Shadow Link's DARK Origins - ft. Dr. Wily (Zelda Theory)

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
  • What's the story behind one of the most mysterious antagonists of the Zelda series? Let's find out.
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  • @NintendoBlackCrisis
    @NintendoBlackCrisis  4 роки тому +185

    Check out Wily's part of the collab here! ua-cam.com/video/zPXjxwiiYR4/v-deo.html
    DON'T FORGET, ENTER THE LINK'S AWAKENING GIVEAWAY! (Ends Jan 31st, you still have time!!!!)
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    • @Cliffordlonghead
      @Cliffordlonghead 4 роки тому +3

      Awesome Video

    • @Retrowaver
      @Retrowaver 4 роки тому +3

      Great Video Crisis!

    • @redx6923
      @redx6923 4 роки тому

      I can’t enter because I don’t have that

    • @puline397
      @puline397 4 роки тому +8

      I think you ought to write in the video title it's a collab or feat. Willy, because many people were surprised to hear his voice out of nowhere, myself included.
      At first, I wasn't sure if you were bringing up his material as reference or stealing from it, only had to check the comments to see it was a collab. Really, an info like that in the title would've been helpful :)

    • @doodledrew7039
      @doodledrew7039 4 роки тому +5

      I noticed a lot of people complaining about dr wilys cadence, I dont mind it, but i think his rhythmic delivery is off putting to a lot of people. At the end when he talks directly to you, it sounds way more relaxed, maybe nudge him to give that a try...I like both of you guys so I dont want him to lose out on subs or views over something silly like that

  • @funnyteacherman
    @funnyteacherman 3 роки тому +51

    *talks about characters that are fan favorites*
    *immediately cuts to Ghirahim absolutely boogie-ing around Zelda's unconscious body*

  • @sumk1d
    @sumk1d 4 роки тому +62

    My man ends his sentences with commas

  • @shyguy5651
    @shyguy5651 4 роки тому +83

    I really like the theory that Dark Link is a manifestation of the Hero's resentment towards Ganondorf, or emotional stress and turmoil that he might go through during his adventures. It really gives Link more personality and character to him, further fleshing him out.

  • @himeoftwili
    @himeoftwili 4 роки тому +280

    I hope Dark Link returns in a later installment with some level of true sentience, it'd be nice to fight alongside him at some point, given he's forever in the shadow of the hero.

    • @hikaru9624
      @hikaru9624 4 роки тому +12

      Same! Although I'd be happy just to have him back as a boss or reoccurring overworld threat....but I know I'll also settle for having his tunic in botw2.

    • @frankclavette526
      @frankclavette526 4 роки тому +8

      You know what would be could is that Nintendo makes a Zelda game where you fight Dark Link and instead of him vanishing you use him as a partner

    • @fancymin1
      @fancymin1 4 роки тому +7

      Ebhii H. Actually I came up with a concept for a Zelda game that focuses on Dark Link’s origin and why he became what we see, leading to a sequel that takes place way later in the timeline where he ends up becoming an ally. My idea was that after the hero of the skies is dead, the next Link is born, however to make sure that this new hero is ready, Fi creates a shadow of the precious hero who would test your skills throughout the game to make sure you’re ready to take the Master sword. However you never actually loose too him so he goes from kind and predictable in combat to aggressive and irrational. Gannon eventually corrupts him into becoming pure evil and forced to continually fight (and loose) to link

    • @fancymin1
      @fancymin1 4 роки тому +2

      Ebhii H. Well my idea for his redemption would be that dark link would’ve been sealed in the master sword previously and is now thought of as a legend. He is reawakened when the next hero (my choice is a new child link) and accidentally sets him free when first clashing with ganondorf early game. Dark link realising that he’s been jealous of a kid for thousands of years and how he was used decides to assist link and Zelda or Impa I’m taking down Ganon, however deciding to only fight with a hookshot and a shield, covering his face with a hood and the mask of truth, Using only a duplicate of the master sword when fighting ganon...now just doing by the name Shade. Eventually taking his place as the one who teaches every incarnation of the hero how to fight when they need it

    • @Akyure
      @Akyure 4 роки тому +1

      fancymin1 I like most of that except for the name Shade.

  • @Feber2001
    @Feber2001 4 роки тому +47

    8:25
    Oh, that's freaky when his eyes turn red and he becomes more aggressive. Good stuff, Haha.

  • @DawnRego
    @DawnRego 4 роки тому +206

    I nearly lost it when the Spongebob reference was brought up. :D I immediately thought of it when I heard the word "Evil". Thank you, NBC.

    • @joshdean5867
      @joshdean5867 3 роки тому

      Did you actually ?? I doubt it .

    • @dafilmqueen556
      @dafilmqueen556 5 місяців тому

      Brah, this isn't the first time I've seen a SpongeBob reference in a video about The Legend Of Zelda, and I doubt it shall be the last..😂

  • @ericcanales1233
    @ericcanales1233 4 роки тому +330

    Dr. Wily’s voice scared me. I wasn’t expecting this

    • @michaelthem3
      @michaelthem3 4 роки тому +9

      neither did I :(

    • @jerrystouten5136
      @jerrystouten5136 4 роки тому +19

      The most annoying sound in the world. Check out dr wily, nooooo thank you

    • @hylianro
      @hylianro 4 роки тому +21

      What if you assholes had that voice? Gonna hate yourself?

    • @michaelthem3
      @michaelthem3 4 роки тому +26

      @@hylianro I'm pretty sure that's not his real voice, and he has improved it, yet he still has work to do, he can make it better than now. It's not hate, I don't think anyone was hating on him, it's just how it is.

    • @stanstanstan2597
      @stanstanstan2597 4 роки тому +3

      Me either dude I kinda jumped! Nice that he’s here though!

  • @XX-sp3tt
    @XX-sp3tt 4 роки тому +201

    The manga gave Shadow Link a character arc.

    • @AkumaW
      @AkumaW 4 роки тому +4

      Yes

    • @Inkyink
      @Inkyink 4 роки тому +22

      manga's not canon tho

    • @AkumaW
      @AkumaW 4 роки тому +38

      @@Inkyink i guess. But it is pretty good

    • @akumavalentine
      @akumavalentine 4 роки тому +22

      I get why it’s not canon but it was interesting seeing him in the comic!

    • @AkumaW
      @AkumaW 4 роки тому +1

      @@akumavalentine yeah

  • @ZeldaLover6
    @ZeldaLover6 4 роки тому +153

    Sheik says “Listen to the Serenade of Water to reflect upon yourself.”
    That last part “Reflect upon yourself” made me suspicious that perhaps Sheik knew about the Dark Link fight and was giving Link a hint about the illusionary room. 🤔
    Because when Navi just gives Link the advice of “Conquer yourself” he is, by fighting Dark Link, concurring the darkness within himself. Aka, reflecting upon himself.
    Also since before you even walk over the small island in the middle Link has a reflection, but once you do pass over the island his reflection is gone and he literally has to fight his own reflection.
    Do you understand what I’m getting at?

  • @Agaettis
    @Agaettis 4 роки тому +33

    "Their actions speak a lot louder than words"
    *ghirahim boogying *
    Me: ahh...yes I see....

  • @XX-sp3tt
    @XX-sp3tt 4 роки тому +216

    I honestly prefer Vortex's theory that Dark Link is Link's emotional damage rising to the surface for him to overcome.

    • @doctorwyvern9992
      @doctorwyvern9992 4 роки тому +19

      X X it could also apply to the Shadow Link in Zelda 2. They are both embodiments of Link’s own dark emotions he must conquer. The only difference is we know nothing of the hero in Zelda 2’s past, so we don’t really know what his struggles were and they affected him.

    • @archmdc370
      @archmdc370 4 роки тому

      Does that make it an ID, then? Like Freddy Krueger?

    • @RobbWes
      @RobbWes 4 роки тому +6

      Are her videos still on UA-cam? I watched them when she was still around and they were good.

    • @archmdc370
      @archmdc370 4 роки тому +5

      @@RobbWes VortexxyGaming's videos are still available, yes. I miss her, too.
      ua-cam.com/users/VortexxyGaming

    • @firionkaiser8291
      @firionkaiser8291 3 роки тому +2

      @@doctorwyvern9992 Well the fact he fought Ganon and all his minions in Zelda 1 (who are very tough mind you) at the age of 10 seems like a good enough reason. After Zelda 1 he tries to keep peace by becoming a knight of Hyrule until his next adventure in Zelda 2 at the age of 16. Seems like there's a lot of reasons why he would have a shadow in Zelda 2.

  • @sethw590
    @sethw590 4 роки тому +84

    In the 22 Years of OoT, I NEVER knew that Link's reflection stopped at the tree. That is awesome!!

    • @kaitylerson811
      @kaitylerson811 Рік тому

      I had no idea he turned conscious if you just stare at him! I always just defeated him right away! I had no idea he turned into an actual shadow enemy with red eyes like that! THATS AWESOME! i beat that so many times.

  • @dantesner2051
    @dantesner2051 4 роки тому +491

    What’s with the reporter style narration? Dude sounds like Trisha Takanawa from Family guy

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 4 роки тому +16

      nnn this is why nnzelda is the best, Back to you Tom

    • @drwily
      @drwily 4 роки тому +24

      that's just my voice lol

    • @Doctor.Internet
      @Doctor.Internet 4 роки тому +11

      @@drwily Perhaps you should get a new mic so you can work on those high tones, it does drill into the ears with longer talks, I don't mind the commentary or anything it's just the high pitch noise of your voice I don't know whether it's after production or your mic quality, but if it was toned down a bit it would be a lot more pleasant to the ears, there are guides for microphones to pick on youtube.

    • @Zappieroth
      @Zappieroth 4 роки тому +12

      @@Doctor.Internet Ah good I am not the only one who gets put off by listening to this guys voice.

    • @ZeranZeran
      @ZeranZeran 4 роки тому +27

      Dr. Willy I have heard you speak normal plenty of time. you are trying to sound like a tv announcer or something.

  • @nonoctoro4933
    @nonoctoro4933 4 роки тому +57

    Adventure of Link : Link's Shadow, a creation of the King of Hyrule and the finale challenge of the Great Palace, since the one who will retrieve the Triforce of Courage is expected to be King, he will have to be able to defeat itself. It is quite literally our Peter Pan-like Shadow.
    A Link to the Past GBA : Those Dark Links are not Evil per say, as seen by the Fat Fairy, the Pyramid was not quite a creation of Ganon and existed before him invading the Sacred Realm as a thief, before it became the Dark World.
    *"Actually, only true heroes can enter this palace.*
    *Actually, this palace is here precisely for heroes like you."* - Gatekeeper
    They are the Shadows of each of the four heroes created by the Four Sword's powers. It was waiting for a Hero to appear.
    Link's Awakening Switch : It seems to be an aspect of the Shadow Nightmare taking our form, it exists within an artificial dungeon tho, it's not even clear how we even enters it, they are just stone slabs.
    Ocarina of Time : The Dark Link of the Room of illusions, it starts as our reflection getting astray, at first it's not evil as long as we are not hostile against it, being hostile against your reflection is falling into self hatred, into your own Darkness. Staring into it on the other side might also cause it to gain more and more Darkness, looking deep within yourself. It's a reflection acting as a sponge to our own Darkness, the darkness of our heart. I don't think Ganon had anything to do with it, it was a trial of the Water Temple.
    I think the world we fight Demise and the Sacred Realm are the same thing, they are a mirror to our heart. This illusionary place acted as the same.
    Oracle of Ages : Veran is the Priestess of Darkness in the Japanese, she can assumes the form of a Dark Soul and possess the bodies of people. She used those pillars with eye symbol to produce those Dark Links, they are not sentient and copy Link, they are heartless so not really evil per say but made of Darkness.
    Four Swords Adventures : Created by the Evil in Ganon's heart with the Dark Mirror that was used to contain the Dark Tribe. They may be the remnants of Dark Tribe members trying to take form again in the world. Ganon gave them the shape of the Hero so to trick him.
    Twilight Princess : They are symbolic representations of the Interlopers who were consumed by their greed, controlled by their gigantic powers, they fell into their own Darkness in a way.
    Spirit Tracks : This "black Link" is the shadow of the Link of Phantom Hourglass, the TakeEmAll minigame seems to be set within an illusionary realm. The origin of these are uncertain ... might just be memories.
    A Link Between Worlds : Those are the Shadows of heroes from other realities, beyond Hyrule and Lorule. They are the reflections of those Heroes that we fight in yet another illusionary realm. Gramps might be involved with their creations and some theorize he might be an old Hero himself.
    Tri Force Heroes : The final guardians of the Den of Trials, made of the same cursing energy as the monsters fought previously. They were meant to oppose the Tri Force Heroes we are, a trial for the ultimate Outfit. They assume a similar role to ALTTP's ones.
    Breath of The Wild : "Shadows in mind" "monster born from Darkness" It seems that Kilton's research on monster led him to somehow see the same Dark Link as OOT's which should only exist in the Hero of Time's heart and mind, perhaps it somehow persisted in the Darkness...

    • @NintendoBlackCrisis
      @NintendoBlackCrisis  4 роки тому +11

      Excellent breakdown! Can't believe I missed that quote in the palace of the four sword lol.

    • @javiervasquez8995
      @javiervasquez8995 4 роки тому +4

      I assume the King of Hyrule created Dark/Shadow Link through the Power of the Triforce. If that is the case one could argue that most incarnations of the character have to do with the Goddesses *testing* the Hero rather than some evil entity/Demon trying to corrupt or control him. 🤔

    • @caseycook9589
      @caseycook9589 3 роки тому +2

      You just wrote a book, I wonder how many times you messed this up, but unbelievable breakdown👍👍👌

  • @SchriyJ
    @SchriyJ 4 роки тому +20

    HOLD ON A MINUTE! I can't be the only one that noticed how throughout all of the main Breath of the Wild trailers there was a major theme around the line "open your eyes". And now the first thing that we see in it's much darker squeal's trailer is Ganondorf, the (assumed) main antagonist of the game, opening his eyes towards our heroes Link and Zelda. Huh. Great parallel Nintendo!

  • @Croton
    @Croton 4 роки тому +25

    Really interesting theory!! I never really looked too far into the origins of his character, but you guys explained it perfectly!! Amazing job, as always!! 😄

  • @pr0ntab
    @pr0ntab 4 роки тому +885

    Dr.Wily... I understand you're trying. Just relax and be conversational, your audience appreciates your authenticity. Embrace that, sorry for the harsh words earlier.

    • @bashaaksema94
      @bashaaksema94 4 роки тому +86

      Im sorry but I kinda agree
      Also it might just be his accent that he pronouces it that way

    • @thechosenjuan9877
      @thechosenjuan9877 4 роки тому +93

      Oh so it's not just the way he talks? Cuz I hate it too

    • @spadezap9728
      @spadezap9728 4 роки тому +42

      I mean I agree, but we can't do anything about that, it's his voice. He can't change it.

    • @KingSlendy
      @KingSlendy 4 роки тому +41

      I used to not care about his voice because I didn't even pay attention to it, but since I saw a comment mentioning his accent I can't unhear it and it really bothers me

    • @RethaiN
      @RethaiN 4 роки тому +14

      Ding dong you are toxic

  • @GothTk14
    @GothTk14 4 роки тому +33

    If my memory serves in the manga of four swords adventure Shadow Link had his own personality and decided to help the heroes at the end

    • @just_hage8862
      @just_hage8862 3 роки тому +3

      Idk if that’s cannon tho

    • @HypercomboProduction
      @HypercomboProduction 2 роки тому +1

      @@just_hage8862 what about Ravio? He is a Dark Link that no one talks about.

  • @sgtmaggi
    @sgtmaggi 4 роки тому +14

    I went to the comments after I heard Wily's voice. Damn guys, some of you go all in.
    The voice was irritating at first, yes. I propably won't watch much of his channel, yes. But give the guy a break lmao. It seems like that's just how he talks like he said here multiple times. It's kinda heartbreaking seeing all of the replies from him on some really harsh comments.
    Wily, keep doing what you're doing. It seems like you've got a following and that's awesome!

    • @Lunar_Crescentfall
      @Lunar_Crescentfall 3 роки тому +2

      Same... its just how he talks.. Its ok for others telling him to try and improve but at the end of the day, it is how he talks and it doesn't really bother me that much.

  • @servantrider7044
    @servantrider7044 4 роки тому +10

    For the record "Yami no Shinden" can just as easily translate to Shadow Temple correctly. This is because the word 'yami' translates to dark or shadow, and depending on context or sentence usage can even have other translations such as 'opaque' as in impossible to see through, or shady (literally or figuratively). Japanese is a context-sensitive language.

  • @RyanHaney55
    @RyanHaney55 4 роки тому +8

    Very intriguing. I've never stood still in the water temple to see Dark Link stand still, or faced him long enough to see him turn solid with red eyes. That makes it even creepier.

  • @carrington8185
    @carrington8185 4 роки тому +304

    I wish I could watch Dr.Wily’s videos. But I can’t. The cadence of his voice is just... too much. (Sorry for being a hater. I hate me too)

    • @savannahaldridge1110
      @savannahaldridge1110 4 роки тому +39

      Carrington went to the comments to see if I was the only one... this makes me feel a little better. I certainly don’t mean any harm by saying it but his voice is really off putting and i actually jumped when he started talking

    • @ARentz07
      @ARentz07 4 роки тому +29

      He doesn't use the tones of his voice to convey anything. Every sentence sounds the same.

    • @Demanufactur3r
      @Demanufactur3r 4 роки тому +4

      I agree.

    • @bashaaksema94
      @bashaaksema94 4 роки тому +2

      @@savannahaldridge1110 same

    • @michaelthem3
      @michaelthem3 4 роки тому +22

      Not a hater, you're stating a truth. I think Dr Willy can improve that, his content is good, but that voice makes it unwatchable after a few minutes. I can't watch 2 videos of his, one after other.

  • @AncientGamerChris
    @AncientGamerChris 4 роки тому +266

    My god I cannot stand when this guy is featured in videos. That voice makes it so hard to focus. @.@

    • @sgsuperkiddan
      @sgsuperkiddan 4 роки тому +14

      Same, but he gives good info, I've been subbed to him for a while. He might even talk like that for a reason, I just dont know what that reason is.
      Edit: comma's

    • @drwily
      @drwily 4 роки тому +35

      @@sgsuperkiddan its just my voice :(

    • @sgsuperkiddan
      @sgsuperkiddan 4 роки тому +5

      @@drwily it's fine I love watching u, u are amazing man! ;) u make good videos.

    • @thepoppets1052
      @thepoppets1052 4 роки тому +4

      @@drwily Big rips my guy

    • @jenniferchough
      @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +34

      @@drwily - No, it's not your voice, sir. There's nothing wrong with your voice. It's your pattern and tone. Those things can be learned and unlearned by anyone. I work with kids and their speech patterns. It takes recognizing the issue and practicing. That's all. I am not sure where you learned this pattern but you CAN definitely do something about it with some time and effort. If you want a career in broadcasting in any format, I would suggest you look into it a bit.

  • @drwily
    @drwily 4 роки тому +143

    I love you nintendo black crisis! Thanks for working with me ;)

    • @sgsuperkiddan
      @sgsuperkiddan 4 роки тому +5

      I'm subbed to u man.

    • @idk4755
      @idk4755 4 роки тому +4

      Hey, always do your best. If you’re happy with your work, then you’re winning. Also, great work!

    • @coolpie
      @coolpie 3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for working with meeeeeeeee

    • @markieuzumaki7056
      @markieuzumaki7056 3 роки тому +3

      Get married

    • @majinriley9776
      @majinriley9776 3 роки тому +4

      You sound like one of the Hardly Boys from South Park.

  • @WarmLillie
    @WarmLillie 4 роки тому +20

    Shadow / Dark Link... A dark magic duplicate clone of Link of the Hero. All ready to battle and challenge the hero.

    • @midnights2631
      @midnights2631 4 роки тому +1

      And that's why we need him in the game more

    • @javiervasquez8995
      @javiervasquez8995 4 роки тому

      Would be cool if the "Zonai Hand" in BotW 2 were to slowly "corrupt" Link during the story of the game until fully turning him into Dark Link. That would be a good reason to allow Zelda to become playable.

    • @jennifersingson-pena7392
      @jennifersingson-pena7392 3 роки тому

      OwO

  • @6thhistory
    @6thhistory 4 роки тому +13

    The featured guy sounds like he's commentating a horse race. You gotta relaaaaaaaaaax bro.

  • @jamesscott5353
    @jamesscott5353 4 роки тому +5

    I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos NBC.
    Thank you for expanding my knowledge on the greatest video game franchise ever.

  • @midnights2631
    @midnights2631 4 роки тому +5

    Dark/Shadow Link is one of my favorite antagonists

  • @Hi-Im-Gib
    @Hi-Im-Gib 4 роки тому +4

    "Shadow Link's Dark origin"
    (Meanwhile in an alternate dimension)
    "Dark Link's Shadow origin"

  • @gusjanuary1729
    @gusjanuary1729 4 роки тому +10

    You should read the four swords manga, Shadow Link plays a large part in it and you get to find out a lot more about the character and his origins. He even sees character development throughout the story, it's also a good read and I would strongly recommend everyone to read all of the Zelda manga, they're actually amazing and really expand on the story.

    • @kylajensen1957
      @kylajensen1957 Рік тому +2

      I love how in that Manga, Princess Zelda and Shadow Link converse, and she points out to him that since he's a dark reflection of Link "[he's] a hero, too".

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 Рік тому +1

      The mangas aren't canon to the games though, even if they are a creative take on the story.

  • @its_addi
    @its_addi 4 роки тому +7

    I think of dark link being an embodiment of fear and hatred that is burried deep within link. I think of the dark link fights like the cave scene in the empire strikes back, where luke "kills" vader, only to see his face under the mask, because his greatest fear is tirning to the dark side.

  • @Chemical_Argentum
    @Chemical_Argentum 4 роки тому +3

    "Once you make it past the tree, your reflection suddenly dissapears". Damn! Never noticed that xD

  • @omniscientomnipresent5500
    @omniscientomnipresent5500 4 роки тому +6

    There is still something to say about spirit tracks dark link ! He has his ph apparence, use of objects and music who seemed to indicate that you were facing a past version of yourself that you overcome !

  • @aviator4
    @aviator4 4 роки тому +14

    God, what's with that guy's cadence? It's almost as bad as the Burger King foot lettuce guy.

    • @jenniferchough
      @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +8

      He keeps saying "it's just my voice" when it's not. it's his cadence, pattern, and tone. something that can definitely be learned and unlearned. god, i hope he tries to unlearn it.

    • @DarthZ01
      @DarthZ01 3 роки тому +1

      @@jenniferchough tons of people have like a stage voice, like I've seen videos before of people comparing recorded videos and Casual conversations and noting just how different their voices sound, or explaining how their casual conversation voice has slowly morphed into their stage voice after they do videos for multiple years.
      It's honestly not hard to change your voice even just temporarily, coming up with a much nicer voice just for videos.

  • @elitegamer9310
    @elitegamer9310 4 роки тому +2

    Every
    Villain
    Is
    Lemons

  • @puline397
    @puline397 4 роки тому +7

    I wouldn't dismiss Spirit Tracks as a minigame, it might seem so, yes, but that lady has connections with some powerful forces. She has actual portals leading to some other realm, which suspiciously look like the Dark Realm. I think she's Malladus's (or Ganon's) minion or at least worked for him and wanted to send Link to his death.
    7:05
    Dark Link doesn't come from Ganondorf's magic imo. The mentioned characters said Ganon's curse caused the ice. He only placed Morpha there, but the room of illusions wasn't his doing. I think that the room was an inbuilt mechanic of the temple, used to test who came in, and the Dark Link was a shadow entity of the entering person, here Link. As you've noticed he doesn't attack you unless you attack him. If he was Ganondorf's creation, he would've attacked Link right away without letting you film him :P so he served as a test to conquer yourself, the same way it was done in AoL, in my eyes. Ganondorf's curse might've caused him to become more hostile, hence why he attacks after waiting for way too long, who knows, but he wasn't so from the start. So overall I think it's a shadow of the hero under dark influence :)
    7:35 You made it sound as if the sages used Demise's power to seal off the sacred realm.
    Well yeah, the magic seems similar, but it doesn't need to mean it has the same source. It could be just a representation of how magic looks like in Hyrule.
    Good video nonetheless :)

  • @matthewdickendasher1956
    @matthewdickendasher1956 4 роки тому +4

    I love how they establish these dark characters from previously established characters and new ones. I hope they explore how demise got his sword ghirihim. Maybe the gods created many goddesses in many universes maybe they knew about demise’s curse and created many versions of hyrule to see who can defeat his evil.

  • @KryyssTV
    @KryyssTV 4 роки тому +5

    I'm sure that Dark Link has many origins and is not a singular character though. It is always depicted as being manifested by someone or something else, except in the interloper scene. We know that Zant calls the Fused Shadow their "old magic" and we know that the interlopers created it, therefore making the Twili the Interlopers and formerly Hylian themselves. As such, Dark Link's appearance in that scene is nothing but symbolic of a person succumbing to their darkest impulses just as the Twili did. That said, I've felt that Ganondorf is now played out and the series needs a new major villain to take over - Dark Link would be an ideal choice. They could then make this 'character' more than just a metaphor and plot device.

  • @nicklambo5828
    @nicklambo5828 4 роки тому +47

    This guys constant frying is infuriating

    • @jenniferchough
      @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +2

      YES OMG

    • @NobleLeader6
      @NobleLeader6 4 роки тому +3

      Frying?

    • @tsemiu
      @tsemiu 4 роки тому

      @@NobleLeader6 cooking in oil.

    • @NobleLeader6
      @NobleLeader6 4 роки тому +2

      @@tsemiu Going off of context clues I don't think it's quite that.

    • @gotenssj5
      @gotenssj5 4 роки тому +5

      @@NobleLeader6 it's that cracking sound your voice can make. Ever seen The Grudge? That sound she makes is fry

  • @AntiRiku
    @AntiRiku 4 роки тому +52

    1:41 Nooooo! Not that guy with the accent ...

    • @drwily
      @drwily 4 роки тому +9

      cheers

    • @wilhelmdietz4023
      @wilhelmdietz4023 4 роки тому +2

      To be fair, the guy had an horrific dutch accent a few years ago, sadly he has traded it in for this very exaggerated american accent.

  • @Shinesprk
    @Shinesprk 3 роки тому +3

    I never knew dark Link got more opaque and then got red eyes if you did nothing! I was always confused as to where the image of the black red-eyed dark Link came from because before now I had only seen the translucent eyeless version, but now it finally makes sense!

  • @Hurricane360
    @Hurricane360 4 роки тому +9

    This episode was Dark! Well done! ;)
    Also HI Spongeb- oh boy.

  • @agitodragoon3736
    @agitodragoon3736 4 роки тому

    You pumped out a video and a live stream in the span of one day
    What a madlad

  • @aquinprime
    @aquinprime 4 роки тому +1

    This is why I love theorizing Zelda lore just asking one question leads down a massive rabbit hole

  • @dekoldrick
    @dekoldrick 4 роки тому +8

    I never noticed the reflection disappears when you pass the tree.

  • @AZUREREV
    @AZUREREV 4 роки тому +83

    whO iN thE helL iS thaT seconD voicE

    • @drwily
      @drwily 4 роки тому +41

      me

    • @yaboilink2359
      @yaboilink2359 4 роки тому +10

      It's doctah wahwee.

    • @BlueInk404
      @BlueInk404 4 роки тому

      Dr.Wily why is there always only 11 likes on your comments

    • @AZUREREV
      @AZUREREV 4 роки тому

      Wh- I didn't expect a response from the voice himself.

  • @FleetwoodCrack
    @FleetwoodCrack 4 роки тому +1

    The vocal fry is strong with this one

  • @alexisblanco8545
    @alexisblanco8545 4 роки тому +2

    oh hell yeah i've been waiting for this theory

  • @mattzilla331
    @mattzilla331 4 роки тому +12

    Wow. I didn't know all that about dark link in the water temple. I always thought he was aggressive but he was only reacting to what I was doing! Mind blown. I also didn't know that about his health or that he grows darker and get red eyes. Is that in the original release or was that added to the 3ds version? Great video. I'm a huge fan so while I enjoy your videos i wouldn't say i learn much about zelda lore but i definitely learned something today.

  • @sirsquabblesauce9442
    @sirsquabblesauce9442 4 роки тому +53

    Hey NintendoBlackCrisis! Can you do a theory on who said “Help us, please” in the trailer to botw 2?

    • @midnights2631
      @midnights2631 4 роки тому +13

      Someone said that?

    • @short_boi5140
      @short_boi5140 4 роки тому +3

      He should

    • @Wm7forthewin
      @Wm7forthewin 4 роки тому +2

      hm

    • @redpetals4543
      @redpetals4543 4 роки тому +3

      I don't remember if it was him but im pretty sure it wont be covered since they understand that the human brain has a habbit of looking for patterns and words in things we cant understand. Meaning no one really knows what the trailer says. It's not something that can be understood just by speculation.

    • @sirsquabblesauce9442
      @sirsquabblesauce9442 4 роки тому +1

      red petals if you reverse the trailer, you can hear a woman say “Help us, please”

  • @thedoodlingdragonaj7550
    @thedoodlingdragonaj7550 4 роки тому

    Ahh the spooky yet satasfying sound of the twilight realm in the background that sounds like the start up sound of a certain console

  • @tkhunter4999
    @tkhunter4999 3 роки тому +1

    The antagonist of Mega Man helping a fan of Zelda? Boy, I’m in for a wild ride.

  • @alejandroantoniovaladezuva4504
    @alejandroantoniovaladezuva4504 4 роки тому +3

    I've always considered OoT's Dark Link as some sort of trial created by the zoras themselves. I mean, there are a lot of clues. The symbolism of the temple is cleansing, water as a purifier. Also, the room in which you fight him is a literal reflection: two identical doors, the water reflecting the white -roof- and of course, a reflection of yourself. Finally, Navi's description of Dark Link is not alarming, she only tells us to conquer ourselves instead of pointing danger or freaking out because of the shadow, the description is vague enough to make me think that maybe she already knew about it. Oh, and the shadow getting more and more opaque as the fight goes on may be related to what you said about Ganondorf's influence within the temple, maybe the trial wasn't meant to be perilous. It's one of my favorite locations in the Zelda universe so yeah, I've put a lot of thought to what that room means.

  • @michaelthem3
    @michaelthem3 4 роки тому +5

    Sounds like Dr Willy has been working to improve his voice, it's less singy and less nasal. Great! I hope he keeps improving it.

    • @pokefanlight
      @pokefanlight 4 роки тому

      I agree, I personal like Dr Wily voice. To me, it sounds soothing.

  • @charminochoa4603
    @charminochoa4603 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this vid soo much

  • @Penz
    @Penz 4 роки тому

    Yes great video on the origins

  • @4thkogm494
    @4thkogm494 4 роки тому +3

    4:54 I think that in that obstacle it is for whoever is worthy to get the triforce of courage they need to fight the dark side of themselves. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @sinead7241
    @sinead7241 4 роки тому +6

    Always loved Shadow Link. Was the best Mini Boss in my opinion!
    Edit: Spelling

  • @ScalyRaptor1944
    @ScalyRaptor1944 4 роки тому

    Ok video thats been in my watch later for months

  • @damyenhockman5440
    @damyenhockman5440 4 роки тому +2

    It's also possible that the illusory room in Ocarina of Time was part of the temple itself, which is why Navi says "conquer yourself", like it's part of the rituals. When that dark link turns opaque, that's the curse taking control of it, rather than it having been created by the curse in the first place.

  • @LW1996
    @LW1996 4 роки тому +13

    VIDEO IDEA:
    If this has already been covered, I apologize. I know you’ve talked many times about the possibility of time travel in BOTW2 in your videos. But what if, the Hero and Princess we see on the tapestry from 10,000 years ago are our current Link and Zelda but they just haven’t gone back in time yet. I know this isn’t how time travel worked with the timeline split, but you never know with these guys.

    • @hajimesenpai7996
      @hajimesenpai7996 4 роки тому

      Interesting theory!! I like it !! :3

    • @zeonmoo192
      @zeonmoo192 4 роки тому

      I've had that theory for a while too! I think it would be really interesting, but it also kinda creates a paradox

    • @Ryan-rv5em
      @Ryan-rv5em 4 роки тому

      Cool theory, but in terms of plot for the sequel, I think that it would be cooler if they are two different incarnations of the hero and the princess, but we still get to time travel, meet and interact with them. I definitely feel like your theory is possible, however.

  • @hsiiic
    @hsiiic 4 роки тому +16

    I can’t watch this now since I’m baking cookie

    • @carrington8185
      @carrington8185 4 роки тому +7

      OstrichClown I hope your cookie came out good!👍🏾

    • @willb2957
      @willb2957 4 роки тому +2

      Please update us on cookie.

    • @andpeggy6048
      @andpeggy6048 3 роки тому

      Yes did it taste good

  • @sharonmaguire2084
    @sharonmaguire2084 4 роки тому

    This is yet another great video

  • @mangodango1733
    @mangodango1733 3 роки тому

    I love how interactive the zelda yt is

  • @short_boi5140
    @short_boi5140 4 роки тому +3

    I noticed something you know ganondorfs head piece and calaminty ganons head has the same head piece I don’t know if it’s a coincidence they both have a circle center with lines going to it

  • @soltrice
    @soltrice 4 роки тому +63

    tip for the "annoying voice" guy
    i recommend trying a regular voice, like when you're talking to family or friends instead of trying to convince someone to buy your anti-acne cream lol

    • @PuffyBuffy25
      @PuffyBuffy25 4 роки тому

      Yeah I know who you're talking about.

    • @drwily
      @drwily 4 роки тому +9

      this is just my voice idk

    • @Matthew10950
      @Matthew10950 4 роки тому +7

      @@drwily I dont think hes talking about the sound of it, that you cant change. But have you ever noticed people reading text to people having a weird inflection? I think that's what hes talking about. Say the script like you'd talk to your brother on the phone. Unless you hate your brother. Actually...I would listen to that too.

    • @drwily
      @drwily 4 роки тому +5

      @@Matthew10950 yeah i know what he means exactly and in my next video on tuesday i tried to minimize that but i'm not sure if i 100% can, might truly be an accent thing since in my region we also have rolling Rs

    • @Matthew10950
      @Matthew10950 4 роки тому +2

      @@drwily I'll watch either way. Good luck, bro.

  • @pokemonfanatic45
    @pokemonfanatic45 4 роки тому +2

    I like to think that dark link has a awareness of self and probably views link as someone who is doing bad even if what link is really doing is good. He probably sees everything in an opposite view.

    • @playerofchaos6000
      @playerofchaos6000 Рік тому

      Yep, and since They're both seeing it in opposite's,, neither can figure it out without well- some form of help.

  • @LegendaryPokemon1221
    @LegendaryPokemon1221 3 роки тому

    The twilight realm music was the perfect backdrop to the topic of Dark Link

  • @HunchoMuncho14
    @HunchoMuncho14 4 роки тому +26

    I would’ve enjoyed this video more but that wily dude.. geez

  • @Littleton3513
    @Littleton3513 4 роки тому +6

    I appreciate that spongebob reference 😂

  • @fatalwaffle1715
    @fatalwaffle1715 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video!

  • @royboi034
    @royboi034 4 роки тому

    You are blessed to be able to play Four Swords Adventures with 4 players,i have never in my life seen that *bows before you*

  • @cutecheerfreak1
    @cutecheerfreak1 4 роки тому +6

    Hey Dr Wily, I don’t mind your voice at all, I find your cadence interesting ❤️

    • @joshdean5867
      @joshdean5867 3 роки тому

      No you don’t , your just a virtue signalling twat

  • @aqualacerta3961
    @aqualacerta3961 4 роки тому +4

    to me in ocrina of time dark link was supposed to be a trial for the hero, since water is often associated with spirituality, calm mind etc... when dark link appear the hero isn't supposed to fight it, but do nothing, "accept" it, like you have to accept yourself in real life, after a while of doing nothing the reflection of the hero would dissapear and the hero would be rewarded, but with ganondorf's curse, instead of dissapearing the reflection become more and more evil, until it stop mimicking the hero but attacking on it's own

  • @Crybaby-Media
    @Crybaby-Media 3 роки тому +2

    Link is based on Peter Pan.
    Remember Peter Pan had a mischievous shadow.

  • @McKnighty
    @McKnighty Рік тому

    I love that Dark Link attacks you if you wait too long.

  • @maskedduelist1380
    @maskedduelist1380 4 роки тому +4

    We neeeeed a Dark Link game.

  • @fierceditiesnaruto
    @fierceditiesnaruto 4 роки тому

    I love watching these! XD

  • @cory596
    @cory596 4 роки тому +1

    wily's words speak louder than his actions

  • @soul-crunchy9748
    @soul-crunchy9748 4 роки тому +12

    When ur so early that nobody disliked the vid
    (I didn’t dislike I liked)

  • @TheAbdID
    @TheAbdID 4 роки тому +13

    I haaaate the voice of the other guy damnnnnn

    • @drwily
      @drwily 4 роки тому +5

      thanks

    • @berryscreamin
      @berryscreamin 4 роки тому +4

      @@drwily your voice is perfectly fine, people are just not use to hearing it

  • @LaLa-pn8nj
    @LaLa-pn8nj 4 роки тому

    This is very interesting. The Zelda universe has many puzzling mysteries.

  • @jack7673
    @jack7673 4 роки тому +1

    The way they explain the battle of dark link in ocarina of time reminds me of the episode in infinity train called the chrome car

  • @Luragon9876
    @Luragon9876 4 роки тому +56

    I don't wanna be an hater.
    But to be completely honest, Wily's voice is absolutely unbearable to me. Pls don't do vids with him anymore or atleast indicate in the title of the video that he voiced parts of the content.
    Thanks.

    • @willb2957
      @willb2957 4 роки тому +5

      Not to mention that many of his theories are just flat out incorrect. I mean, it is just a theory I guess but this guy just ignores tons of evidence.

    • @drwily
      @drwily 4 роки тому +9

      @@willb2957 do tell which videos you mean? also i do my best and this is just how my voice is

    • @Kurotaisa
      @Kurotaisa 4 роки тому +4

      Well? What are you waiting for?

    • @Luragon9876
      @Luragon9876 4 роки тому +3

      @@drwily again, it's not against you. I don't mean to hurt you. It's just that... i mean, read my comment i guess. Don't have anything else to say...

    • @Gamerzpluz
      @Gamerzpluz 4 роки тому +2

      Naw man his voice ain't bad, its fine.

  • @BramRose
    @BramRose 4 роки тому +66

    Honestly, i had to click off at 2 minutes in. I just couldnt with that "voice". Its not his voice exactly, but how he talks and drags out words. Kinda bummed since i was looking forward to this video, that i now cannot watch.

    • @jenniferchough
      @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +7

      yeah i had to stop, too. I just couldn't continue on, it was like nails on a chalkboard. too bad since i was really looking forward to this content.

    • @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
      @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 4 роки тому +4

      @@jenniferchough ....I have NO idea what You guys are talking about. . . the video seemed good to me..

    • @jenniferchough
      @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +5

      @@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy - if you read further down in the comments, you will see we are not the only ones. his way of speaking is really unnatural and unsettling. you're lucky it doesn't affect you at all but for a lot of us, the video was unwatchable unless i turned off the volume completely and just used subtitles.

    • @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
      @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy 4 роки тому +3

      @@jenniferchough when I posted that, I then re watched the entire thing and I Noticed it. I just didn't really feel like re hunting down this thread to comment about it....
      but yea, his speech was kinda uncomfortable to listen too. word for word, it was exactly as *G D* described it, it wasn't the voice that was what was terrible, but was basically in the manor he ended each sentence. though, strangely I just didn't even Notice it until it was brought to my attention when I found this thread.
      kinda made me think how the heck I didn't pickup on it on my own during my first watch. . .

    • @Nitroade24
      @Nitroade24 4 роки тому +2

      I watched the whole video then went to the comments and I was like "What are they talking about?"

  • @Chiamy
    @Chiamy 4 роки тому +1

    I've never played four swords however I have read the manga and tbh Shadow Link is amazing! Idk how accurate the manga is to the game but he's super amazing :)

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 4 роки тому +2

    The bad thing about the dark Links created by Veran, the sorceress of shadow, they can't attack, they just copy you but in opposite direction.

  • @KeyofTime15
    @KeyofTime15 4 роки тому +4

    Everyone who's saying Dr Wily's voice is annoying needs to shut up, his voice is perfectly fine and he's a really great theorist in the Zelda community

  • @jaisenroa4219
    @jaisenroa4219 4 роки тому +6

    Why do people hate Dr. Wily? he's really cool.

    • @jenniferchough
      @jenniferchough 4 роки тому +2

      It's not HIM per se; it's the way he uses intonation and inflection when he narrates. Dr. Wily himself no one has an issue with.

    • @joshdean5867
      @joshdean5867 3 роки тому

      His voice is fucking ridiculous and it’s something he can genuinely easily change.

  • @smixsix3307
    @smixsix3307 4 роки тому

    With a title, topic and thumbnail like that who wouldn’t be excited to watch this vid ?

  • @blazedultimate
    @blazedultimate Рік тому +1

    Personally in ocarina of time I think shadow link isn’t evil, but the temple testing link to see if he’s worthy, to see if he can as Navi states “face himself” and come out victorious

  • @mazhabib
    @mazhabib 4 роки тому +8

    I know y’all don’t like wily’s voice but you don’t have to comment about it. Most people doesn’t go to someone and say “I hate your voice”
    Wily, your voice is beautiful.

    • @pokefanlight
      @pokefanlight 4 роки тому +1

      I personal like Dr Wily voice. To me, it sounds soothing

  • @ayaankhan8743
    @ayaankhan8743 4 роки тому +7

    Leave Dr Wily alone, his accent isn't even that bad.

    • @pokefanlight
      @pokefanlight 4 роки тому +1

      I personal like Dr Wily voice. To me, it sounds soothing.

    • @tsemiu
      @tsemiu 4 роки тому

      It's his affliction not accent people dont like. I don't mind it. But it does make it sound scripted. It is but it sounds that way.

  • @segevstormlord3713
    @segevstormlord3713 2 роки тому +1

    I continue to want to take the Dark Links and weave them into a coherent story where they are either the character himself, or a product of his actions, spawned from the Hero of Twilight showing the scary side of the Triforce of Courage as he bends his will towards finding a way to get to the woman he loves.

  • @someguy5003
    @someguy5003 3 роки тому

    I always thought shadow/dark link are the embodiments of the fear that each link has. It is a literally face your demons to become the hero situation with it fighting the most fearful or most headed to be tested, most notably the hero of time who was terrified of a lot of things of which one was the fact that he was hurled forward in time.

  • @cheetoh3149
    @cheetoh3149 4 роки тому +22

    Lol, the second guy that started talking needs to reconsider his ways of speaking, you're not a telemarketer, pls stop talking like you're trying to sell stuff or is in a commercial from the 90s.

    • @benpowell-punmaster1214
      @benpowell-punmaster1214 3 роки тому +1

      Nachopie it’s difficult to change how you speak, especially if they’ve been speaking like that for a long time.

    • @joshdean5867
      @joshdean5867 3 роки тому

      @@benpowell-punmaster1214 it’s ridiculously easy to change tones and Rhythms of your voice , do you never hum along to a song or sing ? Or shout or use any other tone that just a pitchey drowney noise ?

  • @jessejay1104
    @jessejay1104 4 роки тому +5

    Imagine having a day too day conversation with Dr. Wily?
    I don't think you'd make it to the end of the day before you rip your ears off. Sorry. Let me rephrase that. "I dooon't thiiiiiIIIIInk you'd maaaaake iiiiiit to theeeee ennnnnnd ooooof thhheeee daaaay befoooooee you riiiip your eaaaaaaarrrrrrrsssssss offffffff.

  • @firedtnt2600
    @firedtnt2600 4 роки тому

    At 12:14 the thing in the cutscene that rises behind them looks like the one-hit obliterator from Breath of the Wild, there could be a connection.

  • @StatchanaReborn
    @StatchanaReborn 3 роки тому

    8:30 goddamn that scared the sh*t outta me