I Didn't Think I Would Like THIS! - HP ENVY All-in-One
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
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Apple always dominates all-in-one computers, but other brands have excellent offerings if you don't like the macOS ecosystem. For example, this HP Envy line has some impressive features, but it feels slightly a last year device, even though it's releasing this year. Nevertheless, it can still give remarkable performance.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - I'm in trouble
0:20 - Unboxing
1:15 - Exterior first impressions
2:35 - What's behind the panel?
3:54 - Stand impressions
4:05 - Apple rant
5:05 - Is it a peel?
6:00 - Sponsor - MANSCAPED!
6:33 - Powering it on
7:18 - Connecting the webcam
8:01 - Display specs
9:05 - More specs
10:00 - Display impressions
10:25 - Speaker impressions
11:27 - Webcam impressions
12:40 - Gaming impressions
13:31 - Final thoughts - Наука та технологія
Holy smokes, is this an actually decent AiO? I'm honestly impressed. I didn't think I'd ever see something like this. I'm not the target audience for this, but as far as these things go, this seems really well put together. Also, it's kind of impressive that it manages to remain so quiet under load
Lenovo's ThinkCenters are cool too
Bout time we have some decent windows AIO
The fact that you can add RAM and a drive, which honestly is all most people would ever even want to add, with all that I/O makes this a really impressive AIO. I could easily see recommending this for someone's home office or the like.
Also, the fact that it has a HDMI output means that once the screen dies, you can still use it with an external monitor. Which is something I always hated about other AiO where if the screen died, go buy a new one.
Maybe GN should buy this for their next pre-built review. Not a tower but can it possibly be worse than Dell or Alienware? XD (yes, internet, I'm aware this isn't a gaming PC, this is a joke thank you.)
Putting F in the chat for Anthony's troubles with Apple being cut.
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"Apple used to care."
Only about money 😂
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LMG clips pleeeease
I loathe Apple but I love Horst's hosting style, he's great. The vibe of everyone dropping in for fun is amazing, and that genuine laugh in the speaker bit was hilarious.
This is one of the best short circuits in a long while. I like this format and the fun aspect of this a lot more. Also anthony, alex, and jono are hella awesome put together 😂👍
Noted!
Still want to see a display INPUT being normalised in these things so you can still use it as a monitor when the built in hardware is out of date and too slow. My displays always outlast multiple pcs
You buy more up to date monitors than me lol. I need a new monitor for my 2019 PC atm.
Yeah building AIOs without display in should be straight up illegal. It would cost basically nothing and would keep tons (literally) of hardware out of landfills
yup! I have an old dell inspiron ONE AIO and I only use it as a monitor these days since the pc components have had alot of failures. still a strong monitor too
Honestly, we need that mandated by law. The amount of e waste from perfectly good displays on iMacs that cannout be used anymore is insane.
im still using an hp monitor from 2011, 1440 / 900. works perfectly fine for me, and has lasted more than 4 of my pc's. no regrets
Not gonna lie, I dig the stand. It seems like a great place for USB ports.
Why is it controversial that you like the stand? Or why did you feel the need to say that you won’t lie?
@@PSUC3 Some people don’t like having cords coming out of their stand, and not gonna lie is just a figure of speech. Partially seems like you’re reaching to start some internet drama here
@@PSUC3 DRAMA QUEEEEEEN!!!!!
@@hunteramendolea8737 it’s cable management in the stand. I think that’s standard for most monitors. Figure of speech or not, I thought it was used in controversial topics. Like “not gonna lie, I love the feeling of wet socks”
Rather than, “not gonna lie, I like ice cream”.
I feel that OP’s post would sound better without those 3 words, but maybe I misunderstood the meaning and the reason behind not gonna lie.
@@PSUC3 I believe OP was talking about the stand having dedicated ports, not specifically the loop cable management you would typically see on most monitors. But I understand the perspective you’re seeing it from my guy. Have a nice day!
That "auto ring light" is a reasonable function, I used to flip my side monitors to some random bright mode page to get the same effect, and it is good as room lights usually don't illuminate your face when you're at the desk.
This is such a thought-out design, way to go HP
its ugly and it should be free
Makes a great change from their older AiOs, I have one sitting in my shop and its a monstrosity and massive external power brick. This new one does limit its repairability in a big way though.
I love the vibe on these past ShortCircuit video with people like Jonathan coming in and doing stuff randomly. Feels like you're hanging out with some friends exploring fun tech stuff!
Exactly, its so refreshing to see this sort of atmosphere
I came here to say the same thing, just a fun vibe in this video
ya, getting rando's hot takes are always nice imo. and Jonathan is cool, even if he doesn't have a soul (SouthPark ginger reference, not to be confused with a dig at Apple)
Anthony talking specs and finishing off with "And if that HDMI port isn't 2.1 compliant, I am coming for you." had a bit of Terence Fletcher from Whiplash over it.
I enjoy the way Anthony just opens up the floodgates with his opinions if he feels something should have been done or built differently. It's so... Refreshing.
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The additional features of this PC are so well thought through! Its like a PC manufacturer actually thought about what people would want?? Weird. I would've liked to have seen a Gaming experience with an external GPU seeing as it has thunderbolt
It has a 3080 option it might be pretty good for gaming
Very neat for an AIO for sure
That is a surprisingly decent all-in-one.
Buuuuuut… it costs 3k lol
@@sohailu8058 im impresse at this price, they dont put 32Go of RAM and only 1TB (SSD) this price is insane...
@@sohailu8058 It literally says $2199 US at about 14:10, which is about £1,785 or 2107 euros. However looking this up in the UK gives a price of £2,499.98 ($3080us) for the same model and specs, so as usual US prices are lower.
Truly! This is the first one that has actually make me want to recommend it to AIO preferring Clients
Not for $3k lmao
This actually looks so nice and put together. No massive flaws.
the unique monitor, super-good (for IPS), glossy!
@@ViggsPR its not glaring though its anti glare ,its just theyr in a studio full of halogen lighting
@@ViggsPR SHUT UP AND TAKE MY LIKE !
Its $3k!
@@foxh8er not a flaw, it’s price actually makes sense! You get a huge 5k creative display alongside fairly high end parts, all within a small footprint, an argument could be made that the gpu is a mobile gpu and that technically could be seen as a “flaw” but I’d see it as more of “buy this for what you’re gonna use it for” type situation, light gaming? yeah! Mainly color accurate for creative hobbyists and creative work? definitely, you wouldn’t buy a system at 60hz if you gonna be doing competitive gaming, that’s the buyers fault for not doing research imo.
I absolutely LOVE and enjoy how funny, sarcastic yet thorough Anthony always is when it comes to inspecting and describing technology. He is literally a Magician and with such awesome attitude everyone else around him seem to be happier as well. Great job bro! Keep it up and do more videos like these please :)
You're a natural talent for this!
Any video with Anthony in it is just super fun to watch. His rants are always relatable.
The number of times "it looked cool" was used as a defense makes this worthwhile.
I literally saw one of these being delivered to the company above mine. They had it specced out massively too. I asked the owner why they chose that one… “it’s cool and I can”. Love to see a full review of it as it looked so good in person!
Pretty good reason tho
@@PhazzeeYeehaw Can't argue with that
@@jeffiouswonderus2600 she told me today it’s also so she doesn’t need to get a separate monitor and worry about having the right cables etc. when you have the money I guess it makes sense lol
Ngl it's really good package overall. Hope it comes with everything Anthony suggested, especially a 200w 3080ti
@@mcslender2965 version they got was 3060 in it. £700 less than absolute max version apparently. Thing is she’s a lawyer so not sure why she needs a graphics card like that anyway but when you got the money…
I really like how Jonathan just makes his way into half of the Short Circuits now lol
Love ya Anthony, I’m glad you let us get to know you more in the videos you host, you shine bright and we Can notice you’re becoming a great host and are more comfortable being in the center which is honestly an awesome character development arch lmao
That webcam actually looks kinda sick, plus the easily upgradable RAM is a neat feature
Neat, yeah, but also kind of obvious. Honestly, If you asked me to design this I probably would find a way to also add a door for a PCIe-card, at least half-height. That way Anthony could get his 10G-Ethernet in there, easily.
@@ShieTar_ You need to design it in a way to keep the clean aesthetics. Seems like this product is targeted towards people who prefer the clean look.
I'm mean they mentioned it a lot in the video that they bought it because it looked cool.
People don't upgrade ram. It's been proven. The only time is happens in any appreciable amount is when someone buys the lower model, and more RAM at the same time, and immediately installed it. To save the $300 to go from the 8 gig to the 16 gig model, they buy 8 gig model and $120 worth of ram at the same time, and save $150. Other than that, people aren't upgrading ram down the road. This is the same as the comment about adding display in for AIO computers, so they can be used as monitors after that. The same as the tiny group of people that want sports cars and supercars to have manual transmissions. That tiny group of people are statistically irrelevant. Most of the time the vocal ones aren't even in the market for a supercar, so their opinion is even more irrelevant. Same goes for the ram and monitors. The vocal people are generally enthusiasts who would never buy an AIO anyways. So they would never be in the situation to use it as a standalone monitor anyways.
@@littlejackalo5326 I mean, I upgrade RAM down the road.
Granted, I also drive cars with manual transmissions, so there's that.
@@themiddlecase coming from somewhere that isn't North America, that flex is hilarious. In most places that's like saying you ride a bicycle rather than a tricycle
This has to be one of Anthony’s best unboxings😂
It's legendary.
fr, he got so natural in front of the camera. He is at his peek right now imo.
I am loving other hosts just casually entering the video and having some inputs. Adds more to the video.
I really like how this is packaged from a hardware perspective. The small things like the magnetized covers, the wire management, and the phone charger are kinda cool. I had a Surface Studio for productivity and it was completely sealed and impossible to open.
I love Jonathan cameos.
I wish they didn't ask him to leave whenever it happens because I find his interactions with other LMG members very entertaining. I think LMG already knows that members interacting with each other makes for better videos, I just wish Jonathan appeared in more of them.
Yeah we need someone to bully, its been a while since colton or dennis were the punching bags.
@@RisingRevengeance You shouldn't bully anyone. Except maybe Linus but he's the boss he can handle it.
I’ve messed with one of these and for a AIO system it’s pretty solid. The fact it can run Doom on ultra in 1440p with solid 60fps is way more than enough for such a system that’s more built for casual or productivity use. Yet still do some good gaming on the side at lower res or settings.
@@PowrUsr. Yep, and to be able to do that storage and ram upgrade so easily is extremely nice. I doubt many who buy/need this system will likely not even need it. But the fact that you easily can makes it a much sweeter purchase to last much longer.
Hopefully with the steamdeck and other handhelds becoming more popular games will have decent settings for lower-end systems for a while to come
12:20 POV You are the peel peeled by Anthony
my fantasies fulfilled.
12:17
decades with electronics, and this is something i've never seen. thank you :)
14:18 Anthony is on another level. Treating his grandparents with a sick gaming pc
What an absolute legend
sick gaming pc? wtf
Yeah, that happens when you've got money ):
@@dartht4719 get a JOB
@@idkanymore3382 I have a fucking job, but I live in a third world country
@@dartht4719 your problem not mine poor boy
-Did you order it?
-Yeah
-Why?
-It looked cool
I really want to have a job with a freedom to answer questions like that😆
5:45 “COMPUTER… ON!” lmaooo
wait what this is actually good
the title was not clickbait, i am just as suprised as anthony
great video as always
Anthony: would buy this for my grandparents
Me: this is miles better than my gaming pc
Yeah, it's a sleek, quiet and fairly powerful AIO workstation. Can't really fault it for its type, other than the lack of video in.
It is a whole universe better than my computer that blue screens every 5 min...
Same, my friend, same.
That webcam was actually rather awesome with being able to move it to all sides. Looked and sounded(mic) pretty decent too.
Indeed, the webcam sound was a wow moment for me.
Otherwise it's a proper all round good machine mouse excluded.
Still wouldn't buy it though, as its still an HP.
@Adonis Biju Never been a fan of HP personally...HP were/still are cheap... good but cheap with bespoke mobos making most desktops upgrade path very limited. Even this AIO.
HP are not my cup of tea personally, and haven't been even in the Compaq days....although as said yes, I would probably recommend this to someone who doesn't know anything about computers, yet wants to own one (due to peer pressure for example) like my elderly parents.
Anthony was fiery for this whole episode and it was great 🤣
This thing looks super impressive, the IO was super well designed, the webcam is really smart as well. From the thumbnail I didn't get why it wasn't build in, but it absolutely makes sense.
I agree with Anthony, I wouldn't buy it for myself, but this is something I would recommend to someone who wants and AIO and has enough money to buy it.
4:22 I would like a uncut version of Anthony just talking about Apple for 1 hour. I would watch it like i would watch a Ted talk
In recent months, Anthony has soared to new heights of hosting. He’s always been really clear and has a great way of explaining very technical principles, but his persona and charisma has reached new levels of excellence. I always enjoy his videos. Well done my man!
Yeah, so much excellence in his Persona in fact, that he's saying stuff like "Apple used to care" to only spread toxic misinformation. He can criticize the SSD being soldered in in Macs, but there's a reason Apple uses soldered in memory in M1 Macs. The reason is they're using much faster and much more power efficient LPDDR memory. The LPDDR5 memory Apple uses in the new MacBooks and the Mac Studio runs at 6400MT/s, as fast as overclocked and much more power hungry DDR5. They can do that only because the memory is soldered in (not to mention in the same SoC package), so they can control the signal flow and integrity much better.
I'd say he's a good host however you need to back off a little bit, there's nothing special in this video. Actually, there's loads of annoying rants that it's just leading the pace of the video, and that's not great hosting. Is him even being that brilliant or changing our lives as he elaborate? No. Honestly you guys seem like you're all under his balls, it reeks as virtue signaling.
He sucks
@@rogerklk Agreed. It's the new hive mind opinion so now every comment is smoking his schlong. He's average at best. He's knowledgeable, but he has zero charisma.
You did the peel on the webcam, and the quality changed so much I noticed the smudges on my phone... Lol
I was looking to see if this had a glossy screen or not - and it does! Thank you! Glossy screen = better contrast, better colors, better blacks, more vivid, etc. SOLD!
That's actually really smart to have the webcam seperate, since then they don't need to worry about massive bezels and poor camera quality, and if you aren't using it, you can just take it off!
*69 minutes later*
Anthony: So YOU are telling ME that YOU THINK that this keyboard, which is not aluminum, unlike Apple's, looks BETTER than the Apple one which IS aluminum?
Jono, smiling all the way through: Yes :D
he spittin
This is very similar to the 2018 HP Envy 34” curved AIO which I’ve been using for 3 years. Same keyboard and screen/base design but with upgraded internals.
If I were setting up an office space with desktops this would be a great option! Love how clean it looks and the IO very is nice. The power is even enough for programming workflows.
Potential thing for the lab: how glossy is the display in conditions that aren’t studio lighting.
Something something reflectivity score relative to ambient/direct light?
I would love a full review of this. It truly is cool, and I also love (Despite loving Apple as well.) How much they just slap Apple around with the obvious good ideas.
Also I LOVE seeing everyone come on set. Especially MacAddress!
Excellent first episode of Pack-Address!
What more do you need to know? But wait for 12gen. It will be hugely more power efficient. Otherwise I think it is a practical little machine. The screen will out-life the other components probably in terms of performance so from a sustainability standpoint not the greatest. Just a word of caution, I own the 340c ultra-wide and had to turn the screen in for HP to replace the Bang olafsun speakers as one of the channels died after just a few months. They were good with some tweaking but if they break, your machine is kinda screwed.
@@TheBacktimer yep B&O speakers on HP sucks also in laptops...
This is a good AIO and some of the features it has is cool (like that auto-rotating camera, the I/O in the stand, and the wireless charger built into the base of the stand), but Anthony saying stuff like "Apple used to care" is just toxic misinformation. He can criticize the SSD being soldered in in Macs, but there's a solid reason why Apple used soldered in memory in M1 Macs. The reason is they're using much faster and much more power efficient LPDDR memory. The LPDDR5 memory Apple uses in the new MacBooks and the Mac Studio runs at 6400MT/s, as fast as overclocked and much more power hungry DDR5. They can do that only because the memory is soldered in (not to mention in the same SoC package), so they can control the signal flow and integrity much better.
@@utubekullanicisi Nah you are just arguing 2 extremes. The answer Anthony is referring to is something in the middle. Apple's choices do indeed have performance incentives. But make no mistake they are making those choices with an anti-consumer mindset.
00:35 phew.. Heads were about to roll!
This is actually amazing and something I'd consider had I not already built my own setup.
3:28 the look when Alex realizes Anthony is joking is excellent
11:00 I hate the fact that the deal between HP and B&O is heavily based on software. They do this on their laptops as well.
The problem is, say you want to stream/record you game and you don't have other speakers or headphones plugged in(i.e. you have to use the speaker on the monitor/laptop). You will end up streaming the altered version of the sound that sounds right to you but might sound weird to the viewers. You need to turn off the B&O software so that your viewers can hear the REAL sound but then it will sound horrible on your end.
Yeah I agree. And software eq adds latency as well. It's basically polishing a turd.
I've ordered one of these for my parents. Showed them both some reviews of it and they were happy. Just waiting for HP to actually process the order
5:44 JONO YOUR LAPTOP HOLDING IS GIVING ME ANXIETY
I used the same PC 24/7 for over a decade....anthony over here joking about opening last years tech...we live in different worlds
Man, I love the fact that Jonathan keeps coming in and out to check product whenever someone is unboxing products. Would really love to seem him do some by himself to instead of only Apple things
7:23 best duo ever , i would love to see them in more future videos
This is shockingly a great composed computer. Great hardware (user wise) and it's got some really nice features. That webcams awesome.
In my experience, I wouldn’t diss the wireless charger on the computer. Reason being ever since I bought my iPhone 13, I noticed my old wireless chargers do not work with the iPhone. I’m assuming the magnets on there are doing something to mess with the coils. Since you both tested with iPhones, that could be a reason why?
that'd be why, qi charging works off of magnetism.
It's because Apple disabled support for low powered qi chargers. New iphones with magsafe magnets use the same exact technology as every other qi phone and dock. The magnets have nothing to do with the qi coil. They did the same with the apple watch.
But qi works on EM tech right? Why does it have issues with other chargers that use the same tech? Or is there other compatibility issues?
I'm pretty sure the problem is that he didn't align it properly, and that charger is probably a single coil one. That's why Jonathan iphone started to charge while Anthony's didn't.
@@ViXoZuDo on my pixel charger whenever I put the 13 on it it lights up the screen but doesn’t actually charge. For some reason it shows like it does, however, if I do the same for my previous iPhone without MagSafe and the pixel, they both work like a charm. Which is why my conclusion is the MagSafe is the issue
10:09 you’re judging the hdr in a bright room!
I really don't mind Horst stopping by and brining some dynamic. Welcome him!!!
Hahaha...you chuck that power cable, Anthony. You chuck it hard. 😆
This is a really well written video. Neat camera work and commentary from the peanut gallery(looking at you, Jono!)
Having IO in in the stand is amazing, why isn't that a thing more?
Can we get a vesa mount monitor stand with a built in dock? I also love the SD card reader, they're pretty rare to be built into the device.
I love the chemistry between these guys.
This is an impressive All-in-one be good for a office set up or even schools maybe
If I had to choose a super minimalistic computer for work/entertainment and light gaming, this setup actually looks very compelling. The price is high, but the package is very well put-together.
If a company was paying, I would seriously consider it
Anthony just completely raging this whole video was exactly what I needed on a Monday
Nothing makes me happier than a hearing Crab Rave coming from any LTT or affiliated videos lol
Like how this episode just spiralled out of control half way through. 10/10
Anthony: Why do you buy last year's tech?
Me: Wow, cool!
Ugh, that hatch made me similarly angry. I remember when they removed the 21" iMac RAM upgrade hatch, it was such a blatant attempt to up-sell people to the 27" and a sign of things to come.
Also, the Qi charging stand would be the IDEAL SOLUTION TO APPLE'S STUPID MOUSE CHARGER.
Wow webcam and mic is super cool again. Two videos in a row. And I also like charging and io
Not sure if Anthony is hopped up on caffeine, but I’m digging this more aggressive unboxing!
Solid opening second, 10/10
I really like this approach of different staff coming to stare at a product and giving their impressions, especially Horst, who - as he said so himself - is mostly in this Apple world all day long which makes his input a nice contrast to the PC/Android folks on the team. Not that the awesomeness that is Anthony can be defined by being a fan of one platform or even seven.
Something similar has already been done with a couple of monitors impressions as far as I remember. I understand that people aren't just walking around the office twiddling their thumbs and have actual work to do but LMG has so much staff now - specialized staff - that an approach like this really pays dividence I find.
Horst is super annoying, imo. I'd rather he stay on the Apple side of things
HP really making all in ones good, actually impressed.
Good. An actually decent looking HP AIO. I love the SD card reader in the stand.
Anthony is trying so hard to keep that monitor clean but every time someone looks at it grows five new streaks
ANTHONY IS A GENIUS!! Can LTT start another channel call “Last Years Tech” where they review everyday tech that is a few generations older and more affordable for us normal people?
Hosted by someone who is normal too. Cause I strongly feel that every tech reviewer I follower loses touch with the normal persons needs. Including LTT, unbox therapy, mkbhd, even the every day dad.
I feel LTT is the only crew who can pull this off because any individual who starts a UA-cam channel needs to ride the high of bleeding edge tech to gain attention and succeed but LTT has an audience already and funding to make such a channel.
Alex just chilled there while Jono got shouted at for ordering old specs 😂😂
That webcam is better than any webcam ive seen reviewed on this channel💀
This is the best episode of ShortCircuit I have ever seen. Having Anthony host, lots of guests pop in, and taking it very lightheartedly.
Using the display as a digital ring light is actually really smart.
On snapchat if you take a picture with your front camera and flash on, the screen acts as a flash. Same concept and should be used more often
@@MrMW2nd Yes of course, same on iPhone, but I've never seen it applied to a full size display.
Horst is quickly becoming my favorite ShortCircuit host
That's probably *one* of the best webcams I've seen
F for Anthony
Well Jono will now get Anthony nightmares
Loved the "Peel from the other side"
@3:27 This dude kills me nearly every episode.. need more reviews... unboxings.. lol!
I really wish we could easily get a beautiful glossy finish like that on (relatively) cheap external 4K displays. I _hate_ matte displays.
Good job HP, this looks like a solid product!
but its OOOOOLLDDDD 32 gb minimum and 12th gen... 😤😤
OK I know this is a joke but from what I've seen, the people who need 32gigs or more already have access to servers with buckets of ram. What other single purpose work needs that much ram?
@@MrRinre I don't have any server. I do play games, and I've actually stuck with 32GB of ram for two generations in a row. My next will probably be a step up though, as I won't be getting a new rig for a few years most likely.
I don't really need 32GB, but I do play some games that get greedy, and including my other programs and the OS I've exceeded 18GB of ram at times. 24GB would probably be fine for me, but having some additional insurance is good.
I do occasionally do video encoding too, though not enough for me to really need 32GB, I think (Handbrake, 4K/60 usually).
Basically, better to have it and not need it, and need it and not have it. The cost difference between high speed 24GB and 32GB isn't that big, especially when you compare it to the cost of say, a flagship GPU.
Damn you're nice to your grandparents if you're buying them a PC like this!
legend has it that the real antony is still in the basement of ltt hq somewhere, having a permanent breakdown about apple.
The number of people remarking on how other companies are copying the built-in webcam on the Studio Display is hilarious. First, this is an all-in-one desktop, not a monitor. It’s common for AIOs to have webcams. Second, the Samsung S4 monitor has a webcam and was launched in September 2021, before the Studio Display. And *before that* in January, Dell launched a series of monitors with built-in cameras. Both companies were targeting the WFH audience that ballooned all of a sudden… for some reason.
The last Apple monitor with a webcam before that (Thunderbolt Display) was launched in 2011 and discontinued in 2016. But sure, whatever you say.
and even before that, Lenovo had a series of monitors that had built in webcams.... not to mention the niche market of AIO pc out there
This video was good Jono, keep up the good work.
Love the emotional breakdown segment!!
Those round webcams always reminds me of the Apple iSight camera. I think that would be a cool mod to replace the inside with a modern webcam.
I appreciate how objective Anthony is despite his initial thoughts. Good review and it's nice seeing Anthony back on screen again.
not really objective. the unique monitor, super-good (for IPS), glossy! I'd buy this because of it, and he just don't care.
Man, I love Anthony. Can't get enough of his videos! And that PC is kinda good, not gonna lie. The screen is a little too much and jacks up the price a little bit to much for me (a 1440p panel and 300 dollars cheaper would suit me better), but it's good.
I really appreciate that quick access expansion.
That's a real neat computer that I'll never think about again.