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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • The New Republic was convinced the remnants of the Empire were not a serious threat, until one man launched a brilliant campaign that changed the galaxy forever and enshrined the name of "Thrawn" into legend.
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  • @pasharizkyd.4998
    @pasharizkyd.4998 6 років тому +1022

    "A great tactician creates plans.
    A good tactician, recognizes the soundness of a plan presented to him. A fair tactician must see the plan succeed before offering approval." ~ *Grand Admiral Thrawn* ~

  • @Sungetsu15
    @Sungetsu15 6 років тому +1060

    “I am a warrior, Your Majesty. A warrior may retreat. He does not flee. He may lie in ambush. He does not hide. He may experience victory or defeat. He does not cease to serve.”
    -- Mitth'raw'nuruodo, “Star Wars: Thrawn”, Chapter 3 (2017) by Timothy Zahn

    • @andrewmichael9201
      @andrewmichael9201 4 роки тому +26

      First time I’ve seen his name spelled and now I get why no one can pronounce it

    • @jus7040
      @jus7040 Рік тому +3

      ​@@andrewmichael9201read the (old) Thrawn trilogy, the books are awesome!

  • @TheLoreMasterYT
    @TheLoreMasterYT 6 років тому +2254

    Beautifully edited video and summary of Grand Admiral Thrawn's life from Legends. Plus that pronunciation of his full Chiss name was beyond impressive XD

    • @TemplinInstitute
      @TemplinInstitute  6 років тому +192

      Thank ya kindly good sir! We'll have to team up on something at somepoint at sometime!

    • @TheLoreMasterYT
      @TheLoreMasterYT 6 років тому +92

      +The Templin Institute Absolutely we should!

    • @TheLoreMasterYT
      @TheLoreMasterYT 6 років тому +51

      +NRI Media Thank you!

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +18

      That would be awesome to see Lore Master and Templin Institute team up

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +8

      The Templin Institute
      Can you do a video on Anakin Skywalker Canon or Legends?

  • @ThatOneGuy46696
    @ThatOneGuy46696 6 років тому +1023

    "But it was so artistically done."

    • @admiralwalrus3963
      @admiralwalrus3963 6 років тому +20

      Erndem Sterff Prederctions too bad that was cut. RIP.

    • @tuhkakasa1917
      @tuhkakasa1917 6 років тому +19

      Classic last words

    • @wjzav1971
      @wjzav1971 6 років тому +1

      Which odd occurrences?

    • @bezerker2173
      @bezerker2173 6 років тому +11

      @@7erikgiles considering thrawn never resurfaced even when the yuzahn vong arrived he died on that bridge. How artistic that despite his egalitarian views his continuation of Darth Vader's policy of oppressing the noghiri is what led to his defeat.

    • @khalduras784
      @khalduras784 5 років тому +6

      Bezerker21 technically he never opressed the noghiri. The noghiri were given to him and all he did was have them be bodyguards with rukh being one of his most trusted officers alongside pellaeon.
      Thrawn's fault was not truly learning or comprehending the noghiri's hatred

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 6 років тому +568

    FINALLY A VIDEO ABOUT THRAWN!

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +2

      Matteo Kropej
      I know right it's awesome

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +1

      Jean-Luc Martel
      Indeed

    • @PathsUnwritten
      @PathsUnwritten 6 років тому +2

      There are dozens of Thrawn videos on every Star Wars channel. If he so important, they should put him in an actual movie instead of a disney cartoon.

    • @wesrm1
      @wesrm1 6 років тому +2

      PathsUnwritten Star Wars Rebels is canon and as important as any film in the canon. I would love to see Thrawn in a live action film though. I’ve been thinking about if there is a way to bring him into episode 9. It probably won’t happen but maybe he will get a Star Wars Story movie.

    • @PathsUnwritten
      @PathsUnwritten 6 років тому +1

      wesrm1 I’m right with you that he’s canon. However, I wish that if he’s so extremely important that every Star Wars UA-cam channel has so many dedicated videos, they should do more than an occasional cartoon appearance. Most people interested in Star Wars will only watch the movies and have no idea who all these videos are talking about.

  • @bluexdalek1997
    @bluexdalek1997 6 років тому +89

    Thrawn: In summary, a man of knowledge, tactics, and warfare, and yet a man that could understand and respect a culture's art, history, and beliefs. I personally believe Thrawn was trying to help strengthen the Galaxy for the Yuuzhan Vong, albeit under his rule.

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 2 роки тому +6

      If someone like thrawn was emperor you know that the rebellion wouldn't have formed. He was be pragmatic enough not to put the boot as hard, open enough to tell the population why, and respectful enough to keep the more vocal dissents from going full on rebel.

  • @TheIfifi
    @TheIfifi 6 років тому +239

    I can't explain just how happy I am that you used legends rather than Cannon. Thank you so much...

    • @gonzapra1
      @gonzapra1 6 років тому +7

      Same here.

    • @skau-yeong9191
      @skau-yeong9191 6 років тому +13

      Thrawn's canon legacy has only just begun.... if we know his fate after Rebels season 4's finale.

    • @khalduras784
      @khalduras784 5 років тому +15

      SK Au Yeong doesnt matter. The thrawn introduced in rebels is just ridiculously inferior to the legends version

    • @diegomarquez4340
      @diegomarquez4340 3 роки тому +3

      There is hope, he was mentioned in the Mandalorian so it is possible that he may not have been idle after his disappearance in season 4 of rebels

    • @slimshady9147
      @slimshady9147 3 роки тому +5

      I recommend you all read the Thrawn Canon Novels.

  • @superginrai8036
    @superginrai8036 6 років тому +145

    Excellently done dossier on Grand Admiral Thrawn. But then, I’ve come to expect that from the Templin Institute.
    A dossier on Warhammer 40K’s Emperor of Mankind would be very interesting. Halo’s Master Chief, Dune’s Paul Atreides, G1 Optimus Prime, DC’s Darkseid, and Lara Croft might also be good subjects.

    • @Duke_of_Petchington
      @Duke_of_Petchington 6 років тому +5

      Super Ginrai Colonel Usarker Creed for 40k

    • @hellbound_psyker
      @hellbound_psyker 6 років тому +4

      God Emperor and Paul Atreides for sure.

    • @faizalazlan1813
      @faizalazlan1813 6 років тому

      omg if they do the 40k Emperor of Mankind it would be so awesome

  • @braderickson9996
    @braderickson9996 6 років тому +36

    Oh, this is good, very good.
    Kind of makes you wish he could have pulled it off.
    Now that, would be a story.

  • @Forestmarko
    @Forestmarko 6 років тому +14

    i have to admit
    the artwork presented was truly masterful

  • @EZcompany1597
    @EZcompany1597 6 років тому +7

    Love Thrawn as a character and you guys did a great job with this video! I'd be interested to see a Dossier on Casval Rem Deikun/ Char Aznable, provided other people would be into that. Awesome video!

  • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
    @Duchess_Van_Hoof 5 років тому +1

    Have been reading and listening to the novel Thrawn, detailing his early imperial career. It is a most interesting read, he is portrayed as a Sherlock Holmes within the imperial navy. Always calm, always observing, analyzing and utterly ignorant of social conventions. He is often viewed as heartless despite his efforts to minimize civilian causalities and convince his opponents to surrender. Whilst another protagonist in the story, Arihna Pryce, is a clearer example of someone ambitious and utterly cold blooded.

  • @Xpistos510
    @Xpistos510 2 роки тому +2

    Superior intellect breeds superior ambitions. He probably just wanted to be emperor more than he was an ideologue. Pragmatists tend to not be overly ideological, so I'd bet that he was more of an opportunist than die-hard.

  • @GAdmThrawn
    @GAdmThrawn 6 років тому

    1:22 A valiant effort to pronounce my full name. It is rather difficult for humans who have had no experience with the language.
    This was a well-thought summary of my many exploits. By analyzing and exploiting the psychological weaknesses found in my opponents and combine it with information from sources, I accomplish what appears to be the impossible. It is a strategy that lead many copy from.

  • @virado255
    @virado255 6 років тому

    I'd like to see videos on the battletech universe. Theres a goldmine of content that I rarely if ever see in channels like this.

  • @seantaylor4595
    @seantaylor4595 6 років тому +1

    I've watched everyone of your guys amazing videos but this has to be my favorite!! Great job!

  • @banzeyegaming2234
    @banzeyegaming2234 4 роки тому +5

    Thrawn: *Makes brilliant tactics and strategies from observing an entire species culture through their art*
    Star Wars fans: “...” *Starts studying art intensely*

    • @banzeyegaming2234
      @banzeyegaming2234 3 роки тому +1

      @@michaelandreipalon359 Hey, never hurts to try lol

  • @gaslight8879
    @gaslight8879 6 років тому

    Thrawn ladies and gentlemen the Hannibal of Star Wars. I am glad that my favorite star wars character was given a video by you guys. Keep up the good work.

  • @arklestudios
    @arklestudios 6 років тому +6

    If Star Trek B-canon is acceptable, a Dossier on Captain Mackenzie Calhoun would be awesome.

  • @johnohara4788
    @johnohara4788 5 років тому +1

    This, this is what the first order should have been a dark parody of the rebellion

  • @LordofDarknessX
    @LordofDarknessX 4 роки тому

    You honor me so with this most epic & impressive tribute.....

  • @leroyjenkins5765
    @leroyjenkins5765 4 роки тому +1

    He is basically the field marshal rommel the desert fox in ww2

  • @QalOrt
    @QalOrt 6 років тому +7

    Will an Honor Harrington Dossier ever happen?

    • @VTX00128
      @VTX00128 6 років тому +1

      Second for Lady Dame Honor Stephanie Alexander-Harrington, Steadholder Harrington, Duchess Harrington, Countess White Haven, Fleet Admiral Harrington (RMN) Fleet Admiral Harrington (GSN) "Dances on Clouds" "The Salamander"

  • @THEAdmiralXizor
    @THEAdmiralXizor 6 років тому

    Amazing video on the man who likely saved Star Wars between episodes 6 and 1, and linchpin for almost all of the (successful) Expanded Universe...
    Next: Spock Prime, please!

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader999 2 роки тому +1

    Considering the fact that he's still alive by the time of The Mandalorian, and his role in the old canon, Thrawn is basically Karl Donitz in space, mixed with Alexander the Great and Sherlock Holmes.

  • @ungooy
    @ungooy 6 років тому

    If it hasn't already been suggested, perhaps Revan could be next? His(Or her, if you decide to leave it ambiguous and not include the events from TOR) achievements are on the levels of Thrawn, and greater in some respects. He turned a Republic that had been losing a war into a force that forced the Mandalorians back and pushed them to the brink of extinction. An extinction that was prevented by his hand as well. He then turned on that Republic by finding the Star Forge, something which likely happened before his involvement in the Mandalorian Wars, or shortly thereafter. Again, though not at the head of a vast military, he was able to bring the Empire that he had crafted, which was on its way to conquering the Galaxy, down to its knees by assisting in the Destruction of the Star Forge. And later on, (if you include the events from TOR), he was able to unite two warring nations, which had been in a Cold War against each other for years, against him because they feared his power and because of what he had accomplished.

  • @iratepirate3896
    @iratepirate3896 6 років тому

    Outbound Flight and Survivor's Quest are underrated books.

  • @Kinepho
    @Kinepho 6 років тому

    I would have gladly served under his leadership. The man was beyond brilliant.

  • @CL-no3si
    @CL-no3si 6 років тому

    Great video. A fantastic exploration of Thrawn and his legacy.

  • @judsonbuckner8590
    @judsonbuckner8590 6 років тому

    Fantastic video, little disappointed I didn't find your channel earlier.

  • @cjljianlang8240
    @cjljianlang8240 Рік тому +1

    7:31connect esoteric and obscure bits of data together into a much larger picture

  • @NEWDOR1A
    @NEWDOR1A 5 років тому +2

    If Thrawn leads, I will follow!

  • @adammiller2684
    @adammiller2684 6 років тому

    A video on Varian Wrynn, King of Stormwind and High King of the Alliance, perhaps?

  • @Daggersong
    @Daggersong 6 років тому

    I love this Video.. In the new canon his Goals are very clear. The Chiss knew of the Evils in the galaxy ( Yuuzhan Vong ) IF this is who they go with as the Evils he talks about. When the clone wars where over the Chiss looked at who was still standing the Empire and had a choice to make Team up with them and fight the EVIL or weaken it as to make it a more easy target for the evil so that they could have more time to figure out how best to destroy this evil. Again i still loved the video

    • @Daggersong
      @Daggersong 6 років тому

      I did not notice the LEGENDS tag. :) but still i LOVED this video

  • @InFamou5Killer
    @InFamou5Killer 6 років тому

    RIP Thrawn you were betrayed but you will be avenged and we will reform the empire in your name

  • @EvoSwatch
    @EvoSwatch 6 років тому +1

    "i studied the art of war, work to perfect it"

  • @TheLPRnetwork
    @TheLPRnetwork 6 років тому +5

    You guys should really do the *United Federation of Nations* from code geass. ^_^
    or at least the Black Knights or Britannia Empire

  • @ronaldmartin6926
    @ronaldmartin6926 2 роки тому +1

    Well put together video

  • @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
    @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent 4 роки тому

    I would gladly serve under Grand Admiral Thrawn. Not to mention probably present him some art pieces to get a opinion of.

  • @DrRenegade
    @DrRenegade 6 років тому +1

    It would be great to see a video about the Chiss Ascendancy.

  • @R005TERILLUSION
    @R005TERILLUSION 6 років тому +1

    Best Character in all Star Wars

  • @Bajicoy
    @Bajicoy 6 років тому

    We need a Thrawn series

  • @HB600
    @HB600 6 років тому

    Pidge form Voltron: Legendary Defender would be an interesting character to have on Dossier!

  • @lkvideos7181
    @lkvideos7181 6 років тому +2

    In Legends Thrawn outsmarts and outmatches the entire New Republic with his small fleet ....
    In Rebels Thrawn loses to some local rebel bois
    GG 11 / 10

    • @andreasb.1606
      @andreasb.1606 6 років тому +2

      and their space whale friends*
      :/ people ask why some of us hate Disney at times...

  • @ImperialistFan
    @ImperialistFan Рік тому

    I can’t wait to see him I the Ashoka series!

  • @WakeRoberts
    @WakeRoberts 6 років тому

    Tremendous video!
    I humbly request: Ambassador Spock (Star Trek)

  • @lorenzosaavedra648
    @lorenzosaavedra648 6 років тому

    Oh man you made a video on my favourite space Napoleon

  • @chairforce1636
    @chairforce1636 6 років тому

    Would be awesome if they gave him a movie

  • @ryandorgan1803
    @ryandorgan1803 6 років тому

    Legends Dossier on Captain Jacob Keyes, Captain Benjamin Sisko, Spartan John/117.

  • @XavierMurphy-sg3vp
    @XavierMurphy-sg3vp 6 місяців тому

    America, North, Seraphiel . "Ghost" . Azrael, Tekhion

  • @Klarud
    @Klarud 6 років тому +1

    I prefer this Legends Thrawn over the Disney Thrawn, can we please get Dossier of Legends Gilad Pellaeon?

  • @ktkace
    @ktkace Рік тому +1

    Would love to work under him imho!

  • @pixelated_dragon4880
    @pixelated_dragon4880 6 років тому

    A Geralt of Rivia Dossier
    btw great video

  • @1228carlito
    @1228carlito 6 років тому

    Thrawn sounds like a futuristic Sun Tzu

  • @ribeirodasilvalopesjoaomar5269
    @ribeirodasilvalopesjoaomar5269 6 років тому +1

    If Thrawn had been at the battle of Endor the rebellion wouldn't have stood, not in space and not on Endor.

  • @white0thunderwhite0thunder71

    How can a man who served as an admiral within an evil galactic empire be so likable and admirable?
    Because unlike the rest of the empire, he alone was competent.

  • @williammagoffin9324
    @williammagoffin9324 6 років тому

    Thrawn, the Erwin Rommel of Star Wars; sure he's fighting for an evil regime but you just can't help pulling for that guy every step of the way hoping he succeeds.
    As for recommendations for additional episodes of Dossier: Lady Dame Honor Harrington.

  • @dencamp6685
    @dencamp6685 5 місяців тому +1

    Long Live The Empire.

  • @BoldOne8760
    @BoldOne8760 6 років тому

    Me : Grand Admiral Thrawn
    Google : Did you mean *God* ?

  • @AleksandrPodyachev
    @AleksandrPodyachev 6 років тому

    the Terran Empire From Star Trek!

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 6 років тому +1

    He was the best admiral in the star wars universe.

  • @Tarathiel123
    @Tarathiel123 6 років тому

    Eldrad Ulthruan next! The only psyker greater than the emperor!

  • @laisphinto6372
    @laisphinto6372 3 роки тому

    What is sad that thrawn overshadows pellaelon who didn't get a spotlight only a lame name drop in rebels,because in the thrawn trilogy they were a perfect duo he learned under thrawn and even came up with strategies thrawn didn't think off and also had concerns about thrawns tactics that turned out to be fatal like the highly unstable jedi clone cbaoth.

  • @KRENxOFxEVIL
    @KRENxOFxEVIL 6 років тому

    I have subscribed a while ago and I love every one of the videos I've seen so far. I would love it if you did a dossier on 343 Guilty Spark (if you haven't already. I'm still binging your videos.). Not many people know who he was before that name was given to him. I think it is interesting.

  • @pedrosugliano9762
    @pedrosugliano9762 4 роки тому

    Amazing, loved it

  • @okwaho5316
    @okwaho5316 6 років тому

    I'd love to see a what if for Thrawn winning

  • @MoriartySan
    @MoriartySan 6 років тому

    Hope they do a stand alone film about him

  • @presidentwoodrow
    @presidentwoodrow 6 років тому

    I do not require glory, only results for my Emperor

  • @soffren
    @soffren 2 роки тому

    WE COULDA HAD THREE MOVIES ABOUT THIS MAN BUT LOOK WHAT WE GOT!!!!
    OH THE HUMANITY
    SIX STAR DESTROYERS AND A DREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM

  • @tronmaster5704
    @tronmaster5704 6 років тому

    A subject for a new episode of Dossier, is General RAAM from Gears Of War.

  • @ventusprime
    @ventusprime 2 роки тому

    1:27 Grand Admiral :D

  • @matthewfritz4629
    @matthewfritz4629 6 років тому

    This was a excellent video. In the next dossier could you do James Raynor from Starcraft

  • @alexander9703
    @alexander9703 5 років тому +1

    I don't think being in the Unknown Regions saved Thrawn from sharing the Emperor's fate. Had Thrawn been at Endor the Rebels would not have won. Thrawn would have known about the Ewoks, for example, and they would never have caught him off guard. Ironically the Empire could have won at Endor, and the Emperor still have been killed as they are largely separate events.

  • @MrGnoblar
    @MrGnoblar 6 років тому

    A true hero.

  • @chrisconnors7327
    @chrisconnors7327 Рік тому +1

    New republic grand Admiral thrawn

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 6 років тому

    But he couldn't see the death blow aboard his own bridge... tragic.

  • @kevingoodwin9278
    @kevingoodwin9278 5 років тому

    A tribute to a great man:'( you have truly onered his mamery

  • @BitoyV3
    @BitoyV3 6 років тому

    5 dislikes from the surviving Ghost crew members

  • @Azaarv
    @Azaarv 4 роки тому

    Love this

  • @jillianandhaime60
    @jillianandhaime60 6 років тому

    The Brotherhood of Steel Fallout

  • @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
    @SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 4 роки тому

    As flawed as the Disney canon is they have done Thrawn justice

  • @boxcarz
    @boxcarz 5 років тому

    So, Napoleon in space.

  • @butterball33
    @butterball33 2 роки тому

    They did Thrawn dirty in Legends and don't even recognize him in canon. :(

  • @Rocketman822
    @Rocketman822 6 років тому

    You need to do Organization XIII from kingdom hearts

  • @kreigdernier9553
    @kreigdernier9553 6 років тому

    He can outmaneuver the egos and ambitions of an entire galaxy but misses a knife to the chest. SMH

  • @jimmyseaver3647
    @jimmyseaver3647 6 років тому +3001

    “To defeat an enemy, you must get to _know_ them. Not just their weapons and battle tactics, but their history, philosophy, _art."_

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +4

      Jimmy Seaver
      Nice 🐈 picture 👍

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +2

      Jean-Luc Martel
      Damn

    • @USSAnimeNCC-
      @USSAnimeNCC- 6 років тому +20

      Jimmy Seaver know your enemy and know yourself and in 100 batle you will never be defeated - sun tzu

    • @jimmyseaver3647
      @jimmyseaver3647 6 років тому

      Tim Bartsch Well, it was either that or find an anime avatar, lol.

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +1

      Jimmy Seaver
      I'm a 🐈 guy I like 🐈

  • @TheExecutorr
    @TheExecutorr 6 років тому +353

    If there is one man worthy to claim the emperor's throne after Palpatine and Vader died, it is Thrawn.

    • @vissermatt1058
      @vissermatt1058 3 роки тому +11

      iono, i could be mistaken... but he wasn't aiming for emperor? I'm pretty sure he had concerns and actually disliked MANY things the Empire was doing, but his logic dictated that they had purpose as well as capability. when you also bring in the fact that he was semi protecting his species and culture, you can almost think of him as a loyal but rogue knight. even once his lord had fallen, he still stood for his oath and purpose.

    • @moriarty3013
      @moriarty3013 3 роки тому +7

      @@vissermatt1058 noticed he said worthy.

    • @kaijudude_
      @kaijudude_ Рік тому +7

      I could see Thrawn changing the Empire to allow non humans in the ranks. Seeing as the Empire was a tool to keep the galaxy together similar to Tito in the former Yugoslavia.

  • @jackdoherty5841
    @jackdoherty5841 3 роки тому +87

    "a grand plan to prepare the galaxy for the Yuuzhan Vong?"
    "the safeguarding of his people?"
    "or just another opertunistic warlord?"
    Me- why not all of the above?

  • @alelder3479
    @alelder3479 6 років тому +2607

    I would serve the empire only under grand admiral thrawn thumbs up if you agree!

    • @darthfenrir4892
      @darthfenrir4892 6 років тому +128

      AL Elder Hail Grand Admiral Thrawn. True heir to the Empire.

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 6 років тому +131

      I hate the Empire, but if Thrawn led it, I'd follow him.

    • @George-Hawthorne
      @George-Hawthorne 6 років тому +66

      ALL HAIL EMPEROR THRAWN

    • @boxman9033
      @boxman9033 6 років тому +35

      FOR THE EMPIRE!

    • @cameronpearce5943
      @cameronpearce5943 6 років тому +14

      He’s a jerk, I saw him steal some kids finger painting!!

  • @muffintrooper6662
    @muffintrooper6662 6 років тому +799

    Thrawn is the Caesar of Star Wars, he was a great tactician, but was later liked by an former ally

    • @aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337
      @aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337 4 роки тому +39

      Agreed, probs the only person in Legends Timeline who could've rebuilt the Empire to its FULL Glory

    • @sword4005
      @sword4005 3 роки тому +30

      @@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337 it would have reached new heights under thrawn the failing of palpatine and the sith would have been washed away

    • @blueberry1vom1t
      @blueberry1vom1t 3 роки тому +13

      I am going to assume your autocorrect changed killed to liked.

    • @lightypower3412
      @lightypower3412 3 роки тому +16

      Nah nah nah. Caesar got a decent start.
      THRAWN WAS AURALIANVS BVT BLVE. Even stabbed while campaigning in his HQ...

    • @Bloodstar582
      @Bloodstar582 3 роки тому +2

      Maybe like Napoleon or Alexander the great

  • @Diluted37
    @Diluted37 6 років тому +578

    Let me get this straight... The Rebellion spends years performing hit-and-run attacks on the Empire keeping them off balance slowly gaining strength until the Empire fell, and then Thrawn takes his 6 Star Destroyers and performing hit-and-run attacks on the Republic keeping them off balance and gaining more strength. Huh, good ol' Thrawn giving the enemy a taste of their own medicine.
    And with the stab to the chest, Nelson much? Except Nelson won in the end, but he died.

    • @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
      @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent 4 роки тому +119

      Problem was the creators of Thrawn realized they literally made a true anti-hero who despite worked for the Empire was a respectable, well popular and extremely efficient officer who actually was a shining example of what the Empire promoted it was supposed to be.
      Thrawn was intelligent, respectful, a real soldier and officer, he was SW Rommell and literally by his own hand nearly defeated utterly the New Republic by strategy and cunning. If he took control he likely would have been loved by both Imperial citizens and the newly re-absorbed new republic citizens. That's why the writers offed him or terminated his character shield. He became too powerful of a character that he threatened Jedi and Sith Characters who were supposed to be near demi-gods and here a Imperial officer who was near human with no Force powers was curb-stomping everyone and he had less resources to work with.

    • @wolfu597
      @wolfu597 4 роки тому +27

      Those 6 ISD's weren't the only vessels available to Thrawn.
      In the novel "Dark Force Rising", Thrawn come's into possession of the Katana fleet. Which consist of 200 pre-Clone wars Dreadnought's, whose exact position had remained unknown until then. The New Republic managed to capture 15 of those ships, but Thrawn has already escaped with the rest.
      But he's already at war with the New Republic, so how will he find enough crew member's to man all these ships?
      The answer: Emperor Palpatine's underground cloning facility on the planet of Wayland.

    • @electricfeverx976
      @electricfeverx976 3 роки тому +22

      @@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Timothy Zahn is the sole writer of Thrawn's legacy, not counting beta readers and grammar checkers. He did acknowledge that Thrawn had grown too powerful in the context of the story, especially considering his only weakness has always been politics. So him dying was the only way they could stop him from steam rolling the entire New Republic, and becoming the new head honcho of the franchise.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 3 роки тому +6

      The Rebels were designed with fighting large enemy armies in mind, they were not designed to fight hit-and-run foes. Thrawn was a genius in that regard.

    • @donnovandalusong266
      @donnovandalusong266 3 роки тому +3

      @@electricfeverx976 damn even the author is afraid of him. Imagine how stable the Empire would be if he knows politics also.

  • @doom7ish
    @doom7ish 6 років тому +210

    Grand Admiral Thrawn, the most badass Commander of the empire.

  • @ZelumPendragon
    @ZelumPendragon Рік тому +18

    THIS is my Thrawn...

  • @HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV
    @HistoryandOtherStuffwithBV 6 років тому +500

    If the Empire was led by Thrawn from the get-go, I'll have troubles trying to decide who would I cheer for.

    • @krebbo8428
      @krebbo8428 4 роки тому +76

      Most likly the rebelion wouldbt happen at all, cause thrawn isnt a tyrant

    • @Sealhunt
      @Sealhunt 4 роки тому +43

      If the Empire had been led by Thrawn from the get-go, he would have destroyed the rebellion before it ever really got started! Imagine if he had been force sensitive?

    • @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
      @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent 4 роки тому +47

      If Thrawn led the Empire racism would have almost disappeared given Thrawn himself is a near human alien. He probably would have it as a authoritarian government perhaps similar to the GTU, if anything that's exactly the type of government he would approve of. Rebellions would be more difficult to rise up if people are comfortable and safe with a future to look forward to even if the government they are in is a little strict but not a overbearing monster. Any Rebellion that did rise up likely would have been crushed long before becoming a major threat and Thrawn likely would have used less violent means to subduing a rebellion if possible knowing violent action could create more. Education likely would be valued especially so. I can Imagine Thrawn pushing the arts and promotion of better work enviorments :P

    • @julonkrutor4649
      @julonkrutor4649 3 роки тому +8

      @@Sealhunt If he where force sensitive, that would be an obstacle for him. The Force is never neutral. It allways trys to tip to one side. As a Sith, Thrawn would be to brutal to be a good tactican. As a Jedi, he would care to much for his troops.
      The only mistake he made was, that he didn´t gave the Noghri the means to rebuild there planet. If he would have done that - maybe by telling them, that this new gear is better - they would have never betrayed him. Even if Laia landed there as she did, they would have stayed loyal since Tharwn gave them the means to rebuild there planet. I never understood why he did not do that.

    • @operationstratos1013
      @operationstratos1013 3 роки тому +6

      Had Thrawn run the Empire from the start, the rebellion won’t even be necessary.

  • @flynnstone3133
    @flynnstone3133 6 років тому +177

    Now this is something I’ve been waiting for for a long... long time.

  • @CunkGungler
    @CunkGungler 6 років тому +262

    Thrawn is one of those great fictional characters that doesn't just feel like a compelling real person, but stands as an avatar of some philosophy and ideal which truly sets the mind awander. I look forward to what else the Templin Institute makes videos on

    • @Lukeclout
      @Lukeclout 2 роки тому

      10th man rule Israel

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman 2 роки тому +1

      @@Lukeclout What

    • @Lukeclout
      @Lukeclout 2 роки тому +1

      @@DogeickBateman It’s a doctrine. Always consider alternative narratives, options and methodologies. It’s what effective people(like Thrawn) in real life does.

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman 2 роки тому +1

      @@Lukeclout Ah now I know what you're talking about. Heard it was devised in response to the 1973 War after intelligence failed on that one.

    • @Lukeclout
      @Lukeclout 2 роки тому +1

      @@DogeickBateman It was. In real life to achieve military success akin to that of Thrawn, it’s not usually just 1 smart person/leader. But a group of dynamic leaders operating in a disciplined yet highly flexible team. Israeli intelligence / IDF did pioneer such methodologies.

  • @justafaniv1097
    @justafaniv1097 6 років тому +417

    I remember reading the Thrawn trilogy a few years back and loving it. Thrawn was a great antagonist that more recent stories have had a hard time living up to.
    What I think is unique about Thrawn though is that while Star Wars, both legends and new canon, is rampant with threat escalation (The Empire had a moon sized planet killer? Well now the First Order has a Planet sized system destroyer!), Thrawn was in many ways a de-escalation. He didn't have any special superweapons or a giant fleet from nowhere, and was in many ways a dark mirror of the Rebellion, resource deprived and fighting a far larger opponent, but making up for his shortcomings with better strategies and daring plans.
    Hopefully they can bring some of that back in the new canon. That Timothy Zhan has been given back control of Thrawn gives me hope, but beyond that I hope that Star Wars in general moves down a path that doesn't try to copy the past, only bigger, but instead focuses on compelling characters with well-explained motivations.

    • @connorgolden4
      @connorgolden4 6 років тому +21

      Sadly that's not the path canon is going down.

    • @owenparris7490
      @owenparris7490 6 років тому +3

      Canon Thrawn is amazing

    • @justafaniv1097
      @justafaniv1097 6 років тому +31

      I think he is more closely analogous to Hannibal. Both were genius commander who were ultimately fighting for the losing side and dying empires, but were still able to achieve crushing victories against numerically superior opponents, while still losing the war.

    • @wjzav1971
      @wjzav1971 6 років тому +12

      Or more like Napoleon. Someone rising against all odds out of left field, in a time where the ancien regime has been crushed, to reestablish a new one.

    • @knotsnights6940
      @knotsnights6940 6 років тому +2

      Well said! Thrawn is the single best Star Wars character, and very high on the list of best characters of all time.

  • @Waldohasaskit210
    @Waldohasaskit210 6 років тому +203

    The enemy to brilliant and complex to be in a Disney movie

    • @luxeternity
      @luxeternity 6 років тому +26

      Travis Wald now being replaced by total knucklehead and incompetent wannabe known as first order 😂😂

    • @mezarisage6055
      @mezarisage6055 6 років тому +19

      To be fair they did put him in star wars rebels and he was pretty damn good

    • @BoostedMonkey05
      @BoostedMonkey05 5 років тому +4

      @@mezarisage6055 still humiliated by a brat

    • @leonedralev3776
      @leonedralev3776 5 років тому +9

      Wouldn't it be great that instead of force hologram Luke it was Thrawn and his imperial faction who came and aided the Resistance at Crait? And the last shot would be the remaining Resistance looking through a window aboard a stardestroyer, their fate still unknown kinda like the ending of ESB.

    • @electricfeverx976
      @electricfeverx976 3 роки тому

      @@mezarisage6055 read the novels, he wasn't a joke or a stone cold killer in that. Hell the dude even forgave, and got some cadets who ambushed and tried to assault him a promotion without them knowing it was him. He wasn't the kind of guy who would bombard a city or blow up a civilian to make a point, he was a honourable and fair warrior who only killed with purpose, and avoided bloodshed when possible.

  • @captainmilano5279
    @captainmilano5279 6 років тому +159

    Thanks for this great video.

    • @nickkooij5037
      @nickkooij5037 6 років тому +10

      Grandadmiral Mitth'raw'nuruodo you deserved it sir *salutes*

  • @luigithegreat1331
    @luigithegreat1331 6 років тому +141

    How does this channel only have 81k subscribers
    The quality is top notch

    • @ThatOneGuy46696
      @ThatOneGuy46696 6 років тому +12

      81k is pretty good for a 5 month-old.

    • @achillesa5894
      @achillesa5894 6 років тому +3

      They've grown really fast. A few months ago the channel didn't even exist. I remember subbing right after the channel was created and had less than 1000 subs.

    • @jimmyseaver3647
      @jimmyseaver3647 6 років тому +2

      Yeah, they’re only a few months old, but are growing quite rapidly. Lore channels have started to take off. Spacedock, Eckhart’s Ladder, Lore Reloaded, Star Wars Explained- there’s proven to be a massive audience for them. We’re at a point in fandom history where the information is as prevalant as it is readily accessible, and these videos are perfect for both introducing people to a series (when my mother began looking into Stranger Things, the first thing I did was show her the Institute’s video on Hawkins Nat’l Laborotory), and for brushing up, either because the franchise you like is making new content, or maybe just to keep your memory freshed.
      Besides, if you wish to see the channel grow, what better way to promote stuff you like than through word of mouth. Tell your friends and family who you figure would be interested IRL, on Twitter/Facebook, on forums and Discord, or whatever other means you deem fit.

    • @sigilumsanctum2105
      @sigilumsanctum2105 6 років тому +1

      Thats why we must help it grow.

    • @bladedninja8853
      @bladedninja8853 3 роки тому +1

      Comment aged well