I think that it would be best before getting intimate with someone to let them know if you are trans, NOT for fear or danger of reprisal, but because there's less chance of hurt feelings on either side. It's NOT an excuse to harm someone, but it makes sense to discuss it before getting sexual.
Why is everyone ignoring the giant elephant in the room? Why is your child out meeting strange men at 3 o' clock in the morning? That is the biggest thing that needs to be addressed here!
Totally i agree with you. It’s the political agenda is why. There was 32 murdered last year. I mean one person is sad i get that, but the agenda is unbelievable. They call it genocide!! Better vote Democrat to stop the genocide. Unbelievable.
My parents were so strict with me and my sister we had to be home by 9 and that was a long time from having to be home at 7pm and we were only allowed to go to certain places. Sadly I still veered in a terrible direction but I've been sober now for 32 years. I got caught early but think about people who keep using for years and never make it. 😞 You're right though, in this day and age, no one should be out that late, it almost never ends well.
Nikki fighting this man, how does it define logic? Nikki is biologically a man so she has the strength to do so, but dumping the body after killing her just doesn't sit well with me 🤷🏾♀️
Mom at the end says "she was just a baby she was just a teenager" well "mom" why did you let her party, skip school, and not intervene when she was on meth?
I agree...seriously....I was a single mom with several kids and two jobs..........I worked my tail off but I would never have allowed my kids to do that...EVER
If her child had made different choices, she would still be here. Unfortunately she made wrong decisions and fell into the hands of the wrong man. It's sad. She didn't deserve a hate crime though.
At that young age out at all hours of the night, doing such hard drugs, lying to people, getting shot at?? This is the real problem. She mightve been a wonderful person but clearly with very deep problems and issues. Anyone living such a dangerous life that young has a high chance of not getting a good outcome.
Yep. But when we say "use common sense" & "make better decisions" I guarantee some dumbas* will come along and say "stop victim blaming!" Our society doesn't understand agency & personal responsibility anymore. Anything goes, apparently.
This is the whole truth people will deviate me from. The earlier people accepted to take full accountability and responsibility for their actions, the better the society becomes.
Would you say that about Long Island Serial killer's victims? And Robert Hansent, and many others. I mean, they were mostly escorts. How dare the rest of the world not be perfect? Nikki had issues. So do most people. Based on how judgemental your comment sounds, so do you. Should someone holier than thou disregard your death if someone kills you? Because you're not perfect.
16 addicted to meth,suspended from school,took 6 bullets on a drug buy situation,violent and out at all times of the night?maybe he/she needed a parent not a friend .
Exactly why Parents raised in a Single Parent home or a Broken Family Unit, should seek advice of Successful (Relativity) Parents the same ways First Time Parents do (New Borns). Using "The Force" sci-fi results, in a "Horror" Sci-fi outcome.
@@sharimeline3077 Because her mother clearly said " Nikki led the way around here". I'm not shaming or accusing anyone but she said "Nikki was my Best Friend"...not a healthy relationship. I'm sad for her family, especially her Mom. No one deserves this ending, we all (hopefully) learn from our mistakes. This lesson is definitely HARDER than any other!!
24:31 Well that’s a beautiful sentiment. But. It’s such a shame that Lisa’s drive “to do right by her child” didn’t kick in earlier, ie while her child was alive and spiraling. *My comment is NOT based on the matter of transgender status.. we can remove that factor from my point entirely.* Because her child, trans or not, was clearly struggling and on a very destructive path as a school suspended, violent fighting, shot 6 times, teenage METH addict for goodness sakes. Red flags were a-flying and gave Lisa multiple opportunities to “do right by her child”. This is beyond tragic.
@@kerrykent7194 There is no need, as that what this video focuses on. What it doesn't focus on, is the bad parenting that contributed to that young girl's spiraling and eventual death. Since it doesn't get enough attention in the video, people feel the need to highlight it here. None of the comments concerned with the mother were aimed at excusing the killer's actions.
@@griceltorres7701 there is a reason why certain behaviors are deemed risky... cause they come with dangerous risks. Accusing people of "Victim blaming" isn't helping other teens Do you want other 17 yrs olds to end up the same way.. they need to learn that certain events can be prevented.
The killer was quick to point out Nikki’s lifestyle was a biblical sin yet glossed over his lifestyle of picking up whom he thought was a vulnerable girl for casual sex, giving them alcohol and drugs, and murdering them. Some defense.🙄We’re commanded to LOVE. GOD judges our sins.
yes- i got stuck on this as well. "The killer was quick to point out Nikki’s lifestyle was a biblical sin yet glossed over his lifestyle of picking up whom he thought was a vulnerable girl for casual sex, giving them alcohol and drugs, and murdering them". horribly sad & digusting.
Yes. Even if Nikki was biologically a woman she was still an underage and vulnerable child. I wonder what other kids he’s picked up, drugged and assaulted before this case.
I find it crazy that Nikki was still able to go out at night after her mom finding out that she's been using drugs and got shot six times. This is such a tragic case that could've been prevented
I guess you BOTH missed the fact that Nikki was not living with either of her parents, huh? But, how about we just stop BLAMING victims? ANY of the victims. Victims include family and friends.
She was 17 and living with friends. Regardless, what right does a parent have to keep their teen captive because they were struggling with substance use a year prior?
She cared about her daughter so much but yet had no problem with her running the streets, doing drugs and had already been shot six times and still allowed her to run the street afterwards, great mother!!!! Maybe she needs to take a little bit of accountability and responsibility!!
Meth usually has a weird effect on people especially men. My mom is a p.o she said it effects men and women but especially men sexually in a weird way and they do weird sex stuff
@@kathenry1337when they correctly shot it up, which is a big amount it can heighten sexual obsession in male and female if they are sexually active, if they are not sexually active it can just make them super hyperactive, but chances of them shooting up are already sexually active already as for snorting it up their nose or smoking it or what is a combination of the two called hot rail, ingesting, and also something called turkey bastings which i dont know if that is real but could be and I'm not going to explain that, so don't ask, which ever way it's done, it has a different effect, but effect male and female the same way, the more that's taking, the more it makes the person erratic.
@sharimeline3077 you do realise that biological women get murdered all the time due to living life dangerously but for some reason the trans community took ALL of the blame away from Nikki despite her making bad decisions repeatedly and sleeping with complete strangers for drug money. Trust me if this was just an average biological woman she would 100% receive scrutiny for her behaviour and actions.
I am hurt by the mere fact that Nikkis mom said so comfortably that she led the way and mom followed. Failed parenting, may the poor girl rest in peace
@@kathysmotherman2515 her friends and the interviewer, they only talked about how tough she was and that wouldn’t stop her, also showed pics of every smiling and posing in the hospital
Seems like the mom wanted to be more of a 'yass queen' bestie than a mom to her kid, you can tell how how delusional she is about Nikki's behavior, the behavior she facilitated.
I respect transgender people and want them to be able to live their lives the way they please HOWEVER I DO BELIEVE that a STRAIGHT person should have a RIGHT to know who STRAIGHT person is DATING
I see plenty of these kind of tragic endings, and usually the accused found out way too late in the relationship, or meeting that the person they were talking to was actually not a woman. Just say when the flirting begins that you are trans, because if you are proud of who you are (as you should be, like we all should trans, straight, in between etc), then you should have no problem saying it when someone is flirting with you.
@@realreviews4017 Educate yourself. As a hetero Cis Person, we are very privileged but there is a Reason for Queer People not to come forward as if they talk about their fav Color etc.Blaming Victims never helped anybody...
In no way is it ok or justifys anyone being murdered. I think its important whether straight, bi, gay or transgender that people are open and honest prior to engaging in any type of intimate contact with anyone, in many times it will prevent disappointment from both parties and allow the other person to make a decision whether they want to pursue something with a man, women or transgender.
@@zombiechicken7114So do you think that a trans person should not be honest about being trans then? And just it let be a surprise or something when they become intimate with someone? Is that what you think?
@@zombiechicken7114come on bsffr, Nikki told him the night of their “date”. A lie is a lie is a LIE. A person should NEVER just surprise another about something as serious as their gender identity the night of meeting up. This is typically why trans murders occur. Research shows this. Time & time again. Be honest and up front from JUMP. Lying no matter what the situation never ends up well.
Parenting is not a part time job, if you're willing to have children then expect to dedicate yr entire life, the mother was at fault, seeing all these red flags and the parent never did anything is ridiculous
they just patted him on the back and said "wow your mental illness is wonderful huh?" "must be great to be used all the time" ugh I can not identify with these "baby mills".
@@trishhamilton2049 Mental illness? I don't think that murderer's parents were patting him on the back for being deranged? Mental illness is nothing to be praised. His parents should have raised him not to hate other people for just living their lives. What "baby mills" are you talking about?
In regards to a potentially romantic relationship, it is imperative for the trans person to be honest from the beginning. It’s for the safety of the trans person.
Never ever pick up strangers or get into a strangers vehicle. Don't drink and drive. Don't do drugs. Don't lie, deceive others for personal gain. These are the real lessons here.
I love how the MRAs are blaming the victim. This is always what I see when women are the vic and men are the perps. We're suppose to do better, not the men (a.k.a., the perps).
@@knavishlassie I apologize I meant young people on school nights? Roaming the streets not going to school? Is that not asking for trouble??? High risk behavior = Dangerous consequences
The suggestion that someone high on meth would go for a gun “defies logic?” Um, yeah, no it doesn’t. Have you ever encountered someone high on meth? Lol
Also that Nikki was somehow helpless?? Yeah right, physically she was still a man. Wayyy stronger than most women regardless of what Nikki claimed to be. PLUS, Nikki was high on METH!!! AND we ALL know about meth and what it does regarding physical strength. It sure as hell doesn't turn people into timid, little butterflies!!!
Yup. When a 25yo masc approaches an attractive teen femme who's alone at night, it's not because they're a nice guy. He wanted something from her. Pretty sure he wouldn't have gone up to an old, heavyset man walking alone at night to see if he needed help... ya know?
@@thedeviouspanda Well it's simple really, his mother knew he was a boy but accepted him as a girl. The dynamics change when its an actual girl. His confidence is that of a young man and not of a 16 year old biological female who are generally more cautious and would not behave like him. His mother no doubt took many a verbal beating from him so she let him do whatever. Not her fault, she's only submitting to the alpha male.
Another fact is that this was still a 16 year old.. not really mentally in a place to make decisions with clarity of consequences that would follow, that’s where guidance comes in, especially with meth, I’ve heard it’s difficult for full adults to shake, can’t imagine 16 and living an adult lifestyle 🥹
I was once 14 and despite being a “good girl”, sometimes I lied to my parents that I’m staying at my friend’s place and instead was hanging out with a group of guys that were doing drugs and drinking. I was madly in love with one of them… now I’m 33 and I’m thankful that poor decisions didn’t ruin my life, but there’s no chance I’d understand anything back then. Just remember that you’ve also been a child one day and probably did stupid things..
Still too young to decide to be a girl. So many teens regret their choice to "change gender". But those promoting trans ideology aren't honest with the world about that.
No matter which side of the social/moral issue involved here you live, no person DESERVES to be assaulted or killed. Period. My heart breaks for all the families who end up dealing with the outcome of someone else's choices. Yes, it sounds like Nikki was on a self-destructive path but she didn't deserve a death sentence because of those choices. I'm glad she was her own beautiful self for as long as possible. My prayers are with mama now.
Very true, she was continually putting herself in high risk situations, eventually you're going to run out of luck. If only she'd been honest to the guy from the very start, she'd still be alive.
Although I agree with your comment, please keep in mind that this was a child that had just turned 17. She needed guidance, that probably would've come much later, but now it's too late!
@@kgotabody13 If he gotten the proper guidance from his doctors, teachers, parents (DAD INCLUDED) , and friends this would not have happened. THEY all lied to him.
@@RaquelSantos-hj1mq can a teenager legally buy cigarettes? Can a teenager legally purchase beer? Can a teenager legally obtain insurance on a vehicle without an adult? Can a 17 year old go to the military without having an adult sign for them? We know that the cognitive development of humans doesn’t fully develop until around 25. Nicholas is a boy and his “mom” allowed this psychological disorder to develop into this vile behavior. Nicholas was a boy, not a girl and it should have been addressed in the home by the parents period.
@@RaquelSantos-hj1mq legally, the law disagrees with you. at least in the US, idk about Canada. no one is basically anything. they either are or they aren't.
Nikki had a history of hitting people her even said, “I would get called for her hitting people.” Why is it hard to believe that he freaked out on him after feeling rejected because he pushed him back and called him disgusting? This could’ve ended up differently if Nikki was up front with who he truly was. I am not saying the guy that killed him is in the right he should’ve killed him. This is just sad the mom basically let Nikki do what he wanted she even said it. “I just let Nikki lead the way.” Kids are not supposed to lead the way as parents we are supposed to guid them and protect them. This mom didn’t do that. Truly sad
Lying to someone about your true gender or misleading about it can't be ever acceptable. This can come as a huge shocker to the other person and not everyone can handle shock properly. This in no way justifies violence or crime, yet people cornered like this not always act rational. Tolerance is one thing, respecting other people and their boundries is another. These boundries are being attacked harcore in the name of tolerance these days.
@daniellejaskula7669 ... I've been an addict since I was 17 been in recovery for almost 2yrs and just to let u know my dad tried everything he thought he could to help me and 20yrs later it was me who finally accepted that I wanted help ... so sorry but your comment is not entirely true
Sooo.....sending your addicted CHILD to MULTIPLE REHABS that didn't stick-is now "bad parenting"-along with trying everything to get Nikki back home ??? 🤔 You obviously know NOTHING about drug addiction-especially Meth & how extremely difficult it is to stop You can beg plead borrow physically trap the person & whatever else you can think of & until they're so sick & tired of being sick & tired-will they finally surrender A CHILD IS DEAD FFS but I realize that showing RESPECT to that HORRIFIC fact is asking entirely too much 🤡 😓
@@WhatSheSayz77 Great comment & GOOD FOR YOU !!! Hold your head high 'coz you kicked the monster 💪 I wish you love & happiness on your journey of recovery 🤗 Blessed Be 💜✌️ Blessed Be 💜✌️
She was seventeen. No matter how you twist or turn it and whether she did or didn't make the right choices, she was a teenager. She did not deserve to die
how do people mix up deserved to die and was living a risky lifestyle that would increase your odds of dying? I haven't seen one comment say she deserved to die, quit twisting people's words like you don't have the ability to understand
It is not safe to get into cars with strangers. People need to remember this as it could save your life. My mom taught me that when I was toddler age. 🥴
It should ALSO be punishable by law if someone engages in any form of sexual contact (including kissing) without informing the other person they are trans. As a man I can tell you I would suffer serious trama if I discovered I was kissing another man dressed as a woman. The mere thought makes me nauseous. I don’t care how trendy it is to be trans; the law should protect those who are misled in this way. There’s absolutely nothing acceptable about non disclosure.
I totally agree. I am Hetero and the thought of being with a Woman pretending to be a man is nauseating. It would make any of us feel violated and traumatized. Nikki brought this on himself!!!! That was a nasty thing to do to someone.
Nikki died because her mother wouldn’t parent her… a kid out in the middle of the night meeting random men, doing meth, skipping school… that’s on her, regardless of her gender.
Based on the comments, I believe many will agree. I can Starr by saying in no way, did the victim deserve to be killed. With that said, multiple people, including the victim, could and should have made better decisions with simple common sense and better judgment. If transgenders or anyone else for that matter wishes to be respected and treated with care, then they should also respect and treat others with the same respect and care. By doing so, that would include being up front about sexual gender.
I doubt the initial shooting was over drugs...but hey, raging hormones and a belief that you're invincible can be a deadly combo. Meeting someone for casual sex is always going to be a dicey situation regardless of whether one person is transgender or not ...look at the Grace Millane case.
Respect to all transpeople and their decision to live their life the way they want and need. There is no justification for the crime. But, being deceitful to others by not revealing their own identity is unacceptable as well. Sure, be who you are but but be honest and open about it.
Uh, when you make excuses for your kid hitting other kids in school a bunch of times 'but it was always to defend other kids', you're a bad mom. Then drugs and truancy and doing whatever else, while underage?? And don't even start with this 'when trans people go missing they're often dead' stuff- that's the case with EVERYONE.
Remember guys, don't be too all-American, don't be the life of the party, don't light up a room and keep your shirt on your back. Follow this advice and you'll live longer.☑
How can a person do such a thing to another human being and still close their eyes at night. So heartbreaking. Meeting people on social media is very dangerous, and 99% of people lie about what they look like or who they are. You cant start a relationship on a lie.
"The term 'sexual assault' refers to sexual contact or behavior that occurs without explicit consent of the victim." A transgender engaging in sexual activity without disclosing that they are trans is sexual assault. This was self defense in response to a sexual assault followed by a physical assault. We need a law to properly define this behavior.
Yeah I agree that should not be ever hidden from a sexual partner but let’s not act like she deserved to be killed. The guy strangled this person and we don’t know if it was self defence as he claimed. I doubt she was going to jump for the gun tbh
@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij The "but they didn't deserve to be killed" argument people like to make in these situations is always a deflection from the issue. No one is ever saying the person *deserved* to be killed. That's besides the point.
13:00 *MONTHS* went by before police located David? How does that happen this day & age? Like come on. U have his name and address. Do a stakeout. Or more. That's ridiculous. "Oh we finally *heard from him* four months later" 😡just your prime and only suspect, that's all. Smh
So disturbing, the relationship mother/daughter. sorry to say, but if her mother would have take her mother responsibilities serious, there would maybe another result with Nikki. as we say here in switzerland: don‘t give your child always what they want, give them, WHAT THEY NEED!
Also, when you’re underage the parent has the right to have you go to rehab whether they like it or not. The teen may throw a fit but ultimately is grateful to be introduced to sobriety.
Crap parenting. HE was Suspended, HE was addicted to drugs , social media, transgender. All relating to rubbish parenting, anyone checking where the son was at that time of night? No cause you allowed it to happen a million times before
Nope. This is why at least one safe parent is needed. That the mother phrased it as "She led the way, I followed" says alot. Also: single mothers mostly didn't chose that past from the get-go. Many were forced to leave in order to survive. So in the end, it often is to blame on the fathers. But not them missing, but them behaving abusive.
I told that to my kids' dad. He was too busy trying to get back with me so much that my children were able to point that out. They eventually told me to stop trying (I drove to wherever so that he could spend whatever time with them -- up to 1k+ mile trip one way). They used to tell their friends that he was dead before he actually passed away. So, I'd have to disagree. Oh.. I left the relationship with the encouragement of my children & both sides of the family due to his horrible treatment (I was the ONLY female he put his hands on). No matter how hard I tried -- he was still absent. 🫤🫤
The whole mess is so sad. Yes, she was very young. She was so at risk, mom, she needed limits set by her mom. She also set the young man up for quit a surprise. You dont really believe guys are up for that ?
Someone really confident in themselves would not use Meth. I’m being totally judgmental but it sounds like the mother is on pills. It makes me wonder why her high school aged child was out meeting strangers in the middle of the night? It appears that the victim had a lot of issues, even though Nikki was accepted by her family and friends, there was still more going on. A lot of times, trans children/teens think transitioning will solve their problems but it does not.
WTF, no offense, but can we stop pretending that this is some do good, regular 17 year old girl?This is the most over produced, forced episode I’ve ever seen.
When women go missing period they are also usually found deceased not just trans women. 3:51 Not trying to be mean but if u r trans n r meeting up with someone just tell them u r trans. Some ppls egos can't handle being tricked like that honestly.
Yep and usually them trans want to hunch so it should be a law on the books where the trans has to tell folks up front that they are trans just like there's laws on the books where you have to state your HIV/AIDS status...before you come at my comment you know what I'm trying to say
I don't understand how you get intimate with someone and not tell them what's down there. Like, do you just hope they will not notice? Hiw angry do you have to get to strangle someone, just for that reason?
This guy is acting all self righteous, yet he this righteous grown adult was okay with meeting & doing drugs with an underage teen in the middle of the night, with the intention of sleeping with them
With heterosexual males, full disclosure is mandatory. If you are transgender, you owe it to the other person to disclose this before you allow yourself to become intimate with them. This is just common decency. On the other hand, he had no right to react the way he did and take someones life. This tragedy was preventable.
You can call him a girl all you want lady, but he is a dude. And he should have never put that other man in that position being lead on by a tricksters. It's plain wrong and it needs to stop.
This video made me sad and angry at the same time. This death was absolutely preventable! Her mum was lax. She allowed too many things to go unchecked. If my child came to me with a drug problem im forcefully taking you to rehab i dont care how many times you fall of the wagon. We will keep trying. As for the perpetrator hope he goes to jail for life
No matter what the reason Nikki was getting into fights, her mother should've stopped that. There's no reason as a preteen or teenager to be getting into physical violence for any reason, that's not the way to solve problems. It makes me sad that this mom really loved her daughter but did wrong by her anyway. It's a shame. They both needed someone on the outside who was sensible to talk sense into them both.
Love and pamper your child till age 5 then be strict parent till age 16 be their guide afterwards..... You know what your child is doing , you know what kind of ppl are around so please guide them in proper way. Getting addicted to durgs so early risking life by meeting strangers at odd time she had invited too many dangers for herself. Its sad for a parent to loss a child so early this will be a never healing injury in her life. I wish all youngsters be bit more sensible and cautious when you are going to explore new things. Same parents keep tab on your kids on what they are doing.
Nikki or nicolas reacting with violence is completely believable especially considering it has been suspended from school multiple times for hitting people per the mom. Also, it is a meth addict. Who knows man. But I completely believe the real victim (David) who is still alive and ended up in jail. You can be whatever you want but do not enforce it on others. Respect other peoples boundaries. Not everyone want to be oj the trendy trans train. Nikki/Nicolas parents failed it, period!
I think that it would be best before getting intimate with someone to let them know if you are trans, NOT for fear or danger of reprisal, but because there's less chance of hurt feelings on either side. It's NOT an excuse to harm someone, but it makes sense to discuss it before getting sexual.
I totally agree.
It is called respect.
Exactly 💯 I said also
No u tell them cause they will be mad period
@@emilymclaare stu%$# no u tell them cause there a guy with or no surgery
Why is everyone ignoring the giant elephant in the room? Why is your child out meeting strange men at 3 o' clock in the morning? That is the biggest thing that needs to be addressed here!
No kidding. What kind of mom is this?
Totally i agree with you. It’s the political agenda is why. There was 32 murdered last year. I mean one person is sad i get that, but the agenda is unbelievable. They call it genocide!! Better vote Democrat to stop the genocide. Unbelievable.
Agreed.
My parents were so strict with me and my sister we had to be home by 9 and that was a long time from having to be home at 7pm and we were only allowed to go to certain places. Sadly I still veered in a terrible direction but I've been sober now for 32 years. I got caught early but think about people who keep using for years and never make it. 😞 You're right though, in this day and age, no one should be out that late, it almost never ends well.
Nikki fighting this man, how does it define logic? Nikki is biologically a man so she has the strength to do so, but dumping the body after killing her just doesn't sit well with me 🤷🏾♀️
Mom at the end says "she was just a baby she was just a teenager" well "mom" why did you let her party, skip school, and not intervene when she was on meth?
Yup. Terrible mother that should not have children
I agree...seriously....I was a single mom with several kids and two jobs..........I worked my tail off but I would never have allowed my kids to do that...EVER
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Totally agree with you!
@@classique4654easy to just say that but until you deal with that in your own life keep your opinion to yourself
If her child had made different choices, she would still be here. Unfortunately she made wrong decisions and fell into the hands of the wrong man. It's sad. She didn't deserve a hate crime though.
When mom says "Nikki led the way, I just followed," that basically sums up the entire video.
mom sounds like she stole something from the stash as well. nikki taking uppers mommy taking downers. talk about a failed guardian
Pretty much. I was thinking the exact thing same thing.
in which way?
Exactly. Mom should have led the way for her child, not vice versa.
🎯 17-years kid att night with a stranger? 🤦🏻♀️😖🤯
At that young age out at all hours of the night, doing such hard drugs, lying to people, getting shot at?? This is the real problem. She mightve been a wonderful person but clearly with very deep problems and issues. Anyone living such a dangerous life that young has a high chance of not getting a good outcome.
Big facts
Yep. But when we say "use common sense" & "make better decisions" I guarantee some dumbas* will come along and say "stop victim blaming!"
Our society doesn't understand agency & personal responsibility anymore. Anything goes, apparently.
That's what happens when as child is never told NO.
This is the whole truth people will deviate me from.
The earlier people accepted to take full accountability and responsibility for their actions, the better the society becomes.
Would you say that about Long Island Serial killer's victims? And Robert Hansent, and many others. I mean, they were mostly escorts.
How dare the rest of the world not be perfect?
Nikki had issues. So do most people. Based on how judgemental your comment sounds, so do you. Should someone holier than thou disregard your death if someone kills you? Because you're not perfect.
16 addicted to meth,suspended from school,took 6 bullets on a drug buy situation,violent and out at all times of the night?maybe he/she needed a parent not a friend .
Agreed!
Yep where is or was dad ?
I agreed, parents these days try to be their kids friends instead of parents.
You mean he*
Could he have given anymore cries for help! But claiming he was so brave just reinforces his pain.
Your children need your guidance NOT your friendship!! RIP Nikki.
Amen to that
Correct. Parents cannot be best friends with their children ! It is unhealthy!
And what has that got to do with this? How do you know she wasn't getting guidance?
Exactly why Parents raised in a Single Parent home or a Broken Family Unit, should seek advice of Successful (Relativity) Parents the same ways First Time Parents do (New Borns). Using "The Force" sci-fi results, in a "Horror" Sci-fi outcome.
@@sharimeline3077 Because her mother clearly said " Nikki led the way around here". I'm not shaming or accusing anyone but she said "Nikki was my Best Friend"...not a healthy relationship. I'm sad for her family, especially her Mom. No one deserves this ending, we all (hopefully) learn from our mistakes. This lesson is definitely HARDER than any other!!
24:31 Well that’s a beautiful sentiment. But. It’s such a shame that Lisa’s drive “to do right by her child” didn’t kick in earlier, ie while her child was alive and spiraling. *My comment is NOT based on the matter of transgender status.. we can remove that factor from my point entirely.* Because her child, trans or not, was clearly struggling and on a very destructive path as a school suspended, violent fighting, shot 6 times, teenage METH addict for goodness sakes. Red flags were a-flying and gave Lisa multiple opportunities to “do right by her child”.
This is beyond tragic.
You don't have to qualify your stance. Nothing you said was wrong. She was a terrible parent to a troubled, drug addict, violent kid. Period.
Any focus on the murderer. You've taken the time to comment on everything else in this story. Except the murderer? Is he just invisible in this story?
@@kerrykent7194 There is no need, as that what this video focuses on. What it doesn't focus on, is the bad parenting that contributed to that young girl's spiraling and eventual death. Since it doesn't get enough attention in the video, people feel the need to highlight it here. None of the comments concerned with the mother were aimed at excusing the killer's actions.
She was 17 meeting strangers from the internet in person in the middle of the night? Maybe I missed something but why wasn't she at home?
Nikki didn't live with the parents
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What part of meth addict, violent, and dealing w drug users did u miss?
Doesn't matter. She should not have been killed. Stop victim blaming.
@griceltorres7701 talking about the parents genius
@@griceltorres7701 there is a reason why certain behaviors are deemed risky... cause they come with dangerous risks. Accusing people of "Victim blaming" isn't helping other teens Do you want other 17 yrs olds to end up the same way.. they need to learn that certain events can be prevented.
The killer was quick to point out Nikki’s lifestyle was a biblical sin yet glossed over his lifestyle of picking up whom he thought was a vulnerable girl for casual sex, giving them alcohol and drugs, and murdering them. Some defense.🙄We’re commanded to LOVE. GOD judges our sins.
he talks about nikki but was having pre marital sex..sad sorry
yes- i got stuck on this as well. "The killer was quick to point out Nikki’s lifestyle was a biblical sin yet glossed over his lifestyle of picking up whom he thought was a vulnerable girl for casual sex, giving them alcohol and drugs, and murdering them". horribly sad & digusting.
He didn't give her drugs. She was already a meth addict
Seems to be common amongst religious people. Always quick to judge others, while forgetting their en "sins" shortcomings.
Yes. Even if Nikki was biologically a woman she was still an underage and vulnerable child. I wonder what other kids he’s picked up, drugged and assaulted before this case.
I find it crazy that Nikki was still able to go out at night after her mom finding out that she's been using drugs and got shot six times. This is such a tragic case that could've been prevented
Bad parents.
I guess you BOTH missed the fact that Nikki was not living with either of her parents, huh?
But, how about we just stop BLAMING victims? ANY of the victims. Victims include family and friends.
@@jrambo7495exactly, their mom was more of a friend than a parent. Let them do whatever they wanted so the mom could be the cool one on the block
She was 17 and living with friends. Regardless, what right does a parent have to keep their teen captive because they were struggling with substance use a year prior?
@@randibgood a teen and not living with their parents is CRAZY
She cared about her daughter so much but yet had no problem with her running the streets, doing drugs and had already been shot six times and still allowed her to run the street afterwards, great mother!!!! Maybe she needs to take a little bit of accountability and responsibility!!
Parents can't control everything their kids do just like they couldn't control the mistakes you've made.
I’m sure she did have a problem with her running the streets.
@joseluvs69 A 16 year old addicted to meth that can't do homework without drugs? Get outta here. That's not normal or normal parenting.
Oh yeah bio girls domt do that i forgot durpsurp
SON. Never a daughter.
16 year old addicted to meth? Poor kid, never stood a chance.
Meth usually has a weird effect on people especially men. My mom is a p.o she said it effects men and women but especially men sexually in a weird way and they do weird sex stuff
@@kathenry1337when they correctly shot it up, which is a big amount it can heighten sexual obsession in male and female if they are sexually active, if they are not sexually active it can just make them super hyperactive, but chances of them shooting up are already sexually active already as for snorting it up their nose or smoking it or what is a combination of the two called hot rail, ingesting, and also something called turkey bastings which i dont know if that is real but could be and I'm not going to explain that, so don't ask, which ever way it's done, it has a different effect, but effect male and female the same way, the more that's taking, the more it makes the person erratic.
@@kathenry1337she's right.
Jip. Trust American broadcasting to make it a gender issue
And a liar to boot.
A huge part of Nikki's story is being a meth addict. Wonder why no one is focused on helping addicts
Cause it more trendy to focus on him being "trans".
meth heads are loons,unpredictable...there's every chance the kid went for that gun
@@jnbr7520 Yeah, went for the gun because she was about to get strangled to death. My god, does everyone here side with the murderer?
I would say switching genders didn't make that person happy as they thought it would so they started using meth.
@sharimeline3077 you do realise that biological women get murdered all the time due to living life dangerously but for some reason the trans community took ALL of the blame away from Nikki despite her making bad decisions repeatedly and sleeping with complete strangers for drug money. Trust me if this was just an average biological woman she would 100% receive scrutiny for her behaviour and actions.
I am hurt by the mere fact that Nikkis mom said so comfortably that she led the way and mom followed. Failed parenting, may the poor girl rest in peace
Guy.
Any man who says "I'm a nice guy" is NOT a nice guy.
What about, 'i try to to be a nice person'?
Right! When he said that I immediately said “he did it”
A 16 year old addicted to meth out in the middle of night meeting a crazy drunken Christian carrying a gun. America is a wild place.
Victim is from Canada but ok
@@alianaweston2286 and where did it happen sorry?
@@alianaweston2286 Vancouver Washington is a part of the Portland, OR metro area.
Not Canada.
And I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
That's because you never have lived, and never will live, anywhere else.
Kinda weird how they glorying her gettin shot over a bad drug deal. Most of this story is because bad parenting but RIP to the person gone
Exactly
Who "glorified her getting shot six times" plz ?? 🤔
TYIA 💜✌️
Ikr😮
@@kathysmotherman2515 her friends and the interviewer, they only talked about how tough she was and that wouldn’t stop her, also showed pics of every smiling and posing in the hospital
100%
Seems like the mom wanted to be more of a 'yass queen' bestie than a mom to her kid, you can tell how how delusional she is about Nikki's behavior, the behavior she facilitated.
Exactly. Nicholas needed guidance not friendship. Good parents nowadays are hard to find.
I respect transgender people and want them to be able to live their lives the way they please HOWEVER I DO BELIEVE that a STRAIGHT person should have a RIGHT to know who STRAIGHT person is DATING
I don't care what you call yourselves just be straight with ppl before you hook up with them
I see plenty of these kind of tragic endings, and usually the accused found out way too late in the relationship, or meeting that the person they were talking to was actually not a woman. Just say when the flirting begins that you are trans, because if you are proud of who you are (as you should be, like we all should trans, straight, in between etc), then you should have no problem saying it when someone is flirting with you.
I think he’s dead because he wasn’t upfront from the get go.
@@realreviews4017 Educate yourself. As a hetero Cis Person, we are very privileged but there is a Reason for Queer People not to come forward as if they talk about their fav Color etc.Blaming Victims never helped anybody...
@@opiumeyes2858 wtf is a hetero CIS. That mean your from a different solar system?
@@opiumeyes2858 Stop using meaningless words.
In no way is it ok or justifys anyone being murdered. I think its important whether straight, bi, gay or transgender that people are open and honest prior to engaging in any type of intimate contact with anyone, in many times it will prevent disappointment from both parties and allow the other person to make a decision whether they want to pursue something with a man, women or transgender.
True but nikki was honest before it became intimate and this is what happened!!
@@zombiechicken7114So do you think that a trans person should not be honest about being trans then? And just it let be a surprise or something when they become intimate with someone? Is that what you think?
@@zombiechicken7114were u there
@@zombiechicken7114 are you serious 🥴. You don’t know, you weren’t there🙄.
@@zombiechicken7114come on bsffr, Nikki told him the night of their “date”. A lie is a lie is a LIE. A person should NEVER just surprise another about something as serious as their gender identity the night of meeting up. This is typically why trans murders occur. Research shows this. Time & time again. Be honest and up front from JUMP. Lying no matter what the situation never ends up well.
Parenting is not a part time job, if you're willing to have children then expect to dedicate yr entire life, the mother was at fault, seeing all these red flags and the parent never did anything is ridiculous
Yes!!!!
What do you mean she never did anything? You're just up here lying.
they just patted him on the back and said "wow your mental illness is wonderful huh?" "must be great to be used all the time" ugh I can not identify with these "baby mills".
@@trishhamilton2049
Mental illness? I don't think that murderer's parents were patting him on the back for being deranged? Mental illness is nothing to be praised. His parents should have raised him not to hate other people for just living their lives.
What "baby mills" are you talking about?
Sooo.... Nikki's mom that SENT NIKKI TO MULTIPLE REHABS that didn't stick-is "doing nothing" ?? 🤔
Btw-Nikki didn't live with the parents 🤡
In regards to a potentially romantic relationship, it is imperative for the trans person to be honest from the beginning. It’s for the safety of the trans person.
Bad parenting no minor should be allowed do such things theres a reason children need parents not friends
Aww, you didn't get any hugs as a child? So sad for you.
And both parents most importantly.
@MichaelGomez-hh2xp
Right! If we didn't need parents the good Lord would have let us come to this world without them.
Her "mother" is NOT a mother... sorry. Sounds like NO PARENTING GOING ON THERE! She even said herself she was the follower...
HIS mother. He was male.
And apparently from NICHOLAS's childhood, momma just gave in and enabled confused behavior instead of being a mother and guiding HIM.
Never ever pick up strangers or get into a strangers vehicle.
Don't drink and drive.
Don't do drugs.
Don't lie, deceive others for personal gain.
These are the real lessons here.
Yes! Absolutely. Good character, self preservation, and self accountability are so important!
I love how the MRAs are blaming the victim. This is always what I see when women are the vic and men are the perps.
We're suppose to do better, not the men (a.k.a., the perps).
Don't be your kids friend before youre their parent!
It sounds like Nikkis mom was her biggest problem. Mom was too busy trying to be a cool friend, than being a mom. So sad
Yep! Exactly right.
& dad...does be even exist, no 2onder even considers the fathers role
No father so he didn't have a chance to be masculine.
Nick
I didn't have a father and I turned out all right it's kind of weird it's almost like those people were really born that way @@BlockchainLYFE
Babies should be home with their parents not out and about at night roaming the streets.
Babies?
@@knavishlassie I apologize I meant young people on school nights? Roaming the streets not going to school? Is that not asking for trouble??? High risk behavior = Dangerous consequences
Using the word "babies" is so ridiculous.
Under no circumstances was he/she a baby
Yeah and her mom said, "She led the way, and I just followed". Um.. the parent is supposed to lead the way, and the child should follow.
The suggestion that someone high on meth would go for a gun “defies logic?” Um, yeah, no it doesn’t. Have you ever encountered someone high on meth? Lol
Also that Nikki was somehow helpless?? Yeah right, physically she was still a man. Wayyy stronger than most women regardless of what Nikki claimed to be. PLUS, Nikki was high on METH!!! AND we ALL know about meth and what it does regarding physical strength. It sure as hell doesn't turn people into timid, little butterflies!!!
Correction, went for gun after bisexual David had sex with her and was trying to throttle her. Equally fits his story(s).
People on meth are violent and even grape infants so you're wrong
"I was just trying to be a nice guy" - immediate red flag.
Yup. When a 25yo masc approaches an attractive teen femme who's alone at night, it's not because they're a nice guy. He wanted something from her. Pretty sure he wouldn't have gone up to an old, heavyset man walking alone at night to see if he needed help... ya know?
"I am a man pretending to be a woman" red flag! 🚩🚩
I am a dude pretending to be a girl. Bigger flag
Yep. Just a nice guy offering girls vodka from his van 🙄
@@MusaAexactly
Moral of the story, don't drink alcohol, don't pick up strangers, don't hurt people.
Why was she not living with her mom? She was only 16?
Why was he not living with his mom? He was only 16?....for those still not sure. You're welcome.
Annoying that people can't give a real answer instead of being smartasses about transgender people.
Exactly
@@thedeviouspanda Well it's simple really, his mother knew he was a boy but accepted him as a girl. The dynamics change when its an actual girl. His confidence is that of a young man and not of a 16 year old biological female who are generally more cautious and would not behave like him. His mother no doubt took many a verbal beating from him so she let him do whatever. Not her fault, she's only submitting to the alpha male.
No Nikki lived on her own at almost 18yrs old with a roommate
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Another fact is that this was still a 16 year old.. not really mentally in a place to make decisions with clarity of consequences that would follow, that’s where guidance comes in, especially with meth, I’ve heard it’s difficult for full adults to shake, can’t imagine 16 and living an adult lifestyle 🥹
I was once 14 and despite being a “good girl”, sometimes I lied to my parents that I’m staying at my friend’s place and instead was hanging out with a group of guys that were doing drugs and drinking. I was madly in love with one of them… now I’m 33 and I’m thankful that poor decisions didn’t ruin my life, but there’s no chance I’d understand anything back then. Just remember that you’ve also been a child one day and probably did stupid things..
@@anasi1509being 17 and changing your body would ruin a lot of future decisions as many transgenders have regretted their decision.
@@surelooksresourceful6032 well it’s their choice after all. As that shouldn’t explain or justify them being killed
Can't you see it's very lower class. The mother was clearly troubled herself.
Still too young to decide to be a girl. So many teens regret their choice to "change gender". But those promoting trans ideology aren't honest with the world about that.
No matter which side of the social/moral issue involved here you live, no person DESERVES to be assaulted or killed. Period. My heart breaks for all the families who end up dealing with the outcome of someone else's choices. Yes, it sounds like Nikki was on a self-destructive path but she didn't deserve a death sentence because of those choices. I'm glad she was her own beautiful self for as long as possible. My prayers are with mama now.
@phantagirlable you don't go looking for sex on the streets..if they both hadn't been up to such evil...well...
@phantagirlable
Really now! You're part of the problem.
He
@@QueenofNonSequiturno. Lying to people theyre intimate with is the problem. It can drive people temporarily insane.
@@surelooksresourceful6032
Give me a break. You leave. You make them leave. It's called ADULTING and having SELF CONTROL.
Lack of proper parenting here.
This young woman roaming the streets in the middle of the night?
Whrre was her parents.
Not a woman.
Its not a woman.
Many men will react very negatively towards what he did. You should be aware of that, no matter which nonsense they push.
His*
You meant, young man. Right?
Honesty up front would have kept Nikki from being in that situation. Unfortunately, people living dangerous lifestyles are more likely to die.
Very true, she was continually putting herself in high risk situations, eventually you're going to run out of luck. If only she'd been honest to the guy from the very start, she'd still be alive.
Yes. HE was.
Way to blame the victim, as if the murderer had no accountability or control.
@@maryl.2787they were both reckless
@@shellwirtful He killed her...
Violence is WRONG! However as adults we MUST make better decisions. This tragedy could have been prevented.
Although I agree with your comment, please keep in mind that this was a child that had just turned 17. She needed guidance, that probably would've come much later, but now it's too late!
@@kgotabody13 If he gotten the proper guidance from his doctors, teachers, parents (DAD INCLUDED) , and friends this would not have happened. THEY all lied to him.
Stop it, she was wasn't an adult.
@@aruglaempire2518 Found the hater. Go to therapy.
@@AnnaSusannaFinkelstein-bd7ul It isn't dress up. Get help for your obvious hate.
The mom should be charged with child neglect, endangerment, and all around abuse
A 17 year old is basically an adult. The mom was a bad mom, but legally, I disagree with you. Teenagers are responsible for their own choices.
@@RaquelSantos-hj1mq can a teenager legally buy cigarettes?
Can a teenager legally purchase beer?
Can a teenager legally obtain insurance on a vehicle without an adult?
Can a 17 year old go to the military without having an adult sign for them?
We know that the cognitive development of humans doesn’t fully develop until around 25.
Nicholas is a boy and his “mom” allowed this psychological disorder to develop into this vile behavior.
Nicholas was a boy, not a girl and it should have been addressed in the home by the parents period.
@@RaquelSantos-hj1mq legally, the law disagrees with you. at least in the US, idk about Canada. no one is basically anything. they either are or they aren't.
@RaquelSantos-hj1mq teenagers are responsible for their own choices right??? So why are people in jail for statutory rape then? You sound remildial!
10000%
Nikki had a history of hitting people her even said, “I would get called for her hitting people.” Why is it hard to believe that he freaked out on him after feeling rejected because he pushed him back and called him disgusting?
This could’ve ended up differently if Nikki was up front with who he truly was. I am not saying the guy that killed him is in the right he should’ve killed him. This is just sad the mom basically let Nikki do what he wanted she even said it. “I just let Nikki lead the way.” Kids are not supposed to lead the way as parents we are supposed to guid them and protect them. This mom didn’t do that. Truly sad
I didn't like the way 48 hours paid short shrift to Nikki's high-risk and reckless lifestyle.
Agreed
100%
The punishment for drug addiction isn't supposed to be death.
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@@calspaceit usually is, though...
a drug addict , they talking about a brilliant future 😮
Right?
Lying to someone about your true gender or misleading about it can't be ever acceptable. This can come as a huge shocker to the other person and not everyone can handle shock properly. This in no way justifies violence or crime, yet people cornered like this not always act rational. Tolerance is one thing, respecting other people and their boundries is another. These boundries are being attacked harcore in the name of tolerance these days.
This story is so sad, this baby was lost before she was lost. She had loving people, yet no guidance.
No she did not. To love means to seek the best, even at a cost.
HE.
@@aruglaempire2518 Does it really matter to you?
It's a he
@@rogerburch69 Biologically yes but does it really matter?
Why was a teenager out late at night doing drugs? Bad parenting all the way around.
I agree.
@daniellejaskula7669 ...
I've been an addict since I was 17 been in recovery for almost 2yrs and just to let u know my dad tried everything he thought he could to help me and 20yrs later it was me who finally accepted that I wanted help ... so sorry but your comment is not entirely true
Sooo.....sending your addicted CHILD to MULTIPLE REHABS that didn't stick-is now "bad parenting"-along with trying everything to get Nikki back home ??? 🤔
You obviously know NOTHING about drug addiction-especially Meth & how extremely difficult it is to stop You can beg plead borrow physically trap the person & whatever else you can think of & until they're so sick & tired of being sick & tired-will they finally surrender
A CHILD IS DEAD FFS but I realize that showing RESPECT to that HORRIFIC fact is asking entirely too much 🤡 😓
@@WhatSheSayz77 Great comment & GOOD FOR YOU !!! Hold your head high 'coz you kicked the monster 💪
I wish you love & happiness on your journey of recovery 🤗
Blessed Be 💜✌️
Blessed Be 💜✌️
@@WhatSheSayz77her comment was true in Nikki mama case
She was seventeen. No matter how you twist or turn it and whether she did or didn't make the right choices, she was a teenager. She did not deserve to die
exactly, i hate how people in the comments are criticizing her like she was an adult. she did not deserve this period.
HE
Facts
exactly. So many things were wrong but at the end of the day she was a minor and did not deserve to be murdered. The comments disgust me.
how do people mix up deserved to die and was living a risky lifestyle that would increase your odds of dying? I haven't seen one comment say she deserved to die, quit twisting people's words like you don't have the ability to understand
It is not safe to get into cars with strangers. People need to remember this as it could save your life. My mom taught me that when I was toddler age. 🥴
It should ALSO be punishable by law if someone engages in any form of sexual contact (including kissing) without informing the other person they are trans. As a man I can tell you I would suffer serious trama if I discovered I was kissing another man dressed as a woman. The mere thought makes me nauseous. I don’t care how trendy it is to be trans; the law should protect those who are misled in this way. There’s absolutely nothing acceptable about non disclosure.
Yeah I agree.
It should also be punishable to meet minors
But I agree as well
I totally agree. I am Hetero and the thought of being with a Woman pretending to be a man is nauseating. It would make any of us feel violated and traumatized. Nikki brought this on himself!!!! That was a nasty thing to do to someone.
Yes!!!!!!
He was on meth…. Yeah I believe he was acting crazy when he was rejected! Sad story for everyone involved
Nikki died because her mother wouldn’t parent her… a kid out in the middle of the night meeting random men, doing meth, skipping school… that’s on her, regardless of her gender.
Based on the comments, I believe many will agree. I can Starr by saying in no way, did the victim deserve to be killed.
With that said, multiple people, including the victim, could and should have made better decisions with simple common sense and better judgment. If transgenders or anyone else for that matter wishes to be respected and treated with care, then they should also respect and treat others with the same respect and care. By doing so, that would include being up front about sexual gender.
Just my thoughts!
Agree 100%
well, duh, that goes without saying saying...
The fact that he called the incident “humiliating.” 🤢 😢 He killed a human being. And what stands out to him is that he was embarrassed?? Sick person.
I doubt the initial shooting was over drugs...but hey, raging hormones and a belief that you're invincible can be a deadly combo. Meeting someone for casual sex is always going to be a dicey situation regardless of whether one person is transgender or not ...look at the Grace Millane case.
Was Niki hooking for drug money ?
@@mscarolynnigro That's always a possibility but still may not have been the reason for the shooting(s).
So in your professional opinion, what was the shooting a result of?
Honesty is really important. But, the guy could have walked away.
Hello friend, how are you doing?
Religious guilt
His van she wouldn't get out
He was petrified of people finding out he's gay
Respect to all transpeople and their decision to live their life the way they want and need.
There is no justification for the crime. But, being deceitful to others by not revealing their own identity is unacceptable as well.
Sure, be who you are but but be honest and open about it.
Uh, when you make excuses for your kid hitting other kids in school a bunch of times 'but it was always to defend other kids', you're a bad mom. Then drugs and truancy and doing whatever else, while underage?? And don't even start with this 'when trans people go missing they're often dead' stuff- that's the case with EVERYONE.
How hard for people to know we don’t have rights to take another person’s life.
The mom is strange.
The mum is grieving
48 Hours is the BEST 💯
Agreed!Of all the crime shows I watch ,this one is the best.None of that repetitive nonsense and over the top overacting .
There are consequences for your actions: meeting strangers online for sex - dangerous and irresponsible.
Getting shot 6 times then acting like its just another day 🙄
Murdering a person & then just acting like it's another date?
She was a teen, a troubled teen.
Rap culture 👎🏻
Where was Nikki's father in all of this?
Probably got divorce raeped and lost custody, because he didn't want his son to undergo such a procedure.
@@CBTheMechaniccan’t wait to read your novel 😂😂😂
Prison
Deadbeat dad; how novel and unheard of. 🙄
referring to your son as she didnt do him any favors. He was mentally ill.
Tell me you're a trans-phobe without telling me you're a transphobe
Remember guys, don't be too all-American, don't be the life of the party, don't light up a room and keep your shirt on your back. Follow this advice and you'll live longer.☑
Lol... it's so true. Those ppl are always murdered apparently
It’s true. I’ve never lit up a single room in my life and I’m still alive.
This victim wasn’t any of the things you listed.
How can a person do such a thing to another human being and still close their eyes at night. So heartbreaking. Meeting people on social media is very dangerous, and 99% of people lie about what they look like or who they are. You cant start a relationship on a lie.
"The term 'sexual assault' refers to sexual contact or behavior that occurs without explicit consent of the victim." A transgender engaging in sexual activity without disclosing that they are trans is sexual assault. This was self defense in response to a sexual assault followed by a physical assault. We need a law to properly define this behavior.
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That's what lawyers should had said the last statement
Yeah I agree that should not be ever hidden from a sexual partner but let’s not act like she deserved to be killed.
The guy strangled this person and we don’t know if it was self defence as he claimed. I doubt she was going to jump for the gun tbh
@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij The "but they didn't deserve to be killed" argument people like to make in these situations is always a deflection from the issue. No one is ever saying the person *deserved* to be killed. That's besides the point.
Yes!!!
"What a sick world we're living in." He was a man but they're still referring him as "her." Unbelievable 😂
That mother should be charged also!!!!
13:00 *MONTHS* went by before police located David? How does that happen this day & age? Like come on. U have his name and address. Do a stakeout. Or more. That's ridiculous.
"Oh we finally *heard from him* four months later" 😡just your prime and only suspect, that's all.
Smh
I know! How lucky he called back. How dumb.they have his name and know he works for his dad but don’t know how to find him?
So disturbing, the relationship mother/daughter. sorry to say, but if her mother would have take her mother responsibilities serious, there would maybe another result with Nikki. as we say here in switzerland: don‘t give your child always what they want, give them, WHAT THEY NEED!
Also, when you’re underage the parent has the right to have you go to rehab whether they like it or not.
The teen may throw a fit but ultimately is grateful to be introduced to sobriety.
Crap parenting. HE was Suspended, HE was addicted to drugs , social media, transgender. All relating to rubbish parenting, anyone checking where the son was at that time of night? No cause you allowed it to happen a million times before
This is why fathers are needed in a family period!
Nope. This is why at least one safe parent is needed.
That the mother phrased it as "She led the way, I followed" says alot.
Also: single mothers mostly didn't chose that past from the get-go. Many were forced to leave in order to survive. So in the end, it often is to blame on the fathers. But not them missing, but them behaving abusive.
I told that to my kids' dad.
He was too busy trying to get back with me so much that my children were able to point that out.
They eventually told me to stop trying (I drove to wherever so that he could spend whatever time with them -- up to 1k+ mile trip one way).
They used to tell their friends that he was dead before he actually passed away.
So, I'd have to disagree.
Oh.. I left the relationship with the encouragement of my children & both sides of the family due to his horrible treatment (I was the ONLY female he put his hands on).
No matter how hard I tried -- he was still absent.
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Fathers can still be in the picture & this can still happen.
Where is the murderer in your comment? Also not part of the story?
@@ernestlcolemanjrand does!
The whole mess is so sad. Yes, she was very young. She was so at risk, mom, she needed limits set by her mom. She also set the young man up for quit a surprise. You dont really believe guys are up for that ?
Sadly, some trans people get a sick kick out of "surprising people".
It was a 'he'...
Nobody deserves to be killed like that but boy this Nikki person was a lot of trouble😮
Sorry, but he can't just go out lying to others like that about something so serious.
Someone really confident in themselves would not use Meth. I’m being totally judgmental but it sounds like the mother is on pills. It makes me wonder why her high school aged child was out meeting strangers in the middle of the night? It appears that the victim had a lot of issues, even though Nikki was accepted by her family and friends, there was still more going on. A lot of times, trans children/teens think transitioning will solve their problems but it does not.
WTF, no offense, but can we stop pretending that this is some do good, regular 17 year old girl?This is the most over produced, forced episode I’ve ever seen.
Right. "Poor Nikki missed the bus because she was out till 3am doing meth just like most girls at age 16 🙄."
This episode definitely felt like that, a lot of forced propaganda and not fair coverage of both sides like they are known for. Very agenda-y
Agree
When women go missing period they are also usually found deceased not just trans women. 3:51 Not trying to be mean but if u r trans n r meeting up with someone just tell them u r trans. Some ppls egos can't handle being tricked like that honestly.
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Yep and usually them trans want to hunch so it should be a law on the books where the trans has to tell folks up front that they are trans just like there's laws on the books where you have to state your HIV/AIDS status...before you come at my comment you know what I'm trying to say
Guys should protect themselves and just ask up front if a person is trans.
Nicki Minaj should not be anyone’s idol.
TRUE! That is really SICK!
That’s a guy too.
I don't understand how you get intimate with someone and not tell them what's down there. Like, do you just hope they will not notice? Hiw angry do you have to get to strangle someone, just for that reason?
Thankyou! So many comments blaming the victim & mother, but ignoring someone who murderers instead of walks away.
This guy is acting all self righteous, yet he this righteous grown adult was okay with meeting & doing drugs with an underage teen in the middle of the night, with the intention of sleeping with them
Drugs are bad, moral of the story parenting is a full time job.
With heterosexual males, full disclosure is mandatory. If you are transgender, you owe it to the other person to disclose this before you allow yourself to become intimate with them. This is just common decency. On the other hand, he had no right to react the way he did and take someones life. This tragedy was preventable.
Don’t talk about living in your truth but willing to lie to others so that they don’t know the truth
It doesn’t matter what this poor girl did, she was the victim. No one and I do mean no one deserves to die over their gender.
37:51 just a baby…” should have been home?
Be TRUTHFUL and everything will work out just fine for EVERYONE involved.
Well don't do drugs kids and what a terrible mother this lady is. Smh
What a terrible person this Murderer was. Took someones life instead of walking away. Maybe he is the guilty one?
These people just act like it’s normal to be shot six times. “She was a tough cookie.” No, she was very lucky.
You can call him a girl all you want lady, but he is a dude. And he should have never put that other man in that position being lead on by a tricksters. It's plain wrong and it needs to stop.
Agree, you are what you're born as and always will be.
I actually feel sorry for David for being put in that situation, he should of got a much shorter sentence.
It would be best for all involved if we just all start calling them Lady Boys. Not she, or her. This way of thinking might of saved his life.
Yeah. I'm bowing out of this episode.
Y'all can have it.
😂😂
Yet they couldn't find the person who shot her 6 times 😢
Her?
Always respect other people's feelings. Suppressing something so serious is not fair.
This video made me sad and angry at the same time. This death was absolutely preventable!
Her mum was lax. She allowed too many things to go unchecked. If my child came to me with a drug problem im forcefully taking you to rehab i dont care how many times you fall of the wagon. We will keep trying.
As for the perpetrator hope he goes to jail for life
No matter what the reason Nikki was getting into fights, her mother should've stopped that. There's no reason as a preteen or teenager to be getting into physical violence for any reason, that's not the way to solve problems. It makes me sad that this mom really loved her daughter but did wrong by her anyway. It's a shame. They both needed someone on the outside who was sensible to talk sense into them both.
Love and pamper your child till age 5 then be strict parent till age 16 be their guide afterwards..... You know what your child is doing , you know what kind of ppl are around so please guide them in proper way. Getting addicted to durgs so early risking life by meeting strangers at odd time she had invited too many dangers for herself. Its sad for a parent to loss a child so early this will be a never healing injury in her life. I wish all youngsters be bit more sensible and cautious when you are going to explore new things. Same parents keep tab on your kids on what they are doing.
Mom made her move out because of Nikki's drug use. This story is more complex than is being told here.
david had so much fear and phobia.... i think he wouldnt have ever met nikki if he knew it was a man. his life changed forever too.
I don't think it as fear, but likely disgust and anger from being deceived. Seems like he snapped.
Nikki or nicolas reacting with violence is completely believable especially considering it has been suspended from school multiple times for hitting people per the mom. Also, it is a meth addict. Who knows man. But I completely believe the real victim (David) who is still alive and ended up in jail. You can be whatever you want but do not enforce it on others. Respect other peoples boundaries. Not everyone want to be oj the trendy trans train. Nikki/Nicolas parents failed it, period!
It?Wow,how needlessly unkind.
Only 19 years for killing someone? It's a joke.
Nikki's parents and friends have failed "her", supporting "her" delusion of being trans.
If you are confident in who you are then you should be totally upfront. Especially if you are about to enter a hookup or a relationship.