, Ho-Oh revived some Pokemon and turned them into the Beasts, but that doesn't mean they're the only Beasts. If anything I would probably argue that Ho-Oh revived them in the image of Pokemon it's already seen. Also, there are PokeDex entries that suggest they're born in severe weather that match their type (like Entei being born from an erupting volcano), if I remember correctly. It's always rubbed me the wrong way that so many people accept this theory that Ho-Oh outright created the Beasts.
The Raticate theory is nice and I kinda wish it was real but from what I know Blue's Rattata was level 15 and his Raticate was level 16 (Rattata evolves at level 20) so he most likely did just swap it out
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I wouldn't concern about the Paradox beasts messing up the last theory. They could be logical paradoxes - which are things that shouldn't be possible. If anything the time machine probably operates on Professor Sada's views on the Ancient Past, meaning that whatever the Past and - by extention, the future Pokemon - are supposed to be are just imagined Pokemon, like the Scarlet/Violet book describes. Like, out of all the Ancient Pokemon, why aren't there ancient Tyrantrums or Kabutopses? They'd feel right at home in the ancient past, right???
Therefore, the Paradox Pokemon are moreso "logical Paradoxes" - something that was never meant to be or could never be in general. They are merely the thoughts that we bring to existance. The Paradox Pokemon were brought upon by the mind of the Professor, with an Ancient past motif in mind. So, long story short - the Paradox mons SHOULDN'T EXIST, but they were imagined and willed into existance by the mind of a brilliant professor.
Therefore, the theory about the Legendary Beasts being the original trio of Eeveelutions is still factually legit in my eyes. Don't let Professor Sada's work mess with you.
No thanks :)
If you do another, can you do the theory on the paradox Pokémon being actually paradox’s by the machine and not actually from the past or future?
Ok
I’d like to add for theory 9, that it’s stated Mega Aerodactyl is stated to be closer to the actual prehistoric Aerodactyls, further proving that reviving from fossils is not a perfect replica, and that the actual prehistoric kabutos could be different
Or it could be like Kleavor and Scizor, where scyther originally evolved into a kleavor until the world changed around it, forcing its evolution to be lost, and scizor took its place.
Maybe that’s why ONLY KABUTO lived 300 million years ago, because back then, it evolved into something else… a bug type that was lost to time
@@UpSlingshot Or evolved into a bug type that just so happens to have scythes for arms kabuto = scyther
This is actually something I have fun with in my hypothetical pokemon fan game. It includes new forms for the fossils, who were revived with a new method that filters out the rock contaminants and leave them without the rock type. Aurorus is an Ice/Electric type, for example!
Theory is false because of one reason everybody keeps missing:
Genesect _came with the cannon_ - It was _upgraded,_ not _added_
@@ericwest3912in Japanese (so the people that make the game) that’s never confirmed
The ditto theory is kinda funny. Here you are trying to make what potentially could be the strongest pokemon at the time and you get this little derpy blob that occasionally transforms into whatever its looking at. Then they mass released it into the wild and just assumed/didnt care it wouldn't be a invasive species. Love it
Considering Ditto's blob-like form and they were attempting to clone a psychic cat, it could be that their original containment wasn't designed to hold something that can flow into creaks and cracks and escape.
And as mythical pokemon have flat base stats(100), ditto as a failed mew copy have flat base stats(48) too but lower.
I mean these scientists were trying to secretly create a Pokemon super weapon so I don’t think they had much consideration for the ethics of everything. So they probably wouldn’t care about invasive species
I mean, Mewtwo destroyed the lab. The Ditto could've been released completely unintentionally.
@@rjtarroza29 I had to actually check this, why did they make its states so bad aaaaaaaa
10:12 you also can find ditto in almost every game, one of the exceptions being legends arceus a game specifically set in the past
Genius
And what about ruby and Sapphire?
@@Ilikesceptile11rs and rb happened at the same time and ditto exist before the events or red and blue
Makes sense sense ditto Was made before Mewtwo and that happens in the present
You can't catch a lot of Pokemon in Legends Arceus...
You forgot to mention another detail why people believe the Gengar and Clefable theory... at the time both couldn't hit each other with their STABs... hinting that you can't hurt your shadow, and your shadow can't hurt you.
yeah what 🤣 so?
@@Calamari7????
Gengar isn't Clefable's shadow. It's a dead Clefable.
He forgot to mention this? So you somehow knew he meant to mention this but simply forgot?
Clefairy and Gengar were among the first Pokemon made and programmed, Clefable came far later
You have NO IDEA how many memories this dug up from my time watching UA-cam in the 2010s. True kids remember watching videos from people like Jwittz, Aura Guardian, and Truegreen7, all covering these exact theories
Thanks for the memory throwback, Mikey! Back to those old videos I go 😅😅😅
Me too. I remember watching a German Poketuber years ago, talking about many of these theories. For example, he thinks the Cubone-Kangaskhan-theory is legit :D
Seriously, I loved this content back then
IKR! You don't have to be a 90s kid to remember all of the "mew under the truck" theories! I was born in 04 but I have a ton of nostalgia for that theory cuz all the 90s kid poketubers in the 2010s were talking about it!
Dont forget Tamashii
For me it was around 2017/2018 when seeing those theories
“Pikachu is your dad” at the start was wild😂
@XxXN1ghtcoreXxX oh yeahhh lol, at first when I saw it I was WAT and then I understood
It’s funny out of context tho
So that's why he is a low rate encounter
It could also refer to Ash since we never once saw Ash's dad.
Bc he’s tryna find the milk, if you catch him, he is back against his will. Unless you release or put him in the pc
23:33 This caught me my surprise and made me laugh, wasn't expecting Lighting McQueen to fly across the screen.
frrrrr
"Sir a second car has hit the tower"
@@skeletortheoverlordofevil1749 oh no 😂
It had no right being as funny as it was I couldn't stop laughing and immediately paused the video to come comment on it 😂
I am speed.
I'd love to hear you go over the Graveler and Machoke trade evolution theory. The theory states that they were originally intended to only evolve when traded with each other. This is evidenced by the fact that Machoke has a lizard like face and Graveler has four arms but when they evolve Golem suddenly has two arms and a lizard like face and Machamp suddenly has four arms. This concept of traits being exchanged in an exclusive trade evolution would later be done in Gen 5 with Shelmet, who when traded with Karablast loses it's armor and becomes Accelgor meanwhile Karablast gains armor and becomes Escavelier.
Its an interesting theory but in Shemet's and Karrablast's case the only thing thats really happening is Karrablast taking the shell and now living inside it and Shelmet having to adapt to life with its squishy body not being protected by a shell, Graveler and Machoke have a lot more stuff going on, also we've seen Graveler evolve into a Golem without being traded before, it happened to Yellow's Graveler in the Pokemon Adventures Manga without a Machoke being present, same thing with Blue's Machoke, only a trade is necessary, it doesn't matter what pokemon its with
@salvatoredantonio2413 I mean of course currently they just need to be traded period. I'm theorizing preproduction stuff, I think they originally planned to have them be mandatory to trade with each other to evolve but then changed their minds come tiem for the full release. What happened later and in the manga are pretty much irrelevant because that all after they would have changed their minds
I think Graveler's second set of arms are the Golem arms while the Geodude arms slowly wither away. Remember, a lot of Gen 1 Pokemon were created out of order too
The thing about the Paradox Beasts is that Terapagos's power is confirmed to be pulling Pokemon from alternate timelines, so the simplest answer is that they're not from the main series timeline.
My favorite theory in general, though, is the deciphering of the inscriptions in Legends Arceus. The idea is that for those carvings of Pokemon you find scattered across the map, you can decipher them by replacing each drawing with the concept that the Pokemon represents.
Where was the Terapagos thing confirmed? It seems weird to create this plotline suddenly with barely any explanation. The paradox forms seem to not make sense though, like with the legendary paradoxes since they were supposedly created much later. Maybe they'll explore this in future gens
I think paradox Pokemon aren't supposed to exist in our timeline. Hence the name, Paradox.
It was confirmed, I believe, with the indigo disk post credit scene when you take terapagos to the crystal pool in kitakami. If you haven't seen it yet, I won't spoil it, but the gist is that you are talking to an individual from a different timeline than your own, which was brought about by terapagos. It explains why the paradox pokemon could exist for Heath to have seen for him to write a book that inspired the game professors to build their time machine.
Also, didn’t Ho-Oh base their revival forms off other Pokemon? Highly likely that the 3 Paradox ‘mons, if not from an alternate timeline, were inspiration for the revival of the three Eeveelutions
i'm confused, which carvings?
You never explained the reason why the truck was there in the first place. It was basically a left over sprite from a beta map. In the beta map, the area where the truck was had buildings and no dock. But when they changed the entire town, the truck was left behind in the same place, which happened to be on the new town dock.
NERD!!!!!
@@diggity4912me when I see someone with constructive evidence and a perspective that doesn't match mine:
@@diggity4912 Hahaha, it took me DECADES to learn this. The truck was the biggest mystery of my LIFE, and I managed to solve it after decades f research.
6:49 Explanation He Was Holding A Everstone
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Bro needs to be on game theory
the last bit LMAO IM DYING "go away you are making things weird" I CANT AHAHAH
This and the cubones mother joke were the highlights for me
I honestly think that Ho-Oh took inspiration from the paradox pokemon while making new bodies for the pokemon that died in the fire
@@I_DoThingsSometimes aren't paradox pokemon from a different universe entirely?
@zeldafan6124 I don't know, all I know is that they exist
@@zeldafan6124 they are from the past.
It's worth mentioning that in the beta of Red/Green there exists a sprite of an evolved form for Marowak with it holding a child Cubone in its arms. Kangaskhan had already been designed by that point so Game Freak must have made the decision to cut Marowak's evolved form given it's resemblance to Kangaskhan.
So while Cubone and Kangaskhan are canonically unrelated, there's definitely a shared history between the two.
Be fun if they established some sort of common ancestor
the Marowak Evolution was cut both because of the similarity to Kangaskhan but also because there was a rule in Gen 1 development that the only 3 stage evolutionary lines were to be Starters. while pidgey, caterpie, and weedle were allowed to bypass that, anyone else had to be a stone or trade evolution. it would have been better if they kept the Marowak evolution however.
@@F14thunderhawk That is interesting. Any reason for the exceptions? I also have to ask, if this is the case then why is Dragonite also an exception? Also, why not just make Marowak evolve through trade?
Imagine if we got a paradox from of marowak or kangaskhan based on the beta evolution
Fun fact: There is a glitch-Pokemon in gen 1 that was a Cubone that evolved into a Kangaskhan. So they might have had them be part of the same line, but decided against it likely due to the Tower fight (I mean they would need a Kangaskhan without a kid) so they split the lines apart and made Marowak as Cubone's evo
Not only can Meowth talk, proving that through immense practice and effort can a Pokémon learn human speech, but Zoroarks dex entries do mention that it can speak like a human when transformed as one. On top of that, psychic Pokémon of sufficient power in general seem to be able to speak telepathically and it wouldn’t be a huge leap for them to just learn human speech. You might say that Zoroark isn’t psychic, but it does learn a helluva lot of psychic moves and has more than sufficient intelligence and abilities. And as evident by just how typings work, Dark type is essentially Psychic in many ways but “evil” or “dirty” (it’s also a dirty form of Fighting type lol).
Dark is mostly representative of "evil" as a whole (it's name in Japanese is literally "evil type") which is why there's a good deal more physical dark moves than psychic moves, but I see what you're getting at.
The two biggest factors in Pokemon talking from what I can gather are _intelligence_ and _willingness to put in the effort._ That being the case, it's so easy to tell in general which Pokemon would/wouldn't learn to talk which is hilarious.
As you pointed out psychic types and random especially crafty ones definitely do/can. On the opposite end I could never imagine Snorlax, Slowbro, Slaking, or any fish Pokemon talking due to lack of intelligence and/or motivation
@@rainbow_vaderit's funny you mention Slowbro only because we see it's alternate evolution Slowking being able to learn speech but that's just because of the venom being injected into it's brain. It would immediately forget how to speak though if the Shellder is knocked off.
I have another theory related)g to mikey’s counteragruement. He said that zoroark had a special bond with N and since they “disguise” as other life forms ( which means they COPY APPEARANCES) it’s is possible that The original N ( the human one , zoroarks friend) Somehow died and he took his place in the human world
I'm also pretty sure that in the Zoroark movie, the Zorua can speak. Even when it's not transformed as a person. I don't remember the movie too well but I feel like I remember it being able to speak
N was a child and has no special powers beyond talking to Pokemon, which other characters can do as well.
Mikey, the whole “gengar is clefairys shadow” has more background then just “They look similar” originally there was talk about either poliwhirl, clefairy, or pikachu being the mascot, and it is theorized that gengar was supposed to be and evil counterpart of gengar
13:05 If you see the concept art of Pokemon Red and Green you can noticed that the conceptual art of Caterpie, Metapod and Butterfree were made in a single sitting, side by side on the same sheet, the entire evolutionary line was designed at the same time, while Venonat and Venomoth were designs that were made much later
True. Magikarp was originally planned to evolve into Dragonite while Dragonair would have evolved into Gyarados
@@KraylebStudiosthat’s not true at all, Magikarp and gyrados are explicitly based on Chinese mythology.
@@Quackdragon92 oops
sour5ce? never seen this and as an artist, the venomoth/butterfree thing always seems prettyy solid. My thoughts was always that they swapped the designs for a real reason early on, but after the design phase.
@@ReverieMotionCanned I'm an Arthropod nerd and the theory dosent make sense because it's impossible for a butterfly to not emerge from a cocoon that had a caterpillar inside
Another piece of evidence to support the Genesect one is that while it's dex does say it's an altered form of an ancient bug Pokemon, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bug type. It could be similar to the situation with dragon types where not all dragon Pokemon are dragon type. Charizard is a dragon, but is not dragon type. It's very possible that Kabutops is/was a bug in terms of it's classification/anatomy, but simply isn't/wasn't a bug type Pokemon.
Except Genesect's cannon is explicitly stated to have been _upgraded,_ not _added_
This is the closest I’ve come to actually believing that theory. I still don’t - it’s hard to explain away them having completely different body types - but this piece of evidence is the best I’ve seen so far.
@@ericwest3912 maybe ancient Kabutops lost the part of it that would resemble a cannon during its fossil/reviving stages?
I personally prefer the Parasect evolution theory. Type works and the name fits.
Another reason why people thought Gengar is Clefable's shadow is because "Gengar" comes from the word Doppelganger, which is someone who looks identical to you
I feel like a better version of the theory is that the first Gengar started as Clefable's shadow gaining sentience. From there it became its own thing, even reproducing. The fact that their original types and even their (later in Clefable's case) secondary typings are inverted: Normal vs Ghost, Fairy vs Poison.
This is also a better/updated explanation behind the Cubone-Kangaskhan theory: the first Cubone arose as an orphaned Kangaskhan cub. That progenitor Cubone, like Gengar, learned to thrive on its own and, in Cubone's case, eventually evolve and create a divergent species. Modern Cubone aren't all tied to their mother's dying, but that is how they started and now exist.
@@MrrynHow do you explain Gastly and Haunter then?
@@electronicdreams.9870 It's a chicken and egg situation. In this case, the first Gengar spawned from a shadow gained sentience, then became its own divergent species that could live (as much as a Ghost can) and breed. Just look at breeding mechanics: it's not like Pokemon can only breed with each other to spawn the lowest evolution stage.
Or also Wiederganger as a Germanic term for Ghost
@@electronicdreams.9870 There is a simple explanation in this case: originally, Gastly, Haunter and Gengar wasn't supposed to be an evolution line. They are nothing alike! But at some point in developement someone decided they wanted a Ghost evolution line and it became like this. To that effect we have the Dragonite evolution line: Dratini and Dragonair seems like a logical evolution, then comes Dragonite, who isn't nothing alike the other 2!
20:45 My uncle just told me about a similar theory! Except, instead of the pokemon being a baby Kangaskhan, it's actually a Charmander instead. It's interesting to think about, since I've never heard the Charmander take on this popular theory!
My conspiracy theory:
Gamefreak added the Pokédex entries for Mega Evolutions in Gen 7 which said that Pokémon were in pain when they Mega Evolved... In order to make people feel less attached to Mega-Evolution, so they'd be less upset when Gamefreak removed them in Gen 8.
well it's back in legends za so
@@boi16hyper16 yeah, and people are hyped as heck for it 🩷
It's much missed, and Dynamax was a bit of a downgrade for most people.
I fully believe that’s what it is, cause that’s only in Sun and Moon. In X/Y, the transformations are harmless. They become painful in Sun and Moon, but then they changed back to being harmless when Let’s Go came out. If they’re harmless when Z-A comes out, that’ll be a confirmation.
I also heard that the reason for these disturbing dex entries is because they were written by someone that did not like mega evolutions.
@@kayschut9327 written by a jealous Flygon! 😂🩷
For #10, the info you showed just before mentioning that "Zoroark's inability to speak could ruin it", it literally mentions that while it's in the form of a human, it's capable of human speech.
It’s interesting how early Pokémon media had the idea that the Pokémon and real world were kinda the same world before gradually retconning it all away. Heck, Kanto is named and based on the area of the same name in Japan. No other region has the same name as the area it’s based on.
Kitakami kind of does. There are multiple things named Kitakami in that area in the real world. Though it's also worth noting that no region name is ever given. That name is only used for a "land".
I miss when Pokémon still had ties to real-world places and things. I know it's kinda silly and paradoxical, but I feel like it made the series and the setting more whimsical and mysterious.
@@Sanguivore It still does though.
@@Sanguivoreevery region is based on an existing place, the only difference is not being named directly and having a few new places
"Haha it is I Grunty Boi and HELP ME!" I was on the floor laughing😂 Keep it up Michael
(Me skipping through the ad break) "...dinosaurs in the olympics! Ta-ta!"
Same
"Zoroark cant talk" Team Rockets Meowth shows that Pokemon can learn human language if they want to :P
The anime isn’t canon though.
He was experimented on anyway
@@myotisart7729yeah but what Pokemon makes more sense to learn human language? A Pokémon that mimics other things including humans and hides among them for who knows how long. Or a cat with a coin on its head.
in highlighted text it says it can talk like a human when transformed into one 19:09
Idc if the anime isn't cannon or not
In an episode of pokemon clack and white Adventures and beyond, during their trip to Kanto
Ash, Cilan, and Iris go to a deserted island aka illusion island to check out the giant pokemon unknowingly created by Zoroark
Axew got hit with stun spore by a run in with a fleeing Foongus and was rushed to the Islands pokemon center
"Nurse Joy" and "Audino" greeted ash and the others one at a time
"Nurse Joy" was capable of speech and later turned out to be Zoroark in disguise
And the pokedex shown at 19:08 showed Zoroark is capable of human speech when transformed taking on a human Disguise thus making the theory cannon and true
:)
0:01 seeing Mikey‘s bearded, angry, yelling face on a child’s body is so funny to me. He looks so pissed at the mere suggestion that Pikachu is his dad.
True tho
Kabutops not being a bug type doesn’t debunk the Genesect theory, as Pokémon Scarlet has already proven that prehistoric Pokémon were once a different typing than their ancestors are today!
The ancient paradox pokemon aren't necessarily from our past, the Crystal Pool professors say the paradox pokemon are from different timelines
Kabutopw is based on a trilobite not insects
@@zenvultra as said in the video, Dwebble and Crustle are crabs but theyre still bug types so not being a bug isnt an issue
@@salvatoredantonio2413 Yeah I get that point, but kabutops doesn’t even share a similar body to genesect so any connection between the two is a stretch
@@zenvultra totally agree with that, Genesect clearly has an abdomen and thorax and Kabutops doesn't so l just cant see any similarities besides the fact theyre both bipedal
The SS Anne truck thing is even more annoying when you think about the abandoned keys in the Game Corner. "Someone's keys! They'll be back." But they never are, not even after getting the certificate for completing the Pokedex.
It seemed like the perfect setup. Except I don't know how it would have played out. "Congratulations on your achievement, young man. Say, want the keys to my truck? I parked it on an island on top of a Mew after a weird night. Want to go move it?"
I caught a mew from under the truck 20 years ago. this isn't a myth.
@@robv5808right…
That can be a cool idea for a sidequest in a pokemon romhack
@@Toast3780-1actually, I came in comments to see because I could swear that I too got a mew from the truck. I remember I was able to get a Pokémon with surf through trade just so I could do this.
It's just an unused truck sprite from the beta
Interesting note about Surge’s nationality: The nickname of “The Lightning American” was used as recently as the Pokemon World Tournament in Black and White 2, meaning that America is a location that canonically exists in the Unova games. This could mean that Unova is a location or even a state within America, or that America in the Pokemon world refers to a continent rather than a country, but realistically they probably just didn’t think about it that hard.
I hope in the future, we get lieutenant surge's background expanded on, maybe in a Texas based pokemon region, the devs could do so much cool stuff with the space programs in texas and stuff. If you ask me, Lieutenant Surge is definitely from Texas
Well... In fact, America it's the continent... U all miss that the country is called united states...
@@darkshivano5464 are you slow? its the united states of AMERICA. usually when someone just says "america" they're referring to the usa.
Also pokemon games are very clearly take place on some alternate Earth - the regions are named different, sure, but the topography matches pretty much 1 to 1. So its very much possible there is, in fact, America, just maybe not in the same state as America of our Earth, for example it could be a kingdom, or maybe pokeworld America was never conquered and retained its native culture, reaching modern times naturally. There are lots of possibilities Surge can be called american without necessarily hailing from the USA.
@@atazgd Only US citizens call it america.... The rest of the world know that america is a continent... Im not slow, i just talk properly... not like you american guy...
6:20 “Just kidding it’s about dinosaurs in the Olympics!!!” Was super funny, especially because they are currently being held.
I need this!!!
The
*conspiracy theorist voice* "What if his "true" answer is just the backdrop, while the "joke" answer is the theme of the story!"
*normal voice* "...Just saying...It could work..."
@@Kamen-Rider-Nexus I mean
that's how novel-writing is SUPPOSED to work. You have the superficial concept (dinosaurs competing in the Olympics) and the underlying themes (the ineffability of hope etc. etc.)
"Dinosaurs in the Olympics" isn't a story. It's a setting.
An author that goes that hard about "my book is about these pompous-ass things" is typically hella pretentious and boring to read. It's the READERS who need to go in and DERIVE the lofty subjects from the existing material. The author may have intended for there to be a heavy theme of hope or perseverance or the unpredictability of entropy in a living universe or whatever, but the vessel for conveying that is going to be dinosaurs in the Olympics (or whatever fun thing they want to tell a story about.)
I have a theory: kabutops is a scither ancestor. Kabutops has similar arms, may be a bug in the past and land animals came from the water, so kabutops could transform into scither with enough time. Please make a video on comments theories
1:49 This applies to May too (not Brendan though). In Emerald when she’s battled in the optional Rustboro City battle, she uses a Torkoal if you picked Torchic, and she never uses it again
You killed the Torkoal too you MONSTER!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
don't cheren and bianca change pokémon too? just like, testing teams?
Yes! I was going to post exactly this. Thank you!
@@lorien_braga they have one battle were they use early pokemons caught in a "whoever captures more win" bet but dunk part of them.
Then again, this case the pokemons were specifically caught to see whoever haves more dex entries so it's closer to the other 30 something pokemons (theorically) in Blue's Box than Raticate.
@@AllanGuiHaya70 What about Blue's Rattata and Fearow in Yellow 😭?
Leaked beta sprites indicate that the Cubone line may have contained Kangaskhan at one point but they were later separated. This would also explain why Giovanni would have Kanga on his team, since it would have originally been a ground type.
Actually, leaked beta sprites show that Marowak used to have an evolution (that existed completely separate from Kangaskhan) and said evolution's back sprite looks as if it's holding a baby Cubone over its shoulder.
There is also a specific missingno in red and blue that has cubones cry and when you level it up it evolves into kangaskan
I remember reading this is why if you force a Missingno to evolve it evolves into Kangaskhan. This "Missing Number" was initially programed for kangaskhan to be an evolution and it was said to be Marowak.
Kanga is one of the earliest made Pokemon before they even considered Types
7:45 Counter-theory for you on why Ash never ages. Remember in the first movie where he gets caught in an attack between Mew and Mewtwo and is turned to stone before the tears of the Pokémon bring him back? What if that changed his physiology making it impossible for his body to actually grow older? And to prevent him or others from noticing this fact, Mew and Mewtwo combined their powers to keep everyone else the same physical age as well.
Interesting idea, but this is even more of a stretch than the Ho-oh age theory.
If that's the case then that explains why he can take flamethrowers straight to the face, he's a rock type
Im pretty sure the actual reason ash never ages is because the entire anime is supposed to be based during summer vacation im pretty sure and the reason he doesn’t, like, die to flamethrower is because it’s an anime lol.
I’m the first series it’s literally stated he has nearly a year to get to Indigo Plateua. He takes a summer break to train or something after getting his 7th or 8th badge. So no, the entire anime is not during summer
It does make a bit of sense when you realize ash have fears of strength far greater than any human in history
Another piece of evidence that Cubone’s mother was at least originally intended to be Kangaskhan is that there’s a glitch in Red and Blue where MissingNo can evolve into Kangaskhan if you haven’t registered Marowak, meaning MissingNo might be the leftover evolution data
“There’s no way something this dark is in a kids game”
Pokédex: forgetting something?
Surge was Isekai’d into the Pokémon world
That Time I Was Reincarnated as a Gym Leader.
That time I was reincarnated as a war veteran@@deadlydingus1138
That time i was reincarnated into the pokemon world and only used electric types to become a gym leader in the kanto region
A more canon explanation is multiverse theory, and the versions of the pokemon world that are our world, (but with pokemon and better tech) do exist, and just... aren't relevant anymore.
Because boring irl worlds aren't as marketable, basically.
If it can happen in Mystery Dungeon in can happen in the main games, that's what I say.
4:52 Grunty boi really just said
"👍=Help"
HELP ME
He sounds like the meme😂
WHAT? HELP ME!
-🍗
Gegagedigedagedago
Is Grunty Boi a Max Design Pro fan?
AND AFTER ALL
I remember watching a video where someone said that they believe that instead of it being a vaporeon, jolteon and flareon that passed in the tower, it was instead three training eevees that passed. So when ho-oh revived them the power ho-oh gave them caused the eevees to evolve into raiku, entei and suicune. I always liked that theory much better and thought it made just a bit more sense than it being the eeveelutions and i thought it made the whole scenerio and the beasts feel much rarer and cooler because it really plays on eevee's evolution gimmick
I think it was a unique now extinct species of Pokemon, or maybe the Beasts used to be common species with completely different appearances and types
Also how would a Flareon die in a fire
@@Pragorius Yeah plus they got their typings from the lightning, flames and rain right?
I love how most of these are from Kanto, since this was pre-high speed internet for a lot of people, especially children in the 90s so these theories formed likely in school and the playground that eventually found their way online.
also, that was the first Gen of Pokémon. They had no idea they were setting the template for a quarter-century (and counting!) of media pored over by millions all over the world. They were just creating and/or localizing some Japanese kids’ game so they could afford their denim jackets and AOL subscriptions
Lightning McQueen just suddenly Ka-chowing across the screen caught me off-guard and made me laugh way harder than it should've 🤣
New mikey form just dropped! 25:44
Now what to name it?
Conspiracy mike
Tin foili boi.
Should be in an insane asylum mickey
I like the idea that the reason Ash didn't age, is that he's telling the story to his grandchildren, and he forgot how old he was at any given moment.
20:28 my opinion, since N multiple times says things about how Pokémon are his FRIENDS Mikey is right and that zoroark is just his best friend
MandJTV: I doubt the writers would make us kill a ratacate.
Writer: diffloom kidnap child to place unknown.
And let sandyghast throw the bones of its victims
9:58 there actually is an interview in 2016 where they asked about this and Masuda responded with "we actually didn't know about this rumor"
For theory 11 kangaskhaun is based on kangoeroes and cubone has boomerang which native Australians used to kill kangoeroes.
23:32 NOT THE LIGHTNING MCQUEEN 😭😭
You got hearted but only two likes
Now three
Now 25
27 now
@@jngo172now 45
'Writers would never write this in a kid's show.' *LOOKS POINTEDLY AT THE BRUTALITY OF THE KID'S MANGA*
Courage the Cowardly Dog legit has Courage puppeting his dead (human) parents beyond the first season of the show, to pretend they are still there with him. Writers would ABSOLUTELY make a kid's show that dark.
The kirby anime literally had everywhere BUT popstar be ruled by Nightmare Wizard and all but Meta Knight and the legendary knights that arrive at thr end the good guys tubro died fighting Nightmare Wizard forces.
Some people would totally do that.
Also the Batman Brave thr Bold decided to adapt Emperor Joker... of all things.
Those Magmar did not deserve that ice, Giovanni!! (I think it was like that?)
"It's about dinosaur in the Olympics" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'd read it. XD
@@killdozer7792 Same
"Teach a dinosaur to ride a ball!"
25:57 Tbf I don't think most of us consider those forms canon. It's clear they just wanted something to grab old fans attention. Pure money grab
I think I understand, lore-wise, how it could happen. The beasts started out as the paradox forms, then grew out of their feral states and were the eeveelutions, and then ho-oh revived them, and they took on appearances like their ancestors.
Your parents loving you isn’t canon
So, about that Cubone. The dex says it wears its' mother's skull. However this doesn't necessarily mean it's the skull inside its' mother's head.
Marowak are the bone keeper pokemon. It's entirely possible that the dex entry was trying to say something along the lines of "the skull it wears was given to it by its mother".
Marowak having a collection of bones that it gives to its children to help arm and protect them would make far more sense for a species than every single cubone killing its mother only to tear out and wear its skull then feel bad about it.
Especially since, as shown in the clip, cubone's mother was a marowak and still alive while cubone was already wearing its skull. Nevermind that you can breed marowaks in game without killing the mother.
Adding to this, Kangaskhan is enormous when compared to Cubone so its skull would be more of a home to Cubone than a helmet.
My thought when I read this was that marowak shed their outer skulls to give cubone, then they regrow the skull and they can shed it again for as many babies as they can have :)
Now that's a theory I can get behind. I like this!
This brings up a new unsettling question. If I breed my marowak in the daycare, where is it getting the skull to give to its child? 🤨
A collection it stores in its pokeball?
23:07 Bro how did I not realize as Kangaskhan faints it hugs it’s baby, that’s so sad
They know there screwed when they saw a fire dancing marowak.
M..m..Mikey? 21:51
When he said that, I laughed out loud. That is the last thing that I thought was coming out of his mouth. 😂
The "Kanto War" and "Pre-Legendary Beasts" theories have potential to be explored in Legends games.
The war is probably the Gulf War or something considering Gen 1 existed in a version of our world that had Pokemon
"There's no way for this kids' show for them to write in such a dark explanation of things."
Takeshi Shudo writing a literal apocalyptic uprising plot leading to the extinction of humanity spearheaded by Ash's Pikachu that was rejected by the show runners halfway through the series: "Am I a joke to you?"
He was on drugs at that point, hence why he came up with such a wild idea, and you admitted yourself that the rest of the production team disallowed it to happen.
@@Evdafawth My point still stands, though. The fact that we almost got a super dark and violent uprising story out of a kid's show is still surprising, no matter where it came from or how close it came to be.
I'm not arguing about the overall point here - I also think the coma theory is a load of Tauros crap - but there's a lot of dark stuff you'll find in these "kid's shows" if you dig a little deeper
@@ptdevil2563 Yeah, I was being a bit too aggressive. I concur with your second paragraph.
I guess it's a moot point if it was rejected though...
Although it being too dark is only half the reason it would be tonally off IMO. The other half is that it would make fans regret investing in the story, if none of it actually happened.
And of course, an easy rebuttal to the Ash coma theory is just "What about the parts he wasn't there for?". Ash's coma dream keeps randomly switching to Team Rocket's perspective, yet he's still surprised whenever they turn up and never sees through their disguises?
You said it yourself. It was rejected by the rest of the team.
5:16 I thought it was going to be a factor ad lmao because the food always looks delicious from Factor but that whole chef to you delivery thing is really cool and this was a great video 😂❤
For the first theory on this list. Matpat actually did a theory on his channel. His theory suggest that he caught a separate Raticate given the level at which Rattate evolves at and the level of his Raticate
His lazy ass couldn't even get rattata to level 20?
@@HourglassBen does that surprise you about blue?
i have a little theory for the last one. So there are now paradox legendary beast, the ancestors of the normal legendary beast. But i think that they arent genetical ancestors just pokemons who where in the same position as the legendary beasts.
So Ho-oh chooses three pokemons like idk every 1000 years and make them beast (thats why they are dinosaurs). So when the he saw the eeveelutions in the fire he felt sorry for them so choose them as the beasts.
Lt. Surge's war theory was expanded from what I remember.
Theory goes after the war which was fought with pokemon, most of the adult men died and the kids were being prepped to continue the war which is why the whole pokemon-gym-elite four- champion system was developed: it's a training system to prepare them for the war
22:23 That can easily be explained by that not being the first Cubone and Marowak. If the theory is true it would go as follows:
Mother Kangaskan dies and baby Kangaskan takes the skull. The skull fuse with the baby Kangaskan creating the first Cuboon. Cuboon now evolves into Marowak, also the first of it's kind. Marowak then breeds and because of the genetic changes it births a Cuboon with the skull because that's a part of that Pokémon's species now.
The Marowak from the Ghost Tower isn't the first of its kind to birth a Cuboon. That is why it's a Marowak and not a Kangaskan.
how does it breed? you would require two seperate Cubones to both be orphaned, both fuse with the skull of its mother, then both undergo the SAME genetic mutations to become two seperate but identical species, all to happen within each others lifetimes so that they could mate. if u try it logically, it just doesn't work. Being a seperate pokemon makes more sense
Exactly! This is one of the most fascinating theories to me
Around theory 1: Kieran ditches his whole party bar Dippllin/Hydrapple between Teal Mask and Indigo Disc
There is a piece of dialogue that does basically confirm that they were simply boxed with the mention of Furret still around
@@WaterKirinGamer I know, Poliwrath even returns during Mochi Madness. Do you suggest Bede and Hop released rest of their Pokémon by end of SwSh? Dubwool and Corviknight were boxed mid-game and returned.
That's not a problem, as he had and continues to have a Full Team, so those could easily be explained as being Boxed (which is further proven by Poliwrath temporarily returning to replace Politoed during Mochi Mayhem).
The true problem is that even in The Teal Mask itself, he also uses a Sentret (1st Battle), Furret (2nd and 3rd Battle) and Cramorant (4th Battle), but never together nor filling out his team before settling with Shiftry and Probopass.
Also N changes his whole team multiple times
@@WaterKirinGamerHe still switched them out
25:59 what if they where revived as their past counter parts
10:15
We kinda did get official confirmation. Kinda.
You see, when the detective Pikachu movie was released, there were a couple theories thrown around. Like how the place was in Kanto, and how the Mewtwo was the Mewtwo from the games.
In an interview they asked the people behind the movies and they said "We legally cannot confirm or deny any of those theories, that's something The Pokémon Company has to do. But we can say that we worked very closely with them, and not a single frame, not a single detail was without them giving their approval"
"Okay, how about the line that claims Ditto is a failed experiment during the research on Mewtwo"
"I can only repeat myself: We cannot confirm or deny anything. But every single detail in the movie was effectively decided on by TPC."
Not exactly a confirmation, but as close as can be without outright saying yes.
Nope, Ditto wasn't in the Mansion originally
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Neither was Mewtwo or Mew.
@Muckowitch But they were brought there. Mew also used to be white, not pink, and it and Ditto only share the same height and weight because Shigeki Morimoto added Mew in at the last minute with the little remaining space they had left on the games after removing the debug mode. Yellow added Ditto to the Mansion to I assume give you something special to catch there because they removed Magmar.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Well, I disagree.
You say Mew used to be white: Yes, but you can see a pink tint on it. And with the technological limitations I don't think that says much. If it was intentional, you know how buggy Gen 1 was.
You say that the reason for Mews height and weight is because it was added last minute. Well, that still doesn't explain why it has Dittos weight and height, and not for example Pikachus.
And your last point is literally a guess.
And on top of that, none of your points have anything to do with the original comment.
10:07 this is my favorite Pokemon theory, outright. Not only does it make perfect sense, but I've added onto that with Grimer, Koffing, and Trubbish (this is probably somewhere else, but I hadn't seen it before), some of the escaped Ditto's cellular structure could've been stabilized by pollutants in their environment, Grimer are ditto that made it to the ocaen, causing the water and other materials to fuse with it, Koffing are evaporated dittos that reformed, and trubbish, fused with the trash bags they were in, and while, yes, trubbish can't be found in Kanto, I believe those same trash bags were sent other regions (Unova, Kalos, Alola, and Galar) to dispose of the evidence.
love this idea
The Venomoth and Butterfree switch, while I don't believe was an error, it isn't completely out-of-the-question. After all, Blastoise was a completely separate Pokèmon from the Squirtle line before they probably realized how redundant the two big turtle Pokèmon are and scrapped Squirtle's original final evolution in favor of Blastoise. So, while unlikely, it isn't impossible that Venonat was meant to evolve into Butterfree before the devs decided for some reason to switch it with Venomoth
Also, apparently according to some sources, in Gen 2, there was shiny colouration mix up: The MOST iconic shiny Pokemon, by far, Gyarados' red coloured shiny form... It was apparently a mistake, someone gave the WRONG shiny colouration to Gyrados... So there is credence to this theory even in future games and thier production.
(although, with the shiny form mix up... Gotta wonder what Pokemon was SUPPOSED to have its shiny form be red, and not Gyarados... We may never know.)
Honestly, I think that's exactly what happened. They have the same eyes, antenna, mouth, hands, and body color. It's not like Gengar/Clefable where it's "kinda similar", they're almost identical. There were several mons that got scrapped/rearranged, and I fully believe Butterfree's design was originally going to be Venomoth.
I think metapod and venonat were probably a trade evolution but later cancelled out
Pokemon in gen 1 had lots of lore and mystery… that’s what’s missing in later generation
Nah just similar design elements, look at Rhydon, the Nidos, and Kangaskhan
4:04 HE SAID THE THING!
Here's another problem with the Genesect Kabutops theory: in the very same dex entry you showed it says that kabuto "hasn't changed in 300 million years" because unlike other fossil Pokémon they're still around to this day (just like the real world horseshoe crab), and if they haven't changed for 300 million years then they must have already been rock type all the way back then
I think Genesect was a lost Parasect evolution from when Parasect didn't become a zombie upon evolution.
It kinda makes sense, but if you remember that the original method to have a Kabuto was reviving it from the Fossil, so it will have the rock type.
That means that yeah, Kabutops could be not Rock Type... And it could be another type of Kabutops before 300 million years, and in this theory, I like to put Scyther as the "Present Form of Kabutops".
Okay but genesects entry says over 300 million years ago which means it could’ve changed and then not changed for 300 million years
@@mrpenguinf4306 I thought of this possibility as I was writing my comment :)
@@madpsycho6that’s dweeble
The coma ash one gave me real nightmares as a kid cuz the concept of death and not being able to move or do anything really freaked me out, also very sad
It doesn't help that the image often associated with it further adds a sense of unease. Couldn't stare at it for long when I was younger.
For the last theory with the legendary beasts. I feel Like Ho-oh took inspiration from Walking Wake, Gouging Fire, and Raging Bolt when reviving Vaporeon, Flareon, and Jolteon, but the body mass of the three weren't enough to completely recreate them, so made Suicune, Entei, and Raikou instead
Except that Walking Wake, Gouging Fire and Raging Bolt don't exist in our timeline and come from an alternative timeline where they did exist. They're explicitly paradoxes, things that shouldn't exist but do. This is straight up told to us in the DLC.
@@Raaxon Right?! People keep forgetting this
@@Raaxon I straight up don't remember that. I must have missed that fact while playing. But it's just a theory to try and tie them together
@@pikapower5791 no, it's cuz that bs is a theory, and Pokemon fans are dumb enough to not know the difference between a theory and a headcanon, paradox Pokemon aren't from different timelines, it's explicitly confirmed that all attempts at timeline travels by the prof failed, and after getting the book from the player, they went for time travel and succeeded
@@Raaxon crazy cuz it's litterally explicitly confirmed that it's false, by the dlc, and then backed up by horizons
With the Clefable and Gengar theory I always heard that Gengar was Clefables ghost rather than its shadow
One thing that also works for the Legendary Beasts-Eeveelutions Theory is that, they're both not intended to be one single animal, showing both dog-like and cat-like features. You can make the argument, the beasts are based off of wild cats and eeveelutions look way more canine-like, but Gamefreak themselves stated they're a mixture of both feline and canine.
I've always said they're Vulpine (like foxes) since Vulpine creatures tend to ride a middle-line between cat and dog.
@@NovumDoesObservation You could make that case, but the last line is a lie lmao. Foxes are literally canines. There's no cat in there.
@@VioletLunaChan Foxes are not classified as Canines. They are classified as Vulpines. Dogs and wolves are classified as Canines, cats are classified as Felines, and foxes are classified as Vulpine. Foxes are considered a real life "Convergent Evolution" in that it shares the same ancestor with Canine creatures, but took a slightly different evolutionary path while still maintaining traits from the ancestor in question. Google is very free and evolution is a hyperfixation of mine.
@@VioletLunaChan foxes are dog hardware cat software
Why would they look completely different?
12:54 okay but kalos had a great war as well, which is the explaination for the ultimate weapon, and this would tie into the real world where france invaded america destroying the native american population
First of all, love this video. It's brought back a lot of memories from the playground where I remember discussing all of these rumors.
For Rumor #4, I noticed you didn't bring up that the only other location Ditto found in yellow and the other Kanto games- Cerulean Cave where Mewtwo lives! This also added to the theory, as the they'd naturally feel at home by their genetic sibling, and there's a good chance some ditto hitched a ride on Mewtwo as it escaped (if the failed clone theory does indeed hold true, which I personally like)
21:52 was WILD 💀
10:45 I'd argue that even Clefable being a fairy type is like a foil to Gengar being part-poison.
Even if I don't see like an actual connection existing, they have some overlap.
Maybe they're supposed to be counterparts/duo pokemon like Scyther and Pinsir
i'd be a lot more convinced if Clefable stayed part-normal type like Wigglytuff did, as a Normal-Fairy would be a much more perfect foil to Gengar's Ghost-Poison, or if Clefable got a Mega and Gigantamax form to match Gengar's. i think the two have enough cool lore on their own without having to force a connection tho. they're both definitely among my favourite Gen 1 Pokemon either way
Now this is my day better!
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@@Hamsandwichwithlettuce happy
@@spyro125 no
The lighting McQueen got me😂 23:28
All these theories blow. Ash isn't in a coma. You are. 😂❤ ~ Shun
I'm probably not the only person to say this, but mew absolutely can appear under the truck!
Because gen 1 has arbitrary code execution, someone programmed a virus that spreads when you trade Pokemon with an infected game, and it also adds a Mew under the truck.
Now, yes it's not official but I think it's far cooler that someone made a fully functional virus and used it to add mew under the truck.
A virus that creates pokemon
A digital program that creates monsters
So what you're telling me
MEW IS A PORYGON
(haha digimon joke with a swirve right at the end)
“Like Cubone’s Mother, I gotta punch some holes in it” I have to hit you with a “Bloody Nora” here Mikey, but you may have my snort-laugh also.
Hot damn, I still remember 23 years ago when we discussed how to get into the hidden cave behind the truck to get mew, my friends and I thought you need a machamp to move the truck, bc obviously other pokemons would be too weak :D
Thanks for the trip down nostalgia lane.
OMG REFRENCE "PIKACHU IS YOUR DAD" is probably a reference to detective pikachu where the dad is turned into his partner pikachu in which the son goes on a huge journey to find where his dad whent after a car crash he was in with his Pikachu (i wont spoil any more)
17:00 my head-canon for why fossil Pokémon are all rock type, is just that the tough bodies of rock types are more likely to survive the aeons and therefore, of all the ancient Pokémon, the only ones whose intact fossils we find are the rock ones.
I had that theory long before gen 8, but I think the Galarian Fossils actually strengthen that theory, since the only non rock-type fossils we have, *haven't* survived the years.
Theory: the reason ash is always 10 years old is because he wants free orders at restaurants
I feel like the fact that you can’t find Ditto in Legends: Arceus at all, is even more proof it’s a failed clone of Mew
(Because obviously the game takes place before the Mewtwo thing)
If Ditto is only present on the Future Side of AZ, would also be fun.
ZA* Also orginally, I thought it was only past, but due to SV and the trailer, I changed my mind@@albertonishiyama1980
@@albertonishiyama1980 I can’t really tell what you’re implying here because your grammar is kind messy
even if they did include it they could’ve made it exclusive to space time distortions which proves it just as much
@im_a_tide_pod basically if Ditto is only on the future side of the games, it would confirm that Ditto is a recently-created Pokémon species.
What if gengar is a dead version of clefairy since Pokémon canon confirms Pokémon die naturally so other ghosts are maybe just dead I know it’s dark but people die so yeah.
I remember MatPat covered the “you killed Blue’s Raticate” theory…years ago…and he basically looked at the levels, determined that they were two different Pokémon, and that Blue just boxed the rat to get a better Pokémon
So basically: "Blue had two rats, a small and a big one, and boxed both them once they started falling off." - Matthew Game Theory Patrick
@@casualcallahan7039 Is this all that ridiculous? All of his other Pokémon are much stronger than Ratticate, which is why he never boxed them. And yeah, if we believe that he actually has 40 Pokémon at that point, it's not absurd that he caught a bunch of evolved mons rather than evolve every base form
@@casualcallahan7039 …yes…that is it in a nutshell
21:56 Jesus Christ Miley what the hell
For real where on earth did that come from
"Lightning struck the grass tower" mcqueen edit got me good 😂
There is a TV show in the 90's, a kids show in which a kid wakes up in a mysterious world and after 2 seasons we learned that the kid actually was just in a coma from the first episode. Shows called The Odyssey
Grunty Boy likes Salmon? Yeah, that makes sense. Add it to the lore.
What’s the closest Pokémon to a salmon? Veluza? Grunt Boi eating good with a Veluza falay with a side of Slowpoke tails
@@robertrodriguezrios9494 probably and not gonna lie that sounds good
same here!
10:00 even in pixelmon, a fan made minecraft pokemon mod has cloning machine where you put some ore blocks and usually spits out a ditto and when a mewtwo appears it breaks the machine.
"The speed stat is about combat speed/reaction time".
The problem with this theory is that it ignores Blaziken and Magikarp having the same Speed of 80, and this is only one example. This is a theory I never thought hold up.
Especially since a lot of Pokémon that are fast are based on something with a high velocity i.e. Regieleki being pure electricity which travels very fast, Dragapult and the Latis are based on jets, etc.
Well, a magikarp can swim as fast as a blaziken run on land? Maybe thats it
@@luminas404 Incorrect. The Emerald Dex states Magikarp's swimming muscles are weak and Pearl Dex says it is unable to swim against even slow-moving currents. As a cherry on top, several Dex entries claim that the fish is worthless both in power and speed.
How Magikarp ended up with 80 points in speed is truly one of humanity's greatest mysteries.
@@PedroHenrique-mk5zi and gets double in rain? Why? That's so funny
Have you seen a suffocating fish flop around when it's just out of the water? They are so damn fast with it. Magikarp just never suffocates.
While i always thought Blues rattata died, i never thought it was our fault. I always figured it happened when Blue was going after Team Rocket or such.
You think Blue cares about a Raticate?
I think it’s plausible that Lt. Surge is from Alola. In those games we have his autograph and the “Kanto” gym is literally his gym.
I think he was the Pokemon equivalent of a WW2 veteran. Obviously having taken place a lot closer to the present. He was an Alolan soldier who was sent overseas to fight the enemy Kanto (maybe Johto too) and stayed there after the war. A “Clampearl Harbor” may have led to this conflict.
Another theory I think possible is that Salamence was supposed to be named Flygon. Bagon-> Shelgon-> Salamence(?) it would make more sense to be named Flygon. The whole goal of this evolutionary line was to fly.
Now I don’t think the names switched and Flygon was supposed to be Salamence, but I think it was going to be called something that builds off Vibrava. Then for some reason they changed names.
There is somewhat of a backing for this...
The TCG card Secret Mission has a real world map of German occupied Poland...
I don't know why exactly but it's there
@@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 think they’ll ever do a Germany region?
@@cobaltprime9467 I mean it's possible...
@@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 yeah but you really can’t have anything about Germany without talking about ww2. When people think about Germany it’s clocks, chocolate cake, and Nazis. And not in that order. Seems like a culture they might stay away from.
@@cobaltprime9467Why do you assume that? We went to Pokémon Nagasaki without any bombs even being implied.
Another piece of info for the blue’s raticate theory: even if he did want to box it because it was weak, that doesn’t explain the empty team slots in the next two battles after. Surely it would be better to have the slot filled with a weaker pokemon then no pokemon at all. My guess is he just doesn’t want to fill up the team slot his pokemon would have been in until he gets over his grief.
Edit: how the hell is a post about a silly raticate theory my most controversial UA-cam comment lmao. Imma stop replying to the stuff posted beneath this because I kind of have other things to do
Maybe he had the team slot open so he could immediately start using whatever he catches in the tower or elsewher that could be stronger?
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 another issue with that, he’s found on the first floor of the tower and notably doesn’t have a silph scope. There is no way to catch any of the Pokémon that appear in the tower without a silph scope because they all appear as spooky ghosts, if I am remembering correctly. Meaning there was no way for him to catch any of the Pokémon in the tower
@@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8csYeah that's true. In that case my assumption is that since Blue is a douche, he might have just boxed the Raticate the moment it stopped being "strong" to him. It logically would make more sense for him to keep Raticate in his party, but I could see Blue just jumping the gun and ditching it.
@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 that’s totally fair, and at the end of the day it’s a silly theory so I’m not going to argue too much over it lol, it is probably within Blue’s personality to just box it the second it’s not strong, but I like to imagine that the raticate theory gives him a little humanity so he isn’t a complete jerk the whole game.
@AshleyoftheSwiftspear-pb8cs Oh yeah sorry if it sounded like I was arguing lol. It is an interesting theory that I remember as a kid from the classic Poketuber days.
I'm glad you didn't make the argument that the only Entei, Raikou and Suicune were made by Ho-Oh. That's one that I've always thought to be dumb. Sure, Ho-Oh revived some Pokemon and turned them into the Beasts, but that doesn't mean they're the only Beasts. If anything I would probably argue that Ho-Oh revived them in the image of Pokemon it's already seen. Also, there are PokeDex entries that suggest they're born in severe weather that match their type (like Entei being born from an erupting volcano), if I remember correctly. It's always rubbed me the wrong way that so many people accept this theory that Ho-Oh outright created the Beasts.
The Raticate theory is nice and I kinda wish it was real
but from what I know Blue's Rattata was level 15 and his Raticate was level 16 (Rattata evolves at level 20) so he most likely did just swap it out