Breath of the Wild: Kass' Teacher UNMASKED
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2017
- Who knew the answer was in front of us the whole time...
Today, I look at Kass' teacher and try to figure out the identity of this person! Get ready, because we are going to go on quite a feels trip for this theory.
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Thank you to everyone who helped theorize/listen in the discord call as well as a special thanks to LoruleanHistorian for the translation quotes! - Розваги
Update to this theory: A viewer of mine shared a page from the Masterworks Book (also called "Breath of the Wild: Creating a Champion) that completely busts this theory. It confirms that the court poet had NO involvement in the ancient research.
Honestly not too surprised, since this is one of the worst theories I have done. Have a good day, guys!
NintendoBlackCrisis aye first like and probably the only person looking at a bunch of 11 month old Zelda theory videos lol
Hey guys new a sick legend of zelda name would be : Link & The 8th sage
Quick question, was Kass teacher the person who took the photo that you are rewarded at the end of Champion’s Ballad DLC? In English, it sounded like it was a female person who took the photo, but the photo was found with the notes of Kass’s mentor. So could the mentor just got a copy of the photo due to being part of the court? Like Kass’s mentor wasn’t the one who took the photo right?...Though Link’s name wasn’t called out during the photo shoot so with the whole jealousy thing going on, they could have pretended link wasn’t right next to zelda. Idk. Just curious on how Kass’s mentor got the photo as I doubt anyone could just get a copy of it.
@@TACtheDragonRider Purah was the one who took the photo. We know this because the person behind the camera yelled "Snap!" :)
Hey @NintendoBlackCrisis, don't know if this is related but there's an old sci-fi called Cherry 2000 about a robot an engineer falls in love with. Always thought it was an omage.
I like how literally every single character in BotW leaves their diary open for everyone to read.
What have they got to hide. They have a crush on link? What else is new??
Paya: Y-You can't read that!
Link: ok
Paya: *leaves open diary unattended*
Link: it's free real estate
@Chase Langford communist detected on American soil. Executive order exterminate in motion
Kirby with a gun is your pfp- MY DISCORD AVATAR WANTS A FIGHT!! (My discord pfp is a cat with a gun)
Just like in twilight princess, you can enter random people's houses
Hyrule warriors: I’m bout to end this mans whole career.
I was looking for a mention of this lol
@@YngolSonofYsgramor Yep, I was bouta comment it
i was searching this comment lmao
@@VictorOreoio Hyrule warrios age of calamity show the story before but changhes a litlle the story.
@@VictorOreoio it IS the period of time that link fell, but it's an alternate timeline because the scout guardian created a time portal to protect zelda. So robbie still would have looked like what he does in AoC
plot twist - Robbie's first love was actually Link
well now we gotta get aboard the love triangle... (or should I say triforce) Robbie, Link and Ghirahim
That... explains why he wants Link to get nekkid...
@@chiffmonkey nakey nakey!
😆
NO NO NO DO NOT RUIN THIS GAME FOR ME PLEASE!!!
Maybe Cherri is the nickname of the woman in Kakariko who grows the cherry trees?
S.F Productions *plum
Impa planted plum trees still a good thought
S.F Productions that’s exactly what I thought
Great theory, except they are actually plum trees.
Either that OR he means Cherry, the ancient weapon furnace and Robbie's crush
Kass said his teacher was dead. I can get with the idea with that one sheikah in the memory being Kass' teacher, but beyond that, I think he's just a nameless individual.
MaskedMildew I was just about to say that.
Click, Snap!
Dead could also mean who he once was is now gone replaced by something else something new.
Nick August No, not at all. Nintendo does not to use words in that manner. If they meant something other than actually being dead, they would have been explicit about. Nintendo has always been subtle but explicit, never subtle and implicit.
Groose
I refuse to believe that a man who has a crush on an oven taught the purest boi ever how to be the purest boi ever
1000% agree
Since when does Robbie have a crush on Cherry? The oven was named after his first love, but he doesnt have a crush on the oven itself...
@@thorwhoisacat just because... Just because.
Sorry, I don't buy it. Robbie says in his journal that he "spent so much of his life" researching the guardians (before the calamity), and then he went full-on researcher after the castle fell. There's no way he could also be the full-time court poet, and then eventually Kass's teacher once he was born. He'd have to be, you know, two different people.
Click, Snap!
This is not to mention that in order for Robbie to be Kass' mentor, Robbie would have to be, you know, *dead,* since it was stated Kass' mentor had died prior to the return of Link.
Exactly!
@@angelmendez-rivera351 I believe you missed the part where they addressed this contradiction in the video. 11:03
@@walrus2515 But they didn't address it. They pretended to address the concern in question, but ultimately failedz
Honestly, I can't get behind this because of the fact that Kass says that his mentor died several years prior to Link's awakening (hehe). Of course Kass will be sure that his mentor is dead, I would imagine him being close to his mentor. And I find no reason for Kass to lie.
Geronimo TRIGGERED
but yeah, I do get where you're coming from. Thanks for watching!
I agree, Kass's teacher is dead and it would make more sense if the sheikah warrior looking at Zelda was the teacher. The one who isn't in love with her is more interested in the dead guy which makes more sense.
One final thing is that Robbie specializes in ancient tech which would make sense because that's why he knows ancient songs. That's the one reason which is I'd think the theory is right but there are a few things that don't add up
There was no reason for Kass to hold off on calling Link the "appointed knight" when he likely knew it was Link all along. That's a lie of omission right there.
Geronimo lol nice pun
Also kiss did say that his teacher's home was in riot village
Why would a scientist also be the court poet?
Here's why: Click, Snap!
You sayin' scientists cant be poets? outta here with that. (this is sarcasm, I have to clarify because sarcastic text is hard)
I mean, my 2 strongest subjects are chemistry and music (music practical)
Bevsworld04 Yeah, many who are skilled in logic are also skilled in things like writing and music, and vice versa. A polymath, if you will. I’m a modestly skilled musician and wordsmith and have a very logic oriented mind, having long been fascinated by chemistry and physics.
However, Robbie is a powerful researcher and a skilled inventor. I cannot fathom a king looking at a highly skilled researcher and going “yeah, but your poetry is just like... more necessary to the kingdom, dawg”
There is zero chance of a full-time, king appointed court poet also being a Guardian researcher, ESPECIALLY leading up to a confrontation that could destroy the world. A court poet would almost need to be skilled exclusively in the arts alone, because any other valuable skill would most likely benefit the kingdom far more than reading poetry to Zelda...
End of the day, this Robbie theory is Swiss cheese, and probably the weakest thing NBC has released. He even admitted so himself.
There are warrior poets who not only fight the battles but also write and sing about them.
He is a scientist poet, who not only makes discoveries but also writes and sings about them!
Maybe robbie brought link to the shrine of resurrection along with kass' teacher. I mean it's more probable than kass lying about his teacher's death.
No it was impa and pura
“Dr. Purah and I had taken link to the shrine of resurrection to heal.”
I think you misssed it, but the theory is still busted.
“A piece of that personality” I see what you did there
I pointed out a joke, im funny
Alex Mand I don't get it wait post a time stamp
PixelDustGaming 457 1:41 is the time
MMMMMmmmmm personality
her tenassity is admirable
"We know that Kass' teacher is dead. Therefore Kass' mentor is robbie..... who is alive...."
Best theory guys, 10/10. No holes.
Robbie does mention that he is in a hidden area maybe he faked his own death in remorse of Zelda and links death
His *teacher* is dead. His *mentor* might not be.
It really is remarkable just how much stupider people are willing to be, just to shit on my Lady Ramkin account, but not on any of my other Lady-less accounts.
I don't wan't to accuse yall of sexism. But i will accuse you all of being fucking stupid.
First and foremost, the creator of this video has already commented proof that this "theory" has been debunked. So go bother someone else.
Estella, Good to see that your ability to make shit up rivals that of the video creators. Keep it up, you could be a writer someday. However, your speculation is not welcome or even wanted, so kindly fuck of.
pheonixGOD 2000, Stupid watch the video again. And kindly fuck off.
Anakin Skywalker.
1) This video uses teacher and mentor interchangeably.
2) The FUCKING TITLE IS ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE TEACHER.
3) The entire video makes it clear, SEVERAL TIMES, that it is implying Robbie is his teacher AND mentor.
4) Since you were not actually rude (Just stupid) I won't openly call you trash tier, but i will ask that you kindly fuck off.
Noah Park. Watch at 11:10
Where the video itself, admits that the Teacher being dead and Robbie not being dead is a massive fucking hole, and offers nothing but flimsy speculation to fill that hole. Since you have enough time on your hands to provide useless time-stamps, you could have instead just watched the whole video? So please kindly fuck off.
Now.
Will the rest of you stupid cunts actually watch the video all the way through. SEVERAL TIMES if need be, before bothering me again with your bullshit?
@@LadyRamkinFP jesus, keep your knickers on
ITS JUST A THEORY
ABOUT A GAME
why do you have to get so mad?
go to sleep and stop commenting on zelda theories and kindly acquire a life.
also are you serious? of course you have to bring sexism into the argument because who wouldnt.
ffs. and before you say im the one with no life after responding to this? yes, im aware. but im not angrily commenting on videos that are pretty much purely just for
ENTERTAINMENT. I personally dont know alot about Botw and actually enjoyed the video. you dont have to get SO MAD and call everyone stupid cunts. I wonder how long youve had access to the internet? You do realize that even though according to you the video is false, THERE IS NO NEED TO GET MAD. Go look up any other youtube video, there are thousands of other bad theories for you to comment on. Go to bed.
@@LadyRamkinFP ok, just go to bed lmao and try not to have your brain snap in half at how angry you are about nothing
In kass’s final song, the one he learned from his teacher, it says what happened to link, like how he shielded the princess and blocked guardians. Then this must mean that kass’s teacher was one of the two Sheikah tribe people.
I remember reading a journal in the ruins of the castle. It was by one of the cooks? (don't quote me on that). It says that he had a crush on the princess and wrote songs for her. But when he saw that she was in love with Link, it made him jealous. After Calamity Ganon struck, he survived and passed down his songs in memory of Zelda and Link. Pretty sure a quest is also given by a man who states that his (great?) grandfather was the cook this journal entry talks about.
Wait I never found that. I'm gonna try to dig it up tomorrow cause that would mean the mystery is solved!
Yes! I thought I remembered this too while I was scrimmaging through the castle. Glad I wasn't the only one. Sorry, I know your comment is a year old, lol.
Yeah I remember that quest.
I found that quest but never that journal. Does anyone know where it is?
@@kylemarut6741 I wonder the same thing. I looked every were in the castle and can't even found it. I even acidently found the shrine in the castle as I looked for that recipe book.
I'm sorry but I honestly just can't get onboard with this theory. If ones looking at Link and the other up at Zelda I'd reason it more towards Robbie being one and the other being the Teacher. Some of the other points seemed a tad stretched out of your way to have pieces fit
Overall nice quality of video and explanation tho
Maybe, but let me just bring up a couple of points. First of all, why would Nintendo bother giving us the explanation as to why Robbie named the furnace Cherry? It goes into such detail, and I doubt they would have done that if there was no other reason. And the fact that the area is called "Black Cherry Plain" in japanese seems like too much of a coincidence.
Thanks for watching!
NintendoBlackCrisis well nintendo gives a lot of info about chronological placement and they don't care about the timeline placement so...
Yolo Swaggins Same! While I like the video, the theory just feels a bit... Off. I love other theories this guy has made though, so if you do read this NintendoBlackCrisis (Will?) keep the theories up, just make sure the links are tighter
NintendoBlackCrisis Though, the end is much better!
Yolo Swaggins i agree
Idk if mine is a good theory or not, but I have a theory about the Blights. They arent just random Malice Creatures, they ARE the Champions, or at least their souls corrupted by Malice. Evidence:
-The Blights use the exact same weapons as the Champions. Wind uses a Projectile, Water uses a Spear, Fire uses a huge Sword, and Thunder has both a Shield and Short Sword.
-At least 3 if them use modified versions of the Champion powers. Windblight creates gales, Fireblight creates a protective sphere, and Thunderblight uses a barrage of lightning that does massive damage.
-You can only hear their voices once inside the Divine Beasts. THEY'RE GHOSTS! Why would they not just leave. King Rhoam traveled from Hyrule Castle to the Plateau, so why did they never leave? Because they got corrupted.
-Unlike every other enemy that isn't a Guardian, their faces are unseen. They wear masks. If anyone knows about Infinite from Sonic, this is a parallel situation. They use masks to change who they once were.
-If the Champions died, where are the bones? Bones don't decay, so with the exceptions of Rudania in extreme heat and Medoh where its windy, where are they?
Things that could disprove, and my response:
-Their spirits were trapped due to the Malice in the Beasts: And yet Rhoam came from Hyrule Castle. The area with the most Malice in the game.
-What about their weapons?: Even if they arent the Blights, no one but Link, Zelda, and the Champions can Access the Divine Beasts.
-What about a "Straight to Ganon" run? Why dont they talk?: They dont talk because you have no memory of them. Remember, each Divine Beast quest has a memory involved. (And no, I dont count getting the memory and then going to Ganon without freeing the Divine Beast. Thats nitpicking.)
But. The blights are the one that defeated the champions...
Zerkyran hmm that is true... also Calamity Ganon has (most of) their powers and weapons (what the Blights have) so in your theory, the (corrupted) Champions would also be in Ganon. I like your theory idea but some of it doesn’t make sense; the Champions got defeated by the Blights, and (Calamity) Ganon has most of their powers and weapons
I agree the Champions would be corrupted, since when you kill the Blight they are like “oh thanks for setting my spirit free” or whatever. But I think that they couldn’t leave the Divine Beasts because they had no body to travel in, unlike King Rhoam. But that could go reverse since a clip of them halfway killing Ganon shows them outside of their Beast ONLY once you set their spirit free. So I’m not sure.. it could go no or yes. If I was a theorist, then I could probably answer this more, but I like where you’re going with this theory
Okay so first off, if they were corrupted, then that alone would explain why there were no bones - the corruption needs something physical to latch onto. There is no instance in the entire game of there being corruption that isn't attached to something physical - corrupt growth is never once seen floating, and the closest thing to a 'spirit' corruption we get is the floating skulls that get spawned from corrupt maws.
Secondly, technically speaking, Daruk did not use a sword, but a paddle as a weapon. For that to have been a sword it would have needed a sharp edge, but the boulder breaker really doesn't have a sharp edge - none of the weapons the Goron use do. They're all paddles or drillshafts. And even if they're swung like swords, the edge that would be considered the blade is far too blunted to be considered a sword. The Boulder Breaker in particular is worth mentioning because it has an attachment at the end that very literally turns it into a flat-shafted hammer for all intents and purposes. As well, if Waterblight was a corrupted Mipha, then it would have been given a revival gimmick, which it wasn't.
Thirdly, and back to the bones thing because the first was technically supportive of the theory. If the bones of the champions were left behind, even if they didn't turn to dust over a hundred year span (because yes, bones decay, it is under specific circumstances that they don't) then when the Divine Beasts began moving, then the bones likely would have been shaken out of the beasts while they moved around, especially during the fight sequences that get you entry to them. The beasts are not fully enclosed at all times. They're usually wide open. Mipha's was literally underwater, and as the dam filled up, the water current would have likely washed the bones away. Daruk's was literally climbing the side of a mountain and was sideways, not to mention that his beast was on a volcano, which, um, I dunno if you know this, but VOLCANOES ARE HOT AS HELL. Have you ever seen Goron bones in BotW? Neither have I. So most likely those bones were turned to ash a long time ago. Revali's was flying, and everytime the thing turned, it was likely that their bones would roll off, nevermind getting caught in the air current and being blown out if they were on the inside. And Urbosa's beast was in the middle of a sandstorm that it was kicking up all on its own. Strong wind currents, again, would have blown the bones out.
Fourth and final point - did you forget that when you are first introduced to the Blights while inside of the Divine Beasts, each of the champions mentions that they were DEFEATED by said Blight?
@@yoran4067 They could of consumed them for more power?
I have a theory of my own. Considering Robbie asks to see Links scars and link wakes up in the shrine of resurrection boarder line naked, meaning someone would have undressed him. If that someone was Robbie and saw his wounds potentially Robbie was checking 1 how they healed 2 if he truly is link based on the same wounds he had when he was placed in the shrine of resurrection.
this sound like to much of a stretch for me, I cant believe one bit of it. the two guy's in the flash back look like plane and simple solders. Robbie has been a scholar all his life. and he hasn't left Akkala since he got there so long ago. Kass's teacher travailed around to collect the songs him self before teaching Kass the songs.
This is an incredible theory and I'm amazed that there's so much covering it, however there just doesn't seem to be quite enough evidence and Kass also said he died which kinda makes it hard to validate. Anyways this video was awesome and thank you for the hard work! Legend of Zelda forever! :)
Yup, I am definitely aware of the plotholes in this theory. Glad you liked the video though! :)
Maybe that's what Kass thinks.
But remember Robbie knows Link’s scars by sight. He had no medical training, how would he have known them? I think that it’s because he was one of the last soldiers to place him in the Shrine of Resurrection. Not only that but his diary entry also strongly suggested that he had witnessed Link’s fall with his own eyes, adding to the strong guilt he felt.
Super Secret People in Hateno thought Purah was dead because they'd not seen her leave her house in years yet she was fully alive. Kass might never have seen his teacher again after his teacher left. Him being an old man at the time Kass might have assumed that he died from old age or a monster attack in his travels. Unless somewhere he mentioned witnessing him dying or being laid to rest then his teacher could still be alive.
Garnet That's not how conclusions work, though. People thought Purah was dead, but she is not. However, there is no reason Kass would be lying or would he saying something he wasn't able to confirm, and contrary to the case of Purah, there is no canonical confirmation that Kass is wrong. What a character says is canonical unless the same canon proves it's wrong or a lie. That's a rule for every fiction.
Robbie became deranged after spending so long obsessively researching and waiting for Link. He eventually began forgetting or molding his memories, confusing names and acting erratically. This caused most of his friends and family to be pushed away, even his own son. Kass, his apprentice, even consideres the real him to be dead.
My theory: Link was the mentor. He hums when you make food, and he’s got a knack for whistling. There are clearly NO holes in this theory whatsoever, because Link did accompany Zelda, he did die, and he is a sheikah..wait... however... Granté, the son of Robbie and his hylian (?) wife still wears the sheikah garb in Tarrey Town, and I think he’d be considered half-sheikah. So clearly, link’s mother or father COULDVE been sheikah, and raised him in Kakariko (disregarding the theory that the hateno house was Link’s old house because it’s just a theory), so I think that with all that out of the way, it’s pretty clear that Link=Kass’s mentor.
This is a joke, please don’t end me
Lol
Actually possible
No joke
Herobrown 11 Lmao no one has proved me wrong yet
Kittria Leviana lol I was thinking about it then realized how link prob died before kass was born
Funny how we know what young Robbie looks like now, thanks to Hyrule Warriors.
"Is this the Krusty Krab?"
"No, this is quality content."
Barry Allen NO, this is PATRICK!!!
"No, but I got *c h e e z w h i z*
Um Patrick that’s the name of the restaurant
NintendoBlackCrisis fax
You do realize all of the evidence you pointed out about Robbie having a deeper connection with link as well as the whole black cherry field thing makes it sound like Robbie had a crush on Link... right?
Wait.. you’re right 😭
@@eatthelemon6666 Wait, omg i don't remember this video or making that comment and now I'm so excited to watch and find out why Robbie is gay for Link lmao
AHAHA eyes on link while he's dying. not at Zelda. Thinking about Link when he gets fort hateno. not Zelda. Is Familiar With ThE ScaRs On Links BoDy. please 😂
I don't know why he would have to lie about his lover's name being cherry if it wasn't but this is just very funny to me
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-NintendoBlackCrisis
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I don't know about Kass' teacher, but you have done an excellent job of convincing me that Robbie's first love was Link 😂
Great work, Will! I was smiling so hard watching this, the quality is top-notch. So glad we could work on this theory together, and thanks again for the shout out. Lorulean, out!
Nothing about this theory makes sense.
I disagree. It isn't perfect, sure, but it's a theory: and if you dislike the theory, then provide some counter points or constructive critique.
TGL Mudora a better question that's never been explained NOT ONCE IVE SEEN IT why, why does Kass know what the shieka slate is, there's little logic to it considering that he born born after the calamity started, so why.
Samuel Brown His teacher knew what it was. He most likely described what it looked like to him. And it bears a rather noticeable Sheikah Eye emblem on its outward face. I think he just pieced it together.
yah it dose your just ither not thinking about it or your stupid
2:14 or if we read the title!
Michael Withington-Walsh, exactly what I was thinking
Lol thought for a moment that I left a comment I forgot about on this vid because if your picture 😅
I think I finally figured it out after watching the last champions ballad memory. It has to be purah. She was the one who took the picture(guessing by the voice and the “click,snap!”) and kass said he found the picture in his teachers notes.
That Super Paper Mario music makes it more emotional
Also when the girl was taking the photo of the champions at the end of dlc pack 2,she said *"click,snap!"* and who else says snap? *Purah* and I would say Purah knows Robbie more than anybody else,so he could've got the photo and when kass was looking through his stuff,found the photo.
Yeah, I was also thinking about that! The mystery continues to get more and more compelling....
While a lot of the points of this video are very strong, I don't think it forms a cohesive whole very well. Robbie being present for Link's sacrifice makes sense, and one of the two Shiekah men present at the sacrifice being Kass' mentor makes sense, but the evidence as it is presented doesn't lend itself to Robbie being Kass' mentor. It relies too much on presented information being false, such as Cherry being the actual name of Robbie's first love, or Kass's mentor being dead. The theory isn't entirely impossible, but it's more likely that Kass' mentor is one of the unnamed Shiekah rather than being Robbie as part of an obtuse ruse.
I'm glad you finally brought up Robbie making Link show him his scars haha. It was driving me crazy because it is like RIGHT THERE! :3
And thus the theory got disproved by age of calamity considering we see robbie in that, and during the moment where the two sheika ninjas show up robbie has his signature hair, lots of flair and science coat
Yes I was just about to say this but it still would be possible that he wasnt the sheika there but still his kass teacher
@@zeldadude2040 He isn't. Kass already said he died sometime after Link was mortally wounded and Robbie is still alive by the time BOTW took place. Despite what the guy in the video said. Why would Kass lie about his teacher, a guy he's close to, being dead?
@@newtype5005, it could be a metaphorical loss, though. Maybe he means it 'from a certain point of view', as Obi-Wan would say. In that case, he wouldn't be lying about his teacher's death even if the git was still alive. He's likely mourning a man he once knew but no longer recognizes. That, to me, is a darker fate than death, at least in this franchise..
I hate to rain on your parade with disagreement but there is one major fatal flaw with this theory. And that's the fact that Kass's mentor was a court poet! While Robbie did write in his journal a lot about the past. There is no evidence to prove that he was ever a court poet. Also, I firmly believe that saying that Kass lied about his mentor's death is a weak excuse, just to grasp at straws as desperation to prove a theory right. While I forgive you for that, as I understand that you must've worked really hard on this theory. But no one would ever lie about the death of someone they cared about.
Also, have you ever considered the possibility that Robbie may have just been another one of Link's close sheikah friends? Remember that there were two sheikah there in that scene. And just because we see sheikah there, doesn't mean that one of them had to be Kass's mentor. For all we know, Kass's mentor could've held back, afraid to confront Zelda. Afterall, we do hear that from Kass, he said that after he watched Link take the fall for Zelda, Impa explained everything to him. So it's clear that he must of avoid contact with Zelda and went to talk to Impa about everything instead. which makes more sense for someone who loved the same girl as Link.
Usually the Jealous person is always trying to avoid contact after witnessing something like what Link and Zelda did. Also, the Japanese name for the place being the same as the robot and Robbie's first love is just a coincidence cause the English name is different. And lastly, I personally always liked the idea that Kass's mentor was actually Misko. Which makes more sense since he stole things from the Royal Family, likely because he was upset that he wasn't chosen as a champion, that Zelda chose Link over him, and even Rhoam wouldn't let him have Zelda's hand in marriage. But of course, he likely stole from castle before everything went array and witnessed what happened to Link and Zelda.
Feeling guilt and regret, he decided to atone for sins. Which is why he devoted his time writing journals to help Link find the items that he stole, adventuring to seek out more ways to help Link, mentored Kass so that his legacy would be helpful to Link, and even taught Kass songs to help Link solve the riddles to the trials. This, in my opinion anyways, seems to make more sense to me then your theory. I respect your theory. I understand you worked on this. But I just think differently.
You should make a video on who Link's father was. I'm curious to see what you'll come up with.
I feel king is his dad links parents are never mentioned unless its the mom who died when he was an infant zelda is obviously slightly older then link and she says her mom died when she was little so she never knew her mom furthermore in BOTW it claims links father was a high ranking knight in the hylian army which could very well be the king yes in other game he had a dad but what if that was a ploy in case something happened to Zelda it be easy to take over the world if the one you want and the one who are going to stop you live together also link always with no issue seems to wiggle from not being anything close to hylian guard to top ranking on the guard why I say it is because the king and only him knows so when he finds the time right he appoints him so he ensures Zelda's safety seeing as how the test of our metal is always tempered with and tested what say you
PJCLink hmm, but link's father gives me even less info to work with. While I don't think the mentor is a side "filler" character, I do think that is the case with hos father
Ethan Lam I never watched star wars so i don't get the reference saying as much however zelda never really shows much affection to link like the Zora princess does next to always though it may not be possible I do say the similarities of this is rather close
The only Sheikah mentioned in Zelda's journal were Robbie, Purah, and Impa: yet Kass' teacher-the court poet-was said to have accompanied Link and Zelda on their excavations and adventures. So why isn't this figure mentioned?
As for Kass…that is a fair point. He has no real reason to lie per se, but he did keep it secret that he knew who Link was the entire time, up until he revealed the truth with a song in Rito Village. So if he's been dishonest and not forthcoming before, it isn't outside of the realm of possibility that he's doing so again for some as-of-yet unknown reason.
"The only Sheikah mentioned in Zelda's journal were Robbie, Purah, and Impa: yet Kass' teacher-the court poet-was said to have accompanied Link and Zelda on their excavations and adventures. So why isn't this figure mentioned?"
Well, we all know for a FACT that Robbie is NOT a court poet, so he can't be Kass's mentor! Also, there's a chance/possibility that the pages that are available to read in Zelda's journal are not all the pages. Which could've been done intentionally and on purpose cause Nintendo probably doesn't want us to know much about Kass's Mentor right now. For all we know, he could be a completely different character who's not even seen in the game (yet). All I know for sure is that it's definitely NOT Robbie! That would make absolutely NO sense based on what is known about Kass's mentor! So far, the only logical candidate is Misko, in my opinion.
Just the way Misko writes, is clear traits of someone who be a good a COURT POET! He writes in the same kind of riddle as how Kass sings his songs. PERFECT MATCH! At least for now anyways.
"As for Kass…that is a fair point. He has no real reason to lie per se, but he did keep it secret that he knew who Link was the entire time, up until he revealed the truth with a song in Rito Village. So if he's been dishonest and not forthcoming before, it isn't outside of the realm of possibility that he's doing so again for some as-of-yet unknown reason."
If this ended being the case, then that would be repetitive and stupid! Having him lie, then admit the truth, followed by another lie, would not make any sense at all! Kass's mentor is DEAD! And Robbie is STILL ALIVE! So it's NOT him! It's FACT! Capiche?!
Before watching the video.
One of the shiekah that takes Link to the shrine is Kass's teacher. He's in love with Zelda. That's how Kass knows what happened to Link and how he died.
During watching the video: Ahhhhhh, BLACK CHERRY?? AHHHHH. *MIND BLOWN*
After watching video... *MIND MEGA BLOWN.* How did you come up with all of this?? The guy is Robbie?? Holy Shit.
Honestly, at first it was just a random thought I had one day. We know that both Purah and Robbie put Link in the Shrine of Resurrection, and the teacher witnessed this event. But going by elimination, it would have to be Robbie. What got me interested though was the connection of him to music, as we hear the electric guitar and screams of fans. I was at a dead end after that though. But when I found out that Link fell on "Black Cherry Plain" suddenly I got excited. I researched more, and found more connections that linked the 2 together (in more ways than one, pun definitely intended).
This honestly might be my favorite theory now because of how much evidence there is to support it. I'm just happy I got the video done before someone else found out haha
Thanks for watching!
But where does it say Purah was there to see Link fall at the Black Cherry Plain?
Purah says she is the one who carried link to the chamber of resurrection @No Fatchix
“Cherry plain sight”
Me: wait...
Kass: he passed away a few years ago
Me: THEN WHO THE HELL
8:23 Love how his chameleon eyes twitch just at the right moment
I always thought that Cherry’s name was a pun on the French world Chérie
Mhhh... this is the most dissapointing theory yet, I mean it's an entertaining video but Robbie never knew about music, not once, he was a Guardian nerd and studied them all of his life, he wouldn't have time for music. Besides his dialogue doesn't agree neither, if he was a poet it'd be noticed on his dialogue.
There's 2 MALE sheikahs who see the fall of Link, the one who shouted "Princess!" is Kass' Master since he'd be worried about her rather than Link. After taking him to the resurrection chamber he never saw Zelda again, he then studied the ruins and folklore all of his life and discovered the solution to several shrines, however he was unable to live long enough to pass this vital information so his pupil Kass was the one who passed down his knowledge in the form of songs... Robbie just felt sad because he studied the guardians rather than building weapons and technology based on them and he kept studying the guardians afterwards.
I agree. Robbie shows no musical talent or inclinations towards poetry, he's clearly a scientist and was before the Calamity (he was working at the ancient tech lab north of the castle when it fell, pretty sure he mentions this).
Also there's no reason for Zelda or anyone else to mention members of the court like the court poet. There are clearly other characters that were involved (a recipe you can find refers to a scheming member of the court). Finding and opening shrines wasn't top on the priority list since they couldn't help in defense so if anything it would have been a minor quest, not anything Zelda, Robbie, Purah, or Impa would have focused on.
Besides Robbie is short as hell, he wasn't either of the two Sheikah that was present when Link fell.
And there's no reason for Kass to lie about his master being dead. The only reason he didn't reveal he knew who Link was is because he knew Link wouldn't remember, but after that questline is completed there's no reason to keep his master's death a secret. If the game developers had planned this they would have left us this easter egg, but they didn't because Kass's teacher isn't some poet-scientist-inventor guy key to all the things.
Not everything has to have a deeper level.
The only musical thing about Robbie I can recall is how he had a guitar riff randomly play at times when talking to him
And even that is explainable by the fact that his childhood friend Purah also makes up similar poses to look cool, and they probably try to one-up each other.
I don't think the court poet would be one of Zelda's guards in the first place, but perhaps you've 'hit the right note', so to say...
Kass only says that his mentor went on the expeditions to the shrines with Zelda, not that he was present when Link fell at Fort Hateno. If this person was shown anywhere in the game, it would be in the memories where Link and Zelda were examining the Sheikah machinery and shrines.
This does bring up another potential theory though - could the Sheikah guard that gave that glare at Link have been a Yiga Clan spy giving away the position of the Princess and her Champion for the Guardians and monsters to hunt down?
Liana Verwood Yeah, that one sheikah has interested me for a while. However, I'm unsure of whether he was around before the Great Calamity
I think Kass's teacher might be the boss from the champions ballad dlc, he passed down the hints to the shrines in the dlc, I think it might even make sense that he's dead because he is kind of a mummy by now. Also if he was in love with Zelda the fight could be kind of a way to prove that link deserves to save her or something like that
And the dlc covers this so well like how kass is connected to every beast, and eventually helps you get the master cycle zero, made with ancient parts, could definitely connect kass to robbie
To be honest, my biggest problem is the height difference. Robbie is even shorter than Link but in the memory the shiekah man seems to be fairly tall. They just don't look too much alike
Robbie is ONE of the two Sheikah who see Link die. The second Sheikah became a traveling minstrel to spread the songs of Link's battles, while Robbie continued his research.
That seems more likely
It can't be Robbie since now that Age of Calamity is out, we know what young Robbie looks like. That is not Robbie lol
I honestly think kasses teacher is revali because he hates link and he is a Rito and revali died long ago
But Kass says his master died "a few years" ago. Not "long ago". Plus, do Rito even live that long? We don't see a single Rito as far as I know who knew Revali.
Rito don’t live that long so no Revali was not Kass Master. And he specifically said it was a Sheika
I actually really like this theory a lot.
It's funny so many people here are commenting about how it's unlikely one man could be a royal poet, a musician, and an expert in sheikah technology in the loz universe, when we have real life figures as that not only in real history, such as Da Vinci...but also in the actual game. Link is a character that can do an INSANE number of things: he can cook, he can snowboard and best one of the best boarders in the game, he is the greatest fighter, he can fly really well, he can swim and was also a token love of Mipha's while ALSO gaining the affection of the princess, he traveled and used many different technologies himself. He is skilled in disguises and sneaking into villages, and is also an expert horse rider.
If anything, it would make COMPLETE sense that there was another guy who was like Link and competed with Link for not only Zelda's affection, but to become a royal knight fo rher. And on top of that, probably knew Zelda longer than Link did, as this Shiekah was part of the Sheikah tribe and a royal poet for the family and was her age.
Also, just as a side note, the facial structure of the sheikah looking at Zelda looks REALLY similar to Robbie. They both have square jaws and tanned skin.
Also I don't think its a stretch that Kass would lie to Link at all about a false death of his teacher. He was already not honest about knowing who Link was.
Seriously, if he loved his teacher, and his teacher asked him to please not reveal his identity, and say he has passed, why would he owe anyone that information? Who would he rather honor? Link, or his teacher who he adores? I think you can also think of it as, who his teacher used to be, is dead, but now he is a different man, no longer the teacher he used to be.
Anyway I really enjoyed this video, it was really good. I especially liked the part about Robbie requesting to see Link's battle scars. That was for me, a potentially really good piece of evidence to your theory.
You know he already said this theory was one of his worst, right?
This makes more sense now thx
Nah this theory is way too farfetched and the evidence is pretty weak.
So you're telling me he could be a FULL-TIME court poet and a scientist researcher at the same time? Let alone qualifications.
@@ShootistFN lol Yes. You make it sound like a court poet is working a desk job from 9-5. A job such as that doesn't need to be working constantly. They're probably called for when needed or required, requested of a service and then dismissed. Sometimes they weren't needed at all. They're probably only needed for like..an hour, maybe two at most. They're entertainers and most court entertainers were called for breifly. That then leaves a ton of free time that he totally could have used to do anything else he enjoyed. There are many cases of doctors and scientists who were also artists. M.C. Escher is a famous one of many. Osamu Tezuka, the creator of anime had a PHD and doctorate. And he probably had even less time, but he found time. Humans are capable of a great many things and I think the video game culture isn't used to seeing remarkable npcs.
Very late to this, but robbie looks like he has robot eyes.. What if robbie actually died but purah sort of revived him with robotic parts?
That is an amazing thought. it can be possible
Or maybe he’s just blind
This is a great theory. A remarkably wrong one, but still great.
Remarkably wrong in the same way that Nintendo basically had to force a bunch of disjointed Zelda games to "appear to be 'Linked'" together in order to not disappoint fans... so that they could keep making more money off the franchise; and even to go as far as to claim that this game (BotW) happened "much much later" than the rest of the games in the Hyrule Historia timeline.
They screwed up the minute they made Majora's Mask and told people, "this is a parallel universe created by an anomaly Link created when he pulled the Master Sword out of the ToT." And now, here we are.............. what a mess.
Ulen Grau well thr fandom kinda asked for it they were only doing what we asked of them.
Andrea Diagbouga you know who the teacher is?
Truen't
I-it was never that serious. The timeline is not at all hard to follow anyways you act like it was some tragedy Nintendo pulled off so that they can justify robbing you in your own home.
It's an interesting theory but you are reading a lot of things way out of context in an attempt to make the puzzle pieces fit. I doubt Robbie is the person you seek. Much of your evidence contradicts itself, with the best possible clue you have being tenuously weak at best (Ie the stove named Cherry and the Black Cherry Plain). It's a grasping at straws clue, if I were to be honest.
Even the journal entry you use, Robbie is writing it in the remorse of someone who didn't have the technology available for Link to use to save his life, not in the voice of someone who was jealous of a man having the love of Zelda. What he blames himself for and is remorseful about is not having anything ready to help Link fight and to save his life. And the reason Robbie makes Link show him his scars to to prove he is Link. I don't understand how that is misunderstood, Robbie even makes that clear.
Terra Silverspar Robbies was well versed in ancient civilization according to Kass, so he would know about guardians and technology. Plus, I brought up the scar thing just because it could have been symbolic, reminding himself of his failures.
He would know but saying someone is well versed in the games present, versus the games past, when the memories clearly show that they were still trying to understand the Guardians is still tenuous at best.
Terra Silverspar also the fact that there is NO connection between Robbie and kass
I love the super paper mario music that's used in your videos, it adds a great touch!
I think the many perspectives of the events at Fort Hateno were more to point the player in that direction to find the last memory, more so than to weave a secret identity of Kass's teacher.
I think you're right about Cherry being an alias, but I don't think it was Zelda. Given the evidence presented in your theory, I now believe that the real identity of "Cherry" is... Link! That's right, not only was Robbie lying about his first love's name, but "her" gender, too. Ignoring any Hyrule taboos, it would be even more awkward to let your second love know that your first love was the opposite gender, never mind being the Legendary Hero.
And now stripping for Robbie on replays will be even more creepy than it already was. You're welcome.
Starcat5 fucking gay
Has anyone thought about the fact maybe purrah was cherry... i mean cherry is commonly used to to reffere to a pure woman who has been untouched, purrah sounds pretty similar to pure and even adding to what happens with black cherry plains, purrah says that she was the one who carried link to the shrine of ressurection se she was probably present at the plains as well... maybe it should be robbie and purrah
The theorist hinted at this further by playing "Memory" as he read from Robbie's writing about Link. If you're unfamiliar with Super Paper Mario, that's a song reserved for the bittersweet, war-torn, one-was-nearly-killed-and-the-other-was-wrecked-by-grief pairing of Timpani and Blumiere. Timpani may not be the player character, but she is the protagonist of SPM's story. I don't know why the theorist would make such parallels, but I must wonder if it was an accident or not...
Oof
@@yop_ic same
I think Robbie is a reference of Robbie Williams and ver daugther Zelda
There is a Hylian in a stable that is referenced off of Robbie Williams.
I love how he shows his thought process. It makes me see it much better.
there is another explanations for why Kass's teacher is thought of as dead.
Sheika are basically ninjas, Ninjas have been know to fake their deaths. Ninja's were so good at it that it was rumored that you could even stand over the body and not tell that they are faking it. Also, ninja's were really good at aliases. Kass could have been talking to Robbie that is disguised at the time and that cover was blown so he stopped using it, faking the death so there would be no questions later.
Wait I hear could be super paper mario music when timpani remembers somthing
Renee J you hear correctly!
Robbie
Court Poet
Robin Williams
Dead Poet's Society
This is a more engaging arguement than any made in the video.
really awsome content dude, im suprised you only have 21k, (thats a lot of subscribers, but you deserve more), i cant wait to see what you do next.
These kind of videos make the fans appreciate the detail video-game makers do.
One of the majors plotholes I see (apart from the master suposedly being dead) is that I don't understand why a poet of the royal court would be assisting in a battle. Maybe they were so desesperate that they used all men they had available, but that soldier has a pretty strong build to be a servant of the royal family. Maybe he went to the hyrulean gym in his free time. (Also, that soldier is the only non-main character with voice acting.)
Lord Eudald he was fleeing from the calamity, I doubt he was a "warrior" to begin with
Food for thought: the court poet was confirmed to be a Sheikah tribe member, and that tribe is fairly skilled in martial arts across the board throughout the games we've seen them in (Ocarina of Time, Skyward Sword, Twilight Princess), having often been said to "die out" or "disappear" in the wars of that country.
Sheik
but sheik is Zelda. unless its some one using the name. cause if Zelda is holding the seal just after the attack or wha tever she wouldn't have time to teach or learn. unless there was time between the death of link in that scene and her trying to figure eout how to use her power and setting all the cookie crumbs per say. and dureing that time hid as sheik and never revealed her self as Zelda to kass so Kass thinks mentor was male. but that doesn't fall into he was in love with Zelda. Unless LINK is the one that tought him and metaphoricly died aka doesn't remember type thing.
I love your theory videos, also could you give me some tips on vommentating because I tryed commentating and im trash. Have a great day!
P.s keep up the good work
Mister Cheezey hard to say, I've been doing it for over 5 years. It takes time, and make sure to be yourself. Don't copy other youtuber's personalities
I kind of feel as though Robbies diary entry talking about seeing the remains of Fort Hateno implied he had been trying to make something akin to the ancient gear way back then, something that would give the person who needed to physically fight one on one an edge while everyone else relied on the guardians and divine beasts. He regretted that hed failed Link in that in spite of all his effort, theres no implication that he regretted how hed looked down on Link before seeing him fall, you know?
I also thought it was Revali at first. I actually came up with that theory myself while watching a DIFFERENT theory video of yours, after hearing you talk about what Kass says about his teacher during his final song. So I then came here, to this video, which I had been meaning to watch anyways, to see just how real my theory was.
'Solid evidence' lol cool fan fiction but no strong evidence at all, Kass's teacher is dead and there's no reason for him to lie about it. Robbie is not a musician either lol
The primary problems with the theory are trying to say he named the Ancient Oven after a location instead of something that can more directly relate to Zelda. Besides, he had no reason to hide his feelings, when you consider that Zelda is a thot trying to steal Mipha's Husbando. Link and Mipha could be likened to Lovers. The armor she made for him is made purely for their(a Zora Princess') fiance. I mean seriously, Link must have reciprocated these feelings, considering how its mentioned they were damn near inseparable growing up.
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except mipha's diary in the new dlc says he hardly visits her since their childhood and she never got to confess her feelings to him so... no. they weren't canon.
Y u mean u do not know dea wea
Snow Day Gnar did you even play this game...Mipha’s diary clearly stated this feeling is one-sided. And she didn’t get a chance to say it. Besides Link only open up to Zelda. Sorry friend but Mipha is yours and Link belongs to Zelda
Mostly a ridiculous theory, simply from a fact that robby is a scientist who was working on ancient gear and ancient arrows for all the time link was resurrecting. Kass' teacher was a musician who died FEW YEARS PRIOR. Means there was no way robby could spend this much time teaching music. Mostly it is just easier to read the official nintendo BOTW books. The topic is covered there.
I love how he just trots right by the enemies lol **claps** amazing job buddy! Loved this video idea but I still don't know if it's Robbie.........
This feels like one that makes more sense at 2 AM in a chaotic discord call
Theory Busted... Your evidence when looking through the Journal says "IT would have been hard to tell she WASN'T a native Hylian." Meaning the girls was not of Hylian descent but that it would be hard to tell that she was...
Kass's theme is my favorite of the whole game.
Very cool video, love watching the theories
Also Robbie wanted to see links wounds so it would make sense if that one guy was Robbie because in the shine of resurrection his skin is revealed which would give him the chance to study his wounds/scars
Waaay too many "lets ignore this evidence that busts my theory" quotes in this one.
Bro.. I like what you do.. seriously.. but this theory makes no sense.. just saying
I wouldn't say it makes zero sense. there are several different connections that I make. Unless you want to further elaborate on why it makes no sense?
+NintendoBlackCrisis
1. There is no connection between "Cherry" and Zelda (Kass's master love interest) even if you assume it is a reference to the place where linked died.. That doesn't explain why Robbie would say it was named "after his first love" (which you are assuming is Zelda).. Surely, if it was named after the place where linked "died" he would say something along the lines of "I named it after my greatest regret"
2. Robbie spent his life after the fall of Hyrule in one location researching guardians and preparing for the return of the hero. Will Kass's master spent his life travelling the world researching ancient songs in preparation for the return of the hero.
3. Kass's master is dead.. You're explanation really wasn't convincing as comes across as trying to force facts to fit your theories instead of allowing the facts to shape the theory..
4. Big fan don't hate me please
+mii6619 as you can tell from the abundance of spelling and grammar mistakes I made in my comment... We all make mistakes :)
Good points, however I still feel that it is strange how neither Zelda nor other members of the Sheikah mention him. We know that Impa had talked to him and he set off in search of the songs, and since his role was as important as the other members of the tribe I find it unlikely that he wouldn't be mentioned. As far as the theory goes, I'll still believe it until Nintendo says otherwise.
Aside from that, no worries! I know you are not hating and I appreciate your honest openion. :)
+NintendoBlackCrisis Thanks :)... But regarding the main characters not mentioning him.. I think he would be considered a low level character (maybe not even a warior).. Not someone the main characters would remember or care that much for.. Remember, Kass only said his master saw what happened to Link as "he fled the castle".. He didn’t say anything about him fighting in the battle.. I don't know, but the way he was jealous of Link kinda made me feel he must not be a front line warior guy.
there is another peice of information and that is the songs kass gives hints at how to activate various shrines (the "Master of The Wind" one coming to mind), which as the guy researching them wouldn't be too difficult to puzzle out.
Technically seeing as they stopped aging Zelda is still 17 but amazing work on this! It's been on my mind since i finished the Kass song quest.
Ehh I think you made too many stretches. I think Kass had a reason to lie to link before and I don't think he would lie about his teacher being dead, I see no reason. Even if he was a teacher I don't think that would change his relationship with Link.
Kass didn't really lie to Link so much as just not tell him he know
but isn’t Kass’s teacher DEAD so it can’t be Robbie.
This man postmortemed the whole Breath of the wild game.
Nice work man👍.
First of all. I love your theory videos! I just stumbled on them and have been watching them all. Second, with the talk of kass's teacher. I like the idea of robbie as the teacher, but I honestly wanna say it was shiek (nothing saying Zelda never disguised herself, but nothing saying she did) but shiek always played the harp and could have taught the ancient songs to kass, and Zelda merely stopped being shiek after links awakening. Its a long shot but it sounds good to me
How DARE you!!
I taught Kass everything he knows!!!
I told him to tell people I was dead because I won the powerball and I don't people asking me for handouts.
alright then
Ok
I called it!
I said it was the cherry theory!
Then Age of Calamity comes along and completely busts this theory
Okay okay I know Kass said his teacher was dead, but Purah made anti-aging elixirs to make her younger, so why shouldn’t Robbie use them too? Also, Robbie felt remorse for not giving link the proper gear and weapons to fight guardians, and what does Robbie sell to Link? Ancient arrows (kill some guardians with one hit) and ancient gear (extra defense against guardians. He also sells some guardian parts. I think this is because he’s trying to prepare Link for the adventure ahead, and hope that his gear and weapons are stronger than they were a hundred years ago. This probably isn’t true, but it’s possible
I'm debunking it with the fact that Purahs de aging rune made her too young by mistake as seen in her diary. Robbie couldn't have found a way to make it work because if he did Purah would've surely returned herself to normal like she wants to.
This is just convincing me that Robbie was in love with /Link/ lol
Robbie x Zelda fanfiction? Pffft. All I want is Link x Kass fanfiction.
I like the super paper Mario music playing in the background for most of the video
After watching the theory about master kohga being zant, i expected you to talk about, like, happy mask salesman
Interesting, but nope.
DarkMirria1
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It can’t be Robbie because he's alive kass's teacher is 😵 so the Robbie theory was interesting but there’s to much evidence proving it WRONG sorry mate
Have u watched the video-
I have something to add:
When you talk to Purah, she says she took Link to the shrine of resurrection. If it was true that Robbie had to take Link there, that would explain the fact that Purah took you instead.
Congrats on 2 years of this vid nbc!
There’s too many holes in the theory that you can’t explain, and it seems a little too far fetched to be honest. Great video, but I’m sorry to say I disagree.
Stop reading.
You're a rebel. I like u.
Can I just say that I love how this video puts you into cinema mode XD
One issue it says it’d be hard to tell she WASNT a native Hylian. Meaning it couldn’t be Zelda.
Honestly.. I think you people (Theorists) read WAY too much into these theories. And not once while playing did I honestly give a crap who Kass’ teacher was. Good video though 👍🏻
We honestly probably do xD
Nothing wrong with it, I do with games and lore as well lol
No worries dude! ;)
True...but you still clicked on the video.
And? It’s still interesting. I’ve beat the game therefore I can go and listen to anything people have theorized. Hence “Not once WHILE I was playing the game”
I THINK IM FIRST OH MY GOD AHHH
It creeps me out to know that Robbie had a crush on Zelda 😂
SHES MINE
You do realize that this is basically fanfic material. Only a fan made theory and not fact, right?
Actully shes Links
Age of calamity now makes the robbie theory impossible because robbie wasn’t a soldier
Not the question we need, but the question we deserve