Hey the Templin Institute How about you guys do one on the G-Force from the Godzilla movies? (Well actually the Heisei Trilogy of the Godzilla movies.) Just making a suggestion, you don't have to do it, if you don't want to. Here's one you might like, what about the Martians from The War Of The World's?
Helghast: You gotta pay a toll to be on our shipyards. Earth: Fuck that. I am not paying for that. Helghast: Then you are not gonna using our shipyards Earth: Well shit then looks like we are gonna go to war boys. Helghast: Wait. what? Basically how the war started.
UCN is basically like UN. Just more greedier since UN was formed from USA. And even they were responsible for not making a proper government for Helghan.
@AmeriFolksFellow V-M. Rhaefnhyrst It doesn't have to be. Sidenote: Woodrow Wilson was unequivocally the worst U.S. president in world history when the long-term effects of his administration are put in perspective, the guy was practically Canadian.
@@scottwhitley3392 No, rather like military forces of British colonies. In NATO every nation is a willing participant, they can leave at at time, but ISA is under direct command of UCN
When you're home is taken by force, people slaughtered and you're only chance for freedom is self imposed exile to a harsh, almost unbearable environment... You're the villains for wishing to take back the land you once called home.
I know this has probably come up multiple times, but Helghan would have been a model member world of Warhammer 40,000's Imperium of Man. Endless mineral resources, a diehard-fanatical population of tough and brutal warriors, endless drive for vengeance on their enemies and glory for their state. Oh how perspective changes things...
MrMortull Your damn right, all that’s needs to be done is to instill xenophobia, imperial humanity f-k yeah propaganda, the imperial creed and faith and ta da! we have a loyal badass imperial world with a badass genetically pure human population with some badass imperial guard regiments
MrMortull When they moved to that planet as the generations passed, they gradually ceased to be human, which made them pale bald and with weak lungs but also stronger and more resistant by the skin, that and if you add that they hate humans and are based in an ideology that they are superior and better than the rest they would see him as rebels, heretics and a planet fallen into chaos.
If they were part of the Imperium it wouldn't have gotten that far, they'd still be considered Human or at the absolute worst as emerging Abhumans. As for the heresy well... that's what Compliance Crusades are for! Enjoy your Black Templars and millennia-long penitence service in the IG, Helghast. XD
Killzone really feels like it suits the W40K spirit in a ton of ways. On the surface, it's cheesy as hell. Just look at the helghasts, they're black wearing villains with orangy red glowing eyes! They shoot giant lightning guns at space ships, crazy green science-weapon gunk (and later blue zero G energy, 'cuz... why not), everyone on the Helghan planet speak this gruff British accent and radically defend an industrial world that seems to be stuck on a color pallet of stone, dirt, and smog, with even the sandy beaches having this odd grayish blue hue to them. It's just kind of absurdly dark industrial war porn on the surface. But beyond that layer, there's a ton of detail, and so much work put behind emphasizing the war machine of the two factions. So much well written propaganda, lots of talk about order and discipline, shades of gray behind the politics of the war, interesting betrayals and moments of crazy twists, and then of course the more obvious details that take inspiration from very real war events and history. W40K does a ton of that as well, under a similar cheesy industrial smog riddled universe where it's somehow logical to charge in with chainsaw swords despite the fact everyone carries a gun with mini-rocket bullets. There's a ton of really involved and in-depth war politics in both universes, and they both just constantly bathe in that atmosphere to an incredible point. The only thing Killzone is really missing in tone, are aliens, and the literal and metaphorical religious stuff that makes W40K a sci-fi crusade. Killzone instead doubles down on historical parallels.
Judging by how against the war the Helghast civilians are in Shadowfall i'd say their spirit is effectively broken. Just gotta deal with those genocidal power hungry psychos in the Helghast military and government and hopefully The Helghast and Vektans can finally have peace. Can't wait for Killzone 5: Are We Fucking Done Yet?!?!
@@JohnCena-ew1mf Problems is that they were always against. Even in the Killzone 2 you can hear soldiers saying their are the scum. They are the lower caste. And if you knew anything about the lore you would know that the power hungry was ISA and that Helghasts were forced to leave Vecta which they colonized. And at the end of Killzone 4 you can see that ISA leaders are basically the same.
Sending a group of people to a planet that kills a large number of the population (sending them to die there) is a crime, the helghast just want to take back what is rightefully theirs.
Helghan Administration: Legally Purchases the Alpha-Centuri System UCN: Nope, never happened Helghan Administration: Wait wha- UCN: Hey did you hear about the new taxes we're putting on you guys Helghan Administration:.....
Sounds a lot like how American colonialist police started out before the American revolution. The UCN couldn’t bear the fact that a planet wanted to not only win independence, but also financially.
Helgast: ✓Epic speeches as intro cinematics in all main Killzones (1,2,3) ✓Awesome uniform and solider design ✓Charismatic leader ✓Logical motivations for war ✓Nice guns and spaceships ×not executing PoW s immidieatly ISA: ×boring dialog cutsenes ×uninteresting by the numbers solider design ×reskinned real world weapons or very simmilar variants ×no charismatic leader, just reffered as "your leaders" ×taking over and banishing the inhabitants of a planet they bought and colonised onto a poison planet ×no speetches ×characters you want to see die (shoutout to Col. Radec for finishing Templar!) ×destroy and masacare an entire planet and the people responsible are not punished It's like the writers want you to hate the ISA.
Though the Helghast turned very immoral in the end. I would say it looks like they were forced into it. Basically exiled to die on a hellhole were only the strongest would survive (the UCN probably just figured they'd all died horribly), hard decisions had to be made. Some people would have to die for the whole to survive. When these ruined peoples finally came together, pride and the will to reclaim their homeland was all they had. They finally, after many years moved to retake their capital lost long ago. When their liberation failed, they were treated worse than animals (this they expected, why would an enemy that would leave them to die in hell do anything else). With their hopes smashed, their future even more bleak than it was before. Finally if that wasn't enough their leader, their last symbol of hope was assassinated. They as a society had nothing left, the country proceeded tear itself apart. The Helghast in this scenario are people who built up 2 worlds from nothing to have them either taken or destroyed by a jealous parent. An industrious people punished for their ability and ambition. Their story is a sad one, even if the UCN would spin it as a victory.
Yes - exactly this. The Helghan, essentially, wanted a place where they could go and run the Corporate Statist community of their dreams. As proof that they were not essentially evil at the beginning, they were shocked and dismayed when their 'Thanatos Gambit' of making enough money to outright buy the Alpha Centauri system and then skim a toll off the top of vital resource shipping was met with armed force - it was simply an outcome they hadn't considered, in light of the damage caused by the Resource Wars in Earth's history. The UCN was more than willing to brand a separatist colony as being responsible for all of Earth's woes, however, and whipped the population of Earth up in order to get a mandate for military interaction. Cue Earth's under-estimation of the Helghan, though. They have consistently thought that the Helghan would 'knuckle under' if punished hard enough, and consistently it has forced the Helghan to radicalise - from Vektans into Helghans, from Helghans into Helghast. The UCN has doubled down each time that the Helghast put them in the position of abandoning their moral principles in order to solve the situation quickly and 'cheaply' through force. I would have preferred to have seen an examination of the effects of that degeneration in the final episode but, ah well...
+Iain Howe That's one of the main reasons why I love the Helghast faction. Even in their worst situations they're able to overcome anything that is thrown at them.
I mean in modern day there are really no equivalents even close to the ISA. Their treatment of the Helghast is more comparable to the 1910-1960s era USSR or early People's Republic of China when they massacred or harshly repressed their own people as retaliation for any resistance [i.e. the Red Terrors & Ukrainian Holodomor].
I think that the Templin Institute has a physical headquarters located in a pocket dimension outside normal space and time. This allows their analysts to pick up several organizations from differente worlds and eras, and analyze them based on local historical evidence. The organizations they show are also real, since the Institute has access to multiple dimensions, including ones where those organizations actually exist.
We vehemently deny that the Templin Institute has ever been involved in any kind of trans-dimensional travel. Please remain where you are so our agents can question you on just where exactly you've been getting this information.
They reside in a "prime" reality. A nexus so to speak where other realities spawn from. From what I can see they practice a policy of non-interference. Simply watching,studying, and chronicling. At least...that's the official line
There's not really a right side in it at all: the ISA started out as bad guys, and the Helghast became bad guys. It's one of the better aspects of the world it's set in, I think.
the player was never on the wrong side... they forgot to mention the gate tax Helgan started leveling against earth ships coming from other systems going to old terra.
The games did a really bad job explaining why anyone should root for the ISA. I started playing the series with the second game, and it was not clear to me for a long time why I as player character was invading Helghan, which belongs to the Helghast.
In the end, the Helghast were entirely justified in their actions because the ISA ended up "accidentally" committing mass genocide on the Helghan people.
Yeah let's just ignore the whole fascist dictatorship, warmongering, suppression of any kind of rights, and planning to use the weapons on that ship to obliterate a planet. All the ISA did was defend themselves and others from the hellish weapon the helghast were going to use.
Gav Campbell >Implying a successful liberal democracy that guarantees rights can exist in a poor hellhole with tons of sanctions placed on it >implying that the ISA had no intention of genociding the Helghas when they forced them on to an inhospitable planet.
Gav Campbell those things wouldn't have happened if the Helghans were left alone. They paid for their homeland in the most literal sense of the word, they had every right to seek independence. This story should be a lesson against everything you've listed, the ISA practically cultivated the violent extremism that took over and did everything they could to ensure no peace could exist without genocide on the Helghan population.
Jixijenga An now they need to wipe out the Helghast as they'll stop at nothing to do the same to the UCN and possibly humanity as a whole. What they should have done after KZ3 was either finish them all off or force them to disarm their entire military before allowing them to settle on Vekta. An don't give me any of that "it was their planet first" bullshit either.
I am still waiting for a Killzone where you play as a Helghast. The war between the factions is full of shades of grey so it would be nice to see how people feel on the other side of that conflict. Especially that they are back to Vekta now.
I agree. In many respects, I felt earth was actually the aggressor / bad guy in the series. The Helghast weren't exactly angels, but in war, who is? They were defending their own home...I can't blame them.
This is what makes me fear for the future of mankind. This is all fictional but still people support insurgents that are aggainst proper humanity and our planet. Earth is mother everything else is expendable, no crime no matter how henious is unjustified when it comes to the interests of Mankind and mother Earth.
People like you are worrying as well because you are basically blind and you won't distinguish what's right and wrong. You also said that anything goes no matter how heinous it is, those heinous crimes are usually used as a recruiting tool for your enemy so good job for basically creating new recruits for them not to mention that you encourage your enemies to be just as if not even more heinous. I also have a couple of random comparisons to real life that I would like to make: 1- People who followed their leadership blindly gave us the nazis and we all know how great those people were. 2- About the heinous crimes, look at how extremists use the collateral damage of civilians as a marketing tools to attract the hopeless and the angry people. 3- You fight for the interests of your faction, some of our modern wars destabilized entire regions till our current day just for the interests of a few politicians. Time has showed us that the interests of politicians aren't always in the interest of the people. ( I won't mention any examples because I don't want to open a debate about which wars are correct and which aren't, each one of us got their own opinions on the subject.) 4- Violence only generates more violence, the allies could have basically raped and murdered every german and japanese person they saw after their victory but they didn't, they ended the war and stopped the blood shed because that's the humane choice. Last, let me explain my point of view, the Helghast are an entire race that occupied a full planet. They were led astray by their blind faith in their corrupt leaders that saw them as tools and means to increase their power and authority. They were dumped on a toxic planet and had to basically evolve to survive their. Their children were fed propaganda that's supported by their harsh realities since their birth. The only way for them to strive was by working hard and that actually paid off, exactly like what Visari said. Their own leader nuked their city. A mad scientist from their own ranks destroyed their entire planet, you see where I am getting at? The situation with those people is a bit of a cluster fuck, it's too complex to simply throw an entire race with every single life in it down the drain. That's why I said it would be interesting to see how those people survive from day to day, what kind of political propaganda are they fed, what keeps those people living on that toxic wasteland and what power made them thrive in it? Those are interesting questions for me that I hope I will get an answer to in upcoming Killzone games.
You are overthinking life. All is simple. Humanity's interests> everyone else. This is why i love warhammer 40k there are no good or bad boys there just grey areas like in real life, because every side has their own truth.
No I am not really, under thinking is just as dangerous as over thinking. I am not saying that one should stand and consider all these variables if a war happened, you gotta look out for your own, but you gotta open up and start considering other solutions to your problem eventually. I got into Warhammer 40k because of the grey areas and it opened up my eyes to the fact that things aren't always the way they look, there are layers beneath everything that can change the way you perceive things, just loved that aspect about 40k. Too bad it's spehss mahrins and friends now, I feel like gw chose the champs of 40k already. At least we got Age of Sigmar.
When I was younger I bought the game thinking I was going to be playing Helghast. I don't remember any other game in my childhood disappointing me as much as Killzone.
Well, We can't say they did *Nothing* wrong. I mean, They clearly couldn't prevent the power struggle from happening after Visari died, which caused the civil war that destroyed most of their planet. And in the context of the game, I can technically say the ISA didn't start *that specific war*. What really kicked everything off though was the UCN invading an independent Star System after the Helghan Corporation had paid for it.
The ISA are the real bad guys. The Helghast had their planet, their economies, culture and richness were stolen from them by the ISA. Good video Templin, I made something similar last year about this.
Modern issue: Racism. Solution: Full body suit. Modern issue: Shootings. Solution: Body armor. Modern issue: Virus. Solution: Face mask. Can we all get issued Helghast uniforms? ;p
I never realized how killzone reflected so much realism of what happened in europe in the 20 century making sure it wasn't just bad guys are bad for no reason
Hope a new chapter of killzone will soon came out..this is such an interesting game series! Anyway..nice description: the person who speaked has a beautiful voice too
That's what I'm saying! Cowardly UCN and ISA not liking a nation who takes pride in themselves as a people, and wanting to be the best they can be. Really fucking activates my almonds
@@dantewilliams2757I don't believe the Helghast are the good guys, but are you referring to the very inaccurate UA-cam short Templin released two years ago?
Just found the channel, LOVE the concept and subscribed. This particular piece was a better intro to the Killzone universe than the first few HOURS of any of the main trilogy of the actual GAMES. Well done.
Dudes...that sounds mor elike that the Helghast did nothing wrong....In my eyes they simply seemed to defend themselves from invaders. That said we basicly play the bad guys every time
Are you serious...? they spent a good part of the video going over how corrupt their leadership was and the lengths they were willing to go to launch a war despite the huge potential loss of life to their population. No side here is innocent, at all. I think that was always the point.
Drader THE PROPHET OF AIDEN And shoot anyone an everyone that doesn't comply with their ideology and plan to re-engineer a virus meant for them to kill off all the Vektans instead of doing the sensible thing and just destroying it. Am I seriously the only one that realizes there are no good guys in Killzone?
I think a prequel game, novel, or graphic novel set during and after the First Extrasolar War would be awesome, showing the transformation of Helghan from a private enterprise and corporation to a fully-fledged nation state.
I mean…. Civilians are the victims on both sides. Neither government is commendable or worth respecting. A bunch of assholes in space fucking you over isn’t a great reason for becoming a bunch of giant space assholes. Given the time tables of the Helghast attack, they have become more adapted to their current planet…. it’s been so long that they are literally a new subspecies of Human. Discovering a cool new element and instead of cool shit you make a WMD. They literally could have colonized other planets…ideological vengeance won them nothing but getting destroyed by their own WMD that they planned to use on civilians. Everyone is the fucking worst. One Evil does not justify another.
I want to see an RTS game in the Killzone universe. The ISA campaign would be following the events of the trilogy, while the Helghast campaign could be the successful conquest of Vekta and defense against the UCN counterattack and have its climax with a strike at Earth itself.
@@altechelghanforever9906 Templar was part of the war criminals that wanted Visari dead, i doubt he would have stop rico for "killing him in the confusion of the battle" I can respect him as a warrior, but that's it. He is a good soldier in the wrong side.
Earth: well we have take a planet and destroyed the other, we have now a entire war fleet with vengeful gas lovers with weapons that we have no idea how they work, anyone have any idea how we deal with it? Vekta: Find a new planet for then and let then live in peace? Earth:Good idea, let's give then half of Vekta. Vekta: WAIT WHAT?! Earth: well that planet was their's after all. Vekta: But they will want to get the rest of the planet, you cannot do that!! Earth: Already done, they are already incoming. Vekta: WHAT?! ARE YOU MAD WE NEED TO EVACUATE THE POPULATION OR THEIR WRATH WILL FALL UPON US!! Earth: Not my problem, be more efficient i don't want to save your ass again. *end transmission* Vekta:we are fucked. Helghast: yeah you are. Vekta: HOW THE F- *shoot sound* Helghast: home sweet home.
This is exactly why I fucking love Killzone and the Helghan Empire because they are not your typical 'alien spieces that just wants to take over everything' but are like how they are for a good reason, even though they are not humans of course, well kind of.
The professional report in this brief video of the story of the (Killing Zone) game series encouraged me to subscribe to this UA-cam channel, which I liked, especially the first part of it, and I hope that you will make a video explaining the story of the game (Fear) in its three parts, and thank you for your efforts
Pre-Killzone 1, showing the true toll of their exile and unstable political climate. There had to be a civil war and seeing the rise of Visari and the crimes of the ISA would be amazing.
The Templin Institute your channel explores all the background minutia in everything sci-fi and I love you for that! And so amazing well put together. My inner nerd/dog feels like its getting a leg twitching belly scratch every time I watch one of your vids...best way I can think to describe it...
A bit late, but I believe Helghast were the best enemy. They became the image on every poster, disk case, and advertisement of the killzone series. If they had not been the enemy, you would have been fighting dumb looking Vektans instead of constantly seeing the awesome Helghast.
That assault on Radek's palace and ensuing boss battle with Radek himself is by far the best, hardest, and easily 'nope' on the replay moment I have had.
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you are the best .. you dont know how long i was looking for a video about Helghan's as i always say , not all enemies you see in games or movies are all evil by nature just pushed to that place and doing anything to survive or taking revenge
I'd wager it's the same reason why they didn't die from radiation poisoning from the red dust attack in KZ2; They stocked up on enough radiation pills to survive the aftermath of a nuclear attack, so I'm guessing they had the resources (unlike the Helghast due to UCN sanctions imposed for decades) to provide treatment for the effects of Helgan's atmosphere. Either that, or they didn't stay on the planet for long enough to suffer from such effects in full.
Or its just out of the ass, because they want to make the Helgast scary by wearing masks, but not the ISA. Pure propaganda irl. They neither had the modern treatment to stop a toxic athmosphere, nor they stayed on the planet for a short time.
@@dimitaru.8408 Late reply but.. Yeah that's probably why, I like the ISA...but their designs in K2 could've been better. They could've designed some pretty cool and "functional" gear for the ISA's invasion forces, like make their oxygen masks (if they had any) and breathing masks look less..."ghoulish" compared to the helghast and more "sophisticated". (if that makes sense) Like show that they spared no expense in equipping the soldiers with the latest in extreme climate survival gear. (minus some minor economic, government and corporate cutbacks..) My point is they could've made ISA gear look more streamlined, less obvious tubes and all that, atleast I think it would've awsome!
@@dimitaru.8408 Yeah that could've worked, although I wouldn't have wanted them spend all that effort making those faces only to 'hide' them. It would make sense for the ISA characters to take off their survival gear and breathing masks in places that were sealed from the harsh outside and with plenty of 'clean' oxygen, like the insides of the ISA'S cruisers, some vehicles or planetside structures with serious air filtration systems. That way we could take in those distinct face models while it making sense in context! Sadly I don't think will ever see a continuation *or even a solid 'reboot'* of this series...
Brilliant video, thanks for the history lesson. I have always wondered how the Helgast got to where they were at the start of the games, now I know 🖒 p.s as a suggestion I would like to see a video about the Cardassian union from deep space nine if possible?
I truly love these videos, please could you do a video on the Forerunner Ecumene and a little on the Ancient Human Empire from Halo, or a video on the Peacekeeper from Farscape?
Primarch Roboute Guilliman no competition Guilliman but you and the other primarchs allowed terra to burn and cause the death Sanguinius and the God Emperor himself!
Seeing this and the breakdown of how an interstellar megacorp turns itself into a nation state, I'd love to see you guys break down the Mutant Chronicles setting for analysis.
I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT if you guys did a video on the Principality of Zeon and/or the Earth Federation of Mobile Suit Gundam and the spanning history of the Universal Century. Besides that, awesome video! Helghast seem like they got the butt end of Killzone, really.
basically a story of people robbed of what was theirs and subjugated until the very last second. They may have been autoritharian but the true opressors werent them.
Excelletnt video! It's nice to see any kind of revival of a long-forgotten franchise like Killzone! Could you maybe do a follow-up video on the ISA or UCN?
I can picture a killzone game that has an intro cinamatic of about 5 minutes of both sides propangada and some backstory then sets up the most recent political tension and from there lets you pick a side and influence the war, your sides role and policies from frontline actions and ulitmatly how history remembers the conflict and those incolved. It could be a nuanced way to tell a war story and flesh out both sides even have some seperated colonies like mentioned in 3
nothing really excuses the actions of the helghast, but id make the argument that none of this would have occurred had the UCN not grown paranoid over the helghast growing nor the declaration of war, the helghast didn't start this, it surely does put their actions in perspective. we can spend ages talking about how wrong it was for the helghast to start a war and what not, or condemn the UCN for the shit they did. but ultimately we have to ask ourselves how do we end this without getting innocents involved simply because they are descendants of the shits who had condemned the helghast to a living nightmare. the helghast are a people betrayed simply because of the UCN's fear. war is unfavorable, but i'd be lying if i said I wouldn't struggle choosing who to side with if i ever was faced with the decision of joining one of the two factions. situation really is tricky xD
Just found this channel and really loving it so far. Hope you do more flag/emblem comparisons at some point cause I thought that was really interesting. Maybe a faction you could examine would be the LMB (Last Man Battalion) from The Division? Otherwise, I'll watch your content anyway! Thanks! :)
Defenders of the Helghast Dream, NOW IS OUR TIME!
Aldmeri dominion plz :-)
Hey the Templin Institute
How about you guys do one on the G-Force from the Godzilla movies? (Well actually the Heisei Trilogy of the Godzilla movies.)
Just making a suggestion, you don't have to do it, if you don't want to.
Here's one you might like, what about the Martians from The War Of The World's?
How about forerunner and the Covenant from HALO.
The Templin Institute You have the loveliest voice, I'd let you read me a bed time story. ^~^
Our enemies at home have been reeducated. We have given them new insights into our cause.
Helghast: You gotta pay a toll to be on our shipyards.
Earth: Fuck that. I am not paying for that.
Helghast: Then you are not gonna using our shipyards
Earth: Well shit then looks like we are gonna go to war boys.
Helghast: Wait. what?
Basically how the war started.
UCN is basically like UN. Just more greedier since UN was formed from USA.
And even they were responsible for not making a proper government for Helghan.
Don’t forget that the UCN allowed them to set up taxes and what not. Only when they got greedy and paranoid did they throw a fit and decide to invade.
@@FurroTheWolf The UN was not formed from the U.S. it just rents a place in New York.
@AmeriFolksFellow V-M. Rhaefnhyrst It doesn't have to be. Sidenote: Woodrow Wilson was unequivocally the worst U.S. president in world history when the long-term effects of his administration are put in perspective, the guy was practically Canadian.
Helghan belongs to the Helghast!
The ISA created their enemy.
Rev BladeZ so the UCN is like NATO?
@@scottwhitley3392
No, rather like military forces of British colonies.
In NATO every nation is a willing participant, they can leave at at time, but ISA is under direct command of UCN
@@HonestHappyHater ISA is more like the systems Self-Defense Forces under the direct supervision of UCN
Because the isa is the true enemy
Kinda like the CIA created the Taliban...
When you're home is taken by force, people slaughtered and you're only chance for freedom is self imposed exile to a harsh, almost unbearable environment... You're the villains for wishing to take back the land you once called home.
@@wiseguy01 lol, no
@@wiseguy01 colonialism brought prosperity to otherwise worthless land (look at australia)
@@wiseguy01 The noble savage myth is a position uneducated people have, aka you
wιѕegυy nice
wιѕegυy shouldn’t have lost the war lmao
I know this has probably come up multiple times, but Helghan would have been a model member world of Warhammer 40,000's Imperium of Man. Endless mineral resources, a diehard-fanatical population of tough and brutal warriors, endless drive for vengeance on their enemies and glory for their state.
Oh how perspective changes things...
MrMortull Your damn right, all that’s needs to be done is to instill xenophobia, imperial humanity f-k yeah propaganda, the imperial creed and faith and ta da! we have a loyal badass imperial world with a badass genetically pure human population with some badass imperial guard regiments
MrMortull When they moved to that planet as the generations passed, they gradually ceased to be human, which made them pale bald and with weak lungs but also stronger and more resistant by the skin, that and if you add that they hate humans and are based in an ideology that they are superior and better than the rest they would see him as rebels, heretics and a planet fallen into chaos.
If they were part of the Imperium it wouldn't have gotten that far, they'd still be considered Human or at the absolute worst as emerging Abhumans. As for the heresy well... that's what Compliance Crusades are for! Enjoy your Black Templars and millennia-long penitence service in the IG, Helghast. XD
More than likely. Though, the Death Korps of Krieg would be pretty pissed of someone else trying to steal their overall style nonetheless.
Killzone really feels like it suits the W40K spirit in a ton of ways. On the surface, it's cheesy as hell. Just look at the helghasts, they're black wearing villains with orangy red glowing eyes! They shoot giant lightning guns at space ships, crazy green science-weapon gunk (and later blue zero G energy, 'cuz... why not), everyone on the Helghan planet speak this gruff British accent and radically defend an industrial world that seems to be stuck on a color pallet of stone, dirt, and smog, with even the sandy beaches having this odd grayish blue hue to them. It's just kind of absurdly dark industrial war porn on the surface. But beyond that layer, there's a ton of detail, and so much work put behind emphasizing the war machine of the two factions. So much well written propaganda, lots of talk about order and discipline, shades of gray behind the politics of the war, interesting betrayals and moments of crazy twists, and then of course the more obvious details that take inspiration from very real war events and history. W40K does a ton of that as well, under a similar cheesy industrial smog riddled universe where it's somehow logical to charge in with chainsaw swords despite the fact everyone carries a gun with mini-rocket bullets. There's a ton of really involved and in-depth war politics in both universes, and they both just constantly bathe in that atmosphere to an incredible point. The only thing Killzone is really missing in tone, are aliens, and the literal and metaphorical religious stuff that makes W40K a sci-fi crusade. Killzone instead doubles down on historical parallels.
Actually, how about an expose on the Templin Institute itself? Who are its directors? What technology does its use to analyze other realities?
Derek Burge Vex Technology? Paracausality through the Veil? Connection to the Traveler? [Rhetorical]
Maybe they have extradimensional powers that allow them to observe similar to the Gman from Half-Life.
Nah fam... they are the debug stick from minecraft.
They are gods idk
Ftl experiment leading to extra dimensional probes to collect data
The enemy may shatter our bodies, but they cannot break our spirit ...
CharlesFBronson
I will shatter them with my male reproductive organ
+@@gabenewell3955 Fuck off bellend. Yours will never match Glorious Helghan speeches.
Judging by how against the war the Helghast civilians are in Shadowfall i'd say their spirit is effectively broken. Just gotta deal with those genocidal power hungry psychos in the Helghast military and government and hopefully The Helghast and Vektans can finally have peace. Can't wait for Killzone 5: Are We Fucking Done Yet?!?!
@@JohnCena-ew1mf Problems is that they were always against. Even in the Killzone 2 you can hear soldiers saying their are the scum. They are the lower caste. And if you knew anything about the lore you would know that the power hungry was ISA and that Helghasts were forced to leave Vecta which they colonized. And at the end of Killzone 4 you can see that ISA leaders are basically the same.
The ISA are to blame for their crimes against the Helghast
And now the ISA want to take Helghan from us?! The smiles on their faces while knives hidden behind their backs!
Sending a group of people to a planet that kills a large number of the population (sending them to die there) is a crime, the helghast just want to take back what is rightefully theirs.
@@thehigherman9918 on point.
ISA more Isreali Space Agency lol
Helghan Administration: Legally Purchases the Alpha-Centuri System
UCN: Nope, never happened
Helghan Administration: Wait wha-
UCN: Hey did you hear about the new taxes we're putting on you guys
Helghan Administration:.....
Sounds a lot like how American colonialist police started out before the American revolution. The UCN couldn’t bear the fact that a planet wanted to not only win independence, but also financially.
Helgast:
✓Epic speeches as intro cinematics in all main Killzones (1,2,3)
✓Awesome uniform and solider design
✓Charismatic leader
✓Logical motivations for war
✓Nice guns and spaceships
×not executing PoW s immidieatly
ISA:
×boring dialog cutsenes
×uninteresting by the numbers solider design
×reskinned real world weapons or very simmilar variants
×no charismatic leader, just reffered as "your leaders"
×taking over and banishing the inhabitants of a planet they bought and colonised onto a poison planet
×no speetches
×characters you want to see die (shoutout to Col. Radec for finishing Templar!)
×destroy and masacare an entire planet and the people responsible are not punished
It's like the writers want you to hate the ISA.
I loved the Helghast government in KZ3 it was neat to see its inner working.
I always play as the helghast in multiplayer
Chad Helghast vs virgin ISA
The ISA is for diversity hires.
Good thing I do.
Though the Helghast turned very immoral in the end. I would say it looks like they were forced into it. Basically exiled to die on a hellhole were only the strongest would survive (the UCN probably just figured they'd all died horribly), hard decisions had to be made. Some people would have to die for the whole to survive. When these ruined peoples finally came together, pride and the will to reclaim their homeland was all they had. They finally, after many years moved to retake their capital lost long ago. When their liberation failed, they were treated worse than animals (this they expected, why would an enemy that would leave them to die in hell do anything else). With their hopes smashed, their future even more bleak than it was before. Finally if that wasn't enough their leader, their last symbol of hope was assassinated. They as a society had nothing left, the country proceeded tear itself apart.
The Helghast in this scenario are people who built up 2 worlds from nothing to have them either taken or destroyed by a jealous parent. An industrious people punished for their ability and ambition. Their story is a sad one, even if the UCN would spin it as a victory.
Corrupted Archangel Hello
Yes - exactly this. The Helghan, essentially, wanted a place where they could go and run the Corporate Statist community of their dreams. As proof that they were not essentially evil at the beginning, they were shocked and dismayed when their 'Thanatos Gambit' of making enough money to outright buy the Alpha Centauri system and then skim a toll off the top of vital resource shipping was met with armed force - it was simply an outcome they hadn't considered, in light of the damage caused by the Resource Wars in Earth's history.
The UCN was more than willing to brand a separatist colony as being responsible for all of Earth's woes, however, and whipped the population of Earth up in order to get a mandate for military interaction. Cue Earth's under-estimation of the Helghan, though. They have consistently thought that the Helghan would 'knuckle under' if punished hard enough, and consistently it has forced the Helghan to radicalise - from Vektans into Helghans, from Helghans into Helghast.
The UCN has doubled down each time that the Helghast put them in the position of abandoning their moral principles in order to solve the situation quickly and 'cheaply' through force. I would have preferred to have seen an examination of the effects of that degeneration in the final episode but, ah well...
+Iain Howe That's one of the main reasons why I love the Helghast faction. Even in their worst situations they're able to overcome anything that is thrown at them.
I mean in modern day there are really no equivalents even close to the ISA. Their treatment of the Helghast is more comparable to the 1910-1960s era USSR or early People's Republic of China when they massacred or harshly repressed their own people as retaliation for any resistance [i.e. the Red Terrors & Ukrainian Holodomor].
+Corrupted Archangel Heck, even Nazi Germany would find the ISA to be crazy.
I remember even as a kid who couldn't appreciate a deep story playing the first Killzone I actually sympathized with the Helghast.
I think that the Templin Institute has a physical headquarters located in a pocket dimension outside normal space and time. This allows their analysts to pick up several organizations from differente worlds and eras, and analyze them based on local historical evidence. The organizations they show are also real, since the Institute has access to multiple dimensions, including ones where those organizations actually exist.
We vehemently deny that the Templin Institute has ever been involved in any kind of trans-dimensional travel. Please remain where you are so our agents can question you on just where exactly you've been getting this information.
have you ever heard of ua-cam.com/channels/2hNLPRiEpEuq7bMA7PA7Pg.html
Do a TI video on the TI. 😀
I knew it...*X-Files theme plays*
They reside in a "prime" reality. A nexus so to speak where other realities spawn from. From what I can see they practice a policy of non-interference. Simply watching,studying, and chronicling. At least...that's the official line
This always bothered me about killzone, it feels like you're on the wrong side of the conflict.
There's not really a right side in it at all: the ISA started out as bad guys, and the Helghast became bad guys. It's one of the better aspects of the world it's set in, I think.
the player was never on the wrong side... they forgot to mention the gate tax Helgan started leveling against earth ships coming from other systems going to old terra.
it's implied that the Helgan also launched expeditionary test forces against other colony worlds
Kinda like in real life...
The games did a really bad job explaining why anyone should root for the ISA. I started playing the series with the second game, and it was not clear to me for a long time why I as player character was invading Helghan, which belongs to the Helghast.
The Tragedy of Helghan will not be forgotten Brothers and Sisters of Helghan. We are the Helghast, and by our right humanity is ours!
They are the fucking Nazis, from space !!!
Marsupilami it's like you learned nothing from this video.
I posted before even watching the vid XD
lmao I understand
Sev Irken Evans this is only one side of the whole story
In the end, the Helghast were entirely justified in their actions because the ISA ended up "accidentally" committing mass genocide on the Helghan people.
Yeah let's just ignore the whole fascist dictatorship, warmongering, suppression of any kind of rights, and planning to use the weapons on that ship to obliterate a planet. All the ISA did was defend themselves and others from the hellish weapon the helghast were going to use.
Gav Campbell
>Implying a successful liberal democracy that guarantees rights can exist in a poor hellhole with tons of sanctions placed on it
>implying that the ISA had no intention of genociding the Helghas when they forced them on to an inhospitable planet.
Gav Campbell those things wouldn't have happened if the Helghans were left alone. They paid for their homeland in the most literal sense of the word, they had every right to seek independence.
This story should be a lesson against everything you've listed, the ISA practically cultivated the violent extremism that took over and did everything they could to ensure no peace could exist without genocide on the Helghan population.
Jixijenga
An now they need to wipe out the Helghast as they'll stop at nothing to do the same to the UCN and possibly humanity as a whole. What they should have done after KZ3 was either finish them all off or force them to disarm their entire military before allowing them to settle on Vekta. An don't give me any of that "it was their planet first" bullshit either.
Gayv Campbell, you don't know shit about the Helgans do you?
This is one franchise that needs a sequel.
There were 6 games (2 psp and vita games)
@@chuckhalo Shadow Fall remains the most previous title, and that was back in 2013. 😑
@@CPT85 you said it like there was 1 game
@@chuckhalo And? I still want it to keep going.
Why can't I play as the helghast, makes me sad
Blackadder you can in killzone: mercenary but only in like the finnely 3 missions there's 9 the multiplayer is the best
The fans have been asking that for years.
There's a reason I liked Multiplayer.
We need a game from the Helghan perspective and how they take back what’s theirs.
Rivera agreed. Maybe as a dlc for killzone shadow fall. But in the form of a prequel. During the last bit of killzone 3
I am still waiting for a Killzone where you play as a Helghast. The war between the factions is full of shades of grey so it would be nice to see how people feel on the other side of that conflict. Especially that they are back to Vekta now.
I agree. In many respects, I felt earth was actually the aggressor / bad guy in the series. The Helghast weren't exactly angels, but in war, who is? They were defending their own home...I can't blame them.
This is what makes me fear for the future of mankind.
This is all fictional but still people support insurgents that are aggainst proper humanity and our planet.
Earth is mother everything else is expendable, no crime no matter how henious is unjustified when it comes to the interests of Mankind and mother Earth.
People like you are worrying as well because you are basically blind and you won't distinguish what's right and wrong. You also said that anything goes no matter how heinous it is, those heinous crimes are usually used as a recruiting tool for your enemy so good job for basically creating new recruits for them not to mention that you encourage your enemies to be just as if not even more heinous.
I also have a couple of random comparisons to real life that I would like to make:
1- People who followed their leadership blindly gave us the nazis and we all know how great those people were.
2- About the heinous crimes, look at how extremists use the collateral damage of civilians as a marketing tools to attract the hopeless and the angry people.
3- You fight for the interests of your faction, some of our modern wars destabilized entire regions till our current day just for the interests of a few politicians. Time has showed us that the interests of politicians aren't always in the interest of the people. ( I won't mention any examples because I don't want to open a debate about which wars are correct and which aren't, each one of us got their own opinions on the subject.)
4- Violence only generates more violence, the allies could have basically raped and murdered every german and japanese person they saw after their victory but they didn't, they ended the war and stopped the blood shed because that's the humane choice.
Last, let me explain my point of view, the Helghast are an entire race that occupied a full planet. They were led astray by their blind faith in their corrupt leaders that saw them as tools and means to increase their power and authority. They were dumped on a toxic planet and had to basically evolve to survive their. Their children were fed propaganda that's supported by their harsh realities since their birth. The only way for them to strive was by working hard and that actually paid off, exactly like what Visari said. Their own leader nuked their city. A mad scientist from their own ranks destroyed their entire planet, you see where I am getting at? The situation with those people is a bit of a cluster fuck, it's too complex to simply throw an entire race with every single life in it down the drain. That's why I said it would be interesting to see how those people survive from day to day, what kind of political propaganda are they fed, what keeps those people living on that toxic wasteland and what power made them thrive in it? Those are interesting questions for me that I hope I will get an answer to in upcoming Killzone games.
You are overthinking life.
All is simple.
Humanity's interests> everyone else.
This is why i love warhammer 40k there are no good or bad boys there just grey areas like in real life, because every side has their own truth.
No I am not really, under thinking is just as dangerous as over thinking. I am not saying that one should stand and consider all these variables if a war happened, you gotta look out for your own, but you gotta open up and start considering other solutions to your problem eventually.
I got into Warhammer 40k because of the grey areas and it opened up my eyes to the fact that things aren't always the way they look, there are layers beneath everything that can change the way you perceive things, just loved that aspect about 40k. Too bad it's spehss mahrins and friends now, I feel like gw chose the champs of 40k already. At least we got Age of Sigmar.
When I was younger I bought the game thinking I was going to be playing Helghast. I don't remember any other game in my childhood disappointing me as much as Killzone.
would have been more fun to play as the helgans.
#HelgansDidNothingWrong
I agree
Agreed, however I am biased to many fascism goverments
Well, We can't say they did *Nothing* wrong. I mean, They clearly couldn't prevent the power struggle from happening after Visari died, which caused the civil war that destroyed most of their planet. And in the context of the game, I can technically say the ISA didn't start *that specific war*. What really kicked everything off though was the UCN invading an independent Star System after the Helghan Corporation had paid for it.
-Vault- -Boy1- hmm sounds a lot like WW2
ua-cam.com/video/e9ARiU39k3A/v-deo.html
Nothing wrong, huh.........
The story of the Helghast and the nation they managed to built, and how it was destroyed, is sad.
Just sad.
One was taking from them and the other was destroyed.
Daily reminder tha the only thing the Helghast did wrong was losing
+Project Imperium Even then, they had no choice in losing. The plot DEMANDED the ISA to win from the beginning.
+Aeiou WW2?
Altec *Helghan Forever* plot armour
+Supernova Dragon ^^Practically the only reason the ISA won the Second Extrasolar War.
All the terrible things that happened later could have been avoided if the ISA had left them alone.
The ISA are the real bad guys. The Helghast had their planet, their economies, culture and richness were stolen from them by the ISA. Good video Templin, I made something similar last year about this.
*UCN
8:58 "In the Confusion" Yeah, that's one way to put it,
Modern issue: Racism.
Solution: Full body suit.
Modern issue: Shootings.
Solution: Body armor.
Modern issue: Virus.
Solution: Face mask.
Can we all get issued Helghast uniforms? ;p
I would drop some serious cash for a functional replica of a Helghast uniform.
I would become a helghast war criminal for one
@@cpob2013 wat
Hotel: trivago
@@Xaxp and a sta-52
This game was fantastic. The action, the cut scenes, the swap in characters for each level, my god, the speeches! Fantastic!
I've played all the main Killzone games, I don't remember any of this. It generally makes the Killzone universe more interesting.
^
A lot of lore used to be on the game's website
Oh, I am so happy to see a video like this. Killzone is one my favorite franchises.
Calvin_Coolage same
I never realized how killzone reflected so much realism of what happened in europe in the 20 century making sure it wasn't just bad guys are bad for no reason
Hope a new chapter of killzone will soon came out..this is such an interesting game series!
Anyway..nice description: the person who speaked has a beautiful voice too
Didn't even think of this one but I am so happy! Loved the Helghan in Killzone :)
THE HELGHAST DID NOTHING WRONG
Amen
Quite literally.
That's what I'm saying! Cowardly UCN and ISA not liking a nation who takes pride in themselves as a people, and wanting to be the best they can be.
Really fucking activates my almonds
screw are issues the helghast need true equality and freedom from the UCN and ISA
+Puppet
I mean even before the self pride thing, they basically exiled them to die on a hellscape.
The Helghast are literally the good guys in the killzone series
Bullshit
Literally
Even if they weren't I don't especially have anything against them. They were pushed to be what they are today by the ISA
Only if your dumb but they already did a vid on it
@@dantewilliams2757I don't believe the Helghast are the good guys, but are you referring to the very inaccurate UA-cam short Templin released two years ago?
Just found the channel, LOVE the concept and subscribed. This particular piece was a better intro to the Killzone universe than the first few HOURS of any of the main trilogy of the actual GAMES. Well done.
Thank ya kindly! hope ya stick around
@@TemplinInstitutenice video man for the helghast
4 years old and still among my most favorite videos by the Institute.
Dudes...that sounds mor elike that the Helghast did nothing wrong....In my eyes they simply seemed to defend themselves from invaders. That said we basicly play the bad guys every time
I wanted a story in killzone on the helghan side..they did nothing wrong one bit
Are you serious...? they spent a good part of the video going over how corrupt their leadership was and the lengths they were willing to go to launch a war despite the huge potential loss of life to their population. No side here is innocent, at all. I think that was always the point.
B.O.S Ranger Hawke
Then show evidence of ISA troops gunning down unarmed civs and POWs
Drader THE PROPHET OF AIDEN
And shoot anyone an everyone that doesn't comply with their ideology and plan to re-engineer a virus meant for them to kill off all the Vektans instead of doing the sensible thing and just destroying it. Am I seriously the only one that realizes there are no good guys in Killzone?
@@49mozzer In Killzone Mercenaries we can find ISA Troops burning Helghan civis alive.
I think a prequel game, novel, or graphic novel set during and after the First Extrasolar War would be awesome, showing the transformation of Helghan from a private enterprise and corporation to a fully-fledged nation state.
we only got that painting in killzone 2 of the war.
I wouldn't say the Empire is at an end. More like its taking a new shape.
Great video.
I never knew the bad guys of Killzone were actually victims the whole time.
I mean…. Civilians are the victims on both sides. Neither government is commendable or worth respecting. A bunch of assholes in space fucking you over isn’t a great reason for becoming a bunch of giant space assholes. Given the time tables of the Helghast attack, they have become more adapted to their current planet…. it’s been so long that they are literally a new subspecies of Human. Discovering a cool new element and instead of cool shit you make a WMD. They literally could have colonized other planets…ideological vengeance won them nothing but getting destroyed by their own WMD that they planned to use on civilians. Everyone is the fucking worst. One Evil does not justify another.
What is this channel. My god this is some of the best content I've found on UA-cam. Thank you so much for publishing these.
The lore for Killzone is surprisingly deep for a series with such a bland and un-stable series of games...
the sense your comment makes is surprisingly high for a comment with such a bland and unstable use of the english language and grammar.
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@Jesus Supreme The "spacemarines" trend is long gone. Thats why Halo and Destiny are not popular anymore. People are sick of it.
The was an amazing documentary/review of the history of Helghast.
I want to see an RTS game in the Killzone universe. The ISA campaign would be following the events of the trilogy, while the Helghast campaign could be the successful conquest of Vekta and defense against the UCN counterattack and have its climax with a strike at Earth itself.
No, make it like Galactic Conquest from Battlefront!
People of Helgan unite!
Yeah the Helgas are the bad guys now but started as the oppressed underdog, it's more or less the UCN creating the monster that killed so many
Whoa, whoa, whoa... "War hero jan templar" "Visary was killed in the confusion of battle"
Templin institute are isa dogs
To be fair, Jan Templar was a badass. But I did cringe when they said Visari was "killed in the confusion of battle."
@@altechelghanforever9906 Templar was part of the war criminals that wanted Visari dead, i doubt he would have stop rico for "killing him in the confusion of the battle" I can respect him as a warrior, but that's it. He is a good soldier in the wrong side.
@@estacion7386 That I can agree with. There are a lot of inaccuracies in this video
One of the best stories ever written in a video game
Not going to lie, this video brought tears to my eyes. This is awesome and saddening at the same time. 😊
Wow, that's some deep lore. I hope we get Killzone 5.
Nah. They’ll keep milking Horizon
Imagine Combine Empire and Helghan Empire teamed up.
Such an under appreciated series. I legitimately think killzone 1 is just as great as 2 and 3.
Earth: well we have take a planet and destroyed the other, we have now a entire war fleet with vengeful gas lovers with weapons that we have no idea how they work, anyone have any idea how we deal with it?
Vekta: Find a new planet for then and let then live in peace?
Earth:Good idea, let's give then half of Vekta.
Vekta: WAIT WHAT?!
Earth: well that planet was their's after all.
Vekta: But they will want to get the rest of the planet, you cannot do that!!
Earth: Already done, they are already incoming.
Vekta: WHAT?! ARE YOU MAD WE NEED TO EVACUATE THE POPULATION OR THEIR WRATH WILL FALL UPON US!!
Earth: Not my problem, be more efficient i don't want to save your ass again.
*end transmission*
Vekta:we are fucked.
Helghast: yeah you are.
Vekta: HOW THE F- *shoot sound*
Helghast: home sweet home.
Denis Dangelo DEATH TO THE ISA!!! I loved the ever loving shit out of this game.
Take my like good sir
Denis Dangelo sounds familiar
Poetic justice??
Ave Brasil, Ave Helghast, Ave Imperio
I just accidentally stumbled upon this. This is now officially my fave channel
Killzone...the only FPS franchise where your always on the wrong side of the conflict while thinking that your the hero.
This is exactly why I fucking love Killzone and the Helghan Empire because they are not your typical 'alien spieces that just wants to take over everything' but are like how they are for a good reason, even though they are not humans of course, well kind of.
I’m driven to tears every time I see this.
The professional report in this brief video of the story of the (Killing Zone) game series encouraged me to subscribe to this UA-cam channel, which I liked, especially the first part of it, and I hope that you will make a video explaining the story of the game (Fear) in its three parts, and thank you for your efforts
We need a killzone game From helghast perspective
Pre-Killzone 1, showing the true toll of their exile and unstable political climate. There had to be a civil war and seeing the rise of Visari and the crimes of the ISA would be amazing.
The Templin Institute your channel explores all the background minutia in everything sci-fi and I love you for that! And so amazing well put together. My inner nerd/dog feels like its getting a leg twitching belly scratch every time I watch one of your vids...best way I can think to describe it...
A bit late, but I believe Helghast were the best enemy. They became the image on every poster, disk case, and advertisement of the killzone series. If they had not been the enemy, you would have been fighting dumb looking Vektans instead of constantly seeing the awesome Helghast.
Wow yalls channel has really boomed! Congrats!
You should do the Tau empire from 40k
Or the Sith Empire (Post-Great Hyperspace War) from star wars legends.
Or on of the Shadowrun Corps.
That assault on Radek's palace and ensuing boss battle with Radek himself is by far the best, hardest, and easily 'nope' on the replay moment I have had.
GDI-Global defensive initiative.
The Umbrella Corporation
Stars from Resident Evil series
Blackwatch from prototype
Tom Clancy the division-cleaners, Rikers rioters, last man battalion and the division
Fallout series-Brotherhood of the Middle East Brotherhood of Steel from the West Coast Brotherhood of Steel from the East Coast, new California Republic Caiser's Legion,
Vault Tec Corporation
ISA
Empire from the Rising Sun
The Rangers from the Wasteland Series
Metro series-the order, the red line,
Judge Dredd series the judges, judge death and his brothers, Alien Xenomorph, predators, colonial Marines, the Warriors movie / video game the Warriors Destroyers High hacks Riffs Rogues baseball Furies the Lizzies the orphans the Moonshine runners
Mister Phatty Aperture Laboratories, Rapture
The United States of North America, Star Carriers
Colombia, Bioshock Infinite.
Equestria, MLP (Franchise)
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. April Fools episode.
+Caesar's Legion
+Brotherhood of Steel, California & DC.
+ Metro main factions
Jin-Roh Wolf Brigade
you are the best .. you dont know how long i was looking for a video about Helghan's
as i always say , not all enemies you see in games or movies are all evil by nature just pushed to that place and doing anything to survive or taking revenge
Why no ISA soldier was wearing breathing mask or filtration on helgan in killzone 2 and 3?
I'd wager it's the same reason why they didn't die from radiation poisoning from the red dust attack in KZ2;
They stocked up on enough radiation pills to survive the aftermath of a nuclear attack, so I'm guessing they had the resources (unlike the Helghast due to UCN sanctions imposed for decades) to provide treatment for the effects of Helgan's atmosphere. Either that, or they didn't stay on the planet for long enough to suffer from such effects in full.
Or its just out of the ass, because they want to make the Helgast scary by wearing masks, but not the ISA. Pure propaganda irl. They neither had the modern treatment to stop a toxic athmosphere, nor they stayed on the planet for a short time.
@@dimitaru.8408
Late reply but..
Yeah that's probably why, I like the ISA...but their designs in K2 could've been better. They could've designed some pretty cool and "functional" gear for the ISA's invasion forces, like make their oxygen masks (if they had any) and breathing masks look less..."ghoulish" compared to the helghast and more "sophisticated". (if that makes sense) Like show that they spared no expense in equipping the soldiers with the latest in extreme climate survival gear. (minus some minor economic, government and corporate cutbacks..) My point is they could've made ISA gear look more streamlined, less obvious tubes and all that, atleast I think it would've awsome!
@@navilluscire2567 Yeah, plus it would certainly be easier for the creators to make a universal mask for every ISA soldier, instead of a face design.
@@dimitaru.8408
Yeah that could've worked, although I wouldn't have wanted them spend all that effort making those faces only to 'hide' them. It would make sense for the ISA characters to take off their survival gear and breathing masks in places that were sealed from the harsh outside and with plenty of 'clean' oxygen, like the insides of the ISA'S cruisers, some vehicles or planetside structures with serious air filtration systems. That way we could take in those distinct face models while it making sense in context! Sadly I don't think will ever see a continuation *or even a solid 'reboot'* of this series...
Brilliant video, thanks for the history lesson. I have always wondered how the Helgast got to where they were at the start of the games, now I know 🖒 p.s as a suggestion I would like to see a video about the Cardassian union from deep space nine if possible?
They say history repeats itself. Is the Helghan Empire not a prime example of this?
The Helghan did nothing wrong.
THE IMPERIUM OF MAN - Warhammer 40K (No joke, the ultimate sci fi empire)
SgtGigawattz Umm... The Emperor Protects
The Emperor is Dead, i mean look at him, he is trapped on that chair and not able to move and is mummified, he is dead, gone.
@@Sh4d891 your Heresy has been noted citizen. The Inquisition would like to speak with you.
@@samg5463 I have a message from Tovarish Stalin, *Takes Ak 47 out*
GO TO HELL FASCIST! *FIRES*
@@Sh4d891 STFU COMMIE
It's Funny How THEY Can Make The Good Guys Like Like Villians.
The Helghast Empire Was Right.
This is one of the GREATEST UA-cam channels to ever exist!
Can you do factions from M.A.G. (Massive Action Game)? The game that people used to play online only with 128 vs 128 players.
HOW HAVE I ONLY JUST FOUND THIS CHANNEL IT IS AMAAAAAAAAZING!
That was great. If only this was told in the games.
This game franchise, particularly Killzone 3 hold a special place in my heart. I'm glad that people still remember this great game
We need more of a universe explanation for this
I truly love these videos, please could you do a video on the Forerunner Ecumene and a little on the Ancient Human Empire from Halo, or a video on the Peacekeeper from Farscape?
I've been waiting for this, ah the tears!
Whomever came up with that storyline DESERVES an award man.
Imperium of Man please
God....the soundtrack playing in the background is so apt for this video.... absolute killer....👌
My god the ISA seem like the bad guys
Fans of the killzone series. Now it’s our time to return our favourite
Game. And this time the helghast shall not be defeated.
I heed your call friend HELGHAN FOREVER
This sounds so realistic and happened so many times over the years on Earth that its scary.
Brilliant video thank you, excellent source of information on the killzone book and behind the scenes
These is some Orwellian writing in killzone
I know I've finished playing Killzone 2 on the year 2008, but Visari's Speech still linger's in my mind. "Helghan belongs to Helghast... "
FOR ULTRAMAR! Would love a Ultramar video! :-)
Primarch Roboute Guilliman Rogal Dorn was better.
Rogal Dorn did indeed build his own Empire before his re-unification with the Emperor. So did I. This is not a competition.
Primarch Roboute Guilliman no competition Guilliman but you and the other primarchs allowed terra to burn and cause the death Sanguinius and the God Emperor himself!
Emperor lives and he still watch over his loyal subjects. You words are heretical!
Primarch Roboute Guilliman Yeah feature the Smurf village
"violence has its own economy, therefore be thorough and precise in your investment" -the Helghast philosophy
For helgan
Fur Rudy!
Seeing this and the breakdown of how an interstellar megacorp turns itself into a nation state, I'd love to see you guys break down the Mutant Chronicles setting for analysis.
Glad I found out who the good guys really were before I played the games lol, Helghan forever
I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT if you guys did a video on the Principality of Zeon and/or the Earth Federation of Mobile Suit Gundam and the spanning history of the Universal Century.
Besides that, awesome video! Helghast seem like they got the butt end of Killzone, really.
basically a story of people robbed of what was theirs and subjugated until the very last second. They may have been autoritharian but the true opressors werent them.
Excelletnt video! It's nice to see any kind of revival of a long-forgotten franchise like Killzone! Could you maybe do a follow-up video on the ISA or UCN?
I hope there is a game were the helgast win and rebuild literally everything they lost and the isa crumbles itself.
I can picture a killzone game that has an intro cinamatic of about 5 minutes of both sides propangada and some backstory then sets up the most recent political tension and from there lets you pick a side and influence the war, your sides role and policies from frontline actions and ulitmatly how history remembers the conflict and those incolved.
It could be a nuanced way to tell a war story and flesh out both sides even have some seperated colonies like mentioned in 3
nothing really excuses the actions of the helghast, but id make the argument that none of this would have occurred had the UCN not grown paranoid over the helghast growing nor the declaration of war, the helghast didn't start this, it surely does put their actions in perspective. we can spend ages talking about how wrong it was for the helghast to start a war and what not, or condemn the UCN for the shit they did. but ultimately we have to ask ourselves how do we end this without getting innocents involved simply because they are descendants of the shits who had condemned the helghast to a living nightmare. the helghast are a people betrayed simply because of the UCN's fear. war is unfavorable, but i'd be lying if i said I wouldn't struggle choosing who to side with if i ever was faced with the decision of joining one of the two factions. situation really is tricky xD
Just found this channel and really loving it so far. Hope you do more flag/emblem comparisons at some point cause I thought that was really interesting. Maybe a faction you could examine would be the LMB (Last Man Battalion) from The Division? Otherwise, I'll watch your content anyway! Thanks! :)