One important technique you are skipping over for this sort of music, and general 90-00s era electronic music is that producers would regularly sample themselves. They would work around polyphony limits, and limited effects processors by creating sounds, sometimes whole motifs, as they wanted to with their gear, recording them into the sampler, then using the sampler and their effects again to further process the sound, and continuing until they created what they were imagining. Many of those super washy pads and drones are the result of multiple resampling passes
Cheers Craig! 100% on the resampling process - I have another video on a similar technique for the washed out pads via sampling. Nothing like the sound of transposed pads coming out of an old sampler
that would actually be slick! im sure one of the 500 AI services out there could make this happen....I may test this out for fun on a few classic tracks LOL
11:05 that transition is super smooth 👌 My "trick" for that gritty sound is to send the dry source sound to a parallel mixer track with a bitcrusher / sample rate reducer and then a subtle reverb on it. So you can freely choose how much grittyness you want
@@Thought-Forms nothing fancy, I use the free kiloHearts bitcrusher for that (which also has a knob for changing sample rates) but for me it does the trick! For reverbs I like to use Impulse responses from all kinds of hardware units, it takes some digging but you can find nice ones on the web. For modern reverbs, Native Instruments Raum is now free and that sounds really nice on almost anything.
Nothing fancy, I use the free kiloHearts bitcrusher for that (which also has a slider for changing the sample rate), but it does the trick! For reverb I like to use Impulse responses from all kinds of hardware units, it takes some digging but you can find many good ones on the web. For modern reverbs, Native Instruments Raum is now free and that sounds nice on basically everything.
(Had some trouble with posting this comment, hope it doesn't show up multiple times) Nothing fancy, I use the free kiloHearts bitcrusher for that (which also has a slider for changing the sample rate), but it does the trick! For reverb I like to use Impulse responses from all kinds of hardware units, it takes some digging but you can find many good ones on the web. For modern reverbs, Native Instruments Raum is now free and that sounds nice on basically everything.
I've probably said this before, but I have an Alesis Quadraverb GT. I got it because I wanted a hardware multi-effect, has that "sound" you get from old hardware effects, could do some simple sampling, and because it was the cheapest QV I could find. Also, for "authentic" samples of the era, the Internet Archive has a collection of sounds of old sample CDs that no longer exist.
@@Ulukitkan Oddly enough, Zero-G does still sell some of it's old content on it's website, and I encourage people to still support the companies that made those samples by buying said samples if they are available.
@@djshire1984 some of them were removed because of copyright, but yes - you are right. could you name any other old sample cds? I'll try to find them, I love digging through old samples
The GT is solid, I think it's essentially the exact same as the "non GT" - but with a pre-amp slotted in as the first FX on all the configs (which I imagine you could turn off if desired)
Love this channel, I was wondering if you'd ever thought about doing a video on the music from Shenmue? Some of the best tracks (imo) are the ambient ones that aren't even on the OST release, especially 'Free 1'. I've never been able to track down the exact patches, but apparently it was mostly done on a JV-2080, Tr-Rack + Ensoniq MR.
Mate I love Shenmue! Great OST indeed. Will never forget playing the OG on Dreamcast, and renting Shenmue 2 on the OG Xbox....playing all weekend. Never looked into how it was all composed, but will look for sure. Cheers!
you always release a video when i need it, thank you for making all this great content. I love watching it, and it always gets me inspired to start making stuff.
Cool video man, new subscriber! FSOL lifeforms is one of my favourite old albums. Still sounds wicked now, i remember being completely fascinated when i found that album. All the way back in the day on tape cassette. Nice tips too dude thanks 🎉
@@Thought-Forms definitely bro it's amazing. I have a few of their tracks on random playlists. To listen to the whole thing at once is quite the trip! I'm just getting back into working with music, set up a studio and getting used to Ableton when I have time off. Great tips man, keep em coming, and thanks 👍
Just wondering, have you tried out the DSP56300 EMU ? Basically loads the real Virus Ti Cards. Sounds mega for certain genres. Would love to see that make an appearance on your channel someday. Also really enjoying your channel, I used to make music all the time, but as of now I pretty much stick to strickly 90's sample CD's and ilegal samples, so I can't exactly "release" them now :( Whole genres were formed from ilegal samples, such a shame how things have become. :(
Yea! It's pretty much spot on, great emulation. Heard a few others may be coming down the pipe from those dudes too. Would love to see a Supernova emulation. Sample based production is tuff. You can always throw them up on UA-cam or Soundcloud!
bro are you the one who used to be called dj bobby light? I'm searching for this song "glimmer" which was credited to you if so. Do you have it uploaded anywhere? its possibly one fo the best drum and bass songs I ever heard
One important technique you are skipping over for this sort of music, and general 90-00s era electronic music is that producers would regularly sample themselves.
They would work around polyphony limits, and limited effects processors by creating sounds, sometimes whole motifs, as they wanted to with their gear, recording them into the sampler, then using the sampler and their effects again to further process the sound, and continuing until they created what they were imagining. Many of those super washy pads and drones are the result of multiple resampling passes
Cheers Craig! 100% on the resampling process - I have another video on a similar technique for the washed out pads via sampling. Nothing like the sound of transposed pads coming out of an old sampler
this plus a nicely chopped amen .. i could trip to this till november
❤ i like gentler breaks like think, hotpantz and apache.
Am I only one that wishes we could have drumless versions of ambient jungle classics?? 😮
that would actually be slick! im sure one of the 500 AI services out there could make this happen....I may test this out for fun on a few classic tracks LOL
just get reaper or any other daw. load up some rompler plugin, go to the pads section, press some keys 😂
Best tuts man
Yo Cxdy , nice to see you here bro.
much love Cxdy!
11:05 that transition is super smooth 👌 My "trick" for that gritty sound is to send the dry source sound to a parallel mixer track with a bitcrusher / sample rate reducer and then a subtle reverb on it. So you can freely choose how much grittyness you want
Love the tip mate! What are you typically using for a bitcrusher/sample rate reducer? A Tal-DAC or something?
@@Thought-Forms nothing fancy, I use the free kiloHearts bitcrusher for that (which also has a knob for changing sample rates) but for me it does the trick! For reverbs I like to use Impulse responses from all kinds of hardware units, it takes some digging but you can find nice ones on the web. For modern reverbs, Native Instruments Raum is now free and that sounds really nice on almost anything.
Nothing fancy, I use the free kiloHearts bitcrusher for that (which also has a slider for changing the sample rate), but it does the trick! For reverb I like to use Impulse responses from all kinds of hardware units, it takes some digging but you can find many good ones on the web. For modern reverbs, Native Instruments Raum is now free and that sounds nice on basically everything.
(Had some trouble with posting this comment, hope it doesn't show up multiple times)
Nothing fancy, I use the free kiloHearts bitcrusher for that (which also has a slider for changing the sample rate), but it does the trick! For reverb I like to use Impulse responses from all kinds of hardware units, it takes some digging but you can find many good ones on the web. For modern reverbs, Native Instruments Raum is now free and that sounds nice on basically everything.
Thanks 👍
I've probably said this before, but I have an Alesis Quadraverb GT. I got it because I wanted a hardware multi-effect, has that "sound" you get from old hardware effects, could do some simple sampling, and because it was the cheapest QV I could find.
Also, for "authentic" samples of the era, the Internet Archive has a collection of sounds of old sample CDs that no longer exist.
Like Zero-G
@@Ulukitkan Oddly enough, Zero-G does still sell some of it's old content on it's website, and I encourage people to still support the companies that made those samples by buying said samples if they are available.
@@djshire1984 some of them were removed because of copyright, but yes - you are right. could you name any other old sample cds? I'll try to find them, I love digging through old samples
@@Ulukitkan not off the top of my head, but if you watch enough of Thought-Forms, you'll find some great suggestions.
The GT is solid, I think it's essentially the exact same as the "non GT" - but with a pre-amp slotted in as the first FX on all the configs (which I imagine you could turn off if desired)
Love this channel, I was wondering if you'd ever thought about doing a video on the music from Shenmue? Some of the best tracks (imo) are the ambient ones that aren't even on the OST release, especially 'Free 1'. I've never been able to track down the exact patches, but apparently it was mostly done on a JV-2080, Tr-Rack + Ensoniq MR.
Mate I love Shenmue! Great OST indeed. Will never forget playing the OG on Dreamcast, and renting Shenmue 2 on the OG Xbox....playing all weekend. Never looked into how it was all composed, but will look for sure. Cheers!
my favorite genre, thank you for this
lets goooo!
I just learned my slash chords a few days ago, applying them when using my Triton plugin, now everyday can be Dreamcast day 😀👍♥️🌱
you always release a video when i need it, thank you for making all this great content. I love watching it, and it always gets me inspired to start making stuff.
love to hear it mate - that's the ultimate goal! take that spark of inspiration and go get after it 💪
I was studying to Thom Brennan before watching this and had to go check that I had stopped my music, nice job
Fantastic, thanks. Subscribed as I want to go back through your content and see more in 90s. Autechre, Boards of Canada?
The best drops, every time 🎉❤
my dude!
Cool video man, new subscriber! FSOL lifeforms is one of my favourite old albums. Still sounds wicked now, i remember being completely fascinated when i found that album. All the way back in the day on tape cassette.
Nice tips too dude thanks 🎉
Thanks friend! Totally, still blown away when I listen to Lifeforms to this day. Top 5 ambient album hands down
@@Thought-Forms definitely bro it's amazing. I have a few of their tracks on random playlists. To listen to the whole thing at once is quite the trip!
I'm just getting back into working with music, set up a studio and getting used to Ableton when I have time off. Great tips man, keep em coming, and thanks 👍
That's a very good video! The limitations of the equipment of the 90's expands my creativity endlessly.
Just wondering, have you tried out the DSP56300 EMU ? Basically loads the real Virus Ti Cards. Sounds mega for certain genres. Would love to see that make an appearance on your channel someday. Also really enjoying your channel, I used to make music all the time, but as of now I pretty much stick to strickly 90's sample CD's and ilegal samples, so I can't exactly "release" them now :( Whole genres were formed from ilegal samples, such a shame how things have become. :(
Yea! It's pretty much spot on, great emulation. Heard a few others may be coming down the pipe from those dudes too. Would love to see a Supernova emulation. Sample based production is tuff. You can always throw them up on UA-cam or Soundcloud!
Relaxing and Calming musics 🎵🕊 h
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ur channel rocks
thank you mate!
magick
bro are you the one who used to be called dj bobby light? I'm searching for this song "glimmer" which was credited to you if so. Do you have it uploaded anywhere? its possibly one fo the best drum and bass songs I ever heard
that track is long gone mate, sorry :(
@@Thought-Forms it survives on this playlist my friend: ua-cam.com/video/bD7K_XOowq4/v-deo.html
great work anyways :)
beautiful
thanks chris!
@@Thought-Forms thank YOU for your content 🙏🏻
Love
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What's your decay time seconds settings on your reverb?
what daw is that??
bitwig studio
what plugin do you think comes the closer ? I heard Valhalla Vintageverb was great but I didn't click with it
digital systemic giant verb
Goodhertz Megaverb. I can match it to my Midiverb II, which it was based on.
was not a big fan of valhalla either - but have heard great things about Goodhertz Megaverb mentioned by landonh
@@Thought-Forms thanks you all !
Goodhertz Megaverb all day. It nails that Alesis vibe
how to make ambient - play someone elses preset at low notes. SNORE
oh yikes
@@Thought-Forms but also true