Alesis Strike Pro SE -VS- Roland TD27KV (Deep Dive Comparison)
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2020
- This is a in-depth comparison and breakdown of the Roland TD27KV VS the Alesis Strike Pro SE! If you want to know just about ALL of the pros and cons to each drumset, this is the video to watch. Summery Below:
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Strengths And Weaknesses Breakdown:
Roland TD27KV Pros:
Better Triggering
Lower Latency
Positional Sensing
Bigger Ride Cymbal
Module Has More Editing Options
Bluetooth
Resale Value
Better Durability Reputation
Cons:
Uninspiring Stage Presence
Smaller Toms, Cymbals, And Kick Drum
Less Drums/Cymbals
Weaker Sound Quality On The Kick/Snare/Toms
Fewer Sounds
$500 More Expensive Than Alesis
Alesis Strike Pro SE
Pros:
More Drums and Cymbals
Larger Kick Drum, Toms, and Hihat
Higher Quality Sounds
Twice As Many Sounds
Free Sound Updates Just Keep Coming
Less Bouncy Drumheads
Color Screen
Faders
Can Import Multi-Layered Round Robin Samples
Cons:
Triggering Isn’t As Good As Roland
Latency is 2X Longer Than Roland
2” Smaller Ride Cymbal Than Roland
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Shopping for expensive electric drums is miserable. The manufacturers and retailers have limited info, you can't try them in stores, and there's so many mixed reviews. Thank you so much for what you do
It really does suck, there's a high chance not to be able to play the expensive kit in person at a music store before purchase. I hope that improves in the future
I know right! They only go over the most noticeable things most of the time. Sometimes I might want to know “can I hit the crash on the bell” or “does the drums have rim zones” and there’s nothing about that. Instead of the minor details like that it’s always just the big highlights instead of going deep.
Now imagine how miserable it is to try buying in non-EU or non-US
The closer we get to even test the expensive drums we are trying to buy is these YT videos... Is just not fair
@@psychodrums8138 ...and that's to say nothing of the price. I'm VERY close to just spending the money on a Pro-tec kit, who to this day (at least to my knowledge) makes the very best feeling e-kits on the market. But, their cost is disgusting (and that's being nice about it). And, they're in Germany, on top of it. And, God help you if you get a product that you're not happy with, then having to return 10 boxes. The entire retail market has been absolutely destroyed. Either they don't carry a product, or the customer service is beyond horrible.
I bought an Alesis Pro Strike SE and I could not be happier. It's fucking awesome.
Have any of the pads failed yet?
I'd love to see an updated review of this.
Thank you so much for this deep dive Justin! I was having a hard time choosing what e-drum kit to get but you have, pretty assuredly, sold me on the Alesis Strike Pro SE kit.
Seriously though, thank you so much for all the work you do! Please keep it up and I wish you the best!
Justin, your playing has really amped up dude! I noticed quite a difference. Sounding great. Love your channel! I have an older DM10 Studio with upgrades but I am seriously eyeballing the Strike Pro SE now. Keep up the great work!
I got thrown into ekits via the pandemic. I can not thank you enough for all you do, Justin. So much good info in every single video. You've helped me fix mistakes ive made, gave me all the info ive needed for buying gear I was looking for, and made the transition from A to E much more enjoyable. Thank you, Sir.
Completely agree.
Alesis for me... more things to hit, greater sound library, better looking, cheaper,
Durability plays a big factor
And Alesis’ drums aren’t that durable
More pads don't matter much when they regularly fail to trigger.
Trigger failing
Poor durability
Alesis make drumsets you can't count on
I owned an alesis dm10x i sold it and bought a yamaha dtx400k which iss the lowest end serie yamaha makes
Its betterrr at least i can count on
It's durable triggers will never fail
Even tho alesis mesh pads are nicer but it gives hard time
It doesn't always trigger welll
Its make the playing feeling suck because of that
Excellent review Justin! You've taught me something... "Stage presence" is an important factor to consider, explains where my head it at and why I can't get acoustic design e-kits off my mind. Acoustic kits will always be a first love but e-kits are way more practical however generic looking models are less fulfilling in the long run IMO. Needed to hear an honest review so thank you.
Perfect video. Have been trying to make a decision between these two kits for a while!
Been waiting for this for a long time!
Thanks for waiting :)
I've had both and Roland is definitely the better option. Alesis has a lot of triggering issues and don't last nearly as long. In terms of overall quality and durability Roland is the king of electronic drums.
You have the strike pro SE or the strike pro?
@@67micber - It was the Command Mesh Kit. Maybe the more high end Alesis kits are good but mine was pretty much completely dead after a year. I now have a Roland TD-17KV and a few years later it's still good as new. For an electronic kit on the cheaper end I highly recommend it.
@@67micber - I should have said that I've had both brands, not the kits showcased in this video. My mistake.
I appreciate your honest reviews.
Dude... you’re chops are getting really really really good. I’ve always looked to you for a source of information, I can see you have been seriously shedding on the kit. Awesome playing man
Thanks Steve! I'm kinda hit or miss sometimes. Especially at events like NAMM where I'm running around playing 10+ drumsets in one day. Hard to play perfect like that. The more time I have with a kit, the better the footage tends to be.
I think you have the best drum info vids on YT. Thank you!!
I love the sounds of the Strike module, but I also love the technology of Roland's digital pads. So I would recommend Alesis to make their own special snare pad, so then the experience of playing the Strike module is better than before.
Great channel and a timely discovery as I'm about to pass along my acoustic set to my son and replace it with something more compact and less noisy. As an older music hobbyist - basically hacking away at guitar, drums, and keyboard - I don't need stage presence, a zillion sounds, or even resale value. For me, durability equates to value, and quality enhances enjoyment. Glitzy options (on almost any product) tend to be "bait" for the average user with average skills and needs; you might feel tempted initially, but in time you'll forget about the frills you would rarely use anyways. Again, well-executed videos here, with efficient, balanced, down-to-earth observations and guidance. Thanks!
Man!!! I dig your channel 👊🏽 I’ll be in the market within a year to upgrade from my TD-12. It has served me very well seeing how it was originally a gift to me after a near fatal car wreck in 2005. Keep making these videos brother! I’ll give on Patreon.
Td12 still a very good module. My brother just got a td50x and I was surprised how good my td10exp still sounds in comparison! You might experience the same when listening to new modules.
Since I switched to using drum software(AD2), I don’t pay attention to module sounds anymore. So I’m paying attention to pad design, sizes, head quality/rebound, and how realistic the cymbals swing and feel. I like the Alesis for the overall sizes, and the Roland for the cymbals. The sample import option in the Strike module is nice, but I don’t see it replacing my computers hard drive anytime soon. I’m too used to stand-alone AD2 and it’s awesome editing options. So hard to choose between Roland and Alesis, because they are both good quality kits.
Excellent review.
Thanks again for a great video!
Liked before even watching, great content as always brotha
Thanks Mauricio!
best and most unbiased reviews on the web IMO
thanks Justin !!
I really appreciate the fixed functionality on the Alesis hi-hats, but I am not so sure on having the bottom be just the controller now, instead of having an actual bottom piece with a controller in it. It leaves the hats too much room to wiggle around when closed, they should be really tight when closed.
Ordered an Alesis Strike Pro Special Editions thanks to reviews likes these, thanks man👍🏼
You'll wish you hadn't lol
Such a great video! Thanks for the great content. Subbed!
1000ms equal 1 second. 3ms is a fly wing flap and 5ms is a honeybee wing flap. It takes 80 ms for sound to reach you from 30 meters (about 98 ft) away according to science. Video software when syncing usually has audio ahead of visual for it to sync and misleads people into thinking it is instant (this is standard practice if you look it up). 2ms to 5ms is typical response time for LCD monitors.
This is just some data I am providing for context.
I have been asking various people for data on drum modules speed because I do not experience it and no has provided me data from reputable sources. Only Roland claims to be the fastest and people who have been told this over and over again. Anything under 10 milliseconds is not noticeable on a kit and the Roland TD20 was between 5-10 milliseconds (if I remember) from pad>module>headphones or amp. Pearl Mimic Pro and Roland TD50 says it can do it around 3ms. Even if the Alesis is slower, lets say 15 milliseconds (which I doubt compared to the Roland TD20 and Pearl Mimic Pro I use) it is still faster than a Two hundred fifty-sixth note at 60 BPM.
If the old Roland TD20 was 5-10 milliseconds and people were fine with it then the slightly slower speed on a Alesis Strike should not be a issue.
I do see a lag even with acoustic drums through a PA the farther away I am from a stage and the same rule applies for electronic drums through a PA system therefore using a stage for comparison is not a valid argument.
However if using in studio and it is 8 milliseconds slower on playback, just edit or snap to beat. It’s not that hard and even using a Roland TD50 people will play off beat so you have to edit those parts anyway and if the person is on time then it is a cinch to snap into beat. And if the audio for a Alesis is off 10 milliseconds on recording, remember Roland TD50 is 3-5ms off too because of the time it takes to travel and you will have to make sure it is in sync to the beat.
Not arguing just providing context for people to realize how meaningless to dread over or actually under 10 milliseconds of audio.
I am interested in improvements to reliability with Alesis.
And its not the pads that cause the delay, its the module but Roland is still using basic hardware for its module. It is not a 8 core processor so it shouldn’t cost that much. It’s all in the OS and algorithms now.
This is the only thing for me to consider Alesis is how long it will last. I want to buy one that last 15+ years playing at home/recording mostly and maybe a few gigs out here and there so I do think it will last and love everything they've done to it. Roland gets me with nearly perfect hardware in terms of long lasting but it isn't the most fun to play. Nothing exciting about it I feel.
Yeah, anything under 10ms sounds fine to the player.
Eddie - E11World I agree longtivity is the issue for me but I can’t stand the price, cheap sounds and small sizes of Roland.
have to handle this problem Alesis According to
thank you so much for clearing all that up. I've always been a little confused on how much I should be concerned with it....cheers
Thank you for the review. I was struggling to get a real deal comparison I could trust. For me, I’m going the Alesis route.
Justin, youre playing has improved a lot! Keep it up
I was just thinking that
Thankyou, for bringing me up to speed on these 2 drum kits.
Well I wasn't sure how to process the pros and cons between the two sets. Being a brand new drummer, I prefer the looks of an acoustic kit. Unfortunately, my wife is ill and she would not be able to deal with the noise of my constant out of time banging and unnecessary fills, LOL. I chose the Alesis Strike Pro SE because of the appearance and color screen. Both, completely unnecessary, but to each his own. I haven't been disappointed one bit with my purchase. I have done quite a btt of trigger tweaking based on various videos I found here on UA-cam. This also taught me quite a lot about my module, the menus, and how things work. I have had this kit for about six months now, and I haven't had anything fail. I am very happy with my purchase and all that you offer on your channel. Not all of us can justify a VAD706 and your videos keep things real from the average Joe's perspective. Please keep up the excellent work!
This video convinced me to get the Alesis. I was going back and for between the SE and the Roland 17kvx. Thanks buddy.
How do you feel about your decision now? I'm torn between those two kits as well. 17kvx is 1500 with a free $225 throne and strike pro SE is 2700 with $300 gift card after purchase at sweetwater which would buy the alesis 1200 amp later. The 17kvx just looks so small and boring but I don't want the SE if everything is just going to fail and break over time. The 27kv is the same price as the SE and you get that same throne, so that's a possibility as well. The 27kv2 looks amazing with the digi hats but that's 3500 with no extras. Too spendy for me.
In the next few months i will need to buy an e-drum, and i took like the 80% of the informations that i needed from your videos. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and experience🙏🏼
Awesome William! Glad the channel has been useful
I've waited for this video for a while so thanks for putting it up.
It's the fixes that Alesis did to the original kit that makes this seem like the better option. $500 more isn't a deal breaker if you're spending over $2000 I think especially when it will be the one to use for years to come however, how long will Alesis kits last is the only thing I consider against it.
Nice, balanced, review dude. Good job.
Alesis Con: only comes in cocktail bar red sparkle.
Wish you could choose from maybe three to five colors. Including one or two being wood finish.
Can you choose from three to five colours for the TD-27KV? Hell, they aren't even half-shells. Drum wrap is relatively cheap and a kit can be wrapped casually in a weekend. Hardly a con when the comparison kit doesn't have the options you're requesting. ;)
You can always buy new wraps which aren't super expensive. The Alesis drums are full shells, wrap them anyway you want!
yea green would look cool
roland con: only one color also. i dont see the point you're making.
Martin M not a fan of red. Or red sparkle. Think it’s pretty clear if you actually read my statement. Thought it would be slightly cool to choose a different color or wood look. Just an opinion.
Very helpful. Thank you. Great job.
Alesis all the way. Just having free updates with new kit sounds on top of all the rest is just the cherry on top. I don’t really care about latency as long as it’s not noticeable, I’m not like buddy rich about to do the fastest snare roll ever it’s just not something I care about unless it’s a genuine thing that’s holding me back. But the biggest selling point for me personally is the acoustic sizes of everything. I’m one of those people who wants to be able to go from electric to playing on acoustic without there being an adjustment period. The feeling and sizes of the drums, along with all the features (like bell zones and rims) is all that I’m looking for and the Alesis does that and more.
Your drumming is getting soo good dude!
Thanks Ryan!
The Alesis sound in the opening demo speaks to me in a way the Roland doesn't.
interesting. it seemed the drummer was more freestyling and feeling the groove on the roland, and while the alesis sounded cooler probably just tuned differently, his first freestyle on the alesis looked and sounded more rehearsed. as a musician in general it speaks volumes that the roland felt more like the real thing, even if the otber produces more "cool" sounds out the box.
It also breaks in a way that the roland wont...
Huge thanks to you man! Really helpfull!
Sooo close to 65k subscribers! Go go go!
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In every demo video on e drums I never hear the narrator mention the decibel level of the kit without amplification. That is a big concern for those of us in apartments.
You can here them in next room. Not annoying at all. Probably cant here anything next apartment.
Pintech Concertcast are VERY Quite, probably because of the solid metal constuction...I have the Pintech 12" dual zone snare. I have the Alesis Command set. Much louder pads! I don't know if the Strike's are that loud or not, however.
@@JayJay-ii5un Can't where anything next apartment?
@@attempt58 if the walls between are insulated or thick I would guess not.
Pintech Concertcast have been the quietest for me. It’s like putting a mesh head over an iron skillet. Nothing vibrates to make noise thankfully!
Thanks for the videos! A thought - it would be so helpful if you kept an ONGOING list of what YOU feel are the top drum sets in each price category. It'd be a huge help for those of use wanting to get started, but NOT wanting to do weeks of research (and we don't have access to these drums anyway even if we DID want to spend the time). I'd rather hear what an expert like yourself has to say, because I know my budget, but I DON"T know drums. At least yet. Thanks! Gary
1st of all thanks a lot for your videos. They are indeed a great help in many ways. Im building my own own eletronic drums with low volume cymbals and I have one question: whats is the best module/price related that you would recomend? Alesis strike se vs td 17 vs td 27? Regards. Dan
Hey Justin just wondering what your all time favorite electric drum so far would be. Thanks!
Thank you for this. I’m favoring the Alesis for the outs. I need something to replace my acoustic set for live studio recording/.
Thanks for the valuable info.
Great job Justin for your video. If I found a use Roland td30 is it better Than the new alesis strike pro for the sound and the quality? Thank you! Mike..
Once again I already bought the strike se BUT I enjoy so much watching your videos !!! Keep them coming especially now that we have to stay at home. Greetings from Greece
Hey, would you mind giving an update on how the SE is holding up by now?
@@pablovicioso no problems regarding built quality I am still tuning the hi hat settings but I got them 95% dialed in. I keep seeing posts on FB group about ride cymbals going bad but mine works great
you still thinking it was worth it? im going to college soon so i cant bring my acoustic and ive been looking at a strike pro
@@notsogreatcourier9536 yes currently , but note that needs a lot of tweeking to bring it to your personal preference , second note if you are new to e drumming you might need some time to adjust your playing , think of it as a new instrument that is related closely to an acoustic drum set but not quite one! And lastly it's quite noisy for the ppl living bellow you as are almost all e kits because of the kick pedal.
@@GR3G0 alright, thank you so much man
Justin, you said you liked the Alesis heads better than the Rolands. I've switched over to the Real Feel heads. How do the Alesis heads compare to the Real Feel heads?
Thank you. Always look forward to your reviews, knowledge and playing.
The one thing that puts me off the Strike Pro SE is the latency that you mentioned compared to the TD27. I am assuming though that, in reality, the difference is barely noticeable. In which case I will definitely lean towards the Alesis. I'll definitely have to try them both out first.
Great comparison! I weighed all of my options and bought the Alesis Strike Pro SE. Why? As you mentioned, it's like a TD-50KV for around $2500-2600 vs. $8000 Roland charges for the TD-50. I really like that the Alesis has all of the toms, bigger drum heads, tons of kits, great sound kits, and 8 different outs! I record primarily with a Tascam Model 24 before getting anywhere near a DAW and I love that I can separate kick, snare, cymbals, toms, etc. as separate outs to the Model 24 and mix those with guitar, vox, bass, etc. before I switch to a DAW for final production.
The TD-50 has separate outs but yeah, $8,000.
Wouldn't the Alesis USB out also work to send audio to a DAW? I know the Roland can send audio through USB, but that ties you to a DAW. I specifically like that the Alesis lets me send out my various drum components to the Tascam Model 24 without any DAW involved, and I can add FX to each separate track (kick, snare, etc.) in the DAW once I'm ready for final production. I can even move those audio samples around if the mood strikes, or record new parts in the DAW (same as Roland), but the separate outs really help if you prefer a recording mixer as I do.
With the Tascam Model 24, you can also move those parts between mixers. So, I can record my guitar, vox, bass, lead guitar on one Tascam Model 24, move the SD Card to the drum room and then record on dedicated drum channels which differ from the originals. Then I can mix the entire song on the Tascam as much as I want. This is where the separate outs on the Alesis really shine if you don't want to be stuck in a DAW during the initial inspired songwriting process. Of course if you have drums in the same room as everything else you only need one mixer such as the Model 24, but you can use two seamlessly. Per Tascam's manuals, you can even move songs from smaller mixers (such as the Model 12 or 16) to a Model 24 and vice versa. It will populate as many channels per song as there's room to do so.
I also just love the LOOK of the Alesis. As you've mentioned, it's got stage presence and I really like the red sparkly metallic finish. So nice. Even if I had a ton of choices here I'd probably still go with the red.
@Shane Apple Very!
@@spacep0d I almost bought one yesterday, Have you had any HH or drum trigger issues at all? Thank you.
@@user-zt1er1uj6i No issues!
Glad to find this video. I'm replacing the module on my edrums which are rolands. My TD-20 expanded module is very limited and to upgrade to the td30 isn't much of an upgrade for roughly $1500+. I just got a sweet deal on the Alesis strike module and can't wait to get it.
Did you get it yet? How do you like it so far?
@@johndef5075 long story. Yes I bought the Strike. I could never get my hi hat to work. It would never close. I adjusted sensitivity but nothing. One of my cymbals would never work. When I hit the snare I got cymbal crosstalk. After watching countless videos and questions on forums, I gave up. Sent it back to Sweetwater who was awesome to refund my money. I ended up finding a super deal on a TD30. Is it the answer? No. But, it’s quite an upgrade from the TD20X.
Hey Justin! Can you make a video on the strike module played with Roland pads/cymbals?? Are the sounds of the strike better overall?
Great video .. can you do a similar one comparing strike se against ATV of similar price?
Great comparison! If Alesis can match Roland on triggering, that would be awesome. I’d love to check out the analogue recording over USB on the Roland module. It’s great that the SP has direct outs, but it’s annoying having stereo pairs for toms and cymbals while mixing. Alesis has them best on sounds for sure, and I love having the physical faders on the module. I’ve been playing my acoustic set more the last few months and when I play the SP, I am disappointed with the triggering, but I don’t think any e-kit comes close to real drums for dynamics. Do you know if Alesis makes those heads? Did they fee similar to the Drumtec real feel?
Fantastic video..love my Strike.. everything you said in there was true, you forgot one thing to mention, the color scheme on the Alesis just pops!
How has it held up so far and how are the high hats?
Foot switch MASSIVELY beneficial if you want to switch between single or double kick (hi hat control) One hit of the foot switch and you’ve got closed hats for double bass play, then hit it again to revert to controlled hats. Before, I had to flick the kit over to a dedicated double kick kit on the module. The Alesis does sound like it has the better drum samples though?
You made a point to the mesh heads on the alesis set - how do you think they compare to the tripple ply on the pd-140ds snare and i belive the new roland floor tom? I completely agree on the older roland pads that they are just complete trampolines, it is especially jarring on the pdx-100 "floor tom". I don't know if the new roland toms use tripple ply or if they've just stuck to their old mesh.
I was torn between these two, but for my needs the Roland fits the bill much better. I record demo's at home. Space savings are important. The smaller footprint and knowing that I won't be transporting this kit from my home studio is consideration number 1. Rolands digital snare and ride, higher resale value as percentage of original sale price along with notoriously fantastic and sturdy build quality are consideration number 2. Taking some cue's from the ultra high quality TD-50 with Bluetooth, and the ability to send out 28 tracks of data via USB helps massively as I also integrate into my DAW so that was my 3rd consideration. In my opinion, the Alesis kit is very 80's looking and just screams "cheap" to me. The shininess isn't alluring to me. The addition of more cymbal and tom pads and the color screen, that essentially adds nothing to the playability, seems like another attempt at Jack of All Trades, Master of None. You mention triggering differences, and that is a major consideration from my perspective. The whole idea is to get a non-digital "feel" from Electronic set, and to just know without thinking about it, that the Roland will respond accordingly, all the time. I need that fluidity and confidence. The Roland to me is the Acura of drum sets. You know you're getting high quality, dependability and good if not great perfomance. The Alesis is the Dodge Charger (V6 version). It looks great and has potential for high performance and does some things pretty well, but It doesn't give you the feeling of high quality and great re-sale value. Which one will still be kicking ass in 7-10 years? I'd put my money on the Roland.
In my opinion the Alesis has way better sounding crashes and tombs the hi hat is a little weird but you get used to it so again my opinion but.edit this comment was late at night and i was fanboyin lol
@@steezyboiiii808 if you have the Alesis, im not knocking it. I really was torn between them for several weeks before pulling the trigger. I'm sure the Alesis will fit the bill for many folks. But one hidden unexpected surprise that I found within the TD27, is the ability to tweak everything to your hearts content. Some stock sounds are "meh". A few are really, really great, and some are outright bad. But, I got the same impression from the Alesis, and Roland makes the very best snare and ride in the business as far as I can tell. I added an extra tom and cymbal splash, upped the kick pad to a bigger/better model, and now I am beyond happy with every practice and recording session..
Don McNevin yes that’s a good argument. And I know you weren’t crap in on it lol
@@70mcnevin i feel like if roland gave you bigger tombs and 3 crashes it would be perfect but i hope you enjoy it and have much success with it
I just did the same thing and went for the Roland bundle from sweetwater. I would like to upgrade the bass drum and add one more cymbal but other than that I think I made the right choice. I do think the alisis has better sounds but I don't want a broken set in a year.
Great Review Justin! Alesis is getting better but I'm still a Roland Fan, for many reasons including quality and resale value.
I love Roland drums too
well you pay more so resale should be more
@@motodrummer My Roland stuff has lasted decades. I wonder what an Alesis Strike would look like in 10 years.
@@johndef5075 that is the thing. I owned a budget kit years ago, it lasted a year.
Thank you so much for the video
Thanks Justin! Always come through for me right as I’m deciding to buy these two,last time was the 25kv vs strike pro,went with Roman last time, believe I will go with alesis this time! Thanks buddy,love the channel for like 3-4 years now
Great video! I'm interested in the Alesis. Just a quick question please. Have you tried connecting the Alesis to ezdrummer or superior drummer? I'm especially interested to know if the cymbal chokes work in superior/ez drummer. Thanks again!
Hey Justin, I’m on the fence between the Roland vad506 and the Alesis SE myself and was hoping you had some advice on that either or scenario? Also, is it possible to swap out the heads for acoustic heads and play a gig on the Alesis or 506 acoustically? That would solve a ton of issues
Does the Strike still have long load in times for the kits and the effects when switching between kits as a live player it was my biggest gripe, some of the load in times were 35 40 seconds..I'm glad they fixed so many of the problems. I'm an original Strike owner and I could write a book on the negative experience I had with this kit. I'm still using the pads but have been using a TD 30 Module for two years now ..I'm still fixing the odd pad for various problems but it seems to be holding up Ok ...thank you for all of your video's you have been great help thru my Elec. drum journey
Nice video! I'm liking the Alesis!
That is all I wanted on Christmas 😩
Hey Justin, how did you find the new Roland cymbals? Did they feel better to play with now that they're made lighter or is it not that much of a difference?
Personally I would take a standard strike pro (my current kit) over the td-27kv. It's just far more enjoyable to play the 5-piece kit with an extra cymbal; plus, with the exception of the ride, most of the pads are significantly larger. The module also sounds much better in my opinion. If you're serious about hardware longetivity and already have a drum VST or like Roland sounds then go for the td-27 though.
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Am I the only one that noticed the bass drum didn't trigger?
Well done, Alesis.
en el minuto 13 tampoco
Yea lol just shows you Roland triggering is well worth the money :3
@@sergiomataloni802 si
I own a strike pro se and have never experienced a trigger fail.
@@homewardboundphotos wow impressive how long have you had it for
It would be nice to see how the ATV EXS-5 stacks up in comparison to those two sets.
Haukur Þórsson it would
it would be nice if ATV still sold in the USA.
If only they sold those kits in the us
Do you know of there is a difference at all in the alesis module from original to se
@@chriscasarcia9341 No its the same.
great vid, thanks!
Thank you thank you. So damn helpful 💪
Hey i have been looking into getting an edrum set to send to my computer through midi to play on a daw. which Brand or models do you think is best? i am trying to get as low of a price as possible. i would prefer to have a hi hat on a stand and a more realistic bass drum. i have been deciding between the Alesis Strike Pro, and the Alesis Strike Kit. was thinking about the Roland TD-17KVX and dealing with the smaller bass. also not sure if the Alesis Strike Pro listed on guitar center is the original with problems or its been updated. thanks for any advice.
What would be the cheapest way to get a two zone ride on a Alesis Command Mesh? Could you split inputs and just upgrade the cymbal or would you need the upgraded module?
Thanks I’m going to get the Alesis strike
I really like the 27. I own a 17 a 9 and a DM 10. I think I will sell all of them and get a Strike module. I don't mind Roland sounds but buying the 27 and having to shell out the money for the snare and the ride being I own a full set of ATV cymbals (Besides the hi-hat I have VH-11) just doesn't make sense. What do you guys think?
As a long-time intermediate drummer, the Alesis Strike Pro SE is amazing and worth the money.
Justin,
Great video as usual. You favor the Strike Pro SE over the TD27KV, but is it worth the extra expense compared to the TD17KVX which I know you really like from other videos. Is it worth $900 more?
Justin I'd be interested as well in your answer
Great review
So can you connect the Alesis to your PC/DAW through USB and have full control? That part wasnt clear. Also, can you extend the inputs of the module using another module without having to use split cables, i heard its possible?
I'm wondering about your latency comments and where in the chain that hit exists. That is to say, if being used to send MIDI to a DAW, would that be sent without most of the latency hit that the processed sound would incur, thus shifting any latency hit to the DAW and audio interface?
Thank you for such a great in-depth review!
I would love to see a comparison of the Strike Pro SE to VAD506. Not sure which one to get. I really like the idea of hybrid edrums.
my exact issue today trying to find what will work best.
VAD is better. The triggering is next level and it has so many mixing options. They also look absolutely insane and the cymbals are real size. The ride is insane you choke it by placing your hand on top of it
Hey Justin, thanks for another great video. My question is which one is quieter?? In your opinion. i live in a flat
Hard to say, it was really loud when I played both kits
Awesome video. I looked but couldn't find the answer. At about 1:13 of the video, did you miss the bass drum hit or did it just not register in the module? I really want this Strike Pro SE kit, but triggering issues such as that (if that was the case) are a deal breaker. Wicked playing as always!
Never mind, another video of yours addresses this. If it is fixable within the module, I am in.
I"ve been going back and forth. This review was So helpful. I loved the Alesis kit because it was like sitting at my acoustic right off the bat. I also felt the Roland sounded like samples from the early 2000's. It just sounds fake. I will be ordering the Alesis, and hoping they last a good while.
Did you get them already? Considering the same myself....
Same question.. please reply
Hey Justin, great information! I did notice you have in writing on the screen that the TD-27 has Positional sensing! Is that an error in print or is that True? I was told it does not have Positional sensing? Please let me know for sure before I make my final choiuce for which module I am going to purchase.
I have tried the Roland TD27KV and i must say i was impressed, only thing i wasn´t so sure of was the Hi-hat, it didn´t respond very well.
Maybe it had to do something with the settings, i don´t know. Does anyone know if the hi-hat of the TD-50KV is much better than the TD27KV one ?
Would it be possible to connect a TD-50KV hi-hat to a TD27KV module ?
Hey Justin! Which module has the lowest latency for working with Superior Drummer 3? I'm considering the Alesis Strike Pro SE or the new Roland VAD506. Any tips would be great! Thanks!
Which brand would you trust on stage if it's your only kit at a gig? Alesis failed me in the middle of a song at a live gig when I relied on their Strike Multipad to trigger a tambourine and clap sound on two different pads I'd hit during an important bridge section (it was on a stand next to my acoustic kit). I exchanged it for a Roland SPD-SX the following Monday and have only been using Roland ever since that happened in late-2019.
Hi, what is your suggestion for me? I need a digital drum set, I do not mind about the sounds at all, but I do care about the better triggers, and also the feeling in terms of playing a real drum (best feeling on the mesh) Which is the drum you suggest me?
Did alesis finally get rid of the machine gunning snare issue, or the random trigger cutout issue? It's the one thing I hate about my old kit and has me hesitating to hit up alesis in the future. Glad to see you still going, Justin. Great vid.
Judging just from this video, the Alesis has very minor machine gunning. It's slight and you kinda have to be really listening for it to notice, though it's more noticeable at 13:45. The Roland to my ears is much worse. I don't know if it's the way these were set up but to me the Alesis sounds much better.
@@mattyb.5628 Sure as heck sounds a lot better than my command kit :V Hopefully there is no cross triggering issue either, but I couldn't imagine Alesis would let that fly on their flagship kits.
Hi there Justin,
I’m impressed with the Alesis, can it be used with an acoustic kit with mesh head’s successfully, and if so, which triggers and mesh heads would you choose please?
I’m really hoping for a new kit soon. In the meantime I have a TD-12. Will a dongle like the one you have in this video work w/ my TD-12?
-The Frank 🥁
I purchased the SE a few years ago and am very happy with it, don't regret anything. So like with most E-kits, no matter how quality a cymbal pad is, they will never be able to register every note depending on speed and strength. I use a double pedal so obviously it's better to have a 2-legged hi hat stand, which will still move when I hit it but that decreases it's ability to register while you're just rockin on it, so I got a clamp and hooked the hi hat stand to the actual rack for the kit, so now it doesn't move at all, and it registers better. It's not like a night and day change but you will definitely notice.
Man.Those Alesis kits sound great and live/record ready.. Not a big fan of Roland modules sound quality..
Your right like listen to the Tom's in the very first clip they sound like cardboard boxes and there's no difference in pitch at all Roland sucks idk what these to idiots are talking about^^^^^
The alesis has a lot of bad reviews.
when you actually play alesis it doesnt feel great. bounce and all. (tuning them didnt really make them work like rolands) and yes there are pros and cons to everything but to make it how you want it to sound, while sounding pretty real, roland wins hands down. they got pre - sets setup nicely with hi hat decays sounding natural and all. alesis, yamaha they just even come close! I would say best 2 electronic drums thats out in the market ATM is ATV and roland. go figure.
@@LordBeavington You're coming at it from the drummers ( Feel) perspective. All I'm saying and a lot of people have said thru out the years is that Roland Sound Modules suck! And, that the new Alesis Module sounds better.
I'll add as well. FOr the money Roland is asking for their brains, they should not be using "Compressed" sound sources. aka sample. For that money, the Roland Modules should be up there with the Pearl Mimic and Software ( $300.00) Drummers like Superior Drummer3. As a Producer, I've purchased and tested a lot of Roland Drum Modules, and it's both sad, pathetic, and downright insulting that in the year 2020! They ( Roland) area still producing BS! Low- quality sound Modules at a F#@k@ Premium price tag.
And, Year after Year everyone keeps asking, why are they pricing this crap so high!, when they haven't upgraded the sound source at all!
the td27 sounds like drum sounds from the 90s
I know Alesis has had durability issues over the years, but that they've changed their build quality. Does the Pro SE solve the durability and triggering issues for the most part?
After much deliberation (especially after the teething troubles of the previous model), got my Strike Pro SE six weeks ago, and I'm never looking back - you just get so much more bang for your buck over the Rolands. OK, only time will tell on longevity - feels very solid and up for a beating, but I'm not a thrasher. To my ears, its sounds great out-of-the box, but the level of customisation, sampling and editing options on the module is insane and will certainly keep me busy over the coming months of god-knows-what.
hows it going now? I know it's only been 2 months but still
Could you please give us an update on this?
Hey there. Any current update on how this has held up for you? Cheers!
What's that fill you're doing from 0:04 to 0:16? Sounds cool