The Holy Saints of Morrowind - Elder Scrolls Lore
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In our latest Elder Scrolls video we investigate the saints of Morrowind.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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Ah, good to see my old friend Jiub became a noble saint. Good on him.
Sadly hes in the soul cairn
@@unlimitedpower1385 And the quest to collect pages feom his journal.
Jiub
Jiub was such a g, one of the nicest dunmer you meet in Morrowind
Well, not even last night's storm could wake you
Dunmer Saint: *has a soul
Sotha Sil: *IT’S FREE REAL ESTATE*
A priest, a soldier, and a lawyer walk into an enchanter's....they all become meaningless automatons.
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Then they meet Sotha Sil......I'll see myself out...
Saint Jiub also nearly met the Hero of Kvatch, as he died in Kvatch when an oblivion gate opened there.
Now that would be impressive, one Dunmer meeting 3 of the greatest heroes in Tamrielic history.
A Saint so powerful lesser Deadra with avatars are cautious about him and is near to levels of Dagoth Ur before his imprisonment. No wonder the Ideal Masters wanted Dunmer souls, they are sleeping God fetuses?!
Jiub is love. Jiub is life.
"No other race compares to the Dunmer when it come to lore", your damn right FudgeMuppet!
I don't know, Khajit have some awesome stuff, and I would love for it to be really fleshed out in a future title
Khajiit
@@olgadotson2152 The Khajiit haven't (yet) received a game so centered on their origins and culture. And as long as Emil Pagliuaro is in charge of writing at Bugthesda, I hope they don't. He ignored countless chances to flesh out Nords as more than "Scandinavians in TES." I won't even go into FO4's water-thin plot.
Argonions: *am I a joke to you*
The Redguards would like to speak to you...
Can we all just agree that Blessing of Vivec is the greatest soundtrack of all time, thanks
I agree
Ehhhhh... i like Skyrim’s soundtrack better....
road most travelled
Auriels ascension would like a word
@@recemarkou3223 You're absolutely delusional my g
I just found out about the encounter between molag and vivec and ......
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
Hot amirite
Redefines "giving head" eh? >_>
Not the hottest... but hes a top :\
@@DoritoBagWilkins facefuck
Where? Link plz
Morrowind related videos will always make my muppet fudge, you n'whah. Keep it coming
i literally did the saint questline in ESO yesterday
What was???
Fuckkkkk eso
@@crevice5369 why that? It hás a Lot of interesting Lore and "continuation" to Old Lore
It Help us understand some things
4 in the morning and just got off work. Happy to have something to listen to on my way home now.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that,
Can never get enough of Dunmeri lore, thank you guys. :)
76 cliffracers at once for Jiub eh? Sounds like an average trip around Morrowind without using Greater fireball every 2 minutes.
so immolant seems to be a Latin word meaning sacrifice, used most notably by Caesar to describe the druidic rites of Gauls. So Vorys the Immolant means Vorys the Sacrificed. Which did tend to happen to saints. Maybe he tried to bring House Telvanni under the control of the Tribunal and it didn't end well for him. Such a victim would be scorned as a weakling by Telvanni and so he became a forgotten unsavoury saint.
I may be conjugating it incorrectly, I'm a little rusty, but it looks more like immolant in this tense would mean something closer to "one who sacrifices." This saints legacy is probably a lot bloodier than it is tragic
@@skynyrdjesus The joy of these games and the lore being the ability to shape them anyway we want to make our stories. They so knew what they were doing at Bethesda once upon a time before the money rolled in.
Immolation usually means to be burned alive, so, there's that.
@@yojishinkawa378 yes immolation and immolate have survived, immolant never made it into modern English, probably for the better lol.
@@skynyrdjesus
the writing team did a Reddit Q&A where they say he fell out of being worshipped by the time of the late third era for being seen as "unsavoury", so you're probably right with it being bloody. would explain the Telvanni connection too
Love your lore videos guys especially ones that deal with the Dunmer and subjects of a philosophical nature as the lore included into the Elder Scrolls game is extremely detailed and mentally engaging.
I've been waiting for some deep, nuanced lore reporting on the Temple. Thanks for delivering!
"... those boots are argonian leather" 😏✌️
Mfw I see that net worth😳😳😳😳
Outlander
I am glad that you guys always have more ES videos to make.
What a great video! Thanks, Saint Drew.
I love how much you get into Morrowind history. It's pretty great 👍
I just read a bit of old kirkbride lore, its insane. no wonder morrowind has alot of lore
When will you ever run out of elder scroll video idea's.
He's like Nate but lore. He cannot be ended, cannot ever be quenched.
Once the Elder Scrolls 6 comes out he'll never run out
He will stop when he achieves Chim
@Sheogorath you imposter
@Sheogorath If you're the real sheogorath whats my favorite food.
Yesssssss I love this content! Fudgemuppet is goat.
In Elder Scrolls 3 you can actually find a corpse at Kogorun wearing a full set of Ordinator armor and a magical hair shirt. Walk directly north from Sayda Neen.
Wow! Convinient! Just started to play Morrowind, thanks!
I started a new game myself about the time of your comment and found an amazing technique. Install the better graphics mods, the install the boats mod to allow you to actually take the fast travel boats on a scenic tour, then put the fudgemuppet Scrolls playlist on in the background. It's like a guided tour and I turn my music off since they always play those sweet tunes on fudgemuppet vids...It doesn't quite work with autorun due to pathing, but the boats animate fairly well for vanity camera despite some rapid turning on the boat's part...they can even carry lights and other npc's, and also can be seen in transit when not riding...really helps the immersion...
I think a lore video about the wrathstone and kalgrontiid would be cool if you do some Eso lore stuff
Jiub's battle was supposed to be epic; atop a terrified silt strider shooting down those blasted buzzards out to the sky where they were practically engulfing the sun
Such a shame that Sotha Sil's works of reincarnation were all for naught as it drove them to madness.
I have an idea/theory/discussion topic you might be able to make into a video (provided there's any lore evidence to support it):
If the the only difference between aedra and daedra is whether or not they chose to help Lorkhan, it stands to reason that they all have the same biology (or some divine equivalent thereof). So does that mean ojects akin to the Heart of Lorkhan exist, such as the "Heart of Molag Bal" or the "Heart of Auriel"? If so, where might they be found? Could Hermaeus Mora's Heart be found in the depths of Apocrypha's oceans of writhing tentacles? Could Mara's Heart be found in the core of the planet Mara?
One more thing: Lorkhan is the god of mortals, and his Heart seems to give mortals who "use" it a shortcut of sorts to Chim, could the other gods' Hearts give different kinds powers?
Oh, Vivec, bless this thy holy hand grenade!
I'd love to know what all mods were used in the making of this video.
Almalexia would (and did loose her shit) Vivec would probably just flip you off then vanish.
Love the inclusion of Tamriel Rebuilt scenery.
@FudgeMuppet could you make a video explaining about the giant's blood some Nords have?
Horny and daring Nords are the reason most likely!
It's 4:30 just about to sleep then this popped open like pop up book
Of Vorys the Immolant - Immolant is listed as the past participle of immoler, meaning to set oneself on fire; so perhaps he was canonised for setting himself on fire? Maybe he pulled a monster into a lava pit or something?
amazing thing to wake up to.
Immolant means "one that is sacrificed to a higher power" or "one that has been burned alive"
I now feel the urge to join The Tribunal Temple.
now eso's Asylum Sanctorium makes sense! ty drew
There is no amount of subscribers you don’t deserve. I hope you make 1 mil soon.
Hey for your next legacy build can you guys do a molag bal champion build? I know you guys already did one, and i'm not asking for a remaster, i mean using the wintersun mod to create Molag's most devoted follower.
Ah! I had THIS JUST IDEA, curious are the fates of time... I've used Wintersun to start out as an Orcish Warrior that headed to Markarth, and that was tempted by Bal's offer of power over the puny and weak (Fits an orc, eh?), and accept his mace as a reward. I went the Volkihar route, and downloaded the Volkihar Knight Armor set, of which I am now Yamush Ramutto, Death-Knight of Molag Bal, a protector of Serana, and the keeper of the bow of Auriel
Edit: I made him forsake Malacath, in exchange for power and the temptation of immortality
@@olgadotson2152 Damn ever consider making Skyrim builds yourself?
"Welcome back to Fudge Muppet" after about 4 min into the video
Vorys. Voryn. Immolant. Red Mountain.
“Unsavory.”
I always love these videos about the Dunmer. They’re simply such a deep and fascinating race.
Morrowind lore is my favourite kind of lore.
That last one, Voris the Immolent, sounds like a Telvanni escaped slave and immolation is the closest to lynching in the Scrollsverse...just a guess tho...
That theme, that pretty theme
Vorys the Immolant is actually Vore-iss the Insatiable. No wonder he wasn’t revered as much.
you guys should do a morrowind playthrough
Can you make more Skyrim builds I’m in need of some new ones
When are you finishing the Guides to all the Races
Ah yes, Indoril Nerevar, patron state of house... Redoran.
*Distant house Indoril indignance*
St VELOTH!!!
St JIUB!!!
It's crazy how good looking MW has gotten with mods these days. If you told me these shots were a mix of MW and SkyWind i wouldnt be able to tell the difference.
There's a healthy chunk of ESO footage in there too. Regardless of what folks think of the story or gameplay there's no denying they made Vvardenfell and the Clockwork City absolutely stunning.
Your pfp is worthy of sainthood
But FIRST drink chimbucha
I love how pious the Dunmer are. The anti-religion trend in most modern fantasy is getting really old at this point, so it's nice to hear about a culture that actually values their faith.
Elder Scrolls is nice about that in general, and it really is a breath of fresh air. Regardless of if you've got a preference for Aedra or Deadra each race and culture have their own pantheon consisting of unique aspects of both, and it's endlessly interesting to see the differences species-to-species.
It's hard to be an atheist when your gods are literally floating around and guiding your civilisation for centuries. But gods like an atheist, it gives them something to aim at.
@@Ch35h1r3C47 You would be shocked at the number of people who would say that the god standing right in front of them isn't _really_ a god or that they shouldn't be worshiped. Thankfully those people don't usually survive for long.
Funnily enough, In a fantasy series I'm working on, I have the idea of my world's elves being a Theocracy.
@@HoundofOdin What god?
I just want to meet Jiub in Skywind
Move over Almsivi; the greatest of the Dunmer is St. Juib the Eradicator!
Since there are Cliff racers throughout the entire game of Morrowind I wouldn't assume juib is an almsvi saint because neravarine dismantles the tribunal by the end of the game. So either juib was the last ever saint and he also faked the extermination(because there's Cliff racers in endgame Morrowind). Or he's a saint In the religion the dunmer reverted to
Vivec canonically remained around a few years after Morrowind. The nerevar only killed Almalexia.
@@Chapien then why if you play the game long enough to be in the 7th era are the cliffracers are still there? And why does the character denegor have the same political agenda as trump as well as wanting to build a wall to keep the Mexicans out? Therefore emperor Caligulas favorite senator was a horse. (In my game of Morrowind it's the 7th era {completely vanilla, no mods}and theres tonnes of cliff racers.)
@@Xxsnipedawg72xX because the jiub lore wasn't written until skyrim lol. Games aren't magic
@@Chapien I was mostly asking about denegor at this point lmao. Go read his dialog, fuck juib this is a real conspiracy. I noticed it back in 2016 he literally summarizes all of Trump's talking points it's crazy. He's a wood elf
@@Chapien also I secretly wanted you to admire how much time I spent on Morrowind.
These graphics are insane for Morrowind. Is there a way anyone can share me on the information to get my Morrowind to look like that? I would be forever in your debt 💓. I've always wanted to play more Morrowind but I want to get that look in this video. Keep up the good work guys! Elder Scrolls Rules!
just download mge xe and morrowind rebirth and morrowind alive
@@ciaranmck4469 Thank you so much 💓
Now THIS is how you share lore.
Wish you guys would join us in ESO. Story lines and the friendships made are just so amazing. Character building, customization, the areas you can visit. Guys pls just give it a try. We would love seeing the content you would make. Love you guys
As much as I agree I would hope very much that they avoid falling into the horrible void that is the "skittles"; those immersion-breaking heathens who run around on obnoxious and psychedelic mounts, are always clad in the brightest and most disruptive skins, and either wear purely rainbow-hued clothes or stick purely to the bather's towel. Fudgemuppet would have much more fun if they stayed well clear of that sort.
I will follow St. Nerevar until Mundus blows my mind.
6:13 Saint Fargoth?
Is there a list of the mods your using for this footage, or if not where did you get this footage? Trying to mod my morrowind again for another playthrough
I dont know what mods he is using but it looks like a camera mod. He is also getting footage from Skyrim and ESO and TES3.
Ha. You guys remember shoddycast?
What bittersweet memories
Saints Scott,Micheal and Drew,saints of Lore and Scholorly pursuits.
I back this
Didn't the first saint mention a unique item from one of the failed Nerevarines?
Great power always has a price
If you like Skyrim check out www.elderstats.com/ it's an interactive database for fans of The Elder Scrolls games to showcase the characters they've created in-game.
Am I the only one who favourites Vivec over all the gods and other saints?
Yay I'm late! I'll never be early. Lol
The holy shits of my bowls
What morrowind expansion is used for the shots in this video?
think it's tamriel rebuilt. www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42145
St Thomas the patron of Triple-Posters
*Quadruple-Posters
@@michaelinsomanywords3647 it was 3 when I posted, sorry.
For me It's pretty weird when I see holy saint because a saint is already holy so it just feels weird...
well, dagoth ur is technically saint dagoth, and he's pretty unholy. so it sounds weird, but yeah, there are evil/ unholy saints. made even worse in dungeons and dragons where good and evil are more overt distinctions.
@@eddyguizonde401 Thanks for the clarification
I read it as laser saints
Thanks you heckin n'wahs.
Love these morrowind videos bruh.
And now we pray Dagoth Ur 3:16 🙏🏿.
This video is 20 minutes and 20 seconds long... It's 2020 :)
Its 21 seconds though
@@thezerowulf507 No?
Half of these are just 'They were a GREAT mer, and then Sotha Sil got involved.'
I find it hard to have sympathy for the dark elves when it comes to the Argonians
Morrowind is beautiful
An-Xileel dislikes this.
Voris? Boris? Boris the animal🤣🤣🤣🤣 fucking time travel
Saint Dagoth?
Cliff Racers do suck, the best saint by far good man.
Saint jiub is the greatest of the saints
Fudge! Make a video on Oncelostgames! They are ex bethesda devs working on an spiritual sucssesor to daggerfall!
Spiritual Successor = Not actually connected to any of the history and lore we all love about the Elder Scrolls universe.
@@DoritoBagWilkins Of course not. It will be better.
There will be a city the size of london.
@@agent5866 if someone is into a series or universe than making something vaguely similar to it holds no inherent draw. Sure, it could wind up being loved by that person purely based on its own merits but, if I'm someone wanting to play an Elder Scrolls game, handing me a game that's *kind of* like TES is just going to make me want to play TES more.
@@DoritoBagWilkins It's not going to be "Kind of lile TES, it will be way bigger, with way more quests, way bigger cities, and actual RPG mechanics.
@@agent5866 it will not take place within the Elder Scrolls universe. Regardless of game size, gameplay, and mechanics it will be set in its own universe. Therefore, as another fantasy role playing game, it will absolutely be "kind of like the Elder Scrolls". What it seems you're not getting is that, if you offer an Elder Scrolls fan a choice between an Elder Scrolls game and another RPG (regardless of how good it is), they're more than likely going to choose the TES game. Something being a spiritual successor means is that it's still not connected in any way to the setting and lore that the Elder Scrolls fandom love. It doesn't matter if the city is as small as a postage stamp or as big as the state of Alaska.
You know what's funny? Morrowind and Skyrim use the same engine.
Creation Engine is just an improved Gamebryo.
Where the he'll are the outer worlds builds
Makaveli ThaDon it’s hard to make unique builds in that game the way the stats are set up it’s too easy to become powerful early into the game which makes it pointless to have a build and even if you want one stealth in the game just doesn’t work so that’s not an option and any build that involves a gun will become pointless once you pick up a machine gun because they do so much damage same goes for any melee build once you pick a gun or machine gun there’s no point
@@ivory867 its hard to care about making builds in the first place for a game you can beat in about a half hour.
Here I am wanting to start Dragonborn in Skyrim realizing I must meet the greybeards.
I fucked up and broke my playthrough of Morrowind by killing Vivec lol
Just out of curiosity does anyone know what the Dunmer actually consider 'sins'? Just pondering on the worship of the gods of sex, lies, plotting, etc surely these would not be considered sins then - so what would be?
Dunmer culture seems to be very Nietzsche in nature. It’s a society that values strength and power. Not just in a physical sense, but a mental and emotional one too. Your honour is your social standing, it’s something you love to protect. Not always in a “truthful, chivalrous” sorta way like how we see honour, but rather as one’s pride and accomplishments.
An apt example on what I mean would be how the Morag Tong work within Dunmer society. They’re state approved assassins who act as a proxy to kill political rivals. When one member of a house challenges the honour of another, the recipient is marked for death and contracts can be legally put upon that person for assassination. If they are killed within a year then that’s that, but if the person manages to survive and overcome a year’s worth of attempts on their life then their honour is proven and the accuser must leave them be.
It should also be mentioned that morrowind’s great houses are so distinct that you can hardly call them the same culture, and over millennia each have adopted the teachings of the tribunal, daedra, and temple in different ways. House Redoran is probably the closest in how we view sins, in the sense that they are pious, selfless, and truthful, they protect their honour through acts of chivalry and protection of others. Meanwhile the telvanni are stark opposites and see their power and righteousness as their personal ability to wield power over others. They are less of a great house and more of a loose organization of mages who are in constant competition among themselves.
In the end I guess you could say a cardinal sin for a dunmer may just be weakness. The inability to stand up for themselves, for others, or for their own beliefs. If a dunmer has gone back against his own teachings, or could not defeat the one who challenges them, then he is weak and has dishonoured his name.
Should also be mentioned that the lies and plotting were rarely used against someone within their own house. As much as they scheme they focus it on outsiders and rivals, not their family. The dunmer value loyalty to their faith and family above anything else, and to backstab either was one way to get yourself killed
@@t.b.cont. Wow these answers are incredible! Thank you so much - and yes exactly r.e. the Morag Tong
I am so lucky that I learned something About Sotha Sil.
Don't ask what I did with vivec
Molag Bal send me a link
@@ivory867 you're going to have to give me your soul for that.
Can we get some Skyrim vr builds?
Based
The Tribunal were cowards and traitors, and after I killed Dagoth Ur, I killed Vivec and Almalexia and soul trapped them and kept them on my fireplace in Raven Rock. Hail the Webspinner.
You destroyed a projection of Vivec. ESO confirmed that what we interact with in Morrowind is a projection of the Warrior-Saint. Regardless of your edgy acting-out he continued on, even making a mockery of Azura one last time before vanishing into the ether.
@@DoritoBagWilkins N'wah!
aw man I waited this whole video to see what saint the Telvanni Lived by. What a disappointment, but, Am I hardly surprised by such an unfavourable, and immoral bunch.
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