I love the weapons, the sniper is awesome! I just really wish they gave us an option for burst mode and option for single fire. But the sniper is pretty awesome though.
I'm not a fan of the burst fire on the rifle, personally. I wish it had the option to switch to single fire. It's fine against targets that aren't moving, but on laterally moving targets, many of your shots tend to completely whiff unless you somehow have perfect accuracy while dragging the gun (very unlikely for most people I'd imagine). And considering you're only getting 3 opportunities per magazine to hit your shots, that ends up being a lot of wasted ammo. The new armor set passives are interesting. They're a good addition for players like myself where I always play with random groups. I never know exactly what I'm working with, so knowing that I won't instantly die to the first person recklessly firing a flamethrower or arc thrower in my general direction is pretty nice.
the issue with the new armor is that 50% damage reduction isnt shit. arc weapons still 1 shot you. tesla towers still 1 shot you. fire and gas still does a ton of damage. cosmetically, i like it, but its objectively bad.
I think it's cool, but I don't really see a use case for the sniper. It doesn't kill devastators in 1 shot while counter sniper can 1-tap the heads. It kills overseers slower than purifier, it just doesn't seem to hit as hard as I wouild like a sniper to. I'm Mostly I'm just excietd we have a sniper tab now because it means we will get more at some point. Hopefully we get one more focused on piercing without the 3 round burst. I want a sniper to be accurate and powerful, and this one doesn't quite seem to hit either.
Add to that list of issues the burst itself. Long range shooting against a moving target? Don't forget to keep leading after your first bullet came out, otherwise the rest of the burst will miss.
It's much better against the bots than the other factions. Gun can 2 tap most bots and it's long range you can snipe them from quite a long distance since the scope is pretty good.
I do believe this is a good start for the implementation of actual classed snipers. It’s decent and is fun to use although it does have its faults, and all for free too
@ its just so annoying now, first actual sniper we get, its charge three round burst and only has 9 shots, so you literally get 3 shots. How tf was that approved?
@@paparoach3071 Yeah, the ammo economy is terrible, but then I remembered that this weapon is a direct clone from Killzone. The Helldivers team cannnot change how the weapon functions or its mag size, because then it won't be the same weapon from Killzone. The damage can be increased though - It feels like this weapon is doing 350 damage per burst instead of per shot.
Damage is nice, Ergo is nice. The issue is it flinches the enemies hard, so you miss 1 or 2 of your burst, and hit a separate limb or hit box. On such a limited set of ammo? It either needs 12 mags, or it needs a single fire mode. 2/3 of your mag to drop a Dev in the chest, or any of the medium Illuminate? It's rough. Either make it burst down medium enemies in 1 burst, or give it single shot, so we can actually precision shot the devastators weak points, and mob properly. " As it stands, it COOKS tanks and hulk heat sinks.
Aint gonna lie. The bad ammo economy, reload simulator feel of the game is killing my enjoyment. On top of the fact, it feels like you have to press reload 1000 times to get it to work. I dont understand the course they're taking starving us of ammo.
They’re afraid to give us decent ammo economy because they’re worried we’d be more powerful, meanwhile they’ll release the orbital napalm barrage which kills everything and literally plays the game for you.
Guns are worth their damage, ammo economy, and skill level required to use them. If youre picking fights without the ammo needed youre going to struggle so its wise to choose your battles. Also the resupply is the way, and is supposed to keep your team together and ready to go, use it.
@@mr.realistic1014 Thanks but I dont need a tutorial. I think the point is some of us would rather.... you know shoot in a horde shooter. Lets not with the skill issue narrative as if the game is Dark Souls. Shooting=Fun. Less ammo =Less fun. This game is not difficult and its not Metal Gear Solid either. Its having a bit of an identity crisis. I'm personally not playing to be sneaking around. Its just my opinion on how I like to play. I'm aware of the game mechanics and necessary strategy to consistently beat level 10 on each faction but its not peak fun for me.
nah, light pen weapons are so bad, especially when they have low durable damage as well. The game is definitely a reload simulator because weapons generally deal way too low damage. Like, try using the medium pen assault rifles against Alpha Commanders, and you're probably using like half a magazine just to pop their heads, not to mention then having to deal with their spawns.
@ Thank you for calling this out before some smoothbrain in the comment section says it. Supply pack is supposed to be a support stratagem to help your teammates with powerful support weapons, or help them out of sticky situations. NOT so you can selfishly hog it all in order to make your primary (whose sole purpose is usually for mobbing) even functional enough to do its intended job in the first place. If you need to waste an entire stratagem (and backpack) slot to make your primary functional, the gun is broken and not working properly. TL;DR: This gun is hot garbage until they add at least two more shots per reload, and you can’t convince me otherwise.
I legitimately played diff 9 illuminate missions with siege ready passive armor and no supply pack and I never ran out of ammo during my ops with the sniper.
@@Spooflsproblem is the purifiers blast radius is so much larger that it can kill 3-4 enemies with each shot, this gun can only deal a lot of damage to a single enemy, I could take out an entire devistator/illuminate patrol in a few shots
@@SpooflsYeah actually no. That 350 damage is if all 3 shots hit. We found this out seeing as this weapon is plasma base meaning the projectile does 100 damage and the plasma does 250 meaning 1 burst should kill an illuminate in 1 burst to the body but it doesn't it requires 2 which would only make sense if all the bolts werent dealing 350 seeing as explosive goes through their armor and the squid overseera have 600 health you should be dealing 750 damage in just explosive.
@@Xeceo its not an issue for accel rifle either, since it’s a burst and it still has a decent blast radius. yeah purifier’s radius is bigger, but you can still clear stuff very well with it. Between purifier and rifle, purifier is considerably better, but not just it’s explosive radius makes it better
@4:46 Doug when he doesn’t realize that the reason a Jet Overseer just landed at his feet, was because of his own doing. That double take was, priceless!!! 😂 😂 😂
having to charge up a sniper rifle to two shot something when you only have 3 shots in the mag, and 8 total mags, feels bad. It feels like the pre-buff purifier.
I think it needs a small buff to the ammo capacity in the mag. The mag count I think would be fine with a couple more bursts per reload. -This would allow it to break shields before reload and kill more than one medium chaff per mag. -The animation for the mag discharging per burst could be altered to drain an equivalent portion of each cylinder(instead of one whole cylinder) preventing the need to change the actual model.
That would remove the definition of a sniper by having so over 10 bullets maybe, so I think a good think is maybe make it 2 burst shots, higher accuracy with low drop off as it stands, it classifies as a sniper
This one seems quicker at dealing with overseers but I think I still am gonna stick with dominator. Aiming is hard with a controller already so I’ve been dodging every single weapon that performs better with a scope on. I think that weapon has more potential with bots.
10:42 I wouldn’t be surprised if they removed that intentionally. I had multiple missions soft lock because an enemy was stuck below the terrain near the flag.
Overseers are 2 charged shots with the purifier which also flinch them, and you dont even have to hit them directly. This sniper needs 1 more shot in the mag I feel.
5:45 I completely agree, I want the challenge back. Helldivers feels just too easy at the moment, on all fronts. I also think there isnt enough enemies
I have TWO grievances with this 'sniper rifle' One: and I've been on this hill since I've ever SEEN a 'burst sniper' in borderland and killzone2 If the xm-22 was deemed too mechanically complex to mass manufacture and maintain (a rifle that used the kinetic force of the first shot to absorb and counterbalance the next two at a supposed 1800rpm) and every SINGLE Dahl burst sniper CANT STAY ON TARGET 👀...then this one had no place to even fight to be in. Two: PLASMA ACCELERATOR 🙄 I can out distance the gun with any of the marksman rifles, automatic rifles or energy rifles. Max distance 180m arcs out at 190m and ineffective at 200m unless you are dumping shots down on top of enemies as a piece of artillery. The poor thing has no place. If it was a burst kinetic, or even a railgun adjacent primary it would be competing with it's actual weapon class. Might be free ninety nine, but it's a rescue from peta
Hopefully this is the beginning of them adding sniper rifles to our primary weapon slot, I've been itching to try a true sniper role for bots that doesn't require a stradagem slot to use, plus with the new wasp launcher you could be the ultimate long range member of your team, i can't wait to see what other cross overs they come up with next, im sitting here trying to think of one that would go well with helldivers, kill zone was almost too perfect, i imagine a star trip troopers collaboration would be hilarious 😂
swap out supply backpack for stalwart and own the hordes and keep your accelerator sniper for the overseers. bring other red/green stratagems to own the harvesters.
This gun blows. It's not even remotly a sniper, it's a California compliant M16. Needs a 30 round mag and a reclassification as a Marksman rifle or put it in the energy section.
The real complaint? The sniper helmet is from Killzone 3 but the sniper is nabbed fron Mercenary Nah that's just me being petty, makes sense they'd want a more exciting future-y plasma rifle, I just loved the vc-32 in 3 and wish that was the sniper we got
In order for this to be better than purifier it would need single fire mode and more damage. Also no charge up. Just make it stronger with the same small mag.
I'm running into an odd inconsistency with the sniper. As host of the lobby most often with my friend group, host doesn't get the impact damage that guest divers do. Landing the shots on the same places on the same types of enemies isn't resulting in kills or the same remaining HP. (Tested across bugs, bots and squids with the accelerator and counter sniper for finishing off wounded targets created by the accelrator.)
I feel like maybe if it has a single fire mode too for slightly less dmg too Also I've noticed a lot less weapons on the map , on calypso I liked dropping in with no weapons. I believe the ships are explosive immune so the sniper is awful for that. But good at the harvester shields at least
the ammo cap per mag is so hilariously bad that when i tested the sniper, i tell you, EVERY SINGLE TIME i forgot to reload, just tried to shoot the illuminate, but oh no, mag is empty lmao, turns out three pity shots per mag is unbelievably small your brain can't even process you need to reload, because you never run out of ammo that fast on any other weapon. sta-11 smg is also a joke. look at the crazy rate of fire...and now look at the ammo cap... seriously, who would even want to pay their hard-earned SCs for that? at least we got these for free tho
Shields (except for outpost landed ufo ship shields) take full explosive damage contrary to popular belief. Why UFOs shields don't take explosive damage is possibly a bug
I don't wanna complain now that it was free... but who thought that a Sniper Rifle shouldn't be efficient when headshotting, and be a burst fire weapon? With that Ammo economy, I'd expect to kill medium enemies (like devastators) in a single burst.
maybe I'm just biased cause I don't care for burst especially on a sniper and I hate charge up style weapons, but after trying the sniper against bots and squids I hate it, like no ammo, constantly reloading, and just struggles to kill anything where a diligence or counter sniper or one of the plasma guns or even the dominator would do the job better/easier and with more ammo, it just seems like a set of traits that just don't flow well together. I think if I could turn the burst off I'd probably like it a lot more cause it seems that at med range or farther the burst just dances across different parts of the enemy spreading out damage instead of kill the damn thing
Sniper is strictly a worse purifier due to significantly worse ammo economy, burst fire makes hitting all 3 headshots impossible at range and far less explosion radius so no crowd control.
I can't like it for the life of me man, a Sniper that burst-fires? If I can't go for head-taps and swivel from target to target, it to me is just a inferior DCS... If it had a semi-auto mode or 6 more rounds in the magazine I think I'd be okay with the terrible ammo economy though
VC 39, my old favourite gun from Killzone Mercenary. Absolutely same design and functionality. It used to shoot green plasma tho. With bigger spread and AoE. (Each shot was like mini grenade) Knowing how "close" to original they made it, can surely tell that ammo capacity buff is not happening ever. Same with firing modes.
It's horrible mate. Explosive effect is nowhere near good, ammo economy sucks, triple shot that can't be removed. It might see some play vs. automatons but that's about it. At the moment, there's nothing redeeming about it.
No, more unwieldy than the purifier and only has burst shots so you'd probably kill with two burst with the sniper when you can two full charge the flybois, 3 if you hit the body
Only thing I hate about this sniper is the ammo economy
fr! im kinda surprised its so little
I wish there was an alt mode to fire one shot at a time and the shotgun mode on the rifle.
Yeah, can only really be used when you pair it with a support weapon with just as terrible ammo economy
That and they need to remove the stagger
One kill per reload is big brain design
I love the weapons, the sniper is awesome! I just really wish they gave us an option for burst mode and option for single fire. But the sniper is pretty awesome though.
My exact idea as well, so many times i dont want to fire a burst
It’d be cool if they made it like the purifier in that way. Hold for burst fire, tap for single fire
What is this, a magazine FOR ANTS?!
This guy is showing his age…..
This weapon would go crazy if you could simply have a single fire by just tapping
The tesla tower has comedic timing zapping you out the whip like that
I'm not a fan of the burst fire on the rifle, personally. I wish it had the option to switch to single fire. It's fine against targets that aren't moving, but on laterally moving targets, many of your shots tend to completely whiff unless you somehow have perfect accuracy while dragging the gun (very unlikely for most people I'd imagine). And considering you're only getting 3 opportunities per magazine to hit your shots, that ends up being a lot of wasted ammo.
The new armor set passives are interesting. They're a good addition for players like myself where I always play with random groups. I never know exactly what I'm working with, so knowing that I won't instantly die to the first person recklessly firing a flamethrower or arc thrower in my general direction is pretty nice.
the issue with the new armor is that 50% damage reduction isnt shit. arc weapons still 1 shot you. tesla towers still 1 shot you. fire and gas still does a ton of damage.
cosmetically, i like it, but its objectively bad.
I think it's cool, but I don't really see a use case for the sniper. It doesn't kill devastators in 1 shot while counter sniper can 1-tap the heads. It kills overseers slower than purifier, it just doesn't seem to hit as hard as I wouild like a sniper to. I'm Mostly I'm just excietd we have a sniper tab now because it means we will get more at some point. Hopefully we get one more focused on piercing without the 3 round burst. I want a sniper to be accurate and powerful, and this one doesn't quite seem to hit either.
Yeah this one ain’t it
Add to that list of issues the burst itself. Long range shooting against a moving target? Don't forget to keep leading after your first bullet came out, otherwise the rest of the burst will miss.
It can shoot down gunships
I want a heavy pen bolt action barret type sniper fr
the sniper simply needs a alt firing mode such as single fire. that would help ammo economy.
It's much better against the bots than the other factions. Gun can 2 tap most bots and it's long range you can snipe them from quite a long distance since the scope is pretty good.
Can't the DCS do that in just 1 shot? With more ammo?
@@hawk9mm And the Purifier kinda
@@hawk9mm yes.
Is it really 350 per shot? I feel like that’s not correct? Or maybe I was too high when I played.
cus it is explo, wish it was not explo
Idk but it takes about 4 bursts to blow a chargers back
@@DapimpBDSD 😮😏
it is 350 per bullet (direct and AoE) making it 1050 per burst/shot. Maybe the ratio of direct and explosion is weird but it has to be 350 per bullet
I do believe this is a good start for the implementation of actual classed snipers. It’s decent and is fun to use although it does have its faults, and all for free too
its useless, 9 shots in a mag is insane too. Like we are future we should have 60 round mags as standard
But you are forgetting they have a budget super earth is cheap
@ its just so annoying now, first actual sniper we get, its charge three round burst and only has 9 shots, so you literally get 3 shots. How tf was that approved?
@@paparoach3071 Yeah, the ammo economy is terrible, but then I remembered that this weapon is a direct clone from Killzone. The Helldivers team cannnot change how the weapon functions or its mag size, because then it won't be the same weapon from Killzone.
The damage can be increased though - It feels like this weapon is doing 350 damage per burst instead of per shot.
In original game each shot was like mini grenade tbh😂
But it's helldivers_moment.png so I'm used to expecting underpowered things
@@KillFrenzy96Killzone is fucking dead. They can either bring in a gun that actually matters (500xl) or change it to be balanced around HD2.
Damage is nice, Ergo is nice. The issue is it flinches the enemies hard, so you miss 1 or 2 of your burst, and hit a separate limb or hit box. On such a limited set of ammo? It either needs 12 mags, or it needs a single fire mode. 2/3 of your mag to drop a Dev in the chest, or any of the medium Illuminate? It's rough. Either make it burst down medium enemies in 1 burst, or give it single shot, so we can actually precision shot the devastators weak points, and mob properly. "
As it stands, it COOKS tanks and hulk heat sinks.
fancy meeting you here
lol what
It's a far worse Scorcher, even DCS or Jar do better job than it's supposed to as a precision weapon
No wonder it's handed out for free kek
tbf they were charging 615 supercredits for liberator no.2, so whether the weapon was good or not wasn't the factor for it being free.
Aint gonna lie. The bad ammo economy, reload simulator feel of the game is killing my enjoyment. On top of the fact, it feels like you have to press reload 1000 times to get it to work. I dont understand the course they're taking starving us of ammo.
They’re afraid to give us decent ammo economy because they’re worried we’d be more powerful, meanwhile they’ll release the orbital napalm barrage which kills everything and literally plays the game for you.
Guns are worth their damage, ammo economy, and skill level required to use them. If youre picking fights without the ammo needed youre going to struggle so its wise to choose your battles. Also the resupply is the way, and is supposed to keep your team together and ready to go, use it.
@@mr.realistic1014 Thanks but I dont need a tutorial. I think the point is some of us would rather.... you know shoot in a horde shooter. Lets not with the skill issue narrative as if the game is Dark Souls. Shooting=Fun. Less ammo =Less fun. This game is not difficult and its not Metal Gear Solid either. Its having a bit of an identity crisis. I'm personally not playing to be sneaking around. Its just my opinion on how I like to play. I'm aware of the game mechanics and necessary strategy to consistently beat level 10 on each faction but its not peak fun for me.
@@jojoadeyemi8239seems like you do lol
@@coldish6899 Cause peoples opinion about their enjoyment level of the game means they dont know how to play? Glazers need to grow up.
i really enjoy the new smg. feels like it absolutely shreds
Every gun is good. The bad thing is ammo cap per mag. This game is reloading simulator since the launch, and AH keeps it that way.
nah, light pen weapons are so bad, especially when they have low durable damage as well.
The game is definitely a reload simulator because weapons generally deal way too low damage.
Like, try using the medium pen assault rifles against Alpha Commanders, and you're probably using like half a magazine just to pop their heads, not to mention then having to deal with their spawns.
@GameFuMaster light pen would be ok if you have 100 bullets per mag. But nah, not happening.
Womp womp
There's a reason why I stick to the Sickle
Switching to your sidearm is faster than reloading
Been using the Exploding Crossbow against the illuminate, its been doing wonders lately
This gun kinda makes me wish for Shadowfall's plasma rifle. The one that's on the cover art.
Cool as it is, the charegup is too much. I want instant feedback with my guns.
same i think its the biggest problem
@@votpavelit's literally original design from Killzone Mercenary😂
It's like saying "I don't like that Ak-47 is automatic"🤣
@@LaserTractor Well if Ak-47 was only automatic, It will kinda suck
@@정일권-r3h sure but VC 39 was ONLY burst charge up rifle.
More powerful than it is in Helldivers 2 tho, but still.
@@LaserTractor i couldnt give less of a flying fuck how the gun was in kz i only care how it is in hd2
The ammo economy is horrendous. Borderline unplayable imo.
"Just use the supply backpack bro." Yeah great... thanks to the devs ridiculous decision to constantly have us playing without ammo is just not fun.
@ Thank you for calling this out before some smoothbrain in the comment section says it. Supply pack is supposed to be a support stratagem to help your teammates with powerful support weapons, or help them out of sticky situations.
NOT so you can selfishly hog it all in order to make your primary (whose sole purpose is usually for mobbing) even functional enough to do its intended job in the first place. If you need to waste an entire stratagem (and backpack) slot to make your primary functional, the gun is broken and not working properly.
TL;DR: This gun is hot garbage until they add at least two more shots per reload, and you can’t convince me otherwise.
I legitimately played diff 9 illuminate missions with siege ready passive armor and no supply pack and I never ran out of ammo during my ops with the sniper.
@@ricoanderson6626Either you stealthed really well, or you've been using turrets or gas to kill most enemies.
Just seems like a neutered Purifier
dawg its 350 dmg per shot, burst of 3, so it out damages purifier, purifier does 500 dmg
@@Spooflsproblem is the purifiers blast radius is so much larger that it can kill 3-4 enemies with each shot, this gun can only deal a lot of damage to a single enemy, I could take out an entire devistator/illuminate patrol in a few shots
@@SpooflsYeah actually no. That 350 damage is if all 3 shots hit. We found this out seeing as this weapon is plasma base meaning the projectile does 100 damage and the plasma does 250 meaning 1 burst should kill an illuminate in 1 burst to the body but it doesn't it requires 2 which would only make sense if all the bolts werent dealing 350 seeing as explosive goes through their armor and the squid overseera have 600 health you should be dealing 750 damage in just explosive.
@@Xeceo its not an issue for accel rifle either, since it’s a burst and it still has a decent blast radius. yeah purifier’s radius is bigger, but you can still clear stuff very well with it. Between purifier and rifle, purifier is considerably better, but not just it’s explosive radius makes it better
The fact that its burst only does kind of ruins its ammo econ...
I would use this with the stalwart or medium machine gun, anti tank emplacement, stun spear, and ether supply pack jump pack or some form of shield.
i miss when the stalwart was a primary weapon
just use the scorcher
I like the sniper but it sucks, anyway I feel like a glowing brain genius after driving the car decently.
The CS seems to do the same job but easier. I don't know, the weapon feels odd to me.
Unlike the new Sniper Rifle, DCS requires precision aiming.
The kind of thing you expect a Sniper Rifle to require.
@4:46 Doug when he doesn’t realize that the reason a Jet Overseer just landed at his feet, was because of his own doing.
That double take was, priceless!!! 😂 😂 😂
having to charge up a sniper rifle to two shot something when you only have 3 shots in the mag, and 8 total mags, feels bad. It feels like the pre-buff purifier.
Used it on bots bc there were no more squids when i got home and man is it satisfying
Currently, 3 rounds are wielded on a single clip. But it would be way better if we can reload each rounds independently (like p-4 senator).
No medium armor with the siege ready booster is a crime.
For real, light gets shredded way too fast and heavy armor is just a joke. Really hope a siege ready medium comes out in the future.
@LetsGoChamp- my thoughts exactly.
i just watched 43 minutes and 45 seconds straight of a helldivers 2 video. I do not regret anything.
Ive heard that you can one burst to the flyer guys from the illuminates head but you have to land all 3 of the burst in the head
They will flinch after the first shot, and the head will move.
Good luck hitting the entire burst like that.
@ you move with the enemy, you dont let lose the whole burst where there head was you adjust to hit at least most of it
the head has the most armor. the body on the overseers are weaker than their heads.
I think it needs a small buff to the ammo capacity in the mag. The mag count I think would be fine with a couple more bursts per reload.
-This would allow it to break shields before reload and kill more than one medium chaff per mag.
-The animation for the mag discharging per burst could be altered to drain an equivalent portion of each cylinder(instead of one whole cylinder) preventing the need to change the actual model.
Side note: I don't think overseers are confused by gas but do seem to take damage
That would remove the definition of a sniper by having so over 10 bullets maybe, so I think a good think is maybe make it 2 burst shots, higher accuracy with low drop off as it stands, it classifies as a sniper
10:40
Specifically the illuminate flags don't need you to kill all the nearby enemies, bug and bot flag missions still need you to clear the area
I think they forgot to add illuminate forces to the pool of enemy’s preventing flag capture while they in area
dominator is better
This one seems quicker at dealing with overseers but I think I still am gonna stick with dominator. Aiming is hard with a controller already so I’ve been dodging every single weapon that performs better with a scope on. I think that weapon has more potential with bots.
10:42 I wouldn’t be surprised if they removed that intentionally. I had multiple missions soft lock because an enemy was stuck below the terrain near the flag.
Excited to watch this one...not playing tonight but curious...seems good on paper
Ohdough is so on point as a content creator. Literally came to youtube while sitting in hottub just for this subject matter
I mean, if you're not dealing with a mob, sure. Counter Sniper is less bothersome to use.
The killzone 2 stuff are still 20 dollars. this was gonna be the second half of total 40 dollars.
Overseers are 2 charged shots with the purifier which also flinch them, and you dont even have to hit them directly. This sniper needs 1 more shot in the mag I feel.
Compared to the other weapons we got in this collab, this thing its a masterpiece.
5:45 I completely agree, I want the challenge back. Helldivers feels just too easy at the moment, on all fronts. I also think there isnt enough enemies
That sequence at 19:19 is what Helldivers is all about 😂😂
You were so close 😂
I have TWO grievances with this 'sniper rifle'
One: and I've been on this hill since I've ever SEEN a 'burst sniper' in borderland and killzone2
If the xm-22 was deemed too mechanically complex to mass manufacture and maintain (a rifle that used the kinetic force of the first shot to absorb and counterbalance the next two at a supposed 1800rpm) and every SINGLE Dahl burst sniper CANT STAY ON TARGET 👀...then this one had no place to even fight to be in.
Two: PLASMA ACCELERATOR 🙄 I can out distance the gun with any of the marksman rifles, automatic rifles or energy rifles. Max distance 180m arcs out at 190m and ineffective at 200m unless you are dumping shots down on top of enemies as a piece of artillery.
The poor thing has no place. If it was a burst kinetic, or even a railgun adjacent primary it would be competing with it's actual weapon class.
Might be free ninety nine, but it's a rescue from peta
Hopefully this is the beginning of them adding sniper rifles to our primary weapon slot, I've been itching to try a true sniper role for bots that doesn't require a stradagem slot to use, plus with the new wasp launcher you could be the ultimate long range member of your team, i can't wait to see what other cross overs they come up with next, im sitting here trying to think of one that would go well with helldivers, kill zone was almost too perfect, i imagine a star trip troopers collaboration would be hilarious 😂
Really wish this was on xbox
I wish it worked like the purifier but the modes are burst or combine 3 shots into a non-explosive but high penetration and damage single shot
swap out supply backpack for stalwart and own the hordes and keep your accelerator sniper for the overseers. bring other red/green stratagems to own the harvesters.
We need more basic secondary options. I love the new sniper but i hate that i can only use stalwart or machine gun as a secondary option.
This gun blows. It's not even remotly a sniper, it's a California compliant M16. Needs a 30 round mag and a reclassification as a Marksman rifle or put it in the energy section.
The real complaint? The sniper helmet is from Killzone 3 but the sniper is nabbed fron Mercenary
Nah that's just me being petty, makes sense they'd want a more exciting future-y plasma rifle, I just loved the vc-32 in 3 and wish that was the sniper we got
Agreed on the SAM sites. People in my games have been skipping them because the Illuminite are already too easy
In order for this to be better than purifier it would need single fire mode and more damage. Also no charge up. Just make it stronger with the same small mag.
Or actually an alt fure that fuses all 3 bullets in a single long charge up like the railgun, gives it AP4 but that's just a bonus
was waiting for this video
I'm running into an odd inconsistency with the sniper. As host of the lobby most often with my friend group, host doesn't get the impact damage that guest divers do. Landing the shots on the same places on the same types of enemies isn't resulting in kills or the same remaining HP. (Tested across bugs, bots and squids with the accelerator and counter sniper for finishing off wounded targets created by the accelrator.)
I feel like maybe if it has a single fire mode too for slightly less dmg too
Also I've noticed a lot less weapons on the map , on calypso I liked dropping in with no weapons. I believe the ships are explosive immune so the sniper is awful for that. But good at the harvester shields at least
Hi man, I wanted to ask which buttons do you use to input the stratagem combinations?
the ammo cap per mag is so hilariously bad that when i tested the sniper, i tell you, EVERY SINGLE TIME i forgot to reload, just tried to shoot the illuminate, but oh no, mag is empty lmao, turns out three pity shots per mag is unbelievably small your brain can't even process you need to reload, because you never run out of ammo that fast on any other weapon. sta-11 smg is also a joke. look at the crazy rate of fire...and now look at the ammo cap... seriously, who would even want to pay their hard-earned SCs for that? at least we got these for free tho
Who said the CogDis Tower was challenging? You can toss an airstrike in there and it goes away...
i read the gun as particle accelerator at first
17:30 that happened to me the 2nd time i used the anti tank emplacement. Its a new rare glitch.....
how do you get the sniper? I just got on and got nothing... :/
They send everything in waves, you should hop in to the game next time
I find the weapon good on bots for stealth parried with the peacemaker and smoke and a little bit of kitting
It needs to do more damage for its ammo economy and how slow it shoots
This weapon is nuts vs clankers.
Shields are taken down easily with machine guns.
Plasma type weapons are not effective against Shields.
Shields (except for outpost landed ufo ship shields) take full explosive damage contrary to popular belief.
Why UFOs shields don't take explosive damage is possibly a bug
Should be able to swap between semi-auto and burst fire. Otherwise, it's sick.
I don't wanna complain now that it was free...
but who thought that a Sniper Rifle shouldn't be efficient when headshotting, and be a burst fire weapon?
With that Ammo economy, I'd expect to kill medium enemies (like devastators) in a single burst.
maybe I'm just biased cause I don't care for burst especially on a sniper and I hate charge up style weapons, but after trying the sniper against bots and squids I hate it, like no ammo, constantly reloading, and just struggles to kill anything where a diligence or counter sniper or one of the plasma guns or even the dominator would do the job better/easier and with more ammo, it just seems like a set of traits that just don't flow well together. I think if I could turn the burst off I'd probably like it a lot more cause it seems that at med range or farther the burst just dances across different parts of the enemy spreading out damage instead of kill the damn thing
Sniper is strictly a worse purifier due to significantly worse ammo economy, burst fire makes hitting all 3 headshots impossible at range and far less explosion radius so no crowd control.
please make an updated tier list unless i missed it
Nice gameplay! 👌
I wash we could pick what passive we wunt on our armor
This kinda reminds me of the Mors sniper from mw3.
I'm still waiting one mine to arrive....
or just give the sniper a semi or burst modes (i'll even take charging for both)
17:46 this bug has also been happening to me
Never been so disappointed by a weapon
That's me with basically every other weapon. this one 100% needs work but for a starting point it's better than the majority of what we get.
They are kinda thick in killzone
No it's not
would love to have option to single shot or burst
A sniper that shoots bursts?? Wtf?
Acel vs eruptor?
I like it, just dont like the double tap, better yet want a viable bolt action heavy sniper
It kinda sucks how by the time the illuminate come out I’ve completely lost interest in the game
dmg feels fine but the constant reloading kills it for me.
Stun grenades + DOT weapons. 👌🏽😎
I can't like it for the life of me man, a Sniper that burst-fires? If I can't go for head-taps and swivel from target to target, it to me is just a inferior DCS... If it had a semi-auto mode or 6 more rounds in the magazine I think I'd be okay with the terrible ammo economy though
Needs like 20 mags
dont like weapons with burst mode only
i still haven't received them lol
Am I the only one who thinks it deserves heavy pen?
heavy pen or give it more ammo.
VC 39, my old favourite gun from Killzone Mercenary. Absolutely same design and functionality. It used to shoot green plasma tho. With bigger spread and AoE.
(Each shot was like mini grenade)
Knowing how "close" to original they made it, can surely tell that ammo capacity buff is not happening ever. Same with firing modes.
For me the sniper doesn t feel fun to use idk i just Don,t like it
It's horrible mate. Explosive effect is nowhere near good, ammo economy sucks, triple shot that can't be removed. It might see some play vs. automatons but that's about it. At the moment, there's nothing redeeming about it.
Is this better than the purifier for taking out the flying bois?
No, more unwieldy than the purifier and only has burst shots so you'd probably kill with two burst with the sniper when you can two full charge the flybois, 3 if you hit the body
Fun? Maybee. Good? No, nope and not ever 😂
given how low the standard is. it's good
@OhDough 🤨🧐......... Yeah,,, can't argue with that!
goated
Why are UA-camrs like this, the gun is absolute shit, many MANY way better alternatives
Looks like you had a whoosh moment. I got a good chuckle out of it.
@@OrAngelicBlitz8633I mean he's semi right
Not enough damage for this style of shooting (basically 3 shots in one mag)