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I'm really disappointed in this discussion. It comes off as an infomercial for the following reasons: 1) HRT is still experimental. 2) she sells HRT at her clinic/sells books. 3) VERY IMPORTANT: NO disclosure of reports correlating HRT with subsequent uterine cancers, breast cancers, strokes, clotting. How convenient all that data is not disclosed. Guess it doesn't help with the "selling points" to promote HRT. The majority of symptoms are directly related to minimal exercise, alcohol use, eating processed foods, lots of sugar/candy. Not to mention years and years of hormonal birth control use and how that disrupts a woman's body at menopause. Be honest. Do a FULL disclosure. There are international clinical studies with disastrous results re HRT. Do your research.
So critical! I’m so happy that younger woman will not suffer as I did because Dr. Haver and Dr. Huberman are educating us! I had PCOS, fibroids, endometriosis, pituitary tumor, migraines, and killer periods. By my own research, I did bio identical hormones with a nurse practitioner after surgical menopause. At 68, I still do low levels of estrogen, but I have to fight for it every year with my insurance company.
Easily one of your most important episodes. Women are so under-served, dismissed, neglected, and denied by their physicians once child bearing years are ending/ over.
And during child bearing years to be honest. The amount of obstetric abuse that goes on in antenatal clinics, delivery rooms and maternity wards, and the absolute dismissal of pain management is obscene.
Totally agree, women are rarely prepared and taught about any of the major changes and transformations they go through in life. Even childbirth, we are only told the nice and positive things to look forward too but no one tells you what to expect after and all the changes your body and mind go through. We need more and more episodes to break the stigma about women's health and bodies.
This is truly Andrew Huberman at his finest - so respectful, asking highly informed questions and such a great listener. This is why he's so successful!
Same here--in our 40s--I hollered at my wife "Hey, honey, I'm going to become a quasi-expert this week in perimenopause, menopause, & vitality for women's health" 🤙 In our 20s I studied how to thrive in our 30s, then 40s, and now looking at 50s; always learning, always an adventure, and much easier with resources like this 😊
I watched Dr. Mary Claire Haver previously and was so impressed that I started talking with my wife about the topic, asking questions and relating what I had learned. Now she is taking HRT and talking with her girlfriends about this a lot. She is clearly perimenopausal at 50 but very fit, athletic and concerned with her nutrition so she is not relying exclusively on the HRT. Her friends are all at different stages but the fact they are now talking about it seems very beneficial. So as a husband, providing a safe place to discuss how she is feeling and being supportive in her search for answers, can make a huge difference in my experience.
As a daughter of a 47 yo, I'm so blessed to have this as a tool to share with my mom as she has begun to experience perimenopause. Thank you doctors for the generosity ❤
Great episode! I had a hysterectomy and oophorectomy at age 23. Doctors tried to take me off estrogen supplements several times, claiming high risks. Once it became available, I was on transdermal (FemRing was by far the best, but as noted by Dr. Haver, too pricy), so felt my risks were low, and would just find new doctors who would prescribe it. Life with it is challenging (still have many symptoms of menopause), but without was impossible. I’m now 73 -- no cancer, no clots. great bone density and cardiac health, waist to hip ratio 0.76, no meds other than the estrogen patch. For my entire adult life, I’ve exercised, consumed a moderately high protein diet (80 to 120 grams/day), quality fats, fruits and vegetables, etc. A healthy, active lifestyle makes all the difference in how we age, even with the challenge of 50 years of menopause.
Thank you so much for your input here! Did I understand correctly that you are still using the estrogen patch in your 70s? I wonder if my mom should consider this....her mood swings are off the charts (she's 68).
@@adelitahinojosa-martin7846 Yes, I’m still on it, and doing very well. There’s some concern about women starting on it later in life (seems safer to start early and stay on if no side effects), but it’s something she should discuss with an open minded and well educated menopause doc.
Every woman should listen to this, my wife went through menopause in her late 30’s , she’s now 56 and a recent bone scan showed she has the bone density of a 74 year old!. As a bodybuilder of 30 plus years she’s finally listened to my advice of resistance training being the elixir for life and makes you hard to kill.
Get her metal tested. You will only find that type of testing at a naturopathic dr. I had osteopenia a few years ago and I was in my early 40s. After a long metal detox protocol, my bone density became normal.
😮😊 Thanks to Huberman, I learned about Sarah Gottfried. She has a food first method, so you might want to look into that too. I don't know, just a thought since she knows alot about women's health!
I'm a 57 year old who has weight trained heavy for years and it really is amazing for keeping the symptoms at bay, but still the aching and weight gain is real.
Oh my gosh. It is basically an emergency that EVERY doctor watches this and begins the path to learn. As a woman I am praying Mary will be able to continue the research on all of this and get more and more physicians to learn.
I have been on TRT and HRT for about 18 mos (late 40s) and they have been complete game changers for my mental health (will to live ❤), physical health (muscle maintenance/visceral fat loss, sleep!!), engineering career, relationships... all the things. It's criminal that this essential knowledge and care requires a fight with so many doctors.... I'm blessed to be persistent and a strong self advocate who is not afraid to fire a doctor and find a new one.
no, my ob-gyn was woefully uneducated (even at the Cleveland clinic!!) I pay out of pocket to see a women's health MD that I found in the NAMS directory. my insurance covers HRT, not TRT, and my blood tests are covered (but not Dutch testing)
For decades I worried something was seriously wrong with me because of the fluctuations in my mood. EVERY healthcare provider I saw recommended antidepressants & mood stabilizers, reinforcing that fear. I did everything my docs (OB/Gyn, PCP, Psy) told me and continued to struggle - until I found HRT. I try not to think about all the time, energy & money I spent on meds and CBT. I might otherwise have gotten my own phd, or a nicer condo in the city, or been a better friend and family member. Dr H - please keep pushing for better representation in medical education and research!
This episode is so important. I’ve spent my life as a teacher/personal trainer/fitness competitor and until hitting 40 never paid much attention to the HUGE disparity between women’s and men’s health care. Once I hit 40, I started looking around at all the men my age getting put on hormones and becoming the BEST they’d ever been in life and seeing all my peers (and most women who hadn’t spent a lifetime in fitness like myself) disappearing. Even my own doctor doesn’t ever discuss hormones or perimenopause possibilities with me, but every single man I know over 30 has been put on testosterone and given ED meds without question. I’m happy for my male friends receiving this care, but we REALLY need to push the medical community to open their eyes to women’s needs as well.
For the past 5 years I have been “ trying “ to convince my gyno that I am perimenopauso. After this podcast I found my voice at 47 and I won’t settle till I get the relief i need! 🙏 Thank you.
"We are females - we are not little men with breasts and uteruses. We react differently to medications, diseases, disease burden...that has not been studied adequately."
I love both of these doctors and listen to them often. My only issue is Dr Haver interrupts SO much that it’s uncomfortable and we miss a lot of information through those moments. But Dr Huberman is such a gentleman Excellent episode!
At the age of 14, my father (God rests his soul) took me to the gym. I played youth sports, but didn't pick up any weights. Him, being an ex collegiate athlete, showed me how to resistance train. Now, at the ripe age of 48, going through peri-menopause, I greatly appreciate the training. I still train to this day, 2 to 3 times a week. 💪
I’m 52 and am so glad to see this. Dr. Haver is an amazing advocate for us. I just shared a book Mayo Clinic Press released last month on aging well for women. I love seeing more and more people talk about menopause and am on a mission to show younger women that getting older doesn’t have to be so scary. We got this! :)
Dr. Haver is blowing the lid off what is known about menopause and post menopause. As a 56 year old woman, I was completely unprepared for what I was going through particularly in post menopause. There wasn't any mainstream understanding of either in my experience. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around what is going on with my body. I am now advocating for myself with my PCP. She denied hormone replacement therapy at first and now she has done a 180 and after my thyroid is stabilized for 6 months, she said she is now on board. Dr. Haver has also helped me understand my recent diagnosis of hypothyroidism. It is the loss of estrogen that contributes to so many other disease processes. I hope she's right because she is one of the leaders in this new age of helping women. I am eternally grateful ❤
I have been waiting on this episode for such a long time. Not just for my sake but for my teenage daughters. The first symptoms of perimenopause hit you overnight, and no one explains or even brings out that maybe you're perimenopausal. The doctors see your elevated FSH and just shake it off saying you don't need HRT yet. My hope is that with all medical podcasts spreading the word on perimenopause, doctors educate themselves so we don't have to "shop" around for a doctor that will prescribe HRT.
@@dantopster Amongst many other things in which Drs are very obsolete... I take care of my body as much as I can so I don't have to see doctors (butchers businessmen) almost never. And I watch/read Andrew's and other very respectable people's content.
I just sent this podcast to a therapist (my daughter) who recently graduated yet did not learn anything about the effect of estradiol on mental health. This podcast will go beyond helping women as it will affect their family members, co-workers, employers, friends... I am so pleased that men listen to your podcasts and I already see in the comments that some have passed it onto their wives. Outstanding!
OMG YES!!!!! I’m 46 and in the middle of perimenopause. On HRT but still not able to get rid of my stubborn belly fat. I’ve been a fan of cold plunging and zone two plus intense exercise (basically doing things I hate to embrace the suck). Lately I’m hearing a lot of noise about how these practices may be counterproductive in the perimenopause years due to the cortisol. I’m so tired of all the conflicting info and optimistic this topic will be addressed on this podcast. If not, I know I will still get a lot out of it. Thank you!
Hi Maria, may I suggest trying a keto diet if you haven’t already. Reducing sugar & 3 x Pilates classes has given me my waist back and I’d say I’m more of a very low carb eater than strictly keto. I also feel so much better.
@@Great_Katethanks for the suggestion and I’m happy it works for you and makes you feel better! I’m not sure keto would be realistic or sustainable for me. I need something that also works for my lifestyle.
@@dantopsterif this is true then its definitely not a good fit for me. Based on all the chatter I’m hearing, my cortisol could be the reason for my issues with the belly fat🤷🏻♀️
@@dantopster hi Dan. No diet is a fit for all diet. I did keto for 3 weeks before realizing it’s not something I can strictly keep up with, but through it, I stopped eating complex carbohydrates and sugar to great benefit. Nobody needs the pasta, rice, potatoes and processed sugary foods daily.
hooray for the whole "menoposse" from this 57-year-old -- it's so infuriating how little has been known about basic women's health for SO long, and thank goodness for these doctors who are finally working so hard to turn that around!
This woman has changed my life and my level of proactivity toward my health. I’m so glad to be seeing a doctor who is also proactive in my perimenopause care.
Commenting before I even finish the pod- this is the dream team I have been waiting for and that everyone needs! Hormones for women as well as men need to be understood. This is such an excellent start!!
There many other things doctors dont know about like for example how to heal your gut , how to have natural birth at home , etc, doctors know about life and dead things, they deal with emergencies where they need to save someone's life, everything that falls out of that " high risk situation" umbrella, is not something they usually have any idea of
@@zoecoote3746 if you have a victim mentality where you believe you live in a society where nobody sees any value in you, this will happen because unknowingly you created it yourself. I live in France since 10 years and older women are very valued, many very famous actresses here are in their 50s. If you keep believing what society tells you to believe, and accepting that victimhood role then somehow you create it yourself. I know many older women very happy and loved. Dont contribute to darkness but fully buying into it and playing that role. When you assume a reality where nobody values you, you also create it. Maybe the US is a terrible place. But for what I see this doesnt happen at all in Europe
@@KabirSingh93327zoekoot did not create the reality that the majority of docs are NOT trained in how to manage perimenopause / menopause in med school. That rests with who sets the med school curriculum. Formal studies show that statistically mens complaints are taken much more seriously than women. Gender bias in medicine is well documented. Women take longer to get a correct diagnosis . Example: Bindi Irwin went to docs for 10 years before her very painful endometriosis was diagnosed
I’m 59, post menopausal almost 3 years now and I WISH this info was available to me in my mid-forties. I would be more metabolically healthy now if I knew then. Getting ultra processed food, sugar, folic acid and seed oils out of my life recently has completely changed the way I look at food and have been making much better choices with protein and fiber-rich foods.
Having these conversations with your average OB or GP goes nowhere for many of us. It’s very demoralizing but you can find your own answers through education and pay out of pocket for practitioners that are informed. It’s life changing information. You don’t have to suffer with mental health, body changes and pain.
I’m 42 and started perimenopause symptoms at 35. I’ve been watching/listening to Dr. Mary Claire for a couple of years now. After my first bout of brain fog coupled with anxiety(which I’ve never suffered from) I thought I was going mad. Then I started logging my symptoms: low labido, fatigue, I was getting thicker in my mid section, mood swings, hot flashes, brain fog, changes in my menses etc. It finally began to all add up what was going on and that I wasn’t crazy and that there was a shift in my body. Thank you helping to spread awareness.
thank you for this episode. I have followed Dr Marie for a while now. While I agree on a lot that she says, one thing I would like to bring to her attention is her dismissiveness with regards to the effect of the natural supplements. She may be seeing it from a bias point of view. Despite these supplements not being a replacement for HRT, I still think she needs to consider that they can have an effect. Personally I am very sensitive to chaste tree and soy. They can both disrupt my menstrual cycle immediately. I had a client on Reishi to increase her estrogen as she was heading for menopause, preferred natural solution and was hesitant to start HRT. She continued to mensturate (age 59) and the month she stopped reishi, she never mensurated again. While Dr Marie advocates funding for research on this topic, I think ALL aspects, including natural supplementation, should STILL be looked at. Because we actually need the data. Just like there wasn't enough data on HRT, its the exact same boat when it comes to natural supplements. She might say, Well Soy has no real affect, until some one like me uses soy for the first time, and then my cycle gets disrupted.
Agreed. I take a Chinese herbal supplement for menstruation and there’s no doubt that it helps relieve my symptoms and with blood circulation. I also found acupuncture helped, confirmed by improved blood flow. I have yet to begin menopause but have experienced the benefits of herbal supplements in the menses.
@andreabebterTWA Absolutely agree with you about natural supplements. Personally to me, any doc/researcher who’s into all sorts of synthetics while being dismissive of natural supplements is a red flag. Even from the start when she began with being “revolutionary” about the conventional “dating” of menopause it sounded like a gimmicky straw man: arguing from pathology is like arguing from marginal cases that no one denies, but which simply need special consideration while the general rule still applies. A logical fallacy (or sophistry). She hasn’t revealed anything particularly innovative or reconstructive or something I, personally, didn’t know. The fact that there are so many admirers in the comments as if she delivered some kind of revelation only strongly suggests how uninformed general public is. Natural supplements should be the 1st choice, just like life style changes etc. Not exogenous synthetic interventions.
Yes, Dr. Haver. Love her. Thank You for having her on. Love her for her honest, and practical professional information. She has made a positive difference in my life.
Yes the timing for initiation of HRT is important and a theory. There is a generation of women that were denied treatment and we want it NOW. The treatment will alleviate the symptoms and give us our best shot for prevention of long term disease.
Grateful to have this on the podcast as my wife is having lots of hot/ cold intense flashes and things have been going on for more than a year so it’s important for men with females in their lives to understand this information too! I am listening and learning for my benefit and my wife’s as well!! Thank you both for having this conversation !!!
@@constrainedvision Thank you but I feel more men should care, understand what their partner is going thru! Hopefully your husband will be more helpful!
@@constrainedvisionIf you don't have a supportive husband then maybe it's time to reevaluate why you're married. I did that. I'm not married anymore and I am a thousand times happier. It's much better over here
Why isn't she not listening and doing the research. Women need to prep years in advance. So late 30s.. you should be healthy and changing your diet and excercise after 36. I liken it to a car running out of oil.
Thank you for not dismissing the war of hormones we have as women. I have had arguments with men who say just eat under the calories and exercise. It’s not that simple. I currently am pumping and when I do so, my prolactin is very high and I struggle losing weight. Once I wean my weight starts to go down as I eat pretty clean and I’m sleeping better. And I cannot tell you how many women who hit menopause(my mom didn’t know about perimenopause!) so many things change.
You're right. It's not that simple. At least in the first few years, for me anyway, it's like I have hormonal bipolar. For months all I want to do is exercise. It is literally the only thing that keeps me together. I wake up early, I get everything done. I have endless energy. And then, all of a sudden, just when I feel like I could run a marathon, I'm out. I can't work out what to do - can't work out what weights to lift, can't understand how I found time to have done the exercise I'd been doing, can't even come up with a route to take on a walk!! It's all over the place. I've realised that neither is a sign of my will power (and I have been known as someone who has a LOT of it) or lack of will power. You could catch me during a good few months and think I'm breezing through perimenopause; or during a bad month, and think I'm useless. Both states are out of my control.
I am so grateful to you both for sharing your knowledge with us. I am an esthetician who works for a dermatologist. And the majority of our patients are elderly and there are so many things that they can do to improve, not only their skin health, but their general health but most people do not do because they don't know how to do it or know where to start. I am a 55 year old female I'm told I look like I'm in my 30s and people are constantly asking me how I look so young. I tell them I have lifted heavy weights since I was a teenager. I eat lots of protein. I get plenty of sleep and I do not drink alcohol. I get a lot of push back that for various reasons they cannot or will not do these things. Now I have somewhere to direct people and I have already in the past 3 days told 10 people to listen to this podcast because I can stress that the information comes from medical professionals and scientists. I cried listening to this knowing the impact this will have on so many people. So again a profound and sincere Thank You!!!
I’m 53 years old and I’ve been on BHRT for 20 years. My hormones tanked in my early 30s and I was relentless in finding a doctor that would listen to me and know what to do. It took me a while but I found someone and that person has literally saved my life. Now being on BHRT does not preclude you from weight gain as I’ve recently lost 50 pounds and gained muscle through lifestyle changes, but I am a huge advocate of BHRT and have been beating this drum for 20 years to anyone that will listen. Unfortunately, most of my family and friends who complain of symptoms, etc., won’t listen to me or even listen to a podcast like this. Dr. Haver knows what she’s talking about and I wish everyone would listen to her.❤
Thank you both. I am 53, in the middle of menopause and I made an appointment with my doctor this week. I'm taking control of my health and getting on HRT ASAP.
I was at that Menoposium in Chicago!!! Great panel of experts and I was thrilled to have the opportunity to meet Dr MCH and have her sign her newest book for me.
I had one of the guys from work tell me about this. I thought it was so lovely as he’s 30. They’re all seeing what I’m going through and being supportive and getting an education lol. This has me making an appointment to see my doctor about a patch. My flashes and sleep disruption has been diabolical. Thank you for this podcast. Thank you to these pioneering women who will make this life changing experience more positive, empowering and healthy. They are paving the way for our daughters to navigate this time and generations to come. ❤
Only issue I took was that it was difficult to follow Huberman's thoughts and questions, as the Dr was so quick to answer, she didnt let him finish (probably because she is very passionate about the topic!) Very grateful for the information though!
I sent this to every one of my female friends! I’ve never felt so validated in all my 57 years. I thought there was something wrong with me, until I finally found a practitioner who was educated in the menopausal woman and HRT.
I’ve been studying aging as it relates to my own situation, for about 6 months, including becoming a fan girl of Dr. Haver. I am 69 and am the poster child for bad info since my late 30s. But, I have had an easy transition and almost no symptoms (other than onset of anxiety at age 50, treated with SSRIs) so it hasn’t been a big deal. About 2 years ago the shit hit the fan, weight gain for no good reason: body weakness, intense fatigue, and general malaise. I now have listened to this twice and will take my new found knowledge to my doc as I begin the HRT. I hope I’m not too late. I am seeing success in many friends (younger) and hope to regain strength and joy and fit in my fabulous clothes so I can go down the path into my 70s, 80s and 90s. My mom is 99 so I likely need to plan for the next 30. Thank you, Dr. Huberman, for being my girl, Dr. MaryClaire, to your show. I’ll be sharing rigorously! And Dr MC? Let’s get together and laugh at our own jokes! 😊
Listening to the Huberman podcast with Dr Haver and saw your comment. I'm 62 and wondering if I'm too old to start HRT. Were you able to get a prescription for estrogen?
Ask me how many times I have been dismissed as "depressed" or "it's in your head" only to find out....years later I have hypothyroidism and other hormonal imbalances 😔 Made me feel defeated,lonely, a little insane so I avoided (stopped going) doctors for decades. Still don't trust them but I do check ups and I advocate for my health now. We should not "fight" with the medical professionals we should be allies. Nobody wins if we don't change the status quo of women's health. Thank you for this
I am so happy that this topic is getting more attention. The current and future generations will benefit greatly with having WELL mothers, grandmothers, great grandmothers, Aunts, sisters etc..WOMAN in their lives. Thank you!🎉
Haver has been instrumental in my perimenopaus journey. Was able to have conversations with my obgyn and find the right hormone therapy, as well following her advice on supplements, movement, sleep hygiene, and nutrition. Changed my life. Forever grateful ❤
Crucial information for anyone going through peri/ meno, so thank you guys for such a valuable podcast. Little stressful to listen to mind you, as she kept speaking over Dr. Hub and not letting him finish sentences.. drives me insane! Hope you don’t mind the honest feedback.
Mary Claire Haver is amazing. Thank you so much for having her on. She truly is the most educated, passionate and knowledgeable person that I’ve ever listened to on women’s health. Thank you for this podcast ❤
THANK YOU for having Dr Haver on! I’ve downloaded this podcast to listen during my daily 30-40 minute outside walk(live in Wyoming so constantly losing cell signal on the back 40)! I LOVE her honesty, frankness, lamen explanations for us all to learn and understand. While females are supposed to keep the human race going; it seems that’s the only piece health organizations have ever cared about. NOT what we have to endure after our body is done with that chapter.
I love Dr. Haver! Im a 43 year old woman in Peri-menopause. I just discovered all the wonderful information she has to offer, and it couldn't of come into my life at a better time.
WELL DONE PROF HUBERMAN!!! Thank you soooo much for considering us older women!! Thanks for Dr Haver for all your work on this very important and under researched topic!!!
In my mid 50’s my doctor refused to prescribe more HRT because it was directly related to increased risk of breast cancer. If only we knew then what we learned now from Dr Haver. Thank you 😢
Have watched all your videos online and I found this one most related to as a 48 yr old woman. This is almost the best interview of Dr Haver among all she did. Thank you very much both of you.
Again.....thank you for this episode. I'm 60 years old.......... been fighting so hard about stuff for 20 years!!!!! Still going through a lot. Dr. Mary......please keep doing what you are doing. I may have a granddaughter someday. Knowledge is power!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to thank everyone involved in making the Huberman podcast possible It has been a life changer not for just me, but everyone I meet who has also found this podcast.
Thank you for discussing this topic! As a pelvic health physical therapist, I see a lot of women with MSK dysfunction secondary to menopause and perimenopause. I can’t wait to pass this information along. Much needed discussion!
I'm going to see a pelvic PT in a few weeks for this very upsetting bladder issue. I wondered if it was related to menopause which I'm right there but just had another period after 8 months of none. Ugghhh!
So grateful that Dr. Mary Claire Haver is leading this movement which empowers women to make the most informed decision for herself in regard to HRT and women's health. I am 58 and on HRT and probably wouldn't have even considered it, if not for her and menopause Barbie (let's not forget her!). Amazing podcast!
Thanks Doctors! Im 48 and no clear diagnosis of perimenopause or menopause, but so many symptoms that you spoke about. I now feel prepared for my next gyno visit.
Thank you for having this doctor speak about HRT - Dr Felice Gersh is also an amazing Hormone Expert and provides an additional method such as pulsing progesterone a Recommends a higher hormone dosage- she says the higher dosage will make a difference in a woman’s bones and brain and heart. This lady has changed my life !
Thank you for having such important support for women on your podcast Dr. Huberman. We are all better because of these important conversations & resources. Dr. Leslie Korn from Harvard is someone I would personally love to hear you interview as well. SO grateful!
I never comment on UA-cam videos, but Dr Huberman, this one was life changing for me, a 48 year old woman. I’ve had 2 children and regular gyn appointments, but no PCP has ever really addressed my fatigue as a potential peri-menopausal symptom. Because I am of healthy weight and still having regular periods they always look to anemia or thyroid-which both turn out fine in blood tests. Thank you to Dr Haver for giving listeners vital information and resources for this major (and poorly understood) transition in every woman’s life.
I thought I was going crazy but now I know it's probably perimenopause...as soon as I turned 34 I stopped sleeping, have tried literally everything (aside from Rx) and have found no cure, and can basically tick off every single other symptom Dr Haver has listed in this and the DOAC episode. Grateful that I now have this information to approach my doctor with.
Thanks for this one. I didn’t get to have the conversation with my mom before I lost her. I know that would have saved me a lot of grief. Thanks for all you do Andrew.
65 took HRT til 59 recommended to stop for health reasons now having “symptoms” after hearing Mary I now have made an appt to seek HRT once again Wow glad I came across this discussion again
I’ve had breast cancer at a young age (37) and now when I talk to doctors about helping me with my perimenopause symptoms, they tell me they can’t help me because HRT isn’t for people who’ve had hormone based breast cancer. But listening to this podcast it makes me question this line of thought. It would be good to get clarity.
You can use bio identicals and localised Estradiol. Don't listen to people whom have no knowledge. You also need to change your diet and supplement with high quality vitamins and minerals. Excercise such as walking /pilates/sprinting for short amounts of time. Some yoga and swimming in the sea or ocean if possible.
I am so glad to see this doctor on your site. She is and has saved me so very much while I was in peri and now in menopause. I shared her information with my gynocologist who is surprisingly still so old fashioned. Doctors off all practices need to educate themselves CONSTANTLY!! Enjoyed having two very respected people in their fields sharing this topic.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This was an excellent episode. As a 42-yr-old who is experiencing symptoms of perimenopause, I've been trying to bring awareness because I've had palpitations, night sweats, anxiety, etc. I will refer folks to this podcast and Dr. Mary Claire Haver to my friends far and wide. This is such an encouragement, and I hope more research will be done in this area.
Can't thank you enough for creating this episode! I had a long, hard road struggling to find medical support and answers on my own 'menopause journey'. Finally, life is sooo much better with HRT, which I also plan to take for many years. The work of MDs like Dr. Mary Haver are invaluable in educating female patients who are in need of informations and solutions, as well as the medical community that is supposed to be supporting them. I have high hopes that this life transition will not be so brutal for future generations of women.
33:06 - Amen. Having endured a stillbirth, an ectopic pregnancy resulting in the loss of my fallopian tube, an emergency C-section and premature birth of my living daughter, four miscarriages, and a second C-section resulting in the live birth of my second daughter, as well as learning through all of that that I have a mild blood clotting disorder, by the time I was 40 and had already used the pill and an IUD to prevent pregnancy in my 20s, I was not going to endure one more intervention - so my husband got a vasectomy. Easiest thing ever.
My journey has been similar to you❤ and my man recently did the same! I am very happy you can now rest from the trauma, stress and anxiety of getting pregnant. I will pray for healing and a wonderful life with your daughters for you.
@@muchadoaboutkovu thank you! Now that I'm more than a decade past that time in my life, I can look back and am extremely grateful that my daughters got through the gauntlet that is my uterus. I hope that you were also able to build a family, and for many happy years to come.
I cannot thank you both enough. About to turn 53 and went through horrible hot flashes. Thank goodness for a low estrogen and progesterone protocol, my hot flashes went away within a week and my memory got better.
Good Lord I feel validated! The statement of hormone replacement v SSRIs: I was on SSRIs in my early 30s. In my early 40s I FINALLY got a deep dive hormone panel. No more SSRIs and pursued HRT, and never looked back. I tell any woman I know experiencing issues, to at least get their hormones looked at by an experienced endo!
Amazing content! Thank you! Wish she didn’t interrupt him on 90% of the questions and statements he was inputting. Let the man finish his sentence PLEASE!
I cannot thank you two enough. I have now watched this through 3 x. Once by myself - mouth open surprised at the info I was hearing. Second time with my wonderful husband, I was in tears hearing about the symptoms I've been dealing with for the last few years but had never gotten checked out, didn't realize there were possible solutions. Finally finished the 3rd time today, making so many notes to look up things I don't understand and determined to find a doctor who will help me optimize this journey to get me feeling back to myself. Blessings.
35 and it all hit me like a freight train. Quit my job due to crippling anxiety. Vertigo, fatigue, hot flashes, cycle changes. I found Dr. haver and sought help. HRT is making me feel 20 again. Normalized my cycle completely also. Just started testosterone cream and its helping so much. Have been on progesterone for 7 months.
I had all the usual symptoms of menopause (hot flashes, night sweats, can’t sleep, etc) but also I had horrible aching joints, especially my knees. HRT fixed all of this, plus an eyelid twitch that had gone on for two years continuously. I feel like a million bucks since starting HRT. Also, all my blood tests (cholesterol, hba1c, etc) are all very improved, and I lost 20 pounds. My doctor is totally blown away. Like Marie Claire, I plan to die with my HRT patch on.
this is so wonderful to hear. May I ask what HRT protocol you take? I have an appointment coming up in the next week. I hope to have the same success as you.
My mum had terrible menopause symptoms, she turned into an absolute dragon and was horrible for almost 5 years. I was dreading this and when I started peri-menopause, the hot flashes, interrupted sleep and mood swings were starting to be an issue when I changed to a very low carb diet to solve bad teeth issues. My menopause symptoms stopped immediately and never came back! Low carb transitioned to carnivore and I've been mostly carnivore for 5 years now, I still can't believe how it eliminated all my menopause (and many other) issues.
as a hyper-focused self-aware 50 yr old biological female--I believe nutrition and exercise greatly impact and can ease the symptoms.. Love this episode. She has filled some gaps e.g. to include endocrinology weave its way into my contemplation as I continue on my peri-menopausal 'journey'. Love! Love! I have been a huge fan since your very first episode. sign me up for the groupy club
That was an amazingly informative episode!… I am 37 and in the past 6 months- 1 year, have started experiencing several symptoms mentioned here relating to perimenopause. I felt like I am too young to be entering that phase of my life, but based on the information in this video, I understand that this may be what I am experiencing. There were so many useful tidbits I can use. I feel much more validated and educated by watching this, so thank you very much, Dr. Huberman, for choosing to explore this topic! ❤
Same. I started experiencing symptoms at 36 and am grateful my OBGYN basically mentioned perimenopause. I'm actively looking for a menopause specific provider because I'm determined to navigate this phase of my life with the best shot of health into my golden years.
You can change your lifestyle and take good supplements. Get off meds and even the pill. I wonder did you take that injection in 21? Peri does last 10-12 years.
Watching my mom go through menopause it was clear she was struggling so much. Mentally and physically. I can tell you she did not received half of the information about perimenopause and menopause that is in this video. She just felt it was her, something was wrong with her. When in fact so many women go through it but it's not talked about enough. I am trying to learn all I can now to better my health during that period of my life. I really appreciate doctors like them for providing free information about this topic.
As a nurse, I would have appreciated the conversation more if MCH would have let Huberman finish his thoughts before she answered him. It’s a tad distracting as I wanted to hear his full thought. But I do watch both channels and enjoy her knowledge on the subject as I am in perimenopause.
I think about how many marriages end in divorce during these years possibly related to these symptoms. So much more research and advocacy is needed to help families navigate this. Thank you Dr. MARY and Dr. HUBERMAN!
What did menopause look like throughout human evolution as compared to today? Did we always lose estrogen at today's rate, and we just suffered through the symptoms? Do women of indigenous tribes have different menopause experiences?
These are the questions we need to be asking. Is HRT necessary to relieve the very real and devastating characteristics (symptoms sounds too “sick” for a natural process) of peri/post menopause?
@lenkabosma5629 Good question, I believe so based on what I have read about human evolution and the role of grandmother's in hunter gatherers tribes (Daniel Lieberman), but I would love an expert to answer this.
@@bethanydueweke7492if considering the Grandmother hypothesis re why human females continued living beyond reproductive capability, it’s also worth considering that the likely age of ancient grandmothers (and not so ancient grandmothers) became grandmothers as young as mid-30’s, so typical human life span could still have been appx age 50ish. Given that average life span of humans (at least in wealthier countries easily exceeds 20+ years what has historically been the case, humans are only very recently in a whole other era of life span. Therefore it makes sense that women in our current era might need HRT to extend their life span-just as men and women beyond age 50 may take any number of medications to extend life span and we think nothing of it. Saying that women before 20th century just got through perimenopause/menopause “naturally” grossly overlooks the much lower average life spans of men and women up to the 20th century and the role of medical interventions and innovations, including HRT, that made longer average life spans possible.
I think about this all the time. I think we were meant to stop our periods but not to suffer the way we are now. There are so many toxins in our world that are so disrupting. I could say so much but it would be a book! The good thing is we have learned so much in the last 10 years and I believe that will continue.
I had a friend who was 62 & still had her menstrual cycle She was very careful about eating healthy and worked out on a regular basis I was in my 30s then Now I’m in my 40 s about to enter my 50 s and I’m very healthy. I use all natural products to stop night sweats which is the only symptom I sometimes get. Eat healthy, work out, and have a healthy friend-family support system is working for me
I quit drinking at 49, wend keto/carnivore at 50 and hit 12 month without a period this year (54). I did not have one single symptom of menopause that she mentions - no hot flashes, irritability or brain fog, etc. And no weight gain.
She talked about diet several times and protein/collagen. Every woman should give up drinking especially after 35. You had good health before your 50s. It helps considerably.
This podcast gives me hope. I am 43 and experiencing perimenopausal symptoms. I thought I was going crazy! I almost cried from relief when I heard Dr. Haver describe some of the symptoms. With this info and some more research, I feel like I can advocate for myself.
Thank you Dr. Huberman for doing this crucial episode for all women. THANK YOU for not dismissing us. I am a Nurse & have not been acknowledged by my practitioners for help with & through menopause. I feel for my lay sisters even more. Dr. Haver is the generational expert & as she says, we need more education beginning in medical school & continuing education for practitioners.
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Great episode on such an important issue. Please please please make one on PCOS!
Thank you Andrew❤
I'm really disappointed in this discussion. It comes off as an infomercial for the following reasons: 1) HRT is still experimental. 2) she sells HRT at her clinic/sells books. 3) VERY IMPORTANT: NO disclosure of reports correlating HRT with subsequent uterine cancers, breast cancers, strokes, clotting.
How convenient all that data is not disclosed. Guess it doesn't help with the "selling points" to promote HRT. The majority of symptoms are directly related to minimal exercise, alcohol use, eating processed foods, lots of sugar/candy. Not to mention years and years of hormonal birth control use and how that disrupts a woman's body at menopause. Be honest. Do a FULL disclosure. There are international clinical studies with disastrous results re HRT. Do your research.
So critical! I’m so happy that younger woman will not suffer as I did because Dr. Haver and Dr. Huberman are educating us! I had PCOS, fibroids, endometriosis, pituitary tumor, migraines, and killer periods. By my own research, I did bio identical hormones with a nurse practitioner after surgical menopause. At 68, I still do low levels of estrogen, but I have to fight for it every year with my insurance company.
@@christinat.7264 she actually addresses these concerns repeatedly
Easily one of your most important episodes. Women are so under-served, dismissed, neglected, and denied by their physicians once child bearing years are ending/ over.
And before that to be honest.
And during child bearing years to be honest.
The amount of obstetric abuse that goes on in antenatal clinics, delivery rooms and maternity wards, and the absolute dismissal of pain management is obscene.
Totally agree, women are rarely prepared and taught about any of the major changes and transformations they go through in life. Even childbirth, we are only told the nice and positive things to look forward too but no one tells you what to expect after and all the changes your body and mind go through. We need more and more episodes to break the stigma about women's health and bodies.
Well said.
Yes!!!
This is truly Andrew Huberman at his finest - so respectful, asking highly informed questions and such a great listener. This is why he's so successful!
I totally agree. Kudos Andrew.😃🤙
He is amazing!
50+ year old male…..listened to every minute for my wife I will share with her and all my friends. Thank you for this AH and Dr. Claire.
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Good man
Same here--in our 40s--I hollered at my wife "Hey, honey, I'm going to become a quasi-expert this week in perimenopause, menopause, & vitality for women's health" 🤙 In our 20s I studied how to thrive in our 30s, then 40s, and now looking at 50s; always learning, always an adventure, and much easier with resources like this 😊
You rock !🙏
@@CWReid❤
You are a very good man! Your wife is lucky to have you ❤️
I watched Dr. Mary Claire Haver previously and was so impressed that I started talking with my wife about the topic, asking questions and relating what I had learned. Now she is taking HRT and talking with her girlfriends about this a lot. She is clearly perimenopausal at 50 but very fit, athletic and concerned with her nutrition so she is not relying exclusively on the HRT. Her friends are all at different stages but the fact they are now talking about it seems very beneficial. So as a husband, providing a safe place to discuss how she is feeling and being supportive in her search for answers, can make a huge difference in my experience.
You get a gold star for being a supportive husband!
You're a fantastic husband, mine doesn't have a clue about this .
Do you have a brother?!? 😉
You are a great man and husband just because of this one choice to listen. I am sure your wife appreciate the love! 😊
@@villagefarang you are the best!!!
30 year old male and listened to every minute.
Bless your heart. ❤
Thank you!
Wonderful man!!!
23 here!!!! This is so revolutionary and good to know as a prevention!! Glad to have found this podcast :)
I'm impressed!
As a daughter of a 47 yo, I'm so blessed to have this as a tool to share with my mom as she has begun to experience perimenopause. Thank you doctors for the generosity ❤
You are a good daughter. ❤
Great episode! I had a hysterectomy and oophorectomy at age 23. Doctors tried to take me off estrogen supplements several times, claiming high risks. Once it became available, I was on transdermal (FemRing was by far the best, but as noted by Dr. Haver, too pricy), so felt my risks were low, and would just find new doctors who would prescribe it. Life with it is challenging (still have many symptoms of menopause), but without was impossible. I’m now 73 -- no cancer, no clots. great bone density and cardiac health, waist to hip ratio 0.76, no meds other than the estrogen patch. For my entire adult life, I’ve exercised, consumed a moderately high protein diet (80 to 120 grams/day), quality fats, fruits and vegetables, etc. A healthy, active lifestyle makes all the difference in how we age, even with the challenge of 50 years of menopause.
I love this! Way to take charge of your health. Thank you for sharing your 40 year experience.
Amazing!
Thank you so much for your input here! Did I understand correctly that you are still using the estrogen patch in your 70s? I wonder if my mom should consider this....her mood swings are off the charts (she's 68).
You did an incredible job taking care of yourself! ❤ thanks for sharing!
@@adelitahinojosa-martin7846 Yes, I’m still on it, and doing very well. There’s some concern about women starting on it later in life (seems safer to start early and stay on if no side effects), but it’s something she should discuss with an open minded and well educated menopause doc.
Every woman should listen to this, my wife went through menopause in her late 30’s , she’s now 56 and a recent bone scan showed she has the bone density of a 74 year old!. As a bodybuilder of 30 plus years she’s finally listened to my advice of resistance training being the elixir for life and makes you hard to kill.
Get her metal tested. You will only find that type of testing at a naturopathic dr. I had osteopenia a few years ago and I was in my early 40s. After a long metal detox protocol, my bone density became normal.
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😮😊 Thanks to Huberman, I learned about Sarah Gottfried. She has a food first method, so you might want to look into that too. I don't know, just a thought since she knows alot about women's health!
I'm a 57 year old who has weight trained heavy for years and it really is amazing for keeping the symptoms at bay, but still the aching and weight gain is real.
How much weight should women be lifting?
Oh my gosh. It is basically an emergency that EVERY doctor watches this and begins the path to learn. As a woman I am praying Mary will be able to continue the research on all of this and get more and more physicians to learn.
What's scary to me is how many doctors are practicing in the field and don't have a clue.
I just graduated as an FNP. I will be giving HRT.
I have been on TRT and HRT for about 18 mos (late 40s) and they have been complete game changers for my mental health (will to live ❤), physical health (muscle maintenance/visceral fat loss, sleep!!), engineering career, relationships... all the things. It's criminal that this essential knowledge and care requires a fight with so many doctors.... I'm blessed to be persistent and a strong self advocate who is not afraid to fire a doctor and find a new one.
Is this your regular obgyn?
Yes gurl...get it! 💪
no, my ob-gyn was woefully uneducated (even at the Cleveland clinic!!) I pay out of pocket to see a women's health MD that I found in the NAMS directory. my insurance covers HRT, not TRT, and my blood tests are covered (but not Dutch testing)
For decades I worried something was seriously wrong with me because of the fluctuations in my mood. EVERY healthcare provider I saw recommended antidepressants & mood stabilizers, reinforcing that fear. I did everything my docs (OB/Gyn, PCP, Psy) told me and continued to struggle - until I found HRT. I try not to think about all the time, energy & money I spent on meds and CBT. I might otherwise have gotten my own phd, or a nicer condo in the city, or been a better friend and family member. Dr H - please keep pushing for better representation in medical education and research!
Me too sister. You would have to pry my HRT out of my cold, dead hands. What a difference it made.
It's so frustrating wasting time down the wrong path. We live and learn. We can now do better, because we know better.
Hello please share what changes in mood you experienced with HRT 🙏
This episode is so important. I’ve spent my life as a teacher/personal trainer/fitness competitor and until hitting 40 never paid much attention to the HUGE disparity between women’s and men’s health care. Once I hit 40, I started looking around at all the men my age getting put on hormones and becoming the BEST they’d ever been in life and seeing all my peers (and most women who hadn’t spent a lifetime in fitness like myself) disappearing. Even my own doctor doesn’t ever discuss hormones or perimenopause possibilities with me, but every single man I know over 30 has been put on testosterone and given ED meds without question. I’m happy for my male friends receiving this care, but we REALLY need to push the medical community to open their eyes to women’s needs as well.
For the past 5 years I have been “ trying “ to convince my gyno that I am perimenopauso. After this podcast I found my voice at 47 and I won’t settle till I get the relief i need! 🙏 Thank you.
"We are females - we are not little men with breasts and uteruses. We react differently to medications, diseases, disease burden...that has not been studied adequately."
The Most UNDERRATED Comment & Post, ever!🫡
I love both of these doctors and listen to them often.
My only issue is Dr Haver interrupts SO much that it’s uncomfortable and we miss a lot of information through those moments.
But Dr Huberman is such a gentleman
Excellent episode!
Thought it was just me! He has soooo much patience!! If I didn’t want to know the info so bad, I wouldn’t have kept listening!
At the age of 14, my father (God rests his soul) took me to the gym. I played youth sports, but didn't pick up any weights. Him, being an ex collegiate athlete, showed me how to resistance train. Now, at the ripe age of 48, going through peri-menopause, I greatly appreciate the training. I still train to this day, 2 to 3 times a week. 💪
I’m 52 and am so glad to see this. Dr. Haver is an amazing advocate for us. I just shared a book Mayo Clinic Press released last month on aging well for women. I love seeing more and more people talk about menopause and am on a mission to show younger women that getting older doesn’t have to be so scary. We got this! :)
Dr. Haver’s books and information has changed my life at 53 and has given me hope that I can age gracefully and with good health.
Dr. Haver is blowing the lid off what is known about menopause and post menopause. As a 56 year old woman, I was completely unprepared for what I was going through particularly in post menopause. There wasn't any mainstream understanding of either in my experience. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around what is going on with my body. I am now advocating for myself with my PCP. She denied hormone replacement therapy at first and now she has done a 180 and after my thyroid is stabilized for 6 months, she said she is now on board. Dr. Haver has also helped me understand my recent diagnosis of hypothyroidism. It is the loss of estrogen that contributes to so many other disease processes. I hope she's right because she is one of the leaders in this new age of helping women. I am eternally grateful ❤
My favourite 2 people in the world of podcasts have come together. 52 and so appreciative ❤️
Came here to say exactly this! 🥰🥰
I have been waiting on this episode for such a long time. Not just for my sake but for my teenage daughters. The first symptoms of perimenopause hit you overnight, and no one explains or even brings out that maybe you're perimenopausal. The doctors see your elevated FSH and just shake it off saying you don't need HRT yet.
My hope is that with all medical podcasts spreading the word on perimenopause, doctors educate themselves so we don't have to "shop" around for a doctor that will prescribe HRT.
Agree. I had to fire a few doctors before finding one who would prescribe HRT. The amount of doctors with obsolete knowledge of menopause is shocking.
@@dantopster Amongst many other things in which Drs are very obsolete... I take care of my body as much as I can so I don't have to see doctors (butchers businessmen) almost never. And I watch/read Andrew's and other very respectable people's content.
I just sent this podcast to a therapist (my daughter) who recently graduated yet did not learn anything about the effect of estradiol on mental health. This podcast will go beyond helping women as it will affect their family members, co-workers, employers, friends... I am so pleased that men listen to your podcasts and I already see in the comments that some have passed it onto their wives. Outstanding!
OMG YES!!!!! I’m 46 and in the middle of perimenopause. On HRT but still not able to get rid of my stubborn belly fat. I’ve been a fan of cold plunging and zone two plus intense exercise (basically doing things I hate to embrace the suck). Lately I’m hearing a lot of noise about how these practices may be counterproductive in the perimenopause years due to the cortisol. I’m so tired of all the conflicting info and optimistic this topic will be addressed on this podcast.
If not, I know I will still get a lot out of it. Thank you!
Hi Maria, may I suggest trying a keto diet if you haven’t already. Reducing sugar & 3 x Pilates classes has given me my waist back and I’d say I’m more of a very low carb eater than strictly keto. I also feel so much better.
@@Great_Kate Keto is not a fit for all diet. It increases cortisol in women which can be counterproductive to losing belly fat.
@@Great_Katethanks for the suggestion and I’m happy it works for you and makes you feel better! I’m not sure keto would be realistic or sustainable for me. I need something that also works for my lifestyle.
@@dantopsterif this is true then its definitely not a good fit for me. Based on all the chatter I’m hearing, my cortisol could be the reason for my issues with the belly fat🤷🏻♀️
@@dantopster hi Dan. No diet is a fit for all diet. I did keto for 3 weeks before realizing it’s not something I can strictly keep up with, but through it, I stopped eating complex carbohydrates and sugar to great benefit. Nobody needs the pasta, rice, potatoes and processed sugary foods daily.
hooray for the whole "menoposse" from this 57-year-old -- it's so infuriating how little has been known about basic women's health for SO long, and thank goodness for these doctors who are finally working so hard to turn that around!
This woman has changed my life and my level of proactivity toward my health. I’m so glad to be seeing a doctor who is also proactive in my perimenopause care.
I love listening to people who are really passionate about what they do talk about it. She literally could NOT wait to share everything. Amazing.
Totally 😂 Huberman couldn't even finish his question or statement and she just knows and unloads her knowledge, incredible.
Commenting before I even finish the pod- this is the dream team I have been waiting for and that everyone needs! Hormones for women as well as men need to be understood. This is such an excellent start!!
It is insulting and ridiculous how little most doctors know or care about menopause.
It is very telling of the value ( or lack of it ) of women as they age in western society .
There many other things doctors dont know about like for example how to heal your gut , how to have natural birth at home , etc, doctors know about life and dead things, they deal with emergencies where they need to save someone's life, everything that falls out of that " high risk situation" umbrella, is not something they usually have any idea of
@@zoecoote3746 if you have a victim mentality where you believe you live in a society where nobody sees any value in you, this will happen because unknowingly you created it yourself.
I live in France since 10 years and older women are very valued, many very famous actresses here are in their 50s.
If you keep believing what society tells you to believe, and accepting that victimhood role then somehow you create it yourself.
I know many older women very happy and loved.
Dont contribute to darkness but fully buying into it and playing that role.
When you assume a reality where nobody values you, you also create it.
Maybe the US is a terrible place. But for what I see this doesnt happen at all in Europe
Yes it is!! 65 & taking HRT for the first time- not a single medical professional suggested it, ever. It’s a game changer!
@@KabirSingh93327zoekoot did not create the reality that the majority of docs are NOT trained in how to manage perimenopause / menopause in med school. That rests with who sets the med school curriculum. Formal studies show that statistically mens complaints are taken much more seriously than women. Gender bias in medicine is well documented. Women take longer to get a correct diagnosis . Example: Bindi Irwin went to docs for 10 years before her very painful endometriosis was diagnosed
I’m 59, post menopausal almost 3 years now and I WISH this info was available to me in my mid-forties. I would be more metabolically healthy now if I knew then. Getting ultra processed food, sugar, folic acid and seed oils out of my life recently has completely changed the way I look at food and have been making much better choices with protein and fiber-rich foods.
Having these conversations with your average OB or GP goes nowhere for many of us. It’s very demoralizing but you can find your own answers through education and pay out of pocket for practitioners that are informed. It’s life changing information. You don’t have to suffer with mental health, body changes and pain.
I’m 42 and started perimenopause symptoms at 35. I’ve been watching/listening to Dr. Mary Claire for a couple of years now. After my first bout of brain fog coupled with anxiety(which I’ve never suffered from) I thought I was going mad. Then I started logging my symptoms: low labido, fatigue, I was getting thicker in my mid section, mood swings, hot flashes, brain fog, changes in my menses etc. It finally began to all add up what was going on and that I wasn’t crazy and that there was a shift in my body. Thank you helping to spread awareness.
Same here , i don’t feel same anymore
thank you for this episode. I have followed Dr Marie for a while now. While I agree on a lot that she says, one thing I would like to bring to her attention is her dismissiveness with regards to the effect of the natural supplements. She may be seeing it from a bias point of view. Despite these supplements not being a replacement for HRT, I still think she needs to consider that they can have an effect. Personally I am very sensitive to chaste tree and soy. They can both disrupt my menstrual cycle immediately. I had a client on Reishi to increase her estrogen as she was heading for menopause, preferred natural solution and was hesitant to start HRT. She continued to mensturate (age 59) and the month she stopped reishi, she never mensurated again. While Dr Marie advocates funding for research on this topic, I think ALL aspects, including natural supplementation, should STILL be looked at. Because we actually need the data. Just like there wasn't enough data on HRT, its the exact same boat when it comes to natural supplements. She might say, Well Soy has no real affect, until some one like me uses soy for the first time, and then my cycle gets disrupted.
Absolutely thank you for raising these important points 👏🏽❤️
Totally agree
Agreed. I take a Chinese herbal supplement for menstruation and there’s no doubt that it helps relieve my symptoms and with blood circulation. I also found acupuncture helped, confirmed by improved blood flow. I have yet to begin menopause but have experienced the benefits of herbal supplements in the menses.
Yes! Simple flaxseed stopped my hot flashes. I still have so the other issues but still its good to know if that is your main symptom.
@andreabebterTWA
Absolutely agree with you about natural supplements. Personally to me, any doc/researcher who’s into all sorts of synthetics while being dismissive of natural supplements is a red flag.
Even from the start when she began with being “revolutionary” about the conventional “dating” of menopause it sounded like a gimmicky straw man: arguing from pathology is like arguing from marginal cases that no one denies, but which simply need special consideration while the general rule still applies. A logical fallacy (or sophistry).
She hasn’t revealed anything particularly innovative or reconstructive or something I, personally, didn’t know. The fact that there are so many admirers in the comments as if she delivered some kind of revelation only strongly suggests how uninformed general public is.
Natural supplements should be the 1st choice, just like life style changes etc. Not exogenous synthetic interventions.
Yes, Dr. Haver. Love her. Thank You for having her on. Love her for her honest, and practical professional information. She has made a positive difference in my life.
Yes the timing for initiation of HRT is important and a theory. There is a generation of women that were denied treatment and we want it NOW. The treatment will alleviate the symptoms and give us our best shot for prevention of long term disease.
What age should I start HRT to prevent any effects?
@@danivais When you’re in perimenopause. So they say. Or within 10 years after periods end.
Grateful to have this on the podcast as my wife is having lots of hot/ cold intense flashes and things have been going on for more than a year so it’s important for men with females in their lives to understand this information too! I am listening and learning for my benefit and my wife’s as well!! Thank you both for having this conversation !!!
I can't even tell mine that I'm going through it. 😒 Your wife is very lucky.
@@constrainedvision Thank you but I feel more men should care, understand what their partner is going thru! Hopefully your husband will be more helpful!
@@constrainedvisionIf you don't have a supportive husband then maybe it's time to reevaluate why you're married. I did that. I'm not married anymore and I am a thousand times happier. It's much better over here
Why isn't she not listening and doing the research. Women need to prep years in advance. So late 30s.. you should be healthy and changing your diet and excercise after 36. I liken it to a car running out of oil.
Thank you for not dismissing the war of hormones we have as women. I have had arguments with men who say just eat under the calories and exercise. It’s not that simple. I currently am pumping and when I do so, my prolactin is very high and I struggle losing weight. Once I wean my weight starts to go down as I eat pretty clean and I’m sleeping better. And I cannot tell you how many women who hit menopause(my mom didn’t know about perimenopause!) so many things change.
You're right. It's not that simple. At least in the first few years, for me anyway, it's like I have hormonal bipolar. For months all I want to do is exercise. It is literally the only thing that keeps me together. I wake up early, I get everything done. I have endless energy. And then, all of a sudden, just when I feel like I could run a marathon, I'm out. I can't work out what to do - can't work out what weights to lift, can't understand how I found time to have done the exercise I'd been doing, can't even come up with a route to take on a walk!! It's all over the place. I've realised that neither is a sign of my will power (and I have been known as someone who has a LOT of it) or lack of will power. You could catch me during a good few months and think I'm breezing through perimenopause; or during a bad month, and think I'm useless. Both states are out of my control.
I am so grateful to you both for sharing your knowledge with us. I am an esthetician who works for a dermatologist. And the majority of our patients are elderly and there are so many things that they can do to improve, not only their skin health, but their general health but most people do not do because they don't know how to do it or know where to start. I am a 55 year old female I'm told I look like I'm in my 30s and people are constantly asking me how I look so young. I tell them I have lifted heavy weights since I was a teenager. I eat lots of protein. I get plenty of sleep and I do not drink alcohol.
I get a lot of push back that for various reasons they cannot or will not do these things. Now I have somewhere to direct people and I have already in the past 3 days told 10 people to listen to this podcast because I can stress that the information comes from medical professionals and scientists. I cried listening to this knowing the impact this will have on so many people. So again a profound and sincere Thank You!!!
Outstanding guest - Dr. Haver is the G.O.A.T. of women’s health.
Fantastic episode!! I’m 62 and have learned more about menopause in this podcast than I have in the past 10 years. 👍🏽
I'm 62 and had my last period at age 53. Is HRT an option for our age, do you know?
I also would like to know the answer to this.
I’m 53 years old and I’ve been on BHRT for 20 years. My hormones tanked in my early 30s and I was relentless in finding a doctor that would listen to me and know what to do. It took me a while but I found someone and that person has literally saved my life. Now being on BHRT does not preclude you from weight gain as I’ve recently lost 50 pounds and gained muscle through lifestyle changes, but I am a huge advocate of BHRT and have been beating this drum for 20 years to anyone that will listen. Unfortunately, most of my family and friends who complain of symptoms, etc., won’t listen to me or even listen to a podcast like this. Dr. Haver knows what she’s talking about and I wish everyone would listen to her.❤
Thank you both. I am 53, in the middle of menopause and I made an appointment with my doctor this week. I'm taking control of my health and getting on HRT ASAP.
I was at that Menoposium in Chicago!!! Great panel of experts and I was thrilled to have the opportunity to meet Dr MCH and have her sign her newest book for me.
I had one of the guys from work tell me about this. I thought it was so lovely as he’s 30. They’re all seeing what I’m going through and being supportive and getting an education lol. This has me making an appointment to see my doctor about a patch. My flashes and sleep disruption has been diabolical. Thank you for this podcast. Thank you to these pioneering women who will make this life changing experience more positive, empowering and healthy. They are paving the way for our daughters to navigate this time and generations to come. ❤
Only issue I took was that it was difficult to follow Huberman's thoughts and questions, as the Dr was so quick to answer, she didnt let him finish (probably because she is very passionate about the topic!) Very grateful for the information though!
I sent this to every one of my female friends! I’ve never felt so validated in all my 57 years. I thought there was something wrong with me, until I finally found a practitioner who was educated in the menopausal woman and HRT.
I’ve been studying aging as it relates to my own situation, for about 6 months, including becoming a fan girl of Dr. Haver. I am 69 and am the poster child for bad info since my late 30s. But, I have had an easy transition and almost no symptoms (other than onset of anxiety at age 50, treated with SSRIs) so it hasn’t been a big deal. About 2 years ago the shit hit the fan, weight gain for no good reason: body weakness, intense fatigue, and general malaise. I now have listened to this twice and will take my new found knowledge to my doc as I begin the HRT. I hope I’m not too late. I am seeing success in many friends (younger) and hope to regain strength and joy and fit in my fabulous clothes so I can go down the path into my 70s, 80s and 90s. My mom is 99 so I likely need to plan for the next 30. Thank you, Dr. Huberman, for being my girl, Dr. MaryClaire, to your show. I’ll be sharing rigorously! And Dr MC? Let’s get together and laugh at our own jokes! 😊
Listening to the Huberman podcast with Dr Haver and saw your comment. I'm 62 and wondering if I'm too old to start HRT. Were you able to get a prescription for estrogen?
Ask me how many times I have been dismissed as "depressed" or "it's in your head" only to find out....years later I have hypothyroidism and other hormonal imbalances 😔 Made me feel defeated,lonely, a little insane so I avoided (stopped going) doctors for decades. Still don't trust them but I do check ups and I advocate for my health now. We should not "fight" with the medical professionals we should be allies. Nobody wins if we don't change the status quo of women's health. Thank you for this
I am so happy that this topic is getting more attention. The current and future generations will benefit greatly with having WELL mothers, grandmothers, great grandmothers, Aunts, sisters etc..WOMAN in their lives. Thank you!🎉
Haver has been instrumental in my perimenopaus journey. Was able to have conversations with my obgyn and find the right hormone therapy, as well following her advice on supplements, movement, sleep hygiene, and nutrition. Changed my life. Forever grateful ❤
Crucial information for anyone going through peri/ meno, so thank you guys for such a valuable podcast. Little stressful to listen to mind you, as she kept speaking over Dr. Hub and not letting him finish sentences.. drives me insane! Hope you don’t mind the honest feedback.
I agree 100%! She really needs to learn to listen instead of talking.
Mary Claire Haver is amazing. Thank you so much for having her on. She truly is the most educated, passionate and knowledgeable person that I’ve ever listened to on women’s health. Thank you for this podcast ❤
THANK YOU for having Dr Haver on! I’ve downloaded this podcast to listen during my daily 30-40 minute outside walk(live in Wyoming so constantly losing cell signal on the back 40)! I LOVE her honesty, frankness, lamen explanations for us all to learn and understand. While females are supposed to keep the human race going; it seems that’s the only piece health organizations have ever cared about. NOT what we have to endure after our body is done with that chapter.
She has radically changed my life. I suffered YEARS without HRT. This is the best interview w her that I've seen. THANK YOU!
So grateful for this episode. Dr Haver passionate way of speaking makes this 2 hour podcast feel like 20 minutes! a real gold mine!
I love Dr. Haver! Im a 43 year old woman in Peri-menopause. I just discovered all the wonderful information she has to offer, and it couldn't of come into my life at a better time.
WELL DONE PROF HUBERMAN!!! Thank you soooo much for considering us older women!! Thanks for Dr Haver for all your work on this very important and under researched topic!!!
In my mid 50’s my doctor refused to prescribe more HRT because it was directly related to increased risk of breast cancer. If only we knew then what we learned now from Dr Haver. Thank you 😢
Have watched all your videos online and I found this one most related to as a 48 yr old woman. This is almost the best interview of Dr Haver among all she did. Thank you very much both of you.
Again.....thank you for this episode. I'm 60 years old.......... been fighting so hard about stuff for 20 years!!!!! Still going through a lot. Dr. Mary......please keep doing what you are doing. I may have a granddaughter someday. Knowledge is power!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for having Dr Haver on your show. Such a need for more awareness and education on menopause
I want to thank everyone involved in making the Huberman podcast possible It has been a life changer not for just me, but everyone I meet who has also found this podcast.
Thank you for discussing this topic! As a pelvic health physical therapist, I see a lot of women with MSK dysfunction secondary to menopause and perimenopause. I can’t wait to pass this information along. Much needed discussion!
I'm going to see a pelvic PT in a few weeks for this very upsetting bladder issue. I wondered if it was related to menopause which I'm right there but just had another period after 8 months of none. Ugghhh!
Get on localised Estradiol as soon as possible. VitD3 and VitK2 daily. I'd recommend core and pelvic work for the rest of your life.
So grateful that Dr. Mary Claire Haver is leading this movement which empowers women to make the most informed decision for herself in regard to HRT and women's health. I am 58 and on HRT and probably wouldn't have even considered it, if not for her and menopause Barbie (let's not forget her!). Amazing podcast!
Thanks Doctors! Im 48 and no clear diagnosis of perimenopause or menopause, but so many symptoms that you spoke about. I now feel prepared for my next gyno visit.
Thank you for having this doctor speak about HRT -
Dr Felice Gersh is also an amazing Hormone Expert and provides an additional method such as pulsing progesterone a
Recommends a higher hormone dosage- she says the higher dosage will make a difference in a woman’s bones and brain and heart. This lady has changed my life !
Thank you for having such important support for women on your podcast Dr. Huberman. We are all better because of these important conversations & resources. Dr. Leslie Korn from Harvard is someone I would personally love to hear you interview as well. SO grateful!
I never comment on UA-cam videos, but Dr Huberman, this one was life changing for me, a 48 year old woman. I’ve had 2 children and regular gyn appointments, but no PCP has ever really addressed my fatigue as a potential peri-menopausal symptom. Because I am of healthy weight and still having regular periods they always look to anemia or thyroid-which both turn out fine in blood tests.
Thank you to Dr Haver for giving listeners vital information and resources for this major (and poorly understood) transition in every woman’s life.
Wow, what a topic!!! As a 47 years young carnivore suffering from lipedema, will absorb all the knowledge immediately. Thank you...❤🙏
so you heard you need at least 32 grams fiber
Preferred not to!!!😊 Carnivore is much better than others according to my experience as a previous keto who lost more than 30 kilos. 🌸
I thought I was going crazy but now I know it's probably perimenopause...as soon as I turned 34 I stopped sleeping, have tried literally everything (aside from Rx) and have found no cure, and can basically tick off every single other symptom Dr Haver has listed in this and the DOAC episode. Grateful that I now have this information to approach my doctor with.
Thanks for this one. I didn’t get to have the conversation with my mom before I lost her. I know that would have saved me a lot of grief. Thanks for all you do Andrew.
65 took HRT til 59 recommended to stop for health reasons now having “symptoms” after hearing Mary I now have made an appt to seek HRT once again
Wow glad I came across this discussion again
I’ve had breast cancer at a young age (37) and now when I talk to doctors about helping me with my perimenopause symptoms, they tell me they can’t help me because HRT isn’t for people who’ve had hormone based breast cancer.
But listening to this podcast it makes me question this line of thought. It would be good to get clarity.
You can use bio identicals and localised Estradiol. Don't listen to people whom have no knowledge. You also need to change your diet and supplement with high quality vitamins and minerals. Excercise such as walking /pilates/sprinting for short amounts of time. Some yoga and swimming in the sea or ocean if possible.
Some weight training as well.
I am so glad to see this doctor on your site. She is and has saved me so very much while I was in peri and now in menopause. I shared her information with my gynocologist who is surprisingly still so old fashioned. Doctors off all practices need to educate themselves CONSTANTLY!! Enjoyed having two very respected people in their fields sharing this topic.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This was an excellent episode. As a 42-yr-old who is experiencing symptoms of perimenopause, I've been trying to bring awareness because I've had palpitations, night sweats, anxiety, etc. I will refer folks to this podcast and Dr. Mary Claire Haver to my friends far and wide. This is such an encouragement, and I hope more research will be done in this area.
Can't thank you enough for creating this episode! I had a long, hard road struggling to find medical support and answers on my own 'menopause journey'. Finally, life is sooo much better with HRT, which I also plan to take for many years. The work of MDs like Dr. Mary Haver are invaluable in educating female patients who are in need of informations and solutions, as well as the medical community that is supposed to be supporting them. I have high hopes that this life transition will not be so brutal for future generations of women.
33:06 - Amen. Having endured a stillbirth, an ectopic pregnancy resulting in the loss of my fallopian tube, an emergency C-section and premature birth of my living daughter, four miscarriages, and a second C-section resulting in the live birth of my second daughter, as well as learning through all of that that I have a mild blood clotting disorder, by the time I was 40 and had already used the pill and an IUD to prevent pregnancy in my 20s, I was not going to endure one more intervention - so my husband got a vasectomy. Easiest thing ever.
My journey has been similar to you❤ and my man recently did the same! I am very happy you can now rest from the trauma, stress and anxiety of getting pregnant. I will pray for healing and a wonderful life with your daughters for you.
@@muchadoaboutkovu thank you! Now that I'm more than a decade past that time in my life, I can look back and am extremely grateful that my daughters got through the gauntlet that is my uterus. I hope that you were also able to build a family, and for many happy years to come.
Amen!
😊😅🎉🎉🎉😊❤❤😊
I cannot thank you both enough. About to turn 53 and went through horrible hot flashes. Thank goodness for a low estrogen and progesterone protocol, my hot flashes went away within a week and my memory got better.
Good Lord I feel validated! The statement of hormone replacement v SSRIs: I was on SSRIs in my early 30s. In my early 40s I FINALLY got a deep dive hormone panel. No more SSRIs and pursued HRT, and never looked back. I tell any woman I know experiencing issues, to at least get their hormones looked at by an experienced endo!
Everything is related to the endocrine system in women. Everything..
Amazing content! Thank you! Wish she didn’t interrupt him on 90% of the questions and statements he was inputting. Let the man finish his sentence PLEASE!
I cannot thank you two enough. I have now watched this through 3 x. Once by myself - mouth open surprised at the info I was hearing. Second time with my wonderful husband, I was in tears hearing about the symptoms I've been dealing with for the last few years but had never gotten checked out, didn't realize there were possible solutions. Finally finished the 3rd time today, making so many notes to look up things I don't understand and determined to find a doctor who will help me optimize this journey to get me feeling back to myself. Blessings.
Omg omg omg I cannot believe this! I asked you for this and here it is! AMAZING!!! Thank you thank you thank you for having Dr Haver on
35 and it all hit me like a freight train. Quit my job due to crippling anxiety. Vertigo, fatigue, hot flashes, cycle changes. I found Dr. haver and sought help. HRT is making me feel 20 again. Normalized my cycle completely also. Just started testosterone cream and its helping so much. Have been on progesterone for 7 months.
Wow! So many good outcomes! Having some similar symptoms.
35 is young... was it premature ovary failure? So that was coming on early 30s.
I had all the usual symptoms of menopause (hot flashes, night sweats, can’t sleep, etc) but also I had horrible aching joints, especially my knees. HRT fixed all of this, plus an eyelid twitch that had gone on for two years continuously. I feel like a million bucks since starting HRT. Also, all my blood tests (cholesterol, hba1c, etc) are all very improved, and I lost 20 pounds. My doctor is totally blown away. Like Marie Claire, I plan to die with my HRT patch on.
this is so wonderful to hear. May I ask what HRT protocol you take? I have an appointment coming up in the next week. I hope to have the same success as you.
Oh OK, now I can add the eye twitching to my long list, never connected that to mp.
My mum had terrible menopause symptoms, she turned into an absolute dragon and was horrible for almost 5 years. I was dreading this and when I started peri-menopause, the hot flashes, interrupted sleep and mood swings were starting to be an issue when I changed to a very low carb diet to solve bad teeth issues. My menopause symptoms stopped immediately and never came back! Low carb transitioned to carnivore and I've been mostly carnivore for 5 years now, I still can't believe how it eliminated all my menopause (and many other) issues.
Oral HRT has changed my life and made me feel normal again. This was so informative. Thank you.
Do you see a GP or NP for your HRT?
Same here! I'm 2 months in to estradiol patch and oral Micronized progesterone and I feel like myself again! I used Midi Health online, telehealth.
as a hyper-focused self-aware 50 yr old biological female--I believe nutrition and exercise greatly impact and can ease the symptoms.. Love this episode. She has filled some gaps e.g. to include endocrinology weave its way into my contemplation as I continue on my peri-menopausal 'journey'. Love! Love! I have been a huge fan since your very first episode. sign me up for the groupy club
That was an amazingly informative episode!… I am 37 and in the past 6 months- 1 year, have started experiencing several symptoms mentioned here relating to perimenopause. I felt like I am too young to be entering that phase of my life, but based on the information in this video, I understand that this may be what I am experiencing. There were so many useful tidbits I can use. I feel much more validated and educated by watching this, so thank you very much, Dr. Huberman, for choosing to explore this topic! ❤
Same. I started experiencing symptoms at 36 and am grateful my OBGYN basically mentioned perimenopause. I'm actively looking for a menopause specific provider because I'm determined to navigate this phase of my life with the best shot of health into my golden years.
Peri lasts 10 years. Also what is your lifestyle and diet like??? Stress levels sleep levels etc.
You can change your lifestyle and take good supplements. Get off meds and even the pill. I wonder did you take that injection in 21? Peri does last 10-12 years.
Watching my mom go through menopause it was clear she was struggling so much. Mentally and physically. I can tell you she did not received half of the information about perimenopause and menopause that is in this video. She just felt it was her, something was wrong with her. When in fact so many women go through it but it's not talked about enough. I am trying to learn all I can now to better my health during that period of my life. I really appreciate doctors like them for providing free information about this topic.
As a nurse, I would have appreciated the conversation more if MCH would have let Huberman finish his thoughts before she answered him. It’s a tad distracting as I wanted to hear his full thought. But I do watch both channels and enjoy her knowledge on the subject as I am in perimenopause.
Yes!!! I thought I was the only one who noticed that
I think about how many marriages end in divorce during these years possibly related to these symptoms. So much more research and advocacy is needed to help families navigate this. Thank you Dr. MARY and Dr. HUBERMAN!
We need more research on female health!!!
I saw Dr Haver on several podcasts, this I hands down the best one, the most professional, comprehensive and scientific.
What did menopause look like throughout human evolution as compared to today? Did we always lose estrogen at today's rate, and we just suffered through the symptoms? Do women of indigenous tribes have different menopause experiences?
These are the questions we need to be asking. Is HRT necessary to relieve the very real and devastating characteristics (symptoms sounds too “sick” for a natural process) of peri/post menopause?
Did women live long enough to survive the menopause?
@lenkabosma5629 Good question, I believe so based on what I have read about human evolution and the role of grandmother's in hunter gatherers tribes (Daniel Lieberman), but I would love an expert to answer this.
@@bethanydueweke7492if considering the Grandmother hypothesis re why human females continued living beyond reproductive capability, it’s also worth considering that the likely age of ancient grandmothers (and not so ancient grandmothers) became grandmothers as young as mid-30’s, so typical human life span could still have been appx age 50ish. Given that average life span of humans (at least in wealthier countries easily exceeds 20+ years what has historically been the case, humans are only very recently in a whole other era of life span. Therefore it makes sense that women in our current era might need HRT to extend their life span-just as men and women beyond age 50 may take any number of medications to extend life span and we think nothing of it. Saying that women before 20th century just got through perimenopause/menopause “naturally” grossly overlooks the much lower average life spans of men and women up to the 20th century and the role of medical interventions and innovations, including HRT, that made longer average life spans possible.
I think about this all the time. I think we were meant to stop our periods but not to suffer the way we are now. There are so many toxins in our world that are so disrupting. I could say so much but it would be a book! The good thing is we have learned so much in the last 10 years and I believe that will continue.
I had a friend who was 62 & still had her menstrual cycle She was very careful about eating healthy and worked out on a regular basis I was in my 30s then Now I’m in my 40 s about to enter my 50 s and I’m very healthy. I use all natural products to stop night sweats which is the only symptom I sometimes get. Eat healthy, work out, and have a healthy friend-family support system is working for me
I quit drinking at 49, wend keto/carnivore at 50 and hit 12 month without a period this year (54). I did not have one single symptom of menopause that she mentions - no hot flashes, irritability or brain fog, etc. And no weight gain.
She talked about diet several times and protein/collagen. Every woman should give up drinking especially after 35. You had good health before your 50s. It helps considerably.
Also it's the 5/10 years after the cessation of menses where you see big changes.
This podcast gives me hope. I am 43 and experiencing perimenopausal symptoms. I thought I was going crazy! I almost cried from relief when I heard Dr. Haver describe some of the symptoms. With this info and some more research, I feel like I can advocate for myself.
Such an important conversation for both women and men, thank you Andrew and Dr Haver
Thank you Dr. Huberman for doing this crucial episode for all women. THANK YOU for not dismissing us. I am a Nurse & have not been acknowledged by my practitioners for help with & through menopause. I feel for my lay sisters even more.
Dr. Haver is the generational expert & as she says, we need more education beginning in medical school & continuing education for practitioners.
Thank you thank you and thank you for doing a podcast on this topic. There is so little support for women in this regard 🙏