Softube Weiss Compressor/Limiter
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Softube says they have faithfully recreated the famous Weiss compressor/limiter. But is this really the case? Or is it just snake oil?
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Hey. George here from Softube :) I wrote the text on the product page, and I’m delighted that my evil plan to make you stutter slightly was successful!!
Thanks for making a great video about the Weiss. I have to say I agree with you - it’s nothing if not complicated. And the Compressor/Limiter is not even the most complex in the range. We also made a plug-in directly emulating the hardware, with all its god mode crazy-complicated controls and sub-menus. But all our Weiss products contain the original algorithms (it’s a code-port as you described) so absolutely sound as the “real thing”.
For a far more user-friendly take on the Weiss sound, see the MM-1 Mastering Maximizer - that is a super-easy way to get that transparent Weiss limiting and loudness-potential on the master bus without losing your inspiration in the process. I use that one way more than the others to be honest (although they’re all great at what they do, of course).
Keep up the good work!
/George
p.s. I didn’t write the manual
p.p.s. We’re working on improvements to our installation etc. process
p.p.p.s. We just hired our first Dutch person
SoftubeStudios You guys make incredible plugins!
So....did you send him a Console1?
You need to read my method of using this plugin above. Makes insanity less intense.
SoftubeStudios this is amazing! Haha
great work i own almost all of your plugs
Can you review Voxengo CRTIV TapeBus plugin, please?
0.02ms=20µs! not 2µs!
"It's compressing, it's compressing. I don't hear it compressing. I guess it's really transparent." 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥
I thought I was the only who laughed at that. 😂
😂
S Y N O N Y M O U S
Good Artist Name
@@Igotthatjizz Hehe, ty ;) I have a rabbit, so that's where the name came from.
@@R3BBiT I think he meant the word "synonymous"
Softube, please send him one! (Console 1)
Good video, would you like to make a video of the Softube Tape & CL1B?
Keep up the good work.
No please don’t! I beg you to not! It will only make a lot of more insane people starting a UA-cam channel! This channel is crazy enough for the whole youtube 😂😂😂
I hate it when people thing digital is the same regardless of the box. Different chip architectures handle rounding different ways that can affect the sound in a subtle way which may or may not be audible but is still different, and then there is obvious stuff like the affect of the ADC's and DAC's, etc, etc.
6:45 This seems like the perfect mastering tool then because mastering is not musical in my opinion. It is the maths behind the fun part of making music so your comment on this section gives me the insight this is a great tool that i can use for mastering. I like the in depth functions within this plugin and the wide variety of control over all the parameters. thanks for the review
Please review PHILS CASCADE!!! I’m very curious how you will respond to it. The thing sounds incredible. I have it and it seriously is amazing.
It must be Darude - Sandstorm (The Jazz Swing Bootleg Remix) 🤔😂✌️
You keep using Sandstorm by Darude but the versions you play are nothing like the original dance version. Are there 2 different Darude's?
just trolling of course
I kept thinking like "Why this song sound different everytime?" 🤔🤨
It's just because he's using different plugins - they all have their own character.
lol I fell into the same trap...I'm like, this is not the famous song! Nobody said anything....I finally figured it out. Great idea.
Reminds me of the Kotelnikov compressor (which is free by the way) with the two release values for peak and RMS.
And the Peak Crest to set a different threshold for both.
Btw, the transparency in Kotelnikov comes from the RMS compressor, the Peak compressor is made to distort a lot like a 1176 compressor. Both compressors don't add any noise or color besides distortion.
Softube’s convoluted installation manager is like hula hooping through Dante’s 9 Circles of Hell.. Unbelievably annoying!
nah its one of the easiest ones
Check out the BX_MasterDesk plug-in by Brainworx. Would love to see a snake oil vid :)
I came for the review, but stayed for the 0:37 LOL
maybe you can use a deeser for your voice holly ffffffffffffff
Not to be That Guy On The Internet (which of course is how That Guy On The Internet always starts a post), but 2us is 0.002ms, not 0.02ms. That's even more insane.
Sorry you struggled saying synonymous but it had me laughing so hard bc it reminded me of Big Daddy hippopotamus scene.
The Gobbler thing for installing the plugins isn’t really that complicated.
Too much $$ not to make a huge difference
Ur my favorite UA-cam in the audio/engineer/sound design category. You have bright future :) keep the vids coming man!
It need visuals too understanding it better....for the non professional user :D
0:39 LMFAOOO
Yet another great video! Please review their Weiss Deess! I’d love to know what you think of it compared to the other popular options. Thanks again!!
You're smoking hot, I enjoy your content. Have a good weekend, all that good stuff blah blah blah?
WTF DID I JUST SAY? Did i get hacked?
Is a girl?
It introduces a crazy latency.
If you think installing that was bad, whatever you do, don't review the new Waves "Organic" Sibilance plugin! Especially if you have any older Waves plugins. I had to install the Waves Central 10 app to download the "free" Black Friday special. (In America, that's the day after we celebrate being thankful the natives were nice enough to let us steal their land and everyone is supposed to start worshiping at the altar of credit card debt to take advantage of all the Christmas sales.) The installer is big, but the licensing app is 350 MB! Then, before I could download and license Sibilance, it asked me if I wanted to update my Waves 9 bundle. NO!!! I don't really even want 98% of it, if that, let alone a bunch more Waves crap. So, it supposedly installs and licenses it after many attempts. Then all of the REAPER projects that had Waves 9 plugins suddenly said that they weren't licensed! Luckily, they were only there to compare them to other plugins, and they were all losers just sitting there bypassed. But, even after I finally got it to license and install, it wouldn't show up in REAPER. So, I checked in Logic. Nope. GarageBand? Nope. The stupid thing took up damn near half a gig of hard drive space, I'm seeing it everywhere it's supposed to be, on the hard drive, but it doesn't show up in any DAW! So, in order to get my licensing back without a horrible ordeal with Waves support, who will just tell me I have to use the new licensing scam, I had to do a full TimeMachine system restore. I think all they did was steal Chris J"s at Airwindows code for DeEss and make a GUI for it. I fell for the marketing hype of the company that builds plugins for people who don't know what they're doing and don't want to learn. That's it for me. No more plugins that require iLok, a license manager, or any other means of torturing their customers. Not even if it's free. We've got to show them they can't even give those monstrous things away.
hm, why not just using the Kotelnikov...
coz its a russian weird name, a user interface from 2002, and doesn't sound as good. Cheap newbs and beginners say "Kotelnikov" on UA-cam, and we all know - they are newbs and b-Grade producers.
0:33 that logo is totally a boob.
Thanks for all your wonderful tips! My question is, in this new digital era with everyone listening to their music by streaming on the computer speakers, earbuds, cell phones speakers how do we mix and master our music? The computer and cell phone speakers sound bad and bright and some of the cheaper earbuds as well. Does the listener expect our songs to sound good on these devices. What point of reference do we go by to get the right compromising mix? Thanks for your time. Take care! Billy
I didnt catch you using the limiter section at all?
you know what I give you so much credit for cutting the video when your talking to get to the point and avoid time pauses
You can download single plugin installers from your gobbler account without installing the gobbler software!
:D He should have got this info earlier
Sheenoneemoosh... geweldig :D
2:58 0.02ms actually is 20us , but you are right - 20us are just enough to catch 1 sample at 48kHz sampling rate.
these videos are great purely cause of your plug in taste. keep making me drool. sincerely, my wallet.
The „original“ is just an overpriced Dac unit with software. Why shoul the Vst version not sound the same? Compared to 9000 dollars it sounds like a good deal, but you are basically buying a „begining of 2000“ plugin. Listen to Dmg Limitless and Sound Radix Powair which you can get both together for the same price that the Softube costs and then we talk again about if you feel the Softube has a good pricing
Wait? 9k$ for digital compressor? Wtf is going on?
Are you being sarcastic? How is it an advanced limiter?
The SYNONYMOUS cracks me up everytime lmao
Do more Softube reviews please
Best software comp hands down on the market
I wanted to ask you: what is the most transparent compressor you ever tested? I'm only talking about plug-ins.. not analog gear
I have a hunch he is going to say something by Fabfilter. Lol
Try TDR kotelnikov
Almost certainly he'll say elysia alpha
Great video mate.
03:00
0.02 ms(milliseconds ) is NOT 2 microseconds , it's 20 miscroseconds
Terrible piece of music to demo this with. Excellent presentation / explanation though....
Ive been using the MKII thats more for music...it sounds great on an Analog Track this is one the Best Vst Plugins
hej man, ik lag plat bij je sy .... SIE ... noni ... nonnniii ... mus, moes, sinoni ... []{}##%%^^*+=¥££$$\>_ synonimous uitspraak ... very fu fu foe nuni moes !!!! haha keep up the good work wietse !
Doesn’t say that rms is release based. So i think it’s just rms setting in general. And I don’t know how the real thing is designed hardware based. Could be a modular processor setup. And didn’t they just used convolution to mimic the hardware version instead of using the real algorithms?
They have a simple version too, works really great and it doesn't cause compression head aches ;-)
That's just a limiter. This one is a compressor that allows a limiter if you make the ratio super high but it's still different than the other one that's just a limiter
Very stupid compressor
I find it pretty unintuitive when you are in the expert menu and adjust the release times you can only see the actual values down below os far away and nowhere near where you are actually focusing your eyes to , meaning if i was a whale i could have one eye on the line next to "Auto Release" and one below where the values appear.
For something that is supposed to be so transparent , it sounded super grabby, obviously this is the settings being used.
I think you should change the song " sandstorm by darude " for snake oil by foil lol
0:31 After the 'smile', that little moment of 'soft crazyness' is gold. XD :)
SI-...SI-...SINONIMUS!!!!
Hi! Just wanted to mention that 0.02ms attack time is actually 20 microseconds, not 2 :-) But you are correct that it is almost exactly the time of a single sample at 48kHz.
Beautiful as always. This thing is amazing, but I don't know how to use it.
Dudeeeee do you have the link to the darude song? It's sick what a bass monster did they even use ?
Wow, your new stuff has grown. Fun to see the old stuff. No painted nails yet! Anyways, your skill at these videos has slowly gontten better and it is cool to see your old video as I look at this things and see I want a plug. it is so wild to live in the times we live in.
I agree, just use Fabfilter and call it good.
more fun at play speed ⚙ 1.25!
You don’t have to use a Gobbler Plugin Manager...
Just use iLock I know what you mean I hate third-party plug-in managers
Seriously bro, you had trouble installing ST software?! 😂
So I’m about to start school for Audio Production and I’m super excited. I want to own a recording studio one day and would love to have an analog console. Anything like an old Neve console, SSL, Neuman, etc. any advice on where to buy these pieces of gear??
Yea, save your money.. lol
I'm so glad it was jazz instead of sandstorm tbh
If it's not analog, its snake oil
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the rms parameter controls the inertia of the envelope detectors.
SYNONIMUS THE GREAT!!!
You gotta review the BX purple audio mc77
Synominu... sinomo.... SYNONYMOUS!
you save my money, thanks :)
I find myself watching your videos all the time. Great Job. Helping allot. I am trying to find out which compressor plug in I want to buy. Still looking.
Thanx man for this video!
Dude, instead of turning knobs in the studio go out and get your self a girl friend, you are young and some time so annoying. Marry Christmas
Do you have a girlfriend/wife? Is she cool/hot? If no to either of these stfu. Your comment had no relevance
Since the plugin takes the physical box that merely hosts a digital processor out of the equation then it seems to me it should sound even better since the signal needs not to go through any DA/AD conversion going out of the box into a box and back into the box. Haha Right?
@@CraigScottFrost There's no conversion. Weiss is a digital box. So if its really a 1:1 port it would be 100% the same. No signal-loss. The components in a digital system doesn't have a sound. People hear many funny things when they don't know how it works.
@@CraigScottFrost why would you use an analog cable to connect a digital computer with a digital box? I'm not even sure it's possible to pass on an analogue signal to the Weiss. It's a 100% digital unit
I think you need to set it on longer release on peaks and slower on rms that way the peak is more contained
you're so funny lol
hennings been a busy bwee
Now it's time to test the weiss EQ🧐
I shy away from a lot of plugins because of cost and installation problems. It’s a plugin for peace sakes! Why can’t they all sit on my external hard drive? If anyone knows the answer to this please let me know. Thanks again
The problem is between the keyboard and the chair
Jon 777 ahh fuckboy want smoke huh?
It makes me sad that you already did the video about Weiss but not TDR Kotelnikov, its direct rival. (Though Kotenikov isn't a limiter).
"Molot" has been getting a lot of love from me lately
Kotelnikov is no direct rival lol. A cheap plugin with graphics from 2005 that sounds pretty good. Not even close to Weiss. The name is also pretty stupid !!!
Cool stuff
oml the rant at the beginning
0:40 NANIII ??!!!!
head egg
who said Gobbler?
SINONIMUS!
A nice one dude, thanks for sharing and keep up the good work !
SYNONNOMOUSSE!
02:10
rms mesjchamant
Thanks bro
Snake oil?
This lying ass tweaked out looking dude
Installing Softube plugins is not a problem or difficult at all, really. No idea what you're complaining about. Also, complaining about lack of a manual? Dude, it's a straight code-port of a hardware unit whose manual can be found online. Here: www.weiss.ch/files/downloads/ds1/DS1-MK3-Manual.pdf. That wasn't hard, now, was it? (Now look up RMS and Average.) When you e.g. buy Softube's ports of Mutable Instruments modules for Modular, you also go to the MI website to read the manual. Not hard, not difficult, and actually quite reasonable. Okay, Softube *could* have included a pointer to the original manual... for those who can't figure this stuff out by themselves.
I understand this thing is not for you, but, to be honest, that _might_ say something about you and not about the plugin. And sure, FabFilter's compressor and limiter are great as well. And Dutch. Like you. And me. Which might count as an advantage. Or not. Whatever. And practice pronouncing "synonymous" next time. It's not that hard. It's even easier than installing Softube plugins. Which is already pretty easy. Peace out.
Review Har Bal mastering software.
It takes a millennial to get an epileptic fit over a $299 plugin.
hmm I have tried a lot of limiters and the weiss from softube is amazing
It's amazing you got it running. I only wanted their saturation knob once, I gave up after three failed attempts. The silver lining is I ended up with two other free saturation plugins which are awesome.
I was on the forums when this first came out, to read reviews. It was said to have the same exact code, however, engineers found the hardware to have more depth. I'm assuming because of convertors, cabling, etc. In my opinion, hardware will always have the slight edge, due to the fact that it's real electronics. Physics will always win, in a physical world.
@@CraigScottFrost And here we are in the forefront of the what will be the next gen of plugins.
Why do u write snake oil on all your videos?
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Always the first video's I click in my sub box! Loving the content Wytse