80lb Mathews Lift 33 vs Hoyt Alpha X 33 | Bow Review
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The battle of the Mathews Lift 33 vs Hoyt Alpha X 33 in 80lbs. How do each of the bows perform and what kind of speeds is the Mathews putting out vs the Hoyt?
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4 pounds holding weight for the hoyt that makes no sense that's like a 95% holding weight
It makes perfect sense...with 85% letoff and a 27# draw
The alpha X at 80 lbs is on easy mode. Love the draw cycle on the Hoyt. Mathews draw cycle at 70 felt worse than the Hoyt at 80. Bought the alpha x so obviously my bias leaned that way.
I just spent about 2 hours at the local bow shop deciding between these two!!! Hoyte drew and shot like a dream The mathews was lighter, faster, and quieter. In my opinion the mathews makes a better hunting bow for my uses. I went with the mathews...that being said I still dream about that hoyte!
Hope you end up owning the Hoyt too.
Holding weight on hoyt is like 95% with those numbers
I hate the Lift, ive shot it multiple times. I don't want my cams behaving like they "want to go", I want them to chill while I'm holding. Very uncomfortable bow in my opinion. After you shoot, the bow feels like it lunges forward in your hands. I could care less about a few FPS differences, those are just symantics bowhunters talk about because were bored. In the grand scheme of things, its means nothing, deer and elk will still die.
Very true ! Glad someone said it.
I thought the same thing, that “lunging” forward or whatever you want to call it is the whole reason I left with the Hoyt. I really wanted to like the Lift
That holding weight seems a bit low for that Hoyt… might need to check that again.
Yeah! No math wiz here but 4lb of 80lb draw weight is 5%!!! IE 95 % let-off😂
Checked it multiple times 🤷🏻♂️
@@extremeoutfitters seems crazy low for 80 at 85. Love that y’all are doing comparison reviews of different bows at higher poundage’s.
Haha We thought so as well! Really appreciate you checking us out!
You had the Dummy checking that one.
I shoot a 80# 80% lift 29.5 I love the back wall for me it keeps me honest on the pull through great video though all good info
Have you had any issues with the limbs cracking ?
@@tylersmith2827 yes had all my limbs replaced a few weeks ago and my buddy had all his lowers replaced both 80# 29.5 lifts
Honest question, what's the benefit of an 80lb bow over a 70lb. Heavier arrows at the same speed, but maintain speed down range?
With the updated bows 80lbs is the old 70lb draw. Is it needed for hunting purposes? Probably not, but it couldn’t hurt, unless it hurts someone to pull it back consistently and holding it for extended time. That being said shoot what you can consistently and accurately. Lighter bows have gotten the job done for many years. That being said I shoot a Hoyt set at 78 lbs and it draws smooth as any 70lb bow I have had before it(RX8 Ultra). Its extra poundage may not be needed but I enjoy the flat arrow trajectory, and ability to shoot further. It gives me a little more confidence knowing it will be packing a little extra power without sacrificing a major draw cycle. Get them set up properly and try them out if you can, it sure surprised the heck out of me. 70lbs felt like 60lbs. I was blown away.( 78 lb RX8 ultra shooting a 450 grain arrow got it done this year on a big bodied elk, but a well placed shot and a tuned bow will usually do that just as well!)
As a disabled veteran, I need comfort vs blazing speed due to multiple spine surgeries and nerve damage. However, I feel Hoyt just set the new standard in how a bow should pull and hold, but still have speed. The alpha X is the smoothest bow I have ever shot. I pulled 70lbs back at 29”, which I thought would be impossible at this point in my life. I had trouble with the Mathews. I am no fan boy. Fan boys miss out on new engineering breakthroughs from other companies, so shoot them all. With that being said, I could pull the hoyt, hold the pin on target, which can be difficult for me, and execute an accurate shot. I don’t want to trash Mathews, but this has been a tough year for them. So, I highly recommend finding a Hoyt with the HBX XaCT system and see for yourself. Good luck to everyone this season.!
Holding weight on the Hoyt 4.1…… that doesn’t sound right
That’s what I was thinking. Isn’t it just a function of math? 80*.15 for the holding weight
It’s wrong or something is wrong
Great video guys, like others I'm not understanding the holding weight versus let off. The Mathews does seem to want to creep out of the holding weight. 80lbs with 85% letoff.. if the hoyt is the same how can the hoyt be only 4.1 holding weight? Just trying to understand, I would be very interested in trying the hoyt if the holding weight is that low with that speed. Thanks for the content!
I never trust the holding weight of those hand scales... they often read the holding weight lower than reality. The Hoyt was low at 4#, that's like a 95% let off! It was probably more like 12# in reality. When it comes to Mathews, it really matters what weight mods you use when it comes to the feel and valley.
🙏 🙏 keep it up guys. Perfect arrow weights to give us a good idea. We need these 80 lbs videos guys. Perfect!
Those numbers on the heavy arrow seems slow at 30 inch draw. I’m shooting a PSE levitate with the S2 cams at 27.5 at 75# and at 500 grains, I’m getting 280fps.
I have the lift 33 and I shot the hoyt and I have to say the lift checked all the boxes and was super comfy in the hand. And it helps that it's faster to which we all want more speed if possible.
I got the lift 33 over the hoyt due to the weight, but there's no denying what you're saying - The hoyt has the best draw cycle I've ever felt.
After lusting after top end Hoyts for the last 10 years (but owning a couple lower cost PSEs), I was ready to buy an Alpha X this year when they came out. Then I shot it and the Matthews Lift 33 and now I own the Matthews. The Alpha X sits really hard against my thumb knuckle to the point of being uncomfortable. 9 shots and it was actually sore. The Matthews is lighter and fits my hand. Of course that meant I had to get new cases, but so be it.
Call firenock and get titanium bolts and screws and drop the weight on the Hoyt. But in my opinion I rather have a little more forgiveness as a hunter in my set up so I would choose the Hoyt between these two
Test them at 50lbs
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬Matthew’s can suck it. Just got my bow Monday, Aug 12 2024 and the limbs are cracked already 16 Aug 2024z. It’s gonna be weeks according to my local bow shop. Warranty or not, this is bs and everyone should get a refund and not have to wait weeks to get their bow back because they’re gonna miss hunting time. If I would have known, I wouldn’t have got it.
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Thanks for the video guys
That’s unfortunate! Any issues we’ve had with cracked limbs Mathews has got us taken care of in a couple of days! They’ve been good with warranty issues. Sorry to hear this!
I wonder how the speeds would be at the same letoff. It's probably more comparable. Hum..
That's exactly the same speed I got out of my RX8 @ 80lbs with 528gn arrow but at 29"DL.
I shot the prime Ronan phase 4 33 lift 29 and Alfa x 30 I left with the phase 4 kinda wish I went with the prime or the lift Alfa x was horrible in my opinion felt like a toy..
I'll stick with my Bear Alaskan XT 33.
I’m not a fan of Hoyt’s they never won me over but they are probably the best made now out there. I want to love them but haven’t found one yet I love.
4lbs. Holding weight on the Hoyt????!
I’m getting back into archery after a 20+ year hiatus. Any recommendations on a quality bow that isn’t really expensive ?
I shot different brand mid tier bows. And I settled on the bear whitetail maxx. It checked all my boxes and my wallet was happy.
Nothing beats the draw cycle of the hoyt. Doesn't matter what poundage it feels 20lbs lighter.
PSE EC2 cams beat hoyt draw cycle all day.
Ive had alot of bows. But must say loved the hoyts wish never sold
14.1 he meant
Holding weight on the Hoyt can’t be correct.
PSE next question
Vtm is faster than the alpha x . I said what I said
Did I hear that right? 95% LE for the hoyt?
It was 85% for both bows
@mattgipe84 claimed, but mathematically he was only holding 5%. Something definitely off with the numbers. If that was so, a true 85%LE on the hoyt would smoke the mathews
Would love to see those 2 bows at 28” DL like you guys normally do.
Heyyyyyyy...
It's the little guy!!!!!
Wheres his handbag?????
I’ll stick with my 80# omen😂 at 29” draw it still beats both of these, 458gr arrow going 317fps. Good job boys keep it up.
That bow pounds!
Why even produce a video like this when you basically state they are the same? Waste of time.
For you to whine and complain. Why else
Did you really just compare two different bows at two different draw lengths?
Thank goodness mfjj is doing reviews. Just to show the difference draw length makes. My alpha 33 at 82.5lbs and 31.5 draw I'm pushing a 460 333fps
2 different draw lengths? We shot them both at 30”
No, they didn’t. They did both at 30” with 2 different arrow weights for each
😅 also mfjj is either paid by Mathews or some kind of kick back, he rags on the hoyts hard for the same stuff he looks the other way on Mathews for. Just what I’ve seen on his reviews. They’re both great bows imo.
I see why they only have 12k subs. Literally they do not know what they're talking about. it's 2024 guys....... Get your facts straight. Yikes
What did we misspeak on?