A few years ago me and some work friends were discussing The Star Wars Universe (around the time the daisy trilogy was starting) most secretive and dangerous “villains” I mentioned thrawn and gave my input on how darth jar jar or thrawn would be the next menacing force. They didn’t know who I was talking about
Probably because they shit on the prequels and think the sequels are the height of Star Wars. You’d be surprised how many think The Clone Wars animated is where SW got off the ground and know nothing about the lore that came before.
Great breakdown, I love the inclusion of the original version of Thrawn. The one I remember. The one who's reason for an Empire was to defend against the oncoming Vong. Palpatine and Vader didn't explore the intricacies of the dark side because that wasn't either of their goals. Vader wanted order, while Ol Sheev just loved the hell out of being evil and being in control of everything. They didn't have the drive to explore the dark side like Bane, Revan of Caedus. They only used it for their own means, which worked for a long time until it didn't.
The EU Thrawn, which was cannon until Disney deemed otherwise, was much more ruthless and cunning than any Star Wars character then and now. Thrawn did kill his subordinates, but only rarely, and only after they repeatedly failed tremendously. In the EU, Thrawn told Pellion that he had met Anakin Skywalker during the clone wars but never said how and where. He also said his brother died during the outbound flight incident. Thrawn had an entire race enslaved, called the Nogrie. In the old cannon, Thrawn was right on the verge of destroying the New Republic, but he was betrayed by Ruuk and killed by him. Pellion, seeing this happen, ordered a withdrawal of all Imperial forces. He knew that without Thrawn, the Empire would not be able to prevail.
Only issue I have with Thrawn is they gave him a belly in Ahsoka which makes no sense as he trained against elite empire droids. He is a tall and athletic type of individual not a shorter and pudgy type of officer.
TBF,he is a bit older now,maybe he can't move as much as before,leading to a decrease in physical activity. While not adjusting his diet led to him growing a bit of belly?
Older or not he looks nothing like Thrawn the character should be done as CGI and modelled after the OG Thrawn he should look just like the Thumbnail but no this is Disney but again all of their products are trash
@@ΠαναγιωτηςΑγγελ I agree it’s Disney they don’t want positive male role models or anything to do with masculinity because they play politics, but most of how he looks is correct minus he is suppose to be a fairly tall and impressionable character slightly intimidating as well.
@@gammawoody9715 Indeed instead he is just blue painted Lars Mikelensen i would love the actor to take the part but not in this way but with use of CGI so they can model Thrawn as he should look like and having Lars making the expressions i mean don't you agree that the video thumbnail is exactly what Thrawn should look like in live action
Rebellion has been happening since the very beginning. It will absorb your entire life. I recommend retirement to the library and hospital waiting rooms for rest and relaxation .
Here is the question to anyone in the comments. Do you all think that we would see the tie defender on grand Admiral Thrawn’s ship the camera in episode seven or episode eight of Asoka
There is an issue that has to be remedied with any hyper intelligent character who is doomed to fail. The character is only intelligent as the author. So it becomes difficult for the author to figure out how to outsmart them. There are ways to get around this but it will be interesting to see if Disney's Thrawn falls into the same problems that happened to shows like Death Note.
Thank you I finally feel justified in questioning why the Republic needed to be reformed at all. It fell due to corruption in fighting and decadents so why bring it back?
It begs to question...why did THRAWN get ROOK to kill the weapons officer for "NOT" knowing what LUKE would do? When Luke was pulled in to his ship from a tractor beam but LUKE ESCAPED...but Luke damaged his engines in the long run.
I don't think they could have simply followed the X wings, there was no hyperspace tracking yet.. but with the defenders they could do the same strike and run tactics that the rebellions do.
Because thrown was so different from the rest of the imperial machine I think it's a shame we could never see a period where he gets to rule the empire. Now I'm not saying he's right but with his generally understanding nature he would have been an interestingly complex emperor show by the examp!e the Jedi set by leaving him to his own devices in legends. Not that he would've been a monster it sometimes a dangerously tempting one at that.
You need balance things two ways one or the other, yes or no. Premtive strike expands control and order yet to over rule Adam is preemptive strike against you and defeat.
Okay. TWO things bro, one, Grand Admiral Zarrin (sp?) Designed and created the Tie Defender. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in Tie Figher. That ol Dos game I should say. And second, was it ever confirmed that Ezra Bridger was in fact promoted to Jedi Knight? As far as I am aware, he's still a Padawan. A good one at that, but even so.
It's one of the Canon changes. They are essentially the same in terms of galactic threat, but go about it differently. The main point is that Thrawn is combating a greater evil and needs the empire to do it
@@RoboKingdom really wish we could have seen the Vong. Too bad Disney is like a reverse King with no cloths on. Everyone keeps telling their head right and they're all like "nah it's fine".
The Chiss are isolationists that don't believe in pre-emptive strikes. Plus they don't want to split their forces as they're embroiled in a war far worse than Empire vs. Rebels. Edit: It's possible the Chiss invent some kind of long range communication device while he is in exile. It would explain how Thrawn could communicate to build the Eye of Sion.
Can not kill Satan or anyone he loves , can not be a God ruling over scorpians. When sime ine stands up and says they are God we all die, guess who your daddy is ?
Even if the Death ⭐ was powerful enough to Destroy whole planets in one shot. Its cant be in 2 STRATEGIC LOCATIONS AT ONE TIME. AND ALSO....the deflector shield has to be balls to the wall...in terms of PLANETARY SHRAPNEL AND SHOCKWAVES. And just guessing.scale wise.the Death Star has to be about the SIZE OF DETROIT.
Wait something doesn't add up You said the in canon The chiefs were manipulated by telepaths into the civil war.... However that fouled in the second book of a thrawn ascendancy.... And thus jixtus Began his own attempt To start a civil war however thrawn fail to And it was at that point bacy and thrawn Agreed that he should be exiled in order to spy on this new empire... And see if they could be the valuable ally thrawn was looking for Something he had decided the republic was not....... I thought that was the canon Along with the Trilogy that follows it... That would technically affect they came out first
We dont have twenty one years to spare. Yet I will spare Luke for time we di not have. Luke us the father if Leahs twins. She us in orison .I hope and were celebrating her baby shower
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDD...as long as Thrawn has them ANIMALS ON HIS SHOULDERS......PALPATINE AND VADER BE DAMMED. BUT I WONDER DID PALPATINE AND VADER KNOW ABOUT THE CREATURES. OR MAYBE THEY DID....THATS WHY THEY NEVER INTIMIDATED HIM.
Don't trust Kathleen. The Force is female now. Did u see Ezra riding bitch with Sabine on that giant rat horse. Disney Star Wars is total trash. And so is Dave. It's over.
Thrawn is a great character but he would not have stayed loyal to the empire. He was diametrically opposed to everything the empire was and so he may not have joined the rebellion but he wouldn't have stayed with the empire.
If Thrawn was motivated by saving his people and the galaxy against the Von. Why did he not just join the rebellion, surely he could have been a leader in the new republic and working with the Jedi he would have a better chance of winning????
Take Luke Skywalker. I just took his head, hopefully the next in species is clean and good DNA. If there is a next I e. We looking at Millie in Charles house ? I'm looking in to it.
I feel like star wars under disney is currently very left leaning instead of centerist as it should. So I don't think they'll explore this aspect of Thrawn. But merely paint him as a competent and efficient commander. Essentially the "genius" archetype where he predicts things. But the reasoning or logic is not shown. But merely the fact that "he's just that smart." And I feel like his soldiers won't merely be loyal but fanatical in a cult like way.
Ever read the books? Ever hear of Timothy Zahn? Crazy that KK and Disney can’t get it right. Not just Thrawn but many others. It is already written! But they are so arrogant they think they can do it better! Fools! It is already written! Read or listen to all the Thrawn books!!!
Thrawn has to be my favorite imperial villian, if he was allowed to command the imperial military he'd have crushed the rebellion utterly.
Damn. Palpatine is that incompetent manager holding a team back.
more like the corrupt and incompetent CEO/President and Chairman causing the whole house of cards to come tumbling down and collapse within itself.
He’s definitely the best character I never knew.
A few years ago me and some work friends were discussing The Star Wars Universe (around the time the daisy trilogy was starting) most secretive and dangerous “villains” I mentioned thrawn and gave my input on how darth jar jar or thrawn would be the next menacing force. They didn’t know who I was talking about
Probably because they shit on the prequels and think the sequels are the height of Star Wars. You’d be surprised how many think The Clone Wars animated is where SW got off the ground and know nothing about the lore that came before.
Great breakdown, I love the inclusion of the original version of Thrawn. The one I remember. The one who's reason for an Empire was to defend against the oncoming Vong.
Palpatine and Vader didn't explore the intricacies of the dark side because that wasn't either of their goals. Vader wanted order, while Ol Sheev just loved the hell out of being evil and being in control of everything. They didn't have the drive to explore the dark side like Bane, Revan of Caedus. They only used it for their own means, which worked for a long time until it didn't.
Thrawn mentioned star weirs!!!
Perfect timing for tonight’s episode
Yes sir
My thoughts exactly!
The EU Thrawn, which was cannon until Disney deemed otherwise, was much more ruthless and cunning than any Star Wars character then and now. Thrawn did kill his subordinates, but only rarely, and only after they repeatedly failed tremendously. In the EU, Thrawn told Pellion that he had met Anakin Skywalker during the clone wars but never said how and where. He also said his brother died during the outbound flight incident. Thrawn had an entire race enslaved, called the Nogrie. In the old cannon, Thrawn was right on the verge of destroying the New Republic, but he was betrayed by Ruuk and killed by him. Pellion, seeing this happen, ordered a withdrawal of all Imperial forces. He knew that without Thrawn, the Empire would not be able to prevail.
Thrawn books are amazing! Highly recommend!
I had a bad day I needed this to zone out to
You are very tactical with this release timing
Thank you!!
Bravo! 💥 🙌🏽
Only issue I have with Thrawn is they gave him a belly in Ahsoka which makes no sense as he trained against elite empire droids. He is a tall and athletic type of individual not a shorter and pudgy type of officer.
TBF,he is a bit older now,maybe he can't move as much as before,leading to a decrease in physical activity. While not adjusting his diet led to him growing a bit of belly?
Older or not he looks nothing like Thrawn the character should be done as CGI and modelled after the OG Thrawn he should look just like the Thumbnail but no this is Disney but again all of their products are trash
@@PirateCat822 that could be yes, but he is an alien species
@@ΠαναγιωτηςΑγγελ I agree it’s Disney they don’t want positive male role models or anything to do with masculinity because they play politics, but most of how he looks is correct minus he is suppose to be a fairly tall and impressionable character slightly intimidating as well.
@@gammawoody9715 Indeed instead he is just blue painted Lars Mikelensen i would love the actor to take the part but not in this way but with use of CGI so they can model Thrawn as he should look like and having Lars making the expressions i mean don't you agree that the video thumbnail is exactly what Thrawn should look like in live action
Fantastic story on Thrawn.
Would love to know about him in the unknown region.
That last whole segment was really rad
Imagine Emperor with fishing rod and Yoda as bait. Yes more fish to eat says Adam the Emperor.
I mean if Ezra didn’t sacrifice himself thrawn would’ve ended the rebellion at scariff. Thrawn was too powerful to be kept in play
Rebellion has been happening since the very beginning. It will absorb your entire life. I recommend retirement to the library and hospital waiting rooms for rest and relaxation .
Adam calls Satan's shots. A puppet is very amusing.
Great quote!
“Acolytes of the galaxy” hits different now 😭
The Cow ? The food you eat ? The Cow ? You will never destroy the cow.
The way you pronounce some words leaves me convinced that you are an alien.
You can not kill Satan, there for you can not kill those he loves. Rules of nature. Laws of physics.
I bet that Thrawn would be able to beat any naval commander from any other Sci Fi setting
Yoda a quote toy able to get in under the imperial guards knees , yet can not defeat the two great dangers as is a Darth himself in hiding.
A Cigma Femme may sacrifice a life or more without losing any sweat except for reputation.
Here is the question to anyone in the comments. Do you all think that we would see the tie defender on grand Admiral Thrawn’s ship the camera in episode seven or episode eight of Asoka
Sith law is there can only be one, kill everyone in the universe until all alone then suicides from loneliness.
Keep up the great work you do!!!
We need a mini series for Darth Plagues.
If you eat your opposition this only makes them stronger. The Emperors position is strong.
Nice!
There is an issue that has to be remedied with any hyper intelligent character who is doomed to fail. The character is only intelligent as the author. So it becomes difficult for the author to figure out how to outsmart them. There are ways to get around this but it will be interesting to see if Disney's Thrawn falls into the same problems that happened to shows like Death Note.
Your a silver human my dear child. I hope to make you gold, you surrender your memories to me to achieve this. All bad memories.
Thank you I finally feel justified in questioning why the Republic needed to be reformed at all. It fell due to corruption in fighting and decadents so why bring it back?
Tunnel vission is like a lizard vission. More attack than rest.
If only one could click on those time stamps🚬🤔🍿
It begs to question...why did THRAWN get ROOK to kill the weapons officer for "NOT" knowing what LUKE would do? When Luke was pulled in to his ship from a tractor beam but LUKE ESCAPED...but Luke damaged his engines in the long run.
I don't think they could have simply followed the X wings, there was no hyperspace tracking yet.. but with the defenders they could do the same strike and run tactics that the rebellions do.
No preemptive strikes saves your reputation, only and does not advance control and order.
Old and chubby live-action Thrawn…but I like him. I’ll give him a chance 😉
38:00 big breath!
Yoda is Satan with Angelinas brain, like stealing a credit card.
Thrawn doesn't believe in the force and it's what was the downfall of the Empire.
Because thrown was so different from the rest of the imperial machine I think it's a shame we could never see a period where he gets to rule the empire. Now I'm not saying he's right but with his generally understanding nature he would have been an interestingly complex emperor show by the examp!e the Jedi set by leaving him to his own devices in legends. Not that he would've been a monster it sometimes a dangerously tempting one at that.
Definitely an effective tool against the yuuzhan vong.
Let's hope we see Grand admiral Thrawn in episode 6 tonight
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It was AWESOME!!!!
You need balance things two ways one or the other, yes or no. Premtive strike expands control and order yet to over rule Adam is preemptive strike against you and defeat.
Okay. TWO things bro, one, Grand Admiral Zarrin (sp?) Designed and created the Tie Defender. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in Tie Figher. That ol Dos game I should say. And second, was it ever confirmed that Ezra Bridger was in fact promoted to Jedi Knight? As far as I am aware, he's still a Padawan. A good one at that, but even so.
Darth is in great physical well being, a most fit specimen. Could still lose a few thousand ton in the gym.
Is not Palpatine by a quick look ? So who is he putting against you to kill ? Your neighbour which may be your mother ?
Hollow Moon with large communications array is designed for honey moon. 🌙🌙🌙🌙🌙🌙🌙
Ever watch the movie The Thing ? Thats your grandmother the Calimarie.
At what point did we assume the Grisk are the Vong? Was this confirmed somewhere? How did I miss that?
It's one of the Canon changes. They are essentially the same in terms of galactic threat, but go about it differently. The main point is that Thrawn is combating a greater evil and needs the empire to do it
@@RoboKingdom really wish we could have seen the Vong. Too bad Disney is like a reverse King with no cloths on. Everyone keeps telling their head right and they're all like "nah it's fine".
Chimera(Ki-mera)
Calamari , that is your grandmother.
The devil and I are all or nothing. Only two forces in creation.
Pride kills us all, Marters and fighters or not.
So Yoda is just a bait on the hook being reeled in by the Adam and father Satan.
No premtive strike = you make them attack you keeping your reputation.
Am I the only one who sees Grand Admiral Thrawn in the Ahsoka series as a blue skinned, red eyed Elon Musk
Yes you are the only one
No you definitely are not
Nah dude I'm just a casual star wars viewer and I know that wasn't Thrawn that shit upset me.
Dude I actually thought it was musk at first😂😂😂
@@DensilGrant isn't the actor for thrawn the same voice actor from rebels? I thought I read that somewhere.
If thrawn was the emperor....the rebellion would have been completely crushed a long time ago 😂
I drone it and back door to safety. Nearly always. If not always.
Listening to this while i make mexican food in preparation to watch ep 6 with the wife
Luke destroying the Cline list his head, next in species, p,ease.
I wrote the Vaders. A good read.
Bad guy makes you fight your neighbour , li,e say your mother ? I read mind to stay away from such fights.
Question is: if thrown is from the unknown regions, why didn't he just call his people to offer aid and get back to the galaxy?
The Chiss are isolationists that don't believe in pre-emptive strikes. Plus they don't want to split their forces as they're embroiled in a war far worse than Empire vs. Rebels. Edit: It's possible the Chiss invent some kind of long range communication device while he is in exile. It would explain how Thrawn could communicate to build the Eye of Sion.
Some one stands up and says they are God we all die. Guess who I Daddy am ?
Knowing Palpatine will premtive strike against you and defeat you should you over rule him.
Can not kill Satan or anyone he loves , can not be a God ruling over scorpians. When sime ine stands up and says they are God we all die, guess who your daddy is ?
He’s evil, but I love him after reading Star Wars: Thrawn. He’s such an awesome character
He Is not evil he does only what Is Needed to protect the ascendency and all of its people
Evil? How so?
@@lollo987100 ha! Man, you have any idea how many evil people used that as an excuse? All for the greater good
Check out Star Wars Rebels
I dead my mother who is headless wolf to prove points of order. She is species and survives quite well.
Even if the Death ⭐ was powerful enough to Destroy whole planets in one shot. Its cant be in 2 STRATEGIC LOCATIONS AT ONE TIME. AND ALSO....the deflector shield has to be balls to the wall...in terms of PLANETARY SHRAPNEL AND SHOCKWAVES. And just guessing.scale wise.the Death Star has to be about the SIZE OF DETROIT.
Wait something doesn't add up
You said the in canon The chiefs were manipulated by telepaths into the civil war.... However that fouled in the second book of a thrawn ascendancy.... And thus jixtus Began his own attempt To start a civil war however thrawn fail to And it was at that point bacy and thrawn Agreed that he should be exiled in order to spy on this new empire... And see if they could be the valuable ally thrawn was looking for Something he had decided the republic was not....... I thought that was the canon Along with the Trilogy that follows it... That would technically affect they came out first
Chaos's complaints will not be heard, please.
I make Hollow Moon with large communication array by the dozen, maybe not your galaxy as you have power sharing problems.
We dont have twenty one years to spare. Yet I will spare Luke for time we di not have. Luke us the father if Leahs twins. She us in orison .I hope and were celebrating her baby shower
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDD...as long as Thrawn has them ANIMALS ON HIS SHOULDERS......PALPATINE AND VADER BE DAMMED. BUT I WONDER DID PALPATINE AND VADER KNOW ABOUT THE CREATURES. OR MAYBE THEY DID....THATS WHY THEY NEVER INTIMIDATED HIM.
Sideous is number ine your number two, youll never change that. Birth right. Shes your mum.
thrawn irl acting looks like elon musk
I hope 🤞 they don’t mess with his character but I trust Dave
And Tim lol 😂
Don't trust Kathleen. The Force is female now. Did u see Ezra riding bitch with Sabine on that giant rat horse. Disney Star Wars is total trash. And so is Dave. It's over.
Thrawn is a great character but he would not have stayed loyal to the empire. He was diametrically opposed to everything the empire was and so he may not have joined the rebellion but he wouldn't have stayed with the empire.
If Thrawn was motivated by saving his people and the galaxy against the Von. Why did he not just join the rebellion, surely he could have been a leader in the new republic and working with the Jedi he would have a better chance of winning????
You move sideways through time keaving a dead drine behind, easy.
Take Luke Skywalker. I just took his head, hopefully the next in species is clean and good DNA. If there is a next I e. We looking at Millie in Charles house ? I'm looking in to it.
Youve got tunnel vission.
Only through medicine.
Wi es and children. The feeling of life.
Who wins with prep time? Batman or Thrawn?
I'm not sure. Black Holes can hold their thoughts from me some how.
Dark side is seductive. Pleasure is distracting. Im business. Medical work is my charity which I work at all the time.
Fighting the Monkey ? Talk to swan , pleae.
Nimrod the centerrist government guy. Who defeated me Ran in Japan 6,700 years ago to take my wife Queen of Heaven the White Swan.
I feel like star wars under disney is currently very left leaning instead of centerist as it should. So I don't think they'll explore this aspect of Thrawn. But merely paint him as a competent and efficient commander.
Essentially the "genius" archetype where he predicts things. But the reasoning or logic is not shown. But merely the fact that "he's just that smart." And I feel like his soldiers won't merely be loyal but fanatical in a cult like way.
Princess Leah sould be in prison and not at the party, please.
Ever read the books? Ever hear of Timothy Zahn? Crazy that KK and Disney can’t get it right. Not just Thrawn but many others. It is already written! But they are so arrogant they think they can do it better! Fools! It is already written! Read or listen to all the Thrawn books!!!
Playing 21 Leah is spliting , twins.
You can apeak to the Queen of heaven. The Swan.
I eat Ma, some times I do not hear her conplaints, please.