Feeling Trapped? Why Waking Up The Tiger Is Essential To Break Free

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  • @euniemin1334
    @euniemin1334 2 роки тому +7

    You explained freeze and it's relation to flight/ flee energy better than Peter Levine and my own SE therapist I worked w for 3 years. Despite the way everyone lumps Fight Flight and Freeze as one group of autonomic response, Freeze has completely different felt sense than Fight/ Flight... Nobody explained that until now...Thank you so much!!!

  • @MegaTippee
    @MegaTippee 2 роки тому +5

    I am new to your channel and just had a huge " ah- ha, moment. I have had a long history of a variety of trauma. As a child through a teacher making fun of me in front of my kindergarten class because I was not able to hear. Ultimately I did get medical health. Fast forward through many years of a lot of other injuries, etc,.
    When I was newly married, I was on a walk and was confronted by a very perverted man in a vehicle that exposed himself... I felt violated and terrified, BUT I was able to run away and escape.. probably ran nearly a mile or even 2. I always felt " flawed" by the event, while in many ways it was out of my control... BUt I DID run and experience the shaking and full fight, flee response in a healthy way.... It hit me that this was actually very good..I was running from the tiger. I have felt shame for my feelings, but actually now see that this was healthy and I actually visualize and accept the " fear" as good. I can take this into every experience and know I do have choices and can powerfully respond and be in control, no matter how unpredictable or threatening things may seem. I am not trapped, by others wrong actions. .

  • @tarakadir9259
    @tarakadir9259 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤

  • @amandabennett6489
    @amandabennett6489 7 місяців тому

    This is great…a new way of thinking about my automatic (unconscious) biological reactions. Ironically I feel like I have been *fighting* my way to heal and recover after a 14 year codependent marriage to a gaslighting alcoholic. I dove into my own recovery from co-dependency, dug my way out of debt and threw myself into building a new life for myself. 10 years later - I’m flat out exhausted. I need to tell that tiger to relax! Lol

  • @joelsagayanatan2325
    @joelsagayanatan2325 5 років тому +12

    I also went through many phases where I couldn't speak out for my self , where I couldn't show emotions .. I suppressed my feeling and my anger, so m also stuck in fight flight mode .. so how can I get rid of this condition.can u help me out Dr..

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  5 років тому +2

      I'm glad you're here watching these videos. I hope the information inspires you and shows you that there's hope to work through these things.
      I would suggest watching the Healing Trauma Series irenelyon.com/healing-trauma
      And downloading the 7 steps to de-stress to start. irenelyon.com/7-steps-opt-in-IL
      The 21 day tune up could be helpful too. irenelyon.com/tuneup/
      Plus there's always getting support from a practitioner.
      sepractitioner.membergrove.com/
      Lots of resources - Hopefully some (or all!) of them help give insight and lead to a change in your experience!
      Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator

  • @user-rz2bw5ej5s
    @user-rz2bw5ej5s 10 місяців тому

    Hi Irin, but what can I do when im so unsecure and scared and frightened in the home that I live in (alone but I have neighbors) when I get rageful ALOT of times during the day , and Ive been told before I need to "wake up the tiger" if i want to realese anger , but i also have ocd , so when i realese anger I CANT STOP!!!! aND THATS A LOOP! bECAUSE WHAT HAPPENES IS THAT I GET TRIGGERS from within or from outside and than iam angry AND obssesive compolsive and because of the obsessivness and compolnesses , i c a n t stop (!!!!!) taking out anger (in curses about other neighbors, in hitting the franitures and somestimes screaming and caufing as loud as I can!!!!! (and that brings me to a state of being afraid of the neighbors , and then i "roar" in a long loop and then put myself down , and than (right after it or an hour later) i roar and than put myself down. It's a loop! And im caught in it a lot of the day, and if i wont manage HERE to get along with neighbors (i dont think they will let me continue like this for long) , i will find myself on the street !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and that is one of the main reasons im so afraid. ive been told i cant stay in two other places i lived in because i screamed and coursed people around behinde the walls! and they heard, and t h a t made me frightened and frozen and rageful and full of self blame again - and it happens to me even when im not in a threat about will i be on the street or not - that happenes a l o t!!!! and than not only am i afraid of my past triggers but also from my current HUGE fear of staying without a home, without a house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 thats horrific and terrible and horrifing!!!! And thats only because ive been given advices like you gave in this video - "in a stressful situation , wake the tiger !!!", and I interprate this as hitting things while cursing and saying how mad and angry i am. BECAUSE I AM!!! And im in a vicious cycle because of tips like this!!!!! Dear Irin , what do I do before i find myself on the street again??? With warm blessings and a huge thank you(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) , Harel ((And I cant scream or curse outside too , and i get eve more angry even when i write sometimes (and writing doesnt realese as much as hitting and cursing out loud - and it doesnt HAVE to be while im shouting , but it'sin a voice im afraid im still heard by the neighbors because i think the walls here are thin . its a cheap building lol.))) With a very warm gratitude , love, Harel

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  10 місяців тому

      @user-rz2bw5ej5s, Jen here from Team Lyon. I can understand how getting into an angry loop and being unable to stop could cause challenges on different levels, and bring up fear at times too. I'm not able to offer individual guidance here as that's outside the educational scope of what we do here, and I can offer you some general ideas and concepts to consider that will hopefully be helpful.
      A common misperception about this nervous system work is that it's mainly about feeling one's feelings. This is the case, but only to the extent that the person stays within their current nervous system capacity and is able to stay connected and oriented to the environment in the present.
      Often people need to first grow the nervous system capacity in order to hold all that they feel without being overwhelmed, and also learn to feel at little at a time. In this nervous system work we call feeling a little at a time "titration".
      It can take some practice to learn to titrate. In the meantime, when someone feels a lot and isn't able to yell or scream (for example) for any reason, including risk of being kicked out of their home, there are other options such as yelling into a pillow, pushing on a wall, and expressing freely in one's imagination.
      I'll link to a few of Irene's videos about capacity and titration in case you'd like to learn more. I hope some of this information will support you in what you're experiencing, and just in case you need to I'll also share a link to Irene's "In Crisis" page that lists related resources just in case.
      Titration Explained: Never Rush Trauma Healing - irenelyon.com/2020/04/26/titration-explained-never-rush-trauma-healing/
      How to Create a Practice to Grow Nervous System Capacity - irenelyon.com/2019/01/15/how-to-create-a-practice-to-build-nervous-system-capacity/
      In Crisis? - irenelyon.com/in-crisis/

  • @Gerhold102
    @Gerhold102 3 роки тому +1

    There's a 'global' approach to what you're saying on here and many of your presentations and that is - question everything you've assumed was 'correct' because someone in your early childhood told you that was the case. I was not so shocked when you explained early experience of trauma in terms of something I'd regarded as 'truly' traumatising. I had knowledge of that period in my life, if not a clear memory. But then you categorised stuff as trauma that I'd assumed was unpleasant but did not consider could have had a lifelong effect on me. For example, in the 1950s (and later), in the UK, there was a mass programme of tonsillectomies carried out on children. I was six and my sister was four when we were taken to a strange place (a hospital) some miles from our home, sedated with some form of gas and had our tonsils removed. I recall the ward, the weird effect of the gas as I was 'under' and waking up to find every kid in that ward bawling their eyes out. I assumed it was something to do with the gas or the soreness (which I cannot recall), but maybe it was just that it was the nasty nature of the whole experience.
    I also recall having multiple tooth extractions made by an alcoholic (so I found out much later) and brutal dentist - again, under gas. I was six or seven at the time. I was sick as we travelled home.
    In telling this I do feel very angry - I think because I've never found a medium in which to express what happened as anything other than a kind of normal experience. I didn't want to be operated on and no-one involved expressed any empathy or even sympathy with what I (we) were being subjected to. In the UK at this time there have been huge revelations about paedophile behaviour in football - for many of us, our national sporting passion. Under the negligent eye of many of our largest and most famous clubs, young boys were routinely sexually abused for long periods. And the heartbreaking knowledge is that those boys knew it was happening to their peers, but could not bring themselves to speak out and could not trust any adult to either believe them or help them.
    I was taught that I was expected not to cry, not to run and not to protest to authority. So I froze and waited until the 'difficulty' was over - rahter than find a way of escape. When people have said to me that they received corporal punishment as children and "it did me no harm", I've bitten my tongue (metaphorically of course) but thought, "really?!"
    I now know that my feelings and reactions were instinctive and right and that the indoctrination we all suffered was a product of societies which had become fixated on aggression, and regimentation. We live in screwed-up societies where awful acts result on a frequent basis. Maybe, along with mass Covid vaccinations we could and should consider mass de-traumatising as an essential part of a global therapeutic journey - which would have positive repercussions to, not only human society, but the Earth's environment.

    • @gracelewis6071
      @gracelewis6071 2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for your reflections here. I also grew up in the UK, and have. struggled with the lack of help I received as a child when there was clearly something very wrong. This helps put that into perspective a bit, realizing how much else was happening to others at the same time.

    • @gracelewis6071
      @gracelewis6071 2 роки тому +1

      I also had my adenoids out and issues with a dentist... I certainly don't ever remember being asked if I wanted an operation!! For something that we now know children grow out of. In my case I feel it was explicitly silencing my voice in the only way it was still being "heard" - or at least inconveniencing others - through my body.

  • @joehondacivic
    @joehondacivic 29 днів тому

    How do I get at the fear that's trapped inside me? I feel my sister causes me pain. That's crazy. She has schizophrenia. It scares me. I have chronic pain. The fear of the pain is just as challenging!

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  16 днів тому

      Hello, Sophia here from Team Lyon. Thank you for your comment and for sharing about what is going on for you. We appreciate you sharing. However, we are not able to consult or diagnose via email. Irene's work and programs are educational in the means that they provide you with education to learn more about the nervous system and practices to help become your own medicine.
      As Irene and her team are not doctors, psychiatrists or medical professionals, we can't make any guarantees about specific health conditions improving but we can say that many people have had success with Irene's program and have used it to heal numerous things that they were struggling with. There's a multitude of people with these varieties of conditions who have completed our programs, reporting good success and you can read about them here: www.smartbodysmartmind.com/client-stories/
      Many folks find this nervous system work at its heart is about becoming who YOU truly are and finally learning what it means to go from living in a state of survival, stress and anxiety to a place of hope, possibility and solid well-being.
      A good place to start would be Irene's free resources and mini training "Healing Trauma", all of which are housed under this link:
      irenelyon.com/free-resources/
      If diving into this world of nervous system education and its practices speak to you and you want to go deeper than what she offers through her free resources (which are pretty extensive!), then be sure to check out both of her online programs, the 21 Day Nervous System Tune-Up and SmartBody SmartMind™ (SBSM™), which are designed to work with all types of trauma at the deep level of the nervous system to fundamentally change the way you are in relationship to yourself, others, and the environment around you. irenelyon.com/programs/
      Additionally, here is a video of Irene talking about chronic pain: ua-cam.com/video/cbveVC8mCYM/v-deo.html
      Please feel free to reach out to our support inbox if you have any further questions

  • @bobelsey9684
    @bobelsey9684 2 роки тому

    There are plenty of drunken tigers out there.the first thing in tiger soup is a sober tiger

  • @rishaa682
    @rishaa682 6 років тому

    but i thought the body can get stuck in several different types of chronic responses, fight, flight, freeze or fawn (if the trauma is chronic), so isnt that lady just trading a chronic freeze response for a chronic flight response?

    • @IreneLyon
      @IreneLyon  6 років тому +10

      Under any freeze response lies a fight/flight response.
      The freeze response is there because the fight/flight response didn't get to happen. When the fight/flight response becomes available and the freeze response is no longer "needed" (usually because the system feels less threatened/more safe and has more capacity to respond) then the initial response that wanted to happen and never did gets to! For example the running action that Irene talks about in this video. This is a completion of a response that didn't get to happen in the past.
      There shouldn't be a chronic flight response at this point as the system got to respond and that need to flee is no longer there.
      Does that make sense Risha?
      Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator

    • @Kuruflower
      @Kuruflower 5 років тому +4

      How do you change the freeze response to a fight/flight response in a non-threatening situation, to finish the cycle on your own? or does one need a practitioner to do this? thank you