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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @meshuggahshirt
    @meshuggahshirt 2 місяці тому +123

    I loved when Seth said "it's panharmonicking time"

    • @BauldyBoys
      @BauldyBoys 2 місяці тому +24

      Ya I loved when he panharmoniconed all over his opponents

    • @AesirOdinn
      @AesirOdinn 2 місяці тому

      And panharmonicked all around the place

    • @Xerdoz
      @Xerdoz 2 місяці тому

      @@AesirOdinn PanharmoniMOMed.

    • @sheaandrus-oak6546
      @sheaandrus-oak6546 2 місяці тому

      Mockingbird is the shit I got my play-set super earily hell I pulled 3 at pre-release

  • @CenJohan
    @CenJohan 2 місяці тому +50

    That doorkeeper thrull + Gix in Game 2 really ended Seth’s desire to play it out. Loses his etb’s and has to watch his opponent draw cards.

  • @RasmusVJS
    @RasmusVJS 2 місяці тому +135

    Greenshell is literally shooting birds out of the sky in the art work, why wouldn't it have Reach?

    • @goomshill
      @goomshill 2 місяці тому +24

      Bullet seed is super effective

    • @patatop850
      @patatop850 2 місяці тому +4

      It does have reach

    • @jonasl9068
      @jonasl9068 2 місяці тому +15

      @@patatop850 the comment is in response to seth asking why it has reach

    • @RasmusVJS
      @RasmusVJS 2 місяці тому +1

      @@patatop850 Yes. And Seth was asking why it had it.

    • @SkynetSpider
      @SkynetSpider 2 місяці тому +10

      Half the cards with a bow on it don't have reach.

  • @Sylvr369
    @Sylvr369 2 місяці тому +34

    21:21 My own reaction to seeing SaffronOlive is approximately the same reaction I have when I see a happy Golden Retriever. Pretty much the exact opposite of fear.

  • @as95ms98
    @as95ms98 2 місяці тому +15

    Greenshell looks like the fun, fair version of Nadu. I love it!

    • @aaronkelly8725
      @aaronkelly8725 2 місяці тому +1

      Greenshell is the nadu i invite to my birthday dinner

  • @SlurpyBoi.0529
    @SlurpyBoi.0529 2 місяці тому +38

    @59:43 "Main Phase crew clacking"
    I don't think I have laughed harder at anything Seth has ever said before.

    • @sireklz1169
      @sireklz1169 2 місяці тому +3

      So glad someone mentored it too. So hilarious. We love you Seth never change

    • @krzuker
      @krzuker 2 місяці тому +7

      "crew clacking" is what skeleton pirates call teambuilding

    • @ther3aper561
      @ther3aper561 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@krzuker fuck that's pretty good

  • @Inconspicuousdoormat
    @Inconspicuousdoormat 2 місяці тому +46

    Not now, new panharmonicon video just dropped

  • @spardaman
    @spardaman 2 місяці тому +13

    Seth playing Panharmonicon-like decks always give me the good vibes. 🤣

  • @krownvekta09
    @krownvekta09 2 місяці тому +3

    Greenshell has been such an impressive card for me. I love it in Golgari Lands especially. It is a cool card to reanimate with Coiling Rebirth. Just a cool card all around.

  • @TheeMasterSword
    @TheeMasterSword 2 місяці тому +2

    I ran against this last night, not hours after you posted it and without having seen the video myself and it was a fun deck to battle. I was on Simulacrum and ended up melding Urza Planeswalker and exiling both their Fecund Greenshells after a timely Get Lost for their Elesh Norn. Fun deck.

  • @SpringDryad
    @SpringDryad 2 місяці тому +10

    That first game was AMAZING.

  • @ryanedwards7487
    @ryanedwards7487 2 місяці тому +1

    This card is absolutely great. I put a couple in my Squirrel deck, mostly as a wall, but once I realized it's synergy with a squirrel mill deck and Carmelia, I was very pleasantly surprised.

  • @victoriancu5661
    @victoriancu5661 2 місяці тому +2

    It’s funny you made a green white deck when you saw this turtle. I made green black because I saw that landfall lizard and immediately thought about using the effect to trigger the landfalls. I run sheoldred too. My deck’s funny combo is to sack all my lands with pitiless carnage and use aftermath analyst or the new mythic 6 drop to get the lands back from the graveyard.its value city. Your idea is great too. Curious to watch your games though.

    • @number4497
      @number4497 2 місяці тому +1

      Oh that’s a really fun combo though. “We’ve got scapeshift at home/in standard” strategy lol

  • @Togsworth
    @Togsworth 2 місяці тому +5

    Tried to make this kind of thing after the pre release but more agro and it just didn't work too well. Its so good to see this working

  • @KingOfDoma
    @KingOfDoma 2 місяці тому +2

    "Damn, I don't even have double blue mana... ... okay, now let's mill this blue source..."

  • @gemyniraptor8626
    @gemyniraptor8626 2 місяці тому

    Seth, this deck looks like the kind of Non-black midrange party ive been looking for. and funnily enough I already ahd part of the shell built from my Elesh Norn Festival deck, Greenshell seems like a good replacement for Festival. great content as always friend

  • @MrBrockProductions
    @MrBrockProductions 2 місяці тому +1

    35:30 it didnt matter obviously but you should usually copy the dreamdew entrancer with flying, especially since they had no cards in hand to interact

  • @RedPandaStan
    @RedPandaStan 2 місяці тому +7

    I wish greenshell gave that ability to creatures instead of being attached to it, then we could make a shell that uses delney instead of elesh norn since most cards in the greenshell shell have power 2 or less

  • @jacobbrj
    @jacobbrj 2 місяці тому +3

    BTW, fecund greatshel will trigger for eldrazi spawn. not sure that matters for standard, but sounds super fun with kozilek's command...

  • @luciushilliard6352
    @luciushilliard6352 2 місяці тому +7

    The guy saw your name in the insta-win game & feared what you might be brewing.

    • @Brodysseous
      @Brodysseous 2 місяці тому +7

      "I ain't getting housed by jank for the world to see" - That Guy

    • @-Karnage
      @-Karnage 2 місяці тому +1

      Or he left because he's just a Timmy in Platinum getting matched up against a top 500 Mythic player.

  • @jameshayes-barber9340
    @jameshayes-barber9340 2 місяці тому +4

    40:05 The Heartfire hero still had a stun counter on it. It would have still been tapped. I believe the better play was locking down the manifold.

  • @KoshoShinogi
    @KoshoShinogi 2 місяці тому +2

    Season of Weaving is good with the turtle. Copies it twice giving you a minimum of 5 turtle triggers, and draws a card on curve.

  • @chrisbonjour111
    @chrisbonjour111 2 місяці тому +2

    This deck looks like a wild ride and I love it

  • @FlawlessRhythmGG
    @FlawlessRhythmGG 2 місяці тому

    Love the PanharMoMicon deck. I'm totally going to play this.

  • @Kazedor
    @Kazedor 2 місяці тому

    Your panharmonicon videos are the best!

  • @Atmapalazzo
    @Atmapalazzo 2 місяці тому +3

    So I think I know the reason (besides what the art shows) why greenshell has reach. It's typing as an elemental makes me believe that it's a calamity beast, so it's probably large enough to knock down the smaller creatures of Bloomburrow.

    • @ther3aper561
      @ther3aper561 2 місяці тому

      Idk if I'd say it's full calamity beats since Lumra is the green one for the plane but it's definitely big enough to swat the smaller creatures for sure

    • @syrelian
      @syrelian 2 місяці тому +1

      Meanwhile Eldrazi Titans: "I no care about small bird"

    • @number4497
      @number4497 2 місяці тому

      @@syrelian15 flying squirrels on the other hand….

  • @ahhhabee
    @ahhhabee Місяць тому

    elesh norn mother of machines is one of my absolute favorite creatures to play right now. I have her in a white weenie deck in historic, and you would be shocked how many people just scoop the game after she resolves

  • @TransformersBoss
    @TransformersBoss 22 дні тому

    1:01:05 Atraxa, Grand Unifier gets Surveiled into graveyard on turn 1.
    Seth: “hmmm what is our opponent playing? Rakdos aggro? Fling? A Grixis Crim deck?”
    This is worse than Dora the Explorer. “It’s Reanimator! Seth! Look at the graveyard! It’s Reanimator!”

  • @brianarsuaga5008
    @brianarsuaga5008 2 місяці тому

    "panharmoni-mom" got me, that's fun

  • @Arcolyte13
    @Arcolyte13 2 місяці тому +7

    I think the mistake was not having dopplegang. Would have definitely been the thing to push it to undefeated 😅

    • @leonfriedemann9151
      @leonfriedemann9151 2 місяці тому

      Was thinkin of one copy of it in the deck, having so much mana ... Maybe even one desert😅

    • @syrelian
      @syrelian 2 місяці тому

      I think a Dopplegang would probably be TOO overkill, no haste creatures, and its really likely that Doppleganging for even a smallish number would empty the deck if you targeted the Turtle, demanding a Do or Die turn

    • @Arcolyte13
      @Arcolyte13 2 місяці тому +1

      @@syrelian sounds like the perfect choice then.

  • @awesomeguy5451
    @awesomeguy5451 2 місяці тому +7

    fecund greenshell is basically nadu at home lol

  • @Invisible_Cow
    @Invisible_Cow 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel like half the time these decks work as well as they do because of the person playing them. Makes me happy that mindlessly playing the top meta decks does not just guarantee free wins.

  • @1000Tomatoes
    @1000Tomatoes 8 днів тому

    Oh it's got those seed pods which you're not supposed to go near because they explode to send the seed flying as far away as possible from the parent.

  • @provostparkpass
    @provostparkpass 2 місяці тому +5

    ShellSHOCKED!

  • @FreshLeafyVegetables
    @FreshLeafyVegetables 2 місяці тому

    I play Nantuko Springheart on the turtle in Commander and usually people scoop. Big fan.

  • @wormspeaker
    @wormspeaker 2 місяці тому

    For once Seth got the pronunciation right and I was wrong. I always thought fecund was pronounced fee-kund, but it's actually pronounced fuh-kund. Good job Seth.

  • @Gureiseion
    @Gureiseion 2 місяці тому

    Fecund Greenshell is my top end in a Analyst / Worldsoul's Rage build. So much value.

  • @volosguidetomonsters3440
    @volosguidetomonsters3440 2 місяці тому

    Me: playing UW control vs soldiers
    Opponent: Season of the Burrow
    Seth's opponent: Season of the Burrow

  • @Germynator31
    @Germynator31 2 місяці тому

    Seth loves to durdle with the turtle 😂

  • @montefrenkel8205
    @montefrenkel8205 2 місяці тому +6

    Butts and panharmonicons? Christimas in July.
    But blue and green without doppelgang feels simply wrong, even if it would be terrible.

    • @aidanfoss8551
      @aidanfoss8551 2 місяці тому +3

      every simic players pet card lol

    • @TheKingsdread
      @TheKingsdread 2 місяці тому

      @@aidanfoss8551 Once you go simic... remember kids say no to simic, its bad for you.

    • @aidanfoss8551
      @aidanfoss8551 2 місяці тому

      @@TheKingsdread sultai on top

  • @isaacbenrubi9613
    @isaacbenrubi9613 2 місяці тому +2

    When Fecund Greenshell shoots flowers out of his back, Seth makes a video about it.
    When I do it, I get "sent to a place where I can get the help I need."
    It's not fair

  • @graeme5048
    @graeme5048 2 місяці тому

    Clearly Seth needs to turn this into a deck for Clash

  • @leemay7780
    @leemay7780 2 місяці тому

    the word Fecund makes me think of Feces and therefore: Poop Turtle

  • @DanieleLizzio
    @DanieleLizzio 2 місяці тому

    I play a similar deck UG with Doppelgang... including a landfall version UGB with Vinelasher. Very very fun :)

  • @jmv333
    @jmv333 2 місяці тому

    What a great fecund deck!

  • @faxfax789
    @faxfax789 2 місяці тому

    Plot twist: He trained an actual turtle to draw the cards for him

  • @boontish1104
    @boontish1104 2 місяці тому

    Now this is against the odds

  • @jaxsonbateman
    @jaxsonbateman 21 день тому

    OMG, Seth (possibly) trying to punt at 1:00:04 when he has lethal with Mockingbird. 😅 Fortunately opponent scooped, but was Seth really going to copy the Entrancer for the lethal? We'll never know.

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina 2 місяці тому +1

    Seth, have you seen the deck with burn Bright/Mastercraft raptor?
    I thought it was a pretty hilarious fling deck. Use cards like I'll timed explosion, craft to build a 26 or so power raptor then fling using cards like burn bright or that backup vampire!

  • @Ottamus_Prime
    @Ottamus_Prime 2 місяці тому

    Fecund is definitely a favorite of mine right now

  • @matthewjecelin8358
    @matthewjecelin8358 2 місяці тому +1

    I like standard but black has so much good removal that I despise playing against it

  • @victoriancu5661
    @victoriancu5661 2 місяці тому

    I think the bat duo card that gains life on etc would really work well in this deck. It’s a flying blocker early on, and it gives you much needed healing that pairs with the rest of your deck. It has higher toughness than power as a 1/2, and gets its life gain trigger doubled by elish norn. I know it’s a common, but it bits the theme of your deck quite well. Also I noticed you weren’t really ever using the clue tokens from novice inspector. Why not replace that? I feel like your biggest weakness with this deck is your inability to heal. Healing on etb sounds like the perfect solution. Once you get your turtle buffs your bio becomes a flying threat too. Consider it maybe?

  • @-Karnage
    @-Karnage 2 місяці тому +2

    The guy who conceded right away was in Platinum rank. How does this game manage to match you two up while you're in top 500 Mythic?

  • @GorGoMSE
    @GorGoMSE 2 місяці тому

    Fecund Greenshell is basically magics version of Bulbasaur. that why it has reach.

  • @derecksheppard5913
    @derecksheppard5913 2 місяці тому

    The pure simic version with outlaw stitchers and far scarier green cards that spiral out of control because of railway breakers and bonny paul might work a lot better. But then again, it's not panharmonican of course, heh.

  • @notgryphon
    @notgryphon 2 місяці тому

    Risen Reef with combat stats does seem to be pretty good

  • @rykx0r
    @rykx0r 2 місяці тому +2

    ... Isn't Shooter McGavin the villain from Happy Gilmore?

  • @pneuma08
    @pneuma08 2 місяці тому

    I pulled off a Doppelgang x2 on a Fecund Greenshell the other day, and proceeded to drown by opponent in value from that point on.

  • @Tstyles8
    @Tstyles8 2 місяці тому

    I think the reason the guy scooped in game 2 is because he was paired super far up. He was only in platinum 3 and the game matched him with someone in mythic

  • @jackthebroken2084
    @jackthebroken2084 2 місяці тому

    Someone basically played this exact deck against me in draft and I cried.

  • @sethchapman1425
    @sethchapman1425 2 місяці тому

    Well now it's time to make a deck that has all the panhermoncon

  • @XxKyle318xX
    @XxKyle318xX 2 місяці тому

    Panharmulligan: if you take a mulligan put twice the number of cards back lol

  • @RoRoRoRonan
    @RoRoRoRonan 2 місяці тому +2

    There are some cards Seth just immediately scoops to.
    Two turns of Gix and he's already out hahaha

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  2 місяці тому +5

      I can't let the opponent draw more cards than me. That's my one rule.

  • @FS-dw7nj
    @FS-dw7nj 2 місяці тому

    Pioneer list with Awaken the Woods, Blossoming tortoise and Sylvan Advocate please. Let's make some beefy lands boi!

  • @xchronox0
    @xchronox0 2 місяці тому

    "Not sure why it has reach"
    There's quite a few bloomburrow elementals that have reach
    quaketusk boar, fecund greenshell, galewind moose, and lumra, bellow of the woods,
    not sure why any of them do to be honest.

    • @niklasbauer7026
      @niklasbauer7026 2 місяці тому

      incoming flyer emphasis in 2-3 sets

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 2 місяці тому

      @@niklasbauer7026 Bloomburrow also has a lot of fliers, since it has a lot of birds and bats. Which if you look at it, the fliers this set are mostly in blue/white/black. While the creatures with reach I mentioned are all green/red.
      Looks like they wanted to make sure fliers aren't free in set constructed/draft

  • @destroyerbot2066
    @destroyerbot2066 2 місяці тому +3

    my favorite part of the video was when Seth said "it's Panharmonicking time" then Panharmonicked all over the opponents board

  • @matthiascronqvist13
    @matthiascronqvist13 2 місяці тому

    What is that last deck you played against? What is that five color reanimator pile? I want to see THAT list of cards.

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc 2 місяці тому

    1:05:22 early scoop. Can block with frog then flicker it

  • @PaullyDM
    @PaullyDM 2 місяці тому

    Have you played the Cave deck in a while? I've been having success with it, got a sick decklist that is multipurposal if you want to see it.

  • @gothco
    @gothco 2 місяці тому

    Virtue of Knowledge is an enchantment-nomicon. Was it considered to cut the white?

  • @svendsmitha.623
    @svendsmitha.623 2 місяці тому

    Catchup-icon 😂

  • @aventuraenlafogata649
    @aventuraenlafogata649 2 місяці тому +4

    19:46 You could have just "Three Steps Ahead" counter the Go for the Throat and won that game there.

    • @themage1115
      @themage1115 2 місяці тому +3

      he did not have uu available to use the counter mode on TSA

  • @ther3aper561
    @ther3aper561 2 місяці тому

    Why is no one talking about Seth knowing Shooter McGavin by proxy!

    • @leemay7780
      @leemay7780 2 місяці тому +1

      lot of controversy around proxies prob why

  • @ave_maria323
    @ave_maria323 2 місяці тому

    Greenshell got me a win today ^^

  • @cheezedemon7288
    @cheezedemon7288 2 місяці тому

    Bedrock tortoise seems like it could be a good add, but I dont know how you'd be able to include it

  • @reaganl.607
    @reaganl.607 2 місяці тому

    i wonder if like beza as a one of would be good in this deck, loves mommycon and helps stabilize more consistently against aggro?

  • @infernotitan1158
    @infernotitan1158 2 місяці тому

    So.. if Elesh Norn is our Panharmonicon, but she's the "Mother of Machines," does that mean we could call her our PanharMOMicon?

  • @TheHuktuk
    @TheHuktuk 2 місяці тому

    ''PAAANHaaarrrmulligan time... '' xD

  • @orena932
    @orena932 2 місяці тому

    While Greenshell is great, you should see the comebacks arising from Blueshell

  • @trevormader5263
    @trevormader5263 2 місяці тому

    Greenshell and siege rhino against the odds deck please!

  • @cupcakeapplesauce
    @cupcakeapplesauce 2 місяці тому

    Dreamdew really just a removal spell vs that toxic deck

  • @MindstabThrull
    @MindstabThrull 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if that one guy scooped when he saw your name because they wanted to play against the metagame and seeing your name means a good chance of playing against randomness instead. Does that count as your username being scary? :D

  • @JC-ue2io
    @JC-ue2io 2 місяці тому

    You say mice are much tamer.... you should try my bant blind mice deck. It uses doppelgang so I'm sure you'd like it, plus gaining absurd amounts of life each turn gets hilarious against aggro

  • @jamesgordon364
    @jamesgordon364 2 місяці тому

    I have built a sandstorm harbinger deck!!! It's kinds broken. See what you can do. White blue green. Featuring
    ▪︎Risen reef
    ▪︎Glasspool mimics
    ▪︎Panharmonicon
    ▪︎eleshnorn and doppelgang. If interested I would submit whole deck list.
    I built it for a challenge laid down by my friend but I think it's good. Can you break it. Love the channel

  • @ApatheticallyClowning
    @ApatheticallyClowning 2 місяці тому +1

    If Wizards shortened "enters the battlefield" to "enters", why not "leave the battlefield" to "leaves"?

    • @SlimViMa
      @SlimViMa 2 місяці тому +2

      The only place a permanent can enter is the battlefield but "leaves" can be used for the battlefield, graveyard or exile.

    • @ApatheticallyClowning
      @ApatheticallyClowning 2 місяці тому

      @@SlimViMa makes sense. But I did just look this up on Scryfall, the only time in rules text anything "leaves" is from the battlefield. I could be missing wording.

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 2 місяці тому

      in the meantime, why not turn it into a keyword trigger? kinda like how things have
      Landfall - effect
      we could have
      Enter - effect

  • @LuciferLuckless
    @LuciferLuckless 2 місяці тому

    That greenshell sure is fecund

  • @Atmapalazzo
    @Atmapalazzo 2 місяці тому

    I wouldn't say that Manifold mouse is that essential to Mice. It's your best two drop, but it's not Simulacrum Synth or Waste Not essential.

  • @dankman239
    @dankman239 2 місяці тому

    What are the numbers in the bottom of the cards mean the little orange boxes

    • @LongHairedTeen
      @LongHairedTeen 2 місяці тому +1

      Current number of lands over the number needed for the effect (10).
      Cards that have an effect based on the number of something such as lands in play or card types in graveyard show how far they are to their target.

    • @dankman239
      @dankman239 2 місяці тому

      @@LongHairedTeen ty ty

  • @SublimeSublemon
    @SublimeSublemon 2 місяці тому

    Crue clacking?

  • @LadyMapi
    @LadyMapi 2 місяці тому

    Something that bugs me about the current way Magic's formats are run is that all of the neat draft synergies in each set are kinda dead in the water. You only get to draft a set for a month or two before the next one comes out, there isn't a block-level constructed format anymore, Standard rotating more slowly means that it's harder for new decks to compete against the larger card pool...

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, sadly.
      I've been having moderate success with raccoons in unranked, but in ranked, plat is full of too much oppressive monoblack decks, which it struggles against with all the early removal and discard. But that could also be just playing bo1 because I'm not experienced or confident enough to make a good bo3 deck. And I'm already struggling with wildcards.
      Funnily and vaguely related to this video, the raccoon deck I built uses roaming thrones as a panharmonicon for expend mechanics and for doubling up on innkeeper's wards. The amount of people that try to use removal on Muerra while it has 2 ward 1s, thinking they only have to pay 2, then get hit with 6 ward 1 triggers on the stack instead, then scoop right after. It's pretty funny.

  • @TheVladeha
    @TheVladeha 2 місяці тому

    59:43 CREW CLUCKING

  • @lucksnow9905
    @lucksnow9905 2 місяці тому

    Greenshell is like Nadu, but on xanax

  • @gamesandguitars354
    @gamesandguitars354 2 місяці тому

    That guy will forever be named Shooter McGavin 😂 I don’t know his real name

  • @kuroninjaofshadows
    @kuroninjaofshadows 2 місяці тому

    Why decline the land triggers to make land drop for turn? Am I missing something?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  2 місяці тому +4

      It sometimes matters because Greenshell puts the lands into play tapped. If we haven't made a land drop yet sometimes it's better to decline so we can play the land untapped and use the mana on something.

    • @kuroninjaofshadows
      @kuroninjaofshadows 2 місяці тому

      @@MTGGoldfish Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

  • @blueredlover1060
    @blueredlover1060 2 місяці тому +1

    This deck feels like it wants some buttfight cards.

  • @sheaandrus-oak6546
    @sheaandrus-oak6546 2 місяці тому

    Where are Sept 2nd spoilers plus Sept 3rd spoilers 😢

  • @Laevus2321
    @Laevus2321 2 місяці тому

    Go Turtlemomicon!

  • @seanmild5536
    @seanmild5536 2 місяці тому

    PanharMOMicon

  • @nomadichero12
    @nomadichero12 2 місяці тому

    Blue virtue? Or is that greedy?

  • @travislindsey1507
    @travislindsey1507 Місяць тому

    Why no doppelgang