In ESO, I don’t recall where, but there is a flute inscribed “A gift from M’aiq to his son, M’aiq.” I’m convinced that that whole family is just full of M’aiqs who happen to be liars.
@@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k philosophers rarely have children...or at least in our world. some cases it's because they've spent so long studying life itself that they've lost all passion for life and thus, do not wish to create new life.
@@leo-paulgrain3832 I know Schopenhauer did not. But y'know. Pessimism doesn't really like bringing children into the world knowing the amount of suffering that exists
@@SmokeyMountainSuccubus There's actually a pretty well thought out and detailed theory that Maiq is actually lorkhan, so that would literally be the truth, assuming that theory is correct, as Lorkhan was the person that invented the state of CHIM in the first place.
@@xxmrppman69x33 Aight this is gonna sound like some mad shit if you haven't heard any of it, but the whole elder scrolls universe is a dream experienced by an one unconscious being. When you're confronted with the knowledge that you're just part of someone else's dream, you'll mostly likely conclude that you don't exist and vanish from reality entirely. This is known as Zero Summing. However, some people manage to confront this knowledge and state with totally irrational confidence that they exist anyway, and these people essentially become lucid dreamers within the dream making them basically omnipotent. This is what happened to both Vivec and Talos, and it is called achieving Chiim
When I saw Ulfgar the Unending had successfully made it to Sovngarde, I was so happy for him. _Morrowind_ is my favorite game of all time, so I've done his quest a handful of times, but until I played Skyrim, it wasn't 100% clear if he made it, even with the stone showing up.
@@bobcat24 If you're new to _Morrowind_ you have a huge journey and an amazing story ahead of you. I've put in around 18,000 hours over the last twenty-ish years. Trust me, it's an incredible adventure.
Funny thing is, Altmer are the only ones that have canonically bred and trained goblins for war... It must be their goblin nature taking over, mmmmm, cave goblins we are.
Of all these recurring characters, my favorite one to see again was Jiub. I confess that I played Skyrim before Morrowind, but I played Morrowind before the Dragonborn DLC, and it was super cool that they got Jeff Baker. Incidentally, Jeff Baker voices a ghoul in a fallout 3 DLC and it's super recognizable.
I really like Nelacar, most NPCs in later TES games take way too much shit, meanwhile he's like: "I'm a wizard. An old. Elven. Wizard. Think about it." nonchalantly while sipping on a drink
@@CallMeMimi27 yeah but. He lived through the Blight, survived the neravarine, and survived the red mountain throwing a tantrum, he earned the right to that line
It is interesting to think that the Night Mother was willing to appear before and speak to the entire Black Hand because the Dark Brotherhood was in such peril but in skyrim the order is almost completely wiped out and her ONLY caretaker is Cicero and she refuses to speak to him or any of the other remaining members of the guild. If her ghost appeared in the Falkreath sanctuary and actually chewed out Astrid that would have been so interesting to see.
But in Oblivion, Night Mother also says that she didn’t warn the Brotherhood because the Listener was weak (and I think the other members of Black Hand too, hence she decided that they needed a good old fashioned purge). Probably the same happens in Skyrim. Astrid is so obnoxious and thinking herself above Sithis and Night Mother - she decides to punish almost all of them for disobedience and following falsehoods.
Sithis doesn't care for weak - being part of family or not. By extension the same is with Night Mother. Remember her twisted sculpture in Oblivion? It perfectly shows Night Mother essence. Uncaring mother which favour you need to gain.
i think that shadowmere's gender change is one of two things: either a simple oversight by the developers or it was on purpose and a very very very subtle nod as to what shadowmere truly is: a daedra. although my main example is a daedric prince, which i do not think shadowmere is lol, its not unheard of for daedra to change gender. boethiah frequently changes gender. but i've also personally always felt that shadowmere is a daedra and this just adds to my theory
@@TheCodemanc4 that is actually way cooler than my theory. I like the idea of a dremora having to be like "ah shit now i have to be a horse again..." because i don't imagine they particularly like turning into things
@@cheylikespie because they don't, especially to help mortals. You know how much one hated being Summoned by a mortal to go and get a sigil stone? Imagine "I gotta be a sword now, for a mortal who barely knows how to swing one!?"
Could just be two different undead horses raised in different time periods? Would explain the gender change that and the dark brotherhood aren't against necromancy what with the dark guardians
Helseth: I must assassinate the Nerevarine before he becomes they can threaten my power. Some Random Prisoner that got off a boat a few hours ago: God Damn it I haven’t even reached Balmora yet!!! Wait how much is this armor worth? Time to break the early game economy.
You gotta be level 8 or 10 I think before those DB guys attack you when you sleep, and gaining levels in Morrowind aint nowhere as easy as later games, so by that point you've probably already joined several factions and done quite a few quests. You aint no "Random Prisoner" by that point.
@@ZHBraden13 oh man you really got him. He was wrong about a stifled console version nobody plays! Yeah, Shapiro jr., they will attack you from level 1 on PC, the platform everybody else is on.
Neloth didn't bring silt striders to solstheim. They're extinct except for the one in the dragonborn. If you talk to the owner he says he found the last cocoon in a cave
Late but we dont know if there are more. It's likely there not seen due to lack of importance. It's like solitude. It's a lot bigger in lore BUT we dont need a ton of generic npcs for no purpose and waste of space
Frankly the Information on Morrowind in Skyrim is full of so much contradiction that it’s pretty much impossible to take anyone at their word, in the Quest for Bran-Shei we’re told that he’s actually the last living descendant of House Telvanni since the Argonians wiped the house out, but Brelyna in the College of Winterhold claims to be a part of House Telvanni and Neloth claims that House Telvanni is still around. I think it’s best to assume that the Combined destruction of Red Mountain Erupting and the Argonian Invasion was so apocalyptic and devastating that there’s no way to properly take census of what’s still around, perhaps all the Silt Striders died out in one part of Morrowind while in another part they survived.
@@InquisitorThomas I thought Bran-shei was the last heir of the actual family named Telvanni, not the last of the Great House Telvanni. Brelyna's family is Maryon(you can find at least five other members of this family in Morrowind and Oblivion iirc), which is probably an important family in the Great House Telvanni, but isn't the family actually named Telvanni. I could be mistaken, though.
For Mannimarco, that's exactly what happened. He achieved Apotheosis AND remained a mortal necromancer at the same time. Similar to how Talos was probably created by the ending of Daggerfall long after Tiber septim died because the Numidian's destruction caused the warp in the west and Talos worship appeared out of nowhere and it changed from 8 to 9 divines.
I literally just realized that the Dark Elf that greets you in morrowind is the same guy from the soul cairn I avoided talking to.. I'm reinstalling Skyrim. I'm about to help you find those pages man...
Canonically the Nerevarine was still alive in oblivion, just left for atmora. As the Nerevarine is ageless after nelocar makes them drink a potion, it's somewhat safe to assume they are still alive as of skyrim.
It was Akavir that they set sail for, but technically yeah they're good because they got Corprus. Corprus makes you immortal yet ravaged by cancer and madness. The potion just nullified the cancer and insanity, the immortality and boosted physical stats was still there for Big N
You're thinking of Akavir, like the other commenter said. Besides that yeah spot on. Nerevarine *should* be around, but we'll never receive upfront confirmation via confrontation for obvious reasons
@@inspectorjavert9868 Race is still not confirmed, plus if I remember correctly they said that was a script error and Nerevarine still doesn't have a confirmed gender
Divayth Fyr, and Mistress Dratha. Both pop up in Morrowind, and then are also seen 800 years in the past during the events of ESO's Vvardenfell expansion. (I'm pretty sure there are other recurring Telvanni, I don't remember off hand.) Outside of House Telvanni, there's a borderline unique undead example: Volrina Quarra appears as a living NPC in ESO, but reappears as the head of the Quarra Vampire Clan in Morrowind. As with Helseth and Berenzeraih, there was an error. During ESO: Morrowind's beta her race was set to Dunmer, and her voice work was recorded by one of the Dunmer voice actresses, however the original NPC was an Imperial. By the time ESO Morrowind released, her race had been modified, but the NPC still has Dark Elf voicework. (It's also heavily implied that she's already infected and in the process of turning when you encounter her in ESO.)
I’m surprised he wasn’t mentioned, but there is one prominent name you forgot: Divayth Fyr, featured prominently in TES: Morrowind and ESO: Clockwork City.
@DabbingSquidward No, Some characters have beards, like Owyn the Blademaster, and Sheogorath, and potentially the player character themself, from the beard part of the "tone" menu.
@@Vanerov Again, did you forget that I mentioned Owyn the Blademaster? He literally is a citizen of the empire, and he has a beard: www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/scale_small/1/17172/1060089-owyn.jpg
@@darklordthomaspie6293 Not what I meant, why would Sheogorath even be included in the comment? He's a Daedric Prince, of course the Emperor cannot affect Him.
If you decide to spare Archmage of the Guild in Morrowind, Trebonius Artorius, then Ocato sends a letter to name the player character a new Arch-Mage. It makes perfect sense, because Ocato has a rank of Master-Wizard in Oblivion. It isn't mentioned in the game, but he has this rank assigned, so it was very much his business to appoint a new Arch-Mage.
There is another. According to the dog Barbas in your inventory (C.Vile quest in Oblivion) he once was a scamp back it Morrowind. Read that he was suppose to be the famed Creeper before he somehow morphed into becoming Vile's pet dog.
Barbas can change into anything, and more often than not, that "anything" is whatever old Clavicus Vile feels like looking at in a given moment. In Redguard, you meet Clavicus Vile and Barbas and Barbas continuously changes shape.
There is the dragon in Redguard named Nafaalilargus that appeared in ESO for the Elsweyr as Nahfahlaar. I assume the name change has something to do with his service to Tiber Septim, would be rather odd for it to just be a continuity error.
Nafahlaar is his Dovahzul name. After Tiber Seprim conquered Tamriel, he went under his service, and after a while ended up styling himself as Nafalilargus, which is just the Cyrodillic stylization of his name. But ye, same dragon.
19:05 It could also be Elder Scroll's version of Blackrazor from the Dungeons and Dragons adventure "White Plum Mountain". The weapon was described as a two-handed sword that shines like a piece of night sky filled with stars. Its black scabbard is decorated with pieces of cut obsidian.
Umbacano caught a sudden case of the deaths at the end of his Oblivion quest line. Either from trying to betray the Hero of Kvatch or the Hero Betraying him with a fake Ayleid crown.
Volanaro - correct it if I'm wrong, but haven't he died with most of the mages from Bruma's Mages Guild during Oblivion Mage Guild Questline? I though that only a certain Khajit survived the onslaught
Yes you are right. That was Volanaro's fellow prankster buddy J'skar who is the only survivor and moves permeantly into the Arcane University's "lobby" you might call it.
Idk why I'm getting this recommended now but I'm glad. You're lore videos are way better than the other big ES channels like camel works and them. Keep doing what your doing you'll get there
I feel like umbra might've been inspired by the one ring, from the middle earth series/lord of the rings. It's backstory has many parallels if you think about it-a magical weapon, created by a diety that used part of their soul in its crafting. The artifact being irresistable to mortals, with a mind of its own and driving all users but its creator insane.
M'aiq has the solution is in essence, there is a short quest early on that takes you to some plane of oblivion. In a cave? Possibly something to do with a chest. Its been a very long time. You find a dagger in this area, with a note saying "From M'aiq to his son, M'aiq. "
"The Daedra are evil." _Proceeds to turn a Daedric artifact that rejects the souls of intelligent beings into one that consumes and imprisons them in the dread plane of the Soul Cairn under the iron rule of the Ideal Masters_
Sheogorath: you...mortal....why do you trespass in my domain...why!! Do you step apon the madness that is my mania!! Me: I just Sheogorath: wrong awnser...or maybe its the right one. Its often hard to tell when your as mad as I. So before I punish you let's talk about the finer points.....my little mortal. Me: can I just go i font even know how I got here Sheogorath: most don't although most cant even speak. They usually ramble like true madman. Oh and about your punishment I was thinking of turning you into cheese.....NO a fork......A FORK MADE OF CHEESE!!!!
I have a theory about why some call Shadowmere a him, and others a her: Shadowmere is a Gelding. That means, Lucian thought Shadowmere was a mare because he saw no balls. However, Astrid examined the horse further, and determined: "Oh, it's a him, he's just a gelding."
For unclear reasons, wizards have a much longer life span than their race is normally capable of. This is across the board. Only mage elves live more than a few hundred years. Only mage humans live past their 80's. With necromancy or vampirism, you can extend your life indefinitely.
Awesome video sir! I really appreciate seeing the ties from characters throughout the series. Its one of the reasons I love the Elder Scrolls so much. Thanks for going back even farther than Morrowind for some of them. 👍
"Meridia may speak fair to mortals when she wishes to use them or command their obedience, but here in Cyrodiil we remember her for what she was: a patron and mentor to the Heartland High Elves, and complicit in the bondage and oppression of as much of humanity as the Ayleids could enslave. Her honeyed words hide devious purposes. Heed instead the words of the Covenants, and trust not in the promises of Daedra!" - Primate Artorius Ponticus, Akatosh Chantry
Even the "good" Daedra do bad things, and hey sometimes the "bad" Daedra do good things, the common thread is that they do what best serves them and their aims, some Daedra just have aims that favour mortals more and others less. Azura didn't facilitate the events of Morrowind out of the goodness of her heart. She claims she wanted to help the Dunmer, but she also sought the death of Vivec. Vivec's loss of powers/death/disappearance leads directly to Red Mountain erupting which certainly goes against her stated aim of helping the Dunmer. More likely she just wanted to punish the Tribunal for their betrayal of her and Nerevar, damn the consequences. Meridia doesn't understand nuances, she is the lady of light, she burns away all who doesn't follow her rules if at all possible. She tends to punish evildoers but only because some evildoers like necromancy, vampirism and the like. She doesn't actually care about suffering of mortals or anything like that. Hircine cares about the hunt and its aspects, he likes the hunter, the hunted and all who take part in the hunt. He doesn't lift a finger to do anything but make the hunt interesting, sometimes that means helping the little guy (the prey) and sometimes it means creating a little guy (creating prey), we may consider the first good and the second bad, Hircine doesn't care. Hircine also created Lycanthropy which is a disease considered an evil to most mortals. Malacath is gets the closest to good in his protection of outcasts, but he is so restrictive in his protection and in his rules that arguably he actually creates outcasts. Some Orsimer believe Malacath is a lie even, a fiction of Boethia meant to keep them from following their true god of Trinimac. Either way it's possible Malacath actually helps keep the Orcs in their outcast status because of his own desires and that he might not be helping them. As for the other Daedra there are lots of times where even the outright evil Daedra will help cause some "good" event on Nirn because it helps that Daedra win a personal battle. The Daedra are all about self interest, it just happens at times that Daedric self interest aligns with what is best for mortals.
You know, I bet Blackrazor is also an Homage to Stormbringer. Blackrazor is a sentient greatsword from Dungeons and Dragons whose sole purpose is to consume the souls of the living. It is also immensely powerful, and often serves as a patron for Hexblade Warlocks who seek the sword's power. And yes, Blackrazor is a void-black greatsword.
Oh, boy, here we go! I'm gonna watch ALL of it! Been waiting for a lore video like this for so long, but no chance I'd have the energy to make it myself. 😂
my character since Daggerfall is the same Altmer character with the same name, appearance and even more or less the same skills. Lore-wise it checks out, since Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion aren't very far apart, and Altmer live very long lives so even the 200 year gap between Oblivion and Skyrim just means he got gray hair. There is some conflicting info though, in in-game books, Elves are said to live up to a 1000 years, although few of them actually did due to disease and violence, and yet Barenziah lived to be 430 and was considered "old". Divayth Fyr is said to be 4000 years old but it's heavily implied he prolonged his life either through magic, Corprus disease or both. Then you have an ESO Q&A which contradicts all of this, saying Elves live "two to three times longer than men".
Isn't barenziah added in tribunal, not bloodmoon? Edit: okay, the text at the start of her bit says bloodmoon but you do say tribunal later, but it sounds like when editing you may have clipped part of the beginning of her section off a bit?
Honestly the actor they got for Uriel from Daggerfall looks like what I would imagine a real life Haskill from the Shivering Isles dlc for Oblivion to look like.
This makes Morrwind's fate a little better for me! I was pretty sad thinking that the only survivors from my playthrough were myself, Vivec, and Divath Fyr (who turns up dead in a book later)...
But Shadowmere is immortal. S/he respawns in three days iirc if s/he's killed. Or it could be that some angry Daedra are angrily looking around for another horse to slap the title of Shadowmere onto. 😂
makes you wonder wtf happens to the dragonborn, hope dude doesn't go mad, wonder if dragons are immune to hermeus' passive skill of giving his followers madness in knowledge... a little madness is okay tho. snickering here and there, kinda like The Comedian, making fun of everyone and everything's futility but still strives to overcome it regardless, like a big ass hypocrite lol. a powerful dragon hypocrite
Tullius would be an interesting one but I think to cover the whole civil war thing, both Tullius and Ulfric will be dead. Tullius was the only competent leader in all of Skyrim, the rest all had massive flaws and should never have been in any position of power; it would be interesting to see if he became emperor since presumable the Dragonborn didn't.
All 3 of them deserve to roast in oblivion for eternity. They made the tribunal, they tried to be gods and they killed Nerevar. Not to mention the fall of Baar Dau triggering the eruption of Red mountain and the resulting destruction of Vaardenfell.
13:16 - Worth noting that this statement about Black Soul Gems is partially incorrect; only souls that are specifically offered up to the Ideal Masters are sent to the Soul Cairn, not just any soul trapped in a black soul gem.
the Ideal Masters are from Battlespire which started as an expansion for Daggerfall and got spun off into its own game. The Soul Cairn is also in Battlespire, but that location is WAY different in that game.
In ESO, I don’t recall where, but there is a flute inscribed “A gift from M’aiq to his son, M’aiq.” I’m convinced that that whole family is just full of M’aiqs who happen to be liars.
Perhaps they are a family of philosophers?
@@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k philosophers rarely have children...or at least in our world.
some cases it's because they've spent so long studying life itself that they've lost all passion for life and thus, do not wish to create new life.
@@thevashfan12392 I don't know for greek philosopher 2000 years ago but most philosopher of the couple last centuries have children.
@@leo-paulgrain3832 I know Schopenhauer did not. But y'know. Pessimism doesn't really like bringing children into the world knowing the amount of suffering that exists
Or perhaps the inscription itself is just another lie from M'aiq??
I like to believe the theory that maiq actually just drank all the skooma possible until he transcended godhood like talos
Lord of speed
Tripped balls so hard he achieved Chiim
@@SmokeyMountainSuccubus There's actually a pretty well thought out and detailed theory that Maiq is actually lorkhan, so that would literally be the truth, assuming that theory is correct, as Lorkhan was the person that invented the state of CHIM in the first place.
@@SmokeyMountainSuccubus if chiim is elder scrolls lore educate me nwah
@@xxmrppman69x33 Aight this is gonna sound like some mad shit if you haven't heard any of it, but the whole elder scrolls universe is a dream experienced by an one unconscious being. When you're confronted with the knowledge that you're just part of someone else's dream, you'll mostly likely conclude that you don't exist and vanish from reality entirely. This is known as Zero Summing. However, some people manage to confront this knowledge and state with totally irrational confidence that they exist anyway, and these people essentially become lucid dreamers within the dream making them basically omnipotent. This is what happened to both Vivec and Talos, and it is called achieving Chiim
I think Jiub is proof that everyone just got clearer lungs after moving away from Morrowind.
It sort of made sense that everyone living near Red Mountain sounded like they smoked 12 packs a day lmao
I mean witouth a gas mask that the dwemer could make you'd get similar results.
It was all that volcanic ash cuh 😂
If a Dunmers name isn't Jiub, they're irrelevant to me 😂 He's the OG.
I really liked Morrowind's chain-smoker voice for dunmers, missed them in next games. The Dunmer never felt the same.
@@AxOfTheHorde was unique for sure
When I saw Ulfgar the Unending had successfully made it to Sovngarde, I was so happy for him. _Morrowind_ is my favorite game of all time, so I've done his quest a handful of times, but until I played Skyrim, it wasn't 100% clear if he made it, even with the stone showing up.
Thanks for the ♥!
Oblivion is my favorite game of all time and when I saw HoK I cried.
While I’m still on level 1 in Morrowind, reading your comment gives me more joy than what I understand.
@@bobcat24 If you're new to _Morrowind_ you have a huge journey and an amazing story ahead of you. I've put in around 18,000 hours over the last twenty-ish years. Trust me, it's an incredible adventure.
You have to kill Umbacano if you get all the Ayleid statues and do his mission.
Altmer really had a thing for caves at one point in their lives
Literally
A rebellious phase
mmmmm all this natural musk
Funny thing is, Altmer are the only ones that have canonically bred and trained goblins for war... It must be their goblin nature taking over, mmmmm, cave goblins we are.
@@Lunam_D._Roger nah man the nords pushed the elves into the mountains that's what happened to the dwemer
Of all these recurring characters, my favorite one to see again was Jiub. I confess that I played Skyrim before Morrowind, but I played Morrowind before the Dragonborn DLC, and it was super cool that they got Jeff Baker.
Incidentally, Jeff Baker voices a ghoul in a fallout 3 DLC and it's super recognizable.
I thought jiub was indawnguard
@@danielshore1457 Maybe he was, I forget.
@@iammaxhailme - He was in Dawnguard DLC.
@@danielshore1457 yea he was in the soul cairn
Wait what ghoul does he play
Uderfrykte actually comes from Norwegian 'udyr' meaning un-animal or monster, and 'frykte' meaning to fear. Uderfrykte = monster-to-be-feared
Amazing!!!
or league of legends
@@WASZCZI-WASZCZI get that shit away from here
I really like Nelacar, most NPCs in later TES games take way too much shit, meanwhile he's like:
"I'm a wizard. An old. Elven. Wizard. Think about it." nonchalantly while sipping on a drink
He only says that because of the failed intimidation attempt. All characters will tell you to pound sand if you fail an intimidation attempt.
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@@CallMeMimi27 yeah but. He lived through the Blight, survived the neravarine, and survived the red mountain throwing a tantrum, he earned the right to that line
@@lucicade42 nobody cares
@@cjdziesiuta1995 if you mean to say he's the only one capable of backing up his threats then I agree.
I like how everyone in Morrowind has a BMI of like 7
Well there was a giant volcano that exploded and that’s sure to kill a large majority of their food.
Thats what a diet of kwama eggs, ash yam and muck sponge does to you.
That really only applies to the elven races. All the other races are fine.
Except yagram
can't wait for obese characters in elder scrolls 6, the sweet roll factory.
It is interesting to think that the Night Mother was willing to appear before and speak to the entire Black Hand because the Dark Brotherhood was in such peril but in skyrim the order is almost completely wiped out and her ONLY caretaker is Cicero and she refuses to speak to him or any of the other remaining members of the guild. If her ghost appeared in the Falkreath sanctuary and actually chewed out Astrid that would have been so interesting to see.
She is unpredictable and also dont like bootlickers I think.
potentially that was due to here not being in her resting place in... Cheydihal ... the fuck are you meant to spell that city?
But in Oblivion, Night Mother also says that she didn’t warn the Brotherhood because the Listener was weak (and I think the other members of Black Hand too, hence she decided that they needed a good old fashioned purge). Probably the same happens in Skyrim. Astrid is so obnoxious and thinking herself above Sithis and Night Mother - she decides to punish almost all of them for disobedience and following falsehoods.
Sithis doesn't care for weak - being part of family or not. By extension the same is with Night Mother. Remember her twisted sculpture in Oblivion? It perfectly shows Night Mother essence. Uncaring mother which favour you need to gain.
@@Bergen98 plus Astrid breaks all five tenants. A full purge is at hand.
i think that shadowmere's gender change is one of two things: either a simple oversight by the developers or it was on purpose and a very very very subtle nod as to what shadowmere truly is: a daedra. although my main example is a daedric prince, which i do not think shadowmere is lol, its not unheard of for daedra to change gender. boethiah frequently changes gender. but i've also personally always felt that shadowmere is a daedra and this just adds to my theory
I always assumed that it is a Dremora in the shape of a horse, like how the bound weapons are dremora souls in the shape of weapons.
@@TheCodemanc4 that is actually way cooler than my theory. I like the idea of a dremora having to be like "ah shit now i have to be a horse again..." because i don't imagine they particularly like turning into things
@@cheylikespie because they don't, especially to help mortals. You know how much one hated being Summoned by a mortal to go and get a sigil stone? Imagine "I gotta be a sword now, for a mortal who barely knows how to swing one!?"
Could just be two different undead horses raised in different time periods? Would explain the gender change that and the dark brotherhood aren't against necromancy what with the dark guardians
I just always assumed that Shadowmere is not a normal horse but like a spirit or something similar to that
Helseth: I must assassinate the Nerevarine before he becomes they can threaten my power.
Some Random Prisoner that got off a boat a few hours ago: God Damn it I haven’t even reached Balmora yet!!! Wait how much is this armor worth? Time to break the early game economy.
You gotta be level 8 or 10 I think before those DB guys attack you when you sleep, and gaining levels in Morrowind aint nowhere as easy as later games, so by that point you've probably already joined several factions and done quite a few quests. You aint no "Random Prisoner" by that point.
@@ZHBraden13 This is false, the attack can happen at any level.
@@33link333 Not entirely true, on console, it waits until your lv6+. " In the Xbox version, you will only be attacked after you have reached level 6."
@@ZHBraden13 oh man you really got him. He was wrong about a stifled console version nobody plays! Yeah, Shapiro jr., they will attack you from level 1 on PC, the platform everybody else is on.
@@ksquidplaysminecraftHow old are you, 10? The thousands of 4-5 star reviews on the console Marketplace for Morrowind tell otherwise genius.
"and the two engaged in *mortal* combat" *two people swinging a weapon the same way over and over while looking at each other*
Yeah... combat wasn't one of Morrowind's strong points lol. Hope they make good combat in ES6.
Jiub can be found in Kvatch. His head is in a partially burnt down home right as you enter the city.
Yes. That’s why he showed a picture of his severed head during the dremora’s speech
No, thaw was not Jiub. It's just model of head another dunmer
But he died in Kvatch, that's how he got sent to the Soul Cairn @@apelsinplay9478
@@StarborneSybil there can be more than one dark elf per city. The head is used in more than one buildinng btw
@@timyuusis3372 still, he did say he died in Kvatch
Neloth didn't bring silt striders to solstheim. They're extinct except for the one in the dragonborn. If you talk to the owner he says he found the last cocoon in a cave
In the dragonborn DLC he says that he was the one who originally brought Siltstriders from the mainland to Solstheim
Late but we dont know if there are more. It's likely there not seen due to lack of importance. It's like solitude. It's a lot bigger in lore BUT we dont need a ton of generic npcs for no purpose and waste of space
Frankly the Information on Morrowind in Skyrim is full of so much contradiction that it’s pretty much impossible to take anyone at their word, in the Quest for Bran-Shei we’re told that he’s actually the last living descendant of House Telvanni since the Argonians wiped the house out, but Brelyna in the College of Winterhold claims to be a part of House Telvanni and Neloth claims that House Telvanni is still around. I think it’s best to assume that the Combined destruction of Red Mountain Erupting and the Argonian Invasion was so apocalyptic and devastating that there’s no way to properly take census of what’s still around, perhaps all the Silt Striders died out in one part of Morrowind while in another part they survived.
@@InquisitorThomas I thought Bran-shei was the last heir of the actual family named Telvanni, not the last of the Great House Telvanni. Brelyna's family is Maryon(you can find at least five other members of this family in Morrowind and Oblivion iirc), which is probably an important family in the Great House Telvanni, but isn't the family actually named Telvanni. I could be mistaken, though.
No actually. They’re not extinct besides the one on the island. There’s still more but they’re incredibly rare.
For Mannimarco, that's exactly what happened. He achieved Apotheosis AND remained a mortal necromancer at the same time. Similar to how Talos was probably created by the ending of Daggerfall long after Tiber septim died because the Numidian's destruction caused the warp in the west and Talos worship appeared out of nowhere and it changed from 8 to 9 divines.
Man when I found sinderions skeleton in black reach I felt awful
Uriel was in Morrowind. He gives you a coin at the end of the game
That’s Tiber Septim
No that was Wulf/Talos.
He was in daggerfall, sending you on the quest
I always saw that as Uriel
I am sure that was Talos
References to Legacy of Kain, references to Elric, the Elder Scrolls hits up all my favorite things.
Kain Victus!
8:45
"The only way to reach the nordic paradise was to die an honorable death."
*Arm flailing intensifies*
When Shadowmere rose up from the pool I was screaming in excitement. That entrance was FANTASTIC!
Agree
I literally just realized that the Dark Elf that greets you in morrowind is the same guy from the soul cairn I avoided talking to.. I'm reinstalling Skyrim. I'm about to help you find those pages man...
Remember to sell it. The book will not bring him fame when you keep it as a memento.
Canonically the Nerevarine was still alive in oblivion, just left for atmora. As the Nerevarine is ageless after nelocar makes them drink a potion, it's somewhat safe to assume they are still alive as of skyrim.
It was Akavir that they set sail for, but technically yeah they're good because they got Corprus. Corprus makes you immortal yet ravaged by cancer and madness. The potion just nullified the cancer and insanity, the immortality and boosted physical stats was still there for Big N
You're thinking of Akavir, like the other commenter said. Besides that yeah spot on. Nerevarine *should* be around, but we'll never receive upfront confirmation via confrontation for obvious reasons
Akavir*
Divath Fyr*
@@Stryker1297 They could easily do it after all they've already given them a canon gender.
@@inspectorjavert9868 Race is still not confirmed, plus if I remember correctly they said that was a script error and Nerevarine still doesn't have a confirmed gender
When your life is so long that you miners job annoys you and you become a Wizard instead.
Divayth Fyr, and Mistress Dratha. Both pop up in Morrowind, and then are also seen 800 years in the past during the events of ESO's Vvardenfell expansion. (I'm pretty sure there are other recurring Telvanni, I don't remember off hand.)
Outside of House Telvanni, there's a borderline unique undead example: Volrina Quarra appears as a living NPC in ESO, but reappears as the head of the Quarra Vampire Clan in Morrowind. As with Helseth and Berenzeraih, there was an error. During ESO: Morrowind's beta her race was set to Dunmer, and her voice work was recorded by one of the Dunmer voice actresses, however the original NPC was an Imperial. By the time ESO Morrowind released, her race had been modified, but the NPC still has Dark Elf voicework. (It's also heavily implied that she's already infected and in the process of turning when you encounter her in ESO.)
Late but, Gothren also appears, although he is just a Magister and not the Arch-Magister. Yet.
Sinderion is that one character I wanted to stay alive just so we didn’t need to do that quest in Blackreach
I’m surprised he wasn’t mentioned, but there is one prominent name you forgot: Divayth Fyr, featured prominently in TES: Morrowind and ESO: Clockwork City.
It's not canon
@@whiteasian4990 Incorrect. According to both Zenimax and Bethesda game studios loremasters currently in office, ESO is officially canon material.
@@Lunam_D._Roger Not to mention in Morrowind everyone knows Divayth Fyr as already Ancient and powerful, even when compared to the Telvanni Masters.
@@Lunam_D._Roger Sources for that?
@@whiteasian4990 Sources for that?
I miss Uriel Septim's beard. He shaved it off in Oblivion.
@DabbingSquidward No, Some characters have beards, like Owyn the Blademaster, and Sheogorath, and potentially the player character themself, from the beard part of the "tone" menu.
@@darklordthomaspie6293 How would the Emperor outlawing beards affect Sheogorath? XD
@@Vanerov Again, did you forget that I mentioned Owyn the Blademaster? He literally is a citizen of the empire, and he has a beard:
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@@darklordthomaspie6293 Not what I meant, why would Sheogorath even be included in the comment? He's a Daedric Prince, of course the Emperor cannot affect Him.
His beard has been burned by Oblivion flames :D
How bout’ Haskill? He was in oblivion, eso and that card game thing.
Lgeneds? Everyone was there basicaly.
EVERYONE was in Legends. Even the Dremora that threatens to do unspeakable things to your corpse in Morrowind....but at least he's gentle ;)
@@TheVeryAngryShrimp so was the lich from miscarcand, the random dude who took argonians from morrowind etx.
@@TheVeryAngryShrimp ah yes the dremora who said he would rape my corpse, but will be gentle.
5:42 “Vulgar Skeleton” had me fucking crying, I’m going to correctly refer to all skeletons as vulgar from now on.
Sinderion finds a whole underground settlement with a crazy ass glowing orb that sends a dragon but only cares about the red plants?😂
Yes, because he is an alchemist, not a historian.
@@Mysticpaw but theres a big glowing orb that sends a dragon.... that seems pretty study worthy
@@simplekid4328 He doesnt know about the dragon. You can summon the dragon by shoutibg at the orb. Sinderion cannot use shouts.
@@Mysticpaw true.... fair enough. I still think the orb is more worth looking into than some red plant
@@simplekid4328 Yeah it is, but like I said, he is an alchemist. Historian and/or mage would be more interested of the orb.
If you decide to spare Archmage of the Guild in Morrowind, Trebonius Artorius, then Ocato sends a letter to name the player character a new Arch-Mage. It makes perfect sense, because Ocato has a rank of Master-Wizard in Oblivion. It isn't mentioned in the game, but he has this rank assigned, so it was very much his business to appoint a new Arch-Mage.
There is another. According to the dog Barbas in your inventory (C.Vile quest in Oblivion) he once was a scamp back it Morrowind. Read that he was suppose to be the famed Creeper before he somehow morphed into becoming Vile's pet dog.
Barbas can change into anything, and more often than not, that "anything" is whatever old Clavicus Vile feels like looking at in a given moment.
In Redguard, you meet Clavicus Vile and Barbas and Barbas continuously changes shape.
By the way, if you get the creation club thing in Skyrim, Umbra returns and possesses a warrior in full Ebony armor
There is the dragon in Redguard named Nafaalilargus that appeared in ESO for the Elsweyr as Nahfahlaar. I assume the name change has something to do with his service to Tiber Septim, would be rather odd for it to just be a continuity error.
Nafahlaar is his Dovahzul name. After Tiber Seprim conquered Tamriel, he went under his service, and after a while ended up styling himself as Nafalilargus, which is just the Cyrodillic stylization of his name. But ye, same dragon.
Cicero's actor is the best though xD
"EXPLAAAAIIaaIIIIAaaaaaNNNN your SSSEEELLLFFFFF!"
19:05 It could also be Elder Scroll's version of Blackrazor from the Dungeons and Dragons adventure "White Plum Mountain". The weapon was described as a two-handed sword that shines like a piece of night sky filled with stars. Its black scabbard is decorated with pieces of cut obsidian.
This was great, Dash. It may be a long wait for 6, but I look forward to seeing you play it.
Thanks mate, I will love to in 2027 :P
Umbacano caught a sudden case of the deaths at the end of his Oblivion quest line. Either from trying to betray the Hero of Kvatch or the Hero Betraying him with a fake Ayleid crown.
Volanaro - correct it if I'm wrong, but haven't he died with most of the mages from Bruma's Mages Guild during Oblivion Mage Guild Questline?
I though that only a certain Khajit survived the onslaught
Yeah you are right
Yes you are right. That was Volanaro's fellow prankster buddy J'skar who is the only survivor and moves permeantly into the Arcane University's "lobby" you might call it.
Let’s be honest, there would have been riots if Jiub wasn’t done by tes3 dunmer VA
Idk why I'm getting this recommended now but I'm glad. You're lore videos are way better than the other big ES channels like camel works and them. Keep doing what your doing you'll get there
Lol not even close to better than Camel 😂😂
I feel like umbra might've been inspired by the one ring, from the middle earth series/lord of the rings. It's backstory has many parallels if you think about it-a magical weapon, created by a diety that used part of their soul in its crafting. The artifact being irresistable to mortals, with a mind of its own and driving all users but its creator insane.
So that's why my player is always a psychotic, mass murdering basket case.
Kinda feel like a lot of cursed items follow similar lines, not exactly a Lord of the Rings thing.
umbras original lore was that it was just a regular sword. it was changed in oblivion.
It's more likely a reference to Stormbringer from the Elric books.
Jiub didn't kill all the cliff racers. He killed them to either near extinction or very much more tolerable levels.
Yep, because Mjoll boasts about killing them, and she’s a “young” nord woman.
He drove them out of Vvardenfell though
I LOVE the scene transitions with the dragon! Good sir, you've got yourself another subscriber!
Thank you!
M'aiq has the solution is in essence, there is a short quest early on that takes you to some plane of oblivion. In a cave? Possibly something to do with a chest. Its been a very long time.
You find a dagger in this area, with a note saying "From M'aiq to his son, M'aiq. "
"The Daedra are evil."
_Proceeds to turn a Daedric artifact that rejects the souls of intelligent beings into one that consumes and imprisons them in the dread plane of the Soul Cairn under the iron rule of the Ideal Masters_
Sinderion also taught a Dark elf woman how to farm nirnroot in the Rift
at 20:20 you put in song of storms, nearly drove me mad before I could remember where the music is from :)
Just like the guy playing the song
19:20 Hey, that cover was used on Cirith Ungol's Frost And Fire album!
Seeing Jiub's head is so jarring because you get used to goofy bethesda violence and then they spring a beloved character's gory remains on ya
0:02 "The Elder Scroll Series is Pepe"
Sheogorath: you...mortal....why do you trespass in my domain...why!! Do you step apon the madness that is my mania!!
Me: I just
Sheogorath: wrong awnser...or maybe its the right one. Its often hard to tell when your as mad as I. So before I punish you let's talk about the finer points.....my little mortal.
Me: can I just go i font even know how I got here
Sheogorath: most don't although most cant even speak. They usually ramble like true madman. Oh and about your punishment I was thinking of turning you into cheese.....NO a fork......A FORK MADE OF CHEESE!!!!
I have a theory about why some call Shadowmere a him, and others a her: Shadowmere is a Gelding. That means, Lucian thought Shadowmere was a mare because he saw no balls. However, Astrid examined the horse further, and determined: "Oh, it's a him, he's just a gelding."
Gelding of Sithis
Such badass title
I love how Neloth is still alive and kicking despite all things. It seems that a lot of elves can get very old though.
Somewhere around 300 years of lifespan
For unclear reasons, wizards have a much longer life span than their race is normally capable of. This is across the board.
Only mage elves live more than a few hundred years. Only mage humans live past their 80's. With necromancy or vampirism, you can extend your life indefinitely.
Awesome video sir! I really appreciate seeing the ties from characters throughout the series. Its one of the reasons I love the Elder Scrolls so much. Thanks for going back even farther than Morrowind for some of them. 👍
Thank you!! Was a bitch to load Daggerfall so, appreciate it 😂
I thought you said the elder scroll series was tepid, and I was like "damn"
Nelecar: The Daedra are evil!
Azura and Meridia: Excuse me, WTF?
Come on all gods or warp entitys aré evil.
Azura is fucked up sometimes, dude
Meridia, as much as I love her, is bland
The only arguably good daedra might be Hircine or Malacath
"Meridia may speak fair to mortals when she wishes to use them or command their obedience, but here in Cyrodiil we remember her for what she was: a patron and mentor to the Heartland High Elves, and complicit in the bondage and oppression of as much of humanity as the Ayleids could enslave. Her honeyed words hide devious purposes. Heed instead the words of the Covenants, and trust not in the promises of Daedra!" - Primate Artorius Ponticus, Akatosh Chantry
@@mrcopycat2355 i think u can definitely argue some daedra r good, all the good events in morrowind literally wouldnt have happened without azura
Even the "good" Daedra do bad things, and hey sometimes the "bad" Daedra do good things, the common thread is that they do what best serves them and their aims, some Daedra just have aims that favour mortals more and others less.
Azura didn't facilitate the events of Morrowind out of the goodness of her heart. She claims she wanted to help the Dunmer, but she also sought the death of Vivec. Vivec's loss of powers/death/disappearance leads directly to Red Mountain erupting which certainly goes against her stated aim of helping the Dunmer. More likely she just wanted to punish the Tribunal for their betrayal of her and Nerevar, damn the consequences.
Meridia doesn't understand nuances, she is the lady of light, she burns away all who doesn't follow her rules if at all possible. She tends to punish evildoers but only because some evildoers like necromancy, vampirism and the like. She doesn't actually care about suffering of mortals or anything like that.
Hircine cares about the hunt and its aspects, he likes the hunter, the hunted and all who take part in the hunt. He doesn't lift a finger to do anything but make the hunt interesting, sometimes that means helping the little guy (the prey) and sometimes it means creating a little guy (creating prey), we may consider the first good and the second bad, Hircine doesn't care. Hircine also created Lycanthropy which is a disease considered an evil to most mortals.
Malacath is gets the closest to good in his protection of outcasts, but he is so restrictive in his protection and in his rules that arguably he actually creates outcasts. Some Orsimer believe Malacath is a lie even, a fiction of Boethia meant to keep them from following their true god of Trinimac. Either way it's possible Malacath actually helps keep the Orcs in their outcast status because of his own desires and that he might not be helping them.
As for the other Daedra there are lots of times where even the outright evil Daedra will help cause some "good" event on Nirn because it helps that Daedra win a personal battle. The Daedra are all about self interest, it just happens at times that Daedric self interest aligns with what is best for mortals.
You know, I bet Blackrazor is also an Homage to Stormbringer. Blackrazor is a sentient greatsword from Dungeons and Dragons whose sole purpose is to consume the souls of the living. It is also immensely powerful, and often serves as a patron for Hexblade Warlocks who seek the sword's power. And yes, Blackrazor is a void-black greatsword.
Glad you explained each characters background
Is that Vivec in the thumbnail?! Damn, he looking good!
Oh, boy, here we go! I'm gonna watch ALL of it! Been waiting for a lore video like this for so long, but no chance I'd have the energy to make it myself. 😂
Anyone else give their characters the same last name across all sequels so that you could play as "descendants" of the original hero?
my character since Daggerfall is the same Altmer character with the same name, appearance and even more or less the same skills. Lore-wise it checks out, since Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion aren't very far apart, and Altmer live very long lives so even the 200 year gap between Oblivion and Skyrim just means he got gray hair.
There is some conflicting info though, in in-game books, Elves are said to live up to a 1000 years, although few of them actually did due to disease and violence, and yet Barenziah lived to be 430 and was considered "old". Divayth Fyr is said to be 4000 years old but it's heavily implied he prolonged his life either through magic, Corprus disease or both.
Then you have an ESO Q&A which contradicts all of this, saying Elves live "two to three times longer than men".
Meanwhile hand to hand in kenshi gets you killing a group of 30 bandits by yourself
I'm disappointed you didn't mention the use of Umbra in The Infernal City and The Immortal Soul.
The Immortal Soul = Lord of Souls (Unless I'm missing something)
@@elha7982 Yeah, that. Translation era and lack of clear memory of since it's been years didn't help.
I highly doubt people read the books as much as I'd hope they do. Greg Keyes is a great writer.
It was enjoyable seeing all the recurring characters
I had known all of the ones for oblivion but for that game specifically.
Isn't barenziah added in tribunal, not bloodmoon?
Edit: okay, the text at the start of her bit says bloodmoon but you do say tribunal later, but it sounds like when editing you may have clipped part of the beginning of her section off a bit?
Entirely possible. I had trouble streamlining some sections. Forgive. The REAL barneziahs story is yours to tell 😉
Great content as always mate! Thank you :)
Adventure on, Phat
Thank you, sir. Same to you!
They added Umbra in Skyrim in tbe Creation Club. The boss fight was AWESOME
reallly good video, love the transitions, editing and narration
Finally, now i know why there was a dunmer head on the ruins of Kvatch
Honestly the actor they got for Uriel from Daggerfall looks like what I would imagine a real life Haskill from the Shivering Isles dlc for Oblivion to look like.
Spot on!
Wow, old age REALLY got to Mannimarco
This makes Morrwind's fate a little better for me! I was pretty sad thinking that the only survivors from my playthrough were myself, Vivec, and Divath Fyr (who turns up dead in a book later)...
Umbra was underwhelming as far as power goes. Dawnfang/Duskfang is closer to Stormbringer in terms of its powers.
My favorite npc dead rotting corpse on a string
Horses sometimes takes on the name of the previous horse. So that’s how Shadowmere is that way.
But Shadowmere is immortal. S/he respawns in three days iirc if s/he's killed.
Or it could be that some angry Daedra are angrily looking around for another horse to slap the title of Shadowmere onto. 😂
The mad guy warrants the Song of Storms? Yeah, works for me.
makes you wonder wtf happens to the dragonborn, hope dude doesn't go mad, wonder if dragons are immune to hermeus' passive skill of giving his followers madness in knowledge... a little madness is okay tho. snickering here and there, kinda like The Comedian, making fun of everyone and everything's futility but still strives to overcome it regardless, like a big ass hypocrite lol. a powerful dragon hypocrite
"Systematically disappear to oblivion..." well being turned into a Deadra lord sorta includes that.
Umbra is also in TESV, but burried in the creation club
I find it charming, despite becoming far more casual and simple each game, they still acknowledge their roots.
Anyone in Skyrim you'd like to see return somehow for me it's Serana and arniel gane
J Zargo as the arch mage of hammerfell...
Sibille stendor ( don't know how she spelled ) the vampire by jarl elisif
@@johnrick3508 interesting be fun too see them
Tullius would be an interesting one but I think to cover the whole civil war thing, both Tullius and Ulfric will be dead. Tullius was the only competent leader in all of Skyrim, the rest all had massive flaws and should never have been in any position of power; it would be interesting to see if he became emperor since presumable the Dragonborn didn't.
Awesome vid bro watched the entire thing. Thanks for making this you deserve more attention!
I think lore wise Sotha Sil will always be one of my favorite characters... and I feel bad for what happens to him 😕
All 3 of them deserve to roast in oblivion for eternity.
They made the tribunal, they tried to be gods and they killed Nerevar.
Not to mention the fall of Baar Dau triggering the eruption of Red mountain and the resulting destruction of Vaardenfell.
I remember the pure joy I had when I found out my last name was the strongest weapon and armor set in Oblivion.
Great job on the video; and the *cheese!* To die for!
Thank you!
The death of the emperor in Oblivion with actually one of the saddest deaths in a game that I've ever seen and it was wonderfully done
I personally feels that Sheogorath in TS IV has much more charisma than in Skyrim.
Pretty sure the hero of kvatch ends up becoming sheogorath at the end of oblivion so maybe that explains it.
That cliffracer fly song tribute lmao 😂
13:16 - Worth noting that this statement about Black Soul Gems is partially incorrect; only souls that are specifically offered up to the Ideal Masters are sent to the Soul Cairn, not just any soul trapped in a black soul gem.
Cicero's voice acting is insane I love it
I HATE it lol but that's just my preference. It's done well but it's so annoying that I just want it to never have existed
@@laroselcouth8522 it's very good at being the worst thing to ever exist lmfao
Me watching this video.
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But better ad, than most of the times
the Ideal masters might have fit on the list, they were iirc in daggerfall, and are mentioned pretty heavily in skyrim's Dawnguard dlc
the Ideal Masters are from Battlespire which started as an expansion for Daggerfall and got spun off into its own game. The Soul Cairn is also in Battlespire, but that location is WAY different in that game.
I’m not saying La Chance is a good guy- but he was a better guy than... “that other guy” in the storyline
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@@shotgun3628 no. Bad.
24:55 When you stop paying attention in math class for 1 second
7am and im bored as a mf thanks for your work have a nice day
My pleasure
Umbra, based of the same Black Blade that inspired Blue Oyster Cults song…”My Master Is My Slave…”
Oblivion is such a high tier game
watched the whole thing. i’m glad I did, good work brother.