Imho, what your oled monitor reviews lack is the hdr color brightness section, also show brightness for red, green, magenta, yellow etc when comparing woled to qd oleds
I mean people that buy this type of monitor don't really care about that it's made for eSports games mainly if you want to see does stuff watch a 4k qd oled review instead
@@anssiaatos Alt tabbing on 1440p @480hz is cancer if you don't have enough bandwidth and have to use compression, some people literally get ~20 seconds
agreed, wont upgrade to anything less than 2.1, we all need to start embracing all this newer tech.. the new 50 series will have DP2.1 and gen5 plus gen5 ssd's, why have a bottleneck at the last second going to your monitor? ....it's time people
@@Landolakes420 had to return my samsung G60SD because of that terrible text fringing, it was unbearable, if i continue to hear good things about this monitors layout i might have to upgrade to it
me too, the subpixel format was what i was expecting, but it is 300€ more... ofc there are more perks included, but now i am torn between this and XG27AQDMG, imho 240hz should be more than enough even for competitive FPS as main use, unless you a pro i guess. damn hard choice
@@purfectoI just got the DMG last month, the text never been an issue with me, the colors are good, 240Hz is amazing. The glossy is just stunning, I don’t think I’ll ever go to Matt again. The only thing that I dislike about the monitor is the “PWM” dimming or whatever the equivalent is for OLED Monitors, my eyes don’t notice it but it puts some strain to my eyes.
Those people were high or coping hard tbh. First time playing on 144 Hz after only seeing 30 or 60 blew my mind. Gotta be honest, I've never had that feeling again. 240 Hz LCD and 360 Hz OLED both feel like very tiny jumps to me from 144-180 Hz compared to jumping from 60 to 144.
To me I can see "choppyness" up to around 180-200Hz Past that it "feels" smoother. Like I can tell 240 from 360, but it just is clearer, less blurry, instead of less choppy
@@rileyhance318 I mostly noticed it stepping back down to 180 Hz LCD from 360 Hz OLED. But it only bothered me a little bit and for like 5 minutes, whereas I'm sure it would be much more unpleasant and would take me ages to get used to 60 again. I'm sure other people are much more sensitive tho
@@stefannita3439Same thing for me,from 60 to 144hz was a huge difference,but when I tried 240hz after 144hz I didn't felt to much difference.Now I have 240hz and I will stick for a while with this monitor.In games like CS2 with high fps support and Pro scene maybe 1 millisecond is important...but for me is not worth it at the launch price.
@@benjaminoechsli1941 it does feel like maybe 5 guys work on windows and the rest is just trying to sell their SaaS solutions and tie the economy to them.
Could you please include an "Excel test"? Open a sheet and fill a column with yellow. You will see that red and green vertical lines appear on the edges of the column, where black lines should be. This will help people who want to work and game on the same monitor to make a better choice, thank you.
@@vladyslavkorenyak872 I work on pg27aqdm and this problem on text doesn't annoy me. Honestly, If I didn't see on review there s a problem on text clarity, perhaps I will never notify it !
I have a 1440P 100 hz and a 1080P 180 hz. Not sure if anything above 180 is really noticeable other than maybe highend competitive gaming. But I am happy I got a high refresh, makes the experience more fun
Will soon upgrade to the dell 360hz 1440p 27" OLED from an LG 1080p 144hz. It's been 4 years since my set-up upgrade. Jumping from 1660S to 4070 as well. So it will be a great jump.
These ultra high refresh rates are not for anything more than blur reduction and increased motion resolution. Having refresh rates of up to 1500 frames per second it's going to show benefit when you're talking about increasing the motion resolution the panel is capable of. The unobtainium refresh rate is for those of us that Miss the motion handling that CRTs used to have LOL
This is what I'm excited for as well. I want to pair it with the PG32UQX. PG32UQX for single-player and work. PG27AQNR for competitive gaming and as a side display for youtube and whatnot when I'm using the PG32UQX.
I disagree about the blanking length with BFI. Yes, a shorter pules gives more clarity, but the monitor still needs to be usable. Even on my 120hz Samsung QLED TV it's just barely bright enough to be useful with BFI enabled. Cutting brightness in half should be the industry standard for BFI, but in a perfect world yes these devices should be able to overdrive the pixels to 400% with a 1/8th frame pulse (still half brightness but I'm not asking for miracles).
10:00 that's the first time one can clearly see the 3 eyes of the alien and the pixels making up the ufo's ring. everything else even 360 hz smears them together 27:50 and as good as this monitor is, i'll get it but sell it immediately and buy a glossy equivalent whenever that comes out.
The only thing that I feel is a big miss with this one is that it isn't a Gsync Pulsar monitor which would have made BFI+VRR to be used at the same time possible. I will buy day one the first 480 HZ OLED Gsync Pulsar monitor. 480HZ+BFI+VRR on OLED with 4X persistence improvement would give you CRT motion clarity on a flat panel which is my dream.
@@gigantoad3261 Maybe for now, but never say never. For the longest time, we taught having Backlight Strobing+VRR simultaneously on any form of display was impossible and now it is. I can't see myself giving up OLED for Gsync Pulsar so I'll wait.
@@chrissoucy1997It's not possible with OLED because backlight strobing is something completely different from BFI. The names basically describe the difference, and then specifically G-Sync Pulsar works by controlling the pulse width of the backlight to a specific pattern in line with the frame times. So the length of the strobe doesn't have to match the render frametime directly, but it still stays in sync. You don't have a backlight to pulse separately from the refresh rate on OLED. Maybe you could implement VRR with BFI in some other way, the limitation is the timing requirements are very precise and you can end up with uneven framerates, but I think the better way to hit this level of motion clarity on OLEDs is by capping the framerate and using a linear lagless frame interpolation technique (so 120hz becomes 240/480, 120hz because with a high input you get a better quality output) because of VRR flicker and just the benefit of a perfectly smooth framerate (which you can try right now with AFMF or Lossless Scaling minus the lagless, it's already a good idea for framecapped retro games and this monitor) Edit: and now I'm just yapping, but potentially a combination of frame interpolation and BFI could work around the VRR limitations. You can't have half frames but if you always run the display at native, then you can certainly display a render frame and an inserted frame at the same length as 2 half frames. I guess what I'm describing here is how some VR displays work already, but I wonder if they combine the 2 like I describe)
I hope companies don't just abandon high end LCDs for OLED. I love my OLED TV but as a work from home software dev I can't have an OLED displaying static bars 10 hours a day.
I don't think LCDs will ever be replaced by OLEDs because people will always have their preferences, LCDs will still be brighter than OLEDs for a while and they will constantly get better and better with more dimming zones to get similar black levels. Of course LCDs will never have the same motion clarity but some people probably don't notice that.
@KaledTV Actually laughable that the first consumer devices to support full uhbr20 display port 2.1 bandwidth are intel laptops. Both meteor lake and lunar lake support 80gbs display port 2.1 lmao. AMD and nvidia are the real ones to blame for the lack of dp 2.1 on monitors because there's no point of monitor makers adding them. AMD didn't support the full amount and thus still needs dsc at 1440p 480hz while nvidia didn't at all so why add it to new monitors?
@@Frozoken They should add it to monitor because people upgrade their monitors less often than they do upgrade their GPUs, if next gen of GPUs offer DP 2.1 we will be stuck with DSC if we buy this one.
@KaledTV obviously they should but this is late stage capitalism we're talking about lmao. If its not an an immediate selling point it's getting canned
Important to note that at the 10 bit colour mode on display port you're now at 3:1 display stream compression which is significantly more likely to have perceptible artefacts and issues in general so there's still an advantage to using hdmi here
@eugenijusdolgovas9278 naw I prefer 27 at 1440p 32 and up will be 4k for me. I like super high ppi aka pixel density. It really does effect Me when it's lower. My 55inch 4k matches the pixel density of a 1440p 32inch panel. So for me 27inch 1440p panel is the move for a monitor.
@@luisnussbaum5892the coating is lovely, i own it. way prefer it over my alienware qd oled. way way better colours and more 3d effect . no more eye strain
I was thinking for you next best monitors line-up, I'd be very interested in what you'd recommend for people that want a high end gaming monitor (high refresh, good colors, maybe HDR), but also use it for work. I think a lot of people that can actually afford these 1000$+ gaming monitors also regularly use it for work when they work from home. So then OLED burn in protection features, USB-c input, KVM switches, and perhaps even DP-out options for such monitors are actually pretty important as well. I wonder what you would recommend keeping those requirements in mind!
I returned the 4K 32 inch 480hz LG due to lower brightness/uncertainty and I slightly regret it. Was a very good monitor. 480hz is AT LEAST twice as good as 240hz imo, not due to response time or latency but motion clarity. The difference it makes for a eSports title player like me in Overwatch is breathtaking. I expected the picture quality to be the bigger upgrade from my Samsung G7 Odyssey QHD240hz but the motion clarity was actually more impactful. But I want to wait for a monitor that is a little bit better or for the prices to go down and get an even better sale than the one I originally got so I ended up returning it. This is another big option I am considering but I am so used to 32 inches now even as someone that loves playing a lot of eSports titles too. 4k is addictive too and my 3080 did pretty well with it but stuff like Halo Infinite was not great. This having qhd instead of 1080p for that mode is enticing too
Development didn’t stop, displays get better. You’ll be entering the market later, is how I think about it. Trying out QD-OLED and WOLED recently, SDR brightness was not good enough for me too. QD’s color fringing I found irritating, as if I had bad glasses with chromatic abberation; and white was just not white. Always a bit pink.
@@EditioCastigata like the way you put it. I am curious how long it will be until more 32 inch WOLEDs will come out. Yeah the magenta tint on QD-OLEDs is definitely noticeable to me too. I was going into Best Buy to look at them. I lean towards WOLEDs due to that and the 480hz motion clarity but want both to be brighter. I think the Switch OLEDs 343 nits is a good minimum to target for uniform brightness. The Steam Deck OLEDs 600-1000 nits and my S22 Ultra's 1200-1750 nits are godly and definitely show me the potential for how hard they can push someday.
"FOR THOSE WHO DARE" (to have tacky writing on the back on their monitors). The new WOLED subpixel layout is better, but not a complete solution. Burn-in and VRR flicker remain issues. Still waiting for a better OLED solution before I'll switch to that technology.
While the price is a frick ton of money but if we keep waiting and waiting, then once you are about to buy a new monitor, there will be leaks and rumors about the new best monitor imaginable, so you will keep on waiting and be sitting on your 60Hz for decades. ☹️
@@iwantum First, I don't have a 60Hz monitor, I have a 240Hz monitor. Second, I never said I wanted the "best monitor", I just pointed out weaknesses that I'll never accept in a monitor.
if you want completely eliminate DSC, you need DP 2.1 with 80Gbit/s link (what is called UHBR 20), there are limitations for such speeds with cables currently reaching about 1.2 meters max, and support from GPUs is non existent other than some professional level AMD cards, plus DP 2.1 scalars are not cheap. So there are good reason why not bother right now with DP 2.1 - in several years, sure there will be better compatibility with cables and GPUs, but right now - it is useless. When DP 2.1 will be more mainstream we will see more monitors with it.
@@jshico3417 This why I emphasized supporting UHBR 20 link. Displayport 2.1 has 3 flavors UHBR 10, UHBR 13.5 and UHBR 20. RX 7700XT comes with the DP 2.1 but only UHBR 13.5 (about 52 Gbit/s effective bandwidth) which isn't enough for 1440p@480Hz uncompressed, but it is close at around 452Hz for max refresh rate at 8 bit, at 10bit it drops to 378Hz.
nice monitor but i'm saddened ASUS (and everybody else too) refuses to experiment with "per pixel row" BFI which should be 100% achievable with self-emissive pixels like OLED and would give us 480Hz with BFI on since every other row of pixels would flash to black while the other stays on
Just bought a 240Hz 4K 32” OLED monitor for my RTX 4090. I can only barely see the difference between 144Hz and 240Hz when two monitors are side by side. I don’t think I could notice any difference with 480Hz. 1440p->4K on the other hand is very noticeable for me. Both setups require similar GPU performance (2x pixels vs 2x frames). It was a super easy choice for me. I of course understand that professional gamers would pick this 480Hz monitor instead.
exactly! it's pretty much the ultimate gaming monitor for me, due to ELMB but i have a matte and a glossy monitor here side by side and the difference is clearly visible.
@@ying2837 also very disappointed, might buy the asus qd oled thats releasing soon. i know it's not a new panel and 120hz less, but it got a glossy coating and better colors
We could see a 480hz OLED with the new g-sync module and a glossy panel on top of a matte panel just like XG27AQDMG, but with this logic there will be better monitors on 2026 and there will be even better monitors on 2027 so you could just wait. The "glossy" WOLED panels aren't glossy either, they just have an extra glossy coating on top of the semi-matte coating to market it like it's pure glossy.
@@141menace You got it wrong. You won't see many of those at a high base frame like 120. If you've been using it at 30, yeah you'll see some, still not a lot btw. The fking thing learns quick.
@@owerpovered3330 You know I'd still use this until DLSS 3 gives me x3- x4 fps? Lowering power consumption by half is just great. Turns your 2080 Ti into 3090 Ti.
the refresh rate can go as high as they want if the issued are not adressed. what we need is dp2.1 support, better hdr infrastructure, better windows text rendering.vrr flicker needs to be adressed I dont think just increasing the
At least they are acknowledging it now but I've been complaining to LG for a year now. I cannot enable VRR in Rocket league since going into any menu or even opening the scoreboard it flickers and my eyes fatigue much quicker to the point of headaches. This is not QoL anymore this is a health issue for me. I just deal with the tearline now but I really shouldn't have to. I should be able to set a VRR range manually.
HDR indeed leaves much to be desired if I compare it with our LG G3 TV lol Also the G3 seems to have a more glossy panel than the monitors. it pops out more.
Beautiful monitor spec wise, but dogshit aesthetics. That big "FOR THOSE WHO DARE" line on the back and all the RGB just kills it. Wish there was more stuff with amazing specs that didn't look so lame.
me also, dont like buy 4k yet, but 27 is too small for me, have 32inch monitor, but like the same in with OLED technology. have not the young eyes like you lol
Meanwhile ACER just released 3 new monitors, Acer Nitro XV240 F6, XV270U F5, & XV270 F5, F6 can do 600hz at 1080p, and the others can do 520hz at 1440p and the other one at 1080p. XV240F6 at 600$, F5XV270 at 800$ and F5XV270 at 600$.
That XV270U F5 500Hz QHD screen is the only interesting one out of those 3. That XV240 F6 24'' is a TN, and Acer already made a 540Hz 24'' TN monitor last year. I'm not sure why they bothered making that one. That XV270 is a garbage 27'' 1080p screen. Only an idiot would buy that.
I own that one and the "matte" 240hz one, the difference between the strix matte and glossy is absolutely nothing lol, except in the light the matte looks way better the 480hz matte is way worth it over 240hz "glossy", asus dont use real glossy anyway like a TV does, the newer matte coatings are just so much better compared to the typical IPS matte coatings, that its not worth going glossy due to the loss of visability in light.
Nah. Believe me 27" 4K is just not ideal with pixel density at normal viewing distance. I've such a Monitor and I regret not chosing the 32" 4K instead....
@@Snxgur I got 4k480 on my 3080 😅 in games like Overwatch which is my main game. Not every popular game is hard to run. By the time 4k480hz monitors will be coming out the 5080 50 series and AMDs equivalents will probably be coming out
Since no one else is saying it I will. OLED with a matte finish is a waste of money. The gloss screen basically gives you retna level display. I can’t imagine why these companies keep doing this.
Weird that they went back to that giant stand instead of sticking with the newer pedestal style stand they're using on the glossy WOLED and some of their other monitors.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 You can put the 27" in a distance that equals the effective viewing size of 24", so you'll end up with sharper image and better versatility for desktop placement. Personally 24" requires face to be quite close to the monitor so 27" helps with ergonomics.
Since I am not one of the suckers that instantly cough up the now standard $1K price requirement companies have for everything, this is a pass. Will wait for the 850hz OLEDs, that will be clearly faster and better, with the added benefit of AI that can handle your Asus warranty claims.
You're never gonna get 4k 480fps consistently. Ain't ever happening without competitive settings and on very few games. Valorant 1% dips to 300 at 4k with 4090. You can be sure that 6090 will dip to at least 360 even with all it's power. CS2 dips to 200 Apex Legends only supports up to 190fps and 240 effective FPS. Warzone dips to 80s and 50s 0.1% RB6 and OW2 are the only 2 games that can keep 400+fps with 4090 at 4k competitive settings. 4k 480 or 540hz will be really hard to master and it has to be 2k+ for 1 panel + 1k for brand naming.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 4k 480hz is possible right now on any released 4k oled, its just matter of using dp 2.1 but yea they will prob overprice it. Also frame generation, 480hz is just to have versatility on panel so you can play any game on it basically ( ideally would be 8k which can switch to 4k 480hz so you basically have 10 year futureproof).
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278Never say never lol. Especially since monitors are progressing really quickly on the refresh rate front. When I built my first PC (only 6 and a half years ago) the fastest monitors were 1080p 240hz. Now we're watching a review for a 1440p 480hz monitor. 4K 480hz is definitely happening at some point even if it's not exactly practical with current GPU tech.
why did they have to name this to cause so much confusion there's a version that's supposedly the same, but with M instead of P at the end and it's just 240hz but with a supposedly older panel
For example i do own the PG258Q from 2017 (240Hz) but now there is the PG248QP (540Hz) with a lower number and the letter P. Usually the higher the number, the better the product but Asus is going downwards with their naming scheme.
@@iwantum The first two digits, i.e., the 25, 24 (or 27, 32 in other model numbers) are the display size in inches. They have nothing to do with the display tech, generation, etc. It's quite the norm for most monitor makers to put the display size in the name like that.
Bro, almost zero content use any colors over regular DCI-P3 color gamut anyway. You will almost for sure be running it calibrated to that. Sure wider is better for future proofing. But as I said there does not seem to be any push yet for any format or content that even use the Rec 2020. First the color grading monitors need to all get to full or close REC 2020 so they can even master content for it. And we are unfortunately still far away form that even.
@@cajampa Content has nothing to do with that Your display can show its whole color gamut on SRGB content too. That's how most people run their monitor, because the colors look more vibrant What do you think why a QD OLED monitor looks more vibrant than a TN panel that has 100% SRGB coverage?
@@Violet-ui LOL sure buddy. It looks "more vibrant". Either you show the content how it is designed to be shown or you are wrong. It is quite simple. But you do you. You are new at thinking about these things. And you are so confidently wrong I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you how it really works. It is like they say you are "Not even wrong".
@@zer0366 yeah but we live with it 😂 so $1000 feels like the $1100 price tag to us. Not really a surprise. Little bit of an odd system but it allows people in the state/the state pick how much they want the tax to be/how they want it to work. Like for us Michiganders it's 6% but our grocery store food/medicine isn't taxed
So far it's unclear how they're going to get it to work on oleds. The blogpost is all about backlight and voltage control for lcds. They'd have to do everything from scratch for oleds
I feel like VRR flicker should be mentioned, it's a big issue that makes using VRR often a worse experience than leaving it off. I just tested anti-flicker on the PG27AQDP and it seems to take a higher multiple of the framerate, so e.g. a 100 FPS would result in 200 or 300 Hz. Ironically, though, it causes even more noticeable flicker than when anti-flicker is disabled.
IPS were way too slow with their pixel response times to even do high refresh. They tried to improve it with "overdrive" option but that just makes them do ghosting even more.
Genuinely don't understand that hate for this. I get some people are scared of OLED burn-in, but that's largely not even a medium term issue these days. As for those that can't understand the need for 480hz or higher frame rates.... It's simple. Games that rely heavily on tracking motion very quickly with no overshoot or ghosting on the panel need this kind of motion clarity. As for the people hating on W-OLED specifically... Did you even watch the video? There's a new sub pixel layout that largely brings it up to "parity" (his words not mine) to qd OLED.
It costs a lot of money, which for most people makes it very important that it will last many years. And it probably won't last many years... There's always the feeling that if I do something "wrong" (that was never a problem with LCD) the image will be ruined.
@@Superdazzu2 again, watch the video. It has a decent brightness curve for most windowing sizes, and the color accuracy is excellent. "Color brightness" and talking about how much "colors pop" is a subjective estimation that is basically in your head. Look at the review. The colors are great and the HDR performance is very good. QD-OLED is fine and all, but the issues it has with color fringing because of the triangular sub-pixel layout are much worse to me.
@@MrFatpenguin I mean you're literally on the channel that's doing an OLED monitor torture test long term. Keep up with him. Again, the OLEDs of today have nowhere close to the issues they use to have
For woled look at rtings test. On normal usage (not trying to destroy the panel with full brightness and constant static elements) they last very long. For example, on an old LG CX I got to around 10000 hours without noticeable burn in. :) Also, if you have the monitor on 16 hours a day you'd get 960 hrs in 60 days, but nobody does numbers like that in reality. Fearmongers gonna fearmong.
@@Cuthalu I see what you are saying but the fact that I have to take precautions like that on a monitor is an auto no for me personally. I can safely assume that there are many people who will leave there PC on for a long time with static content and on full brightness (me being one of them) I don’t want to so called baby my monitor in order to make sure my screen will stay how it’s supposed to be I prefer for example the toolbar at the bottom of my screen and I browse a fair amount of time on my monitor. And I prefer full brightness (I have that with my current monitor for about 6 years now). I don’t want to think about taking care of my monitor like that. I just want to buy, setup the best settings, game and browse without any thinking about taking care of my monitor other than giving it a wipe from time to time But of course everybody’s use case is different but I personally don’t like that I would have to suddenly take care of my monitor with all these anti burn in settings and making sure I don’t have full brightness and static images on my screen for a long time and what not. But to each their own of course
Yep, think i'll go with the XG27AQDMG instead even though its only 240hz. I don't understand what the fascination with matte is, can they not just offer both?
i got the strix 240hz oled matte and the 360hz glossy, the difference isnt noticable in the dark but in the light the matte looks so much better, i way prefer matte just for this reason and wouldnt purchase a glossy as my main screen due to the visability being so poor in my light room. Strix's matte coating is really good and the glossy coating is not even pure glossy like a TV is
That "glossy" WOLEDs aren't actually glossy. Asus just added a glossy coating on top of the default existing semi matte coating and they market it as a glossy monitor.
@@owerpovered3330 it works though because it melts the top layer when applied or something like that if I am remembering it right. I just want more options though for everyone. The current "matte" coatings are more like semi matte while the current glossy qd OLED panels are more like semi-gloss compared to their TV counterparts
@@owerpovered3330 Yeah, i own the glossy and matte strix 240hz oled and the difference between them is honestly nothing LOL. i used to be in the same "i need glossy or not buying boat" but when i finally got the strix glossy i was like wtf was i thinking, the difference is hardly anything lol
@@Frigobar_Ranamelonico yes, and they are also bad for many other things, besides gaming (and not all gaming, as static UI-s can become a serious issue)
@@Frigobar_Ranamelonicothey are very good, in very specific use cases. For TVs it’s almost never an issue, but monitors are often used for more production related things. It’s why I can’t buy an OLED any time soon. Even before the price tag it’s just not an option that makes sense
@@punz7777 so get a basic LCD for work and then something good for media/gaming. Also we need to remember the focus of this channel is gaming so that's why we see this monitor
Could you review the LG C4 42" as a PC monitor? Would be interesting to see how it holds up compared to all these new OLED monitors with the new tests. I'm still using the C2 as a monitor and while I wish it was a bit brighter sometimes it still looks amazing in HDR gaming while still providing a great movie watching mode while using it as a smart TV where the brightness and accuracy is higher.
I feel that you are not nearly hard enough on VRR flicker. Adaptive sync is fundamentally compromised as a feature: in scenarios that it's ideal (variable frame rates significantly below hz) it's rendered unusable. I had to return my 360hz oled because I had a 60 hour headache. I was running quake at 250fps locked, and still had unusable flicker/eye strain. That's with sub-1ms frametime variance! No GPU/CPU purchase can reach better frame time variance than that in modern games like cs2
I have only flicker at the loading screens if you speak about Quake Champions. ingame it was fine with my Gigabyte FO32U2P. That one is 240hz though. So I'm not lower fps than refreshrate here.
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I support these insane monitors, because they will push down the prices of more pedestrian models.
I'm so stoked to see this in person, I've been chasing that clear motion like I remember crts having back in the day for years now.
Yes.. 480p 4:3 aspect ratio cathode at 30 fps.....good times. Moron.
Imho, what your oled monitor reviews lack is the hdr color brightness section, also show brightness for red, green, magenta, yellow etc when comparing woled to qd oleds
I agree
I mean people that buy this type of monitor don't really care about that it's made for eSports games mainly if you want to see does stuff watch a 4k qd oled review instead
@@XeqtrM1 if people don't care, they'd just buy an IPS panel and save a ton of money. The whole reason for OLED is HDR.
@@twiggsherman3641 Panel response time is also a major advantage. This thing looks better than any IPS panel and you know that, you sound ridiculous.
@@paulcox2447 obviously, it's an OLED. That's the point. Can you read?
why is it so hard for these manufacturers to just put in DP 2.1? like fr dude?
What concrete gains DP 2.1 offers?
@@anssiaatos 1440p @480hz is 63Gb bandwidth
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Alt tabbing on 1440p @480hz is cancer if you don't have enough bandwidth and have to use compression, some people literally get ~20 seconds
agreed, wont upgrade to anything less than 2.1, we all need to start embracing all this newer tech.. the new 50 series will have DP2.1 and gen5 plus gen5 ssd's, why have a bottleneck at the last second going to your monitor? ....it's time people
@edgars911 I have understood the compression is visually loseless? What the alt tabbing has to do with it?
lot of people discussing the crazy amount of HZ, im just glad there is an OLED with a better subpixel layout
right!
@@Landolakes420 had to return my samsung G60SD because of that terrible text fringing, it was unbearable, if i continue to hear good things about this monitors layout i might have to upgrade to it
me too, the subpixel format was what i was expecting, but it is 300€ more... ofc there are more perks included, but now i am torn between this and XG27AQDMG, imho 240hz should be more than enough even for competitive FPS as main use, unless you a pro i guess. damn hard choice
@@purfecto yeah you're probably right at least for me the 480hz is the least attractive part of this monitor..
@@purfectoI just got the DMG last month, the text never been an issue with me, the colors are good, 240Hz is amazing. The glossy is just stunning, I don’t think I’ll ever go to Matt again. The only thing that I dislike about the monitor is the “PWM” dimming or whatever the equivalent is for OLED Monitors, my eyes don’t notice it but it puts some strain to my eyes.
Back in the xbox 360 days people argued "You can't see more than 30 FPS" and now we're arguing if you can see 480hz 😂😂
Those people were high or coping hard tbh. First time playing on 144 Hz after only seeing 30 or 60 blew my mind. Gotta be honest, I've never had that feeling again. 240 Hz LCD and 360 Hz OLED both feel like very tiny jumps to me from 144-180 Hz compared to jumping from 60 to 144.
To me I can see "choppyness" up to around 180-200Hz
Past that it "feels" smoother. Like I can tell 240 from 360, but it just is clearer, less blurry, instead of less choppy
@@stefannita3439 I went from a 144hz lcd to a 240hz oled and did see a boost in clarity when moving and response
@@rileyhance318 I mostly noticed it stepping back down to 180 Hz LCD from 360 Hz OLED. But it only bothered me a little bit and for like 5 minutes, whereas I'm sure it would be much more unpleasant and would take me ages to get used to 60 again. I'm sure other people are much more sensitive tho
@@stefannita3439Same thing for me,from 60 to 144hz was a huge difference,but when I tried 240hz after 144hz I didn't felt to much difference.Now I have 240hz and I will stick for a while with this monitor.In games like CS2 with high fps support and Pro scene maybe 1 millisecond is important...but for me is not worth it at the launch price.
Love how it’s quickerto adjust the manufacturing of monitors than updating windows text render.
Lol so true. Like, how hard would it be to just add support in software? I'd guess very easy.
Microsoft is too busy counting all their money, I guess.
@@benjaminoechsli1941 it does feel like maybe 5 guys work on windows and the rest is just trying to sell their SaaS solutions and tie the economy to them.
Could you please include an "Excel test"? Open a sheet and fill a column with yellow. You will see that red and green vertical lines appear on the edges of the column, where black lines should be. This will help people who want to work and game on the same monitor to make a better choice, thank you.
You buying a 480hz monitor to use excel??? Lol
@@VeriStrawberi I want to be able to game and work on my monitor.
@@vladyslavkorenyak872 Hi, just did the test with the 27 aqdm (last year version of this monitor), not problem at all in Excel! :)
@@vladyslavkorenyak872 I work on pg27aqdm and this problem on text doesn't annoy me. Honestly, If I didn't see on review there s a problem on text clarity, perhaps I will never notify it !
Here in Finland there was a 50€ difference in price between this and 360hz MPG 271QRX QD-OLED, my money ended up going for this asus one😄
Did you use the -15% from Gigantti? I did not flex but😂
@@ToMMi808 naa was there that kinda thing🥲 msi was 1039€ and asus 1099 before the alv update😅
@@ToMMi808 where i can find it😂?
@@Hen.e It was one day offer on all Gigantti products. They usually come and go once a month maybe?
Same, got -15% discount on it so it ended up being 930€.
Now I've been gaming on 4k 240hz OLED don't think there's any going back but if i didn't get this monitor i have I'd definitely be buying this
Had the PG27AQDP for a week and it's awesome. Now sitting back to watch Monitors Unboxed review of this 480Hz 1440p gaming beast!
Is the matte coating okay?
@@jw3384 yes
Dear god 1440p 480Hz, and here i had 1440p 60hz, for seven years and only upgraded last year to 1440p 165hz xD
I'm still using 1920x1200 60Hz
@@World_of_OSes 1080p 60hz here :)
@@World_of_OSes Well i think at least 50% of users are still at 1080p
I have a 1440P 100 hz and a 1080P 180 hz.
Not sure if anything above 180 is really noticeable other than maybe highend competitive gaming.
But I am happy I got a high refresh, makes the experience more fun
Will soon upgrade to the dell 360hz 1440p 27" OLED from an LG 1080p 144hz. It's been 4 years since my set-up upgrade. Jumping from 1660S to 4070 as well. So it will be a great jump.
This is insane. But I'm happy with 4k 240hz and doubt I'll ever need more lol.
Very few games are optimized for 400-500 fps
4K 240hz? Dam, it uses DSC and 4:2:2?
These ultra high refresh rates are not for anything more than blur reduction and increased motion resolution. Having refresh rates of up to 1500 frames per second it's going to show benefit when you're talking about increasing the motion resolution the panel is capable of.
The unobtainium refresh rate is for those of us that Miss the motion handling that CRTs used to have LOL
@@pedro.alcatrano lol, dsc will be used yeah, you won't see a difference tbf, and it will be using rgb full 10bit
The biggest benefit is 240 Hz + BFI. That gives 480 Hz motion clarity at easier to drive FPS.
I cant wait for your PG27AQNR review. It’s the best compromise for productivity and gaming!
This is what I'm excited for as well. I want to pair it with the PG32UQX. PG32UQX for single-player and work. PG27AQNR for competitive gaming and as a side display for youtube and whatnot when I'm using the PG32UQX.
@@JuicyT72_ yeah, your future setup will be nice. I hope the AQNR does not need a fan too!
@@RoyHuang1 I agree. The fans can either be no problem or unbearable.
I disagree about the blanking length with BFI.
Yes, a shorter pules gives more clarity, but the monitor still needs to be usable. Even on my 120hz Samsung QLED TV it's just barely bright enough to be useful with BFI enabled.
Cutting brightness in half should be the industry standard for BFI, but in a perfect world yes these devices should be able to overdrive the pixels to 400% with a 1/8th frame pulse (still half brightness but I'm not asking for miracles).
Eh 250 nits is a lot, you can reduce it 2.5x and get a solid sdr image
Hopefully they release one with DP 2.1 next year, if so, that will be my next monitor for Deadlock and CS2.
10:00 that's the first time one can clearly see the 3 eyes of the alien and the pixels making up the ufo's ring. everything else even 360 hz smears them together
27:50 and as good as this monitor is, i'll get it but sell it immediately and buy a glossy equivalent whenever that comes out.
Why waste money on a glossy monitor?
Not only the eyes and rings but the text is also perfectly clear. Amazing stuff!
@@sammiller6631 because it looks much, much better than matte
The question is if you can actually see that difference in fast moving games, whether you play those, and whether your GPU can generate those 480 fps.
thank you tim love the reviews!!!!!!!!!!!!!
next years monitors are gonna be nuts with DP 2.1.
They don't have them now?
@@blava3155 only the 1 gigabyte model does.
What makes dp2.1 so special?
@@四as Not having multi second alt tab times on Nvidia GPUs.
@@四asDon’t need DSC to run high refresh rates
Will be helpful for consoles players to know the input lag details at 120 hz and 60 hz
The only thing that I feel is a big miss with this one is that it isn't a Gsync Pulsar monitor which would have made BFI+VRR to be used at the same time possible. I will buy day one the first 480 HZ OLED Gsync Pulsar monitor. 480HZ+BFI+VRR on OLED with 4X persistence improvement would give you CRT motion clarity on a flat panel which is my dream.
that and a glossy coating option, as well as dp 2.1
From what we know it's not possible on OLED.
@@gigantoad3261 Maybe for now, but never say never. For the longest time, we taught having Backlight Strobing+VRR simultaneously on any form of display was impossible and now it is. I can't see myself giving up OLED for Gsync Pulsar so I'll wait.
@@chrissoucy1997get both? 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
@@chrissoucy1997It's not possible with OLED because backlight strobing is something completely different from BFI. The names basically describe the difference, and then specifically G-Sync Pulsar works by controlling the pulse width of the backlight to a specific pattern in line with the frame times. So the length of the strobe doesn't have to match the render frametime directly, but it still stays in sync. You don't have a backlight to pulse separately from the refresh rate on OLED. Maybe you could implement VRR with BFI in some other way, the limitation is the timing requirements are very precise and you can end up with uneven framerates, but I think the better way to hit this level of motion clarity on OLEDs is by capping the framerate and using a linear lagless frame interpolation technique (so 120hz becomes 240/480, 120hz because with a high input you get a better quality output) because of VRR flicker and just the benefit of a perfectly smooth framerate (which you can try right now with AFMF or Lossless Scaling minus the lagless, it's already a good idea for framecapped retro games and this monitor)
Edit: and now I'm just yapping, but potentially a combination of frame interpolation and BFI could work around the VRR limitations. You can't have half frames but if you always run the display at native, then you can certainly display a render frame and an inserted frame at the same length as 2 half frames. I guess what I'm describing here is how some VR displays work already, but I wonder if they combine the 2 like I describe)
Going to wait for Gsync pulsar to take off before my next monitor upgrade.
I hope companies don't just abandon high end LCDs for OLED. I love my OLED TV but as a work from home software dev I can't have an OLED displaying static bars 10 hours a day.
Come back when microled will be a thing
You can, you just have to replace it on warranty
Just sell it and get a new oled once warranty is over
I don't think LCDs will ever be replaced by OLEDs because people will always have their preferences, LCDs will still be brighter than OLEDs for a while and they will constantly get better and better with more dimming zones to get similar black levels. Of course LCDs will never have the same motion clarity but some people probably don't notice that.
Get a mini led display
Great review Tim. Thank you.
No Display Port 2.1 in a $1000 monitor that you will be stuck with for the next ~5 years is insane! DSC can go to hell.
it's also now 3:1 DSC not 2:1 which is much more likely to have perceptible issues lmao
@KaledTV Actually laughable that the first consumer devices to support full uhbr20 display port 2.1 bandwidth are intel laptops. Both meteor lake and lunar lake support 80gbs display port 2.1 lmao.
AMD and nvidia are the real ones to blame for the lack of dp 2.1 on monitors because there's no point of monitor makers adding them. AMD didn't support the full amount and thus still needs dsc at 1440p 480hz while nvidia didn't at all so why add it to new monitors?
@@Frozoken They should add it to monitor because people upgrade their monitors less often than they do upgrade their GPUs, if next gen of GPUs offer DP 2.1 we will be stuck with DSC if we buy this one.
@KaledTV obviously they should but this is late stage capitalism we're talking about lmao. If its not an an immediate selling point it's getting canned
theres only like 1 gpu that has Dp2.1 and its not even the fastest GPU. DP2.1 is a meme, it doesnt matter.
Nothing beats the DWF in my heart
You know a monitor's good when it looks stunning even on video.
true, often real experience is alot different than what shown on videos, theyre expensive for a reason
Important to note that at the 10 bit colour mode on display port you're now at 3:1 display stream compression which is significantly more likely to have perceptible artefacts and issues in general so there's still an advantage to using hdmi here
My favorite monitor of all time lol and 27inches? Yes perfection!!
You might just wanna try 34" one.
I'm disappointed with the matt coating and no dp 2.1
@eugenijusdolgovas9278 naw I prefer 27 at 1440p 32 and up will be 4k for me. I like super high ppi aka pixel density. It really does effect Me when it's lower. My 55inch 4k matches the pixel density of a 1440p 32inch panel. So for me 27inch 1440p panel is the move for a monitor.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 why
@@luisnussbaum5892the coating is lovely, i own it. way prefer it over my alienware qd oled. way way better colours and more 3d effect . no more eye strain
I was thinking for you next best monitors line-up, I'd be very interested in what you'd recommend for people that want a high end gaming monitor (high refresh, good colors, maybe HDR), but also use it for work.
I think a lot of people that can actually afford these 1000$+ gaming monitors also regularly use it for work when they work from home. So then OLED burn in protection features, USB-c input, KVM switches, and perhaps even DP-out options for such monitors are actually pretty important as well. I wonder what you would recommend keeping those requirements in mind!
I returned the 4K 32 inch 480hz LG due to lower brightness/uncertainty and I slightly regret it. Was a very good monitor. 480hz is AT LEAST twice as good as 240hz imo, not due to response time or latency but motion clarity. The difference it makes for a eSports title player like me in Overwatch is breathtaking. I expected the picture quality to be the bigger upgrade from my Samsung G7 Odyssey QHD240hz but the motion clarity was actually more impactful. But I want to wait for a monitor that is a little bit better or for the prices to go down and get an even better sale than the one I originally got so I ended up returning it.
This is another big option I am considering but I am so used to 32 inches now even as someone that loves playing a lot of eSports titles too. 4k is addictive too and my 3080 did pretty well with it but stuff like Halo Infinite was not great. This having qhd instead of 1080p for that mode is enticing too
Development didn’t stop, displays get better. You’ll be entering the market later, is how I think about it.
Trying out QD-OLED and WOLED recently, SDR brightness was not good enough for me too. QD’s color fringing I found irritating, as if I had bad glasses with chromatic abberation; and white was just not white. Always a bit pink.
@@EditioCastigata like the way you put it. I am curious how long it will be until more 32 inch WOLEDs will come out.
Yeah the magenta tint on QD-OLEDs is definitely noticeable to me too. I was going into Best Buy to look at them. I lean towards WOLEDs due to that and the 480hz motion clarity but want both to be brighter. I think the Switch OLEDs 343 nits is a good minimum to target for uniform brightness. The Steam Deck OLEDs 600-1000 nits and my S22 Ultra's 1200-1750 nits are godly and definitely show me the potential for how hard they can push someday.
I'm going from a MAG27CQ (1440p 144hz VA panel from 2018) to the PG27AQDP as a cs player. Motion clarity difference is going to be a crazy upgrade.
Sony released the Inzone M10S 27" 1440p 480 HZ OLED. Looking forward to your review on it to see how it compares to the PG27AQDP.
"FOR THOSE WHO DARE" (to have tacky writing on the back on their monitors). The new WOLED subpixel layout is better, but not a complete solution. Burn-in and VRR flicker remain issues. Still waiting for a better OLED solution before I'll switch to that technology.
Keep waiting then.
@@LordAngelus Thanks for giving me permission. I needed that.
@@coolcat23 You're welcome sonny.
While the price is a frick ton of money but if we keep waiting and waiting, then once you are about to buy a new monitor, there will be leaks and rumors about the new best monitor imaginable, so you will keep on waiting and be sitting on your 60Hz for decades. ☹️
@@iwantum First, I don't have a 60Hz monitor, I have a 240Hz monitor. Second, I never said I wanted the "best monitor", I just pointed out weaknesses that I'll never accept in a monitor.
oh boys how I have been waiting for this review
wouldnt putting dp 2.1 on the monitor fix the issue regarding dsc? why wouldnt they just do that?
if you want completely eliminate DSC, you need DP 2.1 with 80Gbit/s link (what is called UHBR 20), there are limitations for such speeds with cables currently reaching about 1.2 meters max, and support from GPUs is non existent other than some professional level AMD cards, plus DP 2.1 scalars are not cheap. So there are good reason why not bother right now with DP 2.1 - in several years, sure there will be better compatibility with cables and GPUs, but right now - it is useless. When DP 2.1 will be more mainstream we will see more monitors with it.
Read TFT Central's article regarding dp it will make sense
@@eliadbu dont AMD rx 7000 come with display port 2.1? Thats what it says on spec sheets
@@jshico3417
This why I emphasized supporting UHBR 20 link. Displayport 2.1 has 3 flavors UHBR 10, UHBR 13.5 and UHBR 20.
RX 7700XT comes with the DP 2.1 but only UHBR 13.5 (about 52 Gbit/s effective bandwidth) which isn't enough for 1440p@480Hz uncompressed, but it is close at around 452Hz for max refresh rate at 8 bit, at 10bit it drops to 378Hz.
@@eliadbu if 8 bit 1440p 240hz takes 24Gbit/s shouldn't 52 Gbit be enough for 480hz? Where's the overhead coming from?
I come here and instantly think black ops 4 logo. Drawstrings get me every time.
nice monitor but i'm saddened ASUS (and everybody else too) refuses to experiment with "per pixel row" BFI which should be 100% achievable with self-emissive pixels like OLED and would give us 480Hz with BFI on since every other row of pixels would flash to black while the other stays on
Normally this would be my ultimate monitor, but no, G-Sync Pulsar is now just around the corner. I want this exact monitor with that feature.
hows the flicker?
How's your dog?
@@shortshins how’s your fentanyl?
how are your farts?
@mrsisig7443 flickery
Chill pls
Just bought a 240Hz 4K 32” OLED monitor for my RTX 4090.
I can only barely see the difference between 144Hz and 240Hz when two monitors are side by side. I don’t think I could notice any difference with 480Hz. 1440p->4K on the other hand is very noticeable for me. Both setups require similar GPU performance (2x pixels vs 2x frames). It was a super easy choice for me.
I of course understand that professional gamers would pick this 480Hz monitor instead.
Are we likely to see 480hz OLED with a glossy panel in the next year or so? That's my only hang up on purchasing this monitor.
exactly! it's pretty much the ultimate gaming monitor for me, due to ELMB but i have a matte and a glossy monitor here side by side and the difference is clearly visible.
@@ying2837 also very disappointed, might buy the asus qd oled thats releasing soon. i know it's not a new panel and 120hz less, but it got a glossy coating and better colors
@@pirx9798 wym?
We could see a 480hz OLED with the new g-sync module and a glossy panel on top of a matte panel just like XG27AQDMG, but with this logic there will be better monitors on 2026 and there will be even better monitors on 2027 so you could just wait. The "glossy" WOLED panels aren't glossy either, they just have an extra glossy coating on top of the semi-matte coating to market it like it's pure glossy.
@@owerpovered3330 the company that does them glossy woleds is the scammiest monitor company anyways
Thanks just ordered mine
How mine was I too late and it was sold out :(?
@@ricebowl14-cm4pj is it already sold out on the ASUS website? I just ordered when I saw them announce it on Twitter
This is perfect for lossless scaling x4. It was made for this.
I wish we had DLSS 3 on a driver level like AFMF 2.
sure if u want ghosting and aritifacts
@@141menace You got it wrong. You won't see many of those at a high base frame like 120. If you've been using it at 30, yeah you'll see some, still not a lot btw. The fking thing learns quick.
@@owerpovered3330 You know I'd still use this until DLSS 3 gives me x3- x4 fps? Lowering power consumption by half is just great. Turns your 2080 Ti into 3090 Ti.
@@TillTheLightTakesUs even at 120 base framerate x4 still has ghosting and artifacts, x2 is way better.
I am still waiting for a 27" 4K 240Hz, but this one is also very good. Thumbs up!
same
the refresh rate can go as high as they want if the issued are not adressed. what we need is dp2.1 support, better hdr infrastructure, better windows text rendering.vrr flicker needs to be adressed
I dont think just increasing the
At least they are acknowledging it now but I've been complaining to LG for a year now. I cannot enable VRR in Rocket league since going into any menu or even opening the scoreboard it flickers and my eyes fatigue much quicker to the point of headaches.
This is not QoL anymore this is a health issue for me.
I just deal with the tearline now but I really shouldn't have to. I should be able to set a VRR range manually.
Rtings compares VRR flicker on different OLED monitors. Asus does the best job with it.
HDR indeed leaves much to be desired if I compare it with our LG G3 TV lol
Also the G3 seems to have a more glossy panel than the monitors. it pops out more.
I won't buy a high refresh rate monitor like this until there is a glossy option available.
Beautiful monitor spec wise, but dogshit aesthetics. That big "FOR THOSE WHO DARE" line on the back and all the RGB just kills it. Wish there was more stuff with amazing specs that didn't look so lame.
I mean, knowing their consumer support it really is only for those who dare...
Yeah, also the stand is terrible (prevents good keyboard placement) and the white bezel looks quite distracting.
Holy! What I was waiting for!
would love a 32" 2k oled monitor "old eyes" 🤣
32 inch sucks, if u like 32inch just go 4k
me also, dont like buy 4k yet, but 27 is too small for me, have 32inch monitor, but like the same in with OLED technology. have not the young eyes like you lol
Amazing quality review as always thanks Tim! I’d like to see a review on the new Samsung Odyssey G6 OLED (G60SD).
Meanwhile ACER just released 3 new monitors, Acer Nitro XV240 F6, XV270U F5, & XV270 F5, F6 can do 600hz at 1080p, and the others can do 520hz at 1440p and the other one at 1080p. XV240F6 at 600$, F5XV270 at 800$ and F5XV270 at 600$.
That XV270U F5 500Hz QHD screen is the only interesting one out of those 3. That XV240 F6 24'' is a TN, and Acer already made a 540Hz 24'' TN monitor last year. I'm not sure why they bothered making that one. That XV270 is a garbage 27'' 1080p screen. Only an idiot would buy that.
i ended up getting the: Asus XG27AQDMG, that glossy finish just hit the spot :)
I own that one and the "matte" 240hz one, the difference between the strix matte and glossy is absolutely nothing lol, except in the light the matte looks way better the 480hz matte is way worth it over 240hz "glossy", asus dont use real glossy anyway like a TV does, the newer matte coatings are just so much better compared to the typical IPS matte coatings, that its not worth going glossy due to the loss of visability in light.
All I want is a 27" 4K 240 Glossy WOLED
Agreed, with usbc added, my perfect monitor would either be this or a 4k 240 34” ultra wide with 1440p 480 dual mode, usbc and dp 2.1
Nah. Believe me 27" 4K is just not ideal with pixel density at normal viewing distance. I've such a Monitor and I regret not chosing the 32" 4K instead....
@@nKrandom I personally want a glossy 4k 480hz woled with much better color brightness
@@willwunsche6940 pointless, you will never get 480 fps on 4k
@@Snxgur I got 4k480 on my 3080 😅 in games like Overwatch which is my main game. Not every popular game is hard to run. By the time 4k480hz monitors will be coming out the 5080 50 series and AMDs equivalents will probably be coming out
Since no one else is saying it I will. OLED with a matte finish is a waste of money. The gloss screen basically gives you retna level display. I can’t imagine why these companies keep doing this.
God I hate that stand lol.
Weird that they went back to that giant stand instead of sticking with the newer pedestal style stand they're using on the glossy WOLED and some of their other monitors.
4K 27" 480hz OLED will be endgame
With most games it’ll be so many years before 4K can hit 480hz.
Yeah and 4k on 27 inches has no real interest, the difference with 1440p is barely noticeable on that screen size.
4K at 27" is dumb.
@Rehtenether disagree. I run 2k 27 and I can see pixelation a lot of the time. There's a reason I said endgame...
No it wont since theyll just do 1080p at 2ghz refresh rate
just found out that we have a monitor unboxed channel too 😅 i thought we only have hardware Unboxed till now
Optimum's gonna love this one
He prefers 24" 1080p monitors, just like any sensible FPS enthusiast.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278FPS enthusiast? Oh.. you mean man children.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 You can put the 27" in a distance that equals the effective viewing size of 24", so you'll end up with sharper image and better versatility for desktop placement. Personally 24" requires face to be quite close to the monitor so 27" helps with ergonomics.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 no
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278he doesn’t and this monitor has the 24/24.5 inch mode.
I'm waiting for that MicroLED ultrawide. Someday...
Why can't Asus just make a flat base instead of these stupid tripods.
XG27ACDNG releasing soon, 360hz QD-OLED with a square/flat base.
Lovely review, would you just say this is THE screen to go for if im getting one now for competetive gaming? cheers! Mainly shooters like cs2 etc
Waiting on the 27" 4k gsync pulsar monitor.
4k will never be at 27inch anymore unfort
@@Snxgur that hair dye is killing a few brain cells I see.
I was interested but I couldn’t wait, took to long
Still don't trust ASUS to honor their warranty.
the only reason why im deciding if i still wanna buy this,
Where's your samsung Odyssey g6 360hz review? Its been out a while now?
Since I am not one of the suckers that instantly cough up the now standard $1K price requirement companies have for everything, this is a pass. Will wait for the 850hz OLEDs, that will be clearly faster and better, with the added benefit of AI that can handle your Asus warranty claims.
companies are gonna have AI handling warranty claims too, imagine how many kWh are going to be used making AI talk to eachother lol
Finally, I was waiting for this one :)
now waiting for 4k 480hz
You're never gonna get 4k 480fps consistently. Ain't ever happening without competitive settings and on very few games.
Valorant 1% dips to 300 at 4k with 4090. You can be sure that 6090 will dip to at least 360 even with all it's power.
CS2 dips to 200
Apex Legends only supports up to 190fps and 240 effective FPS.
Warzone dips to 80s and 50s 0.1%
RB6 and OW2 are the only 2 games that can keep 400+fps with 4090 at 4k competitive settings.
4k 480 or 540hz will be really hard to master and it has to be 2k+ for 1 panel + 1k for brand naming.
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 4k 480hz is possible right now on any released 4k oled, its just matter of using dp 2.1 but yea they will prob overprice it. Also frame generation, 480hz is just to have versatility on panel so you can play any game on it basically ( ideally would be 8k which can switch to 4k 480hz so you basically have 10 year futureproof).
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 i play a game competitivly called bannerlord and u can get 400fps consistantly in 4k no problem
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278 the TCL 4k@1000hz gonna have to wait for the 9090ti
@@eugenijusdolgovas9278Never say never lol. Especially since monitors are progressing really quickly on the refresh rate front. When I built my first PC (only 6 and a half years ago) the fastest monitors were 1080p 240hz. Now we're watching a review for a 1440p 480hz monitor. 4K 480hz is definitely happening at some point even if it's not exactly practical with current GPU tech.
Will you be making a video on the recently released XG27ACDNG?
why did they have to name this to cause so much confusion
there's a version that's supposedly the same, but with M instead of P at the end and it's just 240hz but with a supposedly older panel
The PG27AQDM is a WOLED, too. It just has the older LG panel with the RWBG sub-pixel layout.
@@mamuf sorry didn't notice
For example i do own the PG258Q from 2017 (240Hz) but now there is the PG248QP (540Hz) with a lower number and the letter P.
Usually the higher the number, the better the product but Asus is going downwards with their naming scheme.
@@iwantum The first two digits, i.e., the 25, 24 (or 27, 32 in other model numbers) are the display size in inches. They have nothing to do with the display tech, generation, etc. It's quite the norm for most monitor makers to put the display size in the name like that.
@@mamuf That is good to know, thanks.
I was out of the loop with monitors but after 7 years it is finally time to take a look at them new inventions.
That logo thing is the only rgb I think is cool
It’s like a puddle light
Onl 71.6% Rec 2020? That sounds quite low. Doesn't this make the colors less vibrant than even some budget/mid range IPS/VA monitors?
Yes.. for colors QD-OLED is much better
Bro, almost zero content use any colors over regular DCI-P3 color gamut anyway. You will almost for sure be running it calibrated to that.
Sure wider is better for future proofing. But as I said there does not seem to be any push yet for any format or content that even use the Rec 2020. First the color grading monitors need to all get to full or close REC 2020 so they can even master content for it. And we are unfortunately still far away form that even.
@@cajampa Content has nothing to do with that
Your display can show its whole color gamut on SRGB content too. That's how most people run their monitor, because the colors look more vibrant
What do you think why a QD OLED monitor looks more vibrant than a TN panel that has 100% SRGB coverage?
@@Violet-ui LOL sure buddy. It looks "more vibrant".
Either you show the content how it is designed to be shown or you are wrong. It is quite simple.
But you do you.
You are new at thinking about these things. And you are so confidently wrong I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you how it really works. It is like they say you are "Not even wrong".
@@cajampa you personally, are you currently running an SRGB clamp on your phone or laptop? you tell me
Damn you should do this with budget monitors too
This thing is equivalent to 1270 usd here in Romania. Gotta love those import taxes
Us prices does not include sales tax and in my state with that included, it's $1100 so not that far off
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br Huh, never knew that. It's like they tease you with a lower price before you actually purchase the item lol
@@zer0366 yeah but we live with it 😂 so $1000 feels like the $1100 price tag to us. Not really a surprise. Little bit of an odd system but it allows people in the state/the state pick how much they want the tax to be/how they want it to work. Like for us Michiganders it's 6% but our grocery store food/medicine isn't taxed
In 10 years when I'm running CS4 at 1200 FPS, I hope this monitor will still hold up.
OLED's are the cololest things that I will never own myself lol. I simply cannot risk burning in a display that costs this much.
Would you consider one if it was half that price?
these reviews need to start talking about PWM dimming and flicker on oleds because of PWM dimming
I need a 4K LCD for productivity but I love high refresh rate .. does that even exist ?
Like 4K 240hz+ non OLED ?
I have not heard of it to be hones though a 27 inch IPS (mini LED) is rumored to come from LG.
yeah, like 160hz is the best you can get on 4k ips rn
In the same boat tbh. Gotta make music, so I need those response times!
the only 4k 240hz that i know is samsung odessey g8 or something like that, but problem is its curved
just buy 2 monitors
I hope this new pixel layout trickles down to cheaper, lower refreshrate OLED 1440p monitors
10:39 is why nvidia created gsync pulsar
So far it's unclear how they're going to get it to work on oleds. The blogpost is all about backlight and voltage control for lcds. They'd have to do everything from scratch for oleds
gsync pulsar as it's currently described by nvidia isn't going to help oled monitors in any meaningful way.
I feel like VRR flicker should be mentioned, it's a big issue that makes using VRR often a worse experience than leaving it off. I just tested anti-flicker on the PG27AQDP and it seems to take a higher multiple of the framerate, so e.g. a 100 FPS would result in 200 or 300 Hz. Ironically, though, it causes even more noticeable flicker than when anti-flicker is disabled.
RIP LCD high refresh rate monitors. They got better life span but they're vastly inferior.
IPS were way too slow with their pixel response times to even do high refresh. They tried to improve it with "overdrive" option but that just makes them do ghosting even more.
buying an LCD/IPS in 2024 is just throwing your money in the trash
oh hi is this Savage Tim?
Genuinely don't understand that hate for this.
I get some people are scared of OLED burn-in, but that's largely not even a medium term issue these days.
As for those that can't understand the need for 480hz or higher frame rates.... It's simple. Games that rely heavily on tracking motion very quickly with no overshoot or ghosting on the panel need this kind of motion clarity.
As for the people hating on W-OLED specifically... Did you even watch the video? There's a new sub pixel layout that largely brings it up to "parity" (his words not mine) to qd OLED.
It's simple, color brightness on qd oleds is 2x + times better than woled, colors just pop more
@@Superdazzu2colors are cool, but that’s not the reason this thing exist.
It costs a lot of money, which for most people makes it very important that it will last many years.
And it probably won't last many years... There's always the feeling that if I do something "wrong" (that was never a problem with LCD) the image will be ruined.
@@Superdazzu2 again, watch the video. It has a decent brightness curve for most windowing sizes, and the color accuracy is excellent. "Color brightness" and talking about how much "colors pop" is a subjective estimation that is basically in your head. Look at the review. The colors are great and the HDR performance is very good.
QD-OLED is fine and all, but the issues it has with color fringing because of the triangular sub-pixel layout are much worse to me.
@@MrFatpenguin I mean you're literally on the channel that's doing an OLED monitor torture test long term. Keep up with him.
Again, the OLEDs of today have nowhere close to the issues they use to have
Any idea when this monitor will be available for pre order at least? I’ve been waiting for this monitor all year, I need this in my life 😢
3 year burn in warranty?
600-1000 hours of mostly static content (depending on brightness) is enough for permanent burn in.
i reach that in 60 days.
It's ASUS warranty mate... 😅
With OLED monitors I feel like every monitor needs to have 5 year burn in warranty minimum
For woled look at rtings test. On normal usage (not trying to destroy the panel with full brightness and constant static elements) they last very long. For example, on an old LG CX I got to around 10000 hours without noticeable burn in. :) Also, if you have the monitor on 16 hours a day you'd get 960 hrs in 60 days, but nobody does numbers like that in reality. Fearmongers gonna fearmong.
@@Cuthalu I see what you are saying but the fact that I have to take precautions like that on a monitor is an auto no for me personally. I can safely assume that there are many people who will leave there PC on for a long time with static content and on full brightness (me being one of them) I don’t want to so called baby my monitor in order to make sure my screen will stay how it’s supposed to be
I prefer for example the toolbar at the bottom of my screen and I browse a fair amount of time on my monitor. And I prefer full brightness (I have that with my current monitor for about 6 years now). I don’t want to think about taking care of my monitor like that. I just want to buy, setup the best settings, game and browse without any thinking about taking care of my monitor other than giving it a wipe from time to time
But of course everybody’s use case is different but I personally don’t like that I would have to suddenly take care of my monitor with all these anti burn in settings and making sure I don’t have full brightness and static images on my screen for a long time and what not. But to each their own of course
there’s plenty of burn in prevention features on these 2024 monitors.
Is it worthwhile to pickup the last model?
nah, save for the 480hz is way better
Matte coating is such a huge fail on this.
Why 240hz is max in my settings, 480 not available on gtx 1070?
This looked great until you said it only came in matte. Unforced error from Asus.
Not an error, matte is preferred
Yep, think i'll go with the XG27AQDMG instead even though its only 240hz. I don't understand what the fascination with matte is, can they not just offer both?
LG Display make the panel.
i got the strix 240hz oled matte and the 360hz glossy, the difference isnt noticable in the dark but in the light the matte looks so much better, i way prefer matte just for this reason and wouldnt purchase a glossy as my main screen due to the visability being so poor in my light room. Strix's matte coating is really good and the glossy coating is not even pure glossy like a TV is
I wonder how long it will be until we get more glossy WOLEDs as an option for people who prefer it
That "glossy" WOLEDs aren't actually glossy. Asus just added a glossy coating on top of the default existing semi matte coating and they market it as a glossy monitor.
@@owerpovered3330 it works though because it melts the top layer when applied or something like that if I am remembering it right. I just want more options though for everyone. The current "matte" coatings are more like semi matte while the current glossy qd OLED panels are more like semi-gloss compared to their TV counterparts
@@owerpovered3330 Yeah, i own the glossy and matte strix 240hz oled and the difference between them is honestly nothing LOL. i used to be in the same "i need glossy or not buying boat" but when i finally got the strix glossy i was like wtf was i thinking, the difference is hardly anything lol
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grow up
@@philistine3260 Shut it, he earned it
Damn 31 minutes and I'm gonna sit through it all.
Constipated?
Why only OLEDs :(
Cause they're good?
@@Frigobar_Ranamelonico yes, and they are also bad for many other things, besides gaming (and not all gaming, as static UI-s can become a serious issue)
Don't complain, a few years ago you were all saying that we need to move on from lcds...
@@Frigobar_Ranamelonicothey are very good, in very specific use cases. For TVs it’s almost never an issue, but monitors are often used for more production related things. It’s why I can’t buy an OLED any time soon. Even before the price tag it’s just not an option that makes sense
@@punz7777 so get a basic LCD for work and then something good for media/gaming.
Also we need to remember the focus of this channel is gaming so that's why we see this monitor
Im happy with my old Viewsonic IPS 60Hz 1440p panel. More than enough for my RTX 2070. With this prices it seems this are very niche products.
Should i always use VRR enabled and what does it change? I play mostly FPS games competitive.
Could you review the LG C4 42" as a PC monitor? Would be interesting to see how it holds up compared to all these new OLED monitors with the new tests.
I'm still using the C2 as a monitor and while I wish it was a bit brighter sometimes it still looks amazing in HDR gaming while still providing a great movie watching mode while using it as a smart TV where the brightness and accuracy is higher.
Please give a review on the new PHILIPS Evnia 27M2N8500.
I feel that you are not nearly hard enough on VRR flicker. Adaptive sync is fundamentally compromised as a feature: in scenarios that it's ideal (variable frame rates significantly below hz) it's rendered unusable. I had to return my 360hz oled because I had a 60 hour headache. I was running quake at 250fps locked, and still had unusable flicker/eye strain. That's with sub-1ms frametime variance! No GPU/CPU purchase can reach better frame time variance than that in modern games like cs2
Additionally, shrinking the refresh range helps with menu flicker, but does not address flicker seen in normal gameplay
I have only flicker at the loading screens if you speak about Quake Champions. ingame it was fine with my Gigabyte FO32U2P. That one is 240hz though. So I'm not lower fps than refreshrate here.