@@TwoHotTakes no problem, always watching when someone alredy commented, or you have in description, but i was super early and was like i can do at this time
I stumbled across as tik tok of Meghan trainor and I thought it was Morgan, never realized how much you guys look alike! Haven’t seen Meghan trainor in years but her 2022 era is so similar to Morgan’s vibe.
For story number one with the twin boys, I KNEW something was off about it. I finally did a little digging and the mother of that story is 1000% not the victim. I hope you guys get to read that post in an update or something.
Hahahaha so I didn’t mention this on the video but my roommate started nicknaming her dog my nickname and I was having such a hard time with it 😂 I tried to get over it but I finally confused to her how I felt about it
When I was a teen, my neighbor boys named their dog my name and “Christy” isn’t a common name for a dog. I didn’t have a bad relationship with the family or the boys themselves. I don’t think I was a bitch to have a bitch named after me; I was a shy, quiet girl who didn’t really socialize due to extracurriculars that were exhausting. It was so bizarre to me.
Odette is about as unique as Hermione. It's a well known name (because of the materiel the name is associated with) but not many people actually HAVE that name.
To anyone interested: After going to the first story on Reddit, I think OP is a narcissist if what I read was true. Allegedly she has a daughter who is older (she claimed they were her only kids..interesting) and the daughter had a completely different story. She claimed OP was an abuser to all of them, dad got custody, and the boys didn’t actually react that way. She claimed (made a post about this that might be deleted now idk) that they politely thanked her but weren’t thrilled because they don’t know her very well and dislike her bc of their history. We never truly know the real version of these stories, as people can paint a prettier picture. And who knows, maybe the daughters post wasn’t real? Someone also commented that OP’s comment history is 🚩🚩I definitely felt like some details were left out, and I really just can’t imagine that happening the way she said it did.
Literally just commented something similar. I have ppl in my family that are very narcissistic and will make it about themselves when it’s not/take things personal when it’s not & that’s the vibe I was getting from mom!
So glad I found this comment! I was thinking the SAME thing the entire story. I always side with women and abuse victims but I just had this gut feeling that the mom was a total narcissist. It doesn't make any sense that the entire family is against her for no reason, extended family included. And it seems like dad probably has custody of the kids. Its also a total narc move to say such a bold and intense insult in hopes that they will come crawling back begging for forgiveness. Definitely gave me red flags for sure.
Story 2: OP and her husband are completely abhorrent for this. They knew this was the name their sibling & his partner had chosen to give to a very much wanted and loved child. Added to that he lost their the unborn baby, and his partner. Giving your kid that exact name is a cruel thing to put a family member through.
@@OGimouse1no everything is the matter of not being an a**hole. If the baby was born would they have stolen the name then? Nope. Probably not. I lost a baby and that baby 100 percent had a name. I knew right away. Only told our close family. If anyone ever tried to take her/his name… I’d be livid. It’s like a big eff you.. Like their life didn’t matter. Although his/her life was short… my baby and I know that baby… mattered.
On a lighter note, I thought it was sad but interesting what Morgan was talking about how sex and healing is not really addressed in OT. I'm glad someone like Morgan brings it up but she said hardly anybody talks about it and I thought, Marvin Gaye did. I'll see myself out.
I just want to comment on story 3 as a professional pastry chef. Just like that 16 year old girl, this was my passion from a very young age. I remember all the ways my parents encouraged me and the opportunities they sought out for me. I was making decent and professional looking wedding and birthday cakes by the time I was her age. I applaud her mom for being so supportive and excited to show off her daughters skills 👏🏼
This is so lovely to hear! I’d love to have someone I love make something so precious😍 Also even if it’s not perfect, it’s beautiful because of the sentiment.
the first story- OP deleted her account but i found some comments from before that. one says "ty, no they didnt grow up with me, me and their father agreed they will live with him when they were born because i didnt have the money to take care of them. Me and their father broke up because he hit me and i had enough sense to leave. I was already pregnant too" and discusses how they've never liked her but only in the last few years became bullies. she thinks it's the dad saying something to them because he's mad she didn't stay with him. she also said she's taking their switches back to the store and treating herself to dinner the next day after the post (which was a few weeks ago). just some extra context that i think fills out the picture more.
What a sick person of a “father” you have to be to teach or mold ur kids to act like that towards your mom I’m glad she’s out of that situation and i hope sheaves on to better things in life
Yeah that tracks. Seeing how the father and aunt behaved towards her, the boys assimilated that way of thinking. Hopefully, this will be a wake up call for them and they can repair their relationship in the future. But right now it's best if she just stays away.
That last story got me all up in the feels. 😭😭I couldn’t imagine hearing my SO getting into an accident and then not knowing for 15 minutes if they are alive or not. I’m so glad the OP is doing well 🥹🥹
Story 1… as a kid with a narcissistic parent I get a different vibe. My parent would do and say horrible things, and then act like the victim, and spin a story to get validation from others that we the kids were always in the wrong, and the “bully”. Then if I was upset about it, again, they acted like I was doing something to them by not kissing their ass and begging for forgiveness or whatever. I get that vibe from the mom. Seems like there’s something deeper there and the way she explains it sounds like she views herself as the victim, and it’s possible these kids have some issues with the divorce and the mom and is some unresolved wounds. There’s always 2 sides to the story, and we definitely are getting her side that’s tinted with her viewing herself as the victim. Maybe the teenagers were assholes, but I was also an asshole to my parent when I had enough of feeling like I was always responsible for their feelings etc. Just a different take but I feel there’s way more to the story that might not paint her as the victim necessarily.
If it makes you feel better, you were spot on. It came out that the mom was a narcissist and did this exact thing as both the aunt and a daughter told the actual story.
The crush wedding story brings up a really important point. Your friend/family members wedding is not about you. It’s not about your relationship with them. It’s about the people getting married - about their relationship.
On the Name Story: my brother was named after my mom’s best friend sister who died in a car crash at 18. She always wanted to name her future son the name and my mom became pregnant with him a few month later. She asked the family and they approved, it’s that simple.
I believe there is a difference in doing it for honoring them, but it is weird they would do that especially knowing it would be so painful for her brother in law to talk to them or look at that child.
I was really into baking when I was a teenager. I baked and decorated the cake for my mom and step dad’s wedding, which was in our backyard. They were so supportive about it. It made me so happy to do something nice for them and to have my interests supported so wholeheartedly.
jfc the first story is just…wow. I honestly don’t think the mom was in the wrong. I don’t know how long they’ve been treating/trashing on her but even after a week of this abuse I would explode. That should be a wake up call to the sons and especially the family.
*Edit:* I've now listened to the update and don't really stand by this anymore. If the other side of the story is accurate (which I believe it likely is), the mom was WAY out of line. I don't think anything to this effect should have been said. It's more than "a little intense", as I previously put it. I think the word choice was a little intense, but they desperately needed to hear something like that if they're ever going snap out of it.
But also…nobody mentioned how the ex kept coming to apologize, but neither of the boys went with him to apologize…so do they really care? Or is he just saying that?
I was saying have two cakes. You can have the professional one and say hers can be the small one for bride and groom! Guy’s an idiot and yea, went straight to mommy when he couldn’t talk OP around to his side. 🤦🏼♀️ I would have a hard time getting passed his badmouthing my daughter.
I read story 7 before on Reddit but still teared up so I’m glad Morgan did too 😅 In addition to the points brought up, I also think it’s tough to shift out of that caretaker role. He’s been 100% focused on keeping her alive and getting her better
Story 1. The way she treated them before vs her saying that tells me this was an actual breaking point for her. Not a normal bratty kids situation. I remember the time I made my mom cry as a teen and it still haunts me to this day. And she didn't even say anything like that. I can only imagine how they could have treated her to bring her to this point.
That story broke my heart because I was such a difficult child and such an asshole as I got into my teens, but I eventually got therapy and meds to manage my emotions. I have such a great relationship with my mom now but the way I treated her still haunts me. I hope these kids can look back on this and see how shitty they were being and change their ways.
@@alleyj826 And per an update posted a day ago from the unmentioned daughter's pov; you have been had. The mother is full of it and has been abusive emotionally to her daughter (whom was born from a one night stand!)most of her life. And she played favorite with one of the twins while outright neglecting the other beyond bare necessity.
The story of the name of the unborn baby of the dead gf of the brother in law is heartbreaking 💔 Every time he'll hear the name or see his niece he'll remember about his painful loss of his partner and their unborn baby, very traumatising
Story 2: they couldn’t pick a different name from the same name of the brothers dead baby? Op is TA. And to answer her question…no one in that family can use it but strangers can. I’m petty AF and every time I saw them Id be like ‘wow you must be so happy my partner and baby died. And I’d say it in front of people.’
regarding re-using baby names - my husband has three great uncles named Anthony - two died in childhood and they just named the next kid born Anthony - twice. His great grandparents were Catholic and it was the 1910s-20s, so there were a lot of kids. The last Anthony died in WW2. I've seen a lot of this in this in the genealogy research I've done before the modern era. But this story is entirely different - it's one thing if the parents decided to name the next child the name or even if the OP's intention was to honor the loss somehow. It's just selfish and trashy.
@@dream6562 she may have. However, it is down right cruel. Everytime he would hear his niece's name he would think of his dead partner and baby girl. As someone who really loves names, there's plenty of others to pick from. First that came to my mind is Yvette. If the love the O - Ophelia or Ophelie
If she wanted to name the girl after swan lake why couldn't they go with Odile? I mean she is technically a villain but they don't seem to care about being villains irl so??
The one bringing up the guys crush on her at his wedding is giving the same energy as that one pick me friend who has to mention the person you like or are dating, liked them first but they weren’t their type or they weren’t good enough for them but has to emphasise how well they know them and that you guys are cute together any chance they get…
When Lauren was giving her take on the second story, I just kept thinking "I can't wait for Morgan to go off on these people" lmao. Hearing the last title made me think "Oh great, another reason to not believe in love or lasting relationships" and then doing a complete 180. I'm crying with y'all.
I love when Lauren is giving examples of more common baby names she says: "well, it's not like Rachel or Emma" because she had just previously talked about the Friends episode when Rachel names her baby Emma hahah
I’ve always been misty eyed during the heart wrenching ones, but the husband sobbing after the accident and her holding him literally had me sobbing while I did the dishes. I think this has been one of the best episodes. Thank you for sharing these stories, and I’m really happy for them beginning their journey to healing as a couple together
My sister had a very unique name. I’ve never met or even heard of anyone with the same name. She passed away a few years ago and prior to her death a one of my dads colleagues asked if he could use that name for his incoming baby daughter. My dad gave him the OK, of course. It played out that the colleagues baby was born not long after my sister died and even though my dad had no connection to this guy outside of work he still had a little meltdown in his office and had to go home for the day. My sisters best friend, who we still treat as family, also thought of using the same for her baby recently (3years after) and she came to each of us to ask and still decided it was too painful and instead used our last name as babies first name as a tribute to my sister. It’s not hard to respect peoples feelings.
Last story is simultaneously really sweet and new fear unlocked. I can completely understand why she would be hurt and see his worry as rejection. I know I would.
Story 5. So sad that your elderly parents won’t spend thousands of dollars for a motel???? If she wants alone time then don’t ask your parents to come up. Let them stay at your house.
The last story was really sad, but beautiful and sweet. I’ve heard so many Reddit stories where the husband stops thinking their wife is sexy or they cheat while they are in recovery or something. So it was very heartwarming and reassuring to hear that he was just so worried and protective of her after they’ve both gone through this trauma together. I burst into tears when you got to the part where they were holding each other in bed. I’m so glad they’re getting the help they need and that they were able to communicate bc a lot of the problems couples have is just not talking to each other. Loved this story and this episode ❤
I know I got a good one when he handles his own family and doesn't tell me about any ruffled feathers until we're back home so I'm not self conscious about whatever the problem was.
No literally, we would have fought on the dance floor. But I’ve also had bfs girl best friend tell me in all seriousness “no offense, but your boyfriend is actually MY soulmate” so I might be extra sensitive Edited to say we had been dating for over a year at that point, he worked w her brother so I was legit sitting in her bed in her house looking her dead in the eyes waiting for them to come home and him to take me back to our place after I had just told her I thought we had the potential to be together for a long time.
For story 2, as a former ballerina, I feel like the odds are at least 80% that the name is Odette. Which is a beautiful name, but not super common, and yet not super uncommon either. That being said, what a fucked up situation wow.... Edit: I typed this literally two minutes before they revealed the name I stand correct.
for the story with a future newborn. honey you are gonna WANT your parents staying in the house with you. i have 2 children. the second i went into labor with my second i called my mom so she could fly in and help me because you do NOT get any alone time with children. having helping hands around is SO helpful.
Being alone with a newborn was a new concept for me. In my culture (or maybe just my family) the women take turns getting off work and helping the new mom. Like mom and baby aren't alone for months, you got all the aunts and grandma coming over about a week per person. I moved to the US and was a little terrified of the thought of just being alone with a baby. I know dads will get some time but usually not enough and you will be alone for a stretch. I can't imagine how difficult it would be. I'm hoping my mom would be able to take off work and help if she hasn't retired yet at that point.
@@katrinascarlet5637 when i had my babies i did NOT want to be alone with them. it wasn’t about having help it was just about having someone i was able to talk to so i wasn’t alone. i had bad PPD and PPA so i was also afraid to be alone with my babes lol
Definitely crying with that last story , I couldn't imagine my husband hearing that, or vice versa . Really great episode I love Lauren she's such a great co host and always has such great takes
In Story 1, I feel like the kids have internalized the shit their dad and family talk about their mom. I have some friends who growing up were super harsh to one of their parents only because they had the other one in their ear talking crap. Hopefully their relationship can be repaired when they grow older … really sad
@@meepsmeep7457 Just to add that the Aunt also stepped up and said that it was all BS. So it's not just the kids saying that her behaviour was disgusting and abusive
The last story had me sobbing like a baby at work. So sweet, so glad they had a happy conclusion to that. I'm wishing them all the love and happiness in the world 😭💕
Holy smokes, this episode brought out strong feelings from me 😟 truly astonishing how there are people who can go from 0 to 100 that quick without thinking how it can effect on their loved ones’ lives. Also thank you for the shout-out! Everybody should definitely check out the Spotify Live show because we spiral into a literal rabbit hole, talk and have so much fun!!! I truly love this community, thank you Morgan, Justin, Lauren, Alejandra, Jerry, listeners and other guests for providing an escape from reality and making us reflect to be better persons ❤
Story 2 , I actually spent a whole semester learning about Odette. You know she isn’t sincere because its not like she’s being sentimental about the name. For example “oh BIL we are choosing the name because we want a piece remembrance of SIL”…. She is just weird asf for not choosing something else. Theres so many ballets out there.
It would have been an entirely different story if she had just asked permission to use the name in order to memorialize the baby. But the way she approached it, her attitude and entitlement was so trashy. Edit… I just got to The part of the video where Morgan says exactly what I just said LMAO.
Righttt Idk why but i didnt really like Lauren when i first starting watching (when 2ht was at around 10k subs) but now she is my absolute favourite co host
Story 7 - my husband was in a traumatic accident a few years ago and was in the hospital for 4 months (ICU, LTACH, REHAB). He now has tons and tons of deep scars and he felt so insecure for a while. I understand from the husband's perspective - Even right after his accident, I never looked at my husband any different and thought he was unattractive because of his scars - I did however, feel distant from him in a weird way. Like I got used to not sleeping in the same bed with him, was strange to be alone (I got used to doctors/nurses being in the room), and I was purely his caretaker for a while. It's just traumatic and everything feels scary, like you can break them…a lot of PTSD to work through.
Omg my heart at the last story I can't stop crying 😭😭😭😭😭😭 my heart broke for her on the original post but then the update I'm in bits.. its so incredibly beautiful and I'm so happy she had such support. And I just imagined being in that situation both as her and also as the one watching their partner in the hospital bed and waw it's crushed me 😭😭😭💜💜💜
When I had my son I named him Jacob after my older brother who died a little while after his birth, I never got to meet him, and I remember how my dad used to cry whenever his birthday came around. The difference is I chose to name him Jacob in honor of my brother. My dad had 6 children after that and was never blessed with another son, no longer plans to have any more children so when I gave birth to his first grandson, I immediately knew I wanted to name him Jacob. I met with him for dinner and told him about the idea and he cried and thanked me. My baby boy is so special to me and I'm so glad that my dad was happy about my choice. So OP 2, you are an AH and I'm not sorry. If I ever got the even smallest inkling that he wasn't ok with the name I would have given it up no doubt. But my father immediately made a heartwarming FB post about it cuz he knew why I chose it, not because it was my favorite name, not because it was pretty (even though it is) but to honor my older brother.
the last story is absolutely beautiful. Im so glad she has a partner who was so supportive and brave enough to express his fears too. It can be really hard for the partner of someone who goes through a traumatic event like that because they feel like their problems are so insignificant compared to their partner. It can make them feel really isolated and alone, so i am glad he reached out and was honest. He also experienced trauma having to hear what happened and be with her in the hospital for so long. While its different trauma, it is extremely difficult too. It makes me so happy that they were able to meet each other where they were and heal together. that is what a partnership is supposed to be.
Lol first story: Me: heard the title “omg what an awful mom” Me: listening after the first few sentences “omg what an awful family!! Throw them all away Mama.” Edit: NVM, throw the mom away. My heart goes to the family. 💕
Cept, the mother was awful. She is an abusive liar. The first story is full of lies, there is a post from OPs daughter... whom was never even mentioned in the post.
For story 5 I think she means alone time as a new family. Like it’s nice to have support and all but you also need to figure it out on your own at the same time. Definitely agree with the have your cake and eat it too mentality
This episode touched on two of my worst, worst fears : having a sibling pass away in a car accident with their child in the car, and chatting with my partner on the phone/DM and witnessing a car accident or having that message left unread because something happened… You manage to always handle very sensitive topics in a way that is not completely traumatising because of the way you pick the stories, because of your interactions with the hosts, because of your reactions, and I just wanted to say : good f*cking job, and thank you for giving us a place to hear different opinions and gaining new perspectives every week :) Also keep the costumes comin’
For story #1 further down in the comments she explained that they separated during her pregnancy because he was violent towards her. Somehow he convinced her to give him full custody because he had money and she was poor and with no family.
@@woman_of_mayhem don't be, she's a lying abuser. See Mark Narrations video on this story, it's on the thumbnail. There's an update from OP's daughter, which she never mentioned.
Except, he didn't... the father is man of the year... not only saved the boys, he also saved OPs daughter, whom she didn't even bother mentioning in the story (and he wasn't even her real father, she was born from a one night stand and he adopted her after the twins were born). There is an update on the vent sub from the daughter's pov titled: "I hate my mom and how she convinced thousands of people that she's the victim" And TLDR, the mother is a lying abuser who willingly let herself spiral from untreated unmedicated depression and ppd...
The story about the woman asking her parents to stay in town but not with her… girlie you’re not gonna want “alone time”….you’re gonna want 24/7 help with a newborn! She should be GRATEFUL to have her parents willing to be there to help. She’s romanticizing having a newborn. She’ll learn soon enough…
This!!! My parents left the day we came home from the hospital to give us time to bond and my husband and I wished they didn't. Babies are not easy and not getting regular sleep while you are still learning and recovering is so difficult.
Edit: I'm not gunna delete this comment, but OP is a massive AH. Check out the daughter's version of events. OMG, Story 1….. What she said is going to stick with her boys forever, that’s not really something you can walk back. But then again, I really hate the idea that the victim always has to be the bigger person in those situations. Do the boy’s know what she’s sacrificed? I can’t imagine how beat down you have to be to say that to your children. Maybe this can be their wake-up call. One day, those boys are going to wake up from all the sh*t their dad and his family pushed into their heads and its going to wreck them to see how much pain they caused someone who gave them literally everything she could until they broke her. And it might be too late to fix anything, if OP ever finds herself in a place to accept their groveling for forgiveness. Not to sound like a broken record, but THERAPY… STAT! I think she needs an unbiased third party to remind her that the views her boys hold of her were learned behaviors, and I wish that someday they can meet and come to a place of peace and happiness with each other, but right now it sounds like they’re better off separated.
YEP. 100% agreed. and i hope it IS their wake up call and can learn from this. you can be an abuser/perpetuating abuse at any age, and you need to learn to take responsibility/accountability for how you are treating someone. all of them need therapy asap and she definitely needs to feel validated at this time because it is not okay. i hope she can heal from this and she gets the best outcome of this situation that she deems appropriate.
Also even if it is a wake up call for the boys….do you know any teenagers who would be willing to reach out to their parent after being told something like that? If I were 16 and my mom told me she hated me and wished she never had me and never wanted to see me again???? I would most definitely take that to heart. No matter how sorry the boys may be for their actions, she said she never wanted to see them again so why would they try to see her?
@@thereallunarose some kids are more self aware than you think. saying something like that would definitely make me reflect. they might not realize it and apologize as a teen, but they will as an adult. at the end of the day its the mom who has to decide to forgive all of that mistreatment and they're in the wrong, as well as the dad.
But shouldn't it be something that sticks with them forever? The fact that if you're such a garbage person then not even your own mother will love you? That you can't get away with treating people like crap and expect unconditional love? Honestly, everyone needs therapy. But if it costs more than two Nintendo Switches, then who's gonna have to starve to pay for that? Society's screwed.
I’ve been in a few car accidents as well. And I always say the same thing, the sound of the crash will never leave me. It’s a horrific memory that I just can’t get out of my head. When you guys talked about it I totally understood what you were saying.
Story 1: When Morgan read the title, my eyebrows automatically raised. But after hearing the whole story, damn, my heart hurts for the mom. :( Her words will definitely stick with the boys because the words were harsh, but then again if you were bullied to the point of exploding in anger, words will be said. I'm pretty sure that the boys learned it from the father or the father's family that "it's okay" to talk to their mom like that. Sending love to the mother. She deserves to receive the love she gives to others. 💖
The last story I was listening to on my drive home this morning and literally sobbing with you guys as I was listening to it I had to park and take a minute to myself because omg that was the sweetest yet saddest story ever
YALL STORY ONE HAS AN UPDATE AND BACKSTORY: I hope they do an update because the DAUGHTER found out this was posted because of this podcast. She explains what actually happened along with OP’s history of ch!ld @buse and mental illness. Basically she lost custody of the twins because she said she only wanted one more child and will one love the first one born. She neglected the other one. She takes every opportunity to be the victim. She said the kids weren’t grateful enough because they just said “Thank you.” Tried to get violent, and called them ingredients little See You N Teas. I really hope y’all go read the background because these kids are so torn up about this.
Yeah, I hope the kids will heal, I send them tons a love And props to the dad for being a saint and taking in the daughter when they’re not biologically related
I’ve been in a physical rehab facility twice, about a decade apart. When I was 42, I had a stroke.(Tl/dr there was an unexpected hole in my heart that took a week to diagnose). After a week in hospital for testing while they were trying to come up with a reason for the stroke, and they were clueless until my last day when they did a test that revealed a small hole in my heart that should’ve closed when I was young, that didn’t. After my week in ICU and I think a week on Med/Surge, I was sent to a rehab hospital because while I was diagnosed almost immediately upon showing symptoms, there was some weakness in my left side. All this to say thank you to Morgan and her colleagues in the OT profession, as they were a saving grace during a trying time. Last year I had a bout of a UTI and had major water retention and fibromyalgia and arthritis pain in my knees that was so bad I needed intensive pain management, so I was admitted to our local hospital for treatment. After about a week there I was transferred back to the very same rehab hospital. While it’s name and staff had changed(thank goodness one of the nurses from my first visit had moved on, as she was worse than toxic), and again had a week and a half of intensive OT and PT, and again, the team was fantastic, and I know I can credit a great deal of my recuperation to them. Post hospital I had some in-home OT and PT(so Morgan if you ever want to get back in that game, I know it needs people just like you.) My OT and PT were so helpful and wonderful getting me back to status quo. So I have great sympathy and gratitude to those in those professions. So, in summation, thank you Morgan for your amazing podcast but I’m sure you’ll be missed in your previous profession. Love all your shows, love you and all your guest hosts(shoutout and snoot boops for Holly). Thanks again for all you do, I would not be here without your colleagues. And I’m binge listening to every episode, ever.
As someone who plans on naming their daughter something very specific as well, it would be a very very ice cold day in hell before I could be around someone who purposely stole that name without snapping their neck. Names can be sacred, especially when it’s in remembrance of someone who passed. If you’re willing to overstep that boundary you’ll never be anything but dead to me. It’s not just a word or a collection of letters, there’s an entire history behind it, symbolism, and sometimes even trauma. To have no attachment to the name other than hearing someone else close to you talk about it and the reason why it’s special to them, and to carelessly claim it as your own is the most despicable, disgusting, and reprehensible actions you could ever take. You deserve all the fallout from your pathetic decisions.
@@yazmintorres9084 It seems to be removed because sis shared too much personal info but I found someone who did a recap. Basically she complained that her brother became "cheap" since he got married and got a child and that he stopped helping her and their mother. That OP pays for her (OPs) sisters an thus she is intended to pay because OP has more money than she does. And much more that could be resumed by saying "I don't care about you guys or your need. Your are to pay for me, I deserve it." ETA. she obviously got called on that.
Morgan has invented a new vibe: lovably dis-gust-ing lol. If anyone else came up with these scenarios (i.e. would you drink diarrhea to cure ibs) it wouldn't be adorable lol
Morgan can sometimes read out or say the grossest things I have ever heard in my life and then she laughs her adorable “hehe” laugh and I’m like yeah. You go girl. Tell me more
Another point to the name story is what if the BIL had a hard time just dealing with hearing the name? With such an unused name they could go a very long time without hearing it. Even hearing it in public they can just leave the situation if it upsets them so much, but if the OP did name the kid that then I would assume the brother-in-law and girlfriend would either go no contact with the family. Or if the family is on the BIL’s side then they would also go low to no contact with OP’s family. Maybe they would stay in contact but it would be very strained either way.
The name story and the ballet, I was sitting here for most of the story thinking it was something like Clara from “the Nutcracker”, or even Giselle from the ballet “Giselle, ou les Wilis” something that doesn’t immediately make you think of the ballet, and can have some variations that aren’t immediately associated with the ballet. But Odette has instant connotations to “Swan Lake”, so if it was the deceased girlfriends favorite ballet, and was a name picked out by her for her future daughter, that poor brother in law is probably doubly reminded of tragedy by that name. Oh my god the OP in that story is just heartless.
i never am here early so i just want to say i love your channel and the growth it has been going through. KEEP IT UP! thank you for being a figure i really look up too.
Story 1: there was another post that was a response to this story and it revealed that OP is a neglectful mom, hence why she lost custody of the kids, who always throws a fit and makes everything about herself. This outburst is just one of many from her and the kids did apparently thank her for the Switches.
The first story is probably one of the worst stories I’ve ever heard it broke my heart … I am getting vibes that maybe the mom was absent at a point in time or the father had more custody, but even if that is the case that does not warrant their behavior
It doesn’t sound like she was absent for a time, especially when she said she did so much for them and their father and they walked all over her, it seems like they chose to live with their dad when they divorced and she agreed (hence the walking over her) and wanted them to be happy although they don’t care about her feelings. It is truly heart breaking! As a mother I can sympathize with her, as a child I know I would be hurt if my mom said that to me. But the difference with that is I actually had a relationship with my mom, I didn’t walk over her and treat her like crap if she didn’t get me the things I wanted. It’s such a tough thing to go through on both sides. And as a mother it has to hurt worse that her kids aren’t coming to her directly to repair their relationship with her. 😢
@@Stephfleshman17 op said that she left her ex when he started hitting her (she was pregnant at the time) but when they were born they agreed that they should live with him because he was more financially secure.
First story was fake. THe mother is a lying narcissist, and the daughter made a post with the real explanation why they cut her out. Surprise, its the mom that's abusive...
Dont feel bad for her.. shes a fucking liar painting herself as a victim while she in reality was jsut a shitty mother. The otherside of this story is on reddit
As a newer mom, the staying at the home story got to me. It's such an exhausting and almost dehumanizing time after having a newborn. I was in a small 2 bed apartment and my mom stayed with me for only a week and was there for the birth. I wish she could have stayed longer. Being able to pass on the baby to get a shower or just stare at my phone for an hour by myself was a godsend. There is no alone time with a newborn. My mother was a little toxic as usual but the benefits way outweighed the cons. She is TA huge
"Am i the asshole for bragging that the groom used to like me first right in front of the bride and everyone else at the wedding? Im just the girl best friend teehee" if i was that bride, that girl best friend would be walking out of the wedding without a scalp.
I recently started watching your Two Hot Takes podcast. I’ve probably listened to around 12 or so of the full episodes. I just wanted to say how much your podcast has helped me. Seems silly… but I’m a stay at home mom and don’t have anyone to talk to all day. My toddlers talk to each other and me a lot but adult conversation is left at less than 2 hours a day and even that is late at night with my fiancé. I feel like I’m having a conversation with friends when I listen to your podcast. ESPECIALLY when it’s with Morgan & Lauren. I listen to you guys while I clean the house for hours a day. It helps me motivate and stay interested in cleaning more. I have ADHD and focusing and finishing a project is HARD. It’s even helped me outside of my lonely days though. I have had more things to contribute to conversation with my fiancé, or even family when I see them. I’m like “omg this crazy story was on my podcast” and have something to add to our discussions. I just wanted to express how grateful I am that I found your podcast. It’s the first podcast I’ve ever listened to. Well more than a few minutes. I usually lose interest very fast. Thank you guys for doing what you do. And I’m so happy for your success. I hope that someday I can sit back with friends and do something similar. ❤️
I usually only listen on Spotify but had to pop on here to say the last story also had me sobbing. My fiancé and I are both motorbikes and the possibility of us getting into a serious accident at anytime (all weather riders) is high. Days his phone dies when he’s driving home or traffic is backed up I think the worst case. Yay for therapy and positive men’s mental health
the last story was such a breath of fresh air. Finally just a husband who cares and the relationship is healthy they both want to go to counseling and care for each other. ❤
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My hero!!! I’m traveling and was barely able to get the ep up so I appreciate this immensely.
@@TwoHotTakes no problem, always watching when someone alredy commented, or you have in description, but i was super early and was like i can do at this time
I stumbled across as tik tok of Meghan trainor and I thought it was Morgan, never realized how much you guys look alike! Haven’t seen Meghan trainor in years but her 2022 era is so similar to Morgan’s vibe.
For story number one with the twin boys, I KNEW something was off about it. I finally did a little digging and the mother of that story is 1000% not the victim. I hope you guys get to read that post in an update or something.
It’s now on their newest video ^^
@@danganryanne9499which video????
@@BellaDonnuh It’s the ‘There is Two Sides to every Story’
I watched the update episode of this story before this one lol. I'm a new fan and not watching in order
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Morgan calling Animal Crossing “animal farm” 😂😂😂 I love it
I yelled at the computer "It's Animal Crossing Morgan! and its still a thing!" 😂
I'm playing animal crossing while listening to the episode 🤣
Lol I hate ! I had to yell at the screen
@@meghanpowers359 maybe she didn't want to give them free promo 😂
I love reading communist novels on my switch 😂
My parents almost named a cat after the name I had picked out for my baby and I had a meltdown I can’t imagine being the brother in law in that story
Hahahaha so I didn’t mention this on the video but my roommate started nicknaming her dog my nickname and I was having such a hard time with it 😂 I tried to get over it but I finally confused to her how I felt about it
@@Lauren-ib3ok ahaha my grandma has a dog with the same nickname as my ex and it makes me laugh everytime I have to say it now!
@@ursineternii1844 hahahahaha that’s amaZing
My mother in law has a dog with my name..she thinks its funny bc it came a few months before me. Its weird when she calls her out😑
When I was a teen, my neighbor boys named their dog my name and “Christy” isn’t a common name for a dog.
I didn’t have a bad relationship with the family or the boys themselves. I don’t think I was a bitch to have a bitch named after me; I was a shy, quiet girl who didn’t really socialize due to extracurriculars that were exhausting. It was so bizarre to me.
How ironic that Morgan said “Abusers often play the victim” on the first story lmao
Is Morgan an abuser ? or wdym
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Yea wdym
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@@Rosa-gu5sw No, they said that because there is a different post where it shows that the mom of that story is DEFINITELY not the victim.
@@vanessam7769whereeeeee
Odette is about as unique as Hermione. It's a well known name (because of the materiel the name is associated with) but not many people actually HAVE that name.
i was just about to post a comment saying it was most likely odette
Litterally when they said ”favorite balette” i was like oh okay so its swan lake.
@@casrrole my mind went straight to esmeralda lol
@@gracierainwater1031 tbh, my mind went to Aurora o:
i was honestly thinking giselle lmaooo. i guess it came to minds because it’s my sisters name and consequently it’s OUR favourite ballet lol
To anyone interested: After going to the first story on Reddit, I think OP is a narcissist if what I read was true. Allegedly she has a daughter who is older (she claimed they were her only kids..interesting) and the daughter had a completely different story. She claimed OP was an abuser to all of them, dad got custody, and the boys didn’t actually react that way. She claimed (made a post about this that might be deleted now idk) that they politely thanked her but weren’t thrilled because they don’t know her very well and dislike her bc of their history. We never truly know the real version of these stories, as people can paint a prettier picture. And who knows, maybe the daughters post wasn’t real? Someone also commented that OP’s comment history is 🚩🚩I definitely felt like some details were left out, and I really just can’t imagine that happening the way she said it did.
There was a comment on the OOP of story 1 from the aunt that also said that the mother was lying.. so I consider that corroboration
That’s crazy! 😮
Literally just commented something similar. I have ppl in my family that are very narcissistic and will make it about themselves when it’s not/take things personal when it’s not & that’s the vibe I was getting from mom!
yeah, how she talked reminded me EXACTLY of how my abusive mother talked.
So glad I found this comment! I was thinking the SAME thing the entire story. I always side with women and abuse victims but I just had this gut feeling that the mom was a total narcissist. It doesn't make any sense that the entire family is against her for no reason, extended family included. And it seems like dad probably has custody of the kids. Its also a total narc move to say such a bold and intense insult in hopes that they will come crawling back begging for forgiveness. Definitely gave me red flags for sure.
Story 2: OP and her husband are completely abhorrent for this. They knew this was the name their sibling & his partner had chosen to give to a very much wanted and loved child. Added to that he lost their the unborn baby, and his partner. Giving your kid that exact name is a cruel thing to put a family member through.
So, everything is a matter of dibs?
@@OGimouse1no everything is the matter of not being an a**hole. If the baby was born would they have stolen the name then? Nope. Probably not. I lost a baby and that baby 100 percent had a name. I knew right away. Only told our close family. If anyone ever tried to take her/his name… I’d be livid. It’s like a big eff you.. Like their life didn’t matter. Although his/her life was short… my baby and I know that baby… mattered.
The last story is the type of stuff they write about in romantic novels. honestly such a beautiful couple & so glad she’s okay.
I KNOW 🥹😭 I was not okay. I started bawling again while editing 💓
On a lighter note, I thought it was sad but interesting what Morgan was talking about how sex and healing is not really addressed in OT. I'm glad someone like Morgan brings it up but she said hardly anybody talks about it and I thought, Marvin Gaye did.
I'll see myself out.
I just want to comment on story 3 as a professional pastry chef. Just like that 16 year old girl, this was my passion from a very young age. I remember all the ways my parents encouraged me and the opportunities they sought out for me. I was making decent and professional looking wedding and birthday cakes by the time I was her age. I applaud her mom for being so supportive and excited to show off her daughters skills 👏🏼
That’s so cool! Good for you
This is so lovely to hear! I’d love to have someone I love make something so precious😍 Also even if it’s not perfect, it’s beautiful because of the sentiment.
There’s something so beautiful about two friends happy cry together over someone else’s life story. Humans are adorable.
Are you not human?
the first story- OP deleted her account but i found some comments from before that. one says "ty, no they didnt grow up with me, me and their father agreed they will live with him when they were born because i didnt have the money to take care of them. Me and their father broke up because he hit me and i had enough sense to leave. I was already pregnant too" and discusses how they've never liked her but only in the last few years became bullies. she thinks it's the dad saying something to them because he's mad she didn't stay with him. she also said she's taking their switches back to the store and treating herself to dinner the next day after the post (which was a few weeks ago). just some extra context that i think fills out the picture more.
I had a feeling it was something like that. Like that's a learned behavior for sure.
What a sick person of a “father” you have to be to teach or mold ur kids to act like that towards your mom I’m glad she’s out of that situation and i hope sheaves on to better things in life
That’s what I was thinking sadly these boys are going to be a lot like their father in the dating pool it seems!!!!!
Yeah that tracks. Seeing how the father and aunt behaved towards her, the boys assimilated that way of thinking. Hopefully, this will be a wake up call for them and they can repair their relationship in the future. But right now it's best if she just stays away.
With that being the case I wonder if he hits the kids too. Maybe they resent her for leaving them with an abuser.
That last story got me all up in the feels. 😭😭I couldn’t imagine hearing my SO getting into an accident and then not knowing for 15 minutes if they are alive or not. I’m so glad the OP is doing well 🥹🥹
Story 1… as a kid with a narcissistic parent I get a different vibe. My parent would do and say horrible things, and then act like the victim, and spin a story to get validation from others that we the kids were always in the wrong, and the “bully”. Then if I was upset about it, again, they acted like I was doing something to them by not kissing their ass and begging for forgiveness or whatever. I get that vibe from the mom. Seems like there’s something deeper there and the way she explains it sounds like she views herself as the victim, and it’s possible these kids have some issues with the divorce and the mom and is some unresolved wounds.
There’s always 2 sides to the story, and we definitely are getting her side that’s tinted with her viewing herself as the victim. Maybe the teenagers were assholes, but I was also an asshole to my parent when I had enough of feeling like I was always responsible for their feelings etc.
Just a different take but I feel there’s way more to the story that might not paint her as the victim necessarily.
You were right :) we got the other side and it proved that OP was lying, it's on Mark Narrations
Your narcissist radar is ON POINT
If it makes you feel better, you were spot on. It came out that the mom was a narcissist and did this exact thing as both the aunt and a daughter told the actual story.
@@danganryanne9499 hi! do you happen to have the link to where to see the other side of the story?
@@rosariogallardo229 The post has been deleted I think but THT covered it in this video
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The crush wedding story brings up a really important point. Your friend/family members wedding is not about you. It’s not about your relationship with them. It’s about the people getting married - about their relationship.
THIS! If people could understand this concept, it would solve so many of these stories/scenarios 🤦🏽♀️
On the Name Story: my brother was named after my mom’s best friend sister who died in a car crash at 18. She always wanted to name her future son the name and my mom became pregnant with him a few month later. She asked the family and they approved, it’s that simple.
The reason she didn't ask was because she knew the answer would be no.
I believe there is a difference in doing it for honoring them, but it is weird they would do that especially knowing it would be so painful for her brother in law to talk to them or look at that child.
I was really into baking when I was a teenager. I baked and decorated the cake for my mom and step dad’s wedding, which was in our backyard. They were so supportive about it. It made me so happy to do something nice for them and to have my interests supported so wholeheartedly.
jfc the first story is just…wow. I honestly don’t think the mom was in the wrong. I don’t know how long they’ve been treating/trashing on her but even after a week of this abuse I would explode. That should be a wake up call to the sons and especially the family.
yeah i dont understand why lauren was saying what the mom did was too much. The brats deserved to hear that.
@@izlans they both said it. She's just trying to put herself in both positions
@@krisl6537 she works in therapy, so she's gonna give the therapy type answer
*Edit:* I've now listened to the update and don't really stand by this anymore. If the other side of the story is accurate (which I believe it likely is), the mom was WAY out of line. I don't think anything to this effect should have been said. It's more than "a little intense", as I previously put it.
I think the word choice was a little intense, but they desperately needed to hear something like that if they're ever going snap out of it.
But also…nobody mentioned how the ex kept coming to apologize, but neither of the boys went with him to apologize…so do they really care? Or is he just saying that?
For the cake: have both. There are often bride and groom cakes at the wedding, so it’s totally possible to meet in the middle.
I didnt know this was a thing
I was saying have two cakes. You can have the professional one and say hers can be the small one for bride and groom! Guy’s an idiot and yea, went straight to mommy when he couldn’t talk OP around to his side. 🤦🏼♀️ I would have a hard time getting passed his badmouthing my daughter.
Morgan doing the intro with her hands in the mittens the whole time is absolutely SENDING me. I LOVE IT!!! ❤
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I read story 7 before on Reddit but still teared up so I’m glad Morgan did too 😅
In addition to the points brought up, I also think it’s tough to shift out of that caretaker role. He’s been 100% focused on keeping her alive and getting her better
Story 1. The way she treated them before vs her saying that tells me this was an actual breaking point for her. Not a normal bratty kids situation. I remember the time I made my mom cry as a teen and it still haunts me to this day. And she didn't even say anything like that. I can only imagine how they could have treated her to bring her to this point.
That story broke my heart because I was such a difficult child and such an asshole as I got into my teens, but I eventually got therapy and meds to manage my emotions. I have such a great relationship with my mom now but the way I treated her still haunts me. I hope these kids can look back on this and see how shitty they were being and change their ways.
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And per an update posted a day ago from the unmentioned daughter's pov; you have been had.
The mother is full of it and has been abusive emotionally to her daughter (whom was born from a one night stand!)most of her life. And she played favorite with one of the twins while outright neglecting the other beyond bare necessity.
The story of the name of the unborn baby of the dead gf of the brother in law is heartbreaking 💔 Every time he'll hear the name or see his niece he'll remember about his painful loss of his partner and their unborn baby, very traumatising
Story 2: they couldn’t pick a different name from the same name of the brothers dead baby? Op is TA. And to answer her question…no one in that family can use it but strangers can. I’m petty AF and every time I saw them
Id be like ‘wow you must be so happy my partner and baby died. And I’d say it in front of people.’
regarding re-using baby names - my husband has three great uncles named Anthony - two died in childhood and they just named the next kid born Anthony - twice. His great grandparents were Catholic and it was the 1910s-20s, so there were a lot of kids. The last Anthony died in WW2. I've seen a lot of this in this in the genealogy research I've done before the modern era. But this story is entirely different - it's one thing if the parents decided to name the next child the name or even if the OP's intention was to honor the loss somehow. It's just selfish and trashy.
@@Hawther agreed. It’s different if the parents themselves decide to reuse the name
Like I get if this was a common name:
Like Jenifer- but it’s supposed to be special and they KNOW it’s their dead baby’s name so like WHAT???
@@NameName-yj7lp but the sister also has a connection to the name
@@dream6562 she may have. However, it is down right cruel. Everytime he would hear his niece's name he would think of his dead partner and baby girl. As someone who really loves names, there's plenty of others to pick from. First that came to my mind is Yvette. If the love the O - Ophelia or Ophelie
The way I was screaming “THE NAME IS ODETTE FFS” 😭
I was thinking the same thing
I was thinking Giselle 🤔
[edit bc just finished the story]: I was wrong lmao
I was thinking Aurora 😳😭
I was absolutely on the same exact wavelength 😂
I was thinking Clara from the nutcracker based on what they said (a nice name but not too out there).
If she wanted to name the girl after swan lake why couldn't they go with Odile? I mean she is technically a villain but they don't seem to care about being villains irl so??
X'D
I thought they meant the name Giselle.
The one bringing up the guys crush on her at his wedding is giving the same energy as that one pick me friend who has to mention the person you like or are dating, liked them first but they weren’t their type or they weren’t good enough for them but has to emphasise how well they know them and that you guys are cute together any chance they get…
When Lauren was giving her take on the second story, I just kept thinking "I can't wait for Morgan to go off on these people" lmao.
Hearing the last title made me think "Oh great, another reason to not believe in love or lasting relationships" and then doing a complete 180. I'm crying with y'all.
I love when Lauren is giving examples of more common baby names she says: "well, it's not like Rachel or Emma" because she had just previously talked about the Friends episode when Rachel names her baby Emma hahah
Story 7: Literally in tears, but can't wipe them away cause I'm doing my nails
Me too!! Lol
Me too!!!!
I was bawling! oh my gosh
Same 😫 I was trying hard not to ugly cry
BASED BASEWD BASED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I’ve always been misty eyed during the heart wrenching ones, but the husband sobbing after the accident and her holding him literally had me sobbing while I did the dishes. I think this has been one of the best episodes. Thank you for sharing these stories, and I’m really happy for them beginning their journey to healing as a couple together
My sister had a very unique name. I’ve never met or even heard of anyone with the same name. She passed away a few years ago and prior to her death a one of my dads colleagues asked if he could use that name for his incoming baby daughter. My dad gave him the OK, of course. It played out that the colleagues baby was born not long after my sister died and even though my dad had no connection to this guy outside of work he still had a little meltdown in his office and had to go home for the day.
My sisters best friend, who we still treat as family, also thought of using the same for her baby recently (3years after) and she came to each of us to ask and still decided it was too painful and instead used our last name as babies first name as a tribute to my sister. It’s not hard to respect peoples feelings.
Last story is simultaneously really sweet and new fear unlocked. I can completely understand why she would be hurt and see his worry as rejection. I know I would.
Story 5. So sad that your elderly parents won’t spend thousands of dollars for a motel???? If she wants alone time then don’t ask your parents to come up. Let them stay at your house.
The last story was really sad, but beautiful and sweet. I’ve heard so many Reddit stories where the husband stops thinking their wife is sexy or they cheat while they are in recovery or something. So it was very heartwarming and reassuring to hear that he was just so worried and protective of her after they’ve both gone through this trauma together. I burst into tears when you got to the part where they were holding each other in bed. I’m so glad they’re getting the help they need and that they were able to communicate bc a lot of the problems couples have is just not talking to each other. Loved this story and this episode ❤
story 3: so he had his mommy talk to his fiance cause he doesn’t know how to communicate, yeah run.
I know I got a good one when he handles his own family and doesn't tell me about any ruffled feathers until we're back home so I'm not self conscious about whatever the problem was.
Story 6: YTA, it just seems like basic common sense not to include his crush on her in her WEDDING speech 😂
No literally, we would have fought on the dance floor. But I’ve also had bfs girl best friend tell me in all seriousness “no offense, but your boyfriend is actually MY soulmate” so I might be extra sensitive
Edited to say we had been dating for over a year at that point, he worked w her brother so I was legit sitting in her bed in her house looking her dead in the eyes waiting for them to come home and him to take me back to our place after I had just told her I thought we had the potential to be together for a long time.
This is so silly lmao, why are people so insecure
I literally look forward to Thursdays every week because of this show I love this podcast so much
same!!!
For story 2, as a former ballerina, I feel like the odds are at least 80% that the name is Odette. Which is a beautiful name, but not super common, and yet not super uncommon either. That being said, what a fucked up situation wow....
Edit: I typed this literally two minutes before they revealed the name I stand correct.
Lmao, you edited the comment to change the name into the right one 😉😂
@@wioi No???? It's just one of the most famous ballets of all time and deduction is easy when you use your brain
@Sarah Bradford tbh I thought it might've been Giselle bc that's another ballet
I googled ballerina female names and saw Odette and knew that was it with zero ballet knowledge. Leave Sarah alone she tried doing us all a favour.
I think it’s Clara personally
for the story with a future newborn. honey you are gonna WANT your parents staying in the house with you. i have 2 children. the second i went into labor with my second i called my mom so she could fly in and help me because you do NOT get any alone time with children. having helping hands around is SO helpful.
Being alone with a newborn was a new concept for me. In my culture (or maybe just my family) the women take turns getting off work and helping the new mom. Like mom and baby aren't alone for months, you got all the aunts and grandma coming over about a week per person. I moved to the US and was a little terrified of the thought of just being alone with a baby. I know dads will get some time but usually not enough and you will be alone for a stretch. I can't imagine how difficult it would be. I'm hoping my mom would be able to take off work and help if she hasn't retired yet at that point.
@@katrinascarlet5637 when i had my babies i did NOT want to be alone with them. it wasn’t about having help it was just about having someone i was able to talk to so i wasn’t alone. i had bad PPD and PPA so i was also afraid to be alone with my babes lol
For real!!! She’s in for a wake up call. She’s gonna want her mom in the next room not the nearby hotel. Alone time? Oh honey. No.
My thoughts exactly! The biggest reason to have help come is to get through the nights
Definitely crying with that last story , I couldn't imagine my husband hearing that, or vice versa . Really great episode I love Lauren she's such a great co host and always has such great takes
I love YOU
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In Story 1, I feel like the kids have internalized the shit their dad and family talk about their mom. I have some friends who growing up were super harsh to one of their parents only because they had the other one in their ear talking crap. Hopefully their relationship can be repaired when they grow older … really sad
Exactly. This is the type.of.stuff that happens. Sadly.
First story was fake, mother is a lying narcissist. Daughter made a post explaining her POV which is extremely telling.
@@meepsmeep7457 Just to add that the Aunt also stepped up and said that it was all BS. So it's not just the kids saying that her behaviour was disgusting and abusive
The last story had me sobbing like a baby at work. So sweet, so glad they had a happy conclusion to that. I'm wishing them all the love and happiness in the world 😭💕
Holy smokes, this episode brought out strong feelings from me 😟 truly astonishing how there are people who can go from 0 to 100 that quick without thinking how it can effect on their loved ones’ lives.
Also thank you for the shout-out! Everybody should definitely check out the Spotify Live show because we spiral into a literal rabbit hole, talk and have so much fun!!! I truly love this community, thank you Morgan, Justin, Lauren, Alejandra, Jerry, listeners and other guests for providing an escape from reality and making us reflect to be better persons ❤
Story 2 , I actually spent a whole semester learning about Odette. You know she isn’t sincere because its not like she’s being sentimental about the name. For example “oh BIL we are choosing the name because we want a piece remembrance of SIL”…. She is just weird asf for not choosing something else. Theres so many ballets out there.
It would have been an entirely different story if she had just asked permission to use the name in order to memorialize the baby. But the way she approached it, her attitude and entitlement was so trashy.
Edit… I just got to The part of the video where Morgan says exactly what I just said LMAO.
@@Koleys LMFAO because it’s true and she still wanna act like BIL crazy
These two are so funny together not even 5 minutes in and I’m crying
Righttt
Idk why but i didnt really like Lauren when i first starting watching (when 2ht was at around 10k subs) but now she is my absolute favourite co host
Story 7 - my husband was in a traumatic accident a few years ago and was in the hospital for 4 months (ICU, LTACH, REHAB). He now has tons and tons of deep scars and he felt so insecure for a while. I understand from the husband's perspective - Even right after his accident, I never looked at my husband any different and thought he was unattractive because of his scars - I did however, feel distant from him in a weird way. Like I got used to not sleeping in the same bed with him, was strange to be alone (I got used to doctors/nurses being in the room), and I was purely his caretaker for a while. It's just traumatic and everything feels scary, like you can break them…a lot of PTSD to work through.
Omg my heart at the last story I can't stop crying 😭😭😭😭😭😭 my heart broke for her on the original post but then the update I'm in bits.. its so incredibly beautiful and I'm so happy she had such support. And I just imagined being in that situation both as her and also as the one watching their partner in the hospital bed and waw it's crushed me 😭😭😭💜💜💜
When I had my son I named him Jacob after my older brother who died a little while after his birth, I never got to meet him, and I remember how my dad used to cry whenever his birthday came around. The difference is I chose to name him Jacob in honor of my brother. My dad had 6 children after that and was never blessed with another son, no longer plans to have any more children so when I gave birth to his first grandson, I immediately knew I wanted to name him Jacob. I met with him for dinner and told him about the idea and he cried and thanked me. My baby boy is so special to me and I'm so glad that my dad was happy about my choice. So OP 2, you are an AH and I'm not sorry. If I ever got the even smallest inkling that he wasn't ok with the name I would have given it up no doubt. But my father immediately made a heartwarming FB post about it cuz he knew why I chose it, not because it was my favorite name, not because it was pretty (even though it is) but to honor my older brother.
the last story is absolutely beautiful. Im so glad she has a partner who was so supportive and brave enough to express his fears too. It can be really hard for the partner of someone who goes through a traumatic event like that because they feel like their problems are so insignificant compared to their partner. It can make them feel really isolated and alone, so i am glad he reached out and was honest. He also experienced trauma having to hear what happened and be with her in the hospital for so long. While its different trauma, it is extremely difficult too. It makes me so happy that they were able to meet each other where they were and heal together. that is what a partnership is supposed to be.
Hi Morgan, I just want to let you know that you help me with my anxiety. I always listen to your podcast at work. 💗
Story 7 has me in tears, I can’t handle how loving this relationship is🥹
Lol first story:
Me: heard the title “omg what an awful mom”
Me: listening after the first few sentences “omg what an awful family!! Throw them all away Mama.”
Edit: NVM, throw the mom away. My heart goes to the family. 💕
Just like me fr 😂
Cept, the mother was awful. She is an abusive liar. The first story is full of lies, there is a post from OPs daughter... whom was never even mentioned in the post.
@@Sonicanimefan1 what's the user?
@@loan666
She posted in the vent sub.
throwRAdontbealarmed is the user
It's also in best of redditor update
@@Sonicanimefan1 I mean we’re just going off of her perspective… do you have a link for that second post??
omg the last story. I legitimately am in tears commenting this. What a good man. I wish nothing but thr best for that couple.
The last story... man i was at work and i had to stop and go to the bathroom to wash my face because I was crying so fucking bad. What a lovely couple
For story 5 I think she means alone time as a new family. Like it’s nice to have support and all but you also need to figure it out on your own at the same time.
Definitely agree with the have your cake and eat it too mentality
This episode touched on two of my worst, worst fears : having a sibling pass away in a car accident with their child in the car, and chatting with my partner on the phone/DM and witnessing a car accident or having that message left unread because something happened… You manage to always handle very sensitive topics in a way that is not completely traumatising because of the way you pick the stories, because of your interactions with the hosts, because of your reactions, and I just wanted to say : good f*cking job, and thank you for giving us a place to hear different opinions and gaining new perspectives every week :)
Also keep the costumes comin’
For story #1 further down in the comments she explained that they separated during her pregnancy because he was violent towards her. Somehow he convinced her to give him full custody because he had money and she was poor and with no family.
Holy shit 🤯😫
That’s so sad. I’m so sad for her.
And as it turns out, she was the one who was abusive, there's a post from the OP's unmentioned daughter venting about it.
@@TheStevenBateson
Yeah, the aunt was the first to refute it, and then the daughter came forward on another sub. So we have 2 witnesses against her
@@woman_of_mayhem don't be, she's a lying abuser. See Mark Narrations video on this story, it's on the thumbnail. There's an update from OP's daughter, which she never mentioned.
The dad did not just ignore the twins’ behavior, he encouraged it. I 100% believe he makes them act the way they do.
Monkey see. Money do.
Except, he didn't... the father is man of the year... not only saved the boys, he also saved OPs daughter, whom she didn't even bother mentioning in the story (and he wasn't even her real father, she was born from a one night stand and he adopted her after the twins were born).
There is an update on the vent sub from the daughter's pov titled: "I hate my mom and how she convinced thousands of people that she's the victim"
And TLDR, the mother is a lying abuser who willingly let herself spiral from untreated unmedicated depression and ppd...
No he didn’t, the other side{The tire story} is on ‘There is always two sides to every story’ it’s on one of their episodes
The story about the woman asking her parents to stay in town but not with her… girlie you’re not gonna want “alone time”….you’re gonna want 24/7 help with a newborn!
She should be GRATEFUL to have her parents willing to be there to help.
She’s romanticizing having a newborn. She’ll learn soon enough…
This!!! My parents left the day we came home from the hospital to give us time to bond and my husband and I wished they didn't. Babies are not easy and not getting regular sleep while you are still learning and recovering is so difficult.
I disagree. I needed the alone time after my baby. It’s not romanticizing, it’s realistic.
I guess what she means with "alone time" is not having to deal with guests. I'm not siding with her but I guess I can understand that
Edit: I'm not gunna delete this comment, but OP is a massive AH. Check out the daughter's version of events. OMG,
Story 1….. What she said is going to stick with her boys forever, that’s not really something you can walk back. But then again, I really hate the idea that the victim always has to be the bigger person in those situations. Do the boy’s know what she’s sacrificed? I can’t imagine how beat down you have to be to say that to your children. Maybe this can be their wake-up call.
One day, those boys are going to wake up from all the sh*t their dad and his family pushed into their heads and its going to wreck them to see how much pain they caused someone who gave them literally everything she could until they broke her. And it might be too late to fix anything, if OP ever finds herself in a place to accept their groveling for forgiveness. Not to sound like a broken record, but THERAPY… STAT! I think she needs an unbiased third party to remind her that the views her boys hold of her were learned behaviors, and I wish that someday they can meet and come to a place of peace and happiness with each other, but right now it sounds like they’re better off separated.
Agreed!
YEP. 100% agreed. and i hope it IS their wake up call and can learn from this. you can be an abuser/perpetuating abuse at any age, and you need to learn to take responsibility/accountability for how you are treating someone. all of them need therapy asap and she definitely needs to feel validated at this time because it is not okay. i hope she can heal from this and she gets the best outcome of this situation that she deems appropriate.
Also even if it is a wake up call for the boys….do you know any teenagers who would be willing to reach out to their parent after being told something like that? If I were 16 and my mom told me she hated me and wished she never had me and never wanted to see me again???? I would most definitely take that to heart. No matter how sorry the boys may be for their actions, she said she never wanted to see them again so why would they try to see her?
@@thereallunarose some kids are more self aware than you think. saying something like that would definitely make me reflect. they might not realize it and apologize as a teen, but they will as an adult. at the end of the day its the mom who has to decide to forgive all of that mistreatment and they're in the wrong, as well as the dad.
But shouldn't it be something that sticks with them forever? The fact that if you're such a garbage person then not even your own mother will love you? That you can't get away with treating people like crap and expect unconditional love?
Honestly, everyone needs therapy. But if it costs more than two Nintendo Switches, then who's gonna have to starve to pay for that? Society's screwed.
I’ve been in a few car accidents as well. And I always say the same thing, the sound of the crash will never leave me. It’s a horrific memory that I just can’t get out of my head. When you guys talked about it I totally understood what you were saying.
Story 1:
When Morgan read the title, my eyebrows automatically raised. But after hearing the whole story, damn, my heart hurts for the mom. :( Her words will definitely stick with the boys because the words were harsh, but then again if you were bullied to the point of exploding in anger, words will be said. I'm pretty sure that the boys learned it from the father or the father's family that "it's okay" to talk to their mom like that.
Sending love to the mother. She deserves to receive the love she gives to others. 💖
There's an update, the unmentioned daughter posted a story proving that the mom was the abusive one, it's on Mark Narrations
Don’t feel too bad, OP is a narcissist. She neglected her kids for years and then played the victim when they didn’t want to see her.
The last story literally had me SOBBING like oh my goodness so sweet so sad so much love so many emotions just wow
The last story I was listening to on my drive home this morning and literally sobbing with you guys as I was listening to it I had to park and take a minute to myself because omg that was the sweetest yet saddest story ever
Thank you for including such a beautiful last story. Pms had me WEEPING while I was sitting in bed at 12am eating hummus and listening to this lmao 😂
YALL STORY ONE HAS AN UPDATE AND BACKSTORY:
I hope they do an update because the DAUGHTER found out this was posted because of this podcast. She explains what actually happened along with OP’s history of ch!ld @buse and mental illness.
Basically she lost custody of the twins because she said she only wanted one more child and will one love the first one born. She neglected the other one. She takes every opportunity to be the victim. She said the kids weren’t grateful enough because they just said “Thank you.” Tried to get violent, and called them ingredients little See You N Teas. I really hope y’all go read the background because these kids are so torn up about this.
Yeah, I hope the kids will heal, I send them tons a love
And props to the dad for being a saint and taking in the daughter when they’re not biologically related
Can we take a moment to appreciate how darn cute it is when Morgan struggles to remember cliché sayings 💗💗💗
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When I was attending my daughter's bday at her father's home back in 2012, everyone treated me the same way. I went no contact until I healed
I’ve been in a physical rehab facility twice, about a decade apart. When I was 42, I had a stroke.(Tl/dr there was an unexpected hole in my heart that took a week to diagnose). After a week in hospital for testing while they were trying to come up with a reason for the stroke, and they were clueless until my last day when they did a test that revealed a small hole in my heart that should’ve closed when I was young, that didn’t. After my week in ICU and I think a week on Med/Surge, I was sent to a rehab hospital because while I was diagnosed almost immediately upon showing symptoms, there was some weakness in my left side. All this to say thank you to Morgan and her colleagues in the OT profession, as they were a saving grace during a trying time. Last year I had a bout of a UTI and had major water retention and fibromyalgia and arthritis pain in my knees that was so bad I needed intensive pain management, so I was admitted to our local hospital for treatment. After about a week there I was transferred back to the very same rehab hospital. While it’s name and staff had changed(thank goodness one of the nurses from my first visit had moved on, as she was worse than toxic), and again had a week and a half of intensive OT and PT, and again, the team was fantastic, and I know I can credit a great deal of my recuperation to them. Post hospital I had some in-home OT and PT(so Morgan if you ever want to get back in that game, I know it needs people just like you.) My OT and PT were so helpful and wonderful getting me back to status quo. So I have great sympathy and gratitude to those in those professions. So, in summation, thank you Morgan for your amazing podcast but I’m sure you’ll be missed in your previous profession. Love all your shows, love you and all your guest hosts(shoutout and snoot boops for Holly). Thanks again for all you do, I would not be here without your colleagues. And I’m binge listening to every episode, ever.
As someone who plans on naming their daughter something very specific as well, it would be a very very ice cold day in hell before I could be around someone who purposely stole that name without snapping their neck. Names can be sacred, especially when it’s in remembrance of someone who passed. If you’re willing to overstep that boundary you’ll never be anything but dead to me. It’s not just a word or a collection of letters, there’s an entire history behind it, symbolism, and sometimes even trauma. To have no attachment to the name other than hearing someone else close to you talk about it and the reason why it’s special to them, and to carelessly claim it as your own is the most despicable, disgusting, and reprehensible actions you could ever take. You deserve all the fallout from your pathetic decisions.
“It’s not just a word or a collection of letters, there’s an entire history behind it, symbolism, and sometimes even trauma.”
BEAUTIFULLY SAID 💓
Story 4: The SIL (Amy) actually commented on the post trying to defend herself and fails miserably
What did she say?
I can't seem to find it, I really wanna know how she was desperately trying to defend herself. Do you maybe still know her @?
@@yazmintorres9084 It seems to be removed because sis shared too much personal info but I found someone who did a recap.
Basically she complained that her brother became "cheap" since he got married and got a child and that he stopped helping her and their mother. That OP pays for her (OPs) sisters an thus she is intended to pay because OP has more money than she does. And much more that could be resumed by saying "I don't care about you guys or your need. Your are to pay for me, I deserve it." ETA. she obviously got called on that.
@@loan666 thank you for the recap!
For the baby names: a lot of people are having babies around this time because of when they got pregnant. Xmas, New Years, Valentine’s Day…
Thankyou for saying this I was thinking it lol 😂
We have like a 10th of our family birthdays in October haha 😂 atleast 4 birthday in the same week haha 😂
I haven’t cried to any of your episodes, that I’ve listened to yet, but this last story…. Man I was crying so hard with you.. what an amazing couple❤❤
Morgan has invented a new vibe: lovably dis-gust-ing lol. If anyone else came up with these scenarios (i.e. would you drink diarrhea to cure ibs) it wouldn't be adorable lol
Morgan can sometimes read out or say the grossest things I have ever heard in my life and then she laughs her adorable “hehe” laugh and I’m like yeah. You go girl. Tell me more
@@clairesmallwood2953 exactly! lol
hearing the first story after having heard the update/other side first is wild lmao
This podcast butters my bread. Much love 💖
I’m sobbing at that last story😭so heartbreaking, but their love is so beautiful.
“It’s not over..” “Oh God…..” you guys are so cute! Thursdays are my favorite ❤️
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Another point to the name story is what if the BIL had a hard time just dealing with hearing the name? With such an unused name they could go a very long time without hearing it. Even hearing it in public they can just leave the situation if it upsets them so much, but if the OP did name the kid that then I would assume the brother-in-law and girlfriend would either go no contact with the family. Or if the family is on the BIL’s side then they would also go low to no contact with OP’s family. Maybe they would stay in contact but it would be very strained either way.
George Orwell's animal farm, coming to a Nintendo Switch near you!
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The name story and the ballet, I was sitting here for most of the story thinking it was something like Clara from “the Nutcracker”, or even Giselle from the ballet “Giselle, ou les Wilis” something that doesn’t immediately make you think of the ballet, and can have some variations that aren’t immediately associated with the ballet.
But Odette has instant connotations to “Swan Lake”, so if it was the deceased girlfriends favorite ballet, and was a name picked out by her for her future daughter, that poor brother in law is probably doubly reminded of tragedy by that name. Oh my god the OP in that story is just heartless.
I hope that there will be a paranormal scary episode again soon.
Babe wake up Two Hot Takes posted
i never am here early so i just want to say i love your channel and the growth it has been going through. KEEP IT UP! thank you for being a figure i really look up too.
Story 1: there was another post that was a response to this story and it revealed that OP is a neglectful mom, hence why she lost custody of the kids, who always throws a fit and makes everything about herself. This outburst is just one of many from her and the kids did apparently thank her for the Switches.
The first story is probably one of the worst stories I’ve ever heard it broke my heart … I am getting vibes that maybe the mom was absent at a point in time or the father had more custody, but even if that is the case that does not warrant their behavior
It doesn’t sound like she was absent for a time, especially when she said she did so much for them and their father and they walked all over her, it seems like they chose to live with their dad when they divorced and she agreed (hence the walking over her) and wanted them to be happy although they don’t care about her feelings. It is truly heart breaking! As a mother I can sympathize with her, as a child I know I would be hurt if my mom said that to me. But the difference with that is I actually had a relationship with my mom, I didn’t walk over her and treat her like crap if she didn’t get me the things I wanted. It’s such a tough thing to go through on both sides. And as a mother it has to hurt worse that her kids aren’t coming to her directly to repair their relationship with her. 😢
@@Stephfleshman17 op said that she left her ex when he started hitting her (she was pregnant at the time) but when they were born they agreed that they should live with him because he was more financially secure.
First story was fake. THe mother is a lying narcissist, and the daughter made a post with the real explanation why they cut her out. Surprise, its the mom that's abusive...
Dont feel bad for her.. shes a fucking liar painting herself as a victim while she in reality was jsut a shitty mother. The otherside of this story is on reddit
@@meepsmeep7457 there's a daughter??
As a Filipina I can attest that we have a lot of cousins with the same name and we didn't really care hahahaha
Seriously look forward to your show every week on my commute
Crying at the last story, omg. What a beautiful couple. 😭😭
I think the baby name from the ballet is either Clara from The Nutcracker or Odette from Swan Lake.
edit: should've listened longer lmao
I love how Morgan can incorporate her experiences in OT and give some really great insight to these stories! Such a great podcast!
As a newer mom, the staying at the home story got to me. It's such an exhausting and almost dehumanizing time after having a newborn. I was in a small 2 bed apartment and my mom stayed with me for only a week and was there for the birth. I wish she could have stayed longer. Being able to pass on the baby to get a shower or just stare at my phone for an hour by myself was a godsend. There is no alone time with a newborn. My mother was a little toxic as usual but the benefits way outweighed the cons. She is TA huge
"Am i the asshole for bragging that the groom used to like me first right in front of the bride and everyone else at the wedding? Im just the girl best friend teehee" if i was that bride, that girl best friend would be walking out of the wedding without a scalp.
HEY THE FIRST STORY!! This was written by an abuser and there are multiple updates by the daughter of the OP. It was completley fake
I recently started watching your Two Hot Takes podcast. I’ve probably listened to around 12 or so of the full episodes. I just wanted to say how much your podcast has helped me. Seems silly… but I’m a stay at home mom and don’t have anyone to talk to all day. My toddlers talk to each other and me a lot but adult conversation is left at less than 2 hours a day and even that is late at night with my fiancé. I feel like I’m having a conversation with friends when I listen to your podcast. ESPECIALLY when it’s with Morgan & Lauren. I listen to you guys while I clean the house for hours a day. It helps me motivate and stay interested in cleaning more. I have ADHD and focusing and finishing a project is HARD. It’s even helped me outside of my lonely days though. I have had more things to contribute to conversation with my fiancé, or even family when I see them. I’m like “omg this crazy story was on my podcast” and have something to add to our discussions. I just wanted to express how grateful I am that I found your podcast. It’s the first podcast I’ve ever listened to. Well more than a few minutes. I usually lose interest very fast. Thank you guys for doing what you do. And I’m so happy for your success. I hope that someday I can sit back with friends and do something similar. ❤️
I usually only listen on Spotify but had to pop on here to say the last story also had me sobbing. My fiancé and I are both motorbikes and the possibility of us getting into a serious accident at anytime (all weather riders) is high. Days his phone dies when he’s driving home or traffic is backed up I think the worst case. Yay for therapy and positive men’s mental health
Why do I hate those darn bananas just hanging there, every time I see them I’m like WHYYYY lmao
that last story really made me cry. it made the hopeless romantic in me want to bury myself in love stories again
the last story was such a breath of fresh air. Finally just a husband who cares and the relationship is healthy they both want to go to counseling and care for each other. ❤