Land Rover LR3 Transmission Adaptation Relearn Procedure - Ep. 6

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @DiscoGruffalo
    @DiscoGruffalo Рік тому +7

    Transmission adaption reset isn't usually recommended on high mileage gearboxes on Disco 3 / LR3 in Europe. I've never heard of these relearn sequences from BMW, but hey, it can't hurt. The gearbox ECU continually monitors and adapts the valves and pressures so all the relearn does is speed that process up, but I've found resetting does make for bad shifts, but maybe that was because my gearbox was really needing a rebuild, which it got. It now has well in excess of 200,000 miles.
    If you set a live value to watch the torque convertor lock up clutch you can detect early problems as it fails to fully lock. The lock up clutch operates in all gears, unlike earlier transmissions which only locked in top or over drive. and it really isn't up to it and they fail around 150k miles. The ZF6 speed 'box doesn't have a direct drive, as 4th is just under direct and both 5th and 6th are overdrive. The IID tool live values full set will allow you to choose a selection of values which will show Engine speed, turbine speed (in the convertor, trans side), gearbox output shaft speed, gear selected and torque convertor clutch status which is interesting to watch as you really can't detect while driving how much work that gearbox system is doing, completely seamlessly.

  • @michaelmustermann6527
    @michaelmustermann6527 Рік тому +3

    I don't know what is more frustrating, having the knowledge to service that transmission like you did or having the patience to go through the relearn procedure.... holy moly that is so much to do! Can't imagine what you would have to pay to get a professional do that for you.

  • @pughster49er
    @pughster49er 10 місяців тому +3

    Just inherited a 2007 RR sport with shifting issues so will be starting this whole project, Greatful to all of your input. (Also in Vegas)

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  10 місяців тому +1

      Episode 3 should be very helpful!

    • @pughster49er
      @pughster49er 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes it is for sure. Wouldn’t be doing this without your awesome videos .

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  10 місяців тому

      Mark thank you for your kind comments.

  • @overlandi5056
    @overlandi5056 2 роки тому +3

    Hi Mike,
    This procedure is very important and, having undertaken this on my D3 (LR3), has made my gearbox very nice to drive.
    Within Land Rover SDD software, it has a complete chapter to undertake this process.
    Ivan

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you Ivan. Where can I get that SDD software?

  • @nihallee
    @nihallee Рік тому +3

    About the HVAC, there is also a motor reset procedure and a valve reset procedure in the GAP IID tool. I just performed the first (motor/flap one) on my 2016 LR4 last night and it did fix the rear/passenger ventilation. It was not blowing any air at all in the back seat before! I thought it was pretty cool that we can do that without even popping the hood up! Love the channel, keep it up from Montreal, Canada!!

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому +1

      Great tip! I’ll check if it is available on the LR3. Thank you Nicolas

  • @free2chasehappy
    @free2chasehappy Рік тому +2

    Clear and methodical! Anyone who is looking to properly relearn their transmission should definitely watch this vid!

  • @juanalberts1
    @juanalberts1 Рік тому +3

    Hi, Juan here from South Africa. Own a second hand 2007 LR3 (discovery3 we call it here) HSE 2.7 diesel V6. Have a lot of catch up maintenance to do to bring this “old girl” back to her former glory. Thanks to your great videos, it gives me more confidence to tackle issues. Please post a link to your GAP Tool, I like it’s fictionality. Again GREAT VIDEOS and very informative. Waffle on😂😂😂

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      Juan eBay link in the description of every video I use it in. Thank you for your kind comments.

  • @jerrygreene7139
    @jerrygreene7139 2 роки тому +2

    Great job Mike! To be honest, I thought this was going to be a very boring video. However, the way you did it was awesome and the time flew by. Thanks so much for the care you put into making quality videos. I really enjoyed your Jamaican accent, Mon!

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  2 роки тому

      Thank you, Jerry! I’m so glad it wasn’t boring.

  • @msschill
    @msschill 2 роки тому +2

    This was awesome to see all your hard work result in a great running Land Rover. I found your videos because I'm considering an LR3. Your channel is one of few that I look forward to seeing another new one pop up in my alerts. I appreciate what you are doing and hopefully soon you'll have the numbers to justify spending more time doing this!

  • @any0n378
    @any0n378 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video, very well done Mike! I do believe yours is the first video on how to perform the relearn on an LR3. No doubt this will help lots of LR3/Discovery3 owners.

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  2 роки тому

      I hope so!! Thank you for the information.

    • @any0n378
      @any0n378 2 роки тому +1

      @@wafflesquare You are most welcome. Very happy you could put it to use! Looking forward to the next episode in the saga!

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  2 роки тому

      Thank you.

  • @cryptopelgrim4751
    @cryptopelgrim4751 2 роки тому +1

    Im in the process of doing a full rebuild of my 2007 TDV6 XS (yes, that's the dreaded diesel) but with the same auto gearbox. This was super helpful! So thank you for the video :)

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  2 роки тому

      You are very welcome! Wish I had a diesel version to tinker with.

    • @cryptopelgrim4751
      @cryptopelgrim4751 2 роки тому +1

      @@wafflesquare honestly the V8 is far more reliable than the TDV6. However fuel economy and the fact 99 out of 100 are diesels here in Europe, I'm exited to get this beast back on the road now that the odometer has reached 350.000km.

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  2 роки тому

      Good to know.

  • @TreasureDivers
    @TreasureDivers 2 роки тому +4

    Hi Mike, greetings from the UK. Thank you so much for taking the trouble to make these videos. Owning a D3 relies on people like you helping others with these troublesome but awesome vehicles. It's obvious you are putting a great deal of time into this channel and I hope it swiftly picks up subs. One question I have is, can this procedure be carried out on a rolling road in a workshop. Finding a suitable location to carry out this in the UK would be very difficult . Best wishes David from Treasure Divers

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely David! I wish I had access to one. Thank you for your kind comments and noticing how much effort I put into my videos.

  • @EXPEDITIONROVE
    @EXPEDITIONROVE Рік тому +2

    Watched all your videos yesterday, you’re doing an awesome job!

  • @IanSRutter
    @IanSRutter Рік тому +2

    Quite an interesting procedure, and I'm thinking, if people don't have long roads, maybe jack up with heavy-duty jack stands. Weigh down with heavy weights and go slow.
    Anyway, great video and very clear.
    Love it.

  • @Dave-in-France
    @Dave-in-France Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video with detailed, easy to follow instructions.

  • @larry365
    @larry365 Рік тому +2

    Great vid. Cant wait to reset mine.. just gotta find a sutiable place to do it. Just a hint for others, you can also show throttle percentage in the live values screen.

  • @johnriley140
    @johnriley140 2 роки тому +1

    Great video got the l322 tdv8 same box big thumbs up from the uk

  • @Ebra.Z
    @Ebra.Z Рік тому +1

    I just managed to Re Program my L322 Supercharged using this video guide.
    Thank you very much.
    The results are amazing.

  • @eddiejohnhurst1
    @eddiejohnhurst1 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for the help!!!

  • @ArturinTSVR4
    @ArturinTSVR4 Рік тому +1

    Super useful video. Did this in my RR Sport after transmission oil and filter replacement and the gearbox behaviour is like night and day.

  • @bautiramada
    @bautiramada Рік тому

    Another amazing masterclass! Thanks Mike!

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      Thank you. I’m very humbled and grateful.

  • @bp9749
    @bp9749 2 роки тому +1

    Holy hell...what a crazy complicated long procedure.

  • @joeianniello
    @joeianniello Рік тому +1

    Great Video!! Thanks

  • @natehoule567
    @natehoule567 2 роки тому +2

    On the GAP tool under live values you can watch 5 different adaptation values update as you run through these adaptation procedures. From someone who has done this twice, I’d love to see what values your rig ended up settling at. Mine are between 150 and 400 but I’m not convinced they’re “good” numbers

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  2 роки тому +1

      Nate I’ll see if I can do a UA-cam short for you on the adaptation values.

  • @Raysthebars
    @Raysthebars Рік тому +1

    Thank you 🙌🏻 U r awesome 👍🏻

  • @alanottley
    @alanottley Рік тому +3

    Yikes… that’s quite the procedure. I wonder if they preload typical values into the software at the factory. I shall follow the procedure when I do mine.

  • @pughster49er
    @pughster49er 10 місяців тому +2

    Hey Mike awesome videos, I’m also in vegas just wondering where you found best to do the adaptations on the road. I’m looking to be doing this soon.
    All the best Mark.

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  10 місяців тому

      Because I live on the far south side of town, I used Las Vegas Blvd south of Saint Rose Pkwy. It becomes a very straight side road to I-15 with little traffic.

    • @pughster49er
      @pughster49er 10 місяців тому +1

      Great! I’m originally from the UK and there are lots of roads I’m unaware of. I know where you mean I’ll give it a try .

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  10 місяців тому

      @pughster49er good luck.

  • @TheSvS111
    @TheSvS111 2 роки тому +1

    Love your channel and content! Subscriber from iceland ❄️😎

  • @charles1951ful
    @charles1951ful Рік тому +1

    Hello, Please give me the link for the maintenance of the air filter for the compressor , you mentioning it at the end of the part five .Thank you , love your video

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      I really like this video: ua-cam.com/video/oK4cxojZXWI/v-deo.html

  • @nickrobertshaw9692
    @nickrobertshaw9692 Рік тому +3

    Hi Mike, great videos and as someone else said very clear and methodical.
    What were the symptoms with the trans before doing the overhaul ? , i have a 2007 TDV6 D3 here in Australia and i'm having low gear, low speed shifting issues which i believe are valve body related. From a standing start especially if facing uphill the revs flare and take a few seconds to move then clunks into gear and then when coasting below 60kph i get a soft kick in the rear feeling then it will fault and go into limp mode with a P0730 incorrect gear ration fault and occasionally a 3-4 shift algorithm failure code.
    Car has just over 220k klms and was a one owner never towed or used off road vehicle before i bought it, once into 4th gear acceleration is smooth .
    Car is anything but stock now :)

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      As stated in episode three where I serviced the transmission, it was slipping between 2nd and 3rd gear.

    • @nickrobertshaw9692
      @nickrobertshaw9692 Рік тому

      @@wafflesquare had you checked for codes before the rebuild ?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому +1

      Yes. No codes for the transmission.

  • @mcluvin1186
    @mcluvin1186 Рік тому +2

    Hey buddy, thank you for these great videos. What is the name of the scanner tool you use for programming everything that you do to the lr3 ?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      It is the GAP IID tool and there is a link in the description of every video I use it in.

  • @HugoQuipri
    @HugoQuipri Рік тому +2

    Hey thank you so much for your videos! They’ve really been helpful! Out of curiosity I dont recall hearing you mention the transmission fault codes that the GAP tool read, can you share them? Also is the Terrain Response working? Are you planning on putting Johnson Rods?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      Thank you, Hugo. There were no transmission fault codes before the complete service. It was slipping noticeably between 2nd & 3rd gear. I have no plans to install Johnson Rods.

  • @MikeTarifaArtist
    @MikeTarifaArtist Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this great Video ! i dont know if i can perform these procedures here; too many hills,no flat roads like in Nevada
    Could you make a video about the EPB?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      Servicing the parking brake is on the list but, since it is currently working properly, it isn’t a priority.

  • @aaronkeeghan6673
    @aaronkeeghan6673 Рік тому +1

    did you check the temp settings are done the same the LR3 has different zones allowing both front seats to have their own temp setting

  • @bstevanovic7250
    @bstevanovic7250 Рік тому +1

    Hi Mike. Great videos man. I've just upgraded the transmission oil pan and filter on my 5.0L LR4, replaced the seals for the valve body and changed the oil as well. I haven't done the adoptions yet. The suv feels a bit sluggish now. It doesn't have the same quick pull as it did earlier. Could this be due to the new oil in the transmission?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      That would depend on how much friction material was left on the clutch plates in the upper area of the transmission. Was the bottom of the oil pan saturated with a thick gray residue similar to the consistency of pudding or peanut butter?

  • @jesussalcido
    @jesussalcido 8 місяців тому

    It should be a transmission adaptation upgrade via Gap Tool or LAUNCH X431 to install those re-learned settings in your garage in a couple of minutes, instead all those 2 hours re-learning procedure.

  • @jamesray3920
    @jamesray3920 2 роки тому +1

    My transmission is done , and drive line hanger bearing, 2 thing still having issues the sport mode / command shift don't work it was like this before I put in transmission shop , in thinking shiftier bad or the electrical components in shiftier bad and also I have to remove console and shift knob and push white tab to get in gear , it might be the brake switch causing not going into gear , I told shop don't fix these things because I can find it , my lr3 is no spring chicken and previous owner stopped doing many simple repairs but not much information on sport mode issues for land rover , but the ones I did find was on BMW turning out to be broke wire , I keep you posted I be home Thursday evening

  • @bc9054
    @bc9054 2 роки тому +1

    Are you planning on providing a total cost when you are done?

  • @dayzservertutorialbr
    @dayzservertutorialbr 4 місяці тому

    Hello. I bought a beautiful 2005 lr3 girl this week.
    She had been out of action for over a year.
    I had problems with the ignition coils and I already solved them. Now the engine runs perfectly smooth. An error P783 started to appear. Could you tell me if the procedure you did in the previous video solves the problem? Another question is, how much would you charge me to do this work for me? I'm in Eagle Mountain - Utah. A huge thank you for the videos you make. It helps me a lot to understand my new "girl".

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  4 місяці тому +1

      I’m not a mechanic. I’m just a dad fixing up an LR3 for his daughter so I don’t offer any services.

    • @dayzservertutorialbr
      @dayzservertutorialbr 4 місяці тому +1

      @@wafflesquare Hello, it's just that you do the job so well that you could do very well with it. Lol! But thanks for the answer. A great week for us!

  • @Carsongore
    @Carsongore Рік тому +1

    Is it still shifting good? Mine jerks pretty bad in second gear sometimes. All other gears are generally okay. I suspect it’s a solenoid issue.

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      In episode three I did a complete transmission service. Then I set the new adaptations in this video. Now it shifts smooth. Really happy with the outcome.

    • @Carsongore
      @Carsongore Рік тому

      @@wafflesquare About how many miles have you put on it since then?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      Only about three hundred miles

  • @tobiasobergfoll3052
    @tobiasobergfoll3052 Рік тому +1

    Hallo Mike
    Good job I done the same procedure to my Discovery 4 (LR4)tdv6 Diesel how has the same gearbox
    Thanks
    Greetings from Germany
    👍

  • @natehoule567
    @natehoule567 Рік тому +2

    Just went through this (step 2 was difficult!) on my new transmission after having it replaced. It’s pretty good but not perfect. Is that how it should be? The shifts aren’t un-noticeable. You can tell when it shifts. There’s a slight bump or hesitation but it’s minor. Anyone else?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому +1

      I would say drive it and let the computer naturally evolve the adaptations.

  • @nephtalilucero8084
    @nephtalilucero8084 2 місяці тому +1

    So did that work? Did it properly shift?

  • @HugoQuipri
    @HugoQuipri 2 роки тому

    Hey thanks for updating on the tranny service video! So after you did the service it still jerked between 3-4? Even after replacing solenoids?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому +3

      Initially yes but, as I demonstrated in the video, after completing step one, that went away. I have driven about 200 miles since completing this procedure and the transmission has remained very smooth.

  • @menzobaird7095
    @menzobaird7095 Рік тому

    The last direction of Step 2 is not clear, am I to put the trans into 4th gear wen the vehicle coast to 50 mph , or should I let the vehicle slow to 40 mph and the shit to 4th and then accelerate to 45mph and shift to 5th to restart the Step 2 sequence?

  • @alexdickens3308
    @alexdickens3308 Рік тому +1

    What's the name of the grease for the o rings?

  • @garydeandeery
    @garydeandeery 2 місяці тому

    I have a 07 2.7 d and I’ve fitted the paddle shift steering wheel how do I open the menu to tell the car I’ve got them now

  • @CrisLobo1
    @CrisLobo1 8 місяців тому

    Hello, Waffle Square.
    A question. Can I change the electronic board of the gearbox of my LR3 4.4 2006 with another board from another LR3 without losing the configuration?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  8 місяців тому

      I have no idea.

    • @CrisLobo1
      @CrisLobo1 8 місяців тому +1

      The mechanic broke the plate and I have to change it.
      ZF does not sell to owners and I will not buy from JLR.
      I'm going to have to do what appears in your video and upload a video to UA-cam 😃

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  8 місяців тому

      @CristianWolfQuiroz I sure hope you can figure it out.

  • @yamahaking6137
    @yamahaking6137 7 місяців тому

    Hey buddy love your videos very helpful!! Question regarding suspension. So after calibration all 4 corners it failed to change the setting! Any idea why? I have recently replaced the compressor with Arnott and flashed it but I’m still getting the code C1A36-01 exhaust valve general failure ! Compressor runs for a while as soon as I hit the EAS switch amber suspension light comes on! If you could help me with this! Really appreciate it 🙏🙏

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  7 місяців тому +1

      My GAP IID tool only had a choice of two compressor firmware options: Hitachi or AMK. All our strange error codes went away with the correct firmware. Therefore I would only use one of those compressor brands.

    • @yamahaking6137
      @yamahaking6137 7 місяців тому +1

      @@wafflesquare thanks

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  7 місяців тому

      @yamahaking5963 you’re welcome.

  • @mariohanzek712
    @mariohanzek712 Рік тому

    Do you maybe know how to reset the memory of the automatic transmission in Opel (Vauxhall) Astra J, 2.0 cdti 2012? Is it possible to disable learning or adaptation and set fixed settings? The car shifts perfectly when the memory is reset, but once it learns, it doesn't work well (it jerks when shifting into 1st gear at the moment of stopping, not when starting, and only in first gear).

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  Рік тому

      No I have no experience with that.

    • @CheekyChan
      @CheekyChan 8 місяців тому +1

      I know this is an old comment but, being an American we don't have a lot of experience with Opel's or Vauxhall's as we don't get them here BUT if it's a ZF transmission it might require a software update, the 6HP transmissions were notorious for "butt kicking" when coming to a stop because they weren't originally programmed to handle wearing components.

  • @YungMar650
    @YungMar650 5 місяців тому

    Technically couldn’t you do the procedure without resetting the values ?

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  4 місяці тому

      I don’t understand your question.

    • @YungMar650
      @YungMar650 4 місяці тому +1

      @@wafflesquare I did the solenoids and filter but I didn’t reset the adaptations will the car drive normal in a couple hundred miles or is it mandatory to do the relearn procedure and reset adaptations

    • @wafflesquare
      @wafflesquare  4 місяці тому +1

      You should follow the advice by the Z26 transmission experts whose videos I linked in the description.

  • @jamesray3920
    @jamesray3920 Рік тому +1

    I am preparing to enhance my lr3 look with both the defender side mounted ladder and gear storage box it looks easy to install but sense I don't have a defender I will need to modify my install, I have already removed my factory roof rails due to my front runner roof rack, I will need to move the roof rack to the side mark the hole to drill 2 hole in roof where the old rails ran , and use nut insert for a tight secure mount and I need to drill. 2 in quarter panel with nut insert for ladder I think the gear storage box is too short to drill 2 holes in quart panel but should be OK by just using the 2 nut insert from roof because the box is not heavy like the ladder , I also install a terrafirma rear tire swing out carrier a easy installation only problem I had be the typical man I didn't rear instructions and the terrafirma instructions suck , what I learn is to on final rear install rear bumper is to completely install bumper and snap the corners before drilling hole for rear Carrier bracket or the bumper corners won't come together I had to remove the Carrier bracket to get the corner on passenger side to snap back into place or you end up breaking off the body mount that snaps the rear bumper to the corner, my hole for carrier a little bigger but no big deal but it been nicer if my hole in bumper was perfect, there is a viedo on this terrafirma rear carrier that gives some good information but he left out some key final points that would have help me or anyone installed the same carrier its so important when making a how to diy viedos not to do shorts cuts but make sure keys points of any installation not left out my lr3 is turning heads

  • @ras0ne
    @ras0ne Рік тому +3

    What a PITA. Lol

  • @ducatimikep
    @ducatimikep Рік тому +3

    That’s a ridiculous adaptation. I’m sure that’s not the process that the LR techs use prior to returning a customers car.