This wasn't just PvP, it was the entire game's inability to prevent modding and hacks. The player is doing this to send a message to SE just how easy it is. He was banned from Twitch, Kick, UA-cam streaming, and a few other sites before SE banned him...for only 10 days! He said he'll be back, and will continue to come back until SE does something.
Oh yeah I focus on pvp because that's what he used them in mainly but also because I think the pvp community suffers the most (well that and marketboard crafters) from the negative effects of cheating.
We actually don't know if he'll be back- it should be important to know that 10 day bans also have info talking about them being escalated as the investigation pends in that time. So it could just be made into a full ban. That said, glad someone is trying to shed a light on this
"If a tree falls in the forest with no ears to hear does it make a sound. It matters not for the tree has fallen." Is something the community in Ffxiv does ad nauseum. When it comes to a community section like pvp, How cheating and win traders are handled is fundamentally different to how hardcore raiders deal with there own cheaters. We've all known about paid legends, plugins, cactpot, etc. They're made fun of constantly, and while the pvp community does this as well- the sentiment is a whole lot more toxic and pessimistic because pvp cheating effects way more peoples enjoyment of the mode fundamentally. If i paid for my legend title, I've cheated no one but myself- but if i cheat in pvp, I cheat OTHERS from their hard earned effort. I don't think this cheating problem is a soul issue and ailment of pvp. but the game as a whole.
2 things I would like to speak on. Hacking and boosting in rank. It's easier to get rid of a hacker from Crystal Conflict than it is frontlines. People are more serious in CC ranked while pvp is more laid back everywhere else. As long as casual pvp continues to get more people that either plays for second or outright just wants the experience points for their dailies hacking in frontlines isn't going to be a big issue. As I speak premades are more of an issue on the forums than hacking. As for boosting there are already multiple ways you can boost, one of them involving just playing on only one favorable map and climbing then. The truth of the matter is that in these ranked games it's extremely easy to run into the same people over and over again no matter the rank. Personally, I think this is the result of making it easy to obtain platinum. I would make it so that you can demote all the way to bronze. That will bring the playerbase to a silver level. However, that will solve the problem with running into the same players over and over again making the low players queue times nearly instant and making the top level player's queue times longer. No, this won't entirely solve the problem. However, if the top players care about their rank they'll make use of the report button.
naw cheating is rampant even in triple a games these days. look at cod last year a guy in minor leagues was caught 90% of top 250 leaderboard players were literally cheating its an epidemic in online pc games rn
Scripting is blatant in pvp and has destroyed all credibility of ranked pvp unless its a stage event that's monitored. Thats just how its been ever since people found the cheater discords.
I did not expect to see a video about ffxiv with Sonic Forces music when I woke up today. Futher more, I am not disappointed about it because I'm tired of "Papaya" in videos.
A well designed system should be able to detect functional cheating compared to your average mods. Most mods are just visual, being client side, aren’t detectable by the servers.
tbf sam should probably not be able to oneshot you just because you are fighting like 20 people and didn't notice he used one ability. Not only one shot you, but anyone nearby you. If anything AOE's should not count for this
Honestly every PVP mode in any game is filled with cheaters at the top. Even games like CSGO or Overwatch have had people get caught cheating in official tournaments. But at least most of the cheaters can be blocked in tournaments since they have to switch computers (although people have snuck software into their mouse). But in general public queues? Yea...there's cheaters in every game and no developer has ever protected from that. You just can't take things like leaderboards seriously.
Dont forget all the default lala bots under limsa me n my buddy were watching em yesterday fall through the world in the mizzenmast yesterday that squeenix do fuck all about but know are there on every data centre. Which this guy cheating showed off in his hacking adventures.
The biggest cheat in PVP is Dark Knight, that job needs a complete overhaul, its a joke the devs haven't noticed this and change their skills, play or watch any Frontlines match and watch them completely dominate. As for Samurai, it's a job made for trolls, 99% of Samurai just go right into a crowd and take hits because they feel untouchable. Every other job is all right, but those 2 needs to be addressed
I eventually went back to wow because of this. Which sucks cause I really, really really liked the game but I've never been a huge fan of pve content and the lack of care put into pvp mixed with their hands being tied, I just don't see a point to play. PVP is dying (Again) cause que times as they are now are horrible.
Wait till Xbox joins the PvP. Well Xbox in general, with more people will they aim for a solution. I'm on PS so idk how one would hack and what benefits to get. I just see RMT as the only problem. PvP do need help tho...
Pvp is just an experience and tome farm sense the rework. They butchered the game mode so badly no one sane cares about it anymore. Just fast exp and tome farm. For example I've had 100 plus lose streaks because of how rigged it is with pre mades right lol
I'd rather instead of wasting resources with that they just gave me a "disable pvp permanently on this account and just give me the rewards" button. The end result is the same - I don't like, enjoy or care about the content, just the stuff from it - it just wouldn't force me to half-ass running in circles until the match is over and I get some more currency from a loss.
Honestly you bring up a good point about reward driven content. When you don't have to win to level the series pass, it'll make it more likely to have players in the mode that don't care.
The problem isn't whether you need to win or not, it's that there are rewards exclusive to it, that you can't get elsewhere. People who like to collect mounts, minions, frames, etc. are literally forced into joining that, even if they don't care at all. Making it so you could only level with a win wouldn't make me put more effort, it would just make me queue that many more times until I got the necessary leech-to-win eventually. The only way to get rid of players in the same situation as me is for the rewards to be achievable elsewhere. Or for there to be a toggle that blocks me from pvp permanently (so it isn't cheesed by those who want to do it) and lets me have all the rewards - which isn't going to happen, of course.
@vladenpain Your argument/demand is pretty dumb and childish to be quite candid. Following your logic there should also be "Disable Ultimates/Eureka/Bozja/Relics/Savage/Extremes/Dungeons/Blue Mage and basically everything else that has exclusive rewards/drops tied to it that you can't buy on the mb and send them to me immediately" buttons. You aren't forced to join anything, you just can't accept that the content isn't for you and just not do it and accept that you wont have some pixels in your inventory that you'd like to have or you are forcing yourself to do something you apparently can't stomach for the life of you. In the case of PvP season pass rewards it's literally like 15 minutes for derping through the Frontlines roulette done sporadically, not even daily, to coast to rank 25 for your pixels. PvP season pass rewards are probably one of the lowest effort exclusive rewards in the entire game. Go try getting Pteranodon. I hope you enjoy crafting and gathering non-stop for a year or two. If PvP season pass rewards already make you that unreasonable of a person I can't even imagine how you act when you set your eyes on that mount and decide you want it. Either way, your argument is absolutely dumb, why even play at all? Just log in and have everything that's exclusive behind certain activities just sent per mail to everyone. Some people... Before you even think about responding something like "Uh, you're so elitist". No, I'm not. I do my Frontlines roulettes every now and then and play to the best of my abilities to get to rank 25 and so do others, that's it. I don't do Extremes, Savages or Ultimates, cause that's not my content and I just can accept I wont have all the shiney things if I don't play the content they are in and so do others, instead of behaving like a toddler by running in circles in "protest". Simple as that.
@@vladenpain You could say that about any aspect of the game. If I don't like playing Triple Triad should I just be able to hit a button and get the mount, parasol, titles, etc for free with no effort? If I don't like fishing should I be able to hit a button and get everything? If I don't like playing tank should I be able to hit a button and get all 8 tank achievement mounts? If I don't like doing ultimate fights should I be able to hit a button and get all the weapon glams for free?
@@vladenpain Well if people ''like to collect mounts, minions, frames etc.'' don't want to participate in PvP then are they really people who like to collect mounts and minions? 😅
This wasn't just PvP, it was the entire game's inability to prevent modding and hacks. The player is doing this to send a message to SE just how easy it is. He was banned from Twitch, Kick, UA-cam streaming, and a few other sites before SE banned him...for only 10 days! He said he'll be back, and will continue to come back until SE does something.
Oh yeah I focus on pvp because that's what he used them in mainly but also because I think the pvp community suffers the most (well that and marketboard crafters) from the negative effects of cheating.
We actually don't know if he'll be back- it should be important to know that 10 day bans also have info talking about them being escalated as the investigation pends in that time. So it could just be made into a full ban.
That said, glad someone is trying to shed a light on this
"If a tree falls in the forest with no ears to hear does it make a sound. It matters not for the tree has fallen." Is something the community in Ffxiv does ad nauseum. When it comes to a community section like pvp, How cheating and win traders are handled is fundamentally different to how hardcore raiders deal with there own cheaters. We've all known about paid legends, plugins, cactpot, etc. They're made fun of constantly, and while the pvp community does this as well- the sentiment is a whole lot more toxic and pessimistic because pvp cheating effects way more peoples enjoyment of the mode fundamentally. If i paid for my legend title, I've cheated no one but myself- but if i cheat in pvp, I cheat OTHERS from their hard earned effort.
I don't think this cheating problem is a soul issue and ailment of pvp. but the game as a whole.
@@youngecujoh855 looks like he actually came back today focusing on raiding cheaters now haha this is gonna be a wild ride
2 things I would like to speak on. Hacking and boosting in rank.
It's easier to get rid of a hacker from Crystal Conflict than it is frontlines. People are more serious in CC ranked while pvp is more laid back everywhere else. As long as casual pvp continues to get more people that either plays for second or outright just wants the experience points for their dailies hacking in frontlines isn't going to be a big issue. As I speak premades are more of an issue on the forums than hacking.
As for boosting there are already multiple ways you can boost, one of them involving just playing on only one favorable map and climbing then. The truth of the matter is that in these ranked games it's extremely easy to run into the same people over and over again no matter the rank. Personally, I think this is the result of making it easy to obtain platinum. I would make it so that you can demote all the way to bronze. That will bring the playerbase to a silver level. However, that will solve the problem with running into the same players over and over again making the low players queue times nearly instant and making the top level player's queue times longer. No, this won't entirely solve the problem. However, if the top players care about their rank they'll make use of the report button.
naw cheating is rampant even in triple a games these days. look at cod last year a guy in minor leagues was caught 90% of top 250 leaderboard players were literally cheating its an epidemic in online pc games rn
It's kind of wild honestly but fwiw I think a lot of people quit other PVP games because of cheating too.
Scripting is blatant in pvp and has destroyed all credibility of ranked pvp unless its a stage event that's monitored. Thats just how its been ever since people found the cheater discords.
I did not expect to see a video about ffxiv with Sonic Forces music when I woke up today.
Futher more, I am not disappointed about it because I'm tired of "Papaya" in videos.
Haha it wasn't the first and won't be the last time! Glad you recognized it!
A well designed system should be able to detect functional cheating compared to your average mods. Most mods are just visual, being client side, aren’t detectable by the servers.
tbf sam should probably not be able to oneshot you just because you are fighting like 20 people and didn't notice he used one ability. Not only one shot you, but anyone nearby you. If anything AOE's should not count for this
Yeah I could see something like that. I will say I do try to be careful when I see SAMs rushing in but I will still die to them sometimes
cheating or not, the pvp in this game is hot fucking ass anyway.
unfortunately
"PvP" in ffxiv can't play with friends and can't communicate might as well play against bots and there won't be difference.
CC needs a fixed party queue for certain
Honestly every PVP mode in any game is filled with cheaters at the top.
Even games like CSGO or Overwatch have had people get caught cheating in official tournaments. But at least most of the cheaters can be blocked in tournaments since they have to switch computers (although people have snuck software into their mouse). But in general public queues? Yea...there's cheaters in every game and no developer has ever protected from that. You just can't take things like leaderboards seriously.
It's definitely a hard problem to avoid no matter what game you're playing.
Yeah so just like “deal” with it right? Lol probly cheat themselves.
@@rodimus580 ?
No I'm just saying don't take it seriously.
@@lushen952 sounds just like a response someone who does that would say… lol hahahahaha
@@lushen952 ok guy. 😉
This is why I don't pvp; because of cheaters. Mods and hacks are fine to make the game more fun but cheating....? They take the fun out of it.
Dont forget all the default lala bots under limsa me n my buddy were watching em yesterday fall through the world in the mizzenmast yesterday that squeenix do fuck all about but know are there on every data centre. Which this guy cheating showed off in his hacking adventures.
Almost like they don't ban tons of them in huge waves but it takes botters just way less time to make more and more bots.
Wintrading is what turned me off from playing triple triad and dominion. It's sad.
I hate PvP, its just this is the only thing who helps you to level 1 - 50, other methods are trash or limited
I don't think SE will do anything sadly 😢
The biggest cheat in PVP is Dark Knight, that job needs a complete overhaul, its a joke the devs haven't noticed this and change their skills, play or watch any Frontlines match and watch them completely dominate. As for Samurai, it's a job made for trolls, 99% of Samurai just go right into a crowd and take hits because they feel untouchable. Every other job is all right, but those 2 needs to be addressed
Dark knight, that pull move and then the invulnerability lasting for ages, it’s insane.
I eventually went back to wow because of this. Which sucks cause I really, really really liked the game but I've never been a huge fan of pve content and the lack of care put into pvp mixed with their hands being tied, I just don't see a point to play. PVP is dying (Again) cause que times as they are now are horrible.
Wait till Xbox joins the PvP. Well Xbox in general, with more people will they aim for a solution.
I'm on PS so idk how one would hack and what benefits to get. I just see RMT as the only problem.
PvP do need help tho...
Delete PVP. You know when you run into a potion but the person BEHIND you gets it, there's a problem.
Yeah your connection
Shiyu just don't play PvP then.
Cool aspect ratio bro
Pvp will always be a joke . So easy pass on this toxic oil spill.
The story is the real joke in ffxiv lol
noooow thats a huge lie lmao, the story is the sole #1 thing everyone will always agree is top tier.@@youtubeuser2938
Pvp is just an experience and tome farm sense the rework. They butchered the game mode so badly no one sane cares about it anymore. Just fast exp and tome farm. For example I've had 100 plus lose streaks because of how rigged it is with pre mades right lol
No. next video
I'd rather instead of wasting resources with that they just gave me a "disable pvp permanently on this account and just give me the rewards" button. The end result is the same - I don't like, enjoy or care about the content, just the stuff from it - it just wouldn't force me to half-ass running in circles until the match is over and I get some more currency from a loss.
Honestly you bring up a good point about reward driven content. When you don't have to win to level the series pass, it'll make it more likely to have players in the mode that don't care.
The problem isn't whether you need to win or not, it's that there are rewards exclusive to it, that you can't get elsewhere. People who like to collect mounts, minions, frames, etc. are literally forced into joining that, even if they don't care at all. Making it so you could only level with a win wouldn't make me put more effort, it would just make me queue that many more times until I got the necessary leech-to-win eventually. The only way to get rid of players in the same situation as me is for the rewards to be achievable elsewhere.
Or for there to be a toggle that blocks me from pvp permanently (so it isn't cheesed by those who want to do it) and lets me have all the rewards - which isn't going to happen, of course.
@vladenpain
Your argument/demand is pretty dumb and childish to be quite candid. Following your logic there should also be "Disable Ultimates/Eureka/Bozja/Relics/Savage/Extremes/Dungeons/Blue Mage and basically everything else that has exclusive rewards/drops tied to it that you can't buy on the mb and send them to me immediately" buttons.
You aren't forced to join anything, you just can't accept that the content isn't for you and just not do it and accept that you wont have some pixels in your inventory that you'd like to have or you are forcing yourself to do something you apparently can't stomach for the life of you. In the case of PvP season pass rewards it's literally like 15 minutes for derping through the Frontlines roulette done sporadically, not even daily, to coast to rank 25 for your pixels.
PvP season pass rewards are probably one of the lowest effort exclusive rewards in the entire game. Go try getting Pteranodon. I hope you enjoy crafting and gathering non-stop for a year or two. If PvP season pass rewards already make you that unreasonable of a person I can't even imagine how you act when you set your eyes on that mount and decide you want it.
Either way, your argument is absolutely dumb, why even play at all? Just log in and have everything that's exclusive behind certain activities just sent per mail to everyone. Some people...
Before you even think about responding something like "Uh, you're so elitist". No, I'm not. I do my Frontlines roulettes every now and then and play to the best of my abilities to get to rank 25 and so do others, that's it. I don't do Extremes, Savages or Ultimates, cause that's not my content and I just can accept I wont have all the shiney things if I don't play the content they are in and so do others, instead of behaving like a toddler by running in circles in "protest". Simple as that.
@@vladenpain You could say that about any aspect of the game. If I don't like playing Triple Triad should I just be able to hit a button and get the mount, parasol, titles, etc for free with no effort? If I don't like fishing should I be able to hit a button and get everything? If I don't like playing tank should I be able to hit a button and get all 8 tank achievement mounts? If I don't like doing ultimate fights should I be able to hit a button and get all the weapon glams for free?
@@vladenpain Well if people ''like to collect mounts, minions, frames etc.'' don't want to participate in PvP then are they really people who like to collect mounts and minions? 😅