Ditto Only - Pokemon Crystal
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2023
- Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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As long as ditto doesn't turn into Gligar, it can learn mud-slap from nearly any other pokemon
Hahahahaha
genious! :D
Nice
So still another pokemon that gligar needs to be jealous of.
Lmao
Hi scott! Single father of 5. My wife passed away and my kids are all younger (oldest is 12). Im a hardcore genwinner but my kids love new Pokemon. But your channel is one of the main things we can constantly and consistently bond over. I appreciate your channel, your dedication to detail and replays, and your descriptiveness. Watching your channel brings us all closer together and we all appreciate you so much! Much love!
God bless you my brother
So sorry man. Happy Father's Day. I only have two kids and they are a handful but I love them so much so I know you are busy.
@@PnkElephantz busy yes but wouldn't trade it for the world and I'm sure you feel the same. It's a day to be happy and be grateful for what we have!
@@treyparkerofficial happy father's day to you, as a single father I know it takes an enormous amount of willpower just to get through the day sometimes. G-d bless you.
@@zenitfan4life thank you! Hope you've had a great day also
The best overlay of any pokemon content creator. I really appreciate the clarity it brings to your runs
He's been one of the pioneers on that front
No frrrrrr I'm always looking somewhere else while watching Pokemon videos but with Scott I can look back at any time and know what's going on
Would kill for his overlay in-game lmao
The fact he even keeps track of his pokemon's PP at all times is insane, gotta respect his dedication. edit: Just noticed he also shows both his side's stats and his opponents, even when he transforms.
Can't wait to see what interesting movepool optimisations you make in your second playthrough.
Fun fact I just learned: struggle is still classified as a normal move but skips all type effictiveness check: so pink bow still increases struggle's damage.
Just saw the same video this morning!
ua-cam.com/video/2Z7o4RQDtzU/v-deo.html
Thank you for a Father's Day special! In a way, Ditto can be everyone's daddy :)
Also mother?
@@KainaX122 let's keep the politics out of Pokemon :P
I wish transform worked a little differently. I like the idea of the limited PP after transforming, but when you run out of that PP, I wish ditto would revert back to its normal form instead of struggling. I think this change would bring a whole new strategy to this type of run with ditto.
that is such a cool idea! i would love to see that implemented on some fangame
Yeah, that's why I prefer to play double ditto runs, when I run out of PP, I just swap dittos
Honestly, Ditto should also be able to learn a _small number of_ other moves related to imitation (Mirror Move, Mimic) or to being gelatinous and amorphous (Acid Armor, Minimize, Substitute). Likewise, Wobuffet should've been able to learn Bide in addition to Mirror Coat and Counter.
@@RoninCatholic yeah, totally agreed.
I like Ditto better in Gen 1 and 2. When it uses transform, the sprite changes, but the color doesn't. As a kid I thought that made sense and looked cool, seeing each Pokemon as a different color. I'm sure it was a game engine thing, but I wish they made that canon for future games and the anime.
I like the idea of individual specific Ditto having parts of a transformation they struggle with - some always remain Ditto's pink color scheme, some can't do faces, maybe some always do the wrong tail, five-armed Graveler and Machamp, eight-tailed Ninetales, throwback reference to Pokemon Blue Koffing with the face lower down and the Jolly Roger on the forehead, etc.
That's just a thing with transform in general in Gen 1/2, it occurs with all Pokémon not just Ditto.
I loved Jrose's Ditto run and I am so glad you did your own
This Ditto run is some elaborate analogy for Capitalism: struggling in order to make money in order to buy potions in order to keep struggling. And this on Father's Day, a capitalist holiday. Really profound Scott
This is my art. It is deeply allegorical.
I will note this run if I have to make lyrical commentary on capitalism. Especially given that the actual final goal is impossible which very cleanly symbolizes that when you buy into capitalism, it limits your actions so much you can’t even overthrow it.
Just think paralysis is Scott's achilles' heel in this run... And in the very next generation when abilities are introduced, Ditto's ability is limber which prevents paralysis
Hey man, I remember watching this channel when you only had a dew dozen subscribers. You've gotten so much more confident in your narration and I really applaud how you've stuck to it as you've gotten better over the years. Keep it up!
I will! Seriously though, it’s been such a journey. I’ve learned a lot about production and a lot about confidence.
Ditto is one of those "it seemed like a good idea until ya actually think about it" pokemon. It *really* needs Mimic to give it some options beyond "over level and choose between transform, struggle, or a combination"
Maybe Conversion at a reduced PP count as well to mix things up a bit.
UA-cam recommend this video to me, and gotta say this layout is phenomenal! It's gotta be one of the best Pokemon layouts I've ever seen. And hey your commentary's good to. Looking forward to watching more videos from ya.
I imagine the Red strat might be to knock out his pikachu turn one with struggle, then use a mystery berry to get transform pp back on turn two, like leppa strats. Mystery berries restore 5 pp to a move and are located across that little pond just north of Goldenrod. Bulbapedia also says there is one on route 45, but I don't remember that one.
I'd love to see if this could work, at least theoretically, even if it takes absurd luck.
I imagine there's no way that Ditto-Espeon can get through the rest of the team either, though, right? Reflect and Mud Slap are write-offs, which leaves just 5 Psychic and 5 Swift. Snorlax alone seems like it walls you.
I could see it happen.
Transform into Espeon, try to Crit Red’s Espeon with Swifts, and then spam Psychic and Crit Snorlax, Charizard, and Blastoise and then have 1 Psychic PP left for Venusaur. The issue is that Snorlax is probably gonna take 2 Crit Psychics due to its insane Special bulk. And Blastoise is pretty chunky as well. Meaning that you will not have any Psychics left for Venusaur. And Venusaur can easily outlast Ditto with Synthesis Healing, even if it gets its Accuracy ruined by Mud-Slap.
@@shadowtitanx3962 I can't find a damage calc online that lets you remove Stat XP in gen two so the stats aren't perfect, but I don't even think it's possible for Espeon to 2hko the Snorlax with two Crits, due to Lax's bulk.
@@Math.Banditwith the special drop also?
Ah man this is gonna be an incredible grind
Thanks for all you do dude. The series has been such a fun way to revisit the series in my older age!
Scott still doing his thing. Even though i only started watching ur vids a liitle over a year ago, the amount of passion and effort u put in is rly obvious to see. Just keep it up man.+
As a father and a big fan i appreciate this special and i appreciate you scott. This is some of my favorite content
Best Pokémon channel hands down. Thanks for being this dedicated.
I believe pikasprey’s ditto run, along with Jrose’s magikarp, got started the solo Pokemon run scene back in 2019. This is a.nice callback to those grindy, nightmarish runs people adored back then
I believe Pikasprey's Red Ditto run was the grandfather of them all.
@@doctorsmoothlove oh yeah. With the multiple glitches where Ditto refused to use Struggle.
@@anonymone453 pikasprey discovered the glitch in that run
doctorsmoothlove Yeah. I remember when _Crystal released a video documenting the glitch. Crazy that even in 2019 people were still learning new quirks about a game that came out over two decades prior
@@anonymone453 yes, but I think that was the around the time someone found a glitch in Super Mario Brothers. There may still be Pokemon Glitches we don't know
That is a first, a pokemon that can't beat Red even under the most ideal circumstances.
Like Linkin Park said: "I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter"
There is another commenter here who claims a strategy he didn't consider can work, though. Mystery Berry! This would allow transforming into Espeon instead. However, that would require 7 consecutive critical hits....
I genuinely love your videos. They're perfect
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOOO LONG! Thank you Scott I am so stoked for this!!!
Poetic, I just finished this run myself thirty minutes ago, my reaction had my GF just chuckle, after a nearly 8-hour realtime playthrough.
Kudos for completing this also! A run with Ditto is insane man, I needed constant video audio to keep myself sane during the grinding...
After Ditto, I take my hatred on Wobbuffet back, least Wobbuffet could handle a lot of battles! .. it could attack! LOL
I did totally forget about the king's rock, forgot the item actually existed in this game, well done!
of all the days for you to begin the ditto trials, you chose this one. well, I'm glad to watch this! ive been waiting a long time!
as per usual, this video was incredible, Scott! have you ever thought about doing an Unknown challenge? could even make it so you have a team of multiple Unknown, each with a different type of Hidden Power! I'm guessing optimization could bring it down to 2 or 3 (Rock/Ground and Ice) although I'd love to see a team of 5-6 so you could spell out S-C-O-T-T or something with them. take care, greatly appreciate all of your content and dedication to your craft!
What a wild challenge to put yourself through. You could say it was quite a struggle.
It's a small thing but I love that you have the type change on the left when you use transform
Scott this is my first father's day and I appreciate this upload so much!
What an amazing effort! It’s a shame to see transform strats fall away for a massive struggle grind. I wonder if you could do a spin-off video down the track where you explore some major battles late game with either the low pp from transform tweaked in the rom (if that’s even possible) or just the pressure of finishing a run removed so you can talk through what transform might look like in the elite 4, blue and red battles? Or there’s a great suggestion for giving ditto mimic on another comment!
Thanks for such amazing content, Scott! The races were such a treat while I’m on the road for work. ❤
Man this video must have been insufferable to make! I just wanna say I appreciate all the hard work you do for us, the audience!
One interesting interaction I noticed was with the Unown battles. Your Ditto should have a Dark type Hidden Power due to being genetically perfect. However, with one Unown, it dealt neutral damage to you when you transformed and then your Hidden Power also dealt neutral damage when it should have been Dark damage aka super effective. Meaning when you copy the opponent’s stats, you also copy their Hidden Power type (at least in Gen 2).
Happy Father's Day to every Pokemon's favorite father, Ditto! In seriousness, man it's been so long even I assumed every Pokemon could win the game solo, so I was honestly taken aback at the failure. Not bothered by it, since the moe I think about it the more it makes sense some Pokemon really just can't, but seeing it happen just seems unheard of if you watch enough of these.
Scott: “Struggle deals 1/4 of its damage as recoil damage. This damage is always rounded down.”
Me: “Okay makes sense.”
Scott: “So if struggle deals 3 damage then you will take 1 recoil damage.”
Me: “But… but that’s rounding up”
Im just guessing the example you were trying to give was that if you deal 5 or even 6 damage with struggle it will only deal 1 recoil damage.
Yes, for some reason I have a 1/2 recoil example hahah
love the magikarp guy art. the different magikarp jump patterns is a great touch
I'm sure this video was painful for you to make but what a masterpiece Scott! The fact that you used items people didn't even know or people haven't seen in years was truly amazing. Also, I thought you were going to name Ditto: DADitto 😅 maybe next time
Ditto for Father's day? The implications.. You usually have such a clean channel Scott.
Wow, what a treat! I expect this one to be brutal!
Ditto is a great pick for Father’s Day. A big part of being a great dad is to be able to transform into whatever your kid needs!
This daddo is about to transform my expectations into a painful reality.
Definitely looking forwards to seeing how the different baby pokémon do
If you ever plan to play something like this again, using the fishing rod to face magikarps would be more consistent than grinding for hoppips- even though its a bit after facing falkner- maybe that input gives you an idea for something :) great video as always, you really suffer for our entertainment
This is going to be a painful one. Something I hope you'll do in the future is a gen 1 modified run with a Ditto who also learns Mimic. It'd be interesting to see if it can finish the game with just Transform and Mimic and what battles are easier by using Mimic vs using Transform and vice versa.
I'm a simple man. i see scott take on the ditto challenge, i click and think to myself "oh, this is gonna be good!"
Quite a doozey for father's day! Keep up the grand work, champ!
Never thought I’d see over 100 resets in a run. Thanks for the entertainment idk how you had the motivation to do a Ditto run. 😅
...did you not watch the magicarp video???
@@philiphunt-bull5817 unfortunately I did.
I know we just finished a vs series but super keen to see the fossil Pokémon vs match up in Crystal. Still find it a bit odd that they didn't introduce a new pair of fossil Pokémon in gen 2 but then it became a staple of the series.
47:16 i just came up with the perfect name for the 6 magikarp trainer when you showed the artwork, Magi-Clark lmao. I think it fits him just fine lol
Absolutely loving the Fisherman art! Glad he finally got his Shiny Golden Magikarp!
I'd love to see a baby pokemon vs challenge!
Good attempt with ditto, what a struggle ;p
Just give this man a thumb up for all the STRUGGLE :D
Damn what a painful playthrough. I love it!
The effort you put into providing the viewer with info and context is insane.
Going so far as to show us the exact stats of opposing Pokémon is so cool.
How do you manage that?
He made a program that hooks into game memory so something with that I would imagine
Been waiting for this video lol
I love the videos where you port a pokemon back a generation. How hard would it be to do something similar but with types? Like adding Dark, Steel or Fairy into yellow?
Love that you chose ditto for this one ;)
Scott’s struggle is our entertainment. Literally.
Ahh nice, 1 hour and 15 minutes of good time right ahead, thank you very much
Wow I can't wait for you to do the optimized run!
I'd like to mention that I saw a video of someone defeating red with ditto by going in with no PP and holding a mystery berry. They crit the Pikachu, espeon came out and they ate the berry, they transformed into espeon. And from there you use swift and mud slap to defeat espeon and Psychic for everything else. Keep in mind you need a lot of crits and misses but it's theoretically possible.
I know this one was a pain but very much worth it. A great Father’s Day gift!
Looking forward to seeing you go through those 6 koffing with that executive lmao
Well done! Ditto is always a challenge.
thanks scott for a great vid
That was somehow both incredibly entertaining and hard to watch! 😂
Loved seeing "Dad's Berserk Gene activated". And so was born a generation of horrifying mutant offspring.
there was no venomoth-typing-joke at the elite 4 battle with Will. 😱!
thank you for completing this torturing grind.
can you do a doggo vs doggo vs doggo battle? (entei, arcanine, houndoom). Obviously entei has better stats and likely to win but ... might be entertaining.
An appropriate vidio for father's day. Being a parent can be a long strugle, but in the end it is worth it. Even if the victory takes a while.
Lots of respect for going through the journey of a Struggling DAD.
I lol'd when I saw the happy Father's Day, that was a great one
This video really does have it all: Comically absurdly bad supersonic luck, fainting against almost every fight in the game including Pryce AND the Red Gyrados (lol), 100+ resets, a super rare item no one has thought about in years, and the first Crystal DNF. I hope you don't get the nightmarish idea to try University Magikarp in Crystal as this was brutal enough!
So, I’ve got a suggestion here. JRose calls challenges like these, “impossible,” and the rule sets are a bit different. More lenient to be sure. With Pokémon like Ditto, where it’s obvious they’re going to take more than 3 hours, I think you should be able to bring rare items, like the Metal Coat, into the game. I suggest this because a Pokémon taking that long to finish isn’t going to dramatically affect the rankings no matter what you do. No matter what, love the content!
You know it's a rough run when trainer Miky is being talked about
Happy father's day scott, your our pokemon challenge dad!
Hey Scott, nice try overall, i am sure you are glad its over! How would it be with a berserker gen transform Pikachu, with the most impossible luck ? I am just thinking of the paralyzed chance... Not sure if the damage would be enough. Would be cool if you could look into that ! :) ... Maybe the powerpoints would run out... but just wondering how fully paralyzed can help to switch into Struggle after.
So, ironically, my birthday is also on Father's day. And this was a great father's day/birthday treat. I was rooting HARD for ditto to just beat the game. I think it would of been nice to see red get taken down with the use of items. Can't wait to see the "struggle" in yellow.
Hi love the videos, just a few thoughts on the baby pokemon in crystal:
pichu and tyrogue have terrible stats and move pools (tyrogue only learns tackle by lvl up and only gets thief and mud slap coverage)....
cleffa, igglybuff and togepi are all bad but have interesting movepools (cleffa gets shadow ball for example)
magby and smochum are decent with good offensive stats and some good moves but very frail
elekid is amazing, gets thunder punch at lvl 8, learns both fire punch and ice punch and gets thunderbolt at lvl 41. makes me think electrabuzz could be B tier or even A.
47:22 dude, you literally described my Gold and Emerald playthroughs so far. XD
This is a great father's Day gift for me!
This is gonna be tough. If anyone can do it, it's you, but good lord. Happy fathers day
This one's gonna be so fun!
Hey Scott, love the videos, i have a question. I know you customize you mons to have like perfect IVs and natures but do ever give them EVs?
@ Scott's Thoughts hey Scott theres actually more gold berries in the ruins of alph in crystal at the Aerodactyl puzzle once you have surf and flash you can get into secret room with it and the ho oh puzzle but unfortunately youd have to alsp have ho oh and in your 1st party slot too in order to get that one...
me and my buddy love your content. We are making a drinking game out of it. Keep it up, and let us know more rules we should add
Oh, Pikasprey is gonna love this one :)
Part of me wonders if they could revamp transform so that you can choose one of the last 4 pokemon you fought as your pool of transformations. Probably would be too abusable, but I feel like there is a way to make it more interesting.
The Morph ability in later generations definitely helped though!
i knew ditto had bad stats,but holy didnt realize they were THAT BAD. hyped to see how this one turns out
I'm only starting the run, but Im very curious how you do in this one. One of the first Pokemon challenges I ever saw on UA-cam was Pikasprey playing Crystal with just a Ditto. It'll be interesting to see what methods you use compared to what he did and how far he got.
He got to the same conclusion.
"i have 2 great balls" scott out of context
Oh boy, I can't wait for the second run! *wink wink*
Another variation on it is Ditto, but you can use certain items like PP restores and such to get around the 5 PP problem. Or maybe multiple dittos.
As far as I understand, one other relevant stat survives transforming, besides HP: the user’s level is kept, which is used in damage calculation, so a higher-level ditto can do more damage while transformed into the same pokémon with the same Attack. It’s small relative to the gains from actually gaining Attack from one’s level-ups, but it can help a bit. Not so much in this run where transforming was almost never an option, though.
No wonder my dad still hasn't come back from the grocery store. Look how long it takes a dad to beat Pokemon Crystal!
what a brutal run
Im only halfway through when you get the ether, and i was thinking maybe you could use it as a strat to transform into a pokemon midway through a trainer battle?
One bit of critique: I think when it's possible for Transform to work on a gym leader or rival battle, you should try it at least once. So far that's just Whitney, I think the Clefairy could potentially win with Metronome and its other moves, but it's more interesting tactically than just using Struggle for every major battle. I'll come down here and list the battles that I think Transform could potentially win.
Whitney (as mentioned), Chuck maybe, Pryce if your affinity for Rest would win you it, Bruno seems possible but then you'd have to use Transform for Karen which, lmao. Blaine and maybe Jasmine seem possible, but otherwise the major fights just don't work.
Man, that playthrough really was a...struggle
*Guitar riff*
It’s really cool that we got to see Ditto 2 before Ditto 1 lol
Shez le Feck! I knew Ditto was nowhere near as good as its animated counterpart, but this is straight up embarrassing. It did pretty well in certain places, however it isn't tough enough to go all the way. Perhaps Ditto would be an interesting addition to Clay Fighter.
Perhaps a baby Pokémon competition to fill in some of the lower end of the board. Or Shuckle, perhaps? Hoothoot?
Take a breather. You deserve it!
37:27 how did the interaction between opposing Dittos go? Did the opponent transform into a Ditto with 5 uses of transform or did its transform just fail? I found that more interesting than I thought it would be.
It would be cool, if transform confuses the opponent. This way, there would be a chance, that the opponent would not have a free hit in every fight.
I mean it could make sense because the other Pokemon would be like "wait a minute, that thing was something else like a second a go"