Custom Windows OS Claims LOWER LATENCY and MORE PERFORMANCE
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2024
- You’d be pretty crazy to say you DON’T want more performance and lower latency from your gaming PC, so the rather bold claims from AtlasOS sound awfully appealing. They say Windows is slow, clunky and unreliable, and more potently, “F**k Windows, Upgrade to Atlas”. They say it’s “Designed for gamers, with improved in-game framerates and lowered latency”. Those are some bold claims, but luckily I built an open source latency testing tool, so we can put those claims to the test!
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Reminds me of when I ran Windows Server 2003 as my gaming OS and disabling services and manually assigning processes to certain cores.
bro i remember doing this. totally big brain back in the day. I also used windows 2000, which back in its day was the most stable windows OS that you could game on. of course, back then, we could do a lot more tweaking with OSes than what's being offered to end users of 10 and 11, which is why we're stuck pretty much hacking custom windows versions now.
I've done this back in a day as well. Best OS I ever used. Windows Server 2003 as workstation was a bomb :)
Where's the data on Win11 testing?
I made 2 videos about Atlas OS running on Bulldozer and Haswell, it did help make those PCs more responsive to use, but the performance gains were very minimal.
its supposed to be for lower end systems
@@BlamYT Yup, works great for 2nd and 4th gen i5's
where are ur videos?
@scropx33 I got bored of the videos and removed them. My comment still stands, though. Performance fps wise was negligible, but usability is noticeably better.
I am runnint r5 2600 w gtx 1660 s. on windows11 stock metro exodus run at 120 - 140 fps and on Atlas os it ran even 200 in some parts but i set it to 144 and it was all stable
As a video idea of the same vein, consider comparing linux performance vs windows. I'd try two or three distros that are popular for gaming to see if you can just use an open source OS instead of ricing windows to make it 'better'.
won't change the fact you'll run sooner or later into problems with gaming and games
@@xBintuonly happens with antichest games, proton works with most other games
Sir, would You be kind enough to suggest a dissembler script, like the one You use on win 10 but for win 11. Many thanks and kind regards ☺️
I second this pls
Got a project Acer Aspire one that I'm working on got 8gig and a m.2 nvme 250 gig SSD in it which windows do I use I heard you need windows 10 64bit to activate the full 8gig ram is this correct 😅
You need 64bit anything for +4gb ram.
@@abdou.the.heretic cheers mate I had a accident with the bios battery I just touched it and it fallen off spewing that it's a write off as it can't be fixed but if I dropped it it would have broke live and learn
will u give a try to os i made ? check the latency if there any improvement
I think its amazing. I installed it as a secondary win jntall on 2nd SSR just for games.this works great and gaming improvement is worth it
thx very much for video its help so much 💯❤
I've used AtlasOS on some machine configurations from high-end to potato and I agree that it works. I mean, it's barely noticeable on high-end machines but it works quite well on mid-range machines and potatoes. In my daily machine (Ryzen 5 1600, 16GB RAM, RX570 8GB), AtlasOS also makes the machine increase FPS (though not much), I'm not sure about the latency (because the latency of stock Win 10 is always better than Win 11 ) but when I played Valorant, the 1% FPS actually improved. I hope you will test Atlas OS with Windows 11, and try benchmarking Valorant like what the Altas team did.
March 10, 2024 12:57PM
sometimes resizebar makes huge different in 1% lows. warzone / valorant / csgo are gaining perfomance when enabling it. 4070ti / 5800x3d win11
Does anyone have a debloat script that gives granular control while allowing options that may be more niche to data science developers or squeezing massive amounts of performance out of cuda and 3d programs?
What is the lowest reaction latency and best response time with the highest monitor HZ
Lg 27gr95qe 240hz oled is pretty insane
@@V1CT1MIZED yeah i have that monitor, its awesome. Has nice HDR too
Great Vid!
Nice video! but i accidently installed atlasOS and it was fine but now it crashing my pc every day with the same error that i cant find on Google. :(
Lite builds like X lite, Atlas, etc are made for low spec computers with 4gb ram and older CPUs. You are using a CPU, and K model lol, that most people would not have in their old desktops or low powered laptops. The only benefit with newer hardware like yours would be in telemetry performance, or windows background processes that start running in the middle of gaming sessions which on a modern K model cpu wouldn't even be noticed compared to much older hardware most people are using.
It is for Sure Faster Tested also on Laptops , Stock windows takes alot Resouces of your Maschine and MS telemetry Spy even Worse .
Also you CAN NOT disable defender in windows so when you cna not do something with app in your oc it's called spyware/junkware.
For audio latency (for audio production in windows) I have found atlasos/revios to drastically improve my experience and allow me to drop latencies by 10-20%
You wont see much of an improvement in gaming/fps on average, but you will see better 1% lows due to less background apps popping up
Very nice! Thanks!
There are tons of placebo and even possible virus that people claim helps their input latency in games.
Good to have some actual grounded testing and reality checks for stuff like this.
There's no placebo man i swear my windows 11 laptop was running like shit and everything changed with AtlasOs
@@almaka17Yeah brother😂
@@cristiann02yy its because the hardware is aging but i agree new hardware won't really see a difference and the only reason I'll see myself using atlas is because of debloating and the customization of atlas
@@almaka17 yes I already know
no placebo here, old hardware and old experienced user, if u are on old hardware this is monumental
While gaming, in most scenarios it wont affect performance, however the desktop is much faster, and less background junk, I had a big issue with Microsoft Edge using 100% of my CPU, my games would stutter a lot, and since atlas, edge is gone and my games dont stutter anymore
my specs are
i7 10750h
1660 ti
16gb ram
512gb ssd
Yeah i mean it does make a giant difference on lower end hardware it only really shines on lower end hardware
@@almaka17 mate, i have a 6 core i7 10750H, some weird sh1t was happening
@@Coruko-nh8ufcould you explain??
There is a new healing os coming out. I believe its called playtron os
The Problem with Atlas OS is that no Grafic Tweaks Inside i got my own Nvidia Driver and many more that make Atlas OS then Perfect .
can this be setup for dual-boot alongside windows10 pro(x64) ?
But u need to partition your storage into 2 , one for 10 pro and one for atlas
0.4 of Atlas is more refined than 0.3.1 and has a lot more compatibility for security features
The community ruined it, added more bloat options because "MY PCCCCCC :(((("
Going to try it on an 11-year old AMD A-10 6700 Quad Core. Hoping to play valorant at 60fps with integrated graphics
I use it on multiple older laptops, it's a lifesaver. Atlas rocks
there are other customs with similar performace
@@andreschusty7551and there is also atlasos with similar performance
Is there a difference between 10 and 11 from your testing?
For lower end hardware i believe windows 11 is alot slower both on stock and with AtlasOs so windows 10 is better
@@almaka17 we testet windows 10 vs 11 on best buyable hardware and win 10 ist much faster. Maybe even here could Atlas help, but i dont know
your missing the point, this builds are great on budget builds with low disk space and/or ram, boot times also are a factor, fps and latency..maybe not
I never use av or defender, not a single issue if you know where your going
Even if you address this issue some of them just install this on their secondary hard drive. If you like want to play competitive game you won't see any difference. Well of course you would see some tiny results in Minecraft but other than that I have installed it on my main computer and I am still using it. I got absolutely no problem with it. I installed Atlas before I even do debloating. I am happy with it now and it feels so faster even in my HDD. It feels like SSD. I also play Call of duty 4 Modern Warfare. Before I install Atlas I get maximum 40 fps while after installing I get about 70 fps with more tweaking I get maximum 80-90. Although, Great Video. Keep it up!
Edit: I also wanna address that it is only for Low end Laptop/PC. If you like have a high and you still don't care then just install it. Atlas only exist just to make Windows feel snappier like Windows 7. It's ram usage and memory usage is insane. If you like have 2 GB DDR3(more older laptop) installing Atlas iso would use 500 mb which is just insane.
I just bought a pretty good mid range pc that absolutely doesn't need atlas but i just hate all Microsoft bloat like copilot and edge so its still pretty good and i have the option to enable all security options
@@almaka17 You don't even need one unless you are into some gaming action.
wonder how Tiny11 or Tiny10? woudl fare against Atlas or stock windows (bet about same performance?)
Tiny11 is amazing. I've been using it since it came out
Actually tiny11 doesn't have performance tweaks like atlas or even revi so the performance is actually slightly worse almost like stock
Tnx🔥🔥
i used to run atlas and always noticed some weird hitches and random things that didnt work . now im on iot ltsc with zero tweaks and it feels more stable atleast for my usage. just games and browsing web..
i run win7 for 6+ years with no updates and no defender or antivirus and never get infected with anything. So unless you know what you doing its probably best not to use atlas. Me in the other hand, found atlas to be perfect since I dont have to disable all those things manually that im gonna disable anywway.
removing microsoft edge is not a good a deal as you think, as some parts of the Windows UI rely on edge, or at least the edge system webview.
I use LTSC win, still need a bit debloating and then its the best option IMO. Still original MS, thinking on Tiny 10, and other variants but I never pulled the trigger.
update it won't have the AI spyware windows just implimented
its supposed to be for lower end systems thats why u dont see significant difference
CPU bug mitigation disablingmight be useful for XEONs, especially for overclocked and old, such as for 2011-3 socket. I have not a single clue why it might be used with modern CPUs, such as mine i9-10900k, which had almost no loss in performance for my CAD software and compilers, and
It definitely is. My primary until recently was a 1680v2 @ ~4.5GHz and while I'd have to look up exactly how much of a benefit there was, it was definitely noteworthy. Honestly I genuinely don't think disabling these is much of a risk at all for average users but it really isn't going to help modern systems. Disabling defender is useful for benchmarking and more accurate readings tuning memory but this isn't hard to do manually. I wrote a batch script like 5 years ago that turns it on and off without issue.
@@JJFX- 1680v2 came out in 2013, i9 that i have was produced in mid 2020, though i have E5-2678v3 and it also feels bad after that update, i would rather recommend deleting 16-bit part of OS (the used for hibernation and startup) as it poses much serious security risks than CPU's backdoor. As i knew from a friend, i5-13900f is also fine after security mitigation
I don't remember since which gen, but newer INTEL CPUs have those mitigations baked into hardware
@@GewelReal 12th if i'm not mistaken
Windows LTSC with Chris Titus Tech's tool is the optimum way to go , can you review it ?
don't use it as a daily driver because some apps don't really work, directx doesn't work only the offline one does same goes with the office it does not work with cloud installation and adobe creative cloud too, it just doesn't really work
What tha heck is that thing in your screen?
Latency analyzer
@@femboy_twink Interesting. Thank you.
Thanks! I won't install it on my 7900XTX + 5800X3D system then^^
Review chris titus tech winutil debloater and microwin iso please
I'm actually not terribly worried about security here. As long as your only gaming... And I mean ONLY gaming, you will probably be fine.
I don't think its spyware to be honest i mean atlas as well as ame wizard are open source so I won't worry
Why should you be limited to only gaming?
Unless you are specifically searching for websites to exploit your computer or trying to download and run software that is a virus, it shouldn't matter.
As far as I know Windows defender isn't going to do anything against a direct day zero attack because it's unintelligent... It just compares things that are running against an archaic library of viruses and tries to guess.
@@stevenswall i think he's saying that he doesn't trust atlas os but the thing is its open source and they actually recommend reactivating windows defender afterwards
@@stevenswall i used atlas for quite some time and its actually really great and also pretty secure so idk what he's yapping about
Atlas is actually pretty good as stable.
KernelOS FTW
Recommends a script that's no longer maintained.. 👎 Generally, bad advice all around here.
I tested Atlas OS and was disappointed. I had a bad experience with Windows and games, so I reformatted and used Chris Titus Tech's tool. My PC is much better, nothing to see and nothing broken on the OS.
Sometimes it breaks lol you either did something wrong or didn't have luck
@@almaka17 Yes, maybe! I'll try another day 😉
My Windows installation was brand new, so it seemed strange to me. It's true that there are fewer processes and that's great for small configurations and the system in general, but there's no photo, I have a better feel for the windows system with chris' tool.
where is the latency data? you are basically showing rendering pipelines and testing nothing
So is it like Windows XP Black where it transpired it was full of some nasty shit?
A no go on any computer where you are going to type in credentials. Windows is even unsecure enough with factory presets. I learned that the hard way.... On weaker hardware one can try Linux, its far less bloaty than Windows, far. I run Linux on 15 yo dualcore machines with 4 Gb Ram for office, media and internet browsing.
Its crazy how some people don't use their peanut sized brains like the project is literally open source
I use debloat tools
I been telling people for years it makes no difference, even had the creators trying to tell me different on my discord server, they won't listen and still insist you get massive gains with Atlas 😂😂 Good job.
it does with someone who has a bad computer but people with decent specs your right
Bro of course it makes no difference you probably have a powerful computer which isn't slowed down by the os but lower end computers are gonna have a massive difference both in multitasking latency and even gaming
@@almaka17 ngl my bro your a month late ⏰
@@Jayy_R2 yeah ik i watched this video when it came out but i never see my UA-cam notifications and just came across someone responding to me on this video
old pc here, massive difference - no placebo, u are too wrong
It's not about the FPS gains, It's about the "Diagnostic Data" that get sent to those Costum OS "Devs". 😉
Diagnostic data and telemetry is disabled in atlas
And one more thing. Windows security is a joke anyways. I highly doubt anyone that has or had a virus on their pc has been saved or actually protected by microsofts security. I have never seen anyone say its helped. If anything it hinders performance anyways.
I just wanted to say that these results look either entirely made up. I say that because everyone else using everything else besides windows notices significant performance gains. Less cpu utilization. And less memory usage. Alot of this has to do with the fact that windows wether you turn of background services or not will run whatever they wish at any Givin time. Not to mention they run Spyware and phishware. So they can keep track of everything you do on top of collect your data and sell it. Anyone can look at tasks and see that on the low end windows run something like 150 to 200 processes. And after running for a couple hours and go back and check, now not only has cpu utilization quadrupled, but so hasn't the number of processes. The best part, no matter what you do, you can't stop it. And if you do. And windows 11 is even worse. The only ones that still hold windows in high praise are microsoft schills. I'm still on windows 11 and had windows 10 a short while ago. I'm making the jump to Linux. Because I can't stand seeing my system components be at 100% utilization or usage while playing a number of different games. I have tried all the examples I have seen to get similar results to what people are showing. And find it obvious when no matter what, it's always worse. Even when I have the same hardware. I strongly urge people to stay open minded and do their own research.
Why not test windows 11? Makes this video kinda pointless
Cuz w10 its better for low-mid end pc and w11 its better for high end pc thats why
@@cristiann02yy So you're saying a 13600k is a low end cpu and testing with a single game that already runs at 400+ fps is a valid approach? Lol
5600x 3080 rtx way better and stable fps in cs2 way better low fps with atlas vs win 11
fk stock windows , thats all . i use custom iso's fo years tried bunch of them and nave faced security problem with it , i donno where you people get you custom iso from but you need to look for the right one
Yay, W10 in 2024, a single game that runs at 400+ already, one API, one resolution ... and the shortest possible mention that this might actually work well on older hardware and W11 ^^
Sorry dude, but this video is joke.
If you don't like windows modifications that's fine, but don't make ppl waste 15 minutes of their lives.
Yeah pass
I spent about 3 minutes skimming through this OS and found several vulns if you use this you have to get ur head in gear 😂
You don't need Windows Defender if you're not using Torrent & cracked software
wrong... that is when you want to disable it because it keeps spitting out false positives ALL OF THE DAMN TIME.
If you are paranoid because of false positives, it is better you stay clear anyway, you probably are the type that is not able to tell trustworthy from actually shady sources.
No creator is going to make a large recommendation against it because of the general audiences but this isn't far off from the truth. Anyone who's fairly tech savvy is fine but I wouldn't strip it out entirely. That's just not necessary.
Its also partially closed source. another red flag
Source? Atlas and ame wizard are open source
Bro,only ame wizars is a partially closed sourse,atlas and ame wizard program are all open source
@@almaka17 source citrus techs review go and watch it if don't you believe me , could be out of date now however
@@fenicy Chris Titus tech review
@@rphilipsgeekery4589they have a github page with their latest release, so i argue it is open
You don't need security if you know how to keep away from malware
Looks awesome! Closed source is cool, means they’ll make money and be sustainable. Without profit there’s no sustainability.
No. Blender is open source and is doing better than any other 3d modelling software out there. Being open source don't stop you from making money
Same with osrtt & osltt
I don't think it is look at their website both ame wizard which is the tool used by atlas and atlas itself are open source
DISABLING DEFENDER IS NOT RED FLAG. MICROSOFT DOES WHAEVER IT CAN TO FIGHT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MODIFYIT'S COPY OF WINDOWS TO THEIR LIKING. Also im developer and my 100% legit, clean application is a TROJAN by Defender's opinion :) defender is CRAP
safety risk and placebo
nah there's benchmarks with latency info.
@@_death_446 link please
Safety risk? The project is fully open source if you don't trust them just check the code yourself or ask someone who knows to check the code