Killzone 2 Collab Review - helldivers 2
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helldivers 2 & Killzone 2 Weapon & Armor Review part 1
OhDough, you called it. Putting weapons/stratagems or unique items in the super store is them slowly testing the water. Again, "we don't want fomo guys." I blame Sony.
Shams literally confirmed the pricing and choice to put the items in the store is 100% on arrowhead.
@@Shadowdash66X stop blaming Sony AH is not blameless dog
@@JQuackenbush-eh5jbtypically for random to blame the devs for everything that ever happens
@@nahfr. Honestly, people need to stop giving Arrowhead this scapegoat of just blaming Sony for literally every problem. -When most of the problems would be occurring even without Sony as the publisher.
It’s literally a collab, they are meant to be fomo, if you don’t want them then don’t get them it’s that simple lol.
I've never in my life seen a company jumping between redemption and pure stupidity like this one...
It's a constant tug of war between actual developers who have to dive into all the spaghetti code for a minor fix and greedy corporate executives that care only about numbers in their financial declaration
@ferdithetank7535 no it's not lol
@@nahfr. That's pretty much true words spoken about just anything or any company growing. Yes it is. It very much is.
@Gundolf300 oh ok
Wait, theres supposed to be two pages? This one already costs the equivalent of two warbonds, what the fuck is this shit.
The monetization reeks of Sony interference.
Concord tax
That’s maybe because Guerilla games (the dev of Killzone) gets royalties from the collab
Concord tax
nah, Shams said its entirely on them
it's a collab in which the stuff is optional to get because nothing is better than what exists rn
These people have continually proven to not care about their players and people still glaze them and blame Sony. Crazy
Concord Tax 💀
GOAT
Real
😂😂
So far the only genuinely good thing (imo) out of Concord is that episode from Secret Level.
TLDR: Arrowhead themself did this, not sony. At the end it should've just been a higher priced warbond if they really need that money or if in reality this is the "concord tax". or hell make it a "DLC pack", like in Helldivers 1
its not because of a collab, Sham himself admitted that the price hike was purely Arrowheads decision.
also sham spokje a thinly veiled threat that if the items didn't sell enough in the store, we wouldn't get "ulluminate like content" for free in the future.
"illuminate like", as in an entire faction. imagine the playerbase being split by those whio CAN fight the new stuff and those that cant, imagine how that'd harm the galactic map?
note: Sham's previous dev work was as a developer for Paradox Games... yes THAT Paradox Games, the one that shoves 100's of dollars of DLC in everything they make at ridiculous prices.
it should've been a warbond like it was leaked, now imagine the OTHER HALF is also going to be double the price of a warbond. so you spend 40 bucks on a crossover in the FOMO store.
if it was a warbond, hell i'll even be "nice" to AH and Sony, that was double or TRIPLE the price of a regular one? noone would've batted an eye. but no. it just feels worse this way especially when we can't make back some of the SC's
as for the actual content yeah, the passive on the armor is meh, the gun is hilariously mid for the price and DOESNT even have the guns iconic underbarrel shotgun. and the wasp is....around.
Honestly, the trust with Shams and Arrowhead is dwindling. I used to be a starry eyed devoted HD2 player, but seeing how Arrowhead and HD2 has been... Unfurling into an ugly thing, and Shams saying prolly the worst shit he could say in Discord, like I think he should rightfully shut up before he gets the studio in deeper waters lol
It's absolutely insane with how all this is coming to. At this rate, Sony is just an abusive father, and Arrowhead is reflecting that towards their player base.
It should have just been a normal Warbond that has the same price as all the other ones, there's no reason for the price increase aside from greed.
so that thing should be an underbarrel shotgun? LAME
"illuminate like content" the amount of bugs and jank and they want to pretend its a premium product is icing on the cake 😂
BTW since the video was made it was confirmed AH set the prices and decided to go with the store rather than a warbond, Sony is not to blame.
“My source is i made it the fuck up”
We need to be harsh. There are several issues with this:
1. This should NOT be on the fomo-inducing store, it should be a permanent, optional DLC or made available in an actual Warbond with other content.
2. The AR is creatively bankrupt at this point. Like come on, why is it basically a reskinned, standard Liberator with Light Armor Penetration?
3. Yet another boring AR shows how lame all the ARs are. Every single AR should go up in Armor Penetration category, minus special versions like Liberator Carbine which is almost like a pseudo SMG & Liberator Penetrator which should do Heavy Armor Pen.
4. The entire armor system needs a massive rework & they need to allow some version of armor crafting, where we can change the armor buffs around. It's ultra lame as it is and I am NOT going to spend money on armor DLC.
5. The prices on these things can no longer be considered "micro" - these are macrotransactions.
I agree with everything you just typed. But to add onto point 4 the game director says “muh classes” despite armour passives being mostly hot garbage aside from the new armour passive and medic armour.
@@ElfireII The really frustrating thing is, this is now the community's game. They need to take a note from Space Marine 2 devs. & change their internal philosophy; they are providing a SERVICE to their playerbase. Additionally, they really shouldn't take this game so seriously, unlike SM2 where changes have to be signed off by Games Workshop.
Liberator Penetrator with heavy pen would be too much honestly. Agreed on other points though
@@ElfireIII don’t mind the extra grenades for certain builds and the viper commando perk.
@@aashilr to be fair, microtransactions stoped being micro about 15 years ago.
AH fangirls need to grow up and understand that having parasocial relationship with a game company is a bad idea.
For the record, I doubt this collab cost Sony anything... because it's a Sony game. Which should literally cost them nothing.
We shouldnt buy stuff from this content drop if we want them to lower the prices.
Too bad not many are doing this. Alot of people gotta CONSOOOOOM I guess
Imagine if they added a heavy armor set that grants 2 primary slots instead of a secondary, or dual secondary but its behind a paywall in the store
Don’t give them ideas 😅
Warbond - cost 1k, 3 pages of stuff, you get 300 sc back
Superstore - cost 1.9k, less than one page of warbond, time gated, no cash-back
What a deal!
Escalation of Greed
At least you can finally now play as the good guys in Helldivers 2
100% was arrowheads decision to do this, they have shown time and time again to never trust them.
Save your supercredits boys.....
Spent most of mine for this last WB, I don't farm like some of these guys because I already had a full time job.
@@hawk9mm good choice, if you where to buy the entire store for 2k it would take about 10 hours of active grinding on lvl 1 missions
Havent bought a WB since Polar Patriots until the Uban Legends WB dropped. Unless it brings useful items Im not touching anything
@icedoutskynight maybe if I was guaranteed to get 50 sc per run maybe but at this point I maybe see 20 or less. Sometimes none at all.
@@icedoutskynightI HUST grinded 770 in just over one hour. It was with a team of 4 but still it’s totally doable haha
The solution would be to make it so we can equip any passive on any armor. I hate having to pick armor based off of perks.
No, it will make armor design pointless. Real solution is one fixed passive, one changeable passive, for example, Medic armor can’t change its stim buff, but you can change whether it gives you extra stim or genade or faster reload etc.
@@AlaiasAliasor just balance passives a bit and move the minor ones to helmets
@@AlaiasAlias Strange how Destiny has been doing moddable gear.. I think since D1 and that hasn't been an issue for "armor design" so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I don't like this. The pricing is so, SO awful, the designs break from the established style by being just a straight rip of the hellghast designs from killzone, and of course as you stated putting weapons in the premium store is no bueno.
I just don't get this company, it's like they HAVE to shoot themselves in the foot every time they recover from a controversy they caused from a previous instance of shooting themselves in the foot. What is their problem? Just... Stop fucking shit up while you're ahead!
Pricing is fine
@@gamerbeast3616 .... Said the whale.
First time we see Killzone content in like a decade and it's microtransaction cosmetics and another ceremonial gun in Helldivers 2. We saving two games with this one, boys.
but Steller blade and COD did this too
@IsaacChoo88 at least it was purely cosmetic in cod.
tbf i was hoping the rifle and the smg was a Cosmetic that will switch animation when skin is apply. cuz it no point of buying it which is very god damn expensive from a non-killzone fan POV
@@IsaacChoo88 I had no idea. Something to look forward to when Stellar Blade drops on PC, I guess.
Redditors defending this colab tooth and nail
Thats Not true the whole helldivers sub hates it
This entire game has been consistently disappointing, they go through waves of doing something good and then immediately killing any good will, I haven’t played in 8 months because I’m still waiting on the shocking lack of cross progression but I’ve been checking in and it’s literally every other update, it’s comical
The grenade launcher on the assault rifle being unusable is hiliarious and sums it up pretty well
Apparently it's actually a 12 gauge under barrel shotgun. It would be cool if it was actually functional though.
It actually a flashlight the gun is from killzone 2 where its just a grip . In killsone 1 it is a shotgun
@@ceddysaid3432 bro it has a barrel use your eyes
@jamesmee5212 Mental child, I have played Killzone 2, which is the version used for this collab. In Killzone 2, it is just a grip. It had no function other than being where you place your off-hand. It was not a grenade launcher, the ISA AR had the grenade launcher.
@jamesmee5212 that's the flash light bro your going feel dumb when you realize you're wrong
2000 super credits for a garbage ass assault rifle, armor, helmet, cape, title. That’s the price of TWO full Warbonds… coming off the tail of a Warbond, superstore reset (hi baton), then a crossover… I can smell the greed through the screen
I really wish they upped the fire resistant armor to 80% like the gas.... Do 80% / 95 % Resistance across the board. You burn up so quickly.
Nah that would remove a main reason to buy freedoms flame war bond
@@mechamenace-le9qi he's talking about the armor from freedoms flame
@@mechamenace-le9qi i think he means for the freedoms flame armor specifically
@@Grassouillelafripouilleoof my bad yea isn’t it like 75%? It should be upped idk why they have the resistances different across the board but it may be because of planets like hellmire where they still wanted it to be a threat and not completely negated
Or better yet. Give self damage immunity
at this point i spend more time farming creds on diff 1 than playing the game
Literally everybody rn. And some people think this is fine, absolutely bonkers.
Almost like it’s a farming game? Strange. They should just make every piece 20 bucks like every single other game so y’all stop complaining
Yea that's horrible. Imo if a game turns into a job its time call it quits.
@@roguerex292 Bro you serious with that shit?
@@roguerex292What drugs are you on to say with confidence that Helldivers 2 is a "farming game"
This was originally planned to be a warbond but somewhere down the line at Sham's admission the team decided to just sell it to us at an absurd price. The prices are beyond egregious, 2k super credits for half of a warbond worth of content is disgusting.
The gun isn't worth $6. In that it's not good enough to warrant costing $6 and even if it was no singular weapon should ever cost that much in a game.
"You can farm super credits you know." It cost 650 Super Credits. That is over half the cost of a War Bond. If I'm taking the time to farm up and save 650 Super Credits then I'm just going to go ahead and get the last 350 for the next war bond.
Maybe I'm a hater. Killzone isn't a franchise I hold near and dear to my heart. The armor looks cool but it isn't cooler than what we already have and the passive screams "I expect to get hurt by either myself or my teammates." I hate the fact Player Cards are in the Super Store, because they're tied to capes. I don't hate capes being in the Super Store, but I'm never spending 75 credits for a Player Card. And I'm sure not spending 90 for one because it's from a collaboration.
The medium Helghast armor is genuinely one of my favorites in the game now. Looks so good and the passive is great
"muh sony" are you people brain dead? Its ARROWHEAD, I thought the glazers were dead and gone.
Um no, glazers have full control. Us rational gamers refuse to come back because of the toxic positivity of the glazers.
@@reaper_exd7498its so over bros
I want to support Arrow Head, I wanted this Killzone collab and even told them on Discord like last month and got a reply from one of the devs. But this is just dumb. It should've a warbond. And even as superstore, it is too damn expensive. Hard pass
We need weapon attachments and armor cusomization and we need em yesterday. I unlocked everything i wanted last summer, and i don't want to go back.
I mean, shredding hulks with HMG and getting run over by a car is fun and all but...I want to unlock cool stuff. Gimme cool stuff to unlock!
They need end game content and weapons customization. This 60 patch and the illuminate are just getting the game back to baseline. It's not progress to go back to zero from the negatives lol and the game is currently at 0.
I hate people saying "you can grind for it for free!" Like bro I'm not unemployed and live in my mom's basement like you, I don't have time like that. Thank you for calling out the bs, so many creators are shilling out for this crap for some reason.
Not to mention the most efficient methods get around 600 credits an hour very inconsistently.
Thats like working a job that MIGHT pay 6$ an hour
Complete waste of time, just spend your money and you'll have a better return on time investment
@@zemufinman1639 I wouldn't advice anyone dropping money on this dumb shit. It sends the wrong message to AH that this is ok. People paying money for this are basically killing the game. Next we'll start seeing strategems and more weapons in the store which at that point I'm instantly unintalling this shit and never touching it again.
@@nicolasacosta1673 Yeah once they start putting ACTUAL power behind super credits It's PCE for me, luckily the Warbond stratgems aren't amazing, but it's a slippery slope
I always knew this game was basically a glorified Free to Play game and that they just charged almost full price for it, the model is completely there for everyone to see.
yea, the people who think 40 hours of grinding is a steal are insane. I've played aggressively p2w pvp games that are more generous than this game.
and unironically you still can't even grind for it cause it's a fomo on rotation, yea maybe next month if it rotates in again and you save but don't miss out!😂
ya ive already uninstalled. they are just "testing the waters" my ass, this is gunna be the new norm. i refuse to continue when they say they wernt gunna sell power, but do it anyway. ya done fucked up AH and sony. too many games took this rout and now are just empty cash grabs.
Bye we dont need a hater like you
The rifle should have a grenade launcher function that you can toggle from the hold reload HUD. That would make it worth it in my eyes. But still wouldn’t buy it unless it was part of a warbond. That’s too much SC for one item.
Any weapons being added to the superstore on a random rotation is such a bad precedent for the game’s future. This gun might be painfully mediocre but what happens when they start adding really good weapons in this way? The pricing is egregious and locking any content that affects gameplay behind a paywall is just scummy beyond belief.
goofy "we are so over, it's so back" aahh game
still LOVE the game but damn, I don't want it to crash and burn and it keeps making me gasp with some of the decisions made
Destiny moment, they really going for the Destiny route
If they want money they should add armor color patterns for like ~250 SC. A requested nice-to-have feature from players, and something that I don't think people would complain about if monetized
They do this then the CEO of arrowhead comes out and says "I hear what you're saying, but the more of this we sell the more illuminate work you get for free" as if they didnt sell over 12 million copies of the game, and god knows how many extra people bought super credits on top of that. THAT is insane to me honestly, openly admitting to greed lmao
Even crazier to me that the devs are saying they were waiting for a fitting crossover and they choose a random game from 2009 that has nothing to do with even the vibes of helldivers. Like why not try to crossover with starship troopers, or hell even some how deep rock galactic would've made more sense if you put some dwarf weapons in the mix. Makes me afraid of other 'crossovers' they have in mind.
@@rustarus6117 Exactly mate, im 28 gamed all my life and actually played killzone im sure. Game wasnt great then and as you said has been dead for a decade. From what i hear it is HD vibes in some regard but AH are literally lying through their teeth.
@@rustarus6117Sony owns killzone. That's why they did it first. 0 paperwork or contracts with a 3rd party.
meanwhile it took them 6 months to add new content with diff10 which was barely any new pois and mostly just reskining enemies but bigger or random stuff glued on.
and now 10 months later for a faction and new biome, they don't do anything for the game beside poop out more warbonds while the game itself has been the same content wise for its life span. people come back for content not weapons.
@@petercottantail7850 Dont forget the 3 months of MO we wasted to get the DSS and you couldnt send it to any meaningful planet and is now offline for a couple weeks
Remember when games could just dish out free DLC size of the new game like Witcher 3 Blood and Wine?
So yeah, forget it. Devs made hundreds of millions and it wasn't enough, need to cover the Concord fumble.
Blood and wine wasn't free, but it was 15 pounds, and offered at least 30 hours of content that was extremely high value content too. In contrary AH release the first part of a 2 part selection of armour and guns that will probably total almost 4,000 super credits. If you were to buy all of that with money it would come to well over 30 pounds, which is more than double the price of the one of the best dlcs of all time for two armour sets and two guns. 😬
@@ungobungo7986akshually, it's 3 guns ☝️🤓
womp womp devs gotta cover their payroll, you got a bunch of free content with the latest warbond and the new illuminate but still a bunch of complaining.
@@Ricardo-hv8mo Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile...
@@Ricardo-hv8mo yeah, sure, sorry.
I must just pay my Concord tax or stop complaining
It's been so long since we've had something to unlock with samples and requisition. I wouldn't even care if super credits were interesting to farm, or if there was a better way to target them. As it stands its better to play on the lowest difficulty to farm super credits, which is honestly really boring.
If I remember well this gun used to have a underbarel shotgun. It's a miss.
That was the first 2 games, not sure about the others though. Would have been cool but not 615 cool.
@hawk9mm The weapon is based off of the killzone 2 variant
had a built in sight too
@@sgt.mohawk2499 Only the StA-52 in KZ3 had a built in Holo sight. The KZ2 rifle was just irons.
These collabs should've strictly been cosmetics... The gun is quite literally just a liberator anyway. The armor passive should be introduced to the game and they should 100% allow us to pick and choose what armor passives to use.
Give me an Aliens collab and i will drop some money. Smart gun or pulse rifle...yes.
Not the glazer hat 😭🤣
The sights on that gun were 10x better on PS3 back in 2009
Killzone 3 is still a better game than HD2 to this day.
@@reaper_exd7498 lets relax now
Almost two times the price for not even a third of a warbond.
Crazy
Besides the price, besides the little power it has.. why he no one mention the gun doesn’t even have the shotgun under barrel that actually apart of the gun in kill zone 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Also they reduced the ammo count just for helldivers lmfao Glaze divers should be rebranded to Slop divers 😂🤣😂
They used the Killzone 2 version of the gun; it only had the underbarrel in KZ1
@@riskyflash6812 then why are they using the model from the first game where it’s clearly visible lol
@@Blahhhhhh156 They aren’t using the model from the first game; it’s the KZ2 one. The KZ2 one has the iron sights and the KZ1 version has a red dot sight.
My only fear is that all future content will be this price. Look at how greedy games like Overwatch , League of Legends , Dauntless can get. If you give them a pass now for this price don't be surprised when all future content will be even more expensive.
You all say its more expensive cause its a collaboration but did anyone from Arrowhead confirm that's the reason ? Stop making excuses for them.
Why no one is talking about it?
First warbonds we had 3-4 weapons (additional grenades as well)! Now we have shit weapons AND useless titles/colors instead.(Stratagems go there as well now)
Now these possible weapons ends up in SUPERSTORE.
Medium armor for newest warbond doesnt exists, skin colors for FUTURE vehicles we dont have access to... smells like bs
They promised not to have stratagems behind warbonds too….
They said they would never locked stratagems behind warbonds… it’s sad
I've been saying that for the past 5 months since we started seeing less content in the WB and more and more being put into the store, seemingly cut out of the warbond, no one seems to call them out on it, or the glazers are just too loud.
the 50 resists armour does not look as good as i thought 😂
It should be at 75% resistance for each to consider getting.
Should have been a warbond.
If this gun was the best AR in the game so far then people would massively complain. So, I, for one, am glad it is not worth the money.
Content creators i can give a pass on this (because HOW ELSE are you going to review it) but anyone that pays money for this garbage is a part of the problem. I have a job, i have money, but i REFUSE to vote "YES" with my dollar. I REFUSE to let them set this as the new precedent.
didnt the ceo of arrowhead go on the internet to make sure everyone knows it wasnt sony...
this isnt a sony thing, it an arrowhead thing, because arrowhead is awful.
he did, but presumably the video was made earlier
fomo store back at it again. is it just me or are these prices rising?
Prob cuz collab
Prices rising??? Try skyrocketing! 1975 total for the entire set. That's 2 warbonds for like ¼th the content! Damn the world's economy is going to hell with these inflation rates!
Rising and we get half of what we used to get just 5 months ago. That should tell you everything. We're nothing but pay-pigs to Arrowhead.
What fomo when the shop is constantly rotating with same stuff?
1000,1500,1975 yep definitely rising
Make booba armor, make 💰💰💰
20 bucks warbond would have been a way better option. Some people would have complain too but not that many and It would have been more fair.
doubt it. People would always be pissed.
are we being punished for liking this game and not concord and the like?
Yes.
Oh no poor little arrowhead getting pushed around by mean Sony. Our perfect little company could never be behind something like thi-.. Ah shit they are.
? Idk what Concord has to do with this lol, but I don't think so.
@@themajesticspider-man6116 We call it the accursed Concord Tax. In other words, Sony's pissy that Concord and Lego Horizon Zero Dawn failed, so they're taking it out on us to try and squeeze out some more money.
But from what Shams said himself, they themselves decided to do this. So... we've got our rightful punching bag. That idiot.
Feels like it.
I’d love a basic color pallet. Keep the textures of gear the same but let you dye it red or black or whatever.
The gun doesn't even come remotely close to being worth 300 super credits, much less over 600. The armor looks decent but the passive is deceptively useless since it's very rare to encounter all of the things it protects against and you're instead far better off using an armor that protects against specific things. The only thing I'd say worth getting is just the title and maybe the cape and that's about it.
Overall this is both massively overpriced _and_ extremely disappointing, a very very bad combination if Sony is looking to make money. Very hard pass
BOOM you answered your own question, no one is forcing you to buy it lmfao
@@Zebrastripegum-m2j Wow it's almost like another company got sued for this exact reason. Also it's content in a game where content isn't released often so of course he would want it. Don't be a glaze diver.
@@BearDude2311 Glazer diver?? What in the fuck are you talking about lmfao, I haven't made ANY purchase since this dropped, because again, I wasn't forced to buy it, dumb f*** 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BearDude2311 Glaze diver? What in the fuck are you talking about?? I haven't made ANY purchase ever since this dropped, because again, I wasn't forced to buy, dumb **** 🤣🤣
Could you not have a sick drifting montage in the background next time, it was hard to divert my attention from that and actually listen
The gun is HORRIBLE.. no sights, light penetration... this is the worst AR in the game BY FAR and they dare ask $6 for it..
It was supposed to be a warbond (righteous revenant) but they scrapped what they could from it, divided it into 2 pages in the superstore and want 2000SC from us just for the first page...
6$ for a liberator clone...
I do not want to hear anyone talking about “it’s not about how it performs, it’s about the meaning and lore behind it!!”
@mcdull68 anyone saying it is an idiot who consumes whatever companies throw at them.
@@mcdull68didn’t it have a shotgun under barrel in kill zone ??🤡🤡
at least make the damn AR medium pen! 615 is like a spit in my face to buy a different taste of liberator carbine
I fear this may be the harbinger of mtx enshittification.
Idk. Sony has been trying to kill newer better games that are not quite on the political side.
Warhammer sold out to Amazon, killing floor 3’s director was fired due to using social media comments regarding sane thoughts.
Helldivers 2 is next in the chopper. Sony has been at it for a while.
@@epgamer1145 This apparently isn't on Sony this time, I keep seeing comments about some dev or PR rep from AH stating that this was totally their decision, price and all.
@ right, like how they dropped this bundle without it being its own war bond despite having promotional material listing it as a war bond.
It’s Sony. It was rushed out and it’s what we lie to call the “concord tax”
@@hawk9mm Also what kind of PR doesn't mention this collab event earlier to let players know there's an event? Why released it all of a sudden? Am i gonna suddenly have 1k super credits in my pocket?
@@epgamer1145 Well, apparently the CEO, Shams, is placing the blame squarely on AH. Obviously we won't know how true it is, but given how the monetization went when he was in charge over at Paradox, it absolutely wouldn't surprise me.
I think the armor should of originally worked like you can pick what 2 armor passives you want whitch makes customization much better and allows for armor to be more of a cosmetic than something that you have to deal with if you want that specific passive
They should rebalance Armour by giving each piece one innate passive and allow us to swap out 1 or 2 extra 'Armour modules' on top of that, and while doing this take things like "faster reload speed" or "increased melee damage" off of existing sets and make those modules.
Dough think about it buying the all of the premium superstore (including the second wave) its basicly buying the game again
All Assault Rifles should have medium armor penetration.
you realize that if they did that diffrent types of guns would be out dated and the game would be less diverse
half the cost of a warbond for a gun that's on-par with the STARTER weapon and another half the cost of a warbond for an armour with 4 half-resists
Yeaaaaaah, No.
A shame as the last warbond had some really nice kit within and then AH screw up their goodwill once again on a bunch of excessively priced FOMO BS now clogging up the formerly 90% cosmetics store.
Not helped in that a single warbond costs 1/.4 the price of the game at launch so this "collab" of 2 "viable" items is charging 1/4 the cost of an ENTIRE GAME while also leaning into FOMO tactics instead of making it a simple buyer-aware warbond.
Killzone skins will forever be one of the dopest skins, I definitely had to get the set
:(
The ISA uniforms would have been cool but they tended not to have full face masks, at least 1 and 2.
🥾😛
@@hawk9mm true yes they look cool if they had the tactical helmet on for sure
@@KhoiGOthat said, not 2k SC worthy though.
The funny part is the first person recoil is an actual replica of Killzone 2s recoil for the weapon
I hope they just lower it down and refund the people who already bought it some of the super credits back.
Or get rid of the timer
Arrowhead and maybe perchance Sony, discovered that because of the illuminates release and the warbond we got this winter has some pretty neat stuff, they have regained a ton of goodwill from the community. After that, they thought that maybe they could take advantage of said goodwill and newly found loyalty to release an overpriced warbond thinking people wouldn't mind because of said goodwill. Too bad that gamble didnt work so now they released the second set for free as damage control to regain all that lost goodwill back again. People are now even buying the 1st armor set with actual money because of them making the 2nd set free. Wouldn't suprise me if this whale pod of a fanbase gets easily manipulated in the future because of their blind loyalty to the devs.
Truly an Escalation of Greed
Ngl bruh the Helghast armor could look better.
Not knowing any gun in Kill Zone, i really thought that the thicc flash light at the bottom front of the gun is a grenade launcher. Now that i used it, super underwhelming for that price. Atleast give me med armor pen cuz rn it feel like using a normal liberator with some extra ammo, recoil and no scope attached
They should allow all of the superstore cosmetics to be bought at anytime, Make the new gun medium armor penetration, lower the damage and make it cheaper. The only reason i bought the gun is because of all the good memories of Killzone. Its honestly crazy to me there adding weapons now to the superstore.
6 dollars for a weapon… those sound like valorant numbers.
"I wont buy the baton because it will set a bad prescedence" -ohdough
Called it two days prior damn. Ohdoughs always up
Live service honeymoon is going to end eventually
What’s maddening is it was originally suppose to be a warbond called Righteous Revenants, and i bet damn Sony changed that, perchance to pay the concord tax. We’ll be getting a beefier knight and a plasma pulse rifle next Monday with the second batch
i really like how to "showcase" the new weapon he goes on a bot mission where bringing light pen weapons is pretty much trolling unless you're pairing smgs with the shield (and then he starts complaining about the gun having iron sights lol).
IF you where to ask me about the crossover items, yes the first batch was kinda wack although i enjoy the new primary it is basically a liberator but with iron sights (pretty epic), the second batch is waay better tho and even the new passive has very nice uses (lets you survive a shot from arc weaponry). Overall pretty good, and i farmed for the whole thing in a single day
Without deep diving into why what you said is extremely flawed, the gun is terrible regardless of what you use it against. Its a primary weapon that you dont want to primarily use because it can barely deal with the primary enemies you face. Light pen has no business being on primary weapons anymore. It just makes guns less useful in gameplay.
@fire_drake12.arc.24 For one, yes, light pen is cringe, but if the new primary is anything like a liberator then it's ATLEAST decent for clearing chaff and low tier bugs which already makes it capable of fitting in a variety of builds.
Rather than being a "this gun is bad" i think it's more of a "light pen is bad" problem (tho i don't have a big issue with it tbh)
Crazy to showcase weapons on one of three of the factions we fight. If it can't bot, I don't want it
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 Exaggerating much? If the new weapon is anything like the Liberator then it's atleast decent at clearing chaff and low tier enemies (mostly on the bug front) and thats enough to fit it in many builds. Don't get me wrong light pen is cringe but this is nowhere what i would call a terrible weapon
@@lukemehalick370 Some weapons are better in different factions dog, you can't disregard something just because it doesn't perform well against your favorite faction
This is just the first wave as well the other skin is the sniper enemy from kill zone so the leaked sniper is probably going to be in the shop with it
Oh man i felt so at home when you were gaslighting me about the red dot. "You dont see it?"
No i dont see it lol
i wish this had the underbarrel shotgun thing
when the video started to stutter I thought my computer was having issues lol
You're one of the few youtubers who are actually critical towards this game.
I especially like how you talk like an actual human and not an in universe propaganda announcer. It gets hard to tell what is even going on when you have to translate between layers of marketing and corpo speak.
Throw hate at me, don't care, this game went pre 60 day update kind of garbage right now. Weapons garbage and game crashing almost every mission. Its like they don't bother testing anything. Just throw it out there and watch the heads bob up and down.
The game is good now not garbage
The Finals has better monetization than basically every single game I've played. Wish more games were like that. Instead of the fomo stuff, its just cosmetics that were recently added to the game and whatever isn't in the list you can buy whenever you want. And if you buy a bundle its always on a discount. Some thing cost actual money but those bundles that require real dollars will always come with in game store credits according to the respective price.
I hate all the fomo stuff that are in video games, you'd probably make more money the way The Finals is doing it and keep your community happy.
If the monetization was this way in helldivers I'd give this game a 9/10 instead of a 7/10. They still need to add more stuff.
(and also the gameplay is just super awesome + the trailers).
Agreed, the gun skins are pure art
Y’all only feel this way because this need to have everything even if they told y’all it’s not that god
@@roguerex292not the sharpest tool in the shed are you
@@petercottantail7850 typically to u to result to insults when u can’t muster up a 5th grade level response
Doesn't the AR have a shotgun on the bottom in KZ? Should've gave it a alt-fire mode to switch to and have medium pen on it.
It’s showing it at the bottom
@@epgamer1145that’s the flashlight
That would definitely would be cool but that gun never had that
@@shotgun_daddy-1089 Then you never played 1 or 2, it did, it was it's major point, the ISA's AR had the GL, the Hellgast had the masterkey shotgun underbarrel.
@@hawk9mm it only had the grenade launcher in the first game bro
Every single part of this is over-priced and should have been a part of a warbond.
Not overpriced
I'm a huge Killzone fan, and the Helghast rifle is imo one of the coolest AR's in gaming. It was the first AR I ever saw in a game that had an underbarrel shotgun, and it had a huge mag size in relation to its TTK in Killzone 1. It just being a liberator with slightly higher mag size and better ROF is such a complete slap in the face of the sta-52, *AND* it's $6 worth of super credits. I know they probably aren't ever going to have underbarrel attachments. But they could have at least balanced the gun around being a high capacity tenderizer, since the gun had a high DPS in Killzone, and it's expensive af. I was excited when I saw the leaks because I love Killzone. But at this point, I'll probably just get the SMG coming in later, because we have so few of those right now. And I'll get the armors for the drip. But I'm massively disappointed in this collab.
they need to rework the armor penetration system, like light pen is 50% damage on medium armor and 25% damage on heavy armor instead of 0 damage for example
Honest to god would be far better.
That and the durable damage system, we have like 3 different potential damage modifiers in the game, base damage, penetration ratings and durable damage and or maybe include some weak point damage. They need to streamline it to just 1 or 2 and stop hiding what stats to show the player, this whole "we don't want the game to be a numbers game" is a bs excuse to not give the paying customer and player as much information as you can provide.
"When you make things that look nice, who cares if they work well?" This is true. This should be where the money is.
But also, if that AR had an alt-fire where the bottom part was a grenade launcher, I would take it even for this price as I am a sucker for Underbarrel Grenade Launchers.
But that is just me. Having the set in a more expensive warbond would have been the better option in my opinion.
Or hear me out, things that look nice AND work well.
hear me out Concord crossover but its free because no one will buy it lmao
That wouldn’t fit with the vibe of the game tbh
Imagine having a disabled blue hair lesbian armor in a role play in a herd shooter game
@MyNamesMegatron oh god 🤣 that's literal the hell on helldivers 2.
@@divinedragonkirr LMAO AH JUST GAVE OUT THE COLLAB SKINS FOR FREE INCLUDING THE ONES NEXT WEEK
AH is the best
Not just the frames but I've been having frequent connection errors vs Illuminate. I think they're after my router. Cook calamari, Helldivers.
They should make the rifle med pen
eh, illuminates provided light pen a use, but I use tenderizer more bcs its variable fire rate
If they would have released the warbond and price it at 20-25$ most people woul have bought it and they have a reaspn to grind the game if they are maxed out on everything. Right now, this sucks. I only bought the helmet and cape with credits I grinded.
man i watch you since helldiver2 release for your honest opinion, keep it up!