In Germany the AW3225QF goes for 900 €. All other models between 1.350 € and 1.500 €. For me it's therefore the Alienware unless are absolutely do not want curved. The cheapest flat one actually being the DP 1.4 version of the Gigabyte one FO32U2 at 1.080 €.
I was just looking at the 34" ultrawides, and gigabyte are the cheapest by 130€, but also DP 1.4. Makes me a bit hesitant knowing their general quality is low.
It is worth noting that the glossy anti reflection coating is extremely fragile. Just using the wrong fabric to clean them will put scratches on it. Moving my monitor on its arm and accidentally touching the plastic surface of my desk lamp was enough to put marks on it. Those marks are not deep scratches as the surface is intact so not visible when pixels are lit, or when in the dark. But it's the AR coating that is removed at these spots and it's visible when there are reflections. The semi matte plastic finish on LG side is a lot more durable.
@@PoRRasturvaT don't take my advice but look into using a pencil eraser or Vaseline to remove small scratches it works on older monitors without the glossy coating.
These are the kind of insights I need! Even though none of these products are designed to have them scratched, knowing something like this may sway the choice from one monitor to another. Considering that all of these monitors are so similar, especially if we're not comparing between panel technologies.
I went for AW3225QF. I replaced my AW3423DWF with it because watching UA-cam on it wasn't good. I have no regrets. Recommend this monitor to anyone who is considering 4K OLED. It was also the cheapest one here in Slovakia - 1050eur.
Hey there, forgive me for being nosy but I have the same model, have you been able to get Gsync working through the HDMI 2.1 port ??? I can only get it to work through the display port
Same. It was the least expensive option for me. And all of them were priced so close that I basically picked MSI because it was available in the closest store and I like the flat stand lol.
Still waiting for the „What 4k *LCD* Monitor would I personally buy?“ video. I do mostly productive work, so no OLED because of burn-in, but I still want decent HDR for movies and „good enough“ latency for occasional games. A built-in docking station is also nice to have.
Best Buy had the Samsung G80SD for under $750 USD open-box. Mine's arriving today, hopefully you all can test it soon, especially since it has a different coating than the other QD-OLED variants!
Went with the Asus PG32UCDM and I love it! Amazing 4k monitor. By far the most I have ever spent on a monitor, but man what a difference. Not for everyone, but worth it to me.
@@Horned26 I got mine today, its a nice monitor but the software Samsung put on its a PITA. Who wants to register for a samsung account just to use a monitor.
Hopefully there will be a video thoroughly contemplating the best 4k mini-LED alternatives available. Burn-in-guarantees aside, many users would prefer not to bother with this to beging with. And then there´s the price difference to OLED. Plus, OLED would be for gaming only. Mini-LED is cheaper and more versatile, without having to deal with the downsides o low contrast IPS.
All the mini LED monitors I’ve ever used not made by apple have been awful. And I don’t say that as an apple fanboy or anything, just someone who’s seen a lot of different monitors
LG C2/3/4 42" OLED 4k 120hz. Best used in a dark room and without direct sunlight on it. 42" is actually a good size for immersion and the price can be quite low with discounts. And since it is a TV discounts happen frequently.
Thanks for Aussie prices inclusion! The Dell is often down around $1400 AUD…. which makes it hard to ignore unless you really gripe the curve. The other one in the similar price ballpark is the new Samsung G8 - flat but semi matte.
Having never used a curved monitor I was worried about this but having owned the Alienware for a couple of months now I can honestly say I don't really notice.
I finally found one at JB and the curve is so mild that I forgot about it even after a few seconds. Also you can get a refurbished one with full warranty for about $1200.
Because of your and others testing I got the ASUS PG32UCDM about a month ago. I really enjoy it (use it for 50/50 productity/gaming or media). Ive got a nice deal (1100 EUR) so it was worth it. Switched from 4k 60hz LCD and the difference is huge; couldnt imagine going back and finally the 4090 can show its true potential (if only I had the time to actually game lol...). BUT: Thanks for your deepdives. It really helps deciding!
Despite trade-offs with OLEDs, I definitely couldn't stay on LCDs until the early 2030's myself. I wish MicroLED tech was closer to real consumer release, but we're unfortunately a long way off.
@40Sec we will be lucky if we get one's below 5 grand before 2040. Manufacturing them is turning out to be absurdly difficult and progressing a lot slower than hoped
It might not be possible to wait that long. Whatever monitor you have today won't last till microLED monitors are available. Maybe,, just maybe you'll be able to get one in a TV size before the decade is out.
@@Uncle_Fred What do you mean when you say it won't last that long? There are plenty of LCDs from back when LCDs were a new technology that still work. The reason people aren't still using them in most cases is because they replaced them with better ones, not because they died.
@@Knowbody42 I think the rule of thumb is 30k-60k hours, or about 10-20 years with eight hours per day usage. It's really good to be sure, but MicroLED monitors seem to be about that far away. So add whatever number of years your current monitor is ontop of that. I think most monitors are likely to be destroyed by accidents beofr they die.
Surprisingly I found the LG 32 4k to be my favorite among a couple I tried. It has the best stand ergonomics. It’s got truly black blacks in the day, not purple tint. It has no text color fringing and good enough clarity. The matte coating is not “as” matte as other matte screens. It’s got simple controls. It’s not invasive about screen refresh. I got it on sale too.
This is where I think most folks should go ... it makes the most sense unless one is a competitive gamer ... which (let's be honest) most of us are not. Then just have an LCD on a monitor arm for non-gaming / media stuffs. :)
@@Snxgur Nah ... I'm talking about PC. Normal people are not all running 4090s ( _maybe the steam survey will prove that wrong_ ), and pushing more than 120fps/hz for HDR Ray Traced blah. Normal people are going to struggle to even hit 120fps most of the time ... unless they're reducing quality ... and ... again ... you're only really going to want to do that if your competitive gaming ... right? Otherwise it's all horrendously expensive, and largely pointless ... especially because you can only use it for one thing.
In Australia I regularly see it go on sale from $1900 to $1400. The cheapest I've seen any of the others is the MSI dropping to $1800. It's an insane price difference for an incredible monitor.
I had G60SD. You can't turn pixel shift off and it's fairly fast by default :/. There is no option(but maybe they'll add it in an update?). The back gets really hot at the center. So hot, in fact, that if you sit fairly close, you'll feel that warmth as the back gets to 55C in under 2 hours(at 26C ambient). The frame is uneven(bigger chin). And the extra pixels on the sides make it even worse when browsing. But it's fine during gaming. There is no 'wow' effect going from 240Hz to 360Hz regarding perceived fluidity. You'll need 480Hz instead to see it. Ports on the back are easily accessible and it's a breeze to set it up for VESA monitor arms. The back looks neutral which is nice. The led ring on the back is not intrusive and can be switched off. I had some weird vertical lines in games during motion when brightness was set to lowest(my preference) during grey and dark scenes which seem to disappear when you turn up the brightness(so a non-issue for most people). Not sure what's up with that. Text clarity is decent. "Dirty grey" effect is noticeable but not as bad as 2nd generation. Oh and regarding the matte coating of the G60SD - it's alright BUT it being the QD-OLED you need a fairly dim room to not see the raised blacks(and you'll unfortunately see the loss of contrast). At least they're not getting as purple as on last generation lol
I find it funny that new models are announced in CES but majority people buy in nov/Dec during holiday seasons. This always leads people buying hardware that will be "best" for just few months only to be replaced by a "better" tech.
@@pretentious_a_ness Maybe for US buyers since it's easy to get a good deal, but especially here the difference between an AW and an Aorus for example is like $600. 2nd Gen QD-OLED are good enough that I'd jump on a good deal rather than have the best tech and spend an extra $1000
I recently bought an Aorus FO32U2P. The Display Port 2.1 support was the dealmaker. I used my last monitor (Samsung U28E850D) for eight years, and I expect this one to last for a similarly long time. And even though current graphic cards don't support DP 2.1, future ones will.
This is good news since I just bought the MSI. One benefit of the MSI is also internal psu. Fewer bricks in my setup is nice. The MSI also supports more power through the USB-C (90 vs 65w on GB)
JB Hifi had the Alienware AW3225QF on sale for a very short time at $1511 Suffice to say I bought 2 of them. One for me and one for my daughter 😂 I cannot fault it. The modest curve doesn’t bother me at all. It’s my first curved monitor. I game 97% on my PC so it’s completely fine. I will say I had concerns about getting a gloss monitor as I’d never had one before and all reviews say how bad reflections and natural light are on them but again I cannot complain about this monitor. It handles them very well. I game mostly at night through the week but during the day on weekends at times. Not a problem. I appreciate all of the reviews you have done making the very tough decision on 32” 4k QD Oleds much easier. I agree the Gigabyte is a winner here in Australia but at $1500 I could not miss the opportunity. Cheers BTW this monitor is $1889.80 on Dell’s website. Has been for awhile… I must also say, no burn in at all after 6 months. I have the power settings at 5 minutes, taskbar and desktop shortcuts are hidden. I have had the same static wallpaper the entire time. No issues. I think they’re better than most people think. 👌🏼
42" LG OLED TVs are still the best bang for the buck you can get as a PC monitor. They require a little more configuration than a dedicated PC monitor but you end up with, typically, a much better result. Applications like LG TV Companion and ColorControl can give you that monitor like experience PC users are accustomed to while getting all the extra flexibility and control you get with a large format television.
My thoughts exactly. These current line of oled monitors are by and large just not bright enough for hdr use in mid to high apl scenes for the asking price.
The only reason I'm keeping my 42" C2 which I've been using for a year after switching from a 48" model is because it serves as a monitor and TV in my small apartment and, of course, because it was way cheaper than these monitors. But I would much rather use a 32" display as my main monitor. Watching movies on that would be a worse experience though. I honestly don't know how to solve this since I like having my desk and TV in the same space and I hate having expensive gear sitting around doing nothing most of the time which would be the result of buying both a monitor and TV.
@@agiverreviga4592 like i said in my comment (with detailed measurements) it requires less space than you might think. But I am not saying people should buy a new desk just to use a 42" monitor. If you have the room, it's a great, and in my mind, the best option.
this is the 2nd time in the past week where I am looking for as much good info about something i am about to buy and you or Steve release a video with the exact title for it
PG32UCDM owner here, and I can confidently say, all of these models are spectacular. It doesn’t matter which panel you buy. Get whatever you can afford!
Nothing beats the 42in LG C4. 144hz 4k QOLED. Has controller to change all settings and has GSync and freesync. And it’s bright and fantastic HDR. These 32in monitors are over priced as hell.
Here in Holland the first affordable 4K 32 inch OLED is the AOC Agon Pro AG326UD. It should be releasing near the end of September for € 849. The MSI monitors which are cheaper in the USA are the same price as the top tier brands such as LG and Samsung. I have no experience with AOC but I think it would be worth a gamble to see if it can match the MSI MAG 321UP which would be its direct competitor since it's also a 165hz monitor.
I’m in the US and got the MSI 321URX a few weeks ago and it’s been fantastic and such a joy to use for gaming, editing, and productivity. Although I really wanted dual mode I couldn’t justify the premium when I’m mainly a single player/code/warzone gamer, and even with my 4090 and 14900K you can barely get above 300 consistently on resurgence and big map can’t get above 300 unless you have crazy optimization. I’m glad MSI came in at their price point and made the panel basically as good as the rest
I'm really looking forward to 27" version of these OLED monitors. 32" just becomes a small TV in my eyes and I'd be interested to see if the pixel density makes a difference in clarity. I'd rather have a smaller, clearer monitor closer to my eyes than a larger one further away, being nearsighted and all.
Prices in my country: ASUS PG32UCDM: 1500 € MSI MPG 321URX: 1400 € Dell AW3225FQ: 1000 € LG 32GS95UE: 1300 € ASUS PG32UCDP: 1800 € Gigabyte FO32U2P: 1300 € Samsung G8 G80SD: 1000 €. So, if you want it cheap and don't want a curved screen, the Samsung might be your deal.
People waiting for 4k 360hz+ forget that there are only handful of games (more like competitive fps games such as overwatch and CS) that can reach such high fps in 4k. 4k 240hz is as practical as you can get.
Thank you for the reviw. I got Samsung neo G8, which is a miniLED and I love it:32", high brightness, HDR, 4K, 240 refresh rate, the best monitor I ever had
This is a super helpfull video. All of your reviews are great but only with one huge "flaw", and that is the price, it's super hard to know if the same recommendation would be applied in my country with the prices here. This video solves that issue, while also having all of the most recommended monitors in it. Thank you!
Glad you specified why the Dual-Modes aren't for you specifically. As someone who plays a lot of competitive FPS games as well as single-player games, Dual-Mode is a dream, otherwise I'd need 2 monitors.
LG c4 is the way to go for most people I think, if you're mainly wanting to play newer games in 4k it ticks most boxes and looks fantastic! If you need more than 120/144hz for competitive gaming then you aren't playing in 4k anyway... if you want cinematic 4k with potential for good frames if your gpu is up to it the 42 inch LG is a no brainer at less than all of these 32 in monitors. I got mine for $1600 AUD a few months ago and I imagine black friday sales should see them go lower than that😊
I went with the Gigabyte Aorus FO32U2P, partly due to DisplayPort 2.1, but mostly because it was the only one I could actually get. Initially I considered the MSI or the Asus QD-OLEDs, but they were never available and almost always had long estimated dates for delivery. Apart from 2 issues that luckily has been fixed with firmware updates, the screen occasionally going black in HDR and the EDID being wrong for RTX HDR, I have been happy with the Aorus.
Any plans/likelihood of getting the Samsung 57" Super Ultrawide Mini-LED display for review? I would love to see your thoughts on it, seems like it would be an absolute beast for productivity, and for gaming especially in sim racers, it would be insane... it is a Dual-4K-sized monitor though, so pushing frames would be a serious challenge. I currently have the older 49" Samsung Neo G9 before they put out the OLED, and I'm currently debating between waiting for the 57" SUW to come out in OLED, getting the 49" OLED SUW, or getting a 39-45" regular Ultrawide OLED for gaming & then getting the 57" Mini-LED for everything else. I prefer curves, I've had this monitor for years now & I definitely don't think I could go back to 16 by 9. Even going to 21 by 9 for a gaming monitor would be sub-optimal, but I also think getting a super ultrawide OLED just for games is crazy talk unless it's a newly released 57" version.
I was contemplating between Asus M and P for a long time, but then decided for P due to matt surfcae. Asus was the clear choise because of the adjustable sRGB. Over the years I have found that my eyes work with sRGB mode only.
2:53 I wish Tim mentioned the MSI 312UPX as it's reasonably priced in Australia, less than the AW3225QF for $1759 at JBHIFI. It's literally almost the same as the URX, just with "less premium" looking back, 15w USB-C and no USB-A ports. It also does firmware updates with the latest shipment.
It's a non issue for me. VRR flicker only happens in menus if devs don't care about the frame pacing there. If you check RTSS while in main menu in RDR2, for example, the frame pacing is all over the place, hence the VRR flicker. During normal use - desktop apps, gaming, etc... it's a non issue.
@@Chasm9 It's not a non-issue for all combinations of monitors, games and players, though. I couldn't use VRR at all in The Last of Us on my LG C1; the flicker added far more annoyance than the minor smoothness benefit from VRR, so I turned it off and played at a fixed 120 Hz with a FPS of about 70-85.
For my gaming PC, I wanted a 144 Hz 4K screen with decent color accuracy, good viewing angles, at least 300 NITS, and a logical menu for a decent price. I chose the Gigabyte M32U for roughly half the price of a 32" OLED. I'm happy with it, and the money I saved could be the difference between a 4070 and a 4080 Super or between a 7700XT and a 7900XTX.
Went with the Dell. 3 year burn-in warranty and 800 USD after coupon code and cashback made my decision to purchase it an easy one. The slight curve took a week to get used to. Wish it wasn’t curved but the curve doesn’t bother me. 😊
Thanks to price point (1100€) here in Czechia I’m torn between Alienware AW3225QF(4k,240hz curve) and TV LG 42”C4(4k,144hz flat). ASUS and MSI models cost 300€+ more.
The conversation about DP 2.1, relative to the fears and general product lifespan associated with OLED. There's no doubt DP 2.1 is an attractive feature, but if 3-5 years of service is the expected lifespan of the product, is DP 2.1 actually future proofing, relative to the user's budget, gpu, etc. I'm waiting to pull the trigger when the 21:9 5k2k WOLEDS are released next year.
In Germany and, from what I've read in other comments, Europe in general, the Alienware model seems to be the only reasonable choice to get. At current prices (917€, usually more around 1000-1050€), you would have to pay over 350€ more to get the 2nd cheapest one.
I personally went with the LG as I was able to stack discounts on their store to get it, a Bluetooth speaker, and a wireless mouse for ~$900 USD before tax which poses a more interesting price comparison than the joke of MSRP
I don’t care for curved monitors but I gave the dell Alienware a try. The curve is SO minimal that I hardly even notice it and I actually quite like it. I have a flat LG 32GQ950 right next to it. You would think having a flat panel next to it would call the curve out even more. Nope. The dell has Dolby Vision, superb color accuracy. Glossy. QD OLED panel. I love it. I just didn’t think the Asus was worth $300+ tax more.
The Samsung model can be had cheap in Australia at the moment, although I decided against a (near impulse) purchase because of the bad software interface and the lack of USB-C/KVM... I'll stick with my X34 for a while longer.
Excellent videos as always. I've been trying to figure out which monitor to get as I was on the market for a 4k high refresh monitor, preferably with decent HDR. I was thinking of risking burn in, because I also work on the monitor, but then I saw an offer for the Samsung Neo G7. I snagged it for 580-590$. I got it from a good store, with good return policy, in case it had problems or I did not like the curve. The curve was a bit wack for the first few days, but then I fully got adjusted to it. Really happy with it's performance and it's HDR so far.
I'll stick with my wall mounted Hisense 120hz 4K 55U8G $700 with the mounting kit. Maybe an OLED has a "better" picture, but with no way to in person compare, if I'm missing out, I'll never know. Rather like using my EVGA 1080Ti FTW3....no RT, no DLSS and did not miss either "feature" using my 55U8G TV.
I would be interested if you make a video about which Mini LED monitor you would buy, considering they're cheaper than OLED monitors (aside from the BenQ you reviewed and which you don't advise on this one).
I decided for the LG 27gs95qe.. I dont need the 4k resolution on a 27inch, my 3080ti can make some use of the 240hz... It's at least pretty bright and can be used in the day. I've owned like 7 240hz monitors and I still drive the Acer 390hz but honestly there wasn't much in it. I think the improved low input lag and the crispy motion will do it for me... Let's see though might have to try the 360hz QD-Oleds but yeah it's coming today, excited!!
At the moment i'm using a 42" LG C2 OLED as my main monitor. It's served me well over the past 2 years but after trying out the Gigabyte FO32U2P on my secondary PC, i'd really like something like that to replace my C2 OLED with on my main rig. My ideal upgrade spec would be a 42" QD-OLED or WOLED that runs at 4K 240hz and includes an eARC socket for audio passthrough and DP 2.1 80Gbps so its futureproof for when the new GPU generation comes out in a couple of months.
I appreciate how you break them down by price. Truth is that some of these are 30% more expensive than others and shouldnt be. We need to stop expecting expensive to be the best
Just bought the 1440p mpg 271qrx No regrets whatsoever. See me in 10yrs when it’s time to get another one. Or…when prices are sensible, video cards are not ripoff’s, and 4k is standard in 27inch sizes also.
After actually buying a curved monitor I love it for my main monitor and don't plan to ever go back to flat. I am also a content creator and make renderings, Photoshop and video edit.
I went with Asus XG27AQDM when I built my newest system. I want the newest Alienware, but my local Microcenter didn't stock it. It is night and day coming from 1080p 240hz TN or IPS.
I went for the Samsung G80SD, very happy with it. It's basically the same as the Asus ROG when it comes to the important aspects, but in Vietnam it's almost 500USD cheaper than the Asus, MSI, and GIgabyte! So the samsung was an absolute no brainer. Maybe Samsung makes them in Vietnam.
Do you think samsung covers burn-in? I recently got mine, and even though I love how it looks and performs but I haven't got a clear answer on burn-in warranty.
there will be a day where someone cut together an 12h asmr of him saying monitor ID's
Nows your chance, screen capture all his monitor videos and just have him say all the id's. Ez.
Damn I sleep to some of these videos 😂 especially when its a category I dont care much about but i wanna watch to support xD
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@@Souneed Same, i put on my headphones and lie down on my bed and fall into a blissful slumber. It's like magic
I’ll cut the ‘O(a)led’ asmr’s 😂
In Germany the AW3225QF goes for 900 €. All other models between 1.350 € and 1.500 €. For me it's therefore the Alienware unless are absolutely do not want curved.
The cheapest flat one actually being the DP 1.4 version of the Gigabyte one FO32U2 at 1.080 €.
I was just looking at the 34" ultrawides, and gigabyte are the cheapest by 130€, but also DP 1.4. Makes me a bit hesitant knowing their general quality is low.
@@MyrKnof dp 1.4 is easily enough
Bis 13.09. gibt es sogar noch 20% Chasback bei Dell über Shoop. Also für 768€ zu haben
In here the alienware one costs 1466€ 😭 I would definitely buy it if it was 900 €
same in the UK - just went for the AW in the end
It is worth noting that the glossy anti reflection coating is extremely fragile. Just using the wrong fabric to clean them will put scratches on it.
Moving my monitor on its arm and accidentally touching the plastic surface of my desk lamp was enough to put marks on it.
Those marks are not deep scratches as the surface is intact so not visible when pixels are lit, or when in the dark. But it's the AR coating that is removed at these spots and it's visible when there are reflections.
The semi matte plastic finish on LG side is a lot more durable.
@@PoRRasturvaT don't take my advice but look into using a pencil eraser or Vaseline to remove small scratches it works on older monitors without the glossy coating.
On what models?
Rough getting smoother vs smooth getting rough. It's perception of durability
These are the kind of insights I need!
Even though none of these products are designed to have them scratched, knowing something like this may sway the choice from one monitor to another.
Considering that all of these monitors are so similar, especially if we're not comparing between panel technologies.
ok now the big question: How to safely remove it entirely? 😀
I dont even want that AR Layer
I went for AW3225QF. I replaced my AW3423DWF with it because watching UA-cam on it wasn't good. I have no regrets. Recommend this monitor to anyone who is considering 4K OLED. It was also the cheapest one here in Slovakia - 1050eur.
Hey there, forgive me for being nosy but I have the same model, have you been able to get Gsync working through the HDMI 2.1 port ??? I can only get it to work through the display port
@@Kapono5150 What’s the reason that you want to use HDMI 2.1? You’ll still need DSC anyway. Also I’m not sure if all monitors support HDMI forum VRR.
@@Kapono5150 Unless you’re playing at 120 Hz I guess. Then HDMI 2.1 will be well enough even with 10 bit color depth.
Same, I made the same upgrade. Couldn't be more than happier with the Alienware.
@@Simon_Denmark HDMI allows for 12BPC, DP is limited to 10BPC
1440p version of this video PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE!
Love my 321URX. Fits the bill perfectly.
Yeah, it's been a great experience so far. Great panel.
Same. It was the least expensive option for me. And all of them were priced so close that I basically picked MSI because it was available in the closest store and I like the flat stand lol.
Still waiting for the „What 4k *LCD* Monitor would I personally buy?“ video.
I do mostly productive work, so no OLED because of burn-in, but I still want decent HDR for movies and „good enough“ latency for occasional games. A built-in docking station is also nice to have.
Yes, exactly!
I don’t get the gaming/media argument either. 90% of my playtime is on a couple of games. The HUDs would definitely get burned-in as well.
@@elegant-sloth The pixel shift should prevent it
Odyssey Neo g8 4k 240hz va.
burn in usually that isnt an issue with the prevention features on. choosing to not go oled JUST because of burn in is the wrong choice
Best Buy had the Samsung G80SD for under $750 USD open-box. Mine's arriving today, hopefully you all can test it soon, especially since it has a different coating than the other QD-OLED variants!
I just recieved mine 2 days ago. It's crazy how crisp 4k OLEDs can get. Hoping for a full review from these guys soon.
Just got mine a few days ago, it is absolutely stunning!
It's the best one on the market, much nicer colours than the Alienware one
@@ast534 I looked at the review from ratings and it is now consider the "best" 4k oled, so that makes sense!
It's been available here in Australia for months now.. not sure why Tim is ignoring this monitor and everyone asking to include it.
Went with the Asus PG32UCDM and I love it! Amazing 4k monitor. By far the most I have ever spent on a monitor, but man what a difference. Not for everyone, but worth it to me.
i dont care about OLED, i want mini LED 4K 32" 240hz (flat). much higher brightness so HDR looks actually good, and no need to worry about burn in
Another monitor which you can add to this list, is the Samsung Odessey G8 OLED G80SD.
Its also the cheapest model in Australia and can be had for as low as 1200-1300 AUD when its on sale with a coupon or 2.
I ordered and tomorow is coming Samsung Oled G80sd
@@Horned26 I got mine today, its a nice monitor but the software Samsung put on its a PITA. Who wants to register for a samsung account just to use a monitor.
Hopefully there will be a video thoroughly contemplating the best 4k mini-LED alternatives available. Burn-in-guarantees aside, many users would prefer not to bother with this to beging with. And then there´s the price difference to OLED. Plus, OLED would be for gaming only. Mini-LED is cheaper and more versatile, without having to deal with the downsides o low contrast IPS.
All the mini LED monitors I’ve ever used not made by apple have been awful. And I don’t say that as an apple fanboy or anything, just someone who’s seen a lot of different monitors
LG C2/3/4 42" OLED 4k 120hz.
Best used in a dark room and without direct sunlight on it.
42" is actually a good size for immersion and the price can be quite low with discounts. And since it is a TV discounts happen frequently.
I burned my eyes playing Death Stranding on a 65-inch G2 with maximum brightness for two months in a dark room. I'll never do that again.
Thanks for Aussie prices inclusion!
The Dell is often down around $1400 AUD…. which makes it hard to ignore unless you really gripe the curve. The other one in the similar price ballpark is the new Samsung G8 - flat but semi matte.
Having never used a curved monitor I was worried about this but having owned the Alienware for a couple of months now I can honestly say I don't really notice.
@@wayn3hsame. My brain just tunes it out.
@@wayn3hyeh and I can’t see how USB C and KVM are really worth an extra $700…..
I finally found one at JB and the curve is so mild that I forgot about it even after a few seconds. Also you can get a refurbished one with full warranty for about $1200.
Because of your and others testing I got the ASUS PG32UCDM about a month ago. I really enjoy it (use it for 50/50 productity/gaming or media). Ive got a nice deal (1100 EUR) so it was worth it. Switched from 4k 60hz LCD and the difference is huge; couldnt imagine going back and finally the 4090 can show its true potential (if only I had the time to actually game lol...). BUT: Thanks for your deepdives. It really helps deciding!
Personally, I'm hanging out for MicroLED to become a thing before I switch from LCD. Because fuck having a monitor that will burn-in.
Despite trade-offs with OLEDs, I definitely couldn't stay on LCDs until the early 2030's myself. I wish MicroLED tech was closer to real consumer release, but we're unfortunately a long way off.
@40Sec we will be lucky if we get one's below 5 grand before 2040. Manufacturing them is turning out to be absurdly difficult and progressing a lot slower than hoped
It might not be possible to wait that long. Whatever monitor you have today won't last till microLED monitors are available. Maybe,, just maybe you'll be able to get one in a TV size before the decade is out.
@@Uncle_Fred What do you mean when you say it won't last that long?
There are plenty of LCDs from back when LCDs were a new technology that still work. The reason people aren't still using them in most cases is because they replaced them with better ones, not because they died.
@@Knowbody42 I think the rule of thumb is 30k-60k hours, or about 10-20 years with eight hours per day usage. It's really good to be sure, but MicroLED monitors seem to be about that far away. So add whatever number of years your current monitor is ontop of that.
I think most monitors are likely to be destroyed by accidents beofr they die.
Surprisingly I found the LG 32 4k to be my favorite among a couple I tried. It has the best stand ergonomics. It’s got truly black blacks in the day, not purple tint. It has no text color fringing and good enough clarity. The matte coating is not “as” matte as other matte screens. It’s got simple controls. It’s not invasive about screen refresh. I got it on sale too.
Just purchased the LG C4. Absolutely love it. Went from a 27”. Huge difference for my flight simulator.
This is where I think most folks should go ... it makes the most sense unless one is a competitive gamer ... which (let's be honest) most of us are not.
Then just have an LCD on a monitor arm for non-gaming / media stuffs. :)
i can use a 37" TV as a monitor, but 43" is too large, too bad there are no 37" TVs out there
@@eliotcole it makes sense unless ur on a PC. buying a tv for PC use is literally unusable lol....
@@Snxgur Nah ... I'm talking about PC.
Normal people are not all running 4090s ( _maybe the steam survey will prove that wrong_ ), and pushing more than 120fps/hz for HDR Ray Traced blah.
Normal people are going to struggle to even hit 120fps most of the time ... unless they're reducing quality ... and ... again ... you're only really going to want to do that if your competitive gaming ... right?
Otherwise it's all horrendously expensive, and largely pointless ... especially because you can only use it for one thing.
@@Snxguruneducated comment of the day
I love my AW3225QF. The curve is NICE IMO. Never thought I would think that but I do now. I recommend this to ANYONE looking for a HIGH end monitor.
In Australia I regularly see it go on sale from $1900 to $1400. The cheapest I've seen any of the others is the MSI dropping to $1800. It's an insane price difference for an incredible monitor.
The Alienware frequently goes on sale here in Australia for around au$1500
I'd still like to know about the samsung G80SD and G60SD
i have the G60SD for a month , overall a fantastic monitor and the matte coating isn't that heavy at all
Matte throw it out
I had G60SD. You can't turn pixel shift off and it's fairly fast by default :/. There is no option(but maybe they'll add it in an update?). The back gets really hot at the center. So hot, in fact, that if you sit fairly close, you'll feel that warmth as the back gets to 55C in under 2 hours(at 26C ambient). The frame is uneven(bigger chin). And the extra pixels on the sides make it even worse when browsing. But it's fine during gaming. There is no 'wow' effect going from 240Hz to 360Hz regarding perceived fluidity. You'll need 480Hz instead to see it. Ports on the back are easily accessible and it's a breeze to set it up for VESA monitor arms. The back looks neutral which is nice. The led ring on the back is not intrusive and can be switched off. I had some weird vertical lines in games during motion when brightness was set to lowest(my preference) during grey and dark scenes which seem to disappear when you turn up the brightness(so a non-issue for most people). Not sure what's up with that. Text clarity is decent. "Dirty grey" effect is noticeable but not as bad as 2nd generation. Oh and regarding the matte coating of the G60SD - it's alright BUT it being the QD-OLED you need a fairly dim room to not see the raised blacks(and you'll unfortunately see the loss of contrast). At least they're not getting as purple as on last generation lol
Not available in Australia yet…
@@tacklenutfishing2339 I'm pretty sure it is.
If you're in the US, Costco has a deal on the 48-in LG c4 OLED for $700 innstore
Does it show online? Online says 1.2k.
@@Slambear nope. in store only
@@Slambear you can use online to see if it's in stock at your store, but I think you need to be in store to see the discount
That’s a TV
@@rrahma114 I’ll check in person, thanks
I appreciate these kind of videos a ton
Now do the same thing for 1440 oled monitors. Thank you!
Very helpful. Pulling the trigger soon so it boils down to availability in my area and your recommendations, Tim. Thank you for this.
My suggestion, If you waited already till now, then at least wait for January where the next Gen oled monitors are going to be presented❤
I find it funny that new models are announced in CES but majority people buy in nov/Dec during holiday seasons. This always leads people buying hardware that will be "best" for just few months only to be replaced by a "better" tech.
4k 480hz oled
@@pretentious_a_ness Maybe for US buyers since it's easy to get a good deal, but especially here the difference between an AW and an Aorus for example is like $600. 2nd Gen QD-OLED are good enough that I'd jump on a good deal rather than have the best tech and spend an extra $1000
@@pretentious_a_ness I think once there are 4k 480hz oled monitors it'll be game over
@@pretentious_a_ness because prices are WAY cheaper christmas and the new models aren't much better
I recently bought an Aorus FO32U2P. The Display Port 2.1 support was the dealmaker. I used my last monitor (Samsung U28E850D) for eight years, and I expect this one to last for a similarly long time. And even though current graphic cards don't support DP 2.1, future ones will.
Lol I had the same Samsung monitor!! I went with the Asus pg32ucdm what an upgrade..
This is good news since I just bought the MSI. One benefit of the MSI is also internal psu. Fewer bricks in my setup is nice. The MSI also supports more power through the USB-C (90 vs 65w on GB)
JB Hifi had the Alienware AW3225QF on sale for a very short time at $1511
Suffice to say I bought 2 of them. One for me and one for my daughter 😂
I cannot fault it. The modest curve doesn’t bother me at all. It’s my first curved monitor. I game 97% on my PC so it’s completely fine.
I will say I had concerns about getting a gloss monitor as I’d never had one before and all reviews say how bad reflections and natural light are on them but again I cannot complain about this monitor. It handles them very well. I game mostly at night through the week but during the day on weekends at times. Not a problem.
I appreciate all of the reviews you have done making the very tough decision on 32” 4k QD Oleds much easier.
I agree the Gigabyte is a winner here in Australia but at $1500 I could not miss the opportunity.
Cheers
BTW this monitor is $1889.80 on Dell’s website. Has been for awhile…
I must also say, no burn in at all after 6 months. I have the power settings at 5 minutes, taskbar and desktop shortcuts are hidden. I have had the same static wallpaper the entire time.
No issues. I think they’re better than most people think. 👌🏼
42" LG OLED TVs are still the best bang for the buck you can get as a PC monitor. They require a little more configuration than a dedicated PC monitor but you end up with, typically, a much better result. Applications like LG TV Companion and ColorControl can give you that monitor like experience PC users are accustomed to while getting all the extra flexibility and control you get with a large format television.
My thoughts exactly. These current line of oled monitors are by and large just not bright enough for hdr use in mid to high apl scenes for the asking price.
Not everybody has enough space to use a fricking TV as a monitor.
I used it for a month, but couldn't stand using a 42 inch tv as a monitor. I returned it.
The only reason I'm keeping my 42" C2 which I've been using for a year after switching from a 48" model is because it serves as a monitor and TV in my small apartment and, of course, because it was way cheaper than these monitors. But I would much rather use a 32" display as my main monitor. Watching movies on that would be a worse experience though. I honestly don't know how to solve this since I like having my desk and TV in the same space and I hate having expensive gear sitting around doing nothing most of the time which would be the result of buying both a monitor and TV.
@@agiverreviga4592 like i said in my comment (with detailed measurements) it requires less space than you might think. But I am not saying people should buy a new desk just to use a 42" monitor. If you have the room, it's a great, and in my mind, the best option.
Awesome video! Please do this periodically!
Picked up a FO32U2P last april and with 750 hours of use, couldn't be happier with my upgrade from my old 1080p 60hz monitor.
this is the 2nd time in the past week where I am looking for as much good info about something i am about to buy and you or Steve release a video with the exact title for it
PG32UCDM owner here, and I can confidently say, all of these models are spectacular. It doesn’t matter which panel you buy. Get whatever you can afford!
Nothing beats the 42in LG C4. 144hz 4k QOLED. Has controller to change all settings and has GSync and freesync. And it’s bright and fantastic HDR. These 32in monitors are over priced as hell.
Awesome job Tim on OLED monitor choice 🙏💪
Alienware AW3225QF glossy finish 👌
Here in Holland the first affordable 4K 32 inch OLED is the AOC Agon Pro AG326UD. It should be releasing near the end of September for € 849. The MSI monitors which are cheaper in the USA are the same price as the top tier brands such as LG and Samsung. I have no experience with AOC but I think it would be worth a gamble to see if it can match the MSI MAG 321UP which would be its direct competitor since it's also a 165hz monitor.
I’m in the US and got the MSI 321URX a few weeks ago and it’s been fantastic and such a joy to use for gaming, editing, and productivity. Although I really wanted dual mode I couldn’t justify the premium when I’m mainly a single player/code/warzone gamer, and even with my 4090 and 14900K you can barely get above 300 consistently on resurgence and big map can’t get above 300 unless you have crazy optimization. I’m glad MSI came in at their price point and made the panel basically as good as the rest
I'm really looking forward to 27" version of these OLED monitors. 32" just becomes a small TV in my eyes and I'd be interested to see if the pixel density makes a difference in clarity. I'd rather have a smaller, clearer monitor closer to my eyes than a larger one further away, being nearsighted and all.
Prices in my country:
ASUS PG32UCDM: 1500 €
MSI MPG 321URX: 1400 €
Dell AW3225FQ: 1000 €
LG 32GS95UE: 1300 €
ASUS PG32UCDP: 1800 €
Gigabyte FO32U2P: 1300 €
Samsung G8 G80SD: 1000 €.
So, if you want it cheap and don't want a curved screen, the Samsung might be your deal.
With DSC Nvidia turns off DSR and DLDSR. Also you cannot use more than two displays if any need DSC.
I am waiting for the 48 inch ones with 240 hz . Would be the best for my setup.
There is no GPU even remotely on the horizon that can run 4k 48inch at 240hz.
@@Sly_404 Such a stupid argument, you don't need to always run at 240hz
@@Sly_404 you are just an ...
@@Sly_404 There are plenty of titles that can run at 240fps. A lot of people these days play one older game and that's all their interested in.
People waiting for 4k 360hz+ forget that there are only handful of games (more like competitive fps games such as overwatch and CS) that can reach such high fps in 4k. 4k 240hz is as practical as you can get.
Just bought the lg c4 42, mostly play single player games so I don't really need something more than 144hz and got a pretty good deal.
Thank you for the reviw. I got Samsung neo G8, which is a miniLED and I love it:32", high brightness, HDR, 4K, 240 refresh rate, the best monitor I ever had
This is a super helpfull video. All of your reviews are great but only with one huge "flaw", and that is the price, it's super hard to know if the same recommendation would be applied in my country with the prices here. This video solves that issue, while also having all of the most recommended monitors in it. Thank you!
Glad you specified why the Dual-Modes aren't for you specifically. As someone who plays a lot of competitive FPS games as well as single-player games, Dual-Mode is a dream, otherwise I'd need 2 monitors.
LG c4 is the way to go for most people I think, if you're mainly wanting to play newer games in 4k it ticks most boxes and looks fantastic! If you need more than 120/144hz for competitive gaming then you aren't playing in 4k anyway... if you want cinematic 4k with potential for good frames if your gpu is up to it the 42 inch LG is a no brainer at less than all of these 32 in monitors. I got mine for $1600 AUD a few months ago and I imagine black friday sales should see them go lower than that😊
Which one addresses the problem of sub-pixel layout when it comes to text?
I have FO32U2P over 2200 hours on it, 0 issues.
I went with the Gigabyte Aorus FO32U2P, partly due to DisplayPort 2.1, but mostly because it was the only one I could actually get.
Initially I considered the MSI or the Asus QD-OLEDs, but they were never available and almost always had long estimated dates for delivery.
Apart from 2 issues that luckily has been fixed with firmware updates, the screen occasionally going black in HDR and the EDID being wrong for RTX HDR, I have been happy with the Aorus.
Literally came to this channel and looked for this video yesterday. Great timing still 🤣
could you do the best ips?
Any plans/likelihood of getting the Samsung 57" Super Ultrawide Mini-LED display for review? I would love to see your thoughts on it, seems like it would be an absolute beast for productivity, and for gaming especially in sim racers, it would be insane... it is a Dual-4K-sized monitor though, so pushing frames would be a serious challenge.
I currently have the older 49" Samsung Neo G9 before they put out the OLED, and I'm currently debating between waiting for the 57" SUW to come out in OLED, getting the 49" OLED SUW, or getting a 39-45" regular Ultrawide OLED for gaming & then getting the 57" Mini-LED for everything else.
I prefer curves, I've had this monitor for years now & I definitely don't think I could go back to 16 by 9. Even going to 21 by 9 for a gaming monitor would be sub-optimal, but I also think getting a super ultrawide OLED just for games is crazy talk unless it's a newly released 57" version.
I was contemplating between Asus M and P for a long time, but then decided for P due to matt surfcae. Asus was the clear choise because of the adjustable sRGB. Over the years I have found that my eyes work with sRGB mode only.
Great video Tim, thanks!!
2:53 I wish Tim mentioned the MSI 312UPX as it's reasonably priced in Australia, less than the AW3225QF for $1759 at JBHIFI. It's literally almost the same as the URX, just with "less premium" looking back, 15w USB-C and no USB-A ports. It also does firmware updates with the latest shipment.
It's such a shame I really really love that 480hz mode, even if it makes my choice way easier. Torn between rebuying the 32" LG monitor at
Please do a 1440p version of this.
I'm having the worst time right now, trying to decide which one's actually worth the money long term.
I would prefer if you mention VRR flicker issues more often :(
It's a non issue for me. VRR flicker only happens in menus if devs don't care about the frame pacing there. If you check RTSS while in main menu in RDR2, for example, the frame pacing is all over the place, hence the VRR flicker. During normal use - desktop apps, gaming, etc... it's a non issue.
@@Chasm9 It's not a non-issue for all combinations of monitors, games and players, though. I couldn't use VRR at all in The Last of Us on my LG C1; the flicker added far more annoyance than the minor smoothness benefit from VRR, so I turned it off and played at a fixed 120 Hz with a FPS of about 70-85.
Ive owned my AW3225QF for 5 months and this is a non issue for me.
Got the PG32UCDM and so far it's only an issue in Cyberpunk2077. But still an issue, where I have to deactivate VRR to play it without flickering.
i go for LG UE, to me hardware calibration availability is a go to. Moreover is Matte, and I prefer, and is WOled and I prefer, and has speaker.
Best but had a AW3225QF open box excellent for $803 so I bought that. Comes in soon!
My PG32UCDP should arrive in the next couple of days. Can’t wait!
For my gaming PC, I wanted a 144 Hz 4K screen with decent color accuracy, good viewing angles, at least 300 NITS, and a logical menu for a decent price. I chose the Gigabyte M32U for roughly half the price of a 32" OLED. I'm happy with it, and the money I saved could be the difference between a 4070 and a 4080 Super or between a 7700XT and a 7900XTX.
Went with the Dell. 3 year burn-in warranty and 800 USD after coupon code and cashback made my decision to purchase it an easy one. The slight curve took a week to get used to. Wish it wasn’t curved but the curve doesn’t bother me. 😊
I'm looking at 27" 360Hz. The Alienware AW2725DF is UK GBP £662 at the moment... all other 27" 360Hz models are £850 plus. UK gets some crazy prices.
Honestly the Samsung Neo QLED, I hope they continue with Neo QLED monitors.
for me I would still pick the FO32U2P because DSC is very annoying when alt tabbing
Really like the channel and the in-depth analysis of monitors. Plz test the Samsung oled g8 (g80SD) if you can get your hands on it
Can you make a video about using 4K TVs as a monitor? I found them to be much better value than actual monitors.
He's done reviews for the old C1 model so yeah way ahead of you there. I think it was before monitors unboxed was even a thing ;)
Rtings is the place to go for those reviews. I use a couple TVs as cheap monitors for productivity.
Thanks to price point (1100€) here in Czechia I’m torn between Alienware AW3225QF(4k,240hz curve) and TV LG 42”C4(4k,144hz flat). ASUS and MSI models cost 300€+ more.
The conversation about DP 2.1, relative to the fears and general product lifespan associated with OLED. There's no doubt DP 2.1 is an attractive feature, but if 3-5 years of service is the expected lifespan of the product, is DP 2.1 actually future proofing, relative to the user's budget, gpu, etc. I'm waiting to pull the trigger when the 21:9 5k2k WOLEDS are released next year.
Some of these monitors have fans which gets noisier over time
Heatsink is better ?
Heatsink is always better if you don't want fans in it. They suck in dust, get dirty and will probably go louder or stop working.
@@Peh84 ty
What is the best monitor for gaming and office use? So I assume non-oled?
In Germany and, from what I've read in other comments, Europe in general, the Alienware model seems to be the only reasonable choice to get. At current prices (917€, usually more around 1000-1050€), you would have to pay over 350€ more to get the 2nd cheapest one.
Can you please do one for 1440p monitors as well?
Bought the Aorus FO32U2 on launch and absolutely love it. Save 150 bucks to sacrifice DP 2.1
I personally went with the LG as I was able to stack discounts on their store to get it, a Bluetooth speaker, and a wireless mouse for ~$900 USD before tax which poses a more interesting price comparison than the joke of MSRP
I don’t care for curved monitors but I gave the dell Alienware a try. The curve is SO minimal that I hardly even notice it and I actually quite like it. I have a flat LG 32GQ950 right next to it. You would think having a flat panel next to it would call the curve out even more. Nope. The dell has Dolby Vision, superb color accuracy. Glossy. QD OLED panel. I love it. I just didn’t think the Asus was worth $300+ tax more.
The Samsung model can be had cheap in Australia at the moment, although I decided against a (near impulse) purchase because of the bad software interface and the lack of USB-C/KVM... I'll stick with my X34 for a while longer.
Excellent videos as always. I've been trying to figure out which monitor to get as I was on the market for a 4k high refresh monitor, preferably with decent HDR. I was thinking of risking burn in, because I also work on the monitor, but then I saw an offer for the Samsung Neo G7. I snagged it for 580-590$. I got it from a good store, with good return policy, in case it had problems or I did not like the curve. The curve was a bit wack for the first few days, but then I fully got adjusted to it. Really happy with it's performance and it's HDR so far.
I'll stick with my wall mounted Hisense 120hz 4K 55U8G $700 with the mounting kit. Maybe an OLED has a "better" picture, but with no way to in person compare, if I'm missing out, I'll never know. Rather like using my EVGA 1080Ti FTW3....no RT, no DLSS and did not miss either "feature" using my 55U8G TV.
I ordered the gigabyte Pro and I found it at 10% off in the US. Can’t wait to check it out!
I would be interested if you make a video about which Mini LED monitor you would buy, considering they're cheaper than OLED monitors (aside from the BenQ you reviewed and which you don't advise on this one).
I still can't get over how much I'd jump for the dual mode, if it was 1440, and not 1080. but 1080 is too much of a sacrifice for someone like me
I decided for the LG 27gs95qe.. I dont need the 4k resolution on a 27inch, my 3080ti can make some use of the 240hz... It's at least pretty bright and can be used in the day. I've owned like 7 240hz monitors and I still drive the Acer 390hz but honestly there wasn't much in it. I think the improved low input lag and the crispy motion will do it for me... Let's see though might have to try the 360hz QD-Oleds but yeah it's coming today, excited!!
Colors on QD-OLED are just so much better
At the moment i'm using a 42" LG C2 OLED as my main monitor. It's served me well over the past 2 years but after trying out the Gigabyte FO32U2P on my secondary PC, i'd really like something like that to replace my C2 OLED with on my main rig. My ideal upgrade spec would be a 42" QD-OLED or WOLED that runs at 4K 240hz and includes an eARC socket for audio passthrough and DP 2.1 80Gbps so its futureproof for when the new GPU generation comes out in a couple of months.
42 C2 still doing good 👍🏼
UK Amazon wise, the Dell option is < £900 while the others are 1.3 to 1.4. Isn't even close, honestly.
Here in Italy the Dell Alienware AW3225QF is a bit over €1000 , while all others are between €1300 and €1450
I appreciate how you break them down by price. Truth is that some of these are 30% more expensive than others and shouldnt be. We need to stop expecting expensive to be the best
Just bought the 1440p mpg 271qrx No regrets whatsoever. See me in 10yrs when it’s time to get another one. Or…when prices are sensible, video cards are not ripoff’s, and 4k is standard in 27inch sizes also.
After actually buying a curved monitor I love it for my main monitor and don't plan to ever go back to flat. I am also a content creator and make renderings, Photoshop and video edit.
Waiting on the 38 inch Ultrawide 5120x2160 QD OLED models to finally arrive... this is the true holy grail of gaming monitors. 💯
Can plans to do a 1440p and a widescreen version of this?
I went with Asus XG27AQDM when I built my newest system. I want the newest Alienware, but my local Microcenter didn't stock it. It is night and day coming from 1080p 240hz TN or IPS.
I went for the Samsung G80SD, very happy with it. It's basically the same as the Asus ROG when it comes to the important aspects, but in Vietnam it's almost 500USD cheaper than the Asus, MSI, and GIgabyte! So the samsung was an absolute no brainer. Maybe Samsung makes them in Vietnam.
Do you think samsung covers burn-in? I recently got mine, and even though I love how it looks and performs but I haven't got a clear answer on burn-in warranty.
@@ShredderXGaming yuh i fucking hate how ambiguous they are with it. Some say its chill others say no, so stupid
@@ShredderXGaming It varies from region to region, there is no global warranty.
For me the Asus pg32ucdp is the best in gaming, it's fantastic and in competitive mode you can definitely notice the difference