The Tragedy of Ocarina of Time’s DYING Guard (Zelda Theory)

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2019
  • What happened to the royal guard found in the back alley of Castle Town?
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  • @SebbyWest
    @SebbyWest 4 роки тому +493

    I want a spin-off called: The Legend of the Guard Who Actually Did Something

    • @Fyrethorne
      @Fyrethorne 4 роки тому +35

      That really is my one peeve with many Rpgs. I wish the guards could be something worth noting so the baddies actually felt threatening

    • @theleftfootedsultan
      @theleftfootedsultan 4 роки тому +15

      Cough cough TP cough cough

    • @coolperson5500
      @coolperson5500 4 роки тому +28

      Don't forget majoras mask when the guard just let's a thief run out of town and stops Link instead

    • @cody3504
      @cody3504 Рік тому

      It would be very short lived no pun intended 😂

  • @ufc3459
    @ufc3459 4 роки тому +71

    This actually fits with another theory. The bored Gate Guard he could of betrayed Hyrule just for a little fun and his reward for helping Ganondorf was to be transformed into the poe collector.
    This also adds another twist. The dying guard was probably the one who opened the gate for Impa and Zelda. He then was attacked by the bored guard and was mortally wounded for helping Zelda.

  • @SilicatYT
    @SilicatYT 4 роки тому +78

    Wait, so I was wrong? It was not a theory about the bottles behind the soldier? Dang...
    I thought he drank too much beer, so he was a bit dizzy when you talked to him. Then he gets K.O... Common stuff

  • @Twilit_Gamer
    @Twilit_Gamer 4 роки тому +81

    Once again, excellent theory, NBC!
    Also, if you haven't already, I ask that everyone would pay their respects to the fallen soldier
    R.I.P. Soldier of Hyrule Castle
    1998-1998 and 2011-2011

    • @devinhigoy221
      @devinhigoy221 3 роки тому +9

      R.I.P. "The Soldier who actually did something", he will hopefully be put to rest in a better place besides the back of an alley way.

  • @Void_Echoes
    @Void_Echoes 4 роки тому +223

    To this day I still don’t know why Majora’s Mask is filled with Noodles.

    • @gamerofthetime
      @gamerofthetime 4 роки тому +25

      That are tenticals. Majoras Mask use this to ,,stick" to a persons head to gain controll over it. There is a pretty cool Majorask Mask animation wit the Horror kid where you can see it very well.

    • @DarkBandicoot
      @DarkBandicoot 4 роки тому +11

      @@gamerofthetime Noodles!

    • @xXBoykisserXx
      @xXBoykisserXx 4 роки тому +2

      Nobody like this coment, it's at the magical number

    • @Void_Echoes
      @Void_Echoes 4 роки тому +6

      GameroftheTime
      BRUH YOU RUINED THE JOKE I KNOW THEY’RE TENTACLES

    • @Void_Echoes
      @Void_Echoes 4 роки тому +1

      PhantomBlazeScythe 19454
      Too late rip

  • @tarynwinterholler3099
    @tarynwinterholler3099 4 роки тому +116

    Legend says his family still misses him today.. even if it was never confirmed he had one :P

    • @cannedpainter9542
      @cannedpainter9542 4 роки тому +5

      lord of Ink games that’s possibly the best cliffhanger I can think of because it’s suspenseful and scary to think about.

    • @crystalwolf3838
      @crystalwolf3838 4 роки тому +4

      A part of me thinks hes links father maybe he faught in the war years ago and went to find his wife and child and when he found his wife dead he decided that it was safer to leave his child there then to bring him back cause the line he says about wanting to meet you seemed sus to me

    • @lutherkhantuter
      @lutherkhantuter 4 роки тому +4

      the knight is links older brother lunk

    • @Edgeperor
      @Edgeperor 4 роки тому +3

      Crystal Wolf I was thinking that he might have been who the next Link in the timeline (no matter which of the three it was) is descended from

  • @alexanzaldo5168
    @alexanzaldo5168 4 роки тому +23

    Link: *breathes*
    Navi: "look out!!"

  • @rayrevolta6198
    @rayrevolta6198 4 роки тому +62

    Maybe Ganondorf's men escaped through a secret passage in the alley where the dying guard is found. He could have chased them there to try and stop them and he couldn't find/open the secret way.

  • @ShadowSkyX
    @ShadowSkyX 4 роки тому +8

    I believe Shiru the soldier is the back alley soldier from OoT. Link watched him die, but in Majora's mask, he gets "a second chance" to redo things; he can save him/bring him back to life with a red or blue potion instead of helplessly watching.
    Note he laments "why does no one see me? No matter how much I wave my arms and call out, why do they not notice me? Is it because I'm plain as a stone...?"
    That latter could be dark humor at the fact all the hylian soldiers look identical, though.
    But the fact you cannot see him unless you use the lens of truth is telling: he was perhaps dead already when you find him, and no one noticed or heard his "calls" because he didn't know he had died. He could've temporarily jolted back to life just long enough to pass on the message he was supposed to tell link.

  • @ShepherdsCreek
    @ShepherdsCreek 4 роки тому +25

    I always thought it was kinda a given that it was an inside job. Why would the guards all be totally chill when their princess was missing otherwise?

  • @ZeldaLore
    @ZeldaLore 4 роки тому +11

    This makes a lot of sense, and fits nicely with the existing lore. Ganondorf could have corrupted the guards by telling them of the triforce and its power to grant wishes, and once he, and his followers got to the sacred realm, Ganondorf killed them all and claimed the triforce for himself.

  • @veronicanaumov2981
    @veronicanaumov2981 4 роки тому +9

    R.I.P Guard, May the goddess smile upon him

  • @SongoftheLute
    @SongoftheLute 4 роки тому +92

    Wow, Ganondorf sure does like to take over Hyrule castle doesn't he. I bet you could make a whole video just on that topic!
    Dark castle Hyrule is wonderful in Occarina, but people don't pay much attention to what Vaati did to it in the minnish cap.
    Hyrule castle is a major target for villains, like the wizard Aganim in LTTP. And wow did it look freaky in breath of the wild!
    That castle ! Everyone wants that building, but all it is is stone really. Could it be that its the symbol of what it means is so important to these villains, or does the geographical location have some sort of secret??

    • @viniciusmonado8205
      @viniciusmonado8205 4 роки тому +21

      It's in the center of the Kingdom, a good strategic military position.

    • @tisthecat
      @tisthecat 4 роки тому +19

      When someone takes the capital (a.k.a. Hyrule Castle), usually the whole country gives up. That's how most of the wars IRL worked.

    • @SongoftheLute
      @SongoftheLute 4 роки тому +8

      Totally agree with you, and it made for some super cool dungeons in zelda. Like Twilight Princess.

    • @SongoftheLute
      @SongoftheLute 4 роки тому +7

      I guess the best way to rub stuff in Hyrules face is for Ganon to sit his backside on the throne after killing the king, its totally usurper style. I just wondered if there was any lore attached to that spot of ground as well.

    • @KelsiChristine
      @KelsiChristine Рік тому

      @@tisthecat which is exactly what dumbass trump tried to do with the insurrection 💯

  • @hyliadreamer
    @hyliadreamer 3 роки тому +8

    A suggestion: The "men" might well have been strictly from the Gerudo tribe, but Ganondorf convinced them to go into battle disguised when they enacted the siege. The Gerudo have a fearsome reputation, to be sure...
    ...but how much more demoralizing would it be for the Hylian soldiers if they believed they'd been attacked either by their own people (thus making them fearful that anyone they met might be a traitor, which would aid in their defeat), or else by some mysterious outside force? Ganondorf is clever enough to try a tactic like that (and his foster mothers are wily enough to come up with it, if he didn't). It's easier to defeat a foe who has been thoroughly cowed into fearing even their best friends.
    Divide and conquer, to put it more briefly. If Twinrova could brainwash Nabooru into an Iron Knuckle's armor to fight Link, then it would be simple enough to convince the entire tribe to crossdress in order to psychologically defeat the Hylians before they'd even engaged them in battle.

  • @kolterbraun1456
    @kolterbraun1456 4 роки тому +4

    If Ganondorf's "men" were royal guards that betrayed the king it would explain why nobody in town noticed much. They just saw guards and thought nothing of it.

  • @azurecalamity600
    @azurecalamity600 4 роки тому +17

    What if Ganondorf's men were actually members of the shieka tribe that switched sides after the civil war at kakariko village?

    • @enderborn6860
      @enderborn6860 3 роки тому

      proto yiga?

    • @brisell
      @brisell 2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking that, the fact that Impa says she´s the last one of the tribe not knowing the "yiga" (let´s call them like that) are the soldiers who are helping Ganondorf.

  • @dbv8600
    @dbv8600 4 роки тому +9

    Talk about an un sung hero.

  • @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
    @Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 4 роки тому +4

    I actually like the idea that ganon isn't king because of a legitimate claim to power (either by birthright or by being somehow granted the power), but rather because he stole the kingdom somehow. Remember, one of his titles is gerudo king of thieves. His power comes from nabooru's brainwashing not power the gerudo granted him.

  • @Anove.
    @Anove. 3 роки тому +2

    That is a depressing tombstone.
    RIP Thomas: the one guard who actually did his job.

  • @noonslullabies
    @noonslullabies Рік тому +1

    When I first got my 3ds, OoT was one of the games I picked up after years hearing about online, so I already knew about the soldier and knew I had to find him.
    It was a sad experience. He left such a deep impression on those that first met him on the 64 that they went onto share his existence, and when it came out on the 3ds, more people went to go find him.
    No one deserves to die alone, and we all made sure he didn't.

  • @n4eem_04
    @n4eem_04 4 роки тому +9

    Finally an OOT episode

  • @GrandAdmiralThrawn13
    @GrandAdmiralThrawn13 4 роки тому +26

    what if he was ganondorf sending link to the temple of time to open the way to the sacred realm?

    • @jedicomedy
      @jedicomedy 4 роки тому +2

      *rolls eyes*

    • @YAKlSOBA
      @YAKlSOBA 2 роки тому

      *grabs eyes and runs away*

  • @Jus-X
    @Jus-X 4 роки тому +2

    This is a really good theory. I would even go one step further and say that the uprising in the castle was still gone on when Link arrives.
    It could very well be that the King was in the middle of a battle when Zelda and Impa fled, and Ganondorf chose between continuing the battle with the King or going after Impa as shrew she Zelda fled with the only key to the Sacred Realm.

  • @kgy121
    @kgy121 4 роки тому +2

    Based on how many Hyrule Captains betray you, constantly, in Hyrule Warriors, they don't have a very high shown loyalty.

  • @mattzilla331
    @mattzilla331 4 роки тому +4

    The dying soldier always creeped me out a bit. One of the details that I loved finding in the game.

  • @dorememe8548
    @dorememe8548 4 роки тому +4

    This has been bothering me since that SwankyBox video. I'm glad you made a follow-up. The story you describe makes a lot of sense!

  • @soulangel57
    @soulangel57 4 роки тому +6

    Well I believe Ganondorf knew from the very beginning what Zelda and link were up to and chasing zelda and capturing hyrule was to pressure them to open the door of time, which is why he doesn't kill link then and there even though he isn't above killing children, this is why he is there immediately after link opens up the sacred realm it is completely possible Ganondorf planted that guard to push him into opening the door. Never forget Ganondorf is as cunning as he is ruthless.

  • @yungproxy5433
    @yungproxy5433 4 роки тому +28

    I've always wanted to know what that man meant

  • @lady_lexi_
    @lady_lexi_ 3 роки тому +1

    I feel like this video of yours is underrated, because this theory is one of my favorite.

  • @sageofsquirrels111
    @sageofsquirrels111 4 роки тому +2

    While I don't doubt that Ganondorf had inside men in the Castle Guard, be they brainwashed or bribed. That said, I think Zelda's escape was a secret on Impa's part. There would be a few guards that would have known secret passages and back alleys to help the two escape, but of course there would be casualties along the way. For all we know, there's others within the castle walls also dead as Dorf pursued them.

  • @AzureRoxe
    @AzureRoxe 4 роки тому +33

    1. When it comes to soldiers in games and movies, "men" is almost always used as a group of male soldiers. Other words are usually used when the group is female like "my group/my people/us/we" or "my ladies". There being women in the group means nothing, they would still be called "men" and if they were specifically Gerudo, they would've been identified extremely quickly.
    2. Nabooru leads the Gerudo and her rebelling against Ganondorf while the Gerudo still respect and follow her imply that they all turn against him. In fact, i'm almost 100% something about this is mentioned in the game.

  • @TylerAngelle
    @TylerAngelle 4 роки тому +5

    Great video dude! Despite the topic already being talked about, you gave it a fresh new take! Very fun and viable theory!

  • @MrJmZack
    @MrJmZack 4 роки тому +36

    Great work, Will!
    Only one gripe:
    Koume (Koo•meh)
    Kotake (Koh•tah•keh)

    • @Twilit_Gamer
      @Twilit_Gamer 4 роки тому +1

      Honestly tho, I think everyone else pronounces them as Koh•meh and Koh•take these days

    • @MrJmZack
      @MrJmZack 4 роки тому +4

      @@Twilit_Gamer but that isn't correct. They're based on Japanese names, which are syllabic in nature. Take the name of the shiitake mushroom-it's pronounced "shee•tah•keh," not "shee•take."

    • @Twilit_Gamer
      @Twilit_Gamer 4 роки тому

      I know. I'm just saying that no one pronounces anything correctly anymore. Especially not me

    • @turpinator
      @turpinator 4 роки тому +3

      Objection! I prefer the correct pronounciation as well. So no, there are others that use it as well.

    • @Twilit_Gamer
      @Twilit_Gamer 4 роки тому

      @@turpinator I meant MOST people don't. At least, not my generation.

  • @BigBoiDobby
    @BigBoiDobby 4 роки тому +26

    Yes i needed something great to watch! :D

  • @Rvnvmpir
    @Rvnvmpir 3 роки тому +2

    Damn low-key made me shed a tears

  • @moonracer4911
    @moonracer4911 4 роки тому +2

    The monks in botw dissolve into a green smoke after you complete a shrine. The green is the same color as the supposing zonal magic potentially sealing ganondorf

  • @Brittanyknuckles1427
    @Brittanyknuckles1427 4 роки тому

    Great content NBC!! never fails to disappoint! So happy i found your channel

  • @mischarowe
    @mischarowe 4 роки тому +42

    3:43 I love this addition. The whole video is great and I'm totally with you, but this part made me S-M-I-L-E.

    • @NintendoBlackCrisis
      @NintendoBlackCrisis  4 роки тому +8

      I thought of it when making the script and just had to include it 🤣

    • @mischarowe
      @mischarowe 4 роки тому +2

      @@NintendoBlackCrisis 🤗

  • @CivRev10
    @CivRev10 4 роки тому +58

    Haha the subtle swipe at "some people" haha.

    • @anonymousfellow8879
      @anonymousfellow8879 4 роки тому +9

      CivRev10
      Yeah that’s when I stopped watching. “Neutral he” not actually being gender neutral’s actually a pretty serious problem despite Singular They existing for literal centuries, and “forces” could’v also been used had the translators cared at the time, depending on the original Japanese wording.
      And calling out another creator on something that’s a sensitive topic? Completely inappropriate. Glad I never subscribed, won’t be back when NBC’s videos are in my recommends again.

    • @peanutbutter6720
      @peanutbutter6720 4 роки тому +18

      Anonymous Fellow you must be really fun at parties.

    • @anonymousfellow8879
      @anonymousfellow8879 4 роки тому +4

      P3NUTBUT3R
      Prolly as much fun as you, especially if the best insult you’ve got is something that stale

    • @TheIsaacFrazier
      @TheIsaacFrazier 4 роки тому +10

      @@anonymousfellow8879 you have toxic masculinity for sure

    • @peanutbutter6720
      @peanutbutter6720 4 роки тому +14

      Anonymous Fellow says the guy who can’t take a joke that happens to clash with their personal opinions.

  • @thehyperchargedcucco3379
    @thehyperchargedcucco3379 4 роки тому +5

    what if in botw 2 demise's spirit invades Ganondorf's body because the master sword was damaged in botw and in ss demise's soul is sealed in the master sword meaning that you'd have to either damage or break the master sword to free it

  • @lesterjester6660
    @lesterjester6660 4 роки тому +5

    Do you have any theories about the Poe Collector from OOT in terms of identity and why they collected Poe souls? When I played it they were always a character that intrigued me

    • @lsmith6046
      @lsmith6046 4 роки тому +1

      I have a theory on the Poe Collector.
      SO if you go to where the Poe Collector is as child Link there will be a soldier. If you you talk to this soldier at night he will talk about Poes he says that studying Poes are a hobby of his. I believe that this soldier is the Poe Collector.

    • @lesterjester6660
      @lesterjester6660 4 роки тому

      @@lsmith6046 Oh, I know what soldier you're talking about. That's a good theory. I've always thought the Poe Collector was a female though cuz it kinda looks like they're wearing a tattered dress with the purple Hyrule banner over it, similar to adult Zelda's dress.

  • @kohganightbane9430
    @kohganightbane9430 4 роки тому +3

    Ocarina of Time was also my first Zelda game to be defeated! You're amazing as always! If you're looking for dark Zelda theories, how about the origins of that disgusting and creepy miniboss grabby guy in the Shadow Temple (i don't remember its name.) Seriously, I am 22 years old and that thing scares the crap out of me.

  • @alexkat1555
    @alexkat1555 4 роки тому

    Thank you this is the Type of Video i was hoping to find about this topic! Nice job!

  • @Ladykady1823
    @Ladykady1823 3 роки тому

    Wow! What an amazing video, nicely done!

  • @emilychandler5134
    @emilychandler5134 4 роки тому +2

    rip ...thank you gard

  • @nerderonofficial
    @nerderonofficial 3 роки тому +2

    This guard has the be the perfect example of an unsung hero. 😢

  • @JustAHat
    @JustAHat 4 роки тому +1

    What if the guards weren't brainwashed or manipualted, but its a hydra in shield situation where undercover followers of ganondorf have been hyrule guards for a while

  • @dankestly1774
    @dankestly1774 4 роки тому +1

    He may not be NCO or CO, but what a legend. He deserves the Medal of Honor.

  • @Untolddead
    @Untolddead 4 роки тому +1

    It's cool to think about the epic battle the guard had defending the princess.

  • @vegetafan9922
    @vegetafan9922 4 роки тому +1

    I never knew that there are guard who stop you from entering the castle after Ganon invades the town because I almost always leg it straight to the Temple of Time to grab the Master Sword.

  • @mayrahemmerechts5867
    @mayrahemmerechts5867 Рік тому +1

    idk if this is also in the N64 version but in the 3DS version after you get the ocarina of time and re enter hyrule castle town the dialog of the npc's changes, some of them are indeed still blissfully unaware of whats going on but most either say they have a feeling something really bad is going to happen or they say they heard rumors that something went down at the castle and one even says they saw impa and zelda being chased out of the town by a gerudo on a black horse. the guards in the castle twn and in kakariko village on the other hand will say they heard something went down in the castle and wish they could go check but arent allowed to leave so no, at least in the 3DS version they are not all blissfully unaware of what is going on

    • @Copper20
      @Copper20 Рік тому +1

      Nope, not exclusive to the 3DS. The N64 version had them saying stuff about the incident; one of them even said they don't see a lot of gerudos around the area, though given that the soldier said "men" it would imply that he was explicitly referring to just Ganondorf and nobody else.

  • @lsmith6046
    @lsmith6046 4 роки тому

    This is awesome NBC! I always wondered about the guard who dies. this is a great theory.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 3 місяці тому +1

    I like to think that the reason there were no other men chasing after Zelda is because that one guard solo'd them all to give Zelda time to escape.

  • @PoserPosse
    @PoserPosse 4 роки тому +1

    I've played this game for years, and yet I remember absolutely none of this conversation with the guard. The most I remember is that he tries to say something, and dies before he can finish. Seeing the full dialogue is amazing and I'm really happy that there is this much evidence for a secret operation within the knights of Hyrule. Also, that Ganon killed the king! I don't remember that part either!

  • @thashogun199
    @thashogun199 3 роки тому

    Wow this is definitely a mind blowing theory and it totally makes sense, awesome analysis bro!💯💯💪🏾🔥

  • @thephalange8630
    @thephalange8630 4 роки тому

    I love, love, loooooveeee zelda theories for this reason, making me see things in a different perspective!

  • @michaelFrotaFokkens
    @michaelFrotaFokkens 4 роки тому +1

    I think there was a slide that showed up while they were explaining botw and they comment on it but the slide showed ganondorf on a floating mountain and in the trailer for botw2 the castle starts going up!

  • @authordccanipe
    @authordccanipe 2 роки тому +1

    That's what I always thought, that some of the knights betrayed their king.

  • @Edgeperor
    @Edgeperor 4 роки тому +2

    I’m convinced that the guard is who the next Link descended from

  • @Meeba
    @Meeba 4 роки тому +1

    You actually have a pretty lit upload schedule Will! Miss ya man.

  • @BMBrooks09
    @BMBrooks09 3 роки тому +4

    The Japanese version says that: « He... He’s not breathing anymore »

    • @leargamma4912
      @leargamma4912 3 роки тому

      E for Everyone, folks!

    • @Copper20
      @Copper20 3 роки тому

      Eh, saying "he's not moving anymore" is still pretty obvious to me.

  • @Ryan-rv5em
    @Ryan-rv5em 4 роки тому +10

    PLEASE MAKE A THEORY ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HERO OF TIME AFTER MAJORA’S MASK!

    • @BBBRon69
      @BBBRon69 4 роки тому

      Ryan hell no there are thousands of theories on youtube 🥴

    • @chikkennuggens
      @chikkennuggens 4 роки тому +1

      But we want to hear what NBC has to say about it

    • @akumathelion535
      @akumathelion535 4 роки тому +1

      Didn't he become a knight captain according to Twilight Princess?

    • @saltyfryz076
      @saltyfryz076 4 роки тому

      Bruh he died and became the hero of shade

  • @martymcflyy6775
    @martymcflyy6775 4 роки тому

    great theory as always

  • @pokemontrainernavy3052
    @pokemontrainernavy3052 4 роки тому

    Great theory as always

  • @yourbasicgamer566
    @yourbasicgamer566 4 роки тому +1

    oml 4 people post within an hour
    I'm binging all these just as fast

  • @trinketsphinx3212
    @trinketsphinx3212 Рік тому

    My very first Zelda, my very first video game, full stop, was The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening on the original brick Game Boy. I was 9, and I was forever hooked.

  • @neor2354
    @neor2354 4 роки тому +1

    This one was quite a nice comeback of a sad end, beautifull either way

  • @Dingus_Khaan
    @Dingus_Khaan 4 роки тому +4

    5:01 It's pronounced "Koh-oo-may"* and "Koh-tah-kay"*. They're named for a Japanese pickled plum and a Japanese mushroom.
    *Correction: Koh-oo-meh and Koh-tah-keh. My mistake.

    • @jaehaalexander1172
      @jaehaalexander1172 3 роки тому

      Its not... may... it's meh. So Kou-meh and Kota-keh. If it was "may" it would be spelled Koumei and Kotakei

    • @Dingus_Khaan
      @Dingus_Khaan 3 роки тому +1

      @@jaehaalexander1172 Thanks for the correction

  • @felipeskan
    @felipeskan 4 роки тому

    Amazing theory !

  • @54667991
    @54667991 4 роки тому

    The only guard who attempted to put up a fight but perished in the process.

  • @JFreese
    @JFreese 3 роки тому +1

    I have a theory: some people say that Majora’s Mask could possibly be a part of links afterlife. Either way I think this guard is who you get to save in MM with the red potion by stone tower.

  • @Hurricane360
    @Hurricane360 4 роки тому +1

    I figured about the guard. but hearing your theory gives more info! =)

  • @yunseaweed
    @yunseaweed 4 роки тому +1

    He was reborn as Fire Emblem Three Houses' Gatekeeper.
    This is true and you can't convince me otherwise.

  • @chesterv3607
    @chesterv3607 3 роки тому +2

    So immediately I had a few ideas just from the dialogue: the guard could have been an undercover sheikah that was working with impa, the guard could have been connected to Links mother in some way; father of Link, a friend of hers, or even just received some kind of divine message that he followed through with and investigated ganondorf on his own. There's also the possibility that they were just Zelda's favorite royal guard member so they were privy to info like her prophetic dreams. They could also be a woman (possibly a hylian informant that communicated with the gerudo, she was the only soldier fit for the job due to being a woman) since the armor covers most physical features, its hard to actually determine anything by appearance. I think the guard definitely communicated with some important character at some point, leading to their actions, and then death. However, the possibilities are numerous. A very tasty tidbit nonetheless

  • @workshop-studios
    @workshop-studios 4 роки тому +3

    Great video! It's been a long time since I've played Ocarina of Time but do you think that "Ganandorf's men" could have been the guards seen at 6:53? Do we ever see them outside of this scene? Seems to me all the other Hyrule guards resemble the dying one but we don't see the more elaborate ones anywhere else. I could be wrong though, again it's been a while.

    • @mayrahemmerechts5867
      @mayrahemmerechts5867 Рік тому +2

      I think those guards at 6:53 are the king’s personal bodyguards and that it’s because they have this high rank that their armour looks sturdier and fancier than those of the regular guard. Them being the king’s personal bodyguard also makes them an important possible pawn to ganondorf because if he could get them to his side he could use them to gather information so I think your theory might b correct

  • @pixelant2377
    @pixelant2377 4 роки тому +4

    Using men in this context can mean troops

  • @user-bg9ze9gp4t
    @user-bg9ze9gp4t 4 роки тому +1

    I think in zelda breath of the wild 2 there might be a city of tiny people as Nintendo was planning to do it in breath of wild but due to a problem they cancel it

  • @emryshale4989
    @emryshale4989 3 роки тому +1

    This doesn't really have to do with the video but while watching I had an idea that would be cool. What if there was a series, either movies or a TV show, made of OOT. Each installment would be each temple (or however much time would allot). Could be kind of like harry potter, or even stranger things (since the episodes are pretty long) and it could include the dying guard. Idk, just a thought 🤔

  • @MartKart8
    @MartKart8 4 роки тому +2

    I just watched SwankyZone's video before this one, were he kept saying you must die

  • @vulpecula_et_nox1683
    @vulpecula_et_nox1683 4 роки тому

    I always wondered about him...glad to hear there is/was someone worth trusting in the background. my fav easter egg has to be the tri-force in the moon. cant remember if it's in 64, but i know it's in the 3ds' ver LOZ:Oot 3d.

  • @krishnamckay3247
    @krishnamckay3247 4 роки тому +1

    Ahhh interesting...as for easter eggs, I found an interesting one in BotW. After you tame Medoh, if you see Teba in the Flight Range before fully cleansing Medoh, he talks about his injury and says "Dammit!" I didn't think they'd put that in a game rated E10

  • @istabkiwisforfun7907
    @istabkiwisforfun7907 4 роки тому

    Omg I luv his endcard

  • @Benchapicho
    @Benchapicho 4 роки тому +1

    Did anyone else notice that the guard helmets in OoT look like they were the inspiration for the soldier's helm in BotW? Same shape, same red plume, they both have ornate details on the brow, I mean that can't be a coincidence, right?

    • @halfondarr3951
      @halfondarr3951 4 роки тому +1

      You mean that soldiers helmet in Zelda have inspired Soldiers helmet in Zelda ? Deep...

    • @Benchapicho
      @Benchapicho 4 роки тому +1

      In a sea of originally designed armor choices, they chose to copy only a few designs found elsewhere in the series. I think it's cool that there's a tiny bit of continuity that most people won't care about.

    • @halfondarr3951
      @halfondarr3951 4 роки тому

      @@Benchapicho Well. Rephrased like that, I agree

  • @lemonectric
    @lemonectric 4 роки тому +5

    It makes sense that "men" in this context may not exclusively refer to a group of males. The word is being used by a soldier in a fantasy setting written in the 90s, so "men" being gender-neutral wouldn't be too surprising (if that is in fact what the writer intended). Either way, I like the implications of the royal guard being involved in the takeover.
    If I saw "men" or "man" being used as gender-neutral in a news article or social media post TODAY, I would bet on it being the awkward flub of a clueless/stubborn boomer. The word "guys" isn't quite at that level right now (plenty of people, including young women, say it innocently enough without being secretly sexist), but it does subtly suggest that male words are default and can therefore apply to anyone, while female words cannot. I think it's worth swapping out for truly gender-neutral terms, especially since it costs us nothing. Have a good day, y'all.

    • @adrianjones7113
      @adrianjones7113 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I totally agree!
      Honestly, I think in general saying "guys" or "dude" as a gender neutral thing isn't necessarily a problem, it's only when someone specifically asks not to be called that, especially if they're trans or nonbinary or something along those lines, that you shouldn't say it (when referring to them specifically, that is). It's like, don't be a douchebag, but we're not saying you can never ever say "guys" ever, or never use it as a gender-neutral thing. Most people don't care, and plenty of women and trans/gnc people alike use it.
      Which is why I don't particularly appreciate this sort of tone of "man, PC culture, am I right? Look at this person saying 'maybe we should stop using male-centric language, especially to describe women and trans/gnc people', what an idiot" in the video. Whether that particular video is being overboard or not, that sort of tone and the pride at "taking a swipe at THOSE PEOPLE" in the comments is... kind of sketch.
      But hey, it's like, one minute of :/ so it's not like I'm unsubscribing yet lol
      I just hope it isn't a recurring issue...

  • @adamblunsdon7784
    @adamblunsdon7784 4 роки тому

    Nice video

  • @spammerton1473
    @spammerton1473 4 роки тому

    Nbl i actualy love your theorys about botw and love that one about the hero about 10,000 years ago was the hand holding ganon and that he was a member of the zonai.Really great and is amazing,i dearly support this and if you read this pls give a heart :)

  • @pieter308
    @pieter308 4 роки тому

    This is the creepiest video topic ever. great theory

  • @nathandioza7821
    @nathandioza7821 4 роки тому

    3:43-3:46 *OOOHH!* I know *EXACTLY* who NBC's referring to!
    I've seen commentaries on that video!

  • @BogusLettuce
    @BogusLettuce 4 роки тому

    And here I thought majora's mask was the darkest game I played but after learning this, idk...

  • @Whodascrahd
    @Whodascrahd 4 роки тому +1

    interesting take.. but the guard could also be a trap purposely laid out by Ganondorf to confirm if Zelda did in fact give the OoT to a boy that she was talking to 'days' prior. we know that G-dorf saw Link with Zelda and probably figured she'd try something. we know the G-man is a master tactician and strategist, having tricking the king. so it wouldnt surprise me if he used dark magic to somehow create the illusion of a guard to coax Link into going to the temple asap. (this is assuming he has that kind of power before getting his piece of the golden doritos..

    • @NintendoBlackCrisis
      @NintendoBlackCrisis  4 роки тому +1

      Someone else also brought this up, and I have to say that it is a very good point!

    • @Whodascrahd
      @Whodascrahd 4 роки тому

      @@NintendoBlackCrisis oh sweet. I'm not the only one then and not possibly going insane for thinking about dirty tactics villains may have done behind the scenes

  • @crystalwolf3838
    @crystalwolf3838 4 роки тому +2

    A part of me thinks hes links father maybe he faught in the war years ago and went to find his wife and child and when he found his wife dead he decided that it was safer to leave his child there then to bring him back cause the line he says about wanting to meet you seemed sus to me

  • @user-qo1me7hh2c
    @user-qo1me7hh2c 3 роки тому

    Makes senses

  • @dafilmqueen556
    @dafilmqueen556 4 місяці тому

    RIP the humble soldier who actually did something. Your sacrifice was not in vain, my friend. The princess has been saved. I hope that the Hero of Time remembered you and passed your story down as well, knowing fully well your pain. Two heroes, forgotten by time itself, one in purgatory and another whose name is not even mentioned in the slightest. The humblest hero in this franchise has been forgotten by time, and only Time himself knows his story, who would've thought?

  • @jedicomedy
    @jedicomedy 4 роки тому

    There's more reinforcement to the theory that there was a battle. If you go to Ganon's Castle in OOT 3D, and you go to a cliffside by the castle, there is a guard helmet laying beside a monster skull with a spear in it's eye.

  • @kinggold3177
    @kinggold3177 Рік тому

    What if there are no more men to pursue because the Champion Guard of Hyrule Castle slayed them all but took considerable damage in the process and hid in the alley to die in peace, saw Link and warned him of what had happened. Could also be a reference to Links uncle in the older Zelda game that I can't remember the name to.

    • @Copper20
      @Copper20 Рік тому

      Link to the Past? Hyrule Castle was still "no entry allowed" after the attack so it could be that the soldiers were still dealing with the monsters in the castle or that the king was busy writing up an arrest warrant for Ganondorf - game said the king was betrayed, not killed. However given the time skip and no mention of him I wouldn't be too surprised if Ganondorf came back with the triforce of power and killed him later.

  • @himeoftwili
    @himeoftwili 4 роки тому +1

    3:44 That lowkey shade though lol. This video was really good. I always assumed something we didn't get to see happened to him and this explains it perfectly.
    Thank you for covering the forgotten characters of the series

  • @DerpyLaron
    @DerpyLaron 3 роки тому +1

    Or the split happens before the Minish Cap.
    You kind of forgot the Hero mentioned in the intro of Minish cap. The hero of man. Which helped the Minish before and the events of Minish cap.
    Notable he used a sword looking very much like the Master Sword which in the events of Minish Cap broke and got reforged into the 4 Sword. Now many seem to think hey it's a different sword then the master sword. The master sword has a purple hilt. It does in almost all time line, but check out the official artwork for the Master Sword in AltP. It's golden hilt and noticeably pointier blade then all other iterations. Just like the four sword. A odd detail to bring back to a game apparently unrelated. Yet it strangely is part of the series AltP was released with. Odd coincidence if those timeline and games are absolutely unrelated.
    Sure that all can be just coincidence, but it is odd that every other artwork explicitly shows it in purple and only in the Minish cap and the games of the Fallen Timeline it doesn't.
    Unless you consider that the split happens during the time of the Hero of man.
    One time lone where the sword return to it's familiar pedestal unbroken remaining the Master Sword forged by the Hero of the Skies in Skyward Sword. To later have the Temple of time Build around it.
    In the other used by the royal family to bring peace to the land sealing away monsters into a chest slowly slapping it of it's strength untill Vati snaps it.
    Because isn't it odd how that happened isn't it. How a legendary blade, banishing a great evil and saving the world just gets snapped by Vati not even using his full power. Unless it's strength has been sapped over time from containing the monsters.
    We know from BotW and Wind Wakerthat the power of the master sword is not unlimited can be temporarily depleted. Leaving the sword in a weaker or even unusable state. We also know that it can be upgraded. Well it can be in one time line. Neither the Adult nor the child timeline (discarding the misplacement of 4 swords adventure) feature a way to upgrade the Master Sword. Sure the Sol give it a buff in TP, but only in the fallen timeline is it regularly upgraded and reforged. A sword of the gods reforged? How odd unless it no longer is. reforged by mortals and thus far from its original power. The master sword in the Fallen timeline can no longer hold evil as well as it used tl. Weaker in sealing and banishing evil it would result in evil coming back over and over again. As is evident with Ganon returning over and over again in the fallen timeline. A timeline characterised by some of the strongest, best equipped links in the whole series and yet it is the one where Gannon comes back time and again over and over. In some cases within the live time of a hero.
    Also curiously the only person able to seemingly elevate a normal sword to the level of the master sword is found in this timeline. Farore a girl relegated to the Hall of Secrets and the way unlock the true ending of the game. Merging the timelines of the game into one and experiencing the true ending.
    That's my theory. :D

  • @samuelrivera7762
    @samuelrivera7762 4 роки тому +1

    That's cool that impa trained zelda in the ways of the shieka so she could defend herself.

    • @Copper20
      @Copper20 4 роки тому +1

      Call me crazy but I think Zelda was an expert archer in Ocarina before she learned sheikah ways.

    • @samuelrivera7762
      @samuelrivera7762 4 роки тому

      @@Copper20 I agree, but that's distance. Impa was showing her how to throw hands and feet up close 👊😂

    • @Copper20
      @Copper20 4 роки тому

      @@samuelrivera7762 Oh you mean like close combat? Okay then yeah she probably didn't do any punching and kicking.
      If she gave you the light arrows at the end of the game then to me she easily was into archery and probably pretty deadly. Hence why I made that observation.

  • @thelongestshadow3389
    @thelongestshadow3389 Рік тому

    REST IN PEACE JIMMY! 🫡🫡🫡🫡

  • @Plaegu
    @Plaegu 4 роки тому +3

    I knew I saw this covered somewhere. I thought maybe you did but UA-cam copyrighted something in it so this was a reupload 😂