In Germany the AW3225QF goes for 900 €. All other models between 1.350 € and 1.500 €. For me it's therefore the Alienware unless are absolutely do not want curved. The cheapest flat one actually being the DP 1.4 version of the Gigabyte one FO32U2 at 1.080 €.
I was just looking at the 34" ultrawides, and gigabyte are the cheapest by 130€, but also DP 1.4. Makes me a bit hesitant knowing their general quality is low.
It is worth noting that the glossy anti reflection coating is extremely fragile. Just using the wrong fabric to clean them will put scratches on it. Moving my monitor on its arm and accidentally touching the plastic surface of my desk lamp was enough to put marks on it. Those marks are not deep scratches as the surface is intact so not visible when pixels are lit, or when in the dark. But it's the AR coating that is removed at these spots and it's visible when there are reflections. The semi matte plastic finish on LG side is a lot more durable.
@@PoRRasturvaT don't take my advice but look into using a pencil eraser or Vaseline to remove small scratches it works on older monitors without the glossy coating.
These are the kind of insights I need! Even though none of these products are designed to have them scratched, knowing something like this may sway the choice from one monitor to another. Considering that all of these monitors are so similar, especially if we're not comparing between panel technologies.
I went for AW3225QF. I replaced my AW3423DWF with it because watching UA-cam on it wasn't good. I have no regrets. Recommend this monitor to anyone who is considering 4K OLED. It was also the cheapest one here in Slovakia - 1050eur.
Hey there, forgive me for being nosy but I have the same model, have you been able to get Gsync working through the HDMI 2.1 port ??? I can only get it to work through the display port
Best Buy had the Samsung G80SD for under $750 USD open-box. Mine's arriving today, hopefully you all can test it soon, especially since it has a different coating than the other QD-OLED variants!
LG C2/3/4 42" OLED 4k 120hz. Best used in a dark room and without direct sunlight on it. 42" is actually a good size for immersion and the price can be quite low with discounts. And since it is a TV discounts happen frequently.
I burned my eyes while playing Death Stranding on a 65-inch G2 TV with the brightness set to maximum for two months in a dark room. I will never do that again.
I’m in the US and got the MSI 321URX a few weeks ago and it’s been fantastic and such a joy to use for gaming, editing, and productivity. Although I really wanted dual mode I couldn’t justify the premium when I’m mainly a single player/code/warzone gamer, and even with my 4090 and 14900K you can barely get above 300 consistently on resurgence and big map can’t get above 300 unless you have crazy optimization. I’m glad MSI came in at their price point and made the panel basically as good as the rest
Because of your and others testing I got the ASUS PG32UCDM about a month ago. I really enjoy it (use it for 50/50 productity/gaming or media). Ive got a nice deal (1100 EUR) so it was worth it. Switched from 4k 60hz LCD and the difference is huge; couldnt imagine going back and finally the 4090 can show its true potential (if only I had the time to actually game lol...). BUT: Thanks for your deepdives. It really helps deciding!
Went with the Asus PG32UCDM and I love it! Amazing 4k monitor. By far the most I have ever spent on a monitor, but man what a difference. Not for everyone, but worth it to me.
This is where I think most folks should go ... it makes the most sense unless one is a competitive gamer ... which (let's be honest) most of us are not. Then just have an LCD on a monitor arm for non-gaming / media stuffs. :)
@@Snxgur Nah ... I'm talking about PC. Normal people are not all running 4090s ( _maybe the steam survey will prove that wrong_ ), and pushing more than 120fps/hz for HDR Ray Traced blah. Normal people are going to struggle to even hit 120fps most of the time ... unless they're reducing quality ... and ... again ... you're only really going to want to do that if your competitive gaming ... right? Otherwise it's all horrendously expensive, and largely pointless ... especially because you can only use it for one thing.
@@eliotcole how am i gonna use a massive TV sceeen on a computer desk dude? how far away would i need to sit , so impractical and horrible for anything other then gaming . how am i meant to work and be productive on a TV?
I had G60SD. You can't turn pixel shift off and it's fairly fast by default :/. There is no option(but maybe they'll add it in an update?). The back gets really hot at the center. So hot, in fact, that if you sit fairly close, you'll feel that warmth as the back gets to 55C in under 2 hours(at 26C ambient). The frame is uneven(bigger chin). And the extra pixels on the sides make it even worse when browsing. But it's fine during gaming. There is no 'wow' effect going from 240Hz to 360Hz regarding perceived fluidity. You'll need 480Hz instead to see it. Ports on the back are easily accessible and it's a breeze to set it up for VESA monitor arms. The back looks neutral which is nice. The led ring on the back is not intrusive and can be switched off. I had some weird vertical lines in games during motion when brightness was set to lowest(my preference) during grey and dark scenes which seem to disappear when you turn up the brightness(so a non-issue for most people). Not sure what's up with that. Text clarity is decent. "Dirty grey" effect is noticeable but not as bad as 2nd generation. Oh and regarding the matte coating of the G60SD - it's alright BUT it being the QD-OLED you need a fairly dim room to not see the raised blacks(and you'll unfortunately see the loss of contrast). At least they're not getting as purple as on last generation lol
Thanks for Aussie prices inclusion! The Dell is often down around $1400 AUD…. which makes it hard to ignore unless you really gripe the curve. The other one in the similar price ballpark is the new Samsung G8 - flat but semi matte.
Having never used a curved monitor I was worried about this but having owned the Alienware for a couple of months now I can honestly say I don't really notice.
I finally found one at JB and the curve is so mild that I forgot about it even after a few seconds. Also you can get a refurbished one with full warranty for about $1200.
Surprisingly I found the LG 32 4k to be my favorite among a couple I tried. It has the best stand ergonomics. It’s got truly black blacks in the day, not purple tint. It has no text color fringing and good enough clarity. The matte coating is not “as” matte as other matte screens. It’s got simple controls. It’s not invasive about screen refresh. I got it on sale too.
In Australia I regularly see it go on sale from $1900 to $1400. The cheapest I've seen any of the others is the MSI dropping to $1800. It's an insane price difference for an incredible monitor.
glad I got the PG32UCDM. glossy its way better colours . also if you dont mind natural imperfections then its def for u as far as scanlines mame and that sort of thing when it comes to modern gaming then once again its the best. plenty bright enough.
Glad you specified why the Dual-Modes aren't for you specifically. As someone who plays a lot of competitive FPS games as well as single-player games, Dual-Mode is a dream, otherwise I'd need 2 monitors.
Still waiting for the „What 4k *LCD* Monitor would I personally buy?“ video. I do mostly productive work, so no OLED because of burn-in, but I still want decent HDR for movies and „good enough“ latency for occasional games. A built-in docking station is also nice to have.
Same. It was the least expensive option for me. And all of them were priced so close that I basically picked MSI because it was available in the closest store and I like the flat stand lol.
I recently bought an Aorus FO32U2P. The Display Port 2.1 support was the dealmaker. I used my last monitor (Samsung U28E850D) for eight years, and I expect this one to last for a similarly long time. And even though current graphic cards don't support DP 2.1, future ones will.
JB Hifi had the Alienware AW3225QF on sale for a very short time at $1511 Suffice to say I bought 2 of them. One for me and one for my daughter 😂 I cannot fault it. The modest curve doesn’t bother me at all. It’s my first curved monitor. I game 97% on my PC so it’s completely fine. I will say I had concerns about getting a gloss monitor as I’d never had one before and all reviews say how bad reflections and natural light are on them but again I cannot complain about this monitor. It handles them very well. I game mostly at night through the week but during the day on weekends at times. Not a problem. I appreciate all of the reviews you have done making the very tough decision on 32” 4k QD Oleds much easier. I agree the Gigabyte is a winner here in Australia but at $1500 I could not miss the opportunity. Cheers BTW this monitor is $1889.80 on Dell’s website. Has been for awhile… I must also say, no burn in at all after 6 months. I have the power settings at 5 minutes, taskbar and desktop shortcuts are hidden. I have had the same static wallpaper the entire time. No issues. I think they’re better than most people think. 👌🏼
I watched all your reviews for the 4k oleds and this one here was so helpful to know which one I want to buy. Since we have the aw3225qf at 900-1000€ in Germany and most of the others are about 30% more expensive this is quite a no brainer for me now. Thanks a lot for your content :)
this is the 2nd time in the past week where I am looking for as much good info about something i am about to buy and you or Steve release a video with the exact title for it
This is good news since I just bought the MSI. One benefit of the MSI is also internal psu. Fewer bricks in my setup is nice. The MSI also supports more power through the USB-C (90 vs 65w on GB)
Upgraded last month to Alienware 4k oled from Lg Ultragear 1440p, both 32inch, the difference is quite shocking. Once you go Oled, there is no going back.
Thank you for the reviw. I got Samsung neo G8, which is a miniLED and I love it:32", high brightness, HDR, 4K, 240 refresh rate, the best monitor I ever had
@@Horned26 I got mine today, its a nice monitor but the software Samsung put on its a PITA. Who wants to register for a samsung account just to use a monitor.
I find it funny that new models are announced in CES but majority people buy in nov/Dec during holiday seasons. This always leads people buying hardware that will be "best" for just few months only to be replaced by a "better" tech.
@@pretentious_a_ness Maybe for US buyers since it's easy to get a good deal, but especially here the difference between an AW and an Aorus for example is like $600. 2nd Gen QD-OLED are good enough that I'd jump on a good deal rather than have the best tech and spend an extra $1000
I never really cared about monitors much. For so long I was a poor student so everything was about maximizing every cent in terms of performance, so a fancy monitor was never even something I thought about. Somehow I've not seen an OLED screen until yesterday, and holy shit they really are bloody nice, aren't they?!? The colour is just so damn coloury!
I personally went with the LG as I was able to stack discounts on their store to get it, a Bluetooth speaker, and a wireless mouse for ~$900 USD before tax which poses a more interesting price comparison than the joke of MSRP
This is a super helpfull video. All of your reviews are great but only with one huge "flaw", and that is the price, it's super hard to know if the same recommendation would be applied in my country with the prices here. This video solves that issue, while also having all of the most recommended monitors in it. Thank you!
After getting a Switch OLED, I feel that itch for an OLED 4k monitor to pair with my 4k LCD monitors. This video is real helpful, especially as I wait for prices to drop considerably as the technology gets cheaper and more reliable.
What I like and want... 1. 4k oled 2. 32 inch 3. Gloss 4. 120 hz (anything more is overkill) 5. 650 nits or higher 6. Flat not curved! And preferably no gamer esthetic. I don't need rgb or any kind of lighting, no speakers or any extra bullshit. Just give me raw performance without any extra frills. I don't want my monitor to look over the top. I want my games to look over the top.
It doesn't exist (yet), but I'd love to see an updated larger 48" version of my current LG Flex 42 OLED. My primary use is for Flightsim, so I don't need anything greater than 120Hz. However, OLED is a must, once you've used one it's amazing. The versatility of a flex screen is something that would be very hard to give up. While the size of the LG Flex 42 is nice, their latest gen C4 48" OLED would hit the sweet spot for me. I don't need the built in speakers nor the LED RGB on the back of the Flex 42, so LG could charge less for a version without both. Granted, Flightsim might not be the biggest market for any manufacturer to cater to, but it's growing extremely fast. With the pending release of MSFS2024, the Flightsim hobby will grow to be a huge market.
I grabbed the Asus pg32ucdm as it went on sale for $2300(NZD) in NZ (New Zealand) which in its own right is huge, as it's usually around $3200 or sometimes in the last month $3500.
It's a non issue for me. VRR flicker only happens in menus if devs don't care about the frame pacing there. If you check RTSS while in main menu in RDR2, for example, the frame pacing is all over the place, hence the VRR flicker. During normal use - desktop apps, gaming, etc... it's a non issue.
@@dolan_plz It's not a non-issue for all combinations of monitors, games and players, though. I couldn't use VRR at all in The Last of Us on my LG C1; the flicker added far more annoyance than the minor smoothness benefit from VRR, so I turned it off and played at a fixed 120 Hz with a FPS of about 70-85.
I used flat 32 inch monitor for last 8 years and bought 32 inch 1800R (heavy curve) samsung neo g7 and to be honest after fist shock I was able to switch almost instantly to the new curvature and it doesn`t bother me at all, I actually kinda like it, adds a bit of immersion.
Prices in my country: ASUS PG32UCDM: 1500 € MSI MPG 321URX: 1400 € Dell AW3225FQ: 1000 € LG 32GS95UE: 1300 € ASUS PG32UCDP: 1800 € Gigabyte FO32U2P: 1300 € Samsung G8 G80SD: 1000 €. So, if you want it cheap and don't want a curved screen, the Samsung might be your deal.
I just got the MSI MAG 321UP for a steal during the Prime Days sale, but from Best Buy since I had a coupon to use and a bunch of rewards saved. If you're just playing single player games, this thing is perfect!
For my gaming PC, I wanted a 144 Hz 4K screen with decent color accuracy, good viewing angles, at least 300 NITS, and a logical menu for a decent price. I chose the Gigabyte M32U for roughly half the price of a 32" OLED. I'm happy with it, and the money I saved could be the difference between a 4070 and a 4080 Super or between a 7700XT and a 7900XTX.
Went with the Dell. 3 year burn-in warranty and 800 USD after coupon code and cashback made my decision to purchase it an easy one. The slight curve took a week to get used to. Wish it wasn’t curved but the curve doesn’t bother me. 😊
LG c4 is the way to go for most people I think, if you're mainly wanting to play newer games in 4k it ticks most boxes and looks fantastic! If you need more than 120/144hz for competitive gaming then you aren't playing in 4k anyway... if you want cinematic 4k with potential for good frames if your gpu is up to it the 42 inch LG is a no brainer at less than all of these 32 in monitors. I got mine for $1600 AUD a few months ago and I imagine black friday sales should see them go lower than that😊
Excellent videos as always. I've been trying to figure out which monitor to get as I was on the market for a 4k high refresh monitor, preferably with decent HDR. I was thinking of risking burn in, because I also work on the monitor, but then I saw an offer for the Samsung Neo G7. I snagged it for 580-590$. I got it from a good store, with good return policy, in case it had problems or I did not like the curve. The curve was a bit wack for the first few days, but then I fully got adjusted to it. Really happy with it's performance and it's HDR so far.
For the love of god, we are all not rich, the MSI MAG 321UP QD-OLED (780) is massively cheaper than the MPG 321URX (1200) but still hits 165 Hz at 4k which is enough. Plus the 27 inch 240 hz is enough so the MSI MAG 271QPX is cheaper then the expensive MSI MPG 271QRX. Please review these monitors and stop pushing the very expensive ones.
2:53 I wish Tim mentioned the MSI 312UPX as it's reasonably priced in Australia, less than the AW3225QF for $1759 at JBHIFI. It's literally almost the same as the URX, just with "less premium" looking back, 15w USB-C and no USB-A ports. It also does firmware updates with the latest shipment.
Any plans/likelihood of getting the Samsung 57" Super Ultrawide Mini-LED display for review? I would love to see your thoughts on it, seems like it would be an absolute beast for productivity, and for gaming especially in sim racers, it would be insane... it is a Dual-4K-sized monitor though, so pushing frames would be a serious challenge. I currently have the older 49" Samsung Neo G9 before they put out the OLED, and I'm currently debating between waiting for the 57" SUW to come out in OLED, getting the 49" OLED SUW, or getting a 39-45" regular Ultrawide OLED for gaming & then getting the 57" Mini-LED for everything else. I prefer curves, I've had this monitor for years now & I definitely don't think I could go back to 16 by 9. Even going to 21 by 9 for a gaming monitor would be sub-optimal, but I also think getting a super ultrawide OLED just for games is crazy talk unless it's a newly released 57" version.
I'm really looking forward to 27" version of these OLED monitors. 32" just becomes a small TV in my eyes and I'd be interested to see if the pixel density makes a difference in clarity. I'd rather have a smaller, clearer monitor closer to my eyes than a larger one further away, being nearsighted and all.
Australian prices are insane. We pay a premium here every time, especially new and high demand products. At these prices, it is not worth the burn-in at all after 3 years warranty.
I went for the Samsung G80SD, very happy with it. It's basically the same as the Asus ROG when it comes to the important aspects, but in Vietnam it's almost 500USD cheaper than the Asus, MSI, and GIgabyte! So the samsung was an absolute no brainer. Maybe Samsung makes them in Vietnam.
Do you think samsung covers burn-in? I recently got mine, and even though I love how it looks and performs but I haven't got a clear answer on burn-in warranty.
Here in Holland the first affordable 4K 32 inch OLED is the AOC Agon Pro AG326UD. It should be releasing near the end of September for € 849. The MSI monitors which are cheaper in the USA are the same price as the top tier brands such as LG and Samsung. I have no experience with AOC but I think it would be worth a gamble to see if it can match the MSI MAG 321UP which would be its direct competitor since it's also a 165hz monitor.
I decided for the LG 27gs95qe.. I dont need the 4k resolution on a 27inch, my 3080ti can make some use of the 240hz... It's at least pretty bright and can be used in the day. I've owned like 7 240hz monitors and I still drive the Acer 390hz but honestly there wasn't much in it. I think the improved low input lag and the crispy motion will do it for me... Let's see though might have to try the 360hz QD-Oleds but yeah it's coming today, excited!!
I hope in the near future there is a 5k dual mode mini led 32" flat option. 1440P high refresh rate is where gaming is at and productivity all other things considered IPS is just better bring along a 2k+ zones in that mini led matrix and we're golden. Mini-led dual mode already exists in the Razer Blade 16 notebook, great mini led algorithms and high zone count already exist in the MacBook Pro's screen just make it fast response and 5k/1440 mode and we get a winner, excellent for productivity, no burn in, great in HDR/SDR. Hope it happens.
The Samsung model can be had cheap in Australia at the moment, although I decided against a (near impulse) purchase because of the bad software interface and the lack of USB-C/KVM... I'll stick with my X34 for a while longer.
The conversation about DP 2.1, relative to the fears and general product lifespan associated with OLED. There's no doubt DP 2.1 is an attractive feature, but if 3-5 years of service is the expected lifespan of the product, is DP 2.1 actually future proofing, relative to the user's budget, gpu, etc. I'm waiting to pull the trigger when the 21:9 5k2k WOLEDS are released next year.
ok but there are many sources that complain about most of these monitors' flickering issues. have you experienced any, and was this in any way a deciding factor on your picks?
Hopefully there will be a video thoroughly contemplating the best 4k mini-LED alternatives available. Burn-in-guarantees aside, many users would prefer not to bother with this to beging with. And then there´s the price difference to OLED. Plus, OLED would be for gaming only. Mini-LED is cheaper and more versatile, without having to deal with the downsides o low contrast IPS.
All the mini LED monitors I’ve ever used not made by apple have been awful. And I don’t say that as an apple fanboy or anything, just someone who’s seen a lot of different monitors
At the moment i'm using a 42" LG C2 OLED as my main monitor. It's served me well over the past 2 years but after trying out the Gigabyte FO32U2P on my secondary PC, i'd really like something like that to replace my C2 OLED with on my main rig. My ideal upgrade spec would be a 42" QD-OLED or WOLED that runs at 4K 240hz and includes an eARC socket for audio passthrough and DP 2.1 80Gbps so its futureproof for when the new GPU generation comes out in a couple of months.
In Germany and, from what I've read in other comments, Europe in general, the Alienware model seems to be the only reasonable choice to get. At current prices (917€, usually more around 1000-1050€), you would have to pay over 350€ more to get the 2nd cheapest one.
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there will be a day where someone cut together an 12h asmr of him saying monitor ID's
Nows your chance, screen capture all his monitor videos and just have him say all the id's. Ez.
Damn I sleep to some of these videos 😂 especially when its a category I dont care much about but i wanna watch to support xD
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@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder Same, i put on my headphones and lie down on my bed and fall into a blissful slumber. It's like magic
I’ll cut the ‘O(a)led’ asmr’s 😂
In Germany the AW3225QF goes for 900 €. All other models between 1.350 € and 1.500 €. For me it's therefore the Alienware unless are absolutely do not want curved.
The cheapest flat one actually being the DP 1.4 version of the Gigabyte one FO32U2 at 1.080 €.
I was just looking at the 34" ultrawides, and gigabyte are the cheapest by 130€, but also DP 1.4. Makes me a bit hesitant knowing their general quality is low.
@@MyrKnof dp 1.4 is easily enough
Bis 13.09. gibt es sogar noch 20% Chasback bei Dell über Shoop. Also für 768€ zu haben
In here the alienware one costs 1466€ 😭 I would definitely buy it if it was 900 €
same in the UK - just went for the AW in the end
It is worth noting that the glossy anti reflection coating is extremely fragile. Just using the wrong fabric to clean them will put scratches on it.
Moving my monitor on its arm and accidentally touching the plastic surface of my desk lamp was enough to put marks on it.
Those marks are not deep scratches as the surface is intact so not visible when pixels are lit, or when in the dark. But it's the AR coating that is removed at these spots and it's visible when there are reflections.
The semi matte plastic finish on LG side is a lot more durable.
@@PoRRasturvaT don't take my advice but look into using a pencil eraser or Vaseline to remove small scratches it works on older monitors without the glossy coating.
On what models?
Rough getting smoother vs smooth getting rough. It's perception of durability
These are the kind of insights I need!
Even though none of these products are designed to have them scratched, knowing something like this may sway the choice from one monitor to another.
Considering that all of these monitors are so similar, especially if we're not comparing between panel technologies.
ok now the big question: How to safely remove it entirely? 😀
I dont even want that AR Layer
I went for AW3225QF. I replaced my AW3423DWF with it because watching UA-cam on it wasn't good. I have no regrets. Recommend this monitor to anyone who is considering 4K OLED. It was also the cheapest one here in Slovakia - 1050eur.
Hey there, forgive me for being nosy but I have the same model, have you been able to get Gsync working through the HDMI 2.1 port ??? I can only get it to work through the display port
@@Kapono5150 What’s the reason that you want to use HDMI 2.1? You’ll still need DSC anyway. Also I’m not sure if all monitors support HDMI forum VRR.
@@Kapono5150 Unless you’re playing at 120 Hz I guess. Then HDMI 2.1 will be well enough even with 10 bit color depth.
Same, I made the same upgrade. Couldn't be more than happier with the Alienware.
@@Simon_Denmark HDMI allows for 12BPC, DP is limited to 10BPC
Best Buy had the Samsung G80SD for under $750 USD open-box. Mine's arriving today, hopefully you all can test it soon, especially since it has a different coating than the other QD-OLED variants!
I just recieved mine 2 days ago. It's crazy how crisp 4k OLEDs can get. Hoping for a full review from these guys soon.
Just got mine a few days ago, it is absolutely stunning!
It's the best one on the market, much nicer colours than the Alienware one
@@ast534 I looked at the review from ratings and it is now consider the "best" 4k oled, so that makes sense!
It's been available here in Australia for months now.. not sure why Tim is ignoring this monitor and everyone asking to include it.
LG C2/3/4 42" OLED 4k 120hz.
Best used in a dark room and without direct sunlight on it.
42" is actually a good size for immersion and the price can be quite low with discounts. And since it is a TV discounts happen frequently.
I burned my eyes while playing Death Stranding on a 65-inch G2 TV with the brightness set to maximum for two months in a dark room. I will never do that again.
Way too big lmao
@@williamg7138then you'd love my 65" that I play from 6' away.
@@tsushima33this is my concern with the G4, the brightest ever. I have a feeling I'll be turning it way down.
@@-8_8- now when i look at bright object they freeze on my eyes for some time, i see “after image” silhouettes
I’m in the US and got the MSI 321URX a few weeks ago and it’s been fantastic and such a joy to use for gaming, editing, and productivity. Although I really wanted dual mode I couldn’t justify the premium when I’m mainly a single player/code/warzone gamer, and even with my 4090 and 14900K you can barely get above 300 consistently on resurgence and big map can’t get above 300 unless you have crazy optimization. I’m glad MSI came in at their price point and made the panel basically as good as the rest
How has it been for productivity? I WFH 8hr days.
@ it’s been perfect. Colors are good and pixel layout is great making text look good
I got the MSI 321UP, which is the 165hz version. It’s the cheapest 4K OLED monitor in the US but still uses the amazing 3rd gen QD-OLED panel.
Because of your and others testing I got the ASUS PG32UCDM about a month ago. I really enjoy it (use it for 50/50 productity/gaming or media). Ive got a nice deal (1100 EUR) so it was worth it. Switched from 4k 60hz LCD and the difference is huge; couldnt imagine going back and finally the 4090 can show its true potential (if only I had the time to actually game lol...). BUT: Thanks for your deepdives. It really helps deciding!
Went with the Asus PG32UCDM and I love it! Amazing 4k monitor. By far the most I have ever spent on a monitor, but man what a difference. Not for everyone, but worth it to me.
I got the same one and I love it as well. Had it for about 6 months now and it’s been perfect, no issues at all. Highly recommend it!
Very helpful. Pulling the trigger soon so it boils down to availability in my area and your recommendations, Tim. Thank you for this.
How is it?
Awesome video! Please do this periodically!
Just purchased the LG C4. Absolutely love it. Went from a 27”. Huge difference for my flight simulator.
This is where I think most folks should go ... it makes the most sense unless one is a competitive gamer ... which (let's be honest) most of us are not.
Then just have an LCD on a monitor arm for non-gaming / media stuffs. :)
@@eliotcole it makes sense unless ur on a PC. buying a tv for PC use is literally unusable lol....
@@Snxgur Nah ... I'm talking about PC.
Normal people are not all running 4090s ( _maybe the steam survey will prove that wrong_ ), and pushing more than 120fps/hz for HDR Ray Traced blah.
Normal people are going to struggle to even hit 120fps most of the time ... unless they're reducing quality ... and ... again ... you're only really going to want to do that if your competitive gaming ... right?
Otherwise it's all horrendously expensive, and largely pointless ... especially because you can only use it for one thing.
@@Snxguruneducated comment of the day
@@eliotcole how am i gonna use a massive TV sceeen on a computer desk dude? how far away would i need to sit , so impractical and horrible for anything other then gaming . how am i meant to work and be productive on a TV?
I'd still like to know about the samsung G80SD and G60SD
i have the G60SD for a month , overall a fantastic monitor and the matte coating isn't that heavy at all
Matte throw it out
I had G60SD. You can't turn pixel shift off and it's fairly fast by default :/. There is no option(but maybe they'll add it in an update?). The back gets really hot at the center. So hot, in fact, that if you sit fairly close, you'll feel that warmth as the back gets to 55C in under 2 hours(at 26C ambient). The frame is uneven(bigger chin). And the extra pixels on the sides make it even worse when browsing. But it's fine during gaming. There is no 'wow' effect going from 240Hz to 360Hz regarding perceived fluidity. You'll need 480Hz instead to see it. Ports on the back are easily accessible and it's a breeze to set it up for VESA monitor arms. The back looks neutral which is nice. The led ring on the back is not intrusive and can be switched off. I had some weird vertical lines in games during motion when brightness was set to lowest(my preference) during grey and dark scenes which seem to disappear when you turn up the brightness(so a non-issue for most people). Not sure what's up with that. Text clarity is decent. "Dirty grey" effect is noticeable but not as bad as 2nd generation. Oh and regarding the matte coating of the G60SD - it's alright BUT it being the QD-OLED you need a fairly dim room to not see the raised blacks(and you'll unfortunately see the loss of contrast). At least they're not getting as purple as on last generation lol
Not available in Australia yet…
@@tacklenutfishing2339 I'm pretty sure it is.
Thanks for Aussie prices inclusion!
The Dell is often down around $1400 AUD…. which makes it hard to ignore unless you really gripe the curve. The other one in the similar price ballpark is the new Samsung G8 - flat but semi matte.
Having never used a curved monitor I was worried about this but having owned the Alienware for a couple of months now I can honestly say I don't really notice.
@@wayn3hsame. My brain just tunes it out.
@@wayn3hyeh and I can’t see how USB C and KVM are really worth an extra $700…..
I finally found one at JB and the curve is so mild that I forgot about it even after a few seconds. Also you can get a refurbished one with full warranty for about $1200.
1440p version of this video PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE!
its already on channel
Surprisingly I found the LG 32 4k to be my favorite among a couple I tried. It has the best stand ergonomics. It’s got truly black blacks in the day, not purple tint. It has no text color fringing and good enough clarity. The matte coating is not “as” matte as other matte screens. It’s got simple controls. It’s not invasive about screen refresh. I got it on sale too.
I love my AW3225QF. The curve is NICE IMO. Never thought I would think that but I do now. I recommend this to ANYONE looking for a HIGH end monitor.
In Australia I regularly see it go on sale from $1900 to $1400. The cheapest I've seen any of the others is the MSI dropping to $1800. It's an insane price difference for an incredible monitor.
I appreciate these kind of videos a ton
Picked up a FO32U2P last april and with 750 hours of use, couldn't be happier with my upgrade from my old 1080p 60hz monitor.
glad I got the PG32UCDM. glossy its way better colours . also if you dont mind natural imperfections then its def for u as far as scanlines mame and that sort of thing when it comes to modern gaming then once again its the best. plenty bright enough.
Glad you specified why the Dual-Modes aren't for you specifically. As someone who plays a lot of competitive FPS games as well as single-player games, Dual-Mode is a dream, otherwise I'd need 2 monitors.
Still waiting for the „What 4k *LCD* Monitor would I personally buy?“ video.
I do mostly productive work, so no OLED because of burn-in, but I still want decent HDR for movies and „good enough“ latency for occasional games. A built-in docking station is also nice to have.
Yes, exactly!
@elegant-sloth The pixel shift should prevent it
Odyssey Neo g8 4k 240hz va.
burn in usually that isnt an issue with the prevention features on. choosing to not go oled JUST because of burn in is the wrong choice
@@Lylcaruisit's more of a cost issue lol
Love my 321URX. Fits the bill perfectly.
Yeah, it's been a great experience so far. Great panel.
Same. It was the least expensive option for me. And all of them were priced so close that I basically picked MSI because it was available in the closest store and I like the flat stand lol.
is it glossy or matte
@feltond glossy, but I have blackout curtains in my entertainment area.
If you're in the US, Costco has a deal on the 48-in LG c4 OLED for $700 innstore
Does it show online? Online says 1.2k.
@@Slambear nope. in store only
@@Slambear you can use online to see if it's in stock at your store, but I think you need to be in store to see the discount
That’s a TV
@@rrahma114 I’ll check in person, thanks
thanks for being so thorough. this was particularly helpful
I recently bought an Aorus FO32U2P. The Display Port 2.1 support was the dealmaker. I used my last monitor (Samsung U28E850D) for eight years, and I expect this one to last for a similarly long time. And even though current graphic cards don't support DP 2.1, future ones will.
Lol I had the same Samsung monitor!! I went with the Asus pg32ucdm what an upgrade..
JB Hifi had the Alienware AW3225QF on sale for a very short time at $1511
Suffice to say I bought 2 of them. One for me and one for my daughter 😂
I cannot fault it. The modest curve doesn’t bother me at all. It’s my first curved monitor. I game 97% on my PC so it’s completely fine.
I will say I had concerns about getting a gloss monitor as I’d never had one before and all reviews say how bad reflections and natural light are on them but again I cannot complain about this monitor. It handles them very well. I game mostly at night through the week but during the day on weekends at times. Not a problem.
I appreciate all of the reviews you have done making the very tough decision on 32” 4k QD Oleds much easier.
I agree the Gigabyte is a winner here in Australia but at $1500 I could not miss the opportunity.
Cheers
BTW this monitor is $1889.80 on Dell’s website. Has been for awhile…
I must also say, no burn in at all after 6 months. I have the power settings at 5 minutes, taskbar and desktop shortcuts are hidden. I have had the same static wallpaper the entire time.
No issues. I think they’re better than most people think. 👌🏼
My PG32UCDP should arrive in the next couple of days. Can’t wait!
I watched all your reviews for the 4k oleds and this one here was so helpful to know which one I want to buy. Since we have the aw3225qf at 900-1000€ in Germany and most of the others are about 30% more expensive this is quite a no brainer for me now. Thanks a lot for your content :)
this is the 2nd time in the past week where I am looking for as much good info about something i am about to buy and you or Steve release a video with the exact title for it
Which one addresses the problem of sub-pixel layout when it comes to text?
“That I haven’t reviewed yet” G80SD review confirmed wooo
This is good news since I just bought the MSI. One benefit of the MSI is also internal psu. Fewer bricks in my setup is nice. The MSI also supports more power through the USB-C (90 vs 65w on GB)
I have FO32U2P over 2200 hours on it, 0 issues.
Literally came to this channel and looked for this video yesterday. Great timing still 🤣
Upgraded last month to Alienware 4k oled from Lg Ultragear 1440p, both 32inch, the difference is quite shocking. Once you go Oled, there is no going back.
Best but had a AW3225QF open box excellent for $803 so I bought that. Comes in soon!
Can plans to do a 1440p and a widescreen version of this?
Thank you for the reviw. I got Samsung neo G8, which is a miniLED and I love it:32", high brightness, HDR, 4K, 240 refresh rate, the best monitor I ever had
I am waiting for the 48 inch ones with 240 hz . Would be the best for my setup.
There is no GPU even remotely on the horizon that can run 4k 48inch at 240hz.
@@Sly_404 Such a stupid argument, you don't need to always run at 240hz
@@Sly_404 you are just an ...
@@Sly_404 There are plenty of titles that can run at 240fps. A lot of people these days play one older game and that's all their interested in.
Alienware AW3225QF glossy finish 👌
Awesome job Tim on OLED monitor choice 🙏💪
Any chance of reviews on the new Samsung QD-OLEDs?
Another monitor which you can add to this list, is the Samsung Odessey G8 OLED G80SD.
Its also the cheapest model in Australia and can be had for as low as 1200-1300 AUD when its on sale with a coupon or 2.
I ordered and tomorow is coming Samsung Oled G80sd
@@Horned26 I got mine today, its a nice monitor but the software Samsung put on its a PITA. Who wants to register for a samsung account just to use a monitor.
My suggestion, If you waited already till now, then at least wait for January where the next Gen oled monitors are going to be presented❤
I find it funny that new models are announced in CES but majority people buy in nov/Dec during holiday seasons. This always leads people buying hardware that will be "best" for just few months only to be replaced by a "better" tech.
4k 480hz oled
@@pretentious_a_ness Maybe for US buyers since it's easy to get a good deal, but especially here the difference between an AW and an Aorus for example is like $600. 2nd Gen QD-OLED are good enough that I'd jump on a good deal rather than have the best tech and spend an extra $1000
@@pretentious_a_ness I think once there are 4k 480hz oled monitors it'll be game over
@Garrus-w2h if you are buying such expensive product why would you settle for less than best out there.
The curve of the Alienware absolutely adds more Emerson. I love it
Great video Tim, thanks!!
I never really cared about monitors much. For so long I was a poor student so everything was about maximizing every cent in terms of performance, so a fancy monitor was never even something I thought about. Somehow I've not seen an OLED screen until yesterday, and holy shit they really are bloody nice, aren't they?!? The colour is just so damn coloury!
Some of these monitors have fans which gets noisier over time
Heatsink is better ?
Heatsink is always better if you don't want fans in it. They suck in dust, get dirty and will probably go louder or stop working.
@@Peh84 ty
I personally went with the LG as I was able to stack discounts on their store to get it, a Bluetooth speaker, and a wireless mouse for ~$900 USD before tax which poses a more interesting price comparison than the joke of MSRP
This is a super helpfull video. All of your reviews are great but only with one huge "flaw", and that is the price, it's super hard to know if the same recommendation would be applied in my country with the prices here. This video solves that issue, while also having all of the most recommended monitors in it. Thank you!
The Alienware AW3225QF is currently $999 at Best Buy. Do I pull the trigger?
What is the best monitor for gaming and office use? So I assume non-oled?
No mention of the G80SD?
damn still no love for the samsung q80sd? the new oled g8 needs a vid from you dude
Now do the same thing for 1440 oled monitors. Thank you!
After getting a Switch OLED, I feel that itch for an OLED 4k monitor to pair with my 4k LCD monitors. This video is real helpful, especially as I wait for prices to drop considerably as the technology gets cheaper and more reliable.
What I like and want...
1. 4k oled
2. 32 inch
3. Gloss
4. 120 hz (anything more is overkill)
5. 650 nits or higher
6. Flat not curved!
And preferably no gamer esthetic. I don't need rgb or any kind of lighting, no speakers or any extra bullshit.
Just give me raw performance without any extra frills. I don't want my monitor to look over the top. I want my games to look over the top.
I have the MSI since April one of my best pc parts upgrade ever coming from previous 4K Nano IPS
It doesn't exist (yet), but I'd love to see an updated larger 48" version of my current LG Flex 42 OLED. My primary use is for Flightsim, so I don't need anything greater than 120Hz. However, OLED is a must, once you've used one it's amazing. The versatility of a flex screen is something that would be very hard to give up. While the size of the LG Flex 42 is nice, their latest gen C4 48" OLED would hit the sweet spot for me. I don't need the built in speakers nor the LED RGB on the back of the Flex 42, so LG could charge less for a version without both. Granted, Flightsim might not be the biggest market for any manufacturer to cater to, but it's growing extremely fast. With the pending release of MSFS2024, the Flightsim hobby will grow to be a huge market.
can we expect a review of the Samsung Odyssey OLED G8 G80SD, 32"??
I grabbed the Asus pg32ucdm as it went on sale for $2300(NZD) in NZ (New Zealand) which in its own right is huge, as it's usually around $3200 or sometimes in the last month $3500.
I guess i must have missed it but which monitor did he pick?
The Alienware frequently goes on sale here in Australia for around au$1500
I would prefer if you mention VRR flicker issues more often :(
It's a non issue for me. VRR flicker only happens in menus if devs don't care about the frame pacing there. If you check RTSS while in main menu in RDR2, for example, the frame pacing is all over the place, hence the VRR flicker. During normal use - desktop apps, gaming, etc... it's a non issue.
@@dolan_plz It's not a non-issue for all combinations of monitors, games and players, though. I couldn't use VRR at all in The Last of Us on my LG C1; the flicker added far more annoyance than the minor smoothness benefit from VRR, so I turned it off and played at a fixed 120 Hz with a FPS of about 70-85.
Ive owned my AW3225QF for 5 months and this is a non issue for me.
Got the PG32UCDM and so far it's only an issue in Cyberpunk2077. But still an issue, where I have to deactivate VRR to play it without flickering.
I used flat 32 inch monitor for last 8 years and bought 32 inch 1800R (heavy curve) samsung neo g7 and to be honest after fist shock I was able to switch almost instantly to the new curvature and it doesn`t bother me at all, I actually kinda like it, adds a bit of immersion.
Prices in my country:
ASUS PG32UCDM: 1500 €
MSI MPG 321URX: 1400 €
Dell AW3225FQ: 1000 €
LG 32GS95UE: 1300 €
ASUS PG32UCDP: 1800 €
Gigabyte FO32U2P: 1300 €
Samsung G8 G80SD: 1000 €.
So, if you want it cheap and don't want a curved screen, the Samsung might be your deal.
I just got the MSI MAG 321UP for a steal during the Prime Days sale, but from Best Buy since I had a coupon to use and a bunch of rewards saved. If you're just playing single player games, this thing is perfect!
How much?
@@DRDRE-cm7qo After rewards and promos $595.
I ordered the gigabyte Pro and I found it at 10% off in the US. Can’t wait to check it out!
can MSI mpg 321urx be used for color grading after calibration?
For my gaming PC, I wanted a 144 Hz 4K screen with decent color accuracy, good viewing angles, at least 300 NITS, and a logical menu for a decent price. I chose the Gigabyte M32U for roughly half the price of a 32" OLED. I'm happy with it, and the money I saved could be the difference between a 4070 and a 4080 Super or between a 7700XT and a 7900XTX.
I love videos like this for some reason 😂
Went with the Dell. 3 year burn-in warranty and 800 USD after coupon code and cashback made my decision to purchase it an easy one. The slight curve took a week to get used to. Wish it wasn’t curved but the curve doesn’t bother me. 😊
LG c4 is the way to go for most people I think, if you're mainly wanting to play newer games in 4k it ticks most boxes and looks fantastic! If you need more than 120/144hz for competitive gaming then you aren't playing in 4k anyway... if you want cinematic 4k with potential for good frames if your gpu is up to it the 42 inch LG is a no brainer at less than all of these 32 in monitors. I got mine for $1600 AUD a few months ago and I imagine black friday sales should see them go lower than that😊
Excellent videos as always. I've been trying to figure out which monitor to get as I was on the market for a 4k high refresh monitor, preferably with decent HDR. I was thinking of risking burn in, because I also work on the monitor, but then I saw an offer for the Samsung Neo G7. I snagged it for 580-590$. I got it from a good store, with good return policy, in case it had problems or I did not like the curve. The curve was a bit wack for the first few days, but then I fully got adjusted to it. Really happy with it's performance and it's HDR so far.
Bought the Aorus FO32U2 on launch and absolutely love it. Save 150 bucks to sacrifice DP 2.1
You need to review the Samsung G80SD asap
For the love of god, we are all not rich, the MSI MAG 321UP QD-OLED (780) is massively cheaper than the MPG 321URX (1200) but still hits 165 Hz at 4k which is enough. Plus the 27 inch 240 hz is enough so the MSI MAG 271QPX is cheaper then the expensive MSI MPG 271QRX. Please review these monitors and stop pushing the very expensive ones.
2:53 I wish Tim mentioned the MSI 312UPX as it's reasonably priced in Australia, less than the AW3225QF for $1759 at JBHIFI. It's literally almost the same as the URX, just with "less premium" looking back, 15w USB-C and no USB-A ports. It also does firmware updates with the latest shipment.
Any plans/likelihood of getting the Samsung 57" Super Ultrawide Mini-LED display for review? I would love to see your thoughts on it, seems like it would be an absolute beast for productivity, and for gaming especially in sim racers, it would be insane... it is a Dual-4K-sized monitor though, so pushing frames would be a serious challenge.
I currently have the older 49" Samsung Neo G9 before they put out the OLED, and I'm currently debating between waiting for the 57" SUW to come out in OLED, getting the 49" OLED SUW, or getting a 39-45" regular Ultrawide OLED for gaming & then getting the 57" Mini-LED for everything else.
I prefer curves, I've had this monitor for years now & I definitely don't think I could go back to 16 by 9. Even going to 21 by 9 for a gaming monitor would be sub-optimal, but I also think getting a super ultrawide OLED just for games is crazy talk unless it's a newly released 57" version.
I'm really looking forward to 27" version of these OLED monitors. 32" just becomes a small TV in my eyes and I'd be interested to see if the pixel density makes a difference in clarity. I'd rather have a smaller, clearer monitor closer to my eyes than a larger one further away, being nearsighted and all.
Australian prices are insane. We pay a premium here every time, especially new and high demand products. At these prices, it is not worth the burn-in at all after 3 years warranty.
lol i thought you were wearing a call of duty black ops 3 hoodie but it was just the strings!!
I went for the Samsung G80SD, very happy with it. It's basically the same as the Asus ROG when it comes to the important aspects, but in Vietnam it's almost 500USD cheaper than the Asus, MSI, and GIgabyte! So the samsung was an absolute no brainer. Maybe Samsung makes them in Vietnam.
Do you think samsung covers burn-in? I recently got mine, and even though I love how it looks and performs but I haven't got a clear answer on burn-in warranty.
@@ShredderXGaming yuh i fucking hate how ambiguous they are with it. Some say its chill others say no, so stupid
@@ShredderXGaming It varies from region to region, there is no global warranty.
Here in Holland the first affordable 4K 32 inch OLED is the AOC Agon Pro AG326UD. It should be releasing near the end of September for € 849. The MSI monitors which are cheaper in the USA are the same price as the top tier brands such as LG and Samsung. I have no experience with AOC but I think it would be worth a gamble to see if it can match the MSI MAG 321UP which would be its direct competitor since it's also a 165hz monitor.
do bear in mind that model has a matte display, which was why i chose the fo32u2 instead
I decided for the LG 27gs95qe.. I dont need the 4k resolution on a 27inch, my 3080ti can make some use of the 240hz... It's at least pretty bright and can be used in the day. I've owned like 7 240hz monitors and I still drive the Acer 390hz but honestly there wasn't much in it. I think the improved low input lag and the crispy motion will do it for me... Let's see though might have to try the 360hz QD-Oleds but yeah it's coming today, excited!!
I hope in the near future there is a 5k dual mode mini led 32" flat option. 1440P high refresh rate is where gaming is at and productivity all other things considered IPS is just better bring along a 2k+ zones in that mini led matrix and we're golden. Mini-led dual mode already exists in the Razer Blade 16 notebook, great mini led algorithms and high zone count already exist in the MacBook Pro's screen just make it fast response and 5k/1440 mode and we get a winner, excellent for productivity, no burn in, great in HDR/SDR. Hope it happens.
Great work as always! Do you have a recommendation on the best non-OLED monitor as well? I do a lot of static work and burn-in is a real issue for me!
Just bought the lg c4 42, mostly play single player games so I don't really need something more than 144hz and got a pretty good deal.
I am also planning to buy how good is playing on tv
The Samsung model can be had cheap in Australia at the moment, although I decided against a (near impulse) purchase because of the bad software interface and the lack of USB-C/KVM... I'll stick with my X34 for a while longer.
The conversation about DP 2.1, relative to the fears and general product lifespan associated with OLED. There's no doubt DP 2.1 is an attractive feature, but if 3-5 years of service is the expected lifespan of the product, is DP 2.1 actually future proofing, relative to the user's budget, gpu, etc. I'm waiting to pull the trigger when the 21:9 5k2k WOLEDS are released next year.
ok but there are many sources that complain about most of these monitors' flickering issues. have you experienced any, and was this in any way a deciding factor on your picks?
Hopefully there will be a video thoroughly contemplating the best 4k mini-LED alternatives available. Burn-in-guarantees aside, many users would prefer not to bother with this to beging with. And then there´s the price difference to OLED. Plus, OLED would be for gaming only. Mini-LED is cheaper and more versatile, without having to deal with the downsides o low contrast IPS.
All the mini LED monitors I’ve ever used not made by apple have been awful. And I don’t say that as an apple fanboy or anything, just someone who’s seen a lot of different monitors
What about the Samsung G8 (G80SD)?
With DSC Nvidia turns off DSR and DLDSR. Also you cannot use more than two displays if any need DSC.
why pg32ucdm in your country is more expensive than pg32ucdp? Does it have certain features that are superior to the others?
Can you please do one for 1440p monitors as well?
At the moment i'm using a 42" LG C2 OLED as my main monitor. It's served me well over the past 2 years but after trying out the Gigabyte FO32U2P on my secondary PC, i'd really like something like that to replace my C2 OLED with on my main rig. My ideal upgrade spec would be a 42" QD-OLED or WOLED that runs at 4K 240hz and includes an eARC socket for audio passthrough and DP 2.1 80Gbps so its futureproof for when the new GPU generation comes out in a couple of months.
In Germany and, from what I've read in other comments, Europe in general, the Alienware model seems to be the only reasonable choice to get. At current prices (917€, usually more around 1000-1050€), you would have to pay over 350€ more to get the 2nd cheapest one.
Really like the channel and the in-depth analysis of monitors. Plz test the Samsung oled g8 (g80SD) if you can get your hands on it