i can still hear the song ringing in my head. how he was able to match ANYTHING to that song is insane😭😭😭 and the fact that she recognized the way he was thrusting and connected it to the song 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
It’s baffling. I feel awful for him because his partner definitely should have said something before, or if she wanted to say something so much later, she could say that the song has started to get on her nerves. But also, I could not fathom how this guy thought this song was good for sex.
It's disgusting. I'm autistic and I know so many cases where the parents thought the kid was "not there" because they were not verbal. These parents on the news were shocked to find when their daughter typed her thoughts on a computer. They had been talking crappy things about her with her understanding them... Lucky for them she wasn't bitter. I sure woulda been.
it’s so ironic & funny to me but also kinda sad. she should want to shower the other kid with love just as much as her original grandchild. i would have put her in hospice instantly & visited her to have a cooled down conversation about it. saying what she said is unforgettable, unforgivable, & malicious. Chances are even if he had waited to put her in hospice until they had a cooled down conversation, she would have just reiterated her poor morals again instead of being a good mother, grandmother, so.. why keep her around.
I feel like I would retreat into my imaginary worlds I get lost in when daydreaming. But it's impossible to know because that sounds so horrific...how could I cope otherwise? I wonder if my eyes would even leak tears with the loneliness I'd feel...
i see everyone in the comments sympathizing with the mother of the disabled child but disagreeing with the verbal abuse, but I dont see anyone mentioning how she literally let her other son hit him and just watched. The way she talks about him is absolutyley disgusting, but i think the fact that she allowed that to happen and didnt care shows that he NEEDED to be put in a home, he wouldnt be safe in her care.
i don’t think either of you can even fathom what this woman has been through and don’t know what supreme numbness feels like. no these actions are *not* condonable by *anyone* but leave your judgement at the door unless this has been your situation exactly. this poor kid (older son) has had his childhood and parents ripped from him and didn’t understand the implications of his actions. we as a society reason the actions of women with postpartum because there is a psychological break in their mental stability, this seems comparable to the mental state of this woman especially considering she just lost her only support and confidant about her extremely taboo feelings and the struggle of her reality. cut her a break.
No he wouldn't be, but you have to understand this woman is CLEARLY not okay either. The stress and grief have clearly pushed her to her limits, and it's clearly the same for her older son. Their actions are harsh and harmful, yes, but so is the situation they're in. You're not in any place to pass such harsh judgment on her.
@@hannahsteusloff9864 that is not an excuse AT ALL. i've had family and friends who HAVE gone through what the woman has gone through, from down syndrome to autism to cancer, and they would do EVERYTHING for their children. they wouldn't wish them any different either. that lady gave off EXTREME stauffer lady vibes, she even said herself that children with disabilities bring gifts with them, which she was fine with (alluding to the attention). until reality hit her. if you're not prepared to handle anything life throws at you when having children, then you DON'T have children. they are YOUR responsibility until you or they die. its like you missed everything that the mom did, allowing the older sibling abuse someone who doesn't understand??? thats sick. she should've sat her child to explain what was happening and settled that with him, and instead she watched him beat the child who is unaware and can't consent to anything be abused and taken advantage of. she's clearly resentful of that poor child, about his disability, about the loss of whoever it was in the beginning (the partner i think), about her other child, and guess what? NONE OF IT JUSTIFIES ANYTHING SHE'S DONE. ITS NOT THE DISABLED CHILD'S FAULT. and she seriously needs intensive therapy, and so does anyone who sides with her. i'm so glad this new generation is starting to wake up on the fact that having kids is not just something you do. because then we end up with people like that ridiculous lady. she can do whatever she wants, she's still a POS. having post partum doesn't excuse you from being awful either, i hope you know that. stop with that fake feminist crap because you're just excusing shotty behavior under the guise of supporting women. and karma is coming to that woman.
the fact that the mom was more upset about what people thought of her for not going to her sons wedding than she was about missing the actual wedding. these people literally only care about one of their kids
For the sisters infertility story, I think it’s also important to remember that she had literally just given birth, the amount of hormones that were coursing through her plus the destruction of her property, she definitely had no chance to keep a level head in that situation
I also think that other sister probably shouldn't have kids if this is how she behaves WHILE taking care of 3 years becuz she didn't get what she wants. Like imagine if she was doing what she was doing and one of those kids walked up to her and she accidentally hurt them.
The emotional damage from what happened. I fully understand where the sister might be, but to take it out on a literal brand new baby and creating that energy on a day that's supposed to be so joyful? And, the emotional damage to those boys? If you can't handle your emotions while baby sitting, how can you hope to have children? If being around children is that triggering for her, it sounds like some therapy would benefit her before pursuing pregnancy now. OPs statement might have been harsh, but to do the emotional and property damage to that extent, blame it on children (your nephews), and not apologize or offer to reimburse or pay for the damage? That's also heartless.
Kinda shocked at the indifference toward the third story. The way that parent spoke about their child was horrifying. Like actually made me sick to my stomach. They’re completely justified in putting the child in a home where they’ll be better cared for, but basically allowing the other child to beat their disabled sibling is crazy.
since they are recording a video & probably have a million things they r thinking & wanna say, i feel like it wasn’t really indifference. just trying not to take up too much time so everyone can hear the next story. most people don’t have that wide of an attention span/podcasts are normally 1-2 hrs long & i think they knew that. they also consider the listeners having their own thoughts to share & know everyone else can say what they were thinking for them. bc they probably read comments & be nodding their head.
I took it as the mom needed an outlet to vent. She’s grieved her husband, she’s grieved her youngest child because she was expecting her child to have a life just like any mom and she is grieving the life she wanted for her kids. This sounds like a nightmare of a life. The anger and hurt is definitely misplaced and not right but the mom doesn’t sound evil to me. She sounds devastated. I think Morgan’s indifference comes from not being able to imagine living that whole situation.
@@avamoore2050 no not evil at all but she needs help. she’s placing resentment on a child who didn’t ask to be here in the first place. i took care of my 98 year old nonverbal grandmother who needed help with everything and i never felt this kind of resentment. I’d jokingly call her a brat bc she’s so picky about everything but i never felt this kind of resentment. To be fair, i had a clear end in sight, as morbid as it sounds. But this isn’t a normal way to feel, this has much more to do with her husband than the post gives away.
Agreed, I think her decision is valid but the way she spoke about her child (especially publicly) is unforgivable. Honestly I think her other son’s behavior is largely dependent on how openly she blames all her problems on her disabled child and he was likely just copying her attitude for him. I have heard people talk about inanimate objects with more care than she talks about another human being, let alone her own child. She also said it took that moment for her to realize her son had lost a father, she didn’t just loose a husband. I can’t imagine how that wouldn’t be immediately clear to you unless you are incredibly self-absorbed. She even states that she hates her son because he doesn’t provide anything for her, that’s not how parenting works. If she needed to vent she should say this to a therapist, not the internet. This kind of language is exactly why disabled people are mistreated and abused and leads to the promotion of eugenics. I know she has been through a lot but it’s not an excuse for her profound lack of empathy.
Not justifing how the mother acts/talks about her child but along with burnout also comes empathy burnout. And without any level of response it probably gets very hard to empathize because there is nothing to respond to either. The whole situation is awful.
Yup - when I was growing up, my Dad would tell me and my siblings horror stories like this of people he knew growing up who made one bad choice and it changed their life forever.
That was the most tragic story I’ve heard in a long time. So many lives destroyed over the choices of two children. There were no winners in that story. 💔
Story 4: Mommy and Daddy dearest aren’t even trying to hide their favoritism. They’re upset because they know they were in the wrong. Especially since they promised they wouldn’t let anything keep them from coming. They promised.
Story 7: "we're both straight." "I may have had some less than straight thoughts before when I was younger..." "But I'm only attracted to women though. Except this guy I'm in love with." My late bloomer bisexual ass: oh buddy, I have some news.
Like the two guys who got married to get paid more, and by the end of his confession(Therapy Gecko, iirc) he's like "I love my husband alot, actually..."
Personally I'm a lesbian, but I noticed that a lot of bi people are often in denial about the fact that they're bi because in their mind they think it has to be a 50/50 thing, when in reality you can have a 99% preference for one gender and still be bi 😭
@@katybcat8286 tbf, a lot of people who fit the bi description either identify as straight or gay depending on their preference bc they find it easier. I have a friend who's attracted to men but still decided to label herself as a lesbian cause she's like 95% attracted to women and 5% attracted to men, she also has a lot of trauma related to men so she doesn't really wanna date a dude. She thought at first she was just confused about her attraction to men but after giving it a lot of thought she realized it was for real, but bc of the reasons I mentioned before still decided to keep the label she was going with before. But I also 100% get what you're saying, cause when I was younger I was super confused about my preference fluctuating (sometimes I'm more attracted to guys and sometimes I'm more attracted to girls personally) so I would switch between thinking of myself as gay and straight, until I realized "I like both...so that means I'm bi". I felt like the dumbest bitch when I realized that lol
As someone who doesn't tik tok thank you for not skipping the story , love you guys I've been binging father knows something cause I finished all your videos lol
On the chromosome one, I see her anger, her feelings of resentment, her pain, her frustration, all those things. That decision to put her child into a facility is ABSOLUTELY a great choice. There are things that in our life we are not equipped to deal with emotional, mentally, or physically. That's why certain medical advances, therapies, medical professionals, and facilities exist. HOWEVER, her words. Her insults, are absolutely horrific. Her words make her sound like she hates her child. I think deep down if she were to talk to her therapist, she would understand that it may be resentment she harbours. I think her feeling emotions are valid, but the vile words, disgust, and hatred for her are not. The words killed me. I hope that after she puts the child into a home, that she speaks to her therapist and works through these feelings and these expressions of upset. Hopefully she will see how wrong she was to feel this way, and the underlying issues of why she feels those words are necessary to describe her child. Then maybe, she will feel hope and love again for her child. I hope the removal of the stress, the ability to grieve and mourn, will help her become a better mother to this child. That's all we can hope for. I have a brother who has a developmental disability to a chromosomal abnormality. I feel her fatigue, and her feeling of being overwhelmed and that her world is crumbling. Her decision is right, so that child can be provided the best care.
'Her words make her sound like she hates her child.' She probably does. You see so many stories from parents who don't put their kids into care and they spend their lives taking care of them. My uncle (who has since passed away) was 40 and still in diapers. It was so draining for my grandparents and my mother and other uncle went LC because of the neglect they suffered as a result of their parents constantly being focused on uncle. There are no memorials of uncle up around the house. His presence is gone. I can feel how my grandparents just... done. It's like they don't know anything else but care for uncle. I totally get the resentment and it's had an effect on myself and my siblings (generational trauma). The mother's decision was correct, I 100% agree.
This remind me of a book a read of a disabled man who was thought to be completely unresponsive. Everyone from doctors to his family thought there was nothing going on in his brain, but in reality he was lucid and could hear everything! He heard his mother speak about him in the same way this lady spoke about her son, and was abused physically and s*xually. It wasn’t until he miraculously was able to move again that people realized he was lucid. Now he uses a computer to speak.
She absolutely made the best decision before infanti-/fratricide took place. Her words were definitely from a raw resentful place and I absolutely hope she talks to her therapist about that resent to maybe eventually heal enough so she can visit him someday.
On story #4: there’s no excuse for those parents. My grandma came to my outdoor wedding in December (it was in Arizona) even though she had double pneumonia. You don’t miss a wedding for someone ELSE’S dog. We all know who the favorite is there...
IF the dog was really that sick then maybe SHE could've stayed behind, and if it really was that serious then the parents could've returned earlier instead of missing the whole thing!!
@@daviddelara7158 it’s possible by sick they meant like maybe it got into some chocolate & the sister was freaking out scared. i don’t doubt it was a serious situation. However, if the sister is known to ruin moments in the your sons life, and she is a full grown adult woman.. when you have a wedding to attend that is your sons, you go to it. And tell the daughter i’m sorry, but you need to call the vet and do this on your own.
@@yea0000 if it WAS a serious situation, and not something the sister just made up, it's because she poisoned the dog herself. You really think it happened COINCIDENTALLY after op went so far as to make them promise they wouldn't do the exact thing that they did and had done multiple times in the past? No fucking way
Story 6 is really scary. The lack of remorse and accountability on the sisters part is mind blowing to me. She’s not “hurt”, she’s seething with envy and her obsession with pregnancy is unhinged. I also hope she doesn’t have a baby, because someone like her isn’t stable enough to be a mother
Story 4 -- I LOVE the best man for this. That is a hell of a good friend, keep him around and keep the video around. Parents made their bed, and have for years, time for them to live in it.
When Morgan started talking about a "popular reddit story on tiktok" I instantly started wheezing hard💀Justin's dead pan face as the song played is everything.
Story 3. I can understand and even respect the mother for putting in an environment that will be more devoted to him. What I don’t fucking respect is her calling him names and letting her older son hit him. And putting her husbands death on him. She also needs to realise that her and the oldest son need therapy themselves.
@@rhenaykorner4083 same and I felt sooooo sad when I found out the elder son hit him. Like we don’t know for sure that he can’t understand that. What if it hurt him and he just can’t communicate 💔 the older son is 12 and the younger son is 7 and disabled. The power imbalance is insane there.
Yeah the name calling and acting like he’s not even human was really uncomfortable. Calling him an “it” and an object so many times…I’m just glad he’s away from her care now. I genuinely hope she seeks professional help and accepts the situation for what it was. Dealing with the loss of her partner and having all the physical and financial responsibility dropped into her lap is a lot for anyone to handle, let alone a single parent. I can only imagine the stress it put on her, and she didn’t ask for any of it. I just think it’s important for her to work out and understand that the poor kid didn’t ask for any of this either, and he couldn’t apologize or explain, even if he really wanted to. It’s not fair to put the blame on him for things he couldn’t control, he just…existed… and I guess that was too much for them. I just hope the kid and the mom find peace.
I’m glad there are people who agree with me. I did look at the original reddit thread and it was horrible. The problem with enabling that behaviour is that it attracts ableism. There were way too many people in that thread egging on the name calling. That’s why it’s extremely important to call out that behaviour every single time it happens. I really couldn’t care less if they’re “ranting/trauma dumping”. You can do that without being a POS of a person.
I have never once cried over any of the stories you have told, but as a mother of two children, granted they are both healthy, but I was balling over the story of the disabled child….I could never understand what she has gone through and I really feel for her and pray that she is able to heal from everything…BUT there is no excuse for some of things she said and allowed to happen to her child. Like allowing her older child to literally abuse the one who cannot fight back, whether he feels it or not. The way she talked about that baby, who didn’t choose this life and didn’t do anything to her to deserve her ugly words. Idk…that story really really upset me for her and for that baby. She is making the right choice taking him out of that toxic, abusive environment. I also hope she gets help though because it does sound like she needs some intense therapy.
The story about the child with the missing chromosome sickened me. I completely sympathize with how defeated, tired, and emotionally lost OP feels - but she took it way too far with the way she talked about her child. It was degrading and disgusting and borderline sociopathic. I know people are going to try and come at me with "She has trauma!" and "She has PTSD!" etc etc, and I get that - but having trauma and PTSD aren't all-access passes to just say and do whatever you want. And she said absolutely horrendous things about her child and allowed her other child to beat him. There are parents out there who are in the same position as her and love their child fiercely. Jesus christ. It made me sick to hear.
I wholeheartedly agree. She has the perfect, silent, innocent, scapegoat to blame all her sorrows on. She will never know if her husband really killed himself or if he made a human error. It doesn't matter. She's choosing and living this chilling awful idea as reality and is taking it out on a literal child. I hope she has the decency to re-home her son somewhere that is safe, caring, and understanding. She is none of those things. She will feel guilty one day, as will her other son. I can't imagine the trauma this will inflict on all three individuals. I wonder if and when things get hard with her able son, who will she blame then?
YES. It is abuse. I commented something earlier but deleted in fear no one would agree. I’m so glad I’m on the same page as someone. It’s enraged me & I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Not going to lie, I am disappointed with the commentary on this one. There is no excuse to treat your son this way.
The mother of the disabled child made the right decision by putting him in a home, but we need to take into consideration that that child did not ask to be born. It's not his fault that he has such severe disabilities. The abuse that mother showed her child because he was too difficult for her???? Disgusting. Tell us you don't love him. Fine! Tell us you're no longer going to be taking care of him. FINE! But calling him names like potato, cucumber, etc. is so vile. She made the right choice, but she's still so wrong for her thoughts and actions.
She knew he had disability but still chooses to go through with it. Now she’s complaining that he’s taking up her and her family time. She’s the one who signed up for this and now she’s backing out.
@@BeepBoop-z2v that’s true but her hatred and abuse of him is unfounded. She chose to have him. Regardless of if you feel he should die it should not be acceptable for her to abuse him
Story 7 made me so happy 🥺 I hope the two dads go for it and have a great relationship. So happy for them admitting their feelings and exploring their sexuality.
The third story really got to me and I feel like it needs to be said that what the mother decided to do is completely okay. I work at a residential home for people with developmental and intellectual disabilities and it truly is the most rewarding work. However the mother clearly has no love and compassion for her own son and thats where i have a problem. I understand how hard it is to care for these individuals. I care for 12 at a time almost everyday but to use slurs and call them anything less than human is just wrong. Especially coming from a parent. Its okay to need that extra support and help because I understand how hard it is, i couldnt even imagine being a single mother. But dont make them out to be less then worthy of your love, that’s cruel.
@𝑴𝒂𝒆𝒍𝒊. imagine if you were that kid. U dont know if the kid can completely think and understand or not. And if shes been resenting this kid then she might not be giving them the kinda emvironment that would help them develop especially if shes letting the other kid beat the child and if she can call her child a thing on the internet she might be saying that and worse at home in private. And she might be blaming all her problems on the defenseless kid. Its hard definitely and the facility is the best decision but her lack of love towards the child can not be justified by any mental illness. Mental illness doesnt justify abuse.
@𝑴𝒂𝒆𝒍𝒊. No, no... The mother dehumanized a child that had no choice in his condition. She is absolutely disgusting for calling him one name, but to keep doing it like it's okay? No. Her decision to put him in residential care is best for everyone, but she can GFH for her choice to refer to her child how she did. There was NO reason for that because the child didn't deserve it. She just shits on him completely. I understand being angry and needing to release that energy, but she was SO wrong for her post. I am imagining how I would feel in her situation, and I still wouldn't post on a public forum and degrade a child I birthed. She also said she would doxx herself... what about her other child? Stupid, reckless, and selfish. I wouldn't be surprised if someone beat the hell out of him if they found out who he was, and worse for the mother.
@𝑴𝒂𝒆𝒍𝒊. i think that the commenter is wrong and right. her decision is good and makes sense. i dont think she should have watched him get the shit beat out of him. or called him a cucumber.
Story 6: I have a VERY similar situation. I’m 25 with 2 kids and my sister is 33 has struggled with infertility for 10 years & has had multiple miscarriages. She has been jealous…. But if she ever destroyed my childrens belongings I would be so mad. The younger sister, is NOT the asshole. That’s horrible of her sister.
I may have an unpopular opinion but the mom talking about her disabled child like that made me sick to my stomach. I can’t imagine being in that position and how devastating that would be but the way she spoke about that child is so uncalled for. I don’t necessarily disagree with her decision but she speaks about that child like he is that way by choice, like he is that way just to spite her. That child did not ask to be born, especially not with that condition but he is here because of her and her husband and he needs help. I feel blaming everything that has gone wrong in her life on this child is not fair, she knew he would have some sort of disability and decided to move on with the pregnancy, she is partly responsible. I just feel as though she talks like it’s his fault he is that way, it’s not and to call him such horrific names is unnecessary.
Honesty and on top of those words, to allow the older sibling to hit and scream at him, hoping death and many other things as well is not ok at all. I want to know the story of her husband because she said that he took an action that made his coworkers or friends not be around for the industrial accident, so she thinks he killed himself because of there sons condition which I think added to the resentment, the words/abuse, and as well as eventually her decision. She asked what we think we'd do in her position, I personally think I'd love him unconditionally but would seek help, whether that was an in-home nurse or friends and family, as well as try to set time aside for the other child that feels neglected and resentful as well.
no shade but have you ever taken care of someone incapable of moving for more than a month? empathy eventually turns to indifference, indifference turns to resentment, and resentment turns into rage. seven years of that without even an indication that you’re helping this person or enriching their life in anyway is not something either of us can understand, and it’s silly that you think you’re better than this person for having human thoughts and emotions considered taboo.
@@hannahsteusloff9864 I feel that her resentment is geared towards her child mainly because she lost her husband. Her feelings are based off of the assumption that her husband left this world because of their son, when she doesn’t really know the truth. I have not only worked with kids with exceptionalities , but have some in the family as well (not to this degree) . I would never think about my child in the way she is thinking of him , especially with the use of language to describe him (potato, it,etc)
@@hannahsteusloff9864 The issue I have with that is she was an adult when she gave birth to this child. She states she was fine having a down syndrome baby, even "looking forward to it," regardless of if it was "profoundly disabled." The reality of that is that there are ALSO down syndrome children who have symptoms nearly identical to that of the OPs son, unable to communicate, move, or express anything, and largely unaware of their surroundings. She expresses resentment for the "round the clock care,"- there are downs children who ALSO require round the clock care. She clearly was not suited to take care of ANY special needs child, let alone a profoundly disabled one. Upon realizing this, as the adult, knowing her own emotional capabilities, she had every opportunity from birth until seven years old to give that child up to a residential home, an adoptive family, whatever. Instead, she openly admits to unlovingly and begrudgingly taking care of that child for seven years, on top of neglecting her other child. She then blames her husband's possible suicide, which was on the husband, on this disabled child. She could have relinquished her rights to that child FAR before it ever reached the stage of allowing her other child to openly abuse her disabled child right in front of her. The OP made the choice to keep a child she knew she couldn't emotionally care for, and then blames that disabled child for her own resentment and poor choices. While I can have empathy for a parent in this terrible scenario, empathy for normal feelings of resentment, and so forth, this level of hatred is absolutely uncalled for and is projection to a degree I have never seen. And on top of that, as a grown adult to suggest she can simply "drop him off and forget about him" is neurotic. In no scenario will that occur- she is not getting her mind wiped by amnesia formula, she's just openly admitting she doesn't want him, never really wanted him, never really had a grasp on severe disability, and made a wrong choice that she cannot emotionally reconcile with herself. Had this child been downs and also required round the clock care, her reaction would likely have been the same. She needs intense and long term therapy, and, quite frankly, it sounds like she is not emotionally capable of caring for her other child either.
For Story 5: OP’s mom, talking about OP’s kid: “Stick it in a facility!” OP, talking about his mom: “Will do.” Love it. NTA. Good on that dude for defending his kid.
I really appreciate the kindness Justin gives to everyone evolved in the situation. Destroying thousands worth of baby things for new parents is cruel in several kinds of ways, but the kind of hurt you've got to have inside of you to do that kind of thing? To your SISTER no less? I agree with Morgan when she says that the woman didn't own up to her actions, but I it sounds like that happened directly after being caught. Expecting rationality isn't rational. If she doesn't get any help for her obvious problems and she doesn’t apologize, I agree, cut her out... But it sounds like this woman had a mental breakdown. Get her help.
What bothers me the most about what happened is that it I doesn't just effect the parents, it effects the child. That kid will not have a good place to sleep, or diapers or anything. Be cruel to adults as much as you want, but never be cruel to a baby.
Some friends of mine aborted at 8 months pregnant their kid because it was detected that their child would have had this condition... they were big Christians... but wanted their kid to be able to enjoy life and have feelings, just be able to live with awareness. I feel for that woman 😔
That third story makes me sick. I remember seeing it on tiktok and the way that people defended the mother and spoke about that poor child was horrid. This is probably a VERY unpopular opinion, but she IS a horrible person. Not because she is putting her child in a home, but because she emotionally and verbally abuses her 7 year old son. Because she stands by and allows his older brother to physically abuse him. That is why she is a terrible person. I can't imagine how hard it is for her to be going through all that stress, but she has crossed a line which takes away all my sympathy for her. She is a horrible person because she is an abusive parent. I'm happy that she's putting him in a home, but simply because that boy will now (hopefully) be away from an abusive household. I just hope that she puts that poor little boy in a decent medical facility that will treat him with dignity and respect and advocate for him, rather than a home that will continue to treat him as a worthless object. The way she speaks about her child doesn't convey exhaustion, it conveys strong and passionate hatred, loathing. There is no doubt in my mind that the things she says about him in that post are said directly to that poor little boy's face. She has stood by and watched as her older son beat and abused that little boy. I wouldn't be shocked if she has physically lashed out at him before. It doesn't matter whether the child is aware/feels pain or not, it is still abuse. If a non-disabled child was in a deep sleep or under general anasthesia (and therefore unaware) and their mother verbally abused them in that way and allowed somebody to beat them, you wouldn't try to defend it or excuse it. Even if somebody has no knowledge or memory of someone abusing them, it doesn't change the fact that the abuser did it.
In the 4th story, the parents need to acknowledge they messed up. They aren't sorry they're just mad that everyone knows what kind of parents they are.
I just cannot with the sister who snapped and destroyed the baby items in front of twin toddlers. I would never be able to forgive that behavior, mental break down or not. 100% would file a police report and attempt to get a protection order- she could have hurt the children. I have empathy for her because fertility struggles for women obviously cut seriously deep.. but for me, this is such a violation of trust. I could never respect her again.
I am with you on this. I would keep her literally and metaphorically at arms length (or more) at all times. You can have empathy for someone and maintain your own boundaries.
story 4 is EPIC that best man was fed tf up with his besties parents and I love that for both the best man and the husband! glad he has a supportive and hilarious bff and wife
The husband's friend is AMAZING! This is nuts how they could miss their son's wedding and she was upset... they are only allowed to miss the wedding because of an accident or something impeding
The third story horrified me so much. I can’t even imagine. I can’t actually put my head in that space. I don’t know how Morgan got through this story with her voice so calm. I’m heart broken. This poor mother should have put him into a care home long, long ago. Her son was a vegetable. He should have been in a hospital his entire life! Because he actually stayed in her home she became so eaten up with resentment for him that she saw her child as a monster... she was so full of hate… If he was in a home it would have been sad but livable. Edit: just read they weren’t able to put him into hospice. This was just so sad.
i'm barely into the third story but i am so frustrated and angry. i'm not a mother so i can only imagine the stress and the emotional "damage" of having two young children, one of which needing constant care. i can sympathise with that. there is no harm in holding your hands up and admitting that you can't do it anymore, that you need help or that caring for the child is taking a toll on you - there should be absolutely no shame in that. however, i take issue with the way she talks about the child. it's one thing to admit you're struggling but another to push the blame onto someone who didn't choose this life. i could understand a child doing something awful and telling them "you're not my child, i didn't raise you like this" in a moment of anger, but to bluntly say that your child is a thing and not a child because of his disability - that's too fucking far. putting him in a facility was the best choice she made, not for herself, but for the wellbeing of the child. i just hope that she goes out and gets the help that she needs because what i'm hearing is not healthy.
Yes. The decision is justified but the vileness with which she writes about her child made me lose all empathy for her. He did not ask to be here. OP knew he would be disabled and brought him into the world under the presupposition that she would love and care for him. I know she didn’t anticipate the level of care he would require but that is absolutely not his fault AT ALL. To blame him for her husband’s suicide, to blame him for her son’s anger, to blame him for her shitty life when this was 1000% a conscious decision she made is abhorrent. If her son has any level of consciousness or awareness, this life is utter hell for him. On top of all his medical problems his family hates him for existing and that is truly tragic.
No wonder she has lost the ability to make medical decisions for her child. I think the grandmother was doing what she could for her grandchilds safety.
@@lauren3227 I think she’s on the verge of a serious mental break (understandably so with everything she’s been through) and that’s where the vile language is coming from. It’s definitely not okay but I dont think she’s some awful sadistic person. She’s clearly at her wits end.
I think the one about the disabled child is just one of those topics people don't like to hear the truth on. Truth is parents can absolutely hate their children, not want them, loathe being around them, etc. And getting rid of them sometimes is the best option for both the child and the parent. Nobody likes to hear the way the mother speaks about her son, but that is the reality that a lot parents silently face. Clearly OP has some mental health issues that need to be addressed, but if she can't fully explain how she feels to someone without judgment how can she get better? This is why so many people snap and end up committing atrocious crimes because nobody will listen and they are shamed for how they feel instead of being given the help they need.
whoever the best man is is the GOAT! That is what best friends are for when your family support is nowhere to be found. I read this story myself and I died laughing when reading and then got angry when OPs family got upset and mad about ehat they did which was....MISSING THEIR OWN SONS WEDDING TO MAKE SISTER FEEL BETTER! the only way I could ever see the family can "make up" for missing the wedding is if they are willing to pay for another wedding reception so it is guarantee they won't miss it. but I don't think that'll happen and OP needs to cut them out and live his life with his new wife who sounds lovely and his best friend as it shows who is REAL family is
The person who calls the cops on every party their partner goes to without them is TOXIC and needs therapy asap. I had an emotionally abusive partner a decade ago who did that to me once and it still sticks with me to this day. That is such a disgusting thing to do.
Wait wait wait. With story 1 she said he had a very “strange taste in music” which her family agreed with was terrible yet he still thought there wasn’t an issue to use the song that she called strange years ago
@@pinkiichi but realistically, why would you want to fuck to a song that you find strange? thats not really a positive review, if someone called your sex song strange i dont think that means they love it and want to keep going w it
His thought process was “music is subjective” so her family saying it was bad he didn’t take offense to it because not everyone has the same music taste. That being said, music can be subjective but not in all cases, because well, some music sucks.
With the baby product story, personally I think that the breaking point for the infertile sister was when her fertile sister offered surrogacy. Probably felt like she was flaunting her fertility at her when she's clearly not in her right mind. The infertile sister wants a full term pregnancy, not a baby at this point.
That's my thoughts exactly! Some people think it's about having a baby.... it's more than that. Having a surrogate doesn't fix the problem or isn't always the answer.
In my mind that solidifies that she shouldn't have kids. If you want kids but you're so set in the way you get those kids that you will put someone else's kid in danger/cost the new parents thousands, you don't have the emotional maturity to have kids. Go to therapy, lady. This isn't your sister's fault, and you have more issues than infertility.
I can see some people getting offended , it's like when people suggest ivf or egg donation etc. And they get upset for even suggesting that as solution. Because the process is very important to them and they want everything to be as natural as possible. But the great thing about living in today's era is that there are more options to conceive and more treatments available so there is more hope. But its so unfair to take it out on your sister who has no fault or bearing on your fertility. She could communicate her emotions like and adult but she didn't.
@@teenytinyflame Yes! I feel like she’s one of those people that wouldn’t treat an adopted kid as one of her own. I can definitely see her viewing adopted kids as “not really part of the family. In my opinion, people with these old ignorant mindsets shouldn’t have kids, period. Like really dude? You absolutely NEED your child to be of YOUR dna. It’s just so narcissistic to me.
You are being WAY too kind to Cbat guy 🤣 Man's had all the music in the world and went with THAT. Not even on the beat but on the rythim. That poor, poor, woman.
Story 3: I agree that the child is safer outside of that home but the mother is absolutely despicable for letting his other child physically abuse the disabled child. Calling him an "it"??? That's a human being no matter if you don't feel capable of loving him, the least he deserves is respect. I really hope that child is being treated properly now wherever he was put in. Feeling really sad for him.
With story 6 I low key wonder if the aunt didn’t have the kids help her with the destruction. Like oooh look how much fun we can have making this big mess.
I picture a Mommy Dearest level breakdown. Screaming, facial contortions, thrashing about and once it's all over, act calm and collected like it never happened.
Story 3: damn. This sucks. I hope it’s not true. I hope she doesn’t kill herself. I don’t think it’s wrong to put him in a facility but to be so abusive for what she calls him when she acknowledges he may be in there and not able to communicate. This boy didn’t choose to be born but she chose to have him, it’s ok that she can’t care for him but to be so verbally abusive is not excusable. No matter what abuse is never ok! I have sympathy for what she went though but to call him malignant is horrible and not excusable. It also is a red flag that she was ‘excited’ for a downs baby…it signals to me she saw having a special needs child as a status symbol not an actual child. It reminds me of those people who googled ‘easy special needs conditions’ when trying to adopt a kid. I don’t think she’s completely terrible but I do think her words count as verbal/emotional abuse. In this situation…personally I may put them into care…but I would try my best to never become abusive like this.
this exactly. i truly wouldn't blame her for putting him into a facility that would provide and care for him in ways she can't with her deteriorating mental health and other child to care for after her husbands death, but i WOULD and DO blame her for being downright abusive to her child, yk what i mean? there is just such a HUGE difference between putting your child in a facility because you can not adequately care for them, and considering your child some sort of non-human "thing" that you let your other child beat while you watch. egh.
Honesty and on top of those words, to allow the older sibling to hit and scream at him, hoping death and many other things as well is not ok at all. I want to know the story of her husband because she said that he took an action that made his coworkers or friends not be around for the industrial accident, so she thinks he killed himself because of there sons condition which I think added to the resentment, the words/abuse, and as well as eventually her decision. She asked what we think we'd do in her position, I personally think I'd love him unconditionally but would seek help, whether that was an in-home nurse or friends and family, as well as try to set time aside for the other child that feels neglected and resentful as well
literally what i said ab her being excited for a disabled childs "special talents" reminds me of how society only values autistic ppl when they are a genius child prodigy did she think her kid was gonna be rain man??😭😡
Imagine that your mother and brother physically and verbally abuse you while you laying there taking it all in and can’t even defend yourself against it. Instead you have to take it all in and can’t even unalive yourself when you wanted to just so everyone could be happy. Christ…
Story 5. When the sister told this man it was cruel what he was doing to their mother, my first thought was "it's cruel what your mother said about his kid". Family is chosen, and I'd have chosen to leave her in hospice to rot.
The story of the Mother putting her son in a facility was heartbreaking and difficult to listen to as a mother myself. I couldn't imagine having another baby and having to sacrifice everything for their care including my other child's happiness. This mother tried everything for 7 years by herself, living with the knowledge that her spouse couldn't handle it either. Imagine for a moment witnessing one child beating the other because of frustration, sadness and anger. Realizing that they need you more now than ever, and you can't help them. Your disabled child is now in danger, you've been struggling to love them for years, to give them the best life they can have, at the expense of your and your older child's quality of life. How could anyone make that choice. I think we sometimes forget that "Quality of Life" is important too. Not just for them but her younger child too. I agree with everyone's comments below about her terms for her child, but maybe seeing her older child so damaged from this emotionally and hurting the younger was the final straw that broke her back. By referring to them as an object instead of a person she's preparing herself for a hard decision and trying to reconcile that within herself. I honestly couldn't imagine making that choice, and if the older child wasn't there maybe wouldn't have made it.
The child in a facility story is horrific. I understand how she could feel resentful but to hate him so much and call him “it” “potato” “thing” and say he doesn’t feel pain or have a personality or anything is scary. With all that said, I’m glad that she’s at least putting him in a facility because God knows with all of his medical conditions that she could have done something much worse and passed it off as an accident. I think I’d be heartbroken too if I were in her situation but it seems like she had hatred for him which is just sad.
With the music playlist I’m thinking that his girlfriend felt tired of everything being so rehearsed and the same. It’s hard to feel like your partner is fully connecting with you with such a set routine and especially considering he admitted to thinking of the song while they were having sex without music. Basically means he can’t be present in the moment with her.
For awhile way way back, I had an annoying pairing between an old ipod and an old car stereo, so whenever I connected them, the exact same song would start playing. I began to HATE that song, just because I couldn't play anything else for about 20 seconds every single time I started my car. It wasn't even a bad song, it was just the repetition and the feeling of being held hostage by it. I eventually went in and put in a blank track with a name that the car picked up first (it was alphabetical). I literally cannot imagine this situation with my sex life! I wouldn't have lasted 2 years, that's for sure!
I have 4 daughters. Three I gave birth to. One is my soul baby. She is 19. In college and my parents are her grandparents and she Is whole heartedly accepted and always has been. I couldn't imagine my mom saying she wasn't mine. Smh
I’m a retired LEO and have worked tons of car crashes. NEVER EVER ride w your feet on the dash. All the ones I worked where a passenger had their foot or feet on the dash always had more extreme injuries than those whose feet were on the floor. It’s incredibly dangerous and the majority of them ended up in the floorboard w their knees/feet by their heads. Some of their legs were through the windshield and near mutilated by the glass/metal etc. and it didn’t matter if they had seatbelts on or not there is no escaping major injuries riding in that position. Please never ride like that. As this poor young woman found out it’s a devastating injury.
36:48 Those little decisions you make... that part hit hard. When I lived with a roomie, we both worked at Olive Garden. We'd have coworkers over and have pool parties and wake & bake BBQ days. Well this beautiful, young girl, fresh out of high school, started working with us. Me and my roomie, both gay, took her under our wing. I remember the morning she showed up, I was sitting on the porch drinking coffee, she had just gotten her tongue pierced, and she wasn't sure if she could work that day. All three of us worked a DBD(From lunch until dinner's business declined) and met up back at our place, I wasn't feeling well so I fell asleep on the couch, but my roomie and this other girl from work were deep into talking about something on the other house porch, so our friend gave me a hug, told me to feel better, she was going to go home and rest because her tongue hurt, and left. That was the last time anyone saw her alive. She hit a strip of gravel from road work and flipped her Honda into a pine tree. One of the saddest moments of my life. I didn't even find out until I got to work the next day... I wish I would have stayed up, drank a beer with her, smoked some green... she would have stayed the night then. It's been just over nine years... feels like it was yesterday.
I lost my best friend almost 10 years ago, last time we talked I told him I was too busy with finals but that we will talk when I finish, hung up the video chat and that was it. Few days later he was killed by a drunk driver while taking a girl home, I just could stop thinking that if he had gone straight home that wouldn’t have happened because he lived just a few blocks back, or if maybe he wouldn’t be the one driving or if I had invited him out instead, took me years to deal with the fact that the only one at fault was that driver
Story 5; OP is NTA but it sounds like sister may have had a mental break and may not have been aware of her actions. I find it hard to believe the sister intentionally fucked up her surrogate situation. Sister needs intense help ASAP. I agree with the comment that says to contact the police and getting sister mental help.
But to not even admit that it was her and blame the twins. At the very least admit wrongdoing and pay up since the newborn literally does not have a bed because of her.
@@katrinascarlet5637 I’m not arguing any of that but there’s a chance she honestly doesn’t remember any of it. I still don’t think OP is the AH and would encourage her to take any action necessary to protect herself and her kids though. Hopefully the sister gets help.
The story about the child with special needs made me cry. I used to be a paraprofessional for students with special needs that had major medical needs. In just the couple months I was with one school (I transferred from a lasso 3- students with autism that need 1:1 aid to this school in April), I had 2 students confined to a hospital bed. One "communicated" by blinking. It was an absolutely heart breaking story to hear.
For the woman (I’m not calling her a mother because she’s anything but) to talk about a CHILD like that and WATCH as her other child abused him, she needs intense inpatient therapy (and in my opinion, charges for child abuse/neglect). I get caregiver burnout, and all that but there is no excuse for those words or actions. The child is non verbal- how does she know he can’t feel pain or have feelings- HE CANT EXPRESS THEM. What a disgusting human. I hope that poor baby gets a good cna/nurse at the inpatient facility that will shower him with the love and empathy that his own “mother” couldn’t give him.
As a mom, this broke my heart.. I feel she blames her child for the death of her husband. The way she speaks of her son is so disrespectful. Regardless of the disability it’s a human being.. I don’t know what it’s like to have a disabled child and I’m sure it’s extremely difficult but if she despised him she should have had him moved to a care home long time ago. To me this poor child has had to deal with emotional abuse/physical. Just bc he’s not verbal like you aren’t to sure if he feels pain or not. I’m so heartbroken..
The dying mom sorry made me so mad, how can someone say such awful things about a child. Also if the sister cares so much she can move back and take care of her mom
Someone who feels entitled to destroying the living space of a newborn out of jealousy, putting them and their caretaker’s finances at risk, SHOULDN’T have children though. Someone who flies into blind rages and destroys the home of two three-year-olds in front of them while their guardians are away and have entrusted with them with their care SHOULDN’T be in charge of the well-fare of ANY child EVER. “I hope you never have children” isn’t an insult to the sister at that point. It is a sincere hope that she is never in the position to traumatize or endanger any more children that she already has.
She is at a bottom and thankfully she is doing the right thing by putting him in a facility. Hopefully she can get the help she needs to heal from everything including her husbands suicide.
@@desireebetts2332 Yes, it was unsettling. She is angry and probably feels a lot of guilt. It is her a way distancing herself for the child, I believe.
So, the 3rd story and what you said about some people saying these people shouldn't exist reminded me of a case that happened in Japan, 2016. This guy who used to be a career at a facility killed 19 severely disabled residents. I was disgusted by this case, but there were quite a lot of people on the internet that kind of agreed with what the murderer did. It is really scary to think...
Japan has a huge eugenics issue. There are many people over there who believe in their nation creating a ‘superior population’. Which is why the government tried for decades to “prevent” anyone with disabilities and other mental or neurological disorders to be born and or hidden away.
@@rai2423 so yeah, the law was placed till mid 90s from the 40s so it was there for a long time. The Osaka supreme court has ruled in favor of paying compensation for the victims that were forcibly given surgery to prevent them from having children last year (i think), so it's moving in the right direction overall I'd say, but very very slow.
“I overflowed the toilet but this isn’t my house so I’m not cleaning it” - a real statement from a customer during my time working at a dispensary. Idk why homie didn’t keep it to himself Lmao
The comments for the official upload of that song the guy did the deed to had me laughing so hard I was crying! Personally, not a fan of the song because all I can think of is someone picking out Garage Band sample beats and then auto tuning a squeaky door. 🤣
Tbh on the miscarriage story- this might be insensitive but honestly I understand the jealousy but the emotional immaturity to go out of her way to destroy everything the sister had- I hope she doesn't have kids, someone with that level of emotional volatility is not prepared to care for a child. To do that kind of damage and the to continually try to blame it on CHILDREN. OP maaaybe wasn't right to say that but that doesn't make it any less true. This person clearly feels entitled to a child at this point which is not a good mindset to go into parenthood.
Who child that mom! There’s a special Place under the ground for her. She has no idea who is inside that child’s body! There is clear evidence that when people are medically fragile like her son, they are lucid but literally CANNOT protect themselves!!! Oh Good lord that child needs to be somewhere he can be cared for. Oh my god her letting him go is the best thing she could do for that child. I just can’t. Can’t have sympathy for her.
Calm down. She's not a bad person. That kid has zero awareness. Imagine being a slave to taking care of a body with essentially no brain. It's like 6 full time jobs in one, with no benefits for anybody. Her other child is suffering greatly. Take your judgmental ass out of here.
I think OP with the disabled song should talk about her feelings and real thoughts about her son with her therapist. Caregiver fatigue is frustrating and beats you down, I watched it destroy parents of the special needs kids I worked with. I hate how expensive care and programs are, I wish more people could get the necessary help to care for loved ones. I hope OP talking to a therapist can eventually visit her son again in the care home.
That last story was probably the best one I can remember on the podcast. I'm ecstatic about how adorable it was. Justin thought the best play was the "did you take me on a date?" question by the other guy, but I feel like the whole night was a perfectly combined effort that needed all the pieces for it to go anywhere. If OP didn't treat it like a date and admit his feelings in what was basically a lite "coming out", the friend may never have been willing to ask about it being a date, or saying he could relate. OP wouldn't have come out if the friend hadn't shown concern and asked him what was up. The friend wouldn't have asked him if OP never sent any odd signals or treated the night so special. It's important to note that at their age they've likely seen enough homophobia to know that you can't really talk about these things without a really particular build-up. The conversation could've easily halted or gone south at any point. The conversation had to break the ice on preconceived notions of toxic masculinity, homophobia, and rejection before it could get so far. And it's incredible it ended as it did. What I will say is that the friend did pull a grand double whammy for asking if it was a date, right after saying that he could relate.
That last story was such a breath of fresh air and thank you for reading it to us. I feel so happy for them and it felt like I had some butterflies in my stomach too. The OP for that story is quite a good story teller, gave me all the feels.
I dont use tiktok and have never used tiktok. Like ive seen them that people have sent to me, but my adhd is so bad that i need to be actively doing something and listening to things as background noise and tiktok just doesnt mesh with my brand of neurodivergence
Wow you just put this into words for me. I’ll occasionally use tiktok, but mostly just to look at what my friends have sent me, and only at work when there’s a lull and I don’t have anything else to be focusing on. I get that for some people the quick videos are preferable because they don’t require much focus, but my brain has to be doing something else while taking in content
The story about the disabled kid, I've heard it before and every time it gives me a bit in my stomach as a disabled individual. Because the exhaustion, the guilt, the financial troubles, the resentment, the overload of responsibilities is not something I'll blame someone for feeling, being a carer, especially with other children to raise is incredibly hard, and having the kid in a care home is the good choice, for the other children's wellbeing (if they get therapy), for the OP and for the youngest, because I can only see the physical abuse from the other children at some point happen from the mum as well, not our of malice, but out of mental degradation. But seeing how she talks about her son as essentially a subhuman... that is unacceptable for me. Talking about this boy like this, even if she resents him, like that is so awful. This is eugenics level of dehumanization, and we wouldn't refer about a coma patient as a cucumber; or an elderly person with advanced dementia as a potatoes. It reminds me of a book called 'I gifted my son with death' about the testimony of a woman who murdered her 3 year old disabled son because he was, according to her, not a person enough. Seeing how frequently non disabled pêople are quick to dehumanize disabled people and be ready to discard them when they're not disabled the 'correct' way makes me sick. The fact OP was excited to raise a kid with Down Syndrome also seems weird and clearly misinformed because Trisomy comes on a spectrum and most people with down syndrome have less autonomy than the small percentage that we see on social media, many need life long care of some sort. Perhaps it's time that before having children, people make sufficient research into what it means to raise a disbaled kid, because most people with born disabilities arrive in insufficiently educated families, which leads to abandonment like here, or mistreatment, either through neglect, physical or mental abuses
I had a horrible, horrible childhood where my mother signed off on me at 14, and my dad was super absent even when I did live with him. I cut ties with my whole family and have an arms length relationship with my father. With that said, I still have a huge family, non blood related people have helped me learn the life skills my blood relationships failed to teach me. The lady giving me equine therapy adopted me, and her family friend, thats still a doctor who is still to this day, pays for my counseling and has helped me this year so much. I couldn't have asked for a better family. And it feels better knowing they don't need to love me and help me, but they do because they truly truly care and want to watch me succeed. My blood family acts as if I never existed and put the blame on me because it's easier than facing what the real issues are.
I think it'd be amazing if for the wholesome episode coming up you, Justin, and the reason of the gang could all chill with blankets like a sleepover while sharing the wholesome reddit stories with us 🥰
i thought the listener confessions were all one big story and thought i was having a stroke while Morgan read them off omg
😂😂
hahah thankfully just some rapid fire
😅hahaha yea me too it took me a minute
Took me a minute too. I was like damn this person has a really crazy life lmao 😂
Same, I was like "This person needs to chillax." It took too long for me to realize they were separate entries. Lol
I am losing it while Morgan is like “I kind of what to try it.” And Justin sitting there thinking “absolutely not that song is awful” 🤣✋
“Only if you want to”
Justin’s face after like *no thank you*
Omg it’s the “I think it’ll give me power on top” for me😂😂😂💀
What got me was the way she kept being like.. if you want too and Justin’s like noooo😭😭😭 & Morgan’s like… but.. please
Came to the comments to say the same thing, they’re so cute lmao 🤣🤣
I bet it kills the mood fast. No one in their right mind with any skills would be able to perform.
i can still hear the song ringing in my head. how he was able to match ANYTHING to that song is insane😭😭😭 and the fact that she recognized the way he was thrusting and connected it to the song 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I need to know the name of the song!!!!
@@cugglymonster it's Hudson Mohawke - cbat
😂😂😂
It’s baffling. I feel awful for him because his partner definitely should have said something before, or if she wanted to say something so much later, she could say that the song has started to get on her nerves. But also, I could not fathom how this guy thought this song was good for sex.
@@lizziecross8149 it’s so bad. 😭😭😭 so bad
No shame to the mother putting her child in a facility for full time medical care. But shame on her for calling him such bad names like cucumber.
And allowing her other son to beat him up…
@@rai2423 that too of course!
Exactly! As a mother, it literally makes me sick to my stomach and sooo angry 😠
I bet she told the other son everything was the disabled sons fault.
It's disgusting. I'm autistic and I know so many cases where the parents thought the kid was "not there" because they were not verbal. These parents on the news were shocked to find when their daughter typed her thoughts on a computer. They had been talking crappy things about her with her understanding them... Lucky for them she wasn't bitter. I sure woulda been.
"put _it_ in the foster care system but don't put me in hospice!" -that guy's dying mom not understanding her own hypocrisy
my thoughts exactly
it’s so ironic & funny to me but also kinda sad. she should want to shower the other kid with love just as much as her original grandchild. i would have put her in hospice instantly & visited her to have a cooled down conversation about it. saying what she said is unforgettable, unforgivable, & malicious. Chances are even if he had waited to put her in hospice until they had a cooled down conversation, she would have just reiterated her poor morals again instead of being a good mother, grandmother, so.. why keep her around.
In reference to the parents who missed their son’s wedding: OP commented and said his sister is not diagnosed with any disabilities
oh? oh no...
That's so much worse omfg
I remember that story, the sister was suffering with severe spoiled golden child issues. I felt so bad for OP.
Makes it even worse 😭
Wow. Just wow!
That’s my absolute worst nightmare by far, to be in a vegetable like state while being fully mentally aware
It's not a way to live.
I feel like I would retreat into my imaginary worlds I get lost in when daydreaming. But it's impossible to know because that sounds so horrific...how could I cope otherwise? I wonder if my eyes would even leak tears with the loneliness I'd feel...
Some ppl find love still so it’s not all that bad waif the person is taking care of you.
@@niathenaillady that sounds horrific
i see everyone in the comments sympathizing with the mother of the disabled child but disagreeing with the verbal abuse, but I dont see anyone mentioning how she literally let her other son hit him and just watched. The way she talks about him is absolutyley disgusting, but i think the fact that she allowed that to happen and didnt care shows that he NEEDED to be put in a home, he wouldnt be safe in her care.
exactly like who knows what her do to him next. her kid saying she wants him to die is so bad. if he did actually kill him I wouldn’t be surprised
i don’t think either of you can even fathom what this woman has been through and don’t know what supreme numbness feels like. no these actions are *not* condonable by *anyone* but leave your judgement at the door unless this has been your situation exactly. this poor kid (older son) has had his childhood and parents ripped from him and didn’t understand the implications of his actions. we as a society reason the actions of women with postpartum because there is a psychological break in their mental stability, this seems comparable to the mental state of this woman especially considering she just lost her only support and confidant about her extremely taboo feelings and the struggle of her reality. cut her a break.
💯💯💯 that child didn't ask to be born and it's not his fault that he has severe disabilities.
No he wouldn't be, but you have to understand this woman is CLEARLY not okay either. The stress and grief have clearly pushed her to her limits, and it's clearly the same for her older son. Their actions are harsh and harmful, yes, but so is the situation they're in. You're not in any place to pass such harsh judgment on her.
@@hannahsteusloff9864 that is not an excuse AT ALL. i've had family and friends who HAVE gone through what the woman has gone through, from down syndrome to autism to cancer, and they would do EVERYTHING for their children. they wouldn't wish them any different either. that lady gave off EXTREME stauffer lady vibes, she even said herself that children with disabilities bring gifts with them, which she was fine with (alluding to the attention). until reality hit her. if you're not prepared to handle anything life throws at you when having children, then you DON'T have children. they are YOUR responsibility until you or they die. its like you missed everything that the mom did, allowing the older sibling abuse someone who doesn't understand??? thats sick. she should've sat her child to explain what was happening and settled that with him, and instead she watched him beat the child who is unaware and can't consent to anything be abused and taken advantage of. she's clearly resentful of that poor child, about his disability, about the loss of whoever it was in the beginning (the partner i think), about her other child, and guess what? NONE OF IT JUSTIFIES ANYTHING SHE'S DONE. ITS NOT THE DISABLED CHILD'S FAULT. and she seriously needs intensive therapy, and so does anyone who sides with her. i'm so glad this new generation is starting to wake up on the fact that having kids is not just something you do. because then we end up with people like that ridiculous lady. she can do whatever she wants, she's still a POS. having post partum doesn't excuse you from being awful either, i hope you know that. stop with that fake feminist crap because you're just excusing shotty behavior under the guise of supporting women. and karma is coming to that woman.
the fact that the mom was more upset about what people thought of her for not going to her sons wedding than she was about missing the actual wedding. these people literally only care about one of their kids
Morgan did read “I lost my virginity ‘to’ my mom” the first time 😂 that’s why Justin was so confused, even I was confused at first😂
She said with my mom
For the sisters infertility story, I think it’s also important to remember that she had literally just given birth, the amount of hormones that were coursing through her plus the destruction of her property, she definitely had no chance to keep a level head in that situation
I also think that other sister probably shouldn't have kids if this is how she behaves WHILE taking care of 3 years becuz she didn't get what she wants. Like imagine if she was doing what she was doing and one of those kids walked up to her and she accidentally hurt them.
@@laxaza Exactly OP sister isn't wrong with what she said the crazy sister should NOT have kids or at least not till she gets alot of help!!
The emotional damage from what happened. I fully understand where the sister might be, but to take it out on a literal brand new baby and creating that energy on a day that's supposed to be so joyful? And, the emotional damage to those boys? If you can't handle your emotions while baby sitting, how can you hope to have children? If being around children is that triggering for her, it sounds like some therapy would benefit her before pursuing pregnancy now. OPs statement might have been harsh, but to do the emotional and property damage to that extent, blame it on children (your nephews), and not apologize or offer to reimburse or pay for the damage? That's also heartless.
@@laxazaTHIS
“can you imagine thrusting like that?” followed by “should we try it?” 😂😂
Kinda shocked at the indifference toward the third story. The way that parent spoke about their child was horrifying. Like actually made me sick to my stomach. They’re completely justified in putting the child in a home where they’ll be better cared for, but basically allowing the other child to beat their disabled sibling is crazy.
since they are recording a video & probably have a million things they r thinking & wanna say, i feel like it wasn’t really indifference. just trying not to take up too much time so everyone can hear the next story. most people don’t have that wide of an attention span/podcasts are normally 1-2 hrs long & i think they knew that. they also consider the listeners having their own thoughts to share & know everyone else can say what they were thinking for them. bc they probably read comments & be nodding their head.
I took it as the mom needed an outlet to vent. She’s grieved her husband, she’s grieved her youngest child because she was expecting her child to have a life just like any mom and she is grieving the life she wanted for her kids. This sounds like a nightmare of a life. The anger and hurt is definitely misplaced and not right but the mom doesn’t sound evil to me. She sounds devastated. I think Morgan’s indifference comes from not being able to imagine living that whole situation.
@@avamoore2050 no not evil at all but she needs help. she’s placing resentment on a child who didn’t ask to be here in the first place. i took care of my 98 year old nonverbal grandmother who needed help with everything and i never felt this kind of resentment. I’d jokingly call her a brat bc she’s so picky about everything but i never felt this kind of resentment. To be fair, i had a clear end in sight, as morbid as it sounds. But this isn’t a normal way to feel, this has much more to do with her husband than the post gives away.
Agreed, I think her decision is valid but the way she spoke about her child (especially publicly) is unforgivable. Honestly I think her other son’s behavior is largely dependent on how openly she blames all her problems on her disabled child and he was likely just copying her attitude for him. I have heard people talk about inanimate objects with more care than she talks about another human being, let alone her own child. She also said it took that moment for her to realize her son had lost a father, she didn’t just loose a husband. I can’t imagine how that wouldn’t be immediately clear to you unless you are incredibly self-absorbed. She even states that she hates her son because he doesn’t provide anything for her, that’s not how parenting works. If she needed to vent she should say this to a therapist, not the internet. This kind of language is exactly why disabled people are mistreated and abused and leads to the promotion of eugenics. I know she has been through a lot but it’s not an excuse for her profound lack of empathy.
Not justifing how the mother acts/talks about her child but along with burnout also comes empathy burnout. And without any level of response it probably gets very hard to empathize because there is nothing to respond to either. The whole situation is awful.
This 2nd story is what I’ll tell my children when they are old enough to drive. Tragic af
I was thinking the same thing…
Even before. Remember, the bf was not old enough for a driving permit...
That's what I was thinking! The girl could do talks at schools
Yup - when I was growing up, my Dad would tell me and my siblings horror stories like this of people he knew growing up who made one bad choice and it changed their life forever.
That was the most tragic story I’ve heard in a long time. So many lives destroyed over the choices of two children. There were no winners in that story. 💔
Story 4: Mommy and Daddy dearest aren’t even trying to hide their favoritism. They’re upset because they know they were in the wrong. Especially since they promised they wouldn’t let anything keep them from coming. They promised.
Story 7: "we're both straight."
"I may have had some less than straight thoughts before when I was younger..."
"But I'm only attracted to women though. Except this guy I'm in love with."
My late bloomer bisexual ass: oh buddy, I have some news.
Finished the story. Oh Thank God!
Like the two guys who got married to get paid more, and by the end of his confession(Therapy Gecko, iirc) he's like "I love my husband alot, actually..."
I actually did the little victory fist pump, when I heard that they decided it was a date. I really loved the mood boost :)
Personally I'm a lesbian, but I noticed that a lot of bi people are often in denial about the fact that they're bi because in their mind they think it has to be a 50/50 thing, when in reality you can have a 99% preference for one gender and still be bi 😭
@@katybcat8286 tbf, a lot of people who fit the bi description either identify as straight or gay depending on their preference bc they find it easier. I have a friend who's attracted to men but still decided to label herself as a lesbian cause she's like 95% attracted to women and 5% attracted to men, she also has a lot of trauma related to men so she doesn't really wanna date a dude. She thought at first she was just confused about her attraction to men but after giving it a lot of thought she realized it was for real, but bc of the reasons I mentioned before still decided to keep the label she was going with before. But I also 100% get what you're saying, cause when I was younger I was super confused about my preference fluctuating (sometimes I'm more attracted to guys and sometimes I'm more attracted to girls personally) so I would switch between thinking of myself as gay and straight, until I realized "I like both...so that means I'm bi". I felt like the dumbest bitch when I realized that lol
As someone who doesn't tik tok thank you for not skipping the story , love you guys I've been binging father knows something cause I finished all your videos lol
I love tiktok and I haven’t heard it either 😂😂😂
Same. I deactivated mine about a year ago.
Same, I never got into tik tok!
On the chromosome one, I see her anger, her feelings of resentment, her pain, her frustration, all those things. That decision to put her child into a facility is ABSOLUTELY a great choice. There are things that in our life we are not equipped to deal with emotional, mentally, or physically. That's why certain medical advances, therapies, medical professionals, and facilities exist. HOWEVER, her words. Her insults, are absolutely horrific. Her words make her sound like she hates her child. I think deep down if she were to talk to her therapist, she would understand that it may be resentment she harbours. I think her feeling emotions are valid, but the vile words, disgust, and hatred for her are not. The words killed me.
I hope that after she puts the child into a home, that she speaks to her therapist and works through these feelings and these expressions of upset. Hopefully she will see how wrong she was to feel this way, and the underlying issues of why she feels those words are necessary to describe her child. Then maybe, she will feel hope and love again for her child. I hope the removal of the stress, the ability to grieve and mourn, will help her become a better mother to this child. That's all we can hope for. I have a brother who has a developmental disability to a chromosomal abnormality. I feel her fatigue, and her feeling of being overwhelmed and that her world is crumbling. Her decision is right, so that child can be provided the best care.
'Her words make her sound like she hates her child.'
She probably does. You see so many stories from parents who don't put their kids into care and they spend their lives taking care of them. My uncle (who has since passed away) was 40 and still in diapers. It was so draining for my grandparents and my mother and other uncle went LC because of the neglect they suffered as a result of their parents constantly being focused on uncle. There are no memorials of uncle up around the house. His presence is gone. I can feel how my grandparents just... done. It's like they don't know anything else but care for uncle. I totally get the resentment and it's had an effect on myself and my siblings (generational trauma).
The mother's decision was correct, I 100% agree.
This remind me of a book a read of a disabled man who was thought to be completely unresponsive. Everyone from doctors to his family thought there was nothing going on in his brain, but in reality he was lucid and could hear everything! He heard his mother speak about him in the same way this lady spoke about her son, and was abused physically and s*xually. It wasn’t until he miraculously was able to move again that people realized he was lucid. Now he uses a computer to speak.
She absolutely made the best decision before infanti-/fratricide took place. Her words were definitely from a raw resentful place and I absolutely hope she talks to her therapist about that resent to maybe eventually heal enough so she can visit him someday.
That story made me bawl my eyes out
She sounds like a narcissist
On story #4: there’s no excuse for those parents. My grandma came to my outdoor wedding in December (it was in Arizona) even though she had double pneumonia. You don’t miss a wedding for someone ELSE’S dog. We all know who the favorite is there...
I don’t believe the dog was actually sick - sounds like an excuse to me
IF the dog was really that sick then maybe SHE could've stayed behind, and if it really was that serious then the parents could've returned earlier instead of missing the whole thing!!
@@daviddelara7158 it’s possible by sick they meant like maybe it got into some chocolate & the sister was freaking out scared. i don’t doubt it was a serious situation. However, if the sister is known to ruin moments in the your sons life, and she is a full grown adult woman.. when you have a wedding to attend that is your sons, you go to it. And tell the daughter i’m sorry, but you need to call the vet and do this on your own.
@@yea0000 if it WAS a serious situation, and not something the sister just made up, it's because she poisoned the dog herself. You really think it happened COINCIDENTALLY after op went so far as to make them promise they wouldn't do the exact thing that they did and had done multiple times in the past? No fucking way
Story 6 is really scary. The lack of remorse and accountability on the sisters part is mind blowing to me. She’s not “hurt”, she’s seething with envy and her obsession with pregnancy is unhinged. I also hope she doesn’t have a baby, because someone like her isn’t stable enough to be a mother
YES!! I hate the way they are acting and thinking the sister is some poor victim when OP IS THE REAL VICTIM!!
"they're an illegitimate heir who is going to get killed off"
Tell me Justin's been watching house of dragons without telling me lol
Hahaha this comment
He's on that HotD.
I’m on a tiktok detox 🙋🏻♀️ so I appreciate the backstory lol
You’re so fortunate
Same! I try to do the same with fb, IG and snap.
Same here! 3 weeks clean lol
I’m not and I still had no idea wtf they were talking about 🤣
Me too. I haven't been on in like 3 or 4 months ☠️
Story 4 -- I LOVE the best man for this. That is a hell of a good friend, keep him around and keep the video around. Parents made their bed, and have for years, time for them to live in it.
When Morgan started talking about a "popular reddit story on tiktok" I instantly started wheezing hard💀Justin's dead pan face as the song played is everything.
Story 5: so satisfying to hear the dad stick up for his son. The son doesn't need to hear that kind of vitriol directed at him.
The saying is “don’t knock it til ya try it” for future reference 😂 I knew what you meant Morgan!
YES OMG !! me and sayings... I tell ya they're tough lol
@@TwoHotTakes Don't look a mile in someone's shoes until you count all the eggs in your Hell handbasket, that's what I always say!
@@TwoHotTakes you might have also been looking for “i don’t wanna yuck someone’s yum” a little more sex specific 😂
Story 3. I can understand and even respect the mother for putting in an environment that will be more devoted to him. What I don’t fucking respect is her calling him names and letting her older son hit him. And putting her husbands death on him. She also needs to realise that her and the oldest son need therapy themselves.
I agree. she can't provide care for him anymore, a home is the best option.
That was what I was thinking too the whole time she read it. The name calling is just uncalled for
@@rhenaykorner4083 same and I felt sooooo sad when I found out the elder son hit him. Like we don’t know for sure that he can’t understand that. What if it hurt him and he just can’t communicate 💔 the older son is 12 and the younger son is 7 and disabled. The power imbalance is insane there.
Yeah the name calling and acting like he’s not even human was really uncomfortable. Calling him an “it” and an object so many times…I’m just glad he’s away from her care now.
I genuinely hope she seeks professional help and accepts the situation for what it was. Dealing with the loss of her partner and having all the physical and financial responsibility dropped into her lap is a lot for anyone to handle, let alone a single parent. I can only imagine the stress it put on her, and she didn’t ask for any of it. I just think it’s important for her to work out and understand that the poor kid didn’t ask for any of this either, and he couldn’t apologize or explain, even if he really wanted to. It’s not fair to put the blame on him for things he couldn’t control, he just…existed… and I guess that was too much for them. I just hope the kid and the mom find peace.
I’m glad there are people who agree with me. I did look at the original reddit thread and it was horrible.
The problem with enabling that behaviour is that it attracts ableism. There were way too many people in that thread egging on the name calling. That’s why it’s extremely important to call out that behaviour every single time it happens. I really couldn’t care less if they’re “ranting/trauma dumping”. You can do that without being a POS of a person.
Justin was so great in this episode. His comments were very thoughtful and understanding, I really enjoyed listening to his takes!
I have never once cried over any of the stories you have told, but as a mother of two children, granted they are both healthy, but I was balling over the story of the disabled child….I could never understand what she has gone through and I really feel for her and pray that she is able to heal from everything…BUT there is no excuse for some of things she said and allowed to happen to her child. Like allowing her older child to literally abuse the one who cannot fight back, whether he feels it or not. The way she talked about that baby, who didn’t choose this life and didn’t do anything to her to deserve her ugly words. Idk…that story really really upset me for her and for that baby. She is making the right choice taking him out of that toxic, abusive environment. I also hope she gets help though because it does sound like she needs some intense therapy.
The story about the child with the missing chromosome sickened me. I completely sympathize with how defeated, tired, and emotionally lost OP feels - but she took it way too far with the way she talked about her child. It was degrading and disgusting and borderline sociopathic. I know people are going to try and come at me with "She has trauma!" and "She has PTSD!" etc etc, and I get that - but having trauma and PTSD aren't all-access passes to just say and do whatever you want. And she said absolutely horrendous things about her child and allowed her other child to beat him. There are parents out there who are in the same position as her and love their child fiercely. Jesus christ. It made me sick to hear.
I totally agree. She should show him love no matter what. She says she would love a downs baby but I feel like she would be a bad mom.
the names she used and way she talked about the child was so uncalled for
Yes! Parents should be their child's number one advocate!
I wholeheartedly agree. She has the perfect, silent, innocent, scapegoat to blame all her sorrows on. She will never know if her husband really killed himself or if he made a human error. It doesn't matter. She's choosing and living this chilling awful idea as reality and is taking it out on a literal child. I hope she has the decency to re-home her son somewhere that is safe, caring, and understanding. She is none of those things. She will feel guilty one day, as will her other son. I can't imagine the trauma this will inflict on all three individuals. I wonder if and when things get hard with her able son, who will she blame then?
YES. It is abuse. I commented something earlier but deleted in fear no one would agree. I’m so glad I’m on the same page as someone. It’s enraged me & I haven’t stopped thinking about it. Not going to lie, I am disappointed with the commentary on this one. There is no excuse to treat your son this way.
“Sometimes if you shit where you eat, it could be the best meal you’ve ever had” was the most profound yet ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard 😂😂😂
I was looking for this comment because yes! Haha. Justin was so great in this episode!
The mother of the disabled child made the right decision by putting him in a home, but we need to take into consideration that that child did not ask to be born. It's not his fault that he has such severe disabilities. The abuse that mother showed her child because he was too difficult for her???? Disgusting. Tell us you don't love him. Fine! Tell us you're no longer going to be taking care of him. FINE! But calling him names like potato, cucumber, etc. is so vile. She made the right choice, but she's still so wrong for her thoughts and actions.
Well said!
She knew he had disability but still chooses to go through with it. Now she’s complaining that he’s taking up her and her family time. She’s the one who signed up for this and now she’s backing out.
I mean, it does sound like it's a vegetaive state. Not a away to live for anyone
@@ipayyoutowork7396 no, she was told he’d have Down’s syndrome
@@BeepBoop-z2v that’s true but her hatred and abuse of him is unfounded. She chose to have him. Regardless of if you feel he should die it should not be acceptable for her to abuse him
Story 7 made me so happy 🥺 I hope the two dads go for it and have a great relationship. So happy for them admitting their feelings and exploring their sexuality.
Soon as I saw "confessions" Usher started singing in my brain. 🖤
Same! Hahaha
It's always Amelia Fart's rendition for me though 😅
These are my confessions
The third story really got to me and I feel like it needs to be said that what the mother decided to do is completely okay. I work at a residential home for people with developmental and intellectual disabilities and it truly is the most rewarding work. However the mother clearly has no love and compassion for her own son and thats where i have a problem. I understand how hard it is to care for these individuals. I care for 12 at a time almost everyday but to use slurs and call them anything less than human is just wrong. Especially coming from a parent. Its okay to need that extra support and help because I understand how hard it is, i couldnt even imagine being a single mother. But dont make them out to be less then worthy of your love, that’s cruel.
@𝑴𝒂𝒆𝒍𝒊. imagine if you were that kid. U dont know if the kid can completely think and understand or not. And if shes been resenting this kid then she might not be giving them the kinda emvironment that would help them develop especially if shes letting the other kid beat the child and if she can call her child a thing on the internet she might be saying that and worse at home in private. And she might be blaming all her problems on the defenseless kid. Its hard definitely and the facility is the best decision but her lack of love towards the child can not be justified by any mental illness. Mental illness doesnt justify abuse.
@𝑴𝒂𝒆𝒍𝒊. No, no... The mother dehumanized a child that had no choice in his condition. She is absolutely disgusting for calling him one name, but to keep doing it like it's okay? No. Her decision to put him in residential care is best for everyone, but she can GFH for her choice to refer to her child how she did. There was NO reason for that because the child didn't deserve it. She just shits on him completely. I understand being angry and needing to release that energy, but she was SO wrong for her post. I am imagining how I would feel in her situation, and I still wouldn't post on a public forum and degrade a child I birthed. She also said she would doxx herself... what about her other child? Stupid, reckless, and selfish. I wouldn't be surprised if someone beat the hell out of him if they found out who he was, and worse for the mother.
@𝑴𝒂𝒆𝒍𝒊. i think that the commenter is wrong and right. her decision is good and makes sense. i dont think she should have watched him get the shit beat out of him. or called him a cucumber.
Story 6: I have a VERY similar situation. I’m 25 with 2 kids and my sister is 33 has struggled with infertility for 10 years & has had multiple miscarriages. She has been jealous…. But if she ever destroyed my childrens belongings I would be so mad. The younger sister, is NOT the asshole. That’s horrible of her sister.
I may have an unpopular opinion but the mom talking about her disabled child like that made me sick to my stomach. I can’t imagine being in that position and how devastating that would be but the way she spoke about that child is so uncalled for. I don’t necessarily disagree with her decision but she speaks about that child like he is that way by choice, like he is that way just to spite her. That child did not ask to be born, especially not with that condition but he is here because of her and her husband and he needs help. I feel blaming everything that has gone wrong in her life on this child is not fair, she knew he would have some sort of disability and decided to move on with the pregnancy, she is partly responsible. I just feel as though she talks like it’s his fault he is that way, it’s not and to call him such horrific names is unnecessary.
This !!!!
Honesty and on top of those words, to allow the older sibling to hit and scream at him, hoping death and many other things as well is not ok at all. I want to know the story of her husband because she said that he took an action that made his coworkers or friends not be around for the industrial accident, so she thinks he killed himself because of there sons condition which I think added to the resentment, the words/abuse, and as well as eventually her decision. She asked what we think we'd do in her position, I personally think I'd love him unconditionally but would seek help, whether that was an in-home nurse or friends and family, as well as try to set time aside for the other child that feels neglected and resentful as well.
no shade but have you ever taken care of someone incapable of moving for more than a month? empathy eventually turns to indifference, indifference turns to resentment, and resentment turns into rage. seven years of that without even an indication that you’re helping this person or enriching their life in anyway is not something either of us can understand, and it’s silly that you think you’re better than this person for having human thoughts and emotions considered taboo.
@@hannahsteusloff9864 I feel that her resentment is geared towards her child mainly because she lost her husband. Her feelings are based off of the assumption that her husband left this world because of their son, when she doesn’t really know the truth. I have not only worked with kids with exceptionalities , but have some in the family as well (not to this degree) . I would never think about my child in the way she is thinking of him , especially with the use of language to describe him (potato, it,etc)
@@hannahsteusloff9864 The issue I have with that is she was an adult when she gave birth to this child. She states she was fine having a down syndrome baby, even "looking forward to it," regardless of if it was "profoundly disabled." The reality of that is that there are ALSO down syndrome children who have symptoms nearly identical to that of the OPs son, unable to communicate, move, or express anything, and largely unaware of their surroundings. She expresses resentment for the "round the clock care,"- there are downs children who ALSO require round the clock care.
She clearly was not suited to take care of ANY special needs child, let alone a profoundly disabled one. Upon realizing this, as the adult, knowing her own emotional capabilities, she had every opportunity from birth until seven years old to give that child up to a residential home, an adoptive family, whatever. Instead, she openly admits to unlovingly and begrudgingly taking care of that child for seven years, on top of neglecting her other child. She then blames her husband's possible suicide, which was on the husband, on this disabled child. She could have relinquished her rights to that child FAR before it ever reached the stage of allowing her other child to openly abuse her disabled child right in front of her.
The OP made the choice to keep a child she knew she couldn't emotionally care for, and then blames that disabled child for her own resentment and poor choices. While I can have empathy for a parent in this terrible scenario, empathy for normal feelings of resentment, and so forth, this level of hatred is absolutely uncalled for and is projection to a degree I have never seen. And on top of that, as a grown adult to suggest she can simply "drop him off and forget about him" is neurotic. In no scenario will that occur- she is not getting her mind wiped by amnesia formula, she's just openly admitting she doesn't want him, never really wanted him, never really had a grasp on severe disability, and made a wrong choice that she cannot emotionally reconcile with herself. Had this child been downs and also required round the clock care, her reaction would likely have been the same.
She needs intense and long term therapy, and, quite frankly, it sounds like she is not emotionally capable of caring for her other child either.
Morgan said “inspire me on top” the all of a sudden Justin said “say less” 😂😂
For Story 5:
OP’s mom, talking about OP’s kid: “Stick it in a facility!”
OP, talking about his mom: “Will do.”
Love it. NTA. Good on that dude for defending his kid.
I really appreciate the kindness Justin gives to everyone evolved in the situation. Destroying thousands worth of baby things for new parents is cruel in several kinds of ways, but the kind of hurt you've got to have inside of you to do that kind of thing? To your SISTER no less? I agree with Morgan when she says that the woman didn't own up to her actions, but I it sounds like that happened directly after being caught. Expecting rationality isn't rational. If she doesn't get any help for her obvious problems and she doesn’t apologize, I agree, cut her out... But it sounds like this woman had a mental breakdown. Get her help.
What bothers me the most about what happened is that it I doesn't just effect the parents, it effects the child. That kid will not have a good place to sleep, or diapers or anything. Be cruel to adults as much as you want, but never be cruel to a baby.
Some friends of mine aborted at 8 months pregnant their kid because it was detected that their child would have had this condition... they were big Christians... but wanted their kid to be able to enjoy life and have feelings, just be able to live with awareness. I feel for that woman 😔
That third story makes me sick. I remember seeing it on tiktok and the way that people defended the mother and spoke about that poor child was horrid. This is probably a VERY unpopular opinion, but she IS a horrible person. Not because she is putting her child in a home, but because she emotionally and verbally abuses her 7 year old son. Because she stands by and allows his older brother to physically abuse him. That is why she is a terrible person.
I can't imagine how hard it is for her to be going through all that stress, but she has crossed a line which takes away all my sympathy for her. She is a horrible person because she is an abusive parent.
I'm happy that she's putting him in a home, but simply because that boy will now (hopefully) be away from an abusive household. I just hope that she puts that poor little boy in a decent medical facility that will treat him with dignity and respect and advocate for him, rather than a home that will continue to treat him as a worthless object.
The way she speaks about her child doesn't convey exhaustion, it conveys strong and passionate hatred, loathing. There is no doubt in my mind that the things she says about him in that post are said directly to that poor little boy's face. She has stood by and watched as her older son beat and abused that little boy. I wouldn't be shocked if she has physically lashed out at him before.
It doesn't matter whether the child is aware/feels pain or not, it is still abuse. If a non-disabled child was in a deep sleep or under general anasthesia (and therefore unaware) and their mother verbally abused them in that way and allowed somebody to beat them, you wouldn't try to defend it or excuse it. Even if somebody has no knowledge or memory of someone abusing them, it doesn't change the fact that the abuser did it.
In the 4th story, the parents need to acknowledge they messed up. They aren't sorry they're just mad that everyone knows what kind of parents they are.
I just cannot with the sister who snapped and destroyed the baby items in front of twin toddlers. I would never be able to forgive that behavior, mental break down or not. 100% would file a police report and attempt to get a protection order- she could have hurt the children. I have empathy for her because fertility struggles for women obviously cut seriously deep.. but for me, this is such a violation of trust. I could never respect her again.
I am with you on this. I would keep her literally and metaphorically at arms length (or more) at all times. You can have empathy for someone and maintain your own boundaries.
story 4 is EPIC that best man was fed tf up with his besties parents and I love that for both the best man and the husband! glad he has a supportive and hilarious bff and wife
That wedding one made me feel SOOOO GOOD!!! That was beyond a satisfying revenge and I’m glad they didn’t take it down after finding out.
The husband's friend is AMAZING! This is nuts how they could miss their son's wedding and she was upset... they are only allowed to miss the wedding because of an accident or something impeding
The third story horrified me so much. I can’t even imagine. I can’t actually put my head in that space. I don’t know how Morgan got through this story with her voice so calm. I’m heart broken. This poor mother should have put him into a care home long, long ago. Her son was a vegetable. He should have been in a hospital his entire life! Because he actually stayed in her home she became so eaten up with resentment for him that she saw her child as a monster... she was so full of hate… If he was in a home it would have been sad but livable.
Edit: just read they weren’t able to put him into hospice. This was just so sad.
She didn't put him a facility sooner because she did love him. I am sure she still does, but is burnt out.
i'm barely into the third story but i am so frustrated and angry. i'm not a mother so i can only imagine the stress and the emotional "damage" of having two young children, one of which needing constant care. i can sympathise with that. there is no harm in holding your hands up and admitting that you can't do it anymore, that you need help or that caring for the child is taking a toll on you - there should be absolutely no shame in that. however, i take issue with the way she talks about the child. it's one thing to admit you're struggling but another to push the blame onto someone who didn't choose this life. i could understand a child doing something awful and telling them "you're not my child, i didn't raise you like this" in a moment of anger, but to bluntly say that your child is a thing and not a child because of his disability - that's too fucking far. putting him in a facility was the best choice she made, not for herself, but for the wellbeing of the child. i just hope that she goes out and gets the help that she needs because what i'm hearing is not healthy.
Yes. The decision is justified but the vileness with which she writes about her child made me lose all empathy for her. He did not ask to be here. OP knew he would be disabled and brought him into the world under the presupposition that she would love and care for him. I know she didn’t anticipate the level of care he would require but that is absolutely not his fault AT ALL. To blame him for her husband’s suicide, to blame him for her son’s anger, to blame him for her shitty life when this was 1000% a conscious decision she made is abhorrent. If her son has any level of consciousness or awareness, this life is utter hell for him. On top of all his medical problems his family hates him for existing and that is truly tragic.
I felt ill listening to this story…
No wonder she has lost the ability to make medical decisions for her child. I think the grandmother was doing what she could for her grandchilds safety.
@@lauren3227 I think she’s on the verge of a serious mental break (understandably so with everything she’s been through) and that’s where the vile language is coming from. It’s definitely not okay but I dont think she’s some awful sadistic person. She’s clearly at her wits end.
@@ling2555 you can be awful and sadistic during mental breakdowns.
I think the one about the disabled child is just one of those topics people don't like to hear the truth on. Truth is parents can absolutely hate their children, not want them, loathe being around them, etc. And getting rid of them sometimes is the best option for both the child and the parent. Nobody likes to hear the way the mother speaks about her son, but that is the reality that a lot parents silently face. Clearly OP has some mental health issues that need to be addressed, but if she can't fully explain how she feels to someone without judgment how can she get better? This is why so many people snap and end up committing atrocious crimes because nobody will listen and they are shamed for how they feel instead of being given the help they need.
Morgan is cracking me up with the, "Should we try it."
But Agreed...🤣🤣🤣
whoever the best man is is the GOAT! That is what best friends are for when your family support is nowhere to be found. I read this story myself and I died laughing when reading and then got angry when OPs family got upset and mad about ehat they did which was....MISSING THEIR OWN SONS WEDDING TO MAKE SISTER FEEL BETTER! the only way I could ever see the family can "make up" for missing the wedding is if they are willing to pay for another wedding reception so it is guarantee they won't miss it. but I don't think that'll happen and OP needs to cut them out and live his life with his new wife who sounds lovely and his best friend as it shows who is REAL family is
Should have Justin give Morgan stories to react to. She goes in blind but he picked all the stories.
The person who calls the cops on every party their partner goes to without them is TOXIC and needs therapy asap. I had an emotionally abusive partner a decade ago who did that to me once and it still sticks with me to this day. That is such a disgusting thing to do.
Wait wait wait. With story 1 she said he had a very “strange taste in music” which her family agreed with was terrible yet he still thought there wasn’t an issue to use the song that she called strange years ago
Well calling something strange doesn't mean dislike. I think my taste in music is strange but I love my music.
@@pinkiichi her parents called it terrible. Usually when someone calls something strange they don’t mean it in a good way.
@@taylah6822 key word is her PARENTS. Not her. Or did I miss her agreeing?? I remember op saying he pretended to agree but not the gf agreeing
@@pinkiichi but realistically, why would you want to fuck to a song that you find strange? thats not really a positive review, if someone called your sex song strange i dont think that means they love it and want to keep going w it
His thought process was “music is subjective” so her family saying it was bad he didn’t take offense to it because not everyone has the same music taste. That being said, music can be subjective but not in all cases, because well, some music sucks.
With the baby product story, personally I think that the breaking point for the infertile sister was when her fertile sister offered surrogacy. Probably felt like she was flaunting her fertility at her when she's clearly not in her right mind. The infertile sister wants a full term pregnancy, not a baby at this point.
That's my thoughts exactly! Some people think it's about having a baby.... it's more than that. Having a surrogate doesn't fix the problem or isn't always the answer.
In my mind that solidifies that she shouldn't have kids. If you want kids but you're so set in the way you get those kids that you will put someone else's kid in danger/cost the new parents thousands, you don't have the emotional maturity to have kids. Go to therapy, lady. This isn't your sister's fault, and you have more issues than infertility.
I can see some people getting offended , it's like when people suggest ivf or egg donation etc. And they get upset for even suggesting that as solution. Because the process is very important to them and they want everything to be as natural as possible. But the great thing about living in today's era is that there are more options to conceive and more treatments available so there is more hope.
But its so unfair to take it out on your sister who has no fault or bearing on your fertility. She could communicate her emotions like and adult but she didn't.
@@teenytinyflame Yes! I feel like she’s one of those people that wouldn’t treat an adopted kid as one of her own. I can definitely see her viewing adopted kids as “not really part of the family. In my opinion, people with these old ignorant mindsets shouldn’t have kids, period. Like really dude? You absolutely NEED your child to be of YOUR dna. It’s just so narcissistic to me.
Came here for this!!!
To the side piece who doesn’t feel bad - just as long as there aren’t feelings, cause that NEVER goes well
You are being WAY too kind to Cbat guy 🤣 Man's had all the music in the world and went with THAT. Not even on the beat but on the rythim. That poor, poor, woman.
Story 3: I agree that the child is safer outside of that home but the mother is absolutely despicable for letting his other child physically abuse the disabled child. Calling him an "it"??? That's a human being no matter if you don't feel capable of loving him, the least he deserves is respect. I really hope that child is being treated properly now wherever he was put in. Feeling really sad for him.
With story 6 I low key wonder if the aunt didn’t have the kids help her with the destruction. Like oooh look how much fun we can have making this big mess.
I picture a Mommy Dearest level breakdown. Screaming, facial contortions, thrashing about and once it's all over, act calm and collected like it never happened.
Had to pause and laugh when y’all said you’re cover the song 😂😂😂😂👏🏻
Story 3: damn. This sucks. I hope it’s not true. I hope she doesn’t kill herself. I don’t think it’s wrong to put him in a facility but to be so abusive for what she calls him when she acknowledges he may be in there and not able to communicate. This boy didn’t choose to be born but she chose to have him, it’s ok that she can’t care for him but to be so verbally abusive is not excusable. No matter what abuse is never ok! I have sympathy for what she went though but to call him malignant is horrible and not excusable. It also is a red flag that she was ‘excited’ for a downs baby…it signals to me she saw having a special needs child as a status symbol not an actual child. It reminds me of those people who googled ‘easy special needs conditions’ when trying to adopt a kid.
I don’t think she’s completely terrible but I do think her words count as verbal/emotional abuse.
In this situation…personally I may put them into care…but I would try my best to never become abusive like this.
Couldn't have said it better!
this exactly. i truly wouldn't blame her for putting him into a facility that would provide and care for him in ways she can't with her deteriorating mental health and other child to care for after her husbands death, but i WOULD and DO blame her for being downright abusive to her child, yk what i mean?
there is just such a HUGE difference between putting your child in a facility because you can not adequately care for them, and considering your child some sort of non-human "thing" that you let your other child beat while you watch. egh.
Honesty and on top of those words, to allow the older sibling to hit and scream at him, hoping death and many other things as well is not ok at all. I want to know the story of her husband because she said that he took an action that made his coworkers or friends not be around for the industrial accident, so she thinks he killed himself because of there sons condition which I think added to the resentment, the words/abuse, and as well as eventually her decision. She asked what we think we'd do in her position, I personally think I'd love him unconditionally but would seek help, whether that was an in-home nurse or friends and family, as well as try to set time aside for the other child that feels neglected and resentful as well
literally what i said ab her being excited for a disabled childs "special talents"
reminds me of how society only values autistic ppl when they are a genius child prodigy
did she think her kid was gonna be rain man??😭😡
Imagine that your mother and brother physically and verbally abuse you while you laying there taking it all in and can’t even defend yourself against it. Instead you have to take it all in and can’t even unalive yourself when you wanted to just so everyone could be happy. Christ…
When Justin said "isn't is crazy how close loathe is to love" I was like damn Imma need a minute to process that haha
“Stick it in a facility” he really said B*TCH I’ll stick YOU in a facility
Story 5. When the sister told this man it was cruel what he was doing to their mother, my first thought was "it's cruel what your mother said about his kid". Family is chosen, and I'd have chosen to leave her in hospice to rot.
THE LAST STORY im so so happy for him, thank you for putting it last morgan it definitely took some of the bad energies the others gave!
The story of the Mother putting her son in a facility was heartbreaking and difficult to listen to as a mother myself. I couldn't imagine having another baby and having to sacrifice everything for their care including my other child's happiness. This mother tried everything for 7 years by herself, living with the knowledge that her spouse couldn't handle it either. Imagine for a moment witnessing one child beating the other because of frustration, sadness and anger. Realizing that they need you more now than ever, and you can't help them. Your disabled child is now in danger, you've been struggling to love them for years, to give them the best life they can have, at the expense of your and your older child's quality of life. How could anyone make that choice. I think we sometimes forget that "Quality of Life" is important too. Not just for them but her younger child too. I agree with everyone's comments below about her terms for her child, but maybe seeing her older child so damaged from this emotionally and hurting the younger was the final straw that broke her back. By referring to them as an object instead of a person she's preparing herself for a hard decision and trying to reconcile that within herself. I honestly couldn't imagine making that choice, and if the older child wasn't there maybe wouldn't have made it.
The child in a facility story is horrific. I understand how she could feel resentful but to hate him so much and call him “it” “potato” “thing” and say he doesn’t feel pain or have a personality or anything is scary. With all that said, I’m glad that she’s at least putting him in a facility because God knows with all of his medical conditions that she could have done something much worse and passed it off as an accident. I think I’d be heartbroken too if I were in her situation but it seems like she had hatred for him which is just sad.
When I saw your background for the second story I immediately thought of the cabin story. Where each family pays $200-400 for repairs😂
Confession: I don't use TikTok 😅 (I found Justin's reaction about those who haven't checked TikTok in 2 weeks funny)
With the music playlist I’m thinking that his girlfriend felt tired of everything being so rehearsed and the same. It’s hard to feel like your partner is fully connecting with you with such a set routine and especially considering he admitted to thinking of the song while they were having sex without music. Basically means he can’t be present in the moment with her.
For awhile way way back, I had an annoying pairing between an old ipod and an old car stereo, so whenever I connected them, the exact same song would start playing. I began to HATE that song, just because I couldn't play anything else for about 20 seconds every single time I started my car. It wasn't even a bad song, it was just the repetition and the feeling of being held hostage by it. I eventually went in and put in a blank track with a name that the car picked up first (it was alphabetical). I literally cannot imagine this situation with my sex life! I wouldn't have lasted 2 years, that's for sure!
Also it had literally been THE SAME playlist for TWO YEARS?!?!?
The rustling trees in the background are so calming. I hope you guys film more outdoor episodes soon
I have 4 daughters. Three I gave birth to. One is my soul baby. She is 19. In college and my parents are her grandparents and she Is whole heartedly accepted and always has been. I couldn't imagine my mom saying she wasn't mine. Smh
I’m a retired LEO and have worked tons of car crashes. NEVER EVER ride w your feet on the dash. All the ones I worked where a passenger had their foot or feet on the dash always had more extreme injuries than those whose feet were on the floor. It’s incredibly dangerous and the majority of them ended up in the floorboard w their knees/feet by their heads. Some of their legs were through the windshield and near mutilated by the glass/metal etc. and it didn’t matter if they had seatbelts on or not there is no escaping major injuries riding in that position. Please never ride like that. As this poor young woman found out it’s a devastating injury.
36:48 Those little decisions you make... that part hit hard.
When I lived with a roomie, we both worked at Olive Garden. We'd have coworkers over and have pool parties and wake & bake BBQ days.
Well this beautiful, young girl, fresh out of high school, started working with us. Me and my roomie, both gay, took her under our wing.
I remember the morning she showed up, I was sitting on the porch drinking coffee, she had just gotten her tongue pierced, and she wasn't sure if she could work that day.
All three of us worked a DBD(From lunch until dinner's business declined) and met up back at our place, I wasn't feeling well so I fell asleep on the couch, but my roomie and this other girl from work were deep into talking about something on the other house porch, so our friend gave me a hug, told me to feel better, she was going to go home and rest because her tongue hurt, and left.
That was the last time anyone saw her alive. She hit a strip of gravel from road work and flipped her Honda into a pine tree.
One of the saddest moments of my life. I didn't even find out until I got to work the next day...
I wish I would have stayed up, drank a beer with her, smoked some green... she would have stayed the night then. It's been just over nine years... feels like it was yesterday.
I lost my best friend almost 10 years ago, last time we talked I told him I was too busy with finals but that we will talk when I finish, hung up the video chat and that was it. Few days later he was killed by a drunk driver while taking a girl home, I just could stop thinking that if he had gone straight home that wouldn’t have happened because he lived just a few blocks back, or if maybe he wouldn’t be the one driving or if I had invited him out instead, took me years to deal with the fact that the only one at fault was that driver
Justin’s reaction to CBAT is so funny.
Story 5; OP is NTA but it sounds like sister may have had a mental break and may not have been aware of her actions. I find it hard to believe the sister intentionally fucked up her surrogate situation. Sister needs intense help ASAP. I agree with the comment that says to contact the police and getting sister mental help.
But to not even admit that it was her and blame the twins. At the very least admit wrongdoing and pay up since the newborn literally does not have a bed because of her.
@@katrinascarlet5637 I’m not arguing any of that but there’s a chance she honestly doesn’t remember any of it. I still don’t think OP is the AH and would encourage her to take any action necessary to protect herself and her kids though. Hopefully the sister gets help.
The story about the child with special needs made me cry. I used to be a paraprofessional for students with special needs that had major medical needs. In just the couple months I was with one school (I transferred from a lasso 3- students with autism that need 1:1 aid to this school in April), I had 2 students confined to a hospital bed. One "communicated" by blinking. It was an absolutely heart breaking story to hear.
Story 3, all i want is to hold that poor child close and tell him he matters, hes worth the trouble, and he is loved. My heart breaks for him
For the woman (I’m not calling her a mother because she’s anything but) to talk about a CHILD like that and WATCH as her other child abused him, she needs intense inpatient therapy (and in my opinion, charges for child abuse/neglect). I get caregiver burnout, and all that but there is no excuse for those words or actions. The child is non verbal- how does she know he can’t feel pain or have feelings- HE CANT EXPRESS THEM. What a disgusting human. I hope that poor baby gets a good cna/nurse at the inpatient facility that will shower him with the love and empathy that his own “mother” couldn’t give him.
EXACTLY I WAS SCREAMING HOW DO YOU KNOWWWW
poor kid must be so traumatized
Thank youuuuu! To treat such a harmless child like this is truly evil.
As a mom, this broke my heart.. I feel she blames her child for the death of her husband. The way she speaks of her son is so disrespectful. Regardless of the disability it’s a human being.. I don’t know what it’s like to have a disabled child and I’m sure it’s extremely difficult but if she despised him she should have had him moved to a care home long time ago. To me this poor child has had to deal with emotional abuse/physical. Just bc he’s not verbal like you aren’t to sure if he feels pain or not. I’m so heartbroken..
The dying mom sorry made me so mad, how can someone say such awful things about a child. Also if the sister cares so much she can move back and take care of her mom
Someone who feels entitled to destroying the living space of a newborn out of jealousy, putting them and their caretaker’s finances at risk, SHOULDN’T have children though.
Someone who flies into blind rages and destroys the home of two three-year-olds in front of them while their guardians are away and have entrusted with them with their care SHOULDN’T be in charge of the well-fare of ANY child EVER.
“I hope you never have children” isn’t an insult to the sister at that point. It is a sincere hope that she is never in the position to traumatize or endanger any more children that she already has.
the way Morgan descirbes the last story and them staring at each other. its like they're being seen for the first time and omg my heart
The story of the mom talking about her son has me sick. I actually started crying. She was abusive end of story.
She is at a bottom and thankfully she is doing the right thing by putting him in a facility. Hopefully she can get the help she needs to heal from everything including her husbands suicide.
@@hollystiener16 I agree 100% but it really really broke my heart to hear her talk about him like that.
@@desireebetts2332 Yes, it was unsettling. She is angry and probably feels a lot of guilt. It is her a way distancing herself for the child, I believe.
Period. I’m at work and I want to throw up. It made me sick and so sad.
So, the 3rd story and what you said about some people saying these people shouldn't exist reminded me of a case that happened in Japan, 2016. This guy who used to be a career at a facility killed 19 severely disabled residents. I was disgusted by this case, but there were quite a lot of people on the internet that kind of agreed with what the murderer did. It is really scary to think...
Japan has a huge eugenics issue. There are many people over there who believe in their nation creating a ‘superior population’. Which is why the government tried for decades to “prevent” anyone with disabilities and other mental or neurological disorders to be born and or hidden away.
@@rai2423 so yeah, the law was placed till mid 90s from the 40s so it was there for a long time. The Osaka supreme court has ruled in favor of paying compensation for the victims that were forcibly given surgery to prevent them from having children last year (i think), so it's moving in the right direction overall I'd say, but very very slow.
@@nekominato1570 yeah I know it’s sad tho.
“I overflowed the toilet but this isn’t my house so I’m not cleaning it” - a real statement from a customer during my time working at a dispensary. Idk why homie didn’t keep it to himself Lmao
Justin seems like such a truly empathetic person. I love how open he and Morgan are to each perspective in a story ❤️
The comments for the official upload of that song the guy did the deed to had me laughing so hard I was crying! Personally, not a fan of the song because all I can think of is someone picking out Garage Band sample beats and then auto tuning a squeaky door. 🤣
What is the song?!
@@cugglymonster Cbat- Hudson Mohawke
Tbh on the miscarriage story- this might be insensitive but honestly I understand the jealousy but the emotional immaturity to go out of her way to destroy everything the sister had- I hope she doesn't have kids, someone with that level of emotional volatility is not prepared to care for a child. To do that kind of damage and the to continually try to blame it on CHILDREN. OP maaaybe wasn't right to say that but that doesn't make it any less true. This person clearly feels entitled to a child at this point which is not a good mindset to go into parenthood.
I am fully crying over the last story I love hearing about older queer people discovering themselves
I love how fiery Justin was in this episode🤣 big mood!!!
Who child that mom! There’s a special
Place under the ground for her. She has no idea who is inside that child’s body! There is clear evidence that when people are medically fragile like her son, they are lucid but literally CANNOT protect themselves!!! Oh
Good lord that child needs to be somewhere he can be cared for. Oh my god her letting him go is the best thing she could do for that child. I just can’t. Can’t have sympathy for her.
Calm down. She's not a bad person. That kid has zero awareness. Imagine being a slave to taking care of a body with essentially no brain. It's like 6 full time jobs in one, with no benefits for anybody. Her other child is suffering greatly. Take your judgmental ass out of here.
I think OP with the disabled song should talk about her feelings and real thoughts about her son with her therapist. Caregiver fatigue is frustrating and beats you down, I watched it destroy parents of the special needs kids I worked with. I hate how expensive care and programs are, I wish more people could get the necessary help to care for loved ones. I hope OP talking to a therapist can eventually visit her son again in the care home.
That last story was probably the best one I can remember on the podcast. I'm ecstatic about how adorable it was. Justin thought the best play was the "did you take me on a date?" question by the other guy, but I feel like the whole night was a perfectly combined effort that needed all the pieces for it to go anywhere.
If OP didn't treat it like a date and admit his feelings in what was basically a lite "coming out", the friend may never have been willing to ask about it being a date, or saying he could relate. OP wouldn't have come out if the friend hadn't shown concern and asked him what was up. The friend wouldn't have asked him if OP never sent any odd signals or treated the night so special.
It's important to note that at their age they've likely seen enough homophobia to know that you can't really talk about these things without a really particular build-up. The conversation could've easily halted or gone south at any point. The conversation had to break the ice on preconceived notions of toxic masculinity, homophobia, and rejection before it could get so far. And it's incredible it ended as it did. What I will say is that the friend did pull a grand double whammy for asking if it was a date, right after saying that he could relate.
That last story was such a breath of fresh air and thank you for reading it to us. I feel so happy for them and it felt like I had some butterflies in my stomach too. The OP for that story is quite a good story teller, gave me all the feels.
I dont use tiktok and have never used tiktok. Like ive seen them that people have sent to me, but my adhd is so bad that i need to be actively doing something and listening to things as background noise and tiktok just doesnt mesh with my brand of neurodivergence
Wow you just put this into words for me. I’ll occasionally use tiktok, but mostly just to look at what my friends have sent me, and only at work when there’s a lull and I don’t have anything else to be focusing on. I get that for some people the quick videos are preferable because they don’t require much focus, but my brain has to be doing something else while taking in content
@@samanthalowry6021 yesssss that is us! We are valid!
lmaooo justin being so over the first story
The story about the disabled kid, I've heard it before and every time it gives me a bit in my stomach as a disabled individual. Because the exhaustion, the guilt, the financial troubles, the resentment, the overload of responsibilities is not something I'll blame someone for feeling, being a carer, especially with other children to raise is incredibly hard, and having the kid in a care home is the good choice, for the other children's wellbeing (if they get therapy), for the OP and for the youngest, because I can only see the physical abuse from the other children at some point happen from the mum as well, not our of malice, but out of mental degradation.
But seeing how she talks about her son as essentially a subhuman... that is unacceptable for me. Talking about this boy like this, even if she resents him, like that is so awful. This is eugenics level of dehumanization, and we wouldn't refer about a coma patient as a cucumber; or an elderly person with advanced dementia as a potatoes. It reminds me of a book called 'I gifted my son with death' about the testimony of a woman who murdered her 3 year old disabled son because he was, according to her, not a person enough. Seeing how frequently non disabled pêople are quick to dehumanize disabled people and be ready to discard them when they're not disabled the 'correct' way makes me sick. The fact OP was excited to raise a kid with Down Syndrome also seems weird and clearly misinformed because Trisomy comes on a spectrum and most people with down syndrome have less autonomy than the small percentage that we see on social media, many need life long care of some sort. Perhaps it's time that before having children, people make sufficient research into what it means to raise a disbaled kid, because most people with born disabilities arrive in insufficiently educated families, which leads to abandonment like here, or mistreatment, either through neglect, physical or mental abuses
I had a horrible, horrible childhood where my mother signed off on me at 14, and my dad was super absent even when I did live with him. I cut ties with my whole family and have an arms length relationship with my father. With that said, I still have a huge family, non blood related people have helped me learn the life skills my blood relationships failed to teach me. The lady giving me equine therapy adopted me, and her family friend, thats still a doctor who is still to this day, pays for my counseling and has helped me this year so much. I couldn't have asked for a better family. And it feels better knowing they don't need to love me and help me, but they do because they truly truly care and want to watch me succeed. My blood family acts as if I never existed and put the blame on me because it's easier than facing what the real issues are.
I think it'd be amazing if for the wholesome episode coming up you, Justin, and the reason of the gang could all chill with blankets like a sleepover while sharing the wholesome reddit stories with us 🥰