[TF2] The Trash Loadout Timeline
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2022
- Some guy forces himself to time travel just to experience the worst of the worst and how it became even worse somehow...
Have you ever started a project halfway through it and then realized you don't want to make it anymore? Imagine that but then also imagine the project crashing meaning you have to restart all the work you didn't want to do again.
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TheWhatShow's Worst Loadout
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SPECIAL CONTEST BABY:
There's a special contest regarding this video, whoever can speedrun getting a kill with each and every single loadout will have a chance of winning an Unusual Cloud 9 Undercover Brolly (The All-Class Umbrella Hat added in the Summer 2022 Crate)
The person with the fastest time of getting at least one kill with the loadouts, in numerical order wins the hat.
LOADOUT ORDER:
- Syringe Gun, Medigun, Bonesaw
- Backburner, Flaregun, Fire Axe
- Force-A-Nature, Bonk!, Stock Bat
- Rocket Jumper, Buff Banner, Shovel
- Pomson, Short Circuit, Eureka Effect (Sentry Kill does not count)
- Bazaar Bargain, Razorback, Tribalman's Shiv
- Brass Beast, Buffalo Steak Sandvich, Eviction Notice
- Rocket Jumper. B.A.S.E Jumper, Escape Plan
- B.A.S.E Jumper, Quickiebomb Launcher, Persian Persuader
- Enforcer, Spy-icicle, Red Tape Recorder, Cloak and Dagger
Your recorded run can be sent to my stupid UA-cam Email here:
spaceguyonlinetf2@gmail.com
Feel free to send a second clip if you get a better time.
With the winner being declared on the 25th of September 2022 in a community post, a community post regarding this event will also be made.
RULES:
- You must get at least one kill with any weapon within the loadout set
- Sentry Gun Kills will not count
- The loadout kills must be in order, you can't start with the Enforcer and then end at the Syringe Gun
- Speedrun must be done within an official Valve server
- Footage must start at the beginning of a round or match, you can't midway join through a match, you have to be there at the start. If the game swaps sides however such as in Payload, I'll allow it.
- Friendly Kills will count so go crazy on them. - Ігри
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I'll try to list the music I can in the years section. Let's see if I get this right:
2007: A Little Heart to Heart - Team Fortress 2
2008: Underground Theme - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
2009: Loonboon - Plants Vs. Zombies
2010: The Battle of Lil' Slugger - Super Meat Boy
2011: You Are Not Part of the Control Group - Portal 2
2012: Hydrogen - Hotline Miami (Song created by M.O.O.N.)
2013: Athletic - Super Mario 3D World (Sometimes confused with Double Cherry Pass by OST uploaders on YT, but this song isn't that one)
2014: Strike the Earth! - Shovel Knight
2015: Can You Really Call This a Hotel, I Didn't Recieve a Mint on my Pillow or Anything - Undertale
2016: Last Surprise (instrumental version, probably the one uploaded by Faz) - Persona 5
And that's all the years! Fun fact, each song chosen had its video game released on the same year that was being discussed while said song was playing. Very nice touch!
As for the outro theme, I can't pinpoint it, but I feel like it's something from Mother 3. But that OST has so many songs that I dunno if I can nail down exactly which one it is.
what about the intro theme?
@@pastadinnertheater8657 Eyewitness intro.
Erm acshully the syringe gun is good here's a clip of me killing a free to play pyro with the situational awareness of a lamp
We both know the sheer power the Overdose has, the name alone says it all.
🤓🤓🤓
@@SpaceGuyOnline what music u did ad at 8.20
the situational awareness of a lamp is my new favorite insult
@@darthgamer9861 damm
“More packed than a Romanian orphanage” thank you for making my day
the real geebanger0
@@bigfatgoons correct
That is true i would know i am romanian
Wrap assasin is the new Sandman now.
It is just as good, but waaay morenbalanced
Ironically true, no one used wrap assassin when sandman and clever combo existed. but after sandman's stun was absolutely gutted now wrap assassin is used more
i love how people used to hate this weapon. lack of updates really gives people time to think everything through
2007 was actually one of the best years for Medic. 15 years ago, a Sniper's aim could be challenged and Pyros didn't have airblast to push an Uber back. Engineers didn't have building pickups nor the Rescue Ranger to save their buildings from an Uber. No Uber-stunning Sandman nor Holiday Punch, no Dead Ringer to bypass chokepoints, no Buff Banner to snipe him with shotguns, no real counters to a Heavy+Medic combo (Snipers weren't good enough yet)... and nobody realized that Ubered patients were weak to explosive knockback.
It was equal parts the loadouts of the other 8 classes, and equal parts nobody deleting the 450 health of a Heavy.
I had to stop and freeze for a second when reading "15 years ago"
Still worst loadout
Uber didn't exist in 2007
@@MegaGaming11 it has existed since the release
@@manmanmanmanmanman ????????? You mean it *wasn't* introduced in teh Uber Update??? Then why's it called teh Uber Update????????
12:21 It was less of a wall and more of a circle around the engineer. Outside of deleting projectiles, I used to use it to track down spies and kill scouts who couldn't aim. All you needed to do was get close, m2, and wait. No aiming required.
You don't use the Red tape recorder to kill the sentry.
You use it to do emotional damage to the engineer.
Because him watching his level 3 sentry fold back into it's tool box will hurt him more than any number of ambassador headshots.
There's also the fact that red tape deletes the first upgrade almost immediately, guaranteed 200 metal down the drain. Also you can't self destruct building that's being taped, which can be useful against frontier justice engies.
No sapper allows self destruction while active of course but in that situation the red tape recorder's longer sap time is an asset.
But in the end I just use it to be an asshole.
American healthcare: "you owe us $$$$$"
Canada healthcare:" lol why not ☠️?"
Lol, I'm that Soldier that duel you with that loadout at 17:47
There was a lot of mobility with it, but as you seen, I just got absolute shredded trying to actually frag
Can't believe you said Medic is the worst of 2007 classes, when Uber and healing were as powerful then as they are now.
Real worst 2007 class is a Pyro, no airblast, old flame particle behavior, shotgun with old switch speed, stock melee only. No point in using 2007 pyro over any other power class.
Yes but also no the time you build uber you were unable to really defend youreself i think yes uber is powerfull but not under does konditions
couldnt you make your uber last 17 seconds back then by rapidly switching between the medigun and another weapon? also i think u could uber flash ur entire team with no penalty
Pyro has always been the best Spy-Checking class.
The Engineer couldn’t move his buildings or upgrade his dispenser and tele at launch, and it wouldn’t be until nearly 3 years later he’d get the ability to move buildings and get the Wrangler, Frontier Justice and Gunslinger
@@majorian9406 An Engineer with level 3 sentry set up will hard counter pyro, so pyro is weaker. Also even at lv1 teleporter and dispenser provide support to the team, pyro does not.
Loonboon playing as the 2009 segment begins, truely a man of culture.
Also remember when the short circuit fired as fast as the pistol, did okay damage, cost 5 metal, and deleted projectiles. I think lazypurple has a video on that. From a few years back.
Discluding some dumb melee-only loadouts on Soldier/Demo, the worst must be Degreaser + Gas Passer + Hot Hand.
You can do some solid stuff with just the degreaser alone, with the gas passer you're just forcing yourself to play with your team but still
@@MinoriGaming yeah, ultimately, with pyro, you can always somewhat W+M1, (even if fire-wise, the degreaser is pretty much the worst)
N O.
*puts the phlog*
With the Phlog + Gas and Hot Hand its a terrible loadout. The Phlog has no airblast, and its better use a shotgun if you are with Soldiers but... Oh i have a stinky gas can. And a butt slapper. I think its better put the Volcano Fragment as the Melee but whatever.
Im just saying my opinion for the worst loadout for Pyro.
@@bizarro_SOficial No airblast kinda sucks, but the crits hit pretty hard, especially if you can just throw the can at a choke point and build some of the MMMPH bar :^)
Also, IMO Volcano Fragment would be more useful than Hot Hand in medieval mode -- or just doing one solid crit hit instead of two separate ones.
The red tape recorder is okay at least against turtle engies who literally sit on their buildings. The regular sapper just removes health so a few wrench swings can undo that quickly, but the tape recorder will now make them have to use more metal to upgrade their shit again.
Honestly, I always use the red tape. Partly to be contrarian, partly because in pubs sentry nests are unkillable so at least downgrading even by one level will waste a lot more metal. Even if there are 4 engineers around to protect the sentries, they will usually focus on the spy just long enough for the sapper to downgrade a level. Plus they never expect it.
That intro slapped me with nostalgia so hard
Do you know what the music at the beginning is? Sounds familiar but I can’t pin it down.
@@arc_4543 eyewitness intro song. Would never forget it.
@@arc_4543 tier zoo
As an awesome alliteration author myself, something in this video seems slightly suspicious, Spaceguy.
Unironically me and 2 others used to do booties and the quickiebomb and even in pre-buff it was really good, being able to sling like 200 damage at most any range with a wide range mortar team.
any loadout using the sandman is the worst in my book
Says the man who made 10,000 point exploit with the sandman
@@SpaceGuyOnline shit you’re right
“Eureka effect is most forgettable” uncle Dane would suggest otherwise
Eureka effect is forgettable? I’d say it’s the second most memorable wrench, first gunslinger than it, definitely really creative and a fun new mechanic
the "who the fuck puts sentry here?" wrench
If only it can be stranged
I know one way that makes bonk useful and that is as a sentry distraction,.You bonk and stand in front of a enemy sentry and then another person on your team destroys it as its targeting you leaving the sentry and its nest defenseless and therefore you dont require a uber to destroy it. It is a really good strategy but unfortunately people usually don't follow along with the idea despite it actually being a pretty good one its helped me in quite a few games.
If only Wrangler wasn't used by basically everyone)
honestly, i think the worst loadout in 2010 was the same as the one you used, but with the gunboats instead of the buff banner. sure, it's really hard to build up its rage meter, but at least it does something, while the gunboats' benefits are cancelled by the rocket jumper
also, another thing you forgot to mention: the rocket jumper made you take *double damage* from practically everything in the game at the time
bruh that walking with monsters intro is sum serious business
No way was medic the worst on launch. No airblast meant Uber was basically unstoppable.
I distinctly remember pyro being the weakest class on launch, and wasn't really good until airblast.
your quality just keeps getting better and better, great job!
As someone who always uses spycicle, cloak and dagger, and red tape recorder on spy I feel attacked
GOOD
I wonder how different each year is from 2018-2022, with how much new stuff has been added and items changed :)
I genuinely don't get valve's balance philosophy sometimes. On one hand they nerf the fuck out of the bison but on the other they make the bazaar bargain a straight upgrade 'cause why bother with charging if you can quickscope your way into max heads without even worrying about missing.
My guy is spitting out rhymes like a fucking doctor suess book
Oh good I return to you and see your mic has improved thank you so much
Exciting new video. Cheers SpaceGuy.
No mention of how the rocket jumper used to use the same model as stock so medics might get confused and kritz you?
If they had the brain the size of a walnut sure.
I can see why you took longer to make this video. SFM is a pain in the ass
The worst loadout now is definitely rocket jumper, gun boats, and any melee of your choice besides market gardener.
Damn good editing quality!
1:39 funny enough I actually scrapped all my overdoses for some reason "so tecknickally that isn't me but instead an imposter 🤓🤓🤓"
The worst builds of the year were whatever I was running B)
"2010 was more packed than a Romanian orphanage"
I will never understand the flak Bonk gets. When it was first added, it was the way to deal with sentries without waiting for 90 seconds to get an uber. You chug that thing, you run in, the sentry shoots an *invincible Scout* while someone else takes out the sentry.
Even after the nerf of "slow down after using Bonk equal to damage ignored" and the addition of a Wrangler, the Engineers more often than not run away or stick to repairing their sentry under fire, and a Scout can still eat those shots by interposing himself between the shooting ally and a sentry - bullets fired by Heavy go through Scout and Demos just need to aim a bit higher.
Something that has a ~20 second CD and is available *immediately* vs something you have to build over the course of *one and a half minutes* while risking losing it to a back stab, playing a class nobody wants to play - any reasonable person will pick the former
It took me a second to notice that for every year, the background theme accompanying it was from a game that released during that year
I see what you did there, putting the music from those exact years in the background
loved the jokes man. keep it up!
I think the worst loadout for medic today is any medigun with "Syringe-gun" and the Vita-saw bec its just bad on anything
Damn, the eye witness theme just brings some nostalgia. Thank you sir
The Eureka Effect is not the most forgettable weapon, especially not after Uncle Dane’s Jag-Effect rollout became popular, plus its mechanic is popular with ninja-neering
If you wanna talk about a weapon that’s absolutely forgettable, talk about The Family Business, I don’t think ANYONE even REMEMBERS Heavy has his own shotgun variant
Nah family business is commonly used for fat scout.
Obviously said it for the script and so the writing was fleshed out but from personal experience I've forgotten that the Short Circuit was in the game several times while working on other videos, it's just like a niche item and it doesn't help that it was released alongside the two big game changer weapons (Machina, Diamondback) that are both primaries
the family business is basically THE fat scout weapon because of the two extra shots in the clip; it's really good when you decide you're not using your minigun for reasons
i'd say the most forgettable weapon is like, the southern hospitality or the pain train (or if you wanted to include reskins, the crossing guard or something)
Oh the Rocket Jumper was WAAAAAYYYY worse back in '10 when it was first added. It was added to the game with a -100 HP PENALTY only to swap that out with a +100% DMG VULNERABILITY to EVERYTHING during the Smissmas update. You died immediately to anyone sneezing in your general direction and your only saving grace was the OP old Equalizer, random crits and preying on incompetent players.
Old short circuit could lock onto cloaked and disguised spies
Wouldn't the gunboats be worse than the base jumper in the rocketjumper/escape plan loadout?
10:51 Look ma, I'm on TV
Good vid btw
God that music intro is a throwback.
love how the music matches the year
Wake up babe, new Space Guy vid dropped
I like to use the Hibernating bear set unironically
the flaregun incident - tf2 2008
That intro theme threw me into a nostalgia spiral
Damn bro prehistoric world and walking with monsters??
It was the best of weapons, it was the BLURST of weapons?!
The eviction notice used to be good, it was nerfed.
I like how he plays hydrogen in the background for 2012, the same year hotline Miami was published
Worst these days is Hard to say, Demoman B.A.S.E Jumper, Persian, and Quick/Scottish Resistance is one of the top 3, Soldier with Gunnboats, Rocket Jumper and likely Paintrain/Escape Plan, and Pyro Phlog, Gas Passer and Volcano Fragment are all equally as Bad as your 1 good damage score is kind not good on it's own and rely too much on enemies not having ears or/and eyes to get get kills.
Is... is that the "eyewitness documentaries" intro song at the beginning of your video? I used to watch those as a kid for school, haven't thought about it for literal *YEARS*.
As unbalanced as the old short circuit was, I still miss it greatly. The particle deletion was much cheaper and bigger (but shorter) which made it a nightmare for demos, soldiers that like to just shoot at your feet, and it was the best spy checker (the old short circuit had like a little lightning bolt trail that followed cloaked spies) in the game outside of pyro.
The overdose is so much better offensively than stock. I was using it the other day as battle medic on harvest. You can outrun basically everyone at full charge which is a godsend.
Dawg you need to put the song titles in the description, you’re killing me
this video made me look back at my mercenary badge to see when i started playing... fuck i have been playing this for 10 years?
I dont know why you keep it up but i love the random letter alliteration you have in each video. Like, in the heavy video:
You *h*opped into a *h*appy match of tf2 for an *h*our-or so you *h*oped. You, *h*owever *h*orrifically decided to pick *h*eavy, *h*aving *h*alf the classes designed to be nothing but *h*armful *h*azard (especially to your *h*ead) you're *h*alted from *h*aving fun.
And you continue that trend with cocks and Jesus Christ or something. Cool stuff SpaceGuy
2007 and 2008: Heavy I believe had the worst loadouts during this time.
In 2007 Heavy's minigun spun up as fast as the natascha does today, Shotgun is alright, but the fists are the worst stock weapon due to his speed. Heavy just had an all around worse kit then even the medic, Bonesaw is an old reliable and the Syringe Gun while bad was an ok defensive option.
In 2008 Heavy's Natscha had an ok slowdown effect for a chunk of damage lost, Sandvich couldn't be dropped and only healed 120 Health, and the fists again are still mediocre.
Me who uses the red tape just to annoy engineers defending the payload or point kek
2007:a loadout odyssey
I like how he says that its more packed then an Romanian orphanage its true i would know im Romanian
An astounding amount of abundant and awful alliterations
damn, to think the fucking airblast has been in the game since 2008
all that time and it was never removed or altered to make fighting pyro actually fair for soldiers
Can we get a list of the music you used in this video? Some of them I recognize, but others I don't and am curious about (17:40 especially).
I believe the song used there is from the shovel knight soundtrack. I thiiiink it's "Strike the earth"
At least the bonesaw gets a sticker for being medic’s highest DPS Melee
Short circuit and eviction notice are bad. Everything else is either op on mvm or situational. Even then some are actually good like the Persian Persuader and Atomizer. Also the Manmelter is practically a straight upgrade to the flaregun, there's almost no point not to use it instead of the normal flare gun.
Also how did the pomson spell medigun wrong
what happened to the box in the corner telling you what song was playing, It was a good addition to the video! Now I cant find any of the tracks :(
Worst loadout is a trolldier that doesn't know rocket jumping.
If you think that the 2011 Eureka Effect was garbage, may I introduce you to the pain known as the 2014 Eureka Effect.
While you could finally haul your buildings, and teleport to your Teleporter Exit, it came with two new downsides:
17 Swings to Upgrade to Level Two (34 for Level Three), and repairing also being halved.
You know, making the first job of the Engineer, upgrading buildings, into a task that takes double the time to do the same thing as any other wrench. And take your second job, protecting your buildings, into a even harder task.
Fun.
Aggresive diplomacy
rip legends
worst loadout belongs to demoman, with the booties, base jumper and caber
Rocket jumper, gunboats and escape plan
The original Short Circuit was way more dumb and easy to use. The primary fire does a short range taser attack. The secondary fire shot out a projectile deleting attack within the same range as the taser. The issue was, no timing was needed. You hold down alternative fire, and for the low cost of five metal, you delete a projectile near you.
Sticky trap? Gone
Critical rocket? Gone
Arrow? Gone
Ten soldiers firing rockets at your single sentry? Might be enough to drain your metal reserves to kill your sentry.
The current version requires you to time and aim your ball to delete projectiles, so is more fun to play with and against.
The enforcer is accuracy over speed and it's milliseconds longer
It's a half a second longer and it's just as inaccurate as all the other revolvers.
If you're looking for a revolver that does reward accuracy there's the Ambassador.
Damn, the Romanian orphanage joke hit hard 🤯
I believe this loadout was from around 2012:
Spy with Diamondback, Red-Tape Recorder, Your Eternal Reward, and Dead Ringer
OG Diamondback gave crits when a building was destroyed by your sapper, not backstabs. Otherwise it was a downgrade from Stock. And Red-Tape Recorder hasn't changed much so you know it's a shit weapon already. So now you have a worse revolver with basically no way to sap. But there's more.
As you know, the Dead Ringer doesn't let you cloak until you're hit by an enemy (or take fall damage), but originally it didn't have the speed boost it's so well known for. In addition, the Your Eternal Reward originally didn't let you disguise. At all.
All in all, you had a strictly worse revolver, no disguise, you needed to be shot at to cloak, on the weakest class in the game, and your ability to sap buildings if you could even get to them was severely reduced.
A video has spawned, let’s gooooo
3:25 It sucks that they removed this stat, it was the only Pyro primary that was even remotely survivability based.
Milk is a hidden top tier in reality
I have a feeling this guy likes alliteration
The enforcer used to be a really good weapon for gunspies. It used to be that while undisguised spy dealt extra damage which made the load out way more aggressive. Shame it got changed.
How about rocket jumper, gunboats, and Pain Train on a Capture the Flag map?
degreaser, gas passer, and hot hand.
the gas passer needs damage to charge up correct, well what if you has a flamethrower that does less damage on all fronts, with it's only upside being switch speed, which, why would you ever switch to your gas passer over a shotgun or flare gun, as you are always going to be a safe distance from scouts or spies when using this, so you'd have to switch to the hot hand in a tight situation right? but then you remember the hot hand does less damage than the stock bat and gives you less of a speed boost than the powerjack.
so you have a loadout with next to no damage, a worse flamethrower, and bad surviveability.
I'll pay money for a strange eureka effect. I already have a advanced ks renamed one with a description. (Genuine exit's, but i don't think 40€'s is worth the color change).
Have any of you guys seen how powerful the stock syringe gun is on x10? Still can't easily kill heavies, but you can absolutely delete other classes. And your ears if you use hitsounds.
Amazing intro
The intro is a TierZoo reference, isn't it? :D
Nice Video Today!
I do think these would be the worst loadout to every class nowadays:
Scout: Backscatter+crit-a-cola+Sandman.
Soldier: Rocket Jumper+Righteous Bison+Default Shovel
Pyro: Phlogistinator+Gas passer+Hot hand.
Demoman: Base jumper+sticky Jumper+Claidheam mor
Heavy: The same you mentioned in the video.
Medic: Default syringe gun+Kritzkrieg+Vita saw.
Sniper: Classic + Razorback + Tribalman Shiv. Sydney sleeper at least has a increased charge, so it's not that bad compared to Classic.
Spy: Enforcer+Red taper recorder+Your Eternal Reward+Dead Ringer.
The best of times, the worst of weapons...