Me to. Even though I've always been more of a Fallout person it seems they always put more thought into the Elder Scrolls games so hopefully they put alot of things in Elder Scrolls 6
Lol y’all a bunch of bitter kids, can’t wait till your wrong when elder scrolls 6 does come out. First of all fallout 76 wasn’t a real BGS game. Second of all Todd Howard recently did an interview that people crave more in depth Rpgs these days and that they’re starting to go back to their roots with Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6. Elder Scrolls 6 has been a long time coming you bet it’s going to be the most in depth game BGS will ever make to date. The fact that they made Morrowind shows their capable. And they were only following trends set by the same people who said Morrowind and oblivion was to complicated to get into. But since there’s a way bigger market for hardcore gamers they now have every reason to make a hardcore Rpg again
The golden age of the Chimer? Are any yet living that remember that time? If any still live do they miss their former selves? Only one I think may have lived then is Neloth.
@@sheogoraththedaedricprince9675 Only some of it and I'm glad for that because it means I have more to play of Morrowind! Same with Bloodmoon. I installed a mod to make the expansions playable for low level characters so I'll soon jump right into it.
The Camona Tong are actually a faction responsible for a lot of suffering for a character in my Oblivion campaign. I know the game considers killing the two north of Rugdumph's estate as murders, but I don't feel any sorrow for it.
I'm pretty sure the Shadowscale in front of him would take issue with that... After all, that was *his* Khajiit fur coat stolen from the tavern, last week!
@@GlidingZephyr I like to think the Khajiit and argonians get along and eventually form an empire together, possibly making a Breton type situation in some areas
@@oppionatedindividual8256 I would actually love to see that in ES6. Maybe have it focus on a setting around 150 years after the events of Skyrim. In my vision the Empire is simply Cyrodiil, what was once the Aldmeri Dominion lost all of their Cyrodiilic holdings after a successful Valenwood insurrection, and the three Northernmost provinces are fully independent. Meanwhile, the Khajiit clans and the Kingdom of Argonia have taken over all of Morrowind, almost all of the remaining Dark Elves are either dead or refugees; maybe they're also seeking help from Skyrim and Hammerfell after scouts find Akaviri expeditionary squads at the edge of Black Marsh. Think of what kind of trailer a game like that would have.
@@GlidingZephyr aha yea, I also like the idea of High Rock, Skyrim and Hammerfell forming a northern trade empire or smt too but that would be too much for one timeline
The way I interpret the word “Forester” in the Dunmeri language is in that it’s a euphemism for someone who’s tough and lives outside town. It may also mean something more like “hunter”, since there’s not many trees around Morrowind. Similar to the German word Jaeger, meaning hunter, also being applied to riflemen in the Napoleonic wars
I think the implication is more that it's better to fell a single tree than risk a forest fire. It's definitely only an insinuation that works because there isn't a need for an actual guild of lumberjacks in Morrowind, but I doubt morag is used as a synonym for frontiersman, especially since wastelanders already fit that role
Thank you, guys! We so rarely get any _Morrowind_ lore. There's still much about the game and setting I don't fully understand despite playing it for eighteen years.
I learned a lot reading the books and doing several different playthrus with multiple paths. Although my favorite was stealing every item that wasnt bolted down from every home, selling the loot, buying endgame gear and just smacking dagoth ur to death after "acquiring" keening and sunder. No one knew who i was. After which i went to solstheim and became a werewolf and ate all the people and fauna. Then i went to mournhold and murdered everyone. I was an argonian.
@@ShealaCZ There are two Camonna Tong thugs living in a camp north of Cheydinhal. Uh, Walker Camp, I think. They buy skooma from the Orum Gang in Cheydinhal. Oghash from the Orum Gang does the drug running every Fredas at dawn, so you can just follow her straight there.
@@Cheerybelle i have a mod in morrowind where i join the camonna tong instead of the thieves guild, and wipe out all the argonian and khajiit slaves and thieves guild N'wahs. Have a good day, S'wit!!
@@justinreynolds5557 Wait, why would the Camonna Tong wipe out the slaves? They use slaves quite extensively in their dealings. Why would they destroy their own assets? Or potential assets? Anyway, I use a mod, as well. I bid you a hearty hello from the Twin Lamps! The slaves must all be liberated from their bindings, and the Cammona Tong's souls must be liberated from Mundus!
@compassionate Predator Glad he is gone... Who you ask? Jyggalag! My former self before my former self. Before the hero of Kavatch became me and I he... Before we were we and us. Before we finally started calling ourselves me, myself and I. Before... Wait... What were we talking about again?............ Oh yes the gray march. Thank you Haskill for reminding us of such a dark gray time... Time? Time for cheese. Wait scratch that... No cheese. Not for you anyway... Oh well perhaps just a little. There can still be a celebration if you don't like cheese.
I LOVED playing the Thieves Guild BECAUSE of how their rivalry was framed with the Camonna Tong. Just like how I loved the Morag Tong because of how the Dark Brotherhood were used in Morrowind. The Camonna Tong and the Dark Brotherhood were very creepy interactions when I was a kid and new to the game.
I think that's it's possible after the eruption of red mountain that the comonna tong survived and spread into other provinces with the dunmer refugees, much like how the Chinese triads spread to American with the wave of Chinese immigrants in the late 19th century.
I've always looked at them as a mix of the Chinese triads and the Feudal Japanese yakuza groups. I've always wanted a skeezy bathhouse full of tattooed Dunmer chugging those giant bottles of sujamma with their tanto knives and big cheap katanas along the wall lol
I just hope bethesda will put passion in the project and not dumb it down. It can be made tastefully complex if they actually try to make a game worth it´s price.
5:10 is that a fuck you to the midroll commercial? that was rought "...i still remember hearing her muffled crying ... SERIOUSLY i can get my money back from these discounts?!...."
damn that's amazing, i wanted them to talk about the camonna tong for a while, since there is so little to discover about them on the wiki pages. much love =)
il never forget first finding the khajiit slave with moonsugar packets in her stomach delivery in the underground cave beneath some shack in gnar mok 0_0 i was only trying to steal a dwemer artifact XD
Please please please please please please please do a video on any crime syndicates in Tamriel like the nod to the Elsweyr one in the beginning I really wanna know if there is something similar in Skyrim or Cyrodiil
Camonna Tong also invole with the other guilds like Fighter Guild was corrupted by Camonna Tong and Thieves Guild try to protect themself from Camonna Tong
Could the 'Cammona Tong', be possibly translated as 'The Common Guild'? as it seems like most members would be recruited from commoners mostly who are generally poor to begin with, what do you all think?
Nah, they're the best! Free armor, with super high armor rate for low levels, and so valuable as well. Fuck going to Ebonheart, i want them to keep attacking me forever.
On one hand, it can be annoying. On the other hand, the gear: valuable carved ebony darts, second best vanilla light armor (even more valuable), reliable source of the otherwise rare and treasured Daedric Wakizashis at levels 20-29 (absurdly valuable and excellent shortblades). On the other other hand, can be kind of unbalanced in one direction or the other: kinda difficult at young levels, super exploitable at more competent levels. ... Oh, wait; it's narrowly third best light armor if you count the Snow Wolf set, but the Snow Wolf set is pre-enchanted. You could probably counteract the loss of Armor Rating with Fortify Light Armor or Shield enchantments with points to spare to also gain the Resist Frost effects, too.
@@Cheerybelle When I first played Morrowind and those people showed up, my character probably wet himself under the belief that they were sleep paralysis demons. Except....
@@GlidingZephyr The mask is especially unsettling. I'm, like, a hundred percent certain that there was a creepypasta about the dark brotherhood assassins. ...Yeah, Jvk1166z. Just goes to show the impact of the assassins, I guess.
great vid! hmmm a group that large and long lived...could still be around in the 4th in some small way,not super far fetched... interesting stuff! so much so its nuff for me to go back to skyrim lol
A guy named Varo at the Imperial fort outside Balmora will give you a quest to kill a bunch of Cammona Tong Members in the Council club. Varo is kind of weird because he wants to clean things up in town but he doesn't want to make it official business. Oh yeah he also gets a hit put out on him from the Morag Tong
@@electricc437 Please let it be Azura, please let it be Azura... Oh, thank you Gods! Wait. She's actually a vain narcissist? Damn it. Here. You can have your Star back, now..
Orvas has died many many times at my house so he doesn't make it to the Oblivion Crisis. Even if I am playing another house, I always find an excuse to take a visit to the Dren plantation. I also always take care of the "bad people" at the Balmora Council Club as well as the corrupted members of the Fighter's Guild. The Duke lives unless I want full control of Morrowind. In that case, the King goes, the Duke goes, and Vivec rests in peace (or pieces, your pick).
The Camonna Tong are my least favorite faction of people in Morrowind., bastards won't even let you join them. I never pass up any of the quests that allow me to kill off members of that criminal syndicate and disrupt their business.
Thieves guild: Gangsters Dark brotherhood: Hitmans Morang tong: Ninjas Every college: Edgelords Fudge muppets community: Nerds Which one do you belong?
I have a guess that the Camonna Tong name is self righteous and probably pretty euphemistic, kinda like the Morag Tong. Camonna might mean something like independence, meaning it could be the Independence Guild, as it claims to desire a Morrowind for only the Dunmer.
As soon as I heard “... fingers,” my eyes widened in disbelief. That poor old argonian woman! As soon as I get morrowind, killing every Camonna Tong I find will be one of my top priorities.
It's always fun destroying the Camonna Tong. Morag Tong is better anyway. Also like fighting the dark brotherhood in Morrowind. That black leather armor... And those paralyzing swords...
You wake up, it's dark, the smell of kwarma eggs fills the air. The door begins to open as and big orc walks into the room. "Good morning baby" he says as he crawls into the bed you're chained to. *This is only the beginning*
One could argue that the Hlaalu are prevented from selling Morrowind to the Empire by Orvas Dren rather than Vivec. Then you mention it at 9 minutes haha. This is why organised crime thrives sometimes. They protect the disenfranchised. I've lived in Palermo and currently live very safely above a Triad karaoke bar. As you say he makes a terrible mistake allying with House Dagoth, and that is usually how they end, when they hurt the people they initially helped.
What?! Spoilers! Haha... just kidding. I know, I should finish Morrowind already. With great patience, I am working through my first ever playthrough on Xbox.
cruelest war crime racist elder is nationalist kleptocracy lie propaganda to kill nations. What is nation? Humans born without nationality, born without fascism, nationalization in childhood make them. False value, false enemy, false nation definition make false enemy, destroy value of life. Nationalist kleptocracy created fa, refuse value of life and human rights. Take from society, use not for society, use for golden toilet trash disease, is stealing. Reward for worsening, over reward is kleptocracy support, steal reward system. Not only artificial inflation, kill by stealing safety, cripple to death, non direct kill, they steal money, money they are printed. They not deserved golden toilets. They not have right on other life. They not deserve worship. They did nothing good. They so powerful, they are only enemy to them. They so powerful, they can create legal approved law, law by which they self must be killed. Support nationalist kleptocracy, participate in war crime. Nationalization without nation, mafia nationalist kleptocracy divide humanity by nations to cover war crime, nationalist slavery ownership. Wikipedia false nation definition changed always. Commanders not kill directly, give orders and blame soldiers, soldiers forced to kill, blame generals, walking Milgram experiments. They kill for nations, they not know what nation is, nationalist kleptocracy protector. Not can distinguish between race and nation. What is good, what is bad? Choose between bandits called imperials, bandits called rebels, bandits called bandits. Protect golden toilet trash, create perfect society. Probably, dragon was right, when try kill them all, savior. Farengar not care who give order. Random infinite characters appears from nowhere every few minutes, that give you missions. In real world can kill by stealing safety, economy as weapon. In this world everything can be weapons, books, words, swords, booz. On missions of kill, create, sell, deliver weapon, cutting weapons, alchemy weapon, economy weapon, social weapon, life style weapon? Bring enemy to other enemy, stay and watch weapon. Everything can give missions, statues, books, papers, humans, other animals, places. Read hilterugen campf books, get bunch of missions for killing, must kill. Most dangerous killers are mission givers, books, statues, papers, they kill more than you met for entire life. Courage brave epic heroes not know for what they fighting, hilterugend cannon fodder did it. skyrim, "death is blessing crusade war crime ten commandments", boethian brave glory hilterugend cannon fodder. False nation definition, not can distinguish between race, nation. Why elf count as human? Vampires zombied mutants. They even know that races are property of humans only? Creators racist abilities, make species abilities as racist, races as nations, traditions, rituals, religions. Narcologist barmen. Sobriety is highly overrated, brew taverns everywhere. So much booz, that booz used as money. Nurturing booz for tavern children narcologist barmen, these hilterugend science academy children magically protected from death. Booz everywhere, booz competition, booz conversation, booz school, user became narcotic addicted. If not drink booz, force to sell booz. Almost everyone have booz in pocket. Overpopulation family values. Cannon fodder walking Milgram experiments, children in war zone. How they can build anything with that death rate? Kleptocracy, golden toilet value system. Not just thief guild, stealing ability, lockpicks, it is nationalist kleptocracy lie propaganda. Any click can steal item. Any stealed item magically make you criminal, ruin entire game, everyone and everything magically known that item is stealed. But magic not can protect them from stealing, nobody know about pickpocketing lockpicking protection. Caught known thief not allowed to some actions. Magic doors know that you are thief. Reward for worsening, nationalist kleptocracy reward system. Marauder economy, kill and loot. Traders somehow limited for money, but traders can buy infinite trash just wait for next sell. Ten commandments genocide crusade. Worship pray blessing priest divine cultist temple altar at every step, godless church ten commandments crusade ritualism. Kill for religion of peace crusade ten commandments. Faithless damn empire, faithless damn rebels, faithless damn priests Animal cruelty. Beautiful parts of dead body on walls everywhere. Law. First mission. With 0 crimes they try cut head off. They violate own laws, killing without reason must be punished with killing. They self are criminals. Must choose between 2 mafia, no other ways. Crimes not show easy in not big screen, no messages, guards say nothing, no anything, must search manually for statistic. Crimes even difficult to find in statistics sometimes. Lockpick in first mission cause crime in general stats, no messages, characters silent. In war zone, after innocent marauder corpses, lockpick cell with another corpse is bad, worsening. Helgen create criminals in first few minutes. Judge and kill who attack you is not crime, for example, if try attack hilter for self defence you are criminal, not nationalist kleptocrat. Lockpick chest of dead bandit is crime, but killing and looting is legal. Convoyed prisoners almost always fight for convoy, any enemy to guard is enemy to prisoner. Convoyed prisoners always stuck or die on road. Free prisoner is not crime, killed without crime. Characters usually kill and forget what they did. Steal from bandits is bad, but kill and marauder corpse is innocent. Some character unkillable, undead, but they criminals, by their law must be killed. It is not predictable, no logic, what is crime in that world, must check general stats crime every few seconds. Animated general stats is pain, time and money. No kill, how to kill which have no life? Shoot skeleton is kill, banish dead skeleton, no kill. Non direct chain reaction kill is innocent. Stumble on bucket which kill chicken, no kill. No crime, force to attack you, then kill as self defense. Shoot sparks at kettle, kettle hit chicken, no crime, kettle kill, not user. What next, pull trigger, blame bullet, not shooter? Kleptocrats steal safety, safety kill, blame economy, not nationalist mafia 99% economy thieves? Use mind control spider from solstheim to make killed in battle on your side, no crime. Fernik welcome, no lockpick, no crime, then why any lockpick is crime? Many program errors. Stupid character points ruin game more. Unreadable text, transparent, animated, for part of second. Not only load screen, almost every text unreadable. Not hearable voices, many characters speak at same time, or very silent voice. Pain and annoy. Even exit program is pain.
I mean, they were driven from their homeland and forced to humble themselves in skyrim in the middle of a civil war. Sure they arent slaves but their people are suffering.
What's with the ugly Hlaalu house textures? Why do they all look too dark and damaged? And why is Vvardenfell a forest all of a sudden? Not lore-friendly. MGE XE is all you need for Morrowind anyway.
I try not to be racist toward them but I always find myself remembering all the terrible things from Morrowind and just can't help but take pleasure in their misfortune. Oh, you have to stay in the Gray Quarter? Boo hoo. The Argonians can't even enter the city and they still work harder than you.
@@wishbone346 I would gladly live in a place like the Gray Quarter if it meant I could live comfortably in my own home. If some drunkard is spouting obscenities and slurs while walking through the neighborhood, well, Windhelm probably has open sewers. Just dump your day's worth of "refuse" on him from a third floor balcony. Considering how quickly it would freeze onto his clothes and ruin them, would he really do that again? 😂
@@joceybear303 maybe, but they are uppity elven trash. i'm glad the red mountain wiped out their homeland. both races have done more harm to the world than good.
@@joceybear303 i have. if they aren't following a bunch of narcissistic god-wanna-bes, they are following some pretty malevolent daedra. pelinal had the right idea. both the high elves and the dark elves want the same thing: to return their immortality and rule over what they consider "lesser" races. the only difference is how they go about it. high elves believe mortality to be a curse while dark elves believe it to be a test. other than that, they are same.
I hope the Elder Scrolls 6 has a lot of small factions like this
They won't. Look at Fallout 4 and 76 their most recent games
Me to. Even though I've always been more of a Fallout person it seems they always put more thought into the Elder Scrolls games so hopefully they put alot of things in Elder Scrolls 6
lol they won't even have skills anymore i bet
Elder Scrolls VI: Magik Guld, Fight Guld, Stelth Guld
Lol y’all a bunch of bitter kids, can’t wait till your wrong when elder scrolls 6 does come out. First of all fallout 76 wasn’t a real BGS game. Second of all Todd Howard recently did an interview that people crave more in depth Rpgs these days and that they’re starting to go back to their roots with Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6. Elder Scrolls 6 has been a long time coming you bet it’s going to be the most in depth game BGS will ever make to date. The fact that they made Morrowind shows their capable. And they were only following trends set by the same people who said Morrowind and oblivion was to complicated to get into. But since there’s a way bigger market for hardcore gamers they now have every reason to make a hardcore Rpg again
Last time I was this early the Dunmer were still golden
Old joke not funny didn’t laugh wealth beyond measure outlander
The golden age of the Chimer? Are any yet living that remember that time? If any still live do they miss their former selves? Only one I think may have lived then is Neloth.
@@sheogoraththedaedricprince9675 Divaith Fyr is 4k years old, don't know about Nelpth but I have a hunch he isn't nearly as old.
@@lobstrosity7163 Have you played marrowind tribunal?
@@sheogoraththedaedricprince9675 Only some of it and I'm glad for that because it means I have more to play of Morrowind! Same with Bloodmoon. I installed a mod to make the expansions playable for low level characters so I'll soon jump right into it.
The Camona Tong are actually a faction responsible for a lot of suffering for a character in my Oblivion campaign. I know the game considers killing the two north of Rugdumph's estate as murders, but I don't feel any sorrow for it.
“How do you like my new argonian leather boots and khajiit fur coat outlander?”
I'm pretty sure the Shadowscale in front of him would take issue with that...
After all, that was *his* Khajiit fur coat stolen from the tavern, last week!
@@GlidingZephyr I like to think the Khajiit and argonians get along and eventually form an empire together, possibly making a Breton type situation in some areas
@@oppionatedindividual8256 I would actually love to see that in ES6. Maybe have it focus on a setting around 150 years after the events of Skyrim. In my vision the Empire is simply Cyrodiil, what was once the Aldmeri Dominion lost all of their Cyrodiilic holdings after a successful Valenwood insurrection, and the three Northernmost provinces are fully independent.
Meanwhile, the Khajiit clans and the Kingdom of Argonia have taken over all of Morrowind, almost all of the remaining Dark Elves are either dead or refugees; maybe they're also seeking help from Skyrim and Hammerfell after scouts find Akaviri expeditionary squads at the edge of Black Marsh.
Think of what kind of trailer a game like that would have.
@@GlidingZephyr aha yea, I also like the idea of High Rock, Skyrim and Hammerfell forming a northern trade empire or smt too but that would be too much for one timeline
You need a certain book made from the hides of elves and men by a certain Daedric Lord to match.
The way I interpret the word “Forester” in the Dunmeri language is in that it’s a euphemism for someone who’s tough and lives outside town. It may also mean something more like “hunter”, since there’s not many trees around Morrowind. Similar to the German word Jaeger, meaning hunter, also being applied to riflemen in the Napoleonic wars
Hunting the most dangerous game of all.
I thought it referred to how they would cut people down
I think the implication is more that it's better to fell a single tree than risk a forest fire. It's definitely only an insinuation that works because there isn't a need for an actual guild of lumberjacks in Morrowind, but I doubt morag is used as a synonym for frontiersman, especially since wastelanders already fit that role
Thank you, guys! We so rarely get any _Morrowind_ lore. There's still much about the game and setting I don't fully understand despite playing it for eighteen years.
I learned a lot reading the books and doing several different playthrus with multiple paths. Although my favorite was stealing every item that wasnt bolted down from every home, selling the loot, buying endgame gear and just smacking dagoth ur to death after "acquiring" keening and sunder. No one knew who i was. After which i went to solstheim and became a werewolf and ate all the people and fauna. Then i went to mournhold and murdered everyone. I was an argonian.
I always kill every Camonna Tong I find in my playthroughs of Morrowind and Oblivion.
It's done without remorse. Just like them.
Who are camonna tong in oblivion?
@@ShealaCZ
There are two Camonna Tong thugs living in a camp north of Cheydinhal. Uh, Walker Camp, I think.
They buy skooma from the Orum Gang in Cheydinhal.
Oghash from the Orum Gang does the drug running every Fredas at dawn, so you can just follow her straight there.
I send my adoring fan slaves after them
@@Cheerybelle i have a mod in morrowind where i join the camonna tong instead of the thieves guild, and wipe out all the argonian and khajiit slaves and thieves guild N'wahs. Have a good day, S'wit!!
@@justinreynolds5557
Wait, why would the Camonna Tong wipe out the slaves?
They use slaves quite extensively in their dealings.
Why would they destroy their own assets? Or potential assets?
Anyway, I use a mod, as well.
I bid you a hearty hello from the Twin Lamps!
The slaves must all be liberated from their bindings, and the Cammona Tong's souls must be liberated from Mundus!
Dunmer are never done mer but, ironically these dark elves are very gifted in the dark arts. The puns run as thick as blood.
@compassionate Predator Yes quite quite... I'll skip rope with said entrails. Now it's time for CHEESE! CHEESE FOR EVERYONE!
For a moment I thought Camelworks had taken over xD
@@lttripitz5273 He copied my style HA!
@compassionate Predator HA HA HA! Good times good times indeed.... Or were they dark times... dark.... gray.... boring boring boring times?
@compassionate Predator Glad he is gone... Who you ask? Jyggalag! My former self before my former self. Before the hero of Kavatch became me and I he... Before we were we and us. Before we finally started calling ourselves me, myself and I. Before... Wait... What were we talking about again?............ Oh yes the gray march. Thank you Haskill for reminding us of such a dark gray time... Time? Time for cheese. Wait scratch that... No cheese. Not for you anyway... Oh well perhaps just a little. There can still be a celebration if you don't like cheese.
Currently I’m workin overtime, so I want to thank you guys for helping me get an extra hour of work
Spending that extra hour of overtime watching youtube?
So stoked that you guys still make Morrowind content. Thank you.
just uploaded after I clock out of work. wonderful
I LOVED playing the Thieves Guild BECAUSE of how their rivalry was framed with the Camonna Tong. Just like how I loved the Morag Tong because of how the Dark Brotherhood were used in Morrowind. The Camonna Tong and the Dark Brotherhood were very creepy interactions when I was a kid and new to the game.
I think that's it's possible after the eruption of red mountain that the comonna tong survived and spread into other provinces with the dunmer refugees, much like how the Chinese triads spread to American with the wave of Chinese immigrants in the late 19th century.
I've always looked at them as a mix of the Chinese triads and the Feudal Japanese yakuza groups. I've always wanted a skeezy bathhouse full of tattooed Dunmer chugging those giant bottles of sujamma with their tanto knives and big cheap katanas along the wall lol
the no name syndicate that steals sweet rolls and shoots arrows in people knees
I'm currently running a hand to hand build named "The Fister" :)
Mah fisto beats everyone
Fisting is 300 septims.
Camonna is Dunmeri for "creative solution"
That's even better
TES 6 feels like it's never gonna come sometimes
I just hope bethesda will put passion in the project and not dumb it down. It can be made tastefully complex if they actually try to make a game worth it´s price.
dont worry your grandchildren will get to play it
Maybe they teased it way too soon
It'll come, but the only thing that will work flawlessly at launch will be the ingame shop.
@@soho2409 😂
Im not exactly early, but here I am again watching more Fudgemuppet in quarantine.
About time a bigger Elder Scrolls lore UA-camr covers the Camonna Tong
Last time I was this early, I was wondering why my dwemer friend, I was having tea with, suddenly disappeared.
Nice
5:10 is that a fuck you to the midroll commercial? that was rought "...i still remember hearing her muffled crying ... SERIOUSLY i can get my money back from these discounts?!...."
I just love that he knows everything about elder scrolls lore.
These guys may be taking the "hippity hoppity Argonians are property" meme a bit too far.
damn that's amazing, i wanted them to talk about the camonna tong for a while, since there is so little to discover about them on the wiki pages. much love =)
this has got to be one of your best vids yet, could you do any more gang / crime lore?
Awesome! Just woke up to this
Every video about Morrowind is such a pleasure ❤
il never forget first finding the khajiit slave with moonsugar packets in her stomach delivery in the underground cave beneath some shack in gnar mok 0_0 i was only trying to steal a dwemer artifact XD
Morag Tong missions will always be my favorite through any series
Do mind my asking what's the price of necrophilia in Cyrodill ?
At least 500 gold.
I feel like this might inspire a new character build
Why haven't I heard about them, this is more brutal than Lucien, Molag Balls, or that "the skins of those you love will fly as my banner" remark
That Molag Balls remark made me laugh so hard, I choked.
they mostly appear in morrowind
Awe man that sweet sweet dwemer war axe, and the steel viper blade.
Please please please please please please please do a video on any crime syndicates in Tamriel like the nod to the Elsweyr one in the beginning I really wanna know if there is something similar in Skyrim or Cyrodiil
Or Hammerfell
Camonna Tong & Dagoth Ur: The 6th House will rise again!!!
Nerevarine: Hold my sujamma...
Camonna Tong also invole with the other guilds like Fighter Guild was corrupted by Camonna Tong and Thieves Guild try to protect themself from Camonna Tong
God, I miss Morrowind.
My Orc picks his teeth with Dark Elves spine
Been looking forward to this let’s gooooo
Damn those telepathically linked Imperial Legionaries tracking me down!
Could the 'Cammona Tong', be possibly translated as 'The Common Guild'? as it seems like most members would be recruited from commoners mostly who are generally poor to begin with, what do you all think?
Wrong, the cruelest crime syndicate are the Kinky Leather Fetish Assassins that assault my level 1 Morrowind character everytime i try to rest
@@yannkam2127
That's a sentence I wasn't expecting to read today.
Nah, they're the best! Free armor, with super high armor rate for low levels, and so valuable as well. Fuck going to Ebonheart, i want them to keep attacking me forever.
On one hand, it can be annoying.
On the other hand, the gear: valuable carved ebony darts, second best vanilla light armor (even more valuable), reliable source of the otherwise rare and treasured Daedric Wakizashis at levels 20-29 (absurdly valuable and excellent shortblades).
On the other other hand, can be kind of unbalanced in one direction or the other: kinda difficult at young levels, super exploitable at more competent levels.
...
Oh, wait; it's narrowly third best light armor if you count the Snow Wolf set, but the Snow Wolf set is pre-enchanted.
You could probably counteract the loss of Armor Rating with Fortify Light Armor or Shield enchantments with points to spare to also gain the Resist Frost effects, too.
@@Cheerybelle When I first played Morrowind and those people showed up, my character probably wet himself under the belief that they were sleep paralysis demons. Except....
@@GlidingZephyr
The mask is especially unsettling.
I'm, like, a hundred percent certain that there was a creepypasta about the dark brotherhood assassins.
...Yeah, Jvk1166z.
Just goes to show the impact of the assassins, I guess.
great vid! hmmm a group that large and long lived...could still be around in the 4th in some small way,not super far fetched... interesting stuff! so much so its nuff for me to go back to skyrim lol
Last time i was this early i didnt have to buy skyrim 9 times.
You didn't have to buy it once
@@lmads8023 the true 9000 iq move
A guy named Varo at the Imperial fort outside Balmora will give you a quest to kill a bunch of Cammona Tong Members in the Council club. Varo is kind of weird because he wants to clean things up in town but he doesn't want to make it official business. Oh yeah he also gets a hit put out on him from the Morag Tong
I clicked so FAST, that I made a disturbence in the fabric of space opening a gate to oblivion.
Oh no 🤦♂️ Which daedric prince will invade us poor folk this time?
@@electricc437 Please let it be Azura, please let it be Azura...
Oh, thank you Gods! Wait. She's actually a vain narcissist? Damn it. Here. You can have your Star back, now..
@@GlidingZephyr 😂😂
I remember taking over the Balmora Council Club as part of "taking care" of some bad people.
Varo does tell you a good story about them.
Sounds par for the course for mafias and gangs really, i will never understand how people glorify these things.
Basically the MS-13 of Tamriel
Orvas has died many many times at my house so he doesn't make it to the Oblivion Crisis. Even if I am playing another house, I always find an excuse to take a visit to the Dren plantation. I also always take care of the "bad people" at the Balmora Council Club as well as the corrupted members of the Fighter's Guild. The Duke lives unless I want full control of Morrowind. In that case, the King goes, the Duke goes, and Vivec rests in peace (or pieces, your pick).
The Camonna Tong are my least favorite faction of people in Morrowind., bastards won't even let you join them. I never pass up any of the quests that allow me to kill off members of that criminal syndicate and disrupt their business.
I relly love how tes universe, makes paralelism with real world things, for example, the "n'wah" word is reffering to the "N-word" in english
Shrek can be seen at 0:23 in the middlish bottom left
Thieves guild: Gangsters
Dark brotherhood: Hitmans
Morang tong: Ninjas
Every college: Edgelords
Fudge muppets community: Nerds
Which one do you belong?
bard's college. down with false kings!
I'm a nerdy edgelord.
Nerdy EdgeLord ninja.
Gangsters for that nocturnal body
Asir: Helper
I have a guess that the Camonna Tong name is self righteous and probably pretty euphemistic, kinda like the Morag Tong. Camonna might mean something like independence, meaning it could be the Independence Guild, as it claims to desire a Morrowind for only the Dunmer.
Hm kind of like Bill the Butcher from Gangs of New York
Comonna Tong build!
FudgeMuppet should have a disclaimer that he comes with nuts
i downloaded 2 Cammona Tong mods on Nexus for Morrowind but i always have f*****g bugs and i can't start the mods 😒
dunmer yakuza
dunmerphile... is my take-away from this.
As soon as I heard “... fingers,” my eyes widened in disbelief. That poor old argonian woman! As soon as I get morrowind, killing every Camonna Tong I find will be one of my top priorities.
Nothing is stopping you from getting morrowind. Follow your dreams
@@xidarian My pride prevents that, given that being a vampire screws up the main quest.
@@DarkAdonisVyers How does being a vampire mess up the main quest?
@@DarkAdonisVyersIt's what you get for committing to such a vile dark art and selling your soul to the prince of r*ping
@@raditzhoneyham Well, if Morrowind doesn't want to get saved by me, then it can get ass-raped by Dagoth.
they're called WHAT on a tongue???
It's always fun destroying the Camonna Tong. Morag Tong is better anyway. Also like fighting the dark brotherhood in Morrowind. That black leather armor... And those paralyzing swords...
You wake up, it's dark, the smell of kwarma eggs fills the air. The door begins to open as and big orc walks into the room. "Good morning baby" he says as he crawls into the bed you're chained to.
*This is only the beginning*
... tell me where I can find this
@@scrumptious_bussy1037 pornhub
@@scrumptious_bussy1037 you can find it in ur heart
Not going to lie, at first I thought this was going to be a Dunmeri version of "Hey, you're finally awake." Boy did that change fast.
One could argue that the Hlaalu are prevented from selling Morrowind to the Empire by Orvas Dren rather than Vivec. Then you mention it at 9 minutes haha. This is why organised crime thrives sometimes. They protect the disenfranchised. I've lived in Palermo and currently live very safely above a Triad karaoke bar. As you say he makes a terrible mistake allying with House Dagoth, and that is usually how they end, when they hurt the people they initially helped.
In that case, maybe Morrowind shoulda been sold.
Skyrim for the Nords
Long live the Empire!
@@GlidingZephyr Will see who wins the war😂😂😂
@@G3NZmain I usually joined the Imperials in my Skyrim playthroughs because I cannot stand Ulfric Stormcloak. He is a self-serving hypocrite.
The intro could’ve been, “There are lots of criminals in cyrodil, but none are that cool except for these dunmer🌝”
why tf did i read "cruelest" as "crustiest"?
Dyslexia my friend. Dyslexia.
@@patrickaycock3655 yeah probably
I've never been this early.
I need to get Morrowind for my new computer. My Argonian will have to wipe out the Camonna Tong.
Just like on my old computer.
Who else felt bad for the argonian tailor?
What?! Spoilers! Haha... just kidding.
I know, I should finish Morrowind already. With great patience, I am working through my first ever playthrough on Xbox.
2:15 Keep reading?
cruelest war crime racist elder is nationalist kleptocracy lie propaganda to kill nations.
What is nation?
Humans born without nationality, born without fascism, nationalization in childhood make them.
False value, false enemy, false nation definition make false enemy, destroy value of life.
Nationalist kleptocracy created fa, refuse value of life and human rights.
Take from society, use not for society, use for golden toilet trash disease, is stealing.
Reward for worsening, over reward is kleptocracy support, steal reward system.
Not only artificial inflation, kill by stealing safety, cripple to death, non direct kill, they steal money, money they are printed.
They not deserved golden toilets.
They not have right on other life.
They not deserve worship.
They did nothing good.
They so powerful, they are only enemy to them.
They so powerful, they can create legal approved law, law by which they self must be killed.
Support nationalist kleptocracy, participate in war crime.
Nationalization without nation, mafia nationalist kleptocracy divide humanity by nations to cover war crime, nationalist slavery ownership.
Wikipedia false nation definition changed always.
Commanders not kill directly, give orders and blame soldiers, soldiers forced to kill, blame generals, walking Milgram experiments.
They kill for nations, they not know what nation is, nationalist kleptocracy protector.
Not can distinguish between race and nation.
What is good, what is bad?
Choose between bandits called imperials, bandits called rebels, bandits called bandits.
Protect golden toilet trash, create perfect society.
Probably, dragon was right, when try kill them all, savior.
Farengar not care who give order.
Random infinite characters appears from nowhere every few minutes, that give you missions.
In real world can kill by stealing safety, economy as weapon.
In this world everything can be weapons, books, words, swords, booz.
On missions of kill, create, sell, deliver weapon, cutting weapons, alchemy weapon, economy weapon, social weapon, life style weapon?
Bring enemy to other enemy, stay and watch weapon.
Everything can give missions, statues, books, papers, humans, other animals, places.
Read hilterugen campf books, get bunch of missions for killing, must kill.
Most dangerous killers are mission givers, books, statues, papers, they kill more than you met for entire life.
Courage brave epic heroes not know for what they fighting, hilterugend cannon fodder did it.
skyrim, "death is blessing crusade war crime ten commandments", boethian brave glory hilterugend cannon fodder.
False nation definition, not can distinguish between race, nation.
Why elf count as human?
Vampires zombied mutants.
They even know that races are property of humans only?
Creators racist abilities, make species abilities as racist, races as nations, traditions, rituals, religions.
Narcologist barmen.
Sobriety is highly overrated, brew taverns everywhere.
So much booz, that booz used as money.
Nurturing booz for tavern children narcologist barmen, these hilterugend science academy children magically protected from death.
Booz everywhere, booz competition, booz conversation, booz school, user became narcotic addicted.
If not drink booz, force to sell booz.
Almost everyone have booz in pocket.
Overpopulation family values.
Cannon fodder walking Milgram experiments, children in war zone.
How they can build anything with that death rate?
Kleptocracy, golden toilet value system.
Not just thief guild, stealing ability, lockpicks, it is nationalist kleptocracy lie propaganda.
Any click can steal item.
Any stealed item magically make you criminal, ruin entire game, everyone and everything magically known that item is stealed.
But magic not can protect them from stealing, nobody know about pickpocketing lockpicking protection.
Caught known thief not allowed to some actions.
Magic doors know that you are thief.
Reward for worsening, nationalist kleptocracy reward system.
Marauder economy, kill and loot.
Traders somehow limited for money, but traders can buy infinite trash just wait for next sell.
Ten commandments genocide crusade.
Worship pray blessing priest divine cultist temple altar at every step, godless church ten commandments crusade ritualism.
Kill for religion of peace crusade ten commandments.
Faithless damn empire, faithless damn rebels, faithless damn priests
Animal cruelty.
Beautiful parts of dead body on walls everywhere.
Law.
First mission.
With 0 crimes they try cut head off.
They violate own laws, killing without reason must be punished with killing.
They self are criminals.
Must choose between 2 mafia, no other ways.
Crimes not show easy in not big screen, no messages, guards say nothing, no anything, must search manually for statistic.
Crimes even difficult to find in statistics sometimes.
Lockpick in first mission cause crime in general stats, no messages, characters silent.
In war zone, after innocent marauder corpses, lockpick cell with another corpse is bad, worsening.
Helgen create criminals in first few minutes.
Judge and kill who attack you is not crime, for example, if try attack hilter for self defence you are criminal, not nationalist kleptocrat.
Lockpick chest of dead bandit is crime, but killing and looting is legal.
Convoyed prisoners almost always fight for convoy, any enemy to guard is enemy to prisoner.
Convoyed prisoners always stuck or die on road.
Free prisoner is not crime, killed without crime.
Characters usually kill and forget what they did.
Steal from bandits is bad, but kill and marauder corpse is innocent.
Some character unkillable, undead, but they criminals, by their law must be killed.
It is not predictable, no logic, what is crime in that world, must check general stats crime every few seconds.
Animated general stats is pain, time and money.
No kill, how to kill which have no life?
Shoot skeleton is kill, banish dead skeleton, no kill.
Non direct chain reaction kill is innocent.
Stumble on bucket which kill chicken, no kill.
No crime, force to attack you, then kill as self defense.
Shoot sparks at kettle, kettle hit chicken, no crime, kettle kill, not user.
What next, pull trigger, blame bullet, not shooter?
Kleptocrats steal safety, safety kill, blame economy, not nationalist mafia 99% economy thieves?
Use mind control spider from solstheim to make killed in battle on your side, no crime.
Fernik welcome, no lockpick, no crime, then why any lockpick is crime?
Many program errors.
Stupid character points ruin game more.
Unreadable text, transparent, animated, for part of second.
Not only load screen, almost every text unreadable.
Not hearable voices, many characters speak at same time, or very silent voice.
Pain and annoy.
Even exit program is pain.
They aren't that great I slaughtered the lot of them with just a shock sword.
"Emo guild of edgy assassins." Best quote ever lol
The KKKomona Tong
You sir have won the Kool Kidz Klub reward *The KKKT would like to know your location*
bro im so early holy crap
One day the Dark Elves will pay for their crimes against the Argonians.
I mean, they were driven from their homeland and forced to humble themselves in skyrim in the middle of a civil war. Sure they arent slaves but their people are suffering.
Argonians literally invaded and went all Doomslayer on them.
@@the_corvid97 Meanwhile, in Southern Morrowind:
"That pyramid temple wasn't here, two months ago. Wait. Who's playing the Argonian death whistles?"
@@joceybear303 they're not suffering nearly as much as they deserve
Early gang like this for nothing
Noice
What's with the ugly Hlaalu house textures? Why do they all look too dark and damaged? And why is Vvardenfell a forest all of a sudden? Not lore-friendly. MGE XE is all you need for Morrowind anyway.
Whiteheads but grey
Its the Morrowind KKK
"When you think of crime in the elderscrolls you may think of.."
Redguards..?
despite
being
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@@johnrex7108 you ruined it.
Dunmer are the biggest racists in elderscrolls. Even worse than aldmer
Old comment but there's no good or bad race mate
It's like i always say: The only good Dark Elf, is a dead one.
I try not to be racist toward them but I always find myself remembering all the terrible things from Morrowind and just can't help but take pleasure in their misfortune. Oh, you have to stay in the Gray Quarter? Boo hoo. The Argonians can't even enter the city and they still work harder than you.
@@wishbone346 I would gladly live in a place like the Gray Quarter if it meant I could live comfortably in my own home. If some drunkard is spouting obscenities and slurs while walking through the neighborhood, well, Windhelm probably has open sewers. Just dump your day's worth of "refuse" on him from a third floor balcony.
Considering how quickly it would freeze onto his clothes and ruin them, would he really do that again? 😂
Elf nazis
the dark elves are no different than the high elves. the world of tamriel would be a better place without either of them.
Sure, but the lore of Tamriel would suffer greatly. The dark elves have the best lore and arguably the best game of the series.
@@joceybear303 maybe, but they are uppity elven trash. i'm glad the red mountain wiped out their homeland. both races have done more harm to the world than good.
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 i challenge you to play morrowind before you speak in such a way
Dunmer master race woot woot .
@@joceybear303 i have. if they aren't following a bunch of narcissistic god-wanna-bes, they are following some pretty malevolent daedra. pelinal had the right idea.
both the high elves and the dark elves want the same thing: to return their immortality and rule over what they consider "lesser" races. the only difference is how they go about it. high elves believe mortality to be a curse while dark elves believe it to be a test. other than that, they are same.
"exemplifies the worst aspects of dunmeri culture"
n'wah spotted, get out of morrowind
And I'll take any opportunity to hear more about the dunmer