I tried Tiny11 on a Laptop from 2008..
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2023
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What do you think of Tiny11? Is it worth it? Or do you think Linux is better for old PCs?
Tiny11 can also run on old PCs.
I feel linux is better for them as you can never trust a 3rd party Windows ISO as it could be infected with anything without your knowledge.
I prefer Tiny 11
Like a few ex girlfriends would say, that's a lot of power in a tiny package...
I Prefer The OG software that it runs
I am so curious where you’re from. Dropping little things like an ‘a’ or ‘the’, is super European, but your “Hollywood” accent is really impressive.
Lol thanks! I'm native Lithuanian but picked up an American accent as a child watching UA-cam and tons of American media :D
As an English language learner from Europe, I’m curious where exactly did you spot the excessive use of articles in this video. Because I didn’t catch anything unusual while rewatching it in 2x speed :)
So, as a native speaker, there are super small things that you can catch, kind of like an american can tell if someone is canadian or midwestern based off of cadence, inflections, and turns of phrase etc. Just dropping small things like an 'a' or 'the' shows english is not native. All the same, his knowledge of the language is damn impressive. If I could speak any other language with half the fluency he does, I'd consider that impressive. @@aRandomPersonOfTheInternet
you speak wonderfully! thank you for the reply. I've thought about putting tiny 11 on my steam deck.@@SurfsharkAcademy
@@SurfsharkAcademyyo I’m Lithuanian too! I totally thought you were polish before
This UA-cam channel is actually so good. Instead of just promoting their product (which I pay for and believe is definitely worth it), they actually make videos about very interesting technological topics which are very high quality and sometimes even more engaging/interesting/entertaining than videos from larger UA-camrs such as LTT.
It is unlike other similar channels which just have promotional videos and nothing else. This channel and the Surfshark company is truly top notch!
how much did you get paid to post this comment
I really appreciate you commenting this, truly!
@@Connie_TinuityError nothing I just thought the video was very good...
I didn't even notice this was Surfshark's channel.
yeah, these are very good content, they actually focus solely on content and promotes a very small portion to their product.
3:25
Rufus also gives you 6 additional options if it detects that you are adding a Windows 11 ISO (it doesn't need to be Tiny11 specifically), and one of these options is to disable the requirement for TPM 2.0. The other 5 are just as useful. Pretty neat stuff.
12:29
You can also use an application called BloatyNosy to debloat the system. Maybe a suggestion for a future video? :)
Also, great video! Hold my thumbs up!
hey can you help me?
an old laptop which is HP 2000notebook i want to try the tiny11 do you recommend?
@@GHlKl phoenix is lite or revision os
ghost spectre is the best
@@rizonware can it work on a 4gb ram amd E300 cpu?
Exactly
for doing normal browsing, pdf reading, consuming media, linux is still better choice for old computer. specially when you use something like openbox, it would run like recent hardware
Yeah Linux is still lighter IMO
I am using GhostBSD on a 2012 laptop with an AMD dual core CPU and 8 gigs. it runs like a charm now.
yeah but linux, in my personal experience, can have alot of problems with the wifi adapter chips and require to install some goofy 3rd party drivers.
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg that could be pretty much any OS tbh.. at least windows kinda same when windows itself does not have from its repo.
Yep, Linux is complicated but is worth it for ancient hardware even older than this laptop in the video. But for Tiny11, I’d definitely recommend it over CrOS Flex due to it’s simplicity of running stuff like EXE files and browsing the web well
I got i3 3rd gen laptop. Installed tiny10 to replace win7 last year. It worked like a charm. No need to go to Tiny11 from the same developer.
I have full win11 on latitude e6430 (i7-3720qm,16gb ddr3, 1tb samsung 870 qvo) and it works ok
@@C64Loverno crap, your system requirement matched with Win11 recommended specs.
@@bagasangga well.. except 8th gen intel core and tpm 2.0 ;)
@@C64Lover _bruh..._ I didn't expect to use the proccessor that was a year ago without a TPM 2.0 XD.
So, is it UEFI or legacy BIOS only?
@@bagasangga UEFI
On a stock Windows 10/11 install, make sure to select English (World) option to remove 3rd party bloat from the beginning
Good tip! Will have to try it sometime
..don't forget to change after install, or nothing will update. Don't worry, it'll let you know.
Not working anymore. Microsoft fixed that.
@@mariussm7797 I couldn't get it on windows 10 recently either, but 11 worked (for me).
Microsoft removed that opinion
I've used Tiny 11 and also Tiny 10 before, and they're fine for their purpose. The problem is when you get a new major update, sometimes things get really broken. Nowadays I'm all LMDE6 on all of my laptops, with Windows 11 only on my gaming machine...which I will change when I'm not feeling so lazy.
After installing Tiny 11, run Chris Titus' Winutil to remove even more stuff. After start up, then run KillEm utility to kill processes to give you more CPU and memory.
If you need Chris "Mr. Flip-Flop For Views" Titus for your PC support then, "God help you".
@@terrydaktyllus1320 haters gotta hate
@@jalisahkennedy4845I sure they do, but I fail to see what relevance that has to my point.
Why would I hate someone who provides me with endless "flip-flopping" amusement while I enjoy my first cup of coffee in the morning?
Only a toddler thinks in terms of "hate".
"Get me those sweets, mummy, or I will hate you forever."
I don't need to hate anyone who I can simply choose to ignore and who has no influence on anything I do.
You're not a toddler, are you?
U just said a whole lotta nothing also why am I getting a noti for this 😭 idek wdh ur talking abt
Bro whattt😂 me sitting here wondering wdh U speaking abt 😭
The best thing to do for old computers that are absolutely needed to run a modern OS is to install more RAM, provided that's possible. The laptop in this video only has 3GB. Even back in the day, I wouldn't purchase my machines with so little memory. 4GB minimum is a must. Laptops from this era should be upgradeable to 4GB if not 8GB. All my HP laptops from this time can be increased to 8GB. It makes a HUGE difference, even in browsing.
If RAM is sufficient, replacing the HD with an SSD is the next step, and that will transform the system. They're dirt cheap. It doesn't matter what OS or software you have installed on an old computer if the hardware is not up to the task. This video is a 'can it be done' experiment. Of course, it can be done but it's not enough to install a stripped-down version of an OS, any OS, to run apps these days. I have laptops from 2008 that I use _daily._ You really need to upgrade the hardware in a legacy system for daily use. After that's done install a light OS.
I had an old windows laptop with 4gb of ram. Was slow as hell til I upgraded to 12 gb of ram, and after that the speed increase was incredible. I don’t use that computer anymore tho because last year I got one that’s a lot, LOT better
How do i download ram
@@lindypill you dont
I personally use a dell latitude E5500 as my daily PC. It had 4gb of ddr2 upgradable to 8, a core 2 duo p9700 upgraded from a t7250 a Intel gm45 chipset gpu and a 250gb 860evo.
It's more than usable, needs more ram, though 4gb sticks of ddr2 are horrifically expensive. Other than that it's great and can do some light gaming like half life and even triboots windows xp, 7 and 11 all x64
The elevated price for 4Gb ram stick sucks. I flip old laptops and there is a lot of performance still to be milked out of older models that can be upgraded to 8Gb, yet the cost makes it prohibitively expensive to buy
I would also recommend ventoy instead of Rufus, I think it's a bit faster and allows you to have a bunch of other ISOs loaded on the same drive
Can't believe someone else uses the solid colour trick! I always use the colour black since I use wallpaper engine anyway
Wallpaper engine is awesome
thank you! very helpfull video!
That thinkpad L480 is pretty cool, i have a e480 with a 7th gen i5 that I use for isolated app testing
the installation speed depends greatly on your host media speed, meaning your tiny usb flash drive also has tiny speed. ssd source installs almost immediately.
Now I gotta try this with my laptop from 2012/2013!
I use my old laptop from 2012 or 11 i think (not sure how old but it is old) to play retro games and watch videos on my tv by vga. I used linux, tiny 10, android x86, batocera, lakka, retropie. Linux was by far the best for me. Android x86, for me, did not have native bridge which did not allow some android apps and games to run at all.
I have a toshiba a300 from 2008, it's sorta obsolete (Core 2 Duo paired with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470), it has windows 8.1 with 3 GB ddr2 ram and an HDD. It's surprisingly kinda fast, I have no idea why it's so good, but I still use it sometimes for fun, like playing Half life or Garry's Mod in the range of 20-30 fps.
Windiws 8.1 Pro is the quickest and most efficient modern Windows, period.
8:00 You can install latest macOS on older unsupported MacBooks by just flashing it from a bootable drive and it works just fine. Many people over YT have done that as well for your reference.
The drawback with windows 11 versions like this is they are about to implement patches that will detect the actual hardware and disable win 11 if its not running all the requirements despite the install bypass. They do make a similar version to this of windows 10 that I use instead. Windows 10 lite.
Tiny10 exists, if you have an old PC that handles windows 10, then you'd rather try Tiny10 which gives you enough options, if you really really need a working windows on that machine.
some windows 7 machines can run tiny10 ok too
i heard tiny10 messes up some things with the gpu because it has no windows store, might not get it.
I'll get tiny11, because I've seen people get a better experience with it
Thanks for your work. Would you like to update the Arm64 version of Win11 to the latest version?
I own an Intel MacBook Pro from 2015. I'm considering installing Tiny 11 on it because it can't get updates anymore due to lack of storage. Plus other issues as well.
Try out Windows 10 LTSC. It is an edition of Windows 10 that has absolutely no bloatware, no OneDrive, No UWP, ONLY X86_64. It even has the Windows 7 Calculator. You will get what feels like lifetime support upto 2035.
2035, woah! Nice going to try that one!
@@SurfsharkAcademyHe made a typo. It is up to 2025.
@@OnlySolyn He said about regular one, not IoT.
aint it until 2032? the ltsc iot version i mean
Me using too
It also have no ugly multimedia programs so i installed irfanview with minimalizing options in configuration, and winamp
It's better than vanilla windows bloat
I installed Win 10 Pro on a 2013 hp with core i3, but many drivers were missing I had to give up, how did you install win 11 on such an old pc ? Where did you get the drivers ? Thanks
I did a comparative performance test on a Nickelodeon - branded Dell Netbook running on an Atom processor and 1GB ddr2, first booting to Tiny 10 and then to Zorin OS, and Zorin was, by far, the most responsive. The netbook was booting from a HDD, so that makes it even more impressive.
You are comparing apples to oranges here.
@@JamesSmith-ix5jd I am literally comparing operating systems, so…no
@@guaiqueritech the difference here is zorin was developed for low end hardware meanwhile that's not the case for windows ppl modded it to get it to work but it doesn't mean stability you r comparing things means for completely different systems to begin with
What do you suggest for my Thinkpad t420 with i5 2520m and 6 gb ram ? i actually am a full stack developer and have a dual boot of linux and windows but in the windows part i want an OS that is best for productivity, also looks alright and runs most windows programs new and old.
So if you would be so kind It would really help me out 😄
Tiny10 ofc
Windows 10 LTSC 2021
I have Tiny10 on my old laptop. It's so much better than Tiny11 since the bloat is missing and now runs in my living room.
I currently have a 2006 laptop runing Revision OS 11 installed via Playbook and let me tell you, it is greater than tiny 11 because it is well-performant and uses less memory, on idle I get 32-ish percentage of memory usage.
On older laptops, is it smarter to add more ram or change the hard drive to SSD to gain some speed?
I use windows 11 ghostspectre, I find it better than tiny 11 cuse you can select what microsoft apps you want after installation is done
Question: can a i5 6500 paired with 16 GB ddr4, 256 GB SSD (Sata or nmve) plus an HDD of 500gb be enought to do: web design (paired with Photoshop, ilustrator and adobe XD or Figma), use some electric and electronic circuit simulation apps ,PCB and PCL design (simple things for a university student), use of control and automation systems apps (also simple things for a university student), project management applications and programming with arduino, assembly language, bank and Windows system apps Ana other things related to this Os system?
I use 8.1 cutdown version on c2d PCs. It works way better on old hardware and HDDs than 10 and 11, and also works optimal on old laptops like core i5 2360m, where Win10 running suboptimal even on ssd.
There is a program that updates the date of the pc every time you turn it on, I use it since I was too lazy to change that little battery from it.
I've been planning a retro Windows XP built (circa 2008), but I don't want to deal with program incompatibility, browsers not working, etc. I think this might be what I was looking for.
Rufus also bypasses the TPM 2.0 requirement.
Windows 10 on my 2013 Asus took about 5-10 minutes to be usable on boot. I put Zorin on it, from boot to open/editing Libre office Writer document: 56 seconds. Not going back.
Rufus will also remove the TPM requirement if you want to run an untouched windows iso
This deserves more views and likes.
Are you kidding me? Are you really that naive? How about he make a video about how he's scamming all these surfshark customers out of their hard-earned money? Surfshark doesn't hide your IP address or current location. You can test this just by going to Google and asking what the current weather is, or what your IP address is. And unlike what he says on these ridiculous videos, it doesn't matter what protocol you use or what location you choose on the app, it will still show your real location's weather. So nothing is being hidden and nothing is private. So he needs to stop effing lying to all these people!! Surfshark is nothing but a scam and needs to be reported to the authorities!!
how about Atlas OS for debloating? i've been using it on some of my laptops here that are at the same age as yours idk if that would be something you'd be interested in making a video
4:24 Thumb up icon lid up in colors , when you ask to leave a like.
yes it even works woth the subscribe button same colorful ring
SHOULD I DO A FRESH REINSTALL OF WIN 7 OR GO FOR TINY 11 ON MY OPTIPLEX 745 2007
rufus works for me for a long time.
but theres ventoy now, it supports multiple iso and you only need to do the process once
I’ve loaded Tiny10 into laptops of this era and similar specs, and it runs very decently. There are a few hoops to jump through to allow it to update (it’s disabled by design in the build I have), but it is a great alternative for people who 1) can’t be bothered to learn the nuances of a new OS and/or 2) require specific programs that only run on Windows
Wouldn't enabling updates reinstall some of the bloat and services that were removed originally?
@@zetsubou3704 yes it does
I’ve installed the full version of windows 11 on a dual core computer from 2008 with an ssd and it ran totally fine.
Yes, I have several laptops that were made in that year. Some have SSDs and that makes a huge difference. Also, their RAM is at least 4GB. I would never run a machine these days with less than that even for the lightest duty, regardless of OS.
@@jamesaron1967 yes 4GB is a must. 2GB is doable if you run a less resource intensive OS like windows 8.1, XP or Linux but still not ideal. Luckily most computers from that era can be upgrade to 4 sometimes 8GB of ram.
I'm trying on a Sony Vaio with windows 7 and it doesn't let me install windows 11, I did the bypasses but nothing
Im using 13 years old thinkpad just upgraded the hdd to sdd and now runs windows 10 and feels like a new laptop
I see this video on an Imac from 2007 with a T7700 and 4GB ram on WIN 11. It´s runs Great. Windows and the most prgramms don´t need so much Ram, then sey use in the Taskmangner. You can use Windows 11 With 2GB ram an on SSD With multible crhome/firefix tabs und small prgrammes in the backgound.
What was the antivirus shown in the video?
Can i install this over top of my windows 10 home edition and keep my files and apps or does it require the custom install option.. ive got 8gb ram and 2.6ghz cpu with 2 cores 250gb m.2ssd aswell its not compatible with windows 11 official as cpu not supported but specs are capable will it work on tiny 11
What about licensing for Tiny11? Do I have to worry about putting a Windows 11 license on it?
Can you compare this with the same laptop running chrome os flex?
6:49 - Should play fine if the display drivers are installed (I have this model of laptop so I might check and report back).
I'm watching this from a 2010 Laptop this is my second laptop and it's not obsolete because I have a I7 740QM and a HD 6370M GPU with 8GB Ram with Windows 10 (11 is shit) and to be honest with a SSD is fast as hell I don't need to upgrade since It's my second Laptop it works extremly well
That's still a great PC, enjoy!
i got a laptop with 4th generation cpu(1.70ghz, 2.40ghz turbo boost) i didnt made any upgrades on it and it works pretty well it can run bmgdrive on 26gfps which is playable im surpised it can run it obviously on low graphic but for a laptop made in 2016 that it came with a 256ssd 8gb ram 940m nvidia gpu and 2.40ghz cpu is really good it costed 300euros(1500PLN) im happy with it@@SurfsharkAcademy
Can you please easy for me..
Is it worth it to shift from Official Window 10 to Tiny11?
i am Confuse and Concern about security..
My Specs- Corei5 2nd Gen 4gb 120 ssd
Get the word windows , which have no apps pre-installed due to different laws but amigo. Even if you remove all the stuff from the store or the better modern app, the kernel is the same 😅
Based on the performance in that video, I would put Linux on that machine unless I absolutely, positively had to run Windows. And if I did need Windows, I'd probably step down to Windows 7. I'm running Windows 11 on my laptop right now, but I spend most of my time in Linux on my mini-PC.
I recently installed tiny11 on my win11 incompatible 2015 dream pc.
I also agree with using old hardware in modern days. It feels so great! I actually use an Inspiron 1525 from 2008 with an Intel Core 2 Duo T6400 daily. I tried many operating system: Windows Vista (default), Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu (haven't tried other flavours of Ubuntu tho). Ubuntu can actually be resource consuming too. Windows 10 is very slow on it and sometimes unusable. Windows 7 also can be slow at times and Windows Vista actually runs the best and gives good battery life too. Windows XP also runs the best but it's way too outdated relatively
I am installing it on my dell latitude e7450 which has the alot of ram for tiny11 which is 8 gigs, it doesnt have tpm 2.0 (it has 1.4) but the cpu is slow which is an intel i5 5th gen
I installed tiny11 on a pc that can run windows 11 very well even thought i had to bypass specs but tiny11 removed things i actually need like video player msgamingoverlay(for its recording capability) my win11 got corrupted so i installed tiny11
VLC? OBS?
Yeah- the Xbox overlay with its recording the past 30 seconds or something
Don’t know if there’s already an app that can do that
Vanilla video player, gallery sucks
Vlc, irfanview, winamp
can i back to window 10 or 8.1 or 7 i
f i install it i must format my pc or not
and he require to activate it or not
i have a question guys im on windows 11 pro acctualy and i want to go on tiny 11 but idk if that keep file and all that ?
What About Old Drivers which only supports Windows 7 ? Will they support Win 10 ?
Security updates might be an issue?
How is it with the windows updates? Good video btw
Are you kidding me? Are you really that naive? How about he make a video about how he's scamming all these surfshark customers out of their hard-earned money? Surfshark doesn't hide your IP address or current location. You can test this just by going to Google and asking what the current weather is, or what your IP address is. And unlike what he says on these ridiculous videos, it doesn't matter what protocol you use or what location you choose on the app, it will still show your real location's weather. So nothing is being hidden and nothing is private. So he needs to stop effing lying to all these people!! Surfshark is nothing but a scam and needs to be reported to the authorities!!
Depending on what you are going to do with that laptop, Linux might have been a better choice. I have an 8 year old Surface Pro 3 with 4gb of RAM and 120gb SSD in it. I have currently Debian installed on it and everything works great. I have also had Pop!_OS, Fedora, and Arch (which will probably be going back on it). It has done everything I needed and pretty responsive, even with Gnome as the DE, which if its a touch or pen device is the most friendly. Windows is ok for something, mainly online games and Adobe, if your stuck in their world. But I doubt you will be doing much of that on something that old unless you have some patience.
I am going to install this onto my personal laptop (Ryzen 7 4800H, 16 gig ram) just to reduce the amount of ram and cpu usage to give more room for games
Extensions like h264ify (or the enhanced version of that extension) do wonders for old laptops in youtube. UA-cam switched to VP8/VP9, and later to AV1 as their video codecs. Old laptops tend to lack GPU accelerated decoding for those codecs, and hence it has to be done via the CPU (which isn't exactly great on these old laptops). By using that extension, you force youtube to serve videos using the h264 codec, which is extremely well established, and for which these laptops more than likely have GPU decoding support. This massively lowers CPU usage and makes video playback a hell of a lot smoother. It does produce lower video quality and it caps at 1080p60, but for those laptops that is perfectly fine.
Just a few months ago i got tiny11, theres a newer version where microsoft edge is missing.
does the computer have to have UEFI in order to install Tiny 11 and where did you get that tiny usb drive, it is exactly what i have been looking for.
Are you asking about usb flash drive? In a local store)
arch linux with hyprland (installed via auto install script, im too lazy to create my own configs) revived my old laptop, you should try that
Advanced setting set the page file manually to start 16mb and max @ 8gb
Does tiny 11 support android games without emulator like in original windows 11
I just use Win10 ltsc for old computers and works amazing
You could go one step further and copy all the ISOs of your OSes to Ventoy :)
1 USB drive and as many ISO files that can fit on it, ready to install the one... 10 ISOs and 1 USB drive instead of 10 ISOs and 10 USB drives...
Can we activated
Tiny windows 10 and 11
Or we can not activated.
Hi thanks... Can you try Google Flex on the samt laptop... To compare it to tiny 11.
i also love old computers
I have i5, intel graphics 620 and 8gb of ddr3 will it work well? I want it for gaming btw..
I love debloated windows but i have a good enough low end laptop for 2023 (i3 1215U with 16gb Ram and NVME SSD) making this debloated windows is a little bit pointless but i also have dual core laptop that lags a lot so this tiny11 looks promising for my secondary laptop.
Debloat is always better, u can get better battery life and cooler temps
Does anyone know if Tiny 11 improves the battery life of modern laptops? I have a Surface Pro 8 that's just two years old but the battery life is horse poop, like 3 hours normal use. I wonder if Tiny 11 improves battery life? I am not expecting M1 MacBook level of battery but maybe 6-8 hours would be fine.
how much RAM does this laptop have?
could have mentioned how much space it would take o the c drive
Why I still have an update on windows 11 tiny?
Hows this thing using 6% cpu and 56% ram whic his the same as mine but i have a 10th gen intel i5 and 16gb of ram 😭😭
WinToHDD doesn't recognise it as valid OS , how to work then ?
curious, but how can you make the like button glow?
I noticed you bypassed windows update on Tiny 11 . Will windows update still install Nvidia graphics drivers and hardware requirements ? Will it download and update all the services tiny 11 removed ? Will Microsoft support a license for tiny 11 ? Will win 10 license key work on tiny 11 ? :O)
can you install tiny 11 WITHOUT Edge?
i love old computers
Surfshark should sponsor your videos mate
:D ikr
could tiny 11 help my netbook with some video playback in web browsing and as well possibly remotely play games?
you need a GPU with A good HW video decoder for this.
@@terabyte100 the other laptops I have though need repair though (currently have my gaming laptop and a netbook)
there's a pico11 version aswell btw.
I should install this on my Atom based surface 3.
Linux can be awesome and all but not all laptops work properly on some laptops, ESPECIALLY 2-in-1 laptops. Though I was able to workaround much better with Fedora but Tiny11 can help a lot of people who doesn't have any experience in tinkering their laptops.
What laptop is this btw?
Does anyone know how to make minecraft and xbox app work on tiny 10?
Windows 10 32 bit would work better considering dual core cpu and 3 gb ram and plus windows 10 is still supported for 2 more years
I also love OLD COMPUTERS!