The Title Screen Paradox in Ocarina of Time (Zelda)

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2019
  • Probably one of the strangest areas in the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is actually the title screen. It's a window into the game world that we never normally have access to. We see Link as an adult before we even know we are to become one. But what if we were to wrong warp to the title screen in OOT? And what if we took that Link that is present there, and tried to figure out where he actually was within the story? What we find ourselves in is indeed a paradox... and the start of a Zelda mystery that is pretty darn confusing.
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    Written, researched, and filmed by SwankyBox.
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    Songs from Zelda BOTW OST
    "Korok Forest (Night)" - Breath of the Wild
    "Rito Village (Night)" - Breath of the Wild
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  • @errousmasterofchaos69
    @errousmasterofchaos69 4 роки тому +4198

    Secret new game "legend of zelda a link with no past"

    • @SwankyBox
      @SwankyBox  4 роки тому +379

      The alternative thumbnail for this video said "The Hero Without A Past" - so you're certainly spot on!

    • @spaghetti9098
      @spaghetti9098 4 роки тому +57

      Now this will line up with the dark timeline

    • @kylelove4078
      @kylelove4078 4 роки тому +15

      Lmaoo good one

    • @alejandrogutierrez3789
      @alejandrogutierrez3789 4 роки тому +12

      This Link is an imposter! Stolen Valor!

    • @harleyoyelade9988
      @harleyoyelade9988 4 роки тому +15

      I love that title they should make a game like that

  • @adriannaranjo4397
    @adriannaranjo4397 4 роки тому +1755

    "We gaze upon Shiek's legs as if they were the Master Sword, and admire it from afar"

  • @runnersdialzero1244
    @runnersdialzero1244 3 роки тому +231

    Programmer: **throws garbage data together to make the title screen functional**
    SwankyBox: Did Link's childhood actually exist?

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei Рік тому

      Games aren't programmed. They explode into existence. Atheist scientists have proven your religious ways are obsolete.

    • @not_gaminggamer521
      @not_gaminggamer521 Рік тому +2

      LMAO

  • @SBlazeable
    @SBlazeable 4 роки тому +2115

    “Link cant turn into a child, cant open the door of time and cant glitch through walls” yep, and thats what makes him the most relatable character in gaming history

  • @mysti_fay
    @mysti_fay 3 роки тому +813

    It's a dream. Link is asleep, dreaming of riding across Hyrule Field on Epona. It's why he can't remember how he got there and why everything's a little off and not consistent with the real world.
    And when you start the game? ...He wakes up inside his house in Koriri Forest.
    >>You never really remember the beginning of a dream, do you? You always wind up right in the middle of what's going on.

    • @Robin93k
      @Robin93k 3 роки тому +57

      This makes way to much sense...

    • @roaringthunder115
      @roaringthunder115 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah

    • @QuintetMagician
      @QuintetMagician 3 роки тому +31

      I like this theory! It seems totally plausible. Maybe it's a vague premonition of what's to come...

    • @steevelapointe1152
      @steevelapointe1152 3 роки тому +6

      even the song of the menu(fairy's fountain) sound like a dream, lolll,maybe not...

    • @Vitor20XX
      @Vitor20XX 3 роки тому +3

      But when he is in a dungeon, he sleep there? Lol

  • @cjam777
    @cjam777 4 роки тому +534

    It's an alternate timeline where he naturally aged 7 years and found the tools along the way

    • @Skycrusher
      @Skycrusher 4 роки тому +57

      I think the same as well. It's a timeline were Link either never opened the Door of Time to the Master Sword, or he did and just never pulled the Sword. There can be a number of reasons why, too, Maybe Ganondorf found a way to achieve his goals without needing to open The Sacred Realm. Or perhaps what if Link was somehow deemed worthy and able to weild the Master Sword as a Child thus was never sealed away for 7 years in the Sacred Realm. What if one of Ganondorf's minions, say, Koume and Kotake, had a vision or prophecized Ganondorf's defeat by the Hero of Time.
      What if Ganondorf WAITED............bided his time........held his hand..........and just slowly crept towards his goal in such an incremental way it was almost impossible to stop or notice him?

    • @meganparrish807
      @meganparrish807 4 роки тому +31

      @@Skycrusher I'll bet that makes this Link the one from the defeated timeline, we're getting a glimpse of the one who died.

    • @Skycrusher
      @Skycrusher 4 роки тому +39

      I'll run with that. Head canon: Ganondorf wins, by all means and sense of the word. But as years pass, he realizes he'll never achieve any victory or success again. His greatest foe, the Hero of Time, the weilder of the Tri Force of Courage gone. That's a milestone he'll never achieve ever again. Perhaps, after he obtains the Tri Force of Wisdom, he can realize this. Complete domination and rule of Hyrule and all the lands is empty and fruitless. What he truly enjoyed was watching his perfect plan finally unfold just the way he wished. And finally, obtaining the Tri Force of Courage.....finally weilding all three and gaining God Like status......he had the Courage............to undo his victory.
      Reverting Hyrule....or rather, creating a new Hyrule, as it once was. Bringing Link back....bringing Zelda back. Relinquishing control of the Tri Force of Wisdom and Courage back to their "true" owners. And informing them....that he's already won. That now they have another chance. To let the games begin anew. Round 2, if you will. To test himself, against Link and the world all over again. To put truth back in the original threat, that he will always return (not possible if he isn't defeated)
      That there can be no light that does not cast a shadow. That darkness has no purpose or meaning without light. Daring fate and the Goddesses themselves to defy him once more. In the end, all Ganon really wanted was acknolewdgement. That, and a better life, a better world, for his people, the Gerudos. Head canon, some where out there, in some version of Hyrule.....sits Ganondorf and Link. Not across from one another....but side by side. Sipping Lon Lon Milk.......
      Ganondorf: .....wanna go again?
      Link: ...... *Finishing his milk and setting it down* Hyaaah!
      *And both stepping out. The Dude Bros they always were*

    • @wtflol6969
      @wtflol6969 4 роки тому +5

      Skycrusher that’s pretty awesome haha

    • @morgankasper5227
      @morgankasper5227 3 роки тому +3

      @@Skycrusher i would play hang out with ganondorf simulator or chill with the jobros simulator as long as theres a save feature and its not like animal crossing so i dont have to worry about hvaeing to start all over despite saveing

  • @NathanSifuGaming
    @NathanSifuGaming 4 роки тому +108

    I never would’ve dreamed that “title screen link“ was an actual saved game state, existing out of conventional means, I just assumed it would’ve been 3-D objects moving along a set path.
    Very cool information to come by!

  • @Wignut
    @Wignut 4 роки тому +879

    Breath of the Wild Link: I miss my friends.
    Wind Waker Link: I miss my sister.
    Link's Awakening Link: I miss Marin.
    Ocarina of Time Intro Link: I miss my childhood

    • @Depressed_Dandelion
      @Depressed_Dandelion 4 роки тому +102

      Majora's Mask Link: I miss my fairy.

    • @TRquiet
      @TRquiet 4 роки тому +105

      Skyward Sword Link: I miss Zelda.
      Twilight Princess Link: I miss having hands.

    • @zakaiworrell2910
      @zakaiworrell2910 4 роки тому +52

      Spirit tracks Zelda: I miss my body.

    • @harryportfelikartakredytow8907
      @harryportfelikartakredytow8907 4 роки тому +31

      @@TRquiet post-twilight princess Link (and me): I miss Midna :((

    • @bfkc111
      @bfkc111 4 роки тому +2

      wat

  • @gabrielbaez8849
    @gabrielbaez8849 4 роки тому +2118

    This is where link goes when you aren’t playing the game

    • @amadman5988
      @amadman5988 4 роки тому +126

      I thought he went to super smash bros

    • @black97_0
      @black97_0 4 роки тому +29

      @@amadman5988 not since ultimate
      Unleash if you mean the kid version

    • @spyrooooo8601
      @spyrooooo8601 4 роки тому +10

      Well he must've been doing this for months now (I got majora's mask and I 100 percent it but I'm still playing with the glitches I tried doing an item glitch from majora's mask but it doesn't work oot is to smart)

    • @phoenixthegrandanomaly236
      @phoenixthegrandanomaly236 4 роки тому +6

      He sits in a black void, One Shot style

    • @Octo4533
      @Octo4533 4 роки тому +3

      He's gone to Nintendo of Hyrule to ask if he can be in the new Smash for Nintendo 64.

  • @shieldlesscap6124
    @shieldlesscap6124 4 роки тому +1914

    Oh so THAT’S where BotW’s timeline is

  • @ridureyu
    @ridureyu 4 роки тому +825

    Fourth timeline confirmed: this is where the CD-I games came from.

    • @HeliosimWorld
      @HeliosimWorld 4 роки тому +33

      And the cartoon

    • @dantesdiscoinfernolol
      @dantesdiscoinfernolol 4 роки тому +62

      Gee, sure is boring around here...

    • @JumptheTrench
      @JumptheTrench 4 роки тому +12

      ridureyu lmfao. Makes sense. All them pretty wacky

    • @flying_Night_slasher
      @flying_Night_slasher 4 роки тому +33

      @@HeliosimWorld well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me princess.

    • @tuamatrem8304
      @tuamatrem8304 4 роки тому +28

      *i'm so hungry i could eat an octorok*

  • @Gigamex2
    @Gigamex2 4 роки тому +58

    From a story perspective, this Link seems to be one who was supposed to have been sent back to his time by Zelda after defeating Ganon but something went wrong between the magic of the Ocarina and the Master Sword/Temple of Time. This would explain why he doesn't have the Ocarina of Time because he already gave it to Zelda at the end of the game, but he would have the Fairy Ocarina because it was a gift from Saria so he would have held on to it.

  • @Broman973
    @Broman973 4 роки тому +119

    when you extrapolate the hell out of a common game glitch: "I've been rambling on for a bit now.."

  • @kisshu1993
    @kisshu1993 4 роки тому +720

    This makes me wonder about majora's mask opening link

    • @luigi95-
      @luigi95- 4 роки тому +17

      kisshu1993 i think is simply a video

    • @kisshu1993
      @kisshu1993 4 роки тому +31

      Luigi Rinaldi still it makes me wonder about it

    • @skullkid8094
      @skullkid8094 4 роки тому +30

      Or even the windwaker and twilight princess openings

    • @Tosmasta00
      @Tosmasta00 4 роки тому +32

      @Andy
      You can warp to the Twilight Princess opening. I done it myself quite a few times.

    • @kisshu1993
      @kisshu1993 4 роки тому +3

      Tosmasta00 really how that turned out

  • @brosephthomas3764
    @brosephthomas3764 4 роки тому +376

    This game never ceases to fill my brain with fond memories of my childhood.
    I miss my secluded house in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by bushes, and nothing but an N64 with some great games to pass the time when it was raining, or too dark to play outside.
    CastleVania: Legacy of Darkness, SM64, OoT, Majora's Mask, 007: Golden Eye, Smash Bros, DK64, Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire, Pod Racers, Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, Mario Kart 64, Yoshi Story, Banjo Kazooie/Tooie, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Glover, and many more...
    These N64 games started many of our lifelong obsessions with Nintendo ❤️

    • @hiyashifalcion118
      @hiyashifalcion118 4 роки тому +2

      Duuuuuuuuuuuuude. I thought I just imagined Glover, I could never get past the first pirate level, where you fall a huuge way down into the body of water. Ooh such good times

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 4 роки тому +1

      It was a magical time for sure

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 4 роки тому

      It was a magical time for sure :)

    • @JustinL614
      @JustinL614 4 роки тому

      Nothing compares. Magical.

    • @duchessedeberne3909
      @duchessedeberne3909 4 роки тому +1

      Wonderful selection

  • @herosshade2247
    @herosshade2247 4 роки тому +883

    "I knew I already cleared it one hundred percent, so booting it up wouldn't offer any new adventures."
    Oof, I feel that so hard. I call it "Post-Zelda Depression". It's incurable, but can be treated with challenges like 3-heart runs, finding fun glitches and exploits, speedrunning, and rom-hacks like randomizers. Ask your doctor if this is the right treatment option for you. Results may vary.

    • @AlejandroOdom
      @AlejandroOdom 4 роки тому +26

      How I felt after beating Breath of the Wild for the first time.

    • @SegaDream131
      @SegaDream131 4 роки тому +7

      I want a hack that makes the ocarina a weapon......

    • @DavidLazarusLong
      @DavidLazarusLong 4 роки тому +42

      My dad once played through the original LoZ on NES with the wooden sword. To put some perspective on that, each Darknut needs to be hit 64 times to kill with the wooden sword. He beat both quests and only died 7 times.
      7. Freaking. Times.
      He WAS the legend.

    • @shambles07
      @shambles07 4 роки тому +1

      @@DavidLazarusLong but, TLoZ NES doesn't have a wooden sword

    • @pixelpi3s
      @pixelpi3s 4 роки тому +11

      @@shambles07 are you sure about that...

  • @Jess-I-Guess
    @Jess-I-Guess 4 роки тому +260

    I love how your videos aren't just archives of mechanics, but actual stories told about the protagonist within these weird game mechanics. It's really different.

    • @thedamian314
      @thedamian314 4 роки тому +3

      its a pretty creative way of stretching the video out, yeah

  • @TheTurnipKing
    @TheTurnipKing 4 роки тому +204

    Huh. you know, this Link COULD the the end result of completing the game. A walking paradox.

    • @weebjeez
      @weebjeez 4 роки тому +89

      I like this concept. To fully realize it, let's go a bit further:
      Zelda wanted to give Link back his childhood. And did exactly that. However, the timeline couldn't exist, as it did... not without Link's sacrifice. So, rather than making it "not exist", Link was split into two souls: the boy from Kokiri Village and The Hero of Time.
      The Hero of Time became Title Screen LINK. He had all the skills, knowledge and items of the adult timeline, but... his past was something that was foreign to him. The only remembrance he had being an ocarina from years long past. An important relic, for reasons he could not comprehend. And, not knowing what else to do, LINK went on to use his skills and equipment to confront the great evil of the land and slay him, protecting the timeline by saving the princess, so that she could send the boy from Kokiri Village back to his home... But forcing LINK to forever be trapped in a loop... Of being sent back to the past... Of forgetting his childhood... Of defeating Gannondorf.
      But... the boy from Kokiri Village was not content with this separation. He clearly still remembered the adult timeline, rushing to Zelda and informing her of Gannondorf's betrayal. But he didn't end his adventures there, as Zelda had intended... He decided that even though she had "saved" him from being needed in Hyrule... The adventure had not been a burden. He had yearned for it. Strived for it. Lived for it. And he missed it. And so, he rode into woods, preparing to leave Kokiri Village behind... but along the way, he bumped into a devious child... wearing a peculiar mask.

    • @mistermista2927
      @mistermista2927 4 роки тому +5

      @@weebjeez Au.... tism....

    • @princenobody5595
      @princenobody5595 4 роки тому +3

      Guido Mista ok

    • @segafan1316
      @segafan1316 4 роки тому

      @@weebjeez in conclusion: F for Adult Link

    • @weebjeez
      @weebjeez 4 роки тому +16

      @@mistermista2927 What... what does that even mean? You think I have autism... because I know how to write a story?

  • @TetraBitGaming
    @TetraBitGaming 4 роки тому +384

    Where does this fit in the official timeline? 🤔

    • @benjaminnewlon7865
      @benjaminnewlon7865 4 роки тому +8

      Hey tetrabit!

    • @gwg2813
      @gwg2813 3 роки тому +5

      Can you do a Lost Bits episode on Hitman? Or Hitman 2?

    • @pingaspearce9403
      @pingaspearce9403 3 роки тому +4

      @Low Tier BBCFactory before or after hyrule warriors?

    • @MahoneyBadger
      @MahoneyBadger 3 роки тому +2

      😂

    • @sinnamorolls
      @sinnamorolls 3 роки тому +13

      Adult Link; Link fails to defeat Ganon. Final hour before Hyrule is sealed and everyone, including himself, is killed.

  • @reedime5396
    @reedime5396 4 роки тому +33

    There some OoT game developer who is watching this video thinking..."Wow, this UA-cam guy has some issues"

  • @darkmason52
    @darkmason52 4 роки тому +858

    I think you just found the timeline BOTW is in lol

    • @bowens9211
      @bowens9211 4 роки тому +24

      Took you 4 hours 2 long to find that 0ut

    • @kainthedragoon8081
      @kainthedragoon8081 4 роки тому +57

      A timeline that shouldn't exist. Created by a cracked Ocarina of Time

    • @Ano0onymouse
      @Ano0onymouse 4 роки тому +12

      BOTW is in all timelines

    • @kalebramirez7327
      @kalebramirez7327 4 роки тому

      I don't get it 🤔

    • @deflectyou4460
      @deflectyou4460 4 роки тому +12

      Alix Fidare It’s official from nintendo. All timelines end up having breath of the wild due to hanson resurrection being interrupted in every timeline. (Actually I think he is only in the hero is defeated timeline and the hero is triumphant adult era because child era is done.)

  • @ProtoVee
    @ProtoVee 4 роки тому +448

    "Give it a few timely doots" - SwankyBox

    • @PENlS69
      @PENlS69 4 роки тому +25

      @Mr. Mc. JuggerThicc I'm pretty sure that text face is 10x more cringeworthy..

    • @ScumSookar
      @ScumSookar 4 роки тому +1

      @@PENlS69 Oh it is.

    • @bfkc111
      @bfkc111 4 роки тому +1

      The guy sucks at talking.

  • @johntheslider5802
    @johntheslider5802 4 роки тому +21

    Even though I wasn't even born the year it came out, you make me feel like a kid back in 1998.

  • @5h0ckblock
    @5h0ckblock 4 роки тому +179

    It's end game Link after Zelda sent him back in time. He still had all his items, then he grew up normally. Meanwhile while he's aging normally, his past self, the Link you usually play as, is going through the game as normal, but because end game link warned everyone of Ganondorfs actions, it creates wierd time paradoxes, for example the Deku tree being alive.

    • @JinteiModding
      @JinteiModding 4 роки тому +3

      Sup

    • @jordanjoestar9096
      @jordanjoestar9096 4 роки тому +9

      So I'm not the only one who noticed this

    • @jordanjoestar9096
      @jordanjoestar9096 4 роки тому +2

      I just had a thought though. The deku tree died when link was young because of the curse set upon him that when the Ghoma queen (a parasite) died it would kill the deku tree almost as if that's what was keeping the deku tree alive to have something to feel and prey on whether it dies or not the deku tree comes back regardless also apparently in every timeline or something like that they all wraparound back to the breath of the wild events

    • @lilchristuten7568
      @lilchristuten7568 4 роки тому +7

      @@jordanjoestar9096
      The great deku tree didn't exactly die because of Ghoma though, it died because of Ganondorf's curse (which Ghoma was probably a part of).
      The Link who was sent back in time was the Link with the triforce of courage (the triforce of the goddess who created life), so that Link could actually save the great deku tree.

    • @thewizardninja
      @thewizardninja 4 роки тому +4

      @@lilchristuten7568 This all depends on when exactly he was sent back to. From the way that final cutscene with Zelda plays out I have my suspicions that he was only sent as far back as the first time he entered Hyrule Castle Town, which would mean that the Deku Tree would already be dead.

  • @Hafiz100ify
    @Hafiz100ify 4 роки тому +168

    You not only broke the game, you broke my mind

  • @Woots
    @Woots 4 роки тому +353

    Dang it, SwankyBox, you've created the 4th branch off of OoT in the timeline!

    • @SwankyBox
      @SwankyBox  4 роки тому +52

      That will have to wait for another video! This one is all in good fun, but I suspect there is actually a 4th branch that should technically exist.

    • @Woots
      @Woots 4 роки тому +6

      Oh! That sounds like a lot of fun! I'll keep a look out for that video!

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 4 роки тому +5

      the 4th timeline is hyrule warriors taking place after four swords adventures. the noncanon timeline

    • @Kellestial
      @Kellestial 4 роки тому +4

      LPFan if the watch Game Theory’s video, he makes a good point at proving that if Hyrule Warriors was cannon it would make sense why the three timelines converge into one during BOTW (not bottom of the well)

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 4 роки тому +3

      the problem with that is that the objective of hyrule warriors was to prevent everything from merging. and the only interaction diffrent timelines had in that game was that short fusion between child(where the game takes place) and adult. downfall was not even part of the picture. so no,I dont see how that could be the case unless there are events after that game.
      Not to mention that it makes more sence to say the timelineconvergance is just an easy way for nintendo to get out of the mess they have written themselves into and botw actually happens after zelda2 and the references to child and adult come from the royal family once having used the tryforce to share the knowledge of the multiverse with their own hyrule and that event was just forgotten,all three timelines were assumed to be mere legends as the diffrent tales from link wins and link loses contradict each other. adult cannot even have botw and child is very unlikely as that timeline ended with ganons reincarnation getting sealed in the foursword.

  • @stinkymetalhead200
    @stinkymetalhead200 4 роки тому +47

    Shakespeare: He threw the ball
    The ELA teacher:

    • @morgankasper5227
      @morgankasper5227 3 роки тому +5

      he moved his arms in such a way that the ball was released from his grasp and flew through the air in the worst way possible hitting the coffe mug full of coffe and the cup was pushed by the ball off the table and fell due to gravity and the cup broke into a million shards spilling lots of coffe everywhere and the person in the room who teaches sent him to detention

  • @Bvajen
    @Bvajen 4 роки тому +69

    I'd totally forgotten just how huge his nose is in this game.

  • @FMHikari
    @FMHikari 4 роки тому +27

    It's seems to be based more on the expectation of what a hero looks like. A grown young man, riding a horse, sword and shield ready

  • @TheMexicanLynx
    @TheMexicanLynx 4 роки тому +5

    From a development standpoint, I believe the save file reflects an earlier state of development, when OoT didn't had a child Link (since he was written into the game super late and was the reason the game was delayed from 1997 to 1998, so because the stones were an "Ocarina item" and not an inventory item, they're missing from there, for example

  • @shawntraub7249
    @shawntraub7249 4 роки тому +7

    You find yourself in a world, unsure of how you got there, with various areas feeling "off," and are mixing up events from when you were a child? Clearly, the only way out is to wake the Wind Fish.

  • @PixelatedPerfection
    @PixelatedPerfection 4 роки тому +68

    Youve heard of the hero of time, but now get ready for "The hero of a broken timeline"

    • @thehumanstunlock7588
      @thehumanstunlock7588 4 роки тому +1

      plot twist, the events of child link not happening explain the rito and zora being in BoTW

    • @kappapride6332
      @kappapride6332 4 роки тому

      With your pfp it makes even more sense

    • @pingaspearce9403
      @pingaspearce9403 3 роки тому

      @@thehumanstunlock7588 no the events of hyrule warriors explain BoTW

    • @concludedhail40
      @concludedhail40 3 роки тому +1

      *Navi* "ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS PASS THE DAMN OWL, LINK!"

  • @beleques
    @beleques 4 роки тому +23

    I absolutely loved the video and was thinking about it the entire time, so I decided to comment the headcanon I built for this Link
    I imagine that this Link is from a fourth timeline, but one that already split before the ending of the game. Link went off to his adventure, taking the fairy ocarina and leaving the forest, but he never went to the princess. He just spent time doing nothing, until Ganondorf took over Hyrule. That’s when Link realized his mistake, his sloth as he did nothing and paid the price.
    From that point onwards, he spends seven years fighting off ganon, acquiring the master sword, awakening the seven sages and obtaining every item, feeling guilty for not being fast enough. And that’s when the intro kicks in.
    LINK, as the game calls him, is a version of him that was never destined to exist. He was supposed to save the world. So when you defeat Ganon, you finally rid LINK of his guilt, redeeming him as a hero of time.

  • @lakefish7743
    @lakefish7743 4 роки тому +26

    This is the link of the stories.
    No one really remembers the events in-between, only the successes and the origin. This link has all of the things he has earned on his adventures, yet anything not told in story is forgotten. No one but Link and Zelda knew he had the Ocarina of time truly; why would they tell anyone? Thus, it was Link's own power that opened the door of time so far as anyone knows... and as far as the game does. Who would have known, also, that he could go back to his younger state? What purpose would speaking of it serve? Thus, he can only have been seen as an adult in this adventure - he must've been a child once, which is why the child cutscene plays. He can still beat Gannondorf, as it was in the Old Tales.
    This is nothing more than the Hylian's view of the tale, not the True Link.. yet he has the Courage of the True Hero.

    • @JustinW332
      @JustinW332 2 роки тому +1

      and that goes back to a pretty small but important detail in the series. there's always some kind of legend that is told in each game. but while some parts sound familiar, the details don't all line up with what actually happened. probably because of how many times said legend was passed down.

  • @LOtLeal
    @LOtLeal 4 роки тому +13

    I think in this "TitleScreen" timeline. Link made him adventure without a timeskip. He passed all the 7 years defeating the bosses and taking itens.

  • @duckerdoo
    @duckerdoo 4 роки тому +10

    Therapist: The 4th timeline doesn't exist. It can't hurt you.
    SwankyBox:*introduces 4th timeline*

  • @DapperDemon
    @DapperDemon 4 роки тому +5

    never thought I'd see a fan fiction video about the Link that exists in OoT's menu screen in 2019

  • @ToaderTheToad
    @ToaderTheToad 4 роки тому +23

    The Game Theorists: Nintendo, we've fixed your timeline!
    SwankyBox: Hold my drink.

  • @DogratDavis
    @DogratDavis 4 роки тому +222

    It's almost like glitches or unintended alterations to video games might cause things to not make sense story-wise

    • @drennanwrye693
      @drennanwrye693 4 роки тому +5

      😂😂

    • @chrisnemat
      @chrisnemat 4 роки тому +17

      josh ch shhhhh let people enjoy things

    • @casualcrisis6349
      @casualcrisis6349 4 роки тому +3

      let people enjoy things

    • @Ghost-pv9rz
      @Ghost-pv9rz 4 роки тому +18

      Yeah, SwankyBox videos are usually annoyingly vacuous. He is good at making it seem like he's building up to something interesting, but in the end it's almost always pointless rambling. In this case he treats it like it's some crazy lore mystery when it's just developers putting in the minimum work necessary to get a functional title screen. Next thing we know he's going to start making videos explaining the lore behind gameshark codes.

    • @njacksonkc
      @njacksonkc 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah this dude is really making stone soup. Not to say I don’t like some of his videos.

  • @rtyuik7
    @rtyuik7 4 роки тому +19

    after resuming the video, i love the glitched cutscene, "its that LEG-endary blade..." xD

  • @X0mbieJesus
    @X0mbieJesus 4 роки тому +27

    What if this is where you go when Zelda sends you back in time. Because you changed the past so much from going back and forth through time, you end up in an unstable time loop. Forced to fight Gannon over and over again with the hope of one day getting to go home.

    • @dakotayupyupyup8377
      @dakotayupyupyup8377 4 роки тому +1

      Xombie Jesus until the day your time traveling gives information to the wrong people, and the Happy Mask salesman steals Majoras Mask from the Inca tribe, because of you, and you’re sent on a quest to go recover it.

    • @jonathantitterington6221
      @jonathantitterington6221 4 роки тому +1

      "The Legend of Zelda: Quantum Leap Edition"

  • @zachturner1773
    @zachturner1773 4 роки тому +32

    Maybe it’s The Link from BOTW and he woke up to Hyrule Field with amnesia.

  • @lindenbree9188
    @lindenbree9188 4 роки тому +20

    This reminds me of a story I wrote a while back from the perspective of a game character while the player glitches the game. The character doesn't understand what's happening and at first tries to rationalize things, but it gets progressively gets more insane and he freaks out. But, he finds his actions aren't his choice and he can't express his terror.
    Uh... point being, it is fun to think of meta game-breaking from the character's perspective. Makes me really happy they aren't actually self-aware though, poor dudes would be so traumatized

    • @sarahskelecat
      @sarahskelecat 4 роки тому +2

      Imagine Smash Bros

    • @lindenbree9188
      @lindenbree9188 4 роки тому

      @@sarahskelecat Yeah, I love the Palutena's Guidance in Smash Bros. since it addresses this sometimes. Like with another Pit, or with Young Link, Pit just has an existential crisis xD
      He also quotes Fire Emblem games he presumably played /while fighting Fire Emblem characters/. It's crazy, I love it x3

    • @grantkingston4355
      @grantkingston4355 4 роки тому

      @@lindenbree9188 can I get a link?

    • @lindenbree9188
      @lindenbree9188 3 роки тому

      @@grantkingston4355 I know I'm five months late but I've tried twice to send the link, it won't let me
      Go to someordinarygamers fandom wiki and the story is called "Flout"
      I don't use that site anymore though, haven't in years

  • @They_are_Arthur
    @They_are_Arthur 4 роки тому +93

    This is what actually happened in the Hero Fails timeline.

    • @tahirallita
      @tahirallita 4 роки тому

      nice

    • @thenifell
      @thenifell 4 роки тому +4

      But, he is alive?
      Unless he is a ghost, doomed to forever wander in a ruined Hyrule.

    • @They_are_Arthur
      @They_are_Arthur 4 роки тому +4

      @@thenifell Even though Ganondorf could be destroyed in this version, certain events have never happened before, causing the failed timeline.

    • @dariongage287
      @dariongage287 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe Zelda fucked up when he sent Link back to his child hood, now he’s in a time loop

    • @Link1205
      @Link1205 4 роки тому +2

      @@They_are_Arthur but the door of time was never opened. Ganondorf never reached the Sacred Realm. The Triforce was never broken into 3 pieces. This would have still been an Era of Prosperity.

  • @Kresu1993
    @Kresu1993 4 роки тому +60

    Game: It's just title screen
    SwankyBox: oH lOoK iTS aNoTHeR dImENsIoN

    • @stickflick
      @stickflick 4 роки тому +14

      I don't know what pisses me off more, the simple fact that it's the truth, or the fact that these people are all gobbling this up and accepting it as an actual probability. it's a fucking title screen. Also in before "lEt uS hAvE FuN iMagInInG DuMB ScEnaRioS"

    • @UltimateFeudEnterprise
      @UltimateFeudEnterprise 4 роки тому +2

      stickflick They’ve beaten Ocarina of time to death. Literally every aspect has been fkn analysed. Now we’re here studying the title screen LMAO.

    • @VakoCavender
      @VakoCavender 4 роки тому

      lol

  • @DGiovanni
    @DGiovanni 4 роки тому +6

    This is his life after the game, when Zelda sends him back in time to just live his life.

  • @Phearsum
    @Phearsum 4 роки тому +2

    *"Video editing can be pretty overwhelming"*
    Such a humble man. Hiding the agonizingly painful reality from all you who wish to embark on a journey through madness, tedious and time consuming analysis, and in my case, absolutely NO formal training.
    Wonderful video as usual, keep up the great content. :)

  • @LostSoulSilver
    @LostSoulSilver 4 роки тому +8

    This gives me a great idea for a fanfic, about a Link who lost his memory and everything in his world is weird and out of place, and he goes around on a new adventure to find out what's going on, how it happened and how to fix it

  • @BenCol
    @BenCol 4 роки тому +3

    6:46 Who knew the Door of Time was such a prankster? All one needs is a sound clip of Nelson Muntz going “Ha Ha!”

  • @DNPinthePP
    @DNPinthePP 4 роки тому +23

    “Hey look I just broke the game with glitches lol.”
    “Wtf why is the Deku Tree alive”

  • @lukefonfabre911
    @lukefonfabre911 3 роки тому +2

    "and transform into the child we actually never were" that's a heavy thing to say

  • @richcast66
    @richcast66 4 роки тому +26

    "If link were to wonder anywhere in this world, fragments of his broken timeline would begin to be filled in. And repair his broken reality"
    Hmm that sounds..familiar.

    • @justinb7542
      @justinb7542 4 роки тому

      Bioshock: Infinite?

    • @strcrt
      @strcrt 4 роки тому

      Justin B Breath of the Wild lmfao

    • @justinb7542
      @justinb7542 4 роки тому

      @@strcrt I guess it depends on whether or not those fragments are factual events or something his mind made up to make the narrative make sense.

  • @jasonjuneau
    @jasonjuneau 4 роки тому +4

    Adult Link can never visit The Deku Tree while it was alive.
    SwankyBox : "Hold my Lon Lon Milk"

  • @thewtfverse9763
    @thewtfverse9763 4 роки тому +185

    I need to get my N64 out of the closet

    • @Nintentoad125
      @Nintentoad125 4 роки тому +8

      Mine is in my attic but I can’t find all the old games I had

    • @theallaroundnerd9889
      @theallaroundnerd9889 4 роки тому +31

      Good for him, it's 2019 he doesn't have to be scared anymore.

    • @yvbofficial
      @yvbofficial 4 роки тому +3

      You have one just chilling in the comfort of your closet ready to be pulled out at any time?
      Lucky you😪

    • @thewtfverse9763
      @thewtfverse9763 4 роки тому +4

      @Reel Of Cubes lol

    • @spartankongcountry6799
      @spartankongcountry6799 4 роки тому +5

      Bro my dusty old n64 still works, meanwhile my xbox 360 wont even start up.

  • @johnrildo2325
    @johnrildo2325 4 роки тому +4

    This reminds me of the title screen glitch for Twilight Princess, where you restart the game while Link is sinking in quick-sand at just the right moment, and it results in letting you control Lin in the title screen. Then you can die, save the game, or do some other things to have all kinds of different effects.

  • @TheOneGuy1111
    @TheOneGuy1111 4 роки тому +19

    And people say Breath of the Wild was the first Zelda game where you can just run straight to Ganon's castle from the beginning.

  • @JustAHat
    @JustAHat 4 роки тому +14

    tbh id like to see a creepypasta or smth made out of this

  • @BrendanPappas
    @BrendanPappas 4 роки тому +18

    “When I was a wee lad” 🤣

  • @GrimmFLawless
    @GrimmFLawless 4 роки тому +16

    This isn’t silly at all. It’s true role playing by using one’s imagination to fill in the gaps of consistency. This was awesome

  • @Chronicsonic23
    @Chronicsonic23 4 роки тому +2

    With all the time traveling going on in the Zelda series, this is the space-time continuum collapsing.

  • @senorlechuga8832
    @senorlechuga8832 4 роки тому +6

    Cool. Now the timeline is really messed up and my brain is fried from overthinking

  • @goblinmcgameface
    @goblinmcgameface 4 роки тому +29

    I always wanted to go around the Mario Galaxy title screens - of which I mean Galaxy 1 & 2 - and explore there planets.

    • @gamerdogthedog
      @gamerdogthedog 4 роки тому +1

      Omegalul

    • @Akay4444444444444444
      @Akay4444444444444444 4 роки тому +1

      I've always wanted to play on some of the stages in Smash 64 you can't normally use in multiplayer, like the How To Play video stage or the 1P mode only stages

    • @goblinmcgameface
      @goblinmcgameface 4 роки тому

      Angrywolf 378 I mean fly around it. I spoke about the planets for 2.

    • @aluni4045
      @aluni4045 4 роки тому

      @@Akay4444444444444444 now you can. You just need to install a mod called "Smash Remix". It has an expanded Stage Selection screen and also expands the roster adding 4 new characters, but only in the VS Mode.

    • @aluni4045
      @aluni4045 4 роки тому

      @@Akay4444444444444444 the expanded roster is only in the VS Mode, but the expanded Stage Selection screen can still be used elsewhere.

  • @T101G
    @T101G 4 роки тому +10

    Me: sees a video about playing on title screen
    Skyward sword glitches: exist

  • @Gwynhyvr
    @Gwynhyvr 4 роки тому +6

    I think the interesting thing about this particular Link is that... you know, he has all these things, but he's still yet to _earn_ them, almost like he came across a fallen hero's stash and was guided through each trial to earn them proper. If we then assume the Master Sword can only be wielded by the Hero of Time, which is supposed to be a hero reborn in the time of the world's need, t5hat would place Link either as the true hero, or a swordsman/adventurer unable to actually use the blade, instead relying on the GK/BGS.
    There's a lot to think about on this theory, and it's gotten me curious.

  • @lwvmobile
    @lwvmobile 4 роки тому +36

    The Title Screen world is the future world that no longer exists just before The Langoliers swoop in and wipe it out.

    • @zenmaster60
      @zenmaster60 4 роки тому +1

      YOU'RE SCARING THE LITTLE GIRL

    • @IamTheSnowman4
      @IamTheSnowman4 4 роки тому

      Which is why at the start of the game link is waking up.

    • @slimebuck
      @slimebuck 4 роки тому

      what the hell is this guy talking about? Langoliers??
      On a side note, anyone hear that weird munching sound? Sounds like someone eating something? It started as soon as I read that comment, and its getting louder and louder....

    • @Technical0Difficulty
      @Technical0Difficulty 4 роки тому

      Not everyone will understand your reference, but those that do will savour it.

  • @Chewychaca
    @Chewychaca 4 роки тому +8

    This is simply a link who never did anything and aged naturally

  • @Hazaak.
    @Hazaak. 4 роки тому +2

    He probably doesn't have the ocarina of time because we gave it back at the end of the game, seem like his inventory is just that way because we give the stones to door of time pedestal, close the door after the game and give the ocarina back. Story wise makes sense game wise just weird

  • @tf_d
    @tf_d 4 роки тому +1

    This is one of the first sponsors that I've seen in a UA-cam video that I've actually been interested in XD also amazing video, I love the feel of your videos, the way that you do all of the cinematics, and your passion for them. Keep up the good work! :D

  • @cristianrivera6719
    @cristianrivera6719 4 роки тому +6

    Ok so, Zelda creates a new timeline by sending Link back to the Child timeline, therefore separating the Adult timeline from the child timeline. This probably sent a ripple effect across time making him lose the fight against Ganon in the fallen hero timeline. Ok , makes sense

  • @imdone8243
    @imdone8243 4 роки тому +10

    Yes this is the cannon timeline from botw.
    A link lost in time

  • @codycevering2733
    @codycevering2733 4 роки тому +1

    Crazy video man. I have spent countless hours in this game since I was a kid, and never knew about this. Great job, very well done.

  • @rustyspoon4319
    @rustyspoon4319 4 роки тому

    I love your channel so much. Keep it up!

  • @JoeBob-rc3cp
    @JoeBob-rc3cp 4 роки тому +5

    It's the perfect adult timeline link: the timeline postulates that there are two remember, and this is one of them, the *adult* timeline link, with no recollection or evidence of the child timeline becuase as far as he is concered, it never happened.

  • @itzpeanut9904
    @itzpeanut9904 4 роки тому +13

    i could totally imagine a fanfic about this, explaining all the wierd circumstances

  • @siccmade3603
    @siccmade3603 4 роки тому +2

    So my link is still just wandering aimlessly in limbo? I haven't played in 15 years!

  • @reynemanzano
    @reynemanzano 4 роки тому +1

    The consciousness of universe exists even in game reality. You blew my mind bro. Not a silly concept at all. Love you you framed this analysis with a story perspective

  • @Nintentoad125
    @Nintentoad125 4 роки тому +25

    _when I was a wee lad.._
    That is for some reason the best thing I’ve heard all day

  • @OriginSpeed
    @OriginSpeed 4 роки тому +4

    This could be another timeline, Link has everything but he gave the Ocarina of Time to Zelda already, and now he's just in the future, maybe this is where Botw comes in, Link was asleep for years so maybe this is him in dream? I don't know but I think it's interesting.

  • @YunaMomoko
    @YunaMomoko 4 роки тому +1

    Great timing! I just subscribed to you a few hours ago and was sad that I had watched all your Zelda related videos already. xD

  • @ultamagam3r142
    @ultamagam3r142 4 роки тому +2

    From a story perspective what if this is what happens when zelda sends you back and you just normally age without the master sword sending you forward which kind of explains why it's inbetween both timelines

  • @TheBreakingBenny
    @TheBreakingBenny 4 роки тому +10

    I think there's something more to it, Swanky. If you were to disable the the interface while Link is in that scene setup w/ the title screen, the warps take him to other places (which doesn't happen if the interface is enabled).
    It's fair to say these scene setups had different transitions because the locations' positions changed during development. OoT and MM don't use FMVs, they're in real-time. A side effect is that they're bound to have notable differences once one looks deep enough.

  • @Salku_Chaotix
    @Salku_Chaotix 4 роки тому +12

    Swanky with a new OOT? Always liked these over MATPAT's crying videos.

  • @magoria1382
    @magoria1382 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for your videos! ♥️ Ocarina of Time has been my favourite game since 1999, those videos are so interesting to watch! There is so much to this game and thinking about it is kind of like thinking about how big the universe is! This game is a true master piece, it's weird how you and some other people here on youtube knows more about it or comes up with theories etc that actually makes sense compared to the actual creators of the game haha!

  • @Faygris
    @Faygris 4 роки тому +1

    I think, with Link not being around, Mido did all the heroic stuff, then somehow died and adult Link found and took his items to complete the task.

  • @lowfunk8466
    @lowfunk8466 4 роки тому +7

    >makes me cry everytime

  • @SilentPhoenix199
    @SilentPhoenix199 4 роки тому +3

    There was a gameshark code I remember where it put you in what seems like title screen world at night with no HUD and I think the lack of the ability to pause. You would then find out it would randomize entrances and you never knew where you'd end up next unless you memorized it. It was such a surreal experience about as much as this.

  • @a.b.szthedemorak6167
    @a.b.szthedemorak6167 2 роки тому +1

    That was honestly on of the BEST stories I'v ever heard

  • @eloujtimereaver4504
    @eloujtimereaver4504 Рік тому +1

    I always assumed this was the version of Link that was not raised by the Kokiri, and thus started adventuring as a young adult Hylian after Ganondorf's invasion, gaining the trust of the sages and gathering tools to liberate his homeland.

  • @_ourumavsbriefcase_5229
    @_ourumavsbriefcase_5229 4 роки тому +6

    "I love what I do"
    I'm glad. I know you'll bring great content as you always have. Thank ya, man🤠

  • @mookielagaras9195
    @mookielagaras9195 4 роки тому +3

    “Okay let’s glitch the game and pretend it’s canon so I can explain why it doesn’t work.”

    • @JesseColton
      @JesseColton 4 роки тому +1

      It's really obnoxious, honestly. I was really fascinated at first by what the world state would be like and he's up here spinning a narrative like this is some secret unlocked timeline he's discovered.

  • @zerg9523
    @zerg9523 4 роки тому +2

    Of all the existential problems i have to worry about, this is by far the worst...

  • @GiantBluEMarshmallow
    @GiantBluEMarshmallow Рік тому

    I've seen this in speed running but never stopped to think of the story implications. This is a very creative topic and I love nerding out on things like this. Great video! 👍

  • @gloamlady3451
    @gloamlady3451 4 роки тому +6

    Anyone else get a Donnie Darko vibe from this?

  • @ikanhazw1n
    @ikanhazw1n 4 роки тому +4

    Don’t tell Nintendo, they’ll make it a separate timeline branch...

  • @Mika-Hell
    @Mika-Hell 4 роки тому

    Good content i Subscribed for it , taking it from both Gameplay and Story perspective was a neat idea

  • @RayShadow278
    @RayShadow278 4 роки тому +2

    Perhaps this Link's story was different, one where he set out on a journey way later, as the king of evil didn't act as soon as he did in the original OoT timeline, leading to an older Link who *did* have his adventures, just from a later starting point. As for the Spiritual Stones, maybe in a preemptive strike the different tribes sent messengers with the stones to Hyrule Temple ahead of time? This would also mean Ganondorf would have no reason to plant Gohma inside the Great Deku Tree thus he still lives in the adult timeline.

  • @randytyson
    @randytyson 4 роки тому +4

    My theory is this is the link that went to fight in smash bro both young and adult

  • @sparrow6190
    @sparrow6190 4 роки тому +5

    Who cares about at all that, you can actually "beat" LOZ OOT from the title link. That's awesome

  • @nottechytutorials
    @nottechytutorials 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed your analysis of this from a narrative perspective, it was very interesting. I didn't even know players can play the game from what we see in the title screen, but there's always something new I'm learning now that I'm looking at trivia videos and seeing there was a whole bunch of secrets I wasn't aware of.

  • @hakuroacidalia3446
    @hakuroacidalia3446 4 роки тому

    I am so glad to know that I'm not the only one who sees random stuff like that in a game and start making a whole new story for that.